1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Mr Garbutschof teared down this wall. Either you're with us 2 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: or you were with the terrorists. If you've got healthcare already, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: then you can keep your plan. If you're satisfied with 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Trump is not president of the United States, take it 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: to a bank. Together, we will make America great again. 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. The Buck 7 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Sexton Show joined the conversation called Buck Toll Free at 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck that's eight four four 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: nine hundred two eight to five the future of talk radio, 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. You'll fire, you fired, your fire. You're fired, 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: you fired, You're fired. You'll fired, ye fire, and now 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: you can say you're fired fired. I was wondering what 13 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: you would say to President Obama, you're fired. Welcome to 14 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: the Buck Sex and show everybody Trump dropping some pink 15 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: slips today or at least, well at least a couple 16 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: of them. You're fired. Uh Rex Tillerson. That's how that 17 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: went down. Not surprising to me at all, although I'm 18 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: not I'm not in the anti Tillerson camp. I thought 19 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: that he was a pretty He seemed pretty confident to me, 20 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: and he certainly would be sitting seating at the seat 21 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: at the adults table within the administration. He's got a 22 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: guy with considerable experience, but he's out. As you know, 23 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard some folks talking about today. Well, 24 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: we'll dig into that a bit. You have the the 25 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: of Gina Haspell nominated as the CIA's first female director. 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: You're got the first female director of the CIA, assuming 27 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: that all goes through, and Pompeio, Mike Pompeo, the CIA Director, 28 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: is going to head over to the State Department to 29 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 1: run things at Foggy Bottom. If they thought that things 30 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: were a little rocky with Rex in charge, who, as 31 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: I have said, does remind me of the old weather 32 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: tough Texan sheriff and pretty much every Western I've ever seen. Uh, 33 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: if they thought that Rex was rough, just wait till 34 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: they get a load of Pompeo. And then there's some 35 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: other guy who was uh oh, John McEntee, the former 36 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: White House assistant. He was somebody was with Trump a lot. 37 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: He's one of these guys who, if you're not covering 38 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: the White House, I feel like it doesn't really get 39 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: all that much, all that much attention, or he doesn't 40 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: get all that much attention. But he's out for security 41 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: clearance reasons, but he's getting a lot of attention. Now. 42 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: I will say this, I think that John Kelly, the 43 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: White House Chief of Staff, finally decided that, you know, 44 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, how we deal with all the all the 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: riff raff in the White House and get everyone fall online. 46 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: No more passes on security clearance stuff because there's no 47 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: oh but I know so and so and I'm friends 48 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: with so and so way around that stuff. Really unless 49 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: you are the president, unless you're you are the elected official, 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: because then the premise becomes the people have given you 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: their trust and you get access to classified there's no 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: there's no end runs or shortcuts on those investigations for 53 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: administration officials. And I think that Kelly did the right 54 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: thing by saying are enough is enough? And if you 55 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: if you can't get clearance, you shouldn't be around classified 56 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: material and you shouldn't be in positions of such trust. 57 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: And so you just cleaned it out a bit. Look, 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm getting a little ahead of myself here 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: with uh where I wanted to go, because I was 60 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: hoping to switch into the talk at the Wall, which 61 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna do in a second. But I think this 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: is actually an upgrade for the administration, at least on 63 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: the secretary of State side. You need someone align with you, 64 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: and Peo is a ligne with Trump. You need someone 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: who's gonna fight for you and fight for your agenda. 66 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: That's Pompeo, you know, Rex, good guys, smart guy, not 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: on board for some important stuff, not on board for Iran, 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: different on Paris climate accord, and doesn't look like he 69 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: was on board North Korea or tariffs either. So how 70 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: are you going to be the president secretary of state 71 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: if you're not really if you're not really going to 72 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: be the person that believes in these policies, believes in 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: what the president trying to accomplished. But I want to 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: take a step back from that for a second. Everyone 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: gets all excited about talking about personnel. We've got some 76 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: other news to hit on, including the Pennsylvania congressional race 77 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: between Lamb and Saccone. Why is it shouldn't it be 78 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: You're you're basically a Philly guy Scone, right, I mean, 79 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: why do they that's the Italian should be Saccone, but 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: they call it Secone. I never know, you know, man, 81 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: it's uh, You've gotta I feel like I say Italian 82 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: names wrong these days because did you americanize? Did you 83 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: keep it? It's like a lot of US Irish folks. 84 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: By the way, you'll notice i'mhearing green today. You're on 85 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: radio at home, folks, so you don't know this, but 86 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a green. It's right luck of the Irish, 87 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: and we we got rid of the o's in front 88 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: of most of our names. None on everybody like O'Reilly factor. 89 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure at one point I was I 90 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: come from oh Hikey's. I'm pretty sure. Uh, I should 91 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: check on that one before I say that would allow, 92 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: but I think so. Nonetheless, Sacconi versus Lamb, I just 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: did it, Saccone versus Lamb. That's gonna be a race 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: where tonight it will be decided as we are, or 95 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the early results will coming as we're on air. I 96 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think we're gonna be able to 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: tell you who wins tonight, although we'll see if for 98 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: some reason it was a landslide one or the other, 99 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: which would be completely contra the polling that we've seen, 100 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: we'll let you know. So oh. Biden traveled to Pennsylvania 101 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: to support Connor Lamb Democrats are really they're trying to 102 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: make a thing of this one. It's all for the narrative, folks. 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: You gotta remember it's one congressional seat and there's a 104 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of members of Congress running around, which is important 105 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: for you to remember because you can feel a little 106 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: less terrified for our future when you hear what some 107 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: of those bozos and Congress had to say. You're like, well, 108 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: at least there's a lot of them. No one member 109 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: of Congress really has that much power been speak of 110 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: the House. There's some roles that have a little bit 111 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: of an elevated profile. But anyway, we got that pennsylvani 112 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: your race, and we will we'll see what we can 113 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: tell you about that. Solena Zito will be joining later 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to discuss She is uh former columns for the Pittsburgh Tribune. 115 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean she knows this area backwards and forward, so 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: she'll be really insightful on it. And we also have 117 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: Fred Flights joining, like me, a former CIA analysts, my 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: my brother from Langley, Fred Flights will be joining talk 119 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: about North Korea and his sense of that. Not much 120 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: new news on North creator Day, so or we're gonna 121 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: get into the analysis of it with Fred later on, 122 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: but I don't have anything breaking on it. So with 123 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: all that, I'm gonna return to the issue of the 124 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: personnel changes, probably later on the hour because I wanted 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to move, although I had to start with it so 126 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: we could play that you're fired clips. And it is 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: funny now to me at least, that every time that 128 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: you have one of these departures that is forced, the 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: president is in a position where we can all remember 130 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: that he was, in fact the guy most famous for 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: saying you fired. I know people say you're fired, but 132 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: I like saying it that way, the little Queen's rashness, 133 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: little little New York style. You fired. That's how we 134 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: do it here. So with all that, we can get 135 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: into the wall. You want to talk policy, you want 136 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: to talk what's going to change the game and change 137 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: the discussion. Trump was out in California today. I'm pretty 138 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: sure there was like a two person fundraiser too, you know, 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: as one does. But he was checking out the wall 140 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: literally pieces of what would be the future wall. And 141 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: he's also taking on the sanctuary city policies of California, 142 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: specifically Californias become the front line of the fight against 143 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: illegal immigration because California does. This is what's fundamental to 144 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: this discussion. The state of California does not see illegal 145 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: immigration it's a problem. It sees it as a reality 146 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: to be managed and to even be exploited as necessary 147 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: and as is helpful to democrats and status. But they 148 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: don't see it as a problem that needs to stop. 149 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: They are encouraging it. We don't have in California, and 150 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: this is true in some other states too, but it's 151 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: most true in California. We don't have a situation where 152 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: the federal government and the state government differ on how 153 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: best to achieve the same ends, which in this case 154 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: would be stopping illegal immigration and enforcing immigration laws when 155 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: it comes to illegals. No, the state government of California 156 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: and the federal government is at a an impasse. They 157 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: want fundamentally different things. They are working at cross purposes. 158 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: They are against each other on this, and that's why 159 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: this is so politically combustible. It's not like they're saying, well, 160 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: we want this and you want this, but we're trying 161 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: to do it in different ways. We want to slow down, 162 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: stop and prohibit illegal immigration, and they want to continue it. 163 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: And just manage it. They see it as something to 164 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: be managed. I'm not even sure you could say it's 165 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: a problem to be managed. They they encourage. They think 166 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: the legals are necessary for the economy, necessary for the votes, 167 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: necessary for the future of the state of California. At 168 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: least that's what the elected I know a lot of 169 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: you in California, like Buck, that's not what I think. 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: But that is what the Democrat Party and the left 171 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: in California have signed on for. And that's why Trump 172 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: out at the wall today was so important. Like for example, 173 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: when he's and this, you don't have a wall system, 174 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have We're not gonna have a country. 175 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of problems in Mexico. They have a 176 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: lot of problems over there, and they have the cartels 177 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: and the cartels. We're fighting the cartels. So we're fighting 178 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: them hard. Nobody ever fought him like we fought him. 179 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: I mean, we fight them hard. But the fact is, 180 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: if you don't have a wall system, it would be 181 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: bedlum I imagine it's very hard to control a just 182 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: personnel there. It's a combination of all. So we'll look 183 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: at it. The walls where you have some three really 184 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: some sea through capability. If you don't have some sea 185 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: through it's a problem. So we'll take a look up here, 186 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: President saying you need a wall. Isn't it noteworthy that 187 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: as he's out in California and San Diego, he is 188 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: in fact in a place that has a wall, and 189 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: that has dramatically improved the ability of border patrol to 190 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: do their jobs. It has made it easier re border 191 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: patrol to secure the San Diego sector of the world. 192 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: No one saying it's perfect, but no security measure is perfect. 193 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: There is no such thing. People will say, oh, well 194 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: they'll get a they'll get a ladder, or they'll dig 195 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: a tunnel. Well yeah, but that doesn't stop anyone else 196 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: from building walls for any number of reasons. It's not 197 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: supposed to be a cure all. It is supposed to 198 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: be an impediment. And that is obviously what a wall 199 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: is all about. You know, it doesn't even get much 200 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: attention right now, but the most by a recent statistical analysis. 201 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: I forget who did it, so I don't want to 202 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: throw that out on the air, but we'll figure it out. 203 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: The most dangerous city in the world per capita, right 204 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: now for murders is it was Warez for a little while, 205 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: and I think then it moved down into Central America 206 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: and now you know, Caracas and Venezuela is definitely trying 207 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: to get to the top spot. But the most dangested 208 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: in the world as of last month per capita was Cabo. 209 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Those of you who are familiar with the geography know 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: that Bo is on the tip of the Baja Peninsula 211 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: and they're Los Cabos. The cities that are there used 212 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: to be and still are actually, I think a pretty 213 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: popular tourist destination, which is amazing. I checked it out. 214 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: I was just curious, what's it like you try to 215 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: go to Los Cabos now are there? Yeah, they're still 216 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: eight night hotel rooms there and people are still going, 217 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: I suppose. But they have the highest murder ra per 218 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: capita of any city in the world. Why is that, 219 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: you say, Well, because of the cartels, Because the Sinaloa 220 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Cartel and some of these other cartels, the Nuevo Generation Cartel, 221 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: um Nuevo Jalisco Generation Cartel and some of these others 222 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: are all fighting it out for supremacy. But the worst 223 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: part of the border right now for crossings is not 224 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: the San Diego secret, despite the fact that Baja the peninsula, 225 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: which I know is very long, but is home to 226 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: some really nasty cartel violence. No, no, it's it's in 227 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: other places along the border. You know, they've even this 228 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: is people don't see nearly enough of of this reporting. Acapulco, 229 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: which is a internationally known beach resort I believe, has 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: had to deploy the military in Mexico to its beaches, 231 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: not even to protect tourists, just to protect locals who 232 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: want to go to the beach. They have marines, Mexican 233 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: marines who have to go to the beach that people 234 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: are able to go without fear of being shot or kidnapped. 235 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: That is right across our border, folks, that kind of violence. 236 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: And you know, when you start to look at what 237 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: we could do to make things easier for us and 238 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: easier for our Mexican counterparts, you know that's a part 239 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: of this too. I actually want a prosperous Mexico. I 240 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: want the cartels to be up against it. I wanted 241 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: to be much less appealing for people to break our 242 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: laws because it is much more appealing for Mexicans and 243 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: Central Americans to stay and build prosperity in their own countries, right. 244 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean that that's what I think we could all 245 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: say we would like that. And making it a more 246 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: secure border, building this border wall, helping our border patrol 247 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: on our Mexican counterparts is all a part of that. 248 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: As long as you have cartels that have bank rolls 249 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: that will will make corruption widespread with the Mexican government 250 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: of Mexican security forces, and as long as the cartels 251 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: are able to fight over billions of dollars, you're not 252 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: going to have a secure stable Mexico and you're gonna 253 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: have problems that spill over into our own country, which 254 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Trump is also taking note of. And I mentioned to 255 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: you yesterday with MS their team we got more on 256 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: the boarder we gotta talk about here. As you can tell, 257 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: I find this to be an incredibly important issue. I 258 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: think it's important for the future of this country. And 259 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that Trump drew a line in the san today. 260 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: You could say he put the first brick up in 261 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: the wall by making it quite clear he's not backing 262 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: off this one. A lot of the haters, the underminers, uh, 263 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: the detractors from Trump have been and you're not going 264 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: to get this wall. It's a lie. He's clowning you. 265 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no way he can walk back from it. Now. 266 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: He's got to do everything he can to get that wall. 267 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: And I think he's going to This is the guy 268 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: who agreed to meet with Kim John Un despite all 269 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: the conventional wisdom against it. Right. I think you're also 270 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: seeing the president today who's going to be the one 271 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: who starts getting that wall built. And that will be 272 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: It will be a game changer. It was a game 273 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: changer for Israel, and oh guess what, it's been a 274 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: game changer at the San Diego sector of the US 275 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Mexico border. So we have proof already. If it wasn't 276 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: gonna work, the left wouldn't hate it so much. Alright, alright, 277 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm fired up. I know we will be back with 278 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: much more on this. Stay with me. Both countries recognized 279 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: the need to stem the cross border flow of illegal weapons, drugs, people, 280 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: and cash. I have a great relationship at the President 281 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: of Mexico, wonderful guy Enrique, terrific guy. We're working, we're 282 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: trying to work things out. We'll see whether or not 283 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: it happens. I don't know that it's going to happen. 284 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: He's a very good negotiator, he loves the people of Mexico, 285 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: and he's working very hard. We'll see what happens. I 286 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: like how even Trump, with all of his optimism and salesmanship, 287 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: is like, I mean, it might happen, Like maybe it 288 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: won't happen. But usually he's like, Oh, we're gonna get 289 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: it done. It's gonna be amazing, it's gonna be great, 290 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, And that's part of his his charm and 291 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: his power, quite honestly. But on this one, he's like, 292 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if Mexico is gonna be like all 293 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: on board for this. I'm not sure. I could not sure. 294 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I could promise that, but I can't promise the wall, 295 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: and he certainly is promising. By the way, Producer producer 296 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Mike actually has some some numbers for me. So well, 297 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: So what I said about the cities what was true here? 298 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: Lobos was one, Caracas is two, and Acapulco comes in third. Damn, 299 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: look at I did not even know that, and those 300 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: three cities came up in my discussion because that is 301 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: how I roll. So there you go. Yeah, the violence 302 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: in Venezuela's pretty self explanatory if you know what's going 303 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: on with the government. But Acapulco, I think it's mostly 304 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: because the I believe the Sinaloa cartel, which is really 305 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: the oldest, is fighting a turf battle with the Nuevo 306 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Helisco or Helisco Nuevo Generation cartel, and which is ultra there. 307 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: I mean they're both ultra violent, but they're they're finding 308 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: out in Acapulco. And and then yeah, Los Cabos, but 309 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: people still go there because I still if you go on, 310 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: if you go on like hotels dot Com right now 311 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: and you look up places in Cabo, they're like all 312 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: in cloth with twelve to night for mom cation. Ya 313 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: mom cation Cabo. No, moms do not mom cation Cabo. No. No, 314 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: many petties on the beach in Cabo stay there? Yeah 315 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: what what? What's a murder? Yeah? Bad things going on there, 316 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: bad things going on there. You did not want to 317 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: be anywhere near that. So, nonetheless, we we got to 318 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: talk more about Trump in this policy of fighting. So 319 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: we know the wall is important. He promised the wall, 320 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: and also the other side was saying you'll never get it. 321 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: He is threatening to veto the next funding bill if 322 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: there's not funding for a wall. This is you know, 323 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: with Congress funding for a wall next budget bill. And 324 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: also sanctuary cities get defunded unless they stop their anti 325 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: rule of law shenanigans. Nless they stop their lawlessness. What's 326 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: that gonna look like? What's that gonna mean? You can 327 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: see we're heavy on immigration this hour. We'll talk more 328 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: about White House personnel and some other stuff. Stay with me. 329 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to 330 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. California sanctuary 331 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: policies put the entire nation at risk. They're the best 332 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: friend of the criminal. These smugglers, the traffickers, the gang members, 333 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: they're all taking refuge. These policies released dangerous criminal offenders 334 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: to prey on innocent people and nullify the federal law. 335 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: They're threatening the security and the safety of the people 336 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: of our country. The presidents going after sanctuary cities too. 337 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: The promise here is that if they don't fall in 338 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: line and start supporting federal law and stop supporting lawlessness, 339 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna stop getting some federal grant money. That's going 340 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: to really sting some of these locales. What's the point 341 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: of the federal government having grant money to give or 342 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: not give. If states and cities get it without compliance 343 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: to what the federal government is requesting, right, then then 344 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: it's not a grant. Then it's just a demand. Then 345 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: it's a an expectation. And what was it? He talked 346 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: about it later today as well. You know, Trump spoke 347 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: to a group of Marines and mentioned sanctuary cities to 348 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: them too. My administration is confronting sanctuary city policies that 349 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: nullify federal law, violate our constitution, and threatened the safety 350 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: and security of our nation. They shield criminals. We can't 351 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: do that, and that is why we are asking Congress 352 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: to ensure that no federal funds subsidized this dangerous and 353 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: unlawful behavior. We want to protect you, and we want 354 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: to protect all of our families. We want to protect 355 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: our nation. There is no other area of criminal law 356 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: of which I am where at least that has cities, 357 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: elected officials, even law enforcement, law enforcement officials too, who 358 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: actively subvert criminal law. There's there's no other area that 359 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: I'm that I'm aware of, um where this, where this 360 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: happens in this way. Keep in mind that as much 361 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: as I disapprove of the message, that's sent about federalism 362 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: and about the role of the federal government. The states 363 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: with the California legalization, uh de facto legalization in gosh 364 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: if it's Colorado and Washington. But there are some other 365 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: places have followed suit, right, or they've at least decriminalized it. 366 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: There are a few places now, but a couple of 367 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: states stretching back for a few years, have effectively decriminalized marijuana. 368 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: But that's different because the federal government has said, all right, 369 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: we're cool at that for now. Do I think that 370 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: that's a good way for the country, But no, I 371 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: think that Congress should you know, either, they should pass 372 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: laws that prohibit substances at the federal level using the 373 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: interstate commerce clause. By the way, which is distressing. The 374 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: interstate commerce clauses abused by status. It is the many 375 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: headed hydra from which so many of our authoritarian ills 376 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: stem in this country. So much of what the federal 377 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: government does that it shouldn't is because of Wickered v. 378 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Philburn and the interstate commerce clause. Quick version of it 379 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: is the guys selling wheat, but he's like, I'm not 380 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: selling across state lines, so they say, well, selling it 381 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: within state lines. Affects the price across state lines. Therefore, 382 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: will regulate it as though you're selling it across state lines. 383 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: Once you apply that logic to things, there's really no 384 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a state anymore, which is 385 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: how you had in the nineties. Even the Violence Against 386 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Women Act pass at a federal level, even though all 387 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: fifty states had statutes criminalizing, as they should domestic violence. 388 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: But it's not a federal government issue. It's a state 389 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: and local issue. But they said, well, it affects commerce. 390 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: They've done this with any number of things. But if 391 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: marijuana is not going to be illegal, the federal government 392 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: should back off and not have it be illegal. Nonetheless, 393 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: the point I'm making is about the state versus the 394 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: federal and on drugs, at least the federal government says, okay, 395 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: states will allow it. With immigration and sanctuary cities, the 396 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: federal government's like, no, no, no, we gotta this is 397 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: an urgent problem. We've got to handle this. We've got 398 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: way too much illegal immigration happening in this country, way 399 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: too many legal aliens running around. Many of them are dangerous, 400 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: They're committing a lot of crimes, and this is a 401 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: problem we have to address. And state and local governments 402 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: are saying, sorry, I don't want to know no part 403 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: of They don't want to help you on that one. Listen, 404 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean, nowhere else do you have this. Nowhere else 405 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: do you have government authorities who are supposed to be 406 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: about the rule of law, who are actively working to 407 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: undermine the rule of law. And Trump has had enough 408 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: of it and s indeed California is ground zero for 409 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: this fight. And Trump singled out Governor Jerry Brown for 410 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: being among the worst of the worst offenders of the 411 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: sanctuary city policy type. Thank you having a Brown has 412 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: done a very poor job running California. They have the 413 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: highest taxes in the United States. The place is totally 414 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: out of control. You have sanctuary cities where you have 415 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: criminals living in the sanctuary cities, and then the mayor 416 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: of Oakland goes out and notifies when Ice is going 417 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: in to pick them up. And many of them were 418 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: criminals with criminal records and very dangerous people. You would say, 419 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: dangerous people. And uh No, I think the governor is 420 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: doing a terrible job running the state of California. I 421 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: think that's fair to say. I've got so many friends 422 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: who live in California, who are like, yeah, it's beautiful here, 423 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: it's great, but the taxes and government services and infrastructure, 424 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, not unless you are really rich and you 425 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: know already got a maid in shade, you do not 426 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: want to try to make it happen out in California. 427 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: They say, it's just it's just too hard. Um, it's 428 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: just there are too many regulations and too many hurdles 429 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: putting the way of success, and successes increasingly penalized there. 430 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: So look, I this is where you got to see 431 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: if Trump is Trump is really going to get it done. 432 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: There's no way for him to back off. There's no 433 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: way for him to back off the wall without letting 434 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: his base down there. It's it's just not possible. And 435 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I think this is one issue. You know that the 436 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Trump supporters, the real die hard Trump supporters, believe that 437 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: they can give some leeway to Trump to get certain 438 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: things done. They're not, oh, well, he's gonna get it 439 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: all right away. But the day that Trump says, sorry, 440 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: we can't make the wall happen and it's not and 441 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: it's something that I could do something about, is the 442 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: day that his base starts to crumble. If he and 443 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: if he livers on the wall. The the opposite effect 444 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: will happen, which is his base will stay with him 445 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: through They'll give him so much, but let'll stay with 446 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: him through anything, because I'll know. That was the single 447 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: biggest promise of his entire campaign. That was also the 448 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: promise that was most ridiculed by the left, and that 449 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: got the Democrats the most upset. So the wall is 450 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: a big deal. Um it is. It is a big deal, 451 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna get built all at once, and 452 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be problems and everything else, but 453 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: getting it going sends huge signals. And that's why Trump 454 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: is out there today talking about how important it is 455 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: to put up this wall and what it will mean 456 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: for us going forward. You know, just just imagine if 457 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: our southern border was like our northern border in terms 458 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: of not having to worry as much about legal aliens, 459 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: about criminal infiltration, even possible terrorist infiltration. We could live 460 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: in that world. Our northern border doesn't keep us up 461 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: at night with worry. Our southern border shouldn't, and it 462 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: should be addressed. And this is an old school solution 463 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: for a current day problem. Create an obstacle that gives 464 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: you better ability to police and and gives you that additional, 465 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: really real force multiplier effect of having yes, border patrol 466 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: that can react quickly, have drones in the air, have 467 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: all the different sensors and electronic assistance that they can 468 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: bring to bear. But also you know, not just play, uh, 469 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, hide and seek and run around in the 470 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: desert and trying to find people when all they could 471 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: do is just keep walking. That's going to be a 472 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: game changer, I think eight four four d to eight 473 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: to five. If you want to chat about this or 474 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: anything else, eight four four nin buck, You've got a 475 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: lot more, including what's going on with the whole Tillerson 476 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: Pompeo shake up. I'll give you more thoughts on that, 477 00:27:53,119 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: So stay with me. You honor your duty to your country. 478 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: Now we must honor our duty to you. For too long, 479 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: the men and women of the United States Armed Forces 480 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: have been asked to do more with less. You've borne 481 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: the costs of under investment and deferred modernization and also 482 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: deferred maintenance. You've endured longer and more frequent deployments. You've 483 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: spent countless hours fixing and maintaining old equipment. President Trump, 484 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: speaking earlier today at the Marine Corps air Station Miramar 485 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: in San Diego. And it's always, I think some notable 486 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: that when Trump speaks to the troops, he speaks with 487 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: a a an affection and a reverence and our respect 488 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: that is very apparent, despite the fact that the media 489 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: has been trying for a long time to suggest that 490 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: Trump doesn't respect the military, doesn't respect military service because 491 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: of things he said to political opponents, UM and and 492 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: every person and I know people on all sides of 493 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: the aisle and all kinds of stuff, including military and 494 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: intelligence work, but all the military folks I talked to 495 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: her like, yeah, Trump is. Trump is very well liked 496 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: as commander in chief, overwhelmingly well liked as commander in chief, 497 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's nearly enough attention given by 498 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: the various media outlets to that fact. And his focusing 499 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: on rebuilding parts of military that have not received adequate funding, 500 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: and his efforts to improve different parts of that authorization 501 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: and financial authorization process, I think is getting a lot 502 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: of people over onto his side, for um uh, from 503 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: those who are military and also from the veteran community 504 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: to um. But he also mentioned nuclear force specifically, we're 505 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: also modernizing our nuclear capabilities and rebuilding our nuclear infrastructure. 506 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: We're investing more money than we have ever done before 507 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: because we have to be so far ahead of any 508 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: other country. It's a capability we never even want to 509 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: think about using, but we have to be prepared, and 510 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: in a nuclear front, we are so far and will 511 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: be so far ahead of any other country. You know, 512 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I think it's notable that with the recent bluster from 513 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin on the nuclear weapons that he has in 514 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: his arsenal, it's not some people said he doesn't have 515 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: that capability and this stuff he's talking about with the 516 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: you know what, hypersonic glide vehicles and things like that. Uh, 517 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: it's not that it would be impossible to do. Just 518 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: many of the analysts I saw said they're not they 519 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: don't believe, or they're not sure that Putin has already 520 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: gotten there. But these are things that will most likely 521 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: be a reality very soon if they're not already, and 522 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: that will change the way that we have to think 523 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: about missile defense and intercontinental ballistic missiles. And once you 524 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: start adding advanced technologies into it, you know, you no 525 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: longer have mutually assured destruction if one side can reasonably 526 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: be expected to shoot down whatever missiles may come its way, 527 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: if they're old school missiles or or on the other 528 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: side of it, if one side of the equation, say 529 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: the Russians or somebody else, has missiles that can reliably 530 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: get around any defense that we have, you know that 531 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: that changes the strategic calculation. And I think Trump is 532 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: aware of this, and it's very just like with Reagan. 533 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: You remember, these are very expensive issues and you have 534 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: to take a long term view. But if we want 535 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: to maintain all our military pre eminence and can maintain 536 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: our role as the world superpower, we can't allow ourselves 537 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: to fall behind on this and think in terms that 538 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: are outdated about all of it. So oh, but there's 539 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: one other part is that it was like a hey 540 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: moment today, I'm like, WHOA hold on a second, it's 541 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: Trump really gonna yeah, he's going there. He's talking about 542 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: talking about space and the space race in terms of 543 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: national security. So think of that spaceforce because we're spending 544 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: a lot and we have a lot of private money 545 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: coming in tremendous you saw what happened the other day, 546 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: and tremendous success. From the very beginning, many of our 547 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: astronauts have been soldiers and sailors, airmen, coast guardsmen and marines, 548 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: and our service members will be vital to ensuring America 549 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: continues to lead the way into the stars. We're gonna 550 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: lead the way in space. We're way way behind and 551 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: we're catching up fast. Space Force. I like it. I 552 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: want to be a part of Space Force sounds awesome. 553 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: I'd want some kind of laser gun that goes pu P, 554 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, Space Force. Think you'd be a lot of fun. 555 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: I would enjoy it. But it is getting more and 556 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: more a reality. You mentioned the private sector money that's 557 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: coming into it. Look at what Elon Musk just said, 558 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: I think yesterday about Mars. Get yourself to Mars. Uh. 559 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: That's a reference to total Recall Schwarzenegger, who will be 560 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: making an appearance later on in the show as well. 561 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: But yes, Elon Musk play it. We're building the first ship, 562 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: the first Mars m interplanetary ship UM right now, and 563 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: I think we'll prob fail to do short flights, short 564 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: sort of up and down flights UM. Only sometime in 565 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the first half of next year. I'm gonna have ships 566 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: visiting Mars. Folks. You know, this is one thing that 567 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: the climate change alarmists and the radical environmentalists left and 568 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: the redistributionists who just think that we have a It's 569 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: all about what we do with the pie we have now, 570 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: not what the the economic pie looks like tomorrow. Uh, 571 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: you know what the government can do with it meeting 572 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: who they give it to, is that this is all 573 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna be changing so rapidly. You know. One thing I 574 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: will say is I kind of hate airlines. And I 575 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: know it's easy to hate on airlines, but I really 576 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: have a tough time not hating on them these days. Uh, 577 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: every time I fly, there's a problem, and it's it's 578 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: as reliable as clockwork. Every time I fly there is 579 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: a problem. And I saw that terrible story about a 580 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: woman who had to put her was forced to put 581 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: her dog in the overhead compartment and the dog died. 582 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: I would lose my mind. I hope she sues that 583 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: airline out of you know, sues it's pants off, so 584 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: to speak. And I just would like to see technology 585 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: advanced to a point where we can get airlines that 586 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: are not punishing us so that they can make more money, 587 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: because that's what they really do. It's it's put you 588 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: in the most uncomfortable seats in the most uncomfortable places, 589 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: and you know, and and have you at their mercy 590 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: and everything else, and it's all for their bottom line. 591 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: And I would just love to see disruption in that industry. 592 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that air and space travel will advance 593 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: to a point where we can finally say sayonara to 594 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: the old version of the airlines we've seen for decades now, 595 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: where it's just it's it's their world and you're living 596 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: in it for the few hours or whatever it is 597 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: that you're trying to get to wherever it is you're going. 598 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, space flight. I know it's not 599 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: directly tied in this, but I'm thinking about flying cars too. 600 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: And all this technological progress is going to change a 601 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: lot when it comes to policies, and so you want 602 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: to you want to keep that in mind. Maybe another 603 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: day I'll give you a speech on how we're decarbonizing 604 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: as a society already. And that's why the climate change 605 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: alarm is just have no idea what they're talking about. 606 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: We are naturally decarbonizing using less carbon intensive fuels all 607 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: the time. It's happening as a result of technology. Um, 608 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: but there I go on all that stuff. We're gonna 609 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: get into the taylorson Pompeo shift, and maybe also that 610 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: poisoning in Russia, and we'll talk about that and more 611 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: coming up here. He's holding the line for America. Buck 612 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: Sex in his back. Welcome to our two of the 613 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I thank you very much for being here. 614 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: We have the firing of Tillerson as Secretary of State 615 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: to get into for a few moments here, as well 616 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: as the elevation of see I Director Pompeo to the 617 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: Secretary of State role, and the also the promotion of 618 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: a woman to head the c I A. And then 619 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: you have a Trump aid who has gone for security 620 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: clearance reasons. I don't find that last part of it 621 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: all that interesting or noteworthy. Money if people leave administrations 622 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: for reasons like this all the time, So I'll leave 623 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: that one off our docket for now. But Tillerson, uh, well, 624 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: he said this about the end of his tenure as 625 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: what we used to refer to as Sex State. Here's 626 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: what he said. I received a call today from the 627 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: President United States at a little afternoon time from Air 628 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: Force one, and I've also spoken to White House Chief 629 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: of Staff Kelly, to ensure we have clarity as to 630 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: the days ahead. What is most important is to ensure 631 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: an orderly of smooth transition during the time that the 632 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: country continues to face significant policy and national security challenges. 633 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: Has such effective At the end of the day, I'm 634 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: delegating all responsibilities of the office of the Secretary the 635 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: Deputy Secretary of State Sullivan. My commission is Secretary of 636 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: State will terminate at midnight mart one, so he's out. 637 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have a whole lot to say about the 638 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: President on this one. Did mention what's sort of left 639 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: to deal with in terms of the portfolio the Secretary 640 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: of State, notably China and Russia. Much work remains to 641 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: establish a clear view of the nature of our future 642 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: relationship with China. How shall we deal with one another 643 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: over the next fifty years and insure a period of 644 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: prosperity for all of our people's free of conflict between 645 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: two very powerful nations. And much work remains to respond 646 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: to the troubling behavior and actions on the part of 647 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: the Russian government. Russia must assessed carefully as to how 648 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: its actions are in the best interests of the Russian 649 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: people and of the world. More broadly, continuing on their 650 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: current trajectory is likely to lead to greater obscolation on 651 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: their part, the situation, which is not in anyone's interesting. 652 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: So Tillerson is done, and now we have to look 653 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: at what that means going forward. Now, now I mentioned 654 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: the last hour, I think that Pompeo makes more sense 655 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: as the person to be in this role. I think 656 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: that Pompeo is aligned with Trump on policy. I think 657 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: that Pompeo is a a guy who understands the political 658 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: fight that the administration is currently in. And I believe 659 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: that Pompeo will be more effective then Tillerson was on 660 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: issues like Iran and their recertification or the lack of certification, 661 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: whatever ends up happening, on the Iran nuclear deal, on 662 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: dealing with these upcoming North Korea talks, and then also 663 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: everything else that comes long being Secretary of State. I 664 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: just think that Pompeo and Trump, well, Trump says this, 665 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: and it's not just my my opinion, man, it's also 666 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: but the President himself has made quite clear um that 667 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: he really gets along with Pompeo. I've worked with Mike 668 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: Pompeo now for quite some time, tremendous energy, tremendous intellect. 669 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: We're always on the same wavelength. The relationship has been 670 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: very good, and that's what I need at a secretary 671 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: of State. I wish wreck Pillerson well. Gina, by the way, 672 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: who I know very well, who I've worked very closely, 673 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: will be the first woman director of the c I A. 674 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: He's an outstanding persisdon who also I have gotten it 675 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: over very well. But I don't have any opinion for 676 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: you really on the the new the new director. Um, 677 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: I've been out long enough and away from it long 678 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: then off at any of the kind of you know, 679 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't. I don't know her, 680 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know anything about this. Got nothing for 681 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: you on it. That's what I'm trying to say. So 682 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: if Trump says she's good, I mean, all I know 683 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: is what I'm reading about in the newspapers, just like you. 684 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: And we'll have to see first female though, to head 685 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: the agencies. So that's that's gonna be an interesting talking 686 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: point that will get lost very quickly because the media 687 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: that the media doesn't consider women who are Republicans, or 688 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: even women in a Republican administration to be breaking any 689 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: glass ceilings that that can't really happen. But Pompeo over 690 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: chillers didn't what to see. I mean, Trump said that 691 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: look that that Rex and he that they were just 692 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: having some some issues between the two of them, that's 693 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: one way to put it. I really didn't discuss it 694 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: very much with them, honestly, Uh. I made that decision 695 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: by myself. Rex wasn't you know, in our in this country. 696 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: I made see North Korean decision with consultation from many people. 697 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: But I made that decision by myself. I actually got 698 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: along well with Rex, but really it was a different mindset. 699 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: It was a different thinking. I've gotten the long well 700 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: with Mike Bumbao, and frankly, I get along well with 701 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: Rex su And you know, I wish Rex a lot 702 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: of good things. I think Rex will be much happier now. 703 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: I think so too. So I don't really want to 704 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: get to now. Tillerson gets to go back to being 705 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: the former CEO of Exxon Mobile, the until recently it's 706 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: the biggest company in the world, and he's gonna be 707 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: someone who you know, he has a lot of he 708 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: can spend a lot of money, He's got a lot 709 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: of money, he can hang out and do whatever he wants, 710 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: and he was just too much of an alpha dog 711 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: to play the role that he needed to in this administration. 712 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: We all know in Trump world there can only be 713 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: one alpha dog. And you know, Rex Tillerson, I think, 714 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: was always kind of like, I don't need this job. 715 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: I'll do it to serve my country. But if you 716 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: take that position and you don't see eye to eye 717 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: with Trump on where things need to go, it's gonna 718 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: be tough. It's gonna be tough. You get you get 719 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: to to alpha's in the room. You know, two can enter, 720 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: only one, only one will leave, right I mean to 721 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: or like Highlander, there can be only one. It was 722 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: like that in this administration. That's my analysis is the 723 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: Highlander theory of Trump's cabinet picks. There can be only one. 724 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: So there you have it much for you on that 725 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: before Other than that, you know, I think I'm gonna 726 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: I want to mix it up here. I want to 727 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: talk to you about something that I'd be willing to 728 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: bet you haven't heard much coverage of anywhere else, if 729 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: any and the media is trying very hard not to 730 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: cover it. And I've got just enough for just enough 731 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: vetting an analysis of it to share the tonight. Did 732 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: you know that South African South African government may go 733 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: forward with and appropriation which is just a fans we 734 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: have saying season land, season land from farmers. Why are 735 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: they season this land from the farmers because the farmers 736 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: are white. This is a whole campaign that is being ignored, 737 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: swept aside, kept out of the public's eye, and we 738 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: have to start asking why why is that the case? 739 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: Why are am I sitting here? And I'm willing to 740 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 1: bet that very few of you have heard, um maybe 741 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: some of you have seen something on social media about it, 742 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: but it is it is very much going on that 743 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: there is a campaign now to dispossess people in South Africa, 744 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: which is the wealthiest country in Sub Saharan Africa. Do 745 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: you dispossess people based on their skin color? Because the 746 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 1: government now is saying, particularly the more radical Marxist elements 747 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: of the South African government are saying that the land 748 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: was never there is to begin with. And some very 749 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: very disturbing stuff is coming out about all this, and 750 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for the media to keep hiding 751 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: what's going on here. You have campaigns, uh systemic campaigns 752 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: of intimidation, violence, and rape against the white farmers that 753 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: have been well documented now and the government is not 754 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: only unwilling to help, but there was one case that 755 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: I read about where a woman was trying to defend herself, 756 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: I believe, with a firearm and she ended up being arrested. 757 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: So you've got very very dangerous things going on right 758 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: now in South Africa, and I just want to talk 759 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: to you about what's happening there because how is this 760 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: not a bigger news story? And also, at what point 761 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: do we get to say that the Trump administration should 762 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: consider taking in these farmers as refugees. They're English speaking 763 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: there from a a an Anglo Anglo tradition of of 764 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: culture and rule of law. How how about we open 765 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: our doors to the the farmers in South Africa who 766 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: are being threatened with murder and dispossession of their land. Now, 767 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: this is a question that I'm just wondering why no 768 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: one's really asking it, but you see this happening time 769 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: and again. It's kind of like the Christians in Iraq. 770 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're facing extinction and they're being openly targeted. 771 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: But you know, we we can't really help them here 772 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: because because what their minority there, they're under threat. Well yeah, 773 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 1: but we don't want to seem like we're playing favorites. 774 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: We play favorites with refugee populations all the time, but 775 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: when we look outside our own borders, we have this 776 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: sense of well, whoever is a minority or a a 777 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, somebody who's either suffers from oppression or enjoys 778 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: privilege here, they must have the same thing and the 779 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: rest of the world. That's not how the world works. 780 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: I just think you'll find this to be a fascinating 781 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: story and and frightening. And when you look at the 782 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: precursor situation or the most similar situation with Zimbabwe next 783 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: door are h then you see what the future could 784 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: look like unless this gets stopped in the international community 785 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: should have a role to play here. The US government 786 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: should speak up. I'll give you some of the details 787 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: on this week. Come back. I think you'll be fascinated 788 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: by this. Stay with me. So, what is going on 789 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: in South Africa right now? It's been some reporting on 790 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: it here and there, but there seems to be an 791 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: unwillingness or a desire in the media to not pay 792 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: any attention to this, even though some of those who 793 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: are in positions of authority and power saying some pretty 794 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: terrible things in South Africa's parliament just past emotion in 795 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: the last few weeks that would that could lead to 796 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: the seizure of land from white farmers, and that can 797 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: get very violent and very scary as well. And on 798 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: top of that it's deeply immoral and wrong. But you have, 799 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: for example, Julius Malema, who is a far left Marxist 800 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: radical but elected member of parliament in South Africa, who 801 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: at a at a rally earlier this year said this 802 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: about the white farmers that's been living peacefully, that had 803 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: been swimming in a pile, be going themselves because they're 804 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: always the high school older. Our peace was this time 805 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: by white men's arbal. They call me black gino sign. 806 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: They killed our people. King pay whats gotten to step 807 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,479 Speaker 1: them keeping when they found the place put up against here, 808 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: they killed them. There's them like we are not calling 809 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: for the lot of white people, at least for them. 810 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: I know it was tough with the audience here, he 811 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: said at the end. This is the leader of the 812 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 1: Economic Freedom Fighters Party in South Africa. He's a political 813 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 1: leader there. He says they're not calling for the slaughter 814 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 1: of white people yet. Is that a public rally, folks, 815 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: That that's the kind of thing that you know in 816 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: most countries, most societies would raise a lot of eyebrows, 817 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: get a lot of attention. This was earlier this year 818 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: and there is some reporting on this, but not nearly enough. 819 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: Here is part of a report from sky News, the 820 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: UK owned international news channel, and here's what they rep 821 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: order had to say about the violence against white farmers 822 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: in South Africa. What we've saying over there is is 823 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: placed to respond. They will turn up, but it seems 824 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: hardly anyone has ever arrested. I think another problem with 825 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: South Africa has been this mandate to him employ the 826 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: cycle previously disadvantaged at any cost, and that's including in 827 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: the place force. So we have very lovely skilled place 828 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: who don't seem to have the capacity to investigate these 829 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: crimes properly. What's refferm to you with employing the previously 830 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: disadvantaged is effectively a form of affirmative action. So you're 831 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: saying you've got police that have no skills, have no 832 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: idea what they're doing, but they're being employed for largely 833 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: political reasons. Who are showing up and being told, hey, 834 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: this white farmer has been attacked in what is a 835 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: a racial and racist attack right there, attacking people because 836 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: they're white, and they feel that they have a green 837 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: light from the government which just voted the parliament just 838 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: voted overwhelmingly to seize the property of white farmers. Of 839 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: farmland in South Africa is in the hands of white farmers, 840 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: and they show please show up, and you know they 841 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: don't want to. They they don't want to or unwilling 842 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: to do anything about it, or unable to do anything 843 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: about it because of their lack of training. So this 844 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: is really disturbing stuff. And and people are saying, well, 845 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: why don't the farmers leave. We'll think about this. Who 846 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 1: are they going to sell their land to? And their farmers, 847 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 1: their their livelihood, everything is tied up in their land. 848 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,919 Speaker 1: If they leave, what do they have. Who will even 849 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: buy the farm from them? The answer is nobody, because 850 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: right now the government's talking about literally seizing it, nationalizing 851 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: for the purposes of social justice or in this case, 852 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: racial justice, nationalizing farms to redistribute to the people. By 853 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: the way, this is very similar to the social justice 854 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: rhetoric you've heard in Venezuela until recently as well. Oh, 855 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: we have to give more to the people, land to 856 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: the people, redistribution reforms. This stuff always ends in disaster. 857 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: It is ended an absolute disaster next door in Zimbabwe, 858 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: which had the same program going on basically now it's 859 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: not it's has to still pass that has to be 860 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: signed off on, but the legislative branch of the South 861 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: African government, the parliament, has passed it overwhelmingly. In Zimbabwe, 862 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: the seizure of land from white farmers, which was done 863 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: with with the absolute you know, complicity and on the 864 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: orders really of the government, has turned Zimbabwe from a 865 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: country that was Southern Africa's bread basket into a country 866 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: that can't feed itself, that has to import food, that 867 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: has food shortages regularly um and has hyper inflation of 868 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: a level of the currency has actually turned into nothing. 869 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: Their their currency has really no value. They've abandoned it. 870 00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: They literally inflated the currency into into zero. Uh. But 871 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: things did not get better when they did their land 872 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 1: appropriations there. And if you want to see what that 873 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: was like, because it was happening relatively recently, a documentary, 874 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,720 Speaker 1: I would recommend to you is Mugabe and the White 875 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: I believe it's Mugabe and the White African um which 876 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: I saw years ago and it's specifically about is that 877 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: mcgabi in the white Farmer? I can't remember. Um, I'll producer, Mike, 878 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: let me know which one. It is a documentary. It's 879 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: very good. I saw maybe ten years ago. And it 880 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: shows you you've got a documentary is living on a 881 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: on a white farm? This is in Zimbabwe now next 882 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: door formerly Rhodesia and Zimbabwe after independence. Uh, and they've 883 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: got these what is it, the white African? Yeah, Zimbabwe 884 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 1: and the white Mugabe rather and the white African. Mugabe 885 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: is the dictator of or was until recently the dictator 886 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: of of Zimbabwe. Very bad guy, by the way, very 887 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: bad guy. Um. But in that you see these government 888 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: officials who show up and are just like, you know, 889 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: you white people are scum, your thieves. This is not 890 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: your land. It's our land now it belongs to the people. 891 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: Which by the people they just mean government cronies and 892 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: the power structure. But they're just gonna take it. And 893 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 1: what happened is they stripped the farms down to nothing. 894 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: Nobody was able to or cared to be able to 895 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: plant any crops. They just this is you know, they 896 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: took all the I mean the copper wiring out of 897 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: the buildings, They took the farm equipment, they sold it off. 898 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: Everything was sold and destroyed and nothing left. What do 899 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: people that think is gonna happen if they seize the 900 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: farmers from the farmers in South Africa? What messages that 901 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: send of the world. By the way, Yeah, this is 902 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: distressing and I just would want to note, given to 903 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: how much we talked about refugees, we take refugees from 904 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: Central America because Central America is violent, not because Central 905 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: Americans are being targeted for being Central Americans. We're talking 906 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: about racial targeting by the government in South Africa, a 907 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: relatively advanced economy and country. Why haven't you heard about 908 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 1: this until now? He's holding the line for America. Buck 909 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: Sexton is back. It is now clear that Mr. Scrippan 910 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: and his daughter were poisoned with a military grade nerve 911 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: agent of a type developed by Russia. This is part 912 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: of a group of nerve agents known as Novi chok. 913 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 1: Based on the positive identification of this chemical agent by 914 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: world leading experts at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory 915 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,760 Speaker 1: at Porton down our knowledge that Russia has previously produced 916 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: this agent and would still be capable of doing so, 917 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: Russia's record of conducting state sponsored assassinations, and our assessment 918 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: that Russia views some defectors as legitimate targets for assassinations. 919 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: The government has concluded that it is highly likely that 920 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: Russia was responsible for the act against Serge and to 921 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: the Theresa May, British Prime Minister laying down the law 922 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: there on Moscow and this is this is brazen stuff, 923 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: but it's not new for Russia really. I mean this 924 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: using this substance um, which is a nerve agent that 925 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: as I did some researchs today was coming across that 926 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: it's more potent than VX gas, which sounds like very 927 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: very very nasty stuff indeed. But to assassinate somebody with 928 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: a nerve agent on a street in the UK or 929 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 1: on a park bench I think it's where he was 930 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: found with his daughter, or to try to I know 931 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: they're in there. I believe they're both in hospital and 932 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 1: who knows what the long term damages. But this, this 933 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 1: is how the Russians do things. They enforce loyalty. I 934 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 1: mean Russia is really a run as a mafia state, 935 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: and there's the what's the omerta, the code of silence, right, 936 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 1: they kind of enforced that extra territorially around the world. 937 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: If you defect or that's the old, the old Soviet terminology. 938 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: But if you become an informant for a foreign government 939 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: of foreign intelligence service, or if the Russians believe you 940 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: two have become one, they will get rid of you 941 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: in a way that's meant to show that they. Yeah, 942 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: their fingerprints are all over this. It shows that the 943 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: Russians were behind it. It sends the message very clearly, 944 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: and that's just the way they do things. And you 945 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: start to wonder, well, what are we what are we expecting? 946 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: What are we expecting the response to be? You know, 947 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: this March fourth nerve agent attack on serage screen Paul 948 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: and his daughter Julia also put bystanders at risk and 949 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: bystander who were exposed to this poison. The poison has 950 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: actually left traces at a pub and a pizza parlor 951 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: that they visited, So we're not entirely clear are they've 952 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: gone where they're just making sure I'm not missing this 953 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: on where they were put in contact with this military 954 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: grade nerve agent. But we do know that the Russians 955 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: did this understanding that we were likely to find out 956 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,919 Speaker 1: that it was the Russians, or not that we would 957 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: find out that it was the Russians once we uh, 958 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: we're looking at this, and I know people are already 959 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: bringing up the previous poisons they've done. I mean there 960 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: was one way back when that I think was traced 961 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: to the UH. This was on a on a bridge 962 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: and I think it was traced to the Bulgarian a 963 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: secret police trained by the Soviets, but I could be 964 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: wrong about that. Where they used a rice and tipped 965 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: pellet in an umbrella on on what was a successful assassination. 966 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: This is what they do, and that was for being 967 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: a dissident. I mean there was a time when the 968 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: Soviets would kill you just for being a former for 969 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: being a former Soviet who was telling the world the 970 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: truth about what was going on behind the Iron Curtain. 971 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: But now if you are a turncoat on the Kremlin 972 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, they'll come after you. Now what 973 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: should people have asked me this? You know, what should 974 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: we do about? Oh, by the way, Trump is is uh, 975 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: it's talked about this one earlier today too. As soon 976 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: as we get the fact straight, and we're gonna be 977 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: speaking with the British today. We're speaking with Theresa mate today. 978 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: As as soon as we get the fact straight. If 979 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: we agree with them, we will condemn my show, whoever 980 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: it may be. He says, we'll condemn them for a 981 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of people. That's not sufficient in this case. But 982 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: then I started to push and say, well, what would 983 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: you like him to do? You know, it was a 984 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: Russian missile with Russian back separatists that shot a plane 985 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: full of AIDS researchers out of the sky and kill 986 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: over a hundred people. I forget what the full number was. 987 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Remember that back a few years ago under the Obama 988 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: administration and a Russian missile shot a civilian jet liner 989 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: out of the sky. You know what, what was the 990 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: big retaliation we did there? Now they'll say it was 991 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: an accident, but the point is the Russians were responsible 992 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: for that. Um it was Russian aggression in Ukraine that 993 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: even made that a problem in the first place. What 994 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: would folks really like us do. Maybe they'll expel diplomats 995 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: in the UK, you know, maybe they will get rid 996 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: of some people that they believe are stooping around doing 997 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: shady stuff for the Russians in the UK. All right, 998 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: But the truth is, you know, we've got to find 999 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: more creative ways to slap back at Putin. I mean, 1000 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 1: the media is gonna complain about how, oh it's it's 1001 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: not strong enough and the language isn't isn't clear enough. 1002 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: What's that? You think Putin gives a crap what anybody 1003 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: in the country says about what Russia did. No, right, 1004 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: that's just foolishness, that's just utter nonsense. So then you 1005 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: have to look too, Okay, what are really the feasible responses? 1006 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: And the answer is I haven't seen one yet. I 1007 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna do about this. You know, 1008 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: the Russians played dirty and they played by a different code, 1009 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: and we've already got sanctions against them. So we'll keep 1010 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: an eye on this. I'm gonna try to think of 1011 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: what a what a good retaliatory response would be. And 1012 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: we've got our friend, uh Fred Flights join us here 1013 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: talking about North Korea in a minute, so stay with me. 1014 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: So North Korea big in the headlines in the last 1015 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: few days because of the upcoming Trump Kim Jong un summit. 1016 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Some people are saying this is going to be the 1017 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: beginning of a of a new era in US North 1018 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Korean relations. Others are saying it's a trap, it's a 1019 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: terrible idea, it's gonna be a diplomatic ambush of sorts. Well, 1020 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: what's true and what's not. We've got Fred Flights with 1021 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: us now on the line. He is, like me, a 1022 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: former CIA analyst uh pred is also the off of 1023 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: the upcoming UH The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare, which 1024 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: is a book you should all check out. It's available 1025 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: on Amazon, and he's a senior vice president for policy 1026 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: and Programs at the Center for Security Policy. Fred, Great 1027 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: to have you back, man, Thanks for making the time. 1028 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: Hey Bacco to be here. All right, let's let's start 1029 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,479 Speaker 1: before we get into the specifics of your book, although 1030 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: it's obviously going to tie into our conversation. What do 1031 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: you what do you make of the Trump offer? Just 1032 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: take us to the thirty thousand foot view here. Well, 1033 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: I think we have to consider that President Trump has 1034 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 1: changed in the game concerning North Korea's unorthodox diplomacy, which 1035 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: everyone was criticizing a few years ago as trying to 1036 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: get US into a war. Those same people who had 1037 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: nothing bad to say about Obama's abysmal policies, the latter 1038 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: runs North Korea's nuclear missile programs to surge. Now they're 1039 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: condemning the President for giving away too much. So I 1040 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 1: think the President has put the fear of God in 1041 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: the in the in the North Koreans and forced them 1042 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: to change tactics. Um, I don't think there's sincere. Frankly, 1043 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that this is probably a ploy to divide 1044 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: US some other countries, to get concessions and to weaken 1045 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: sanctions and to buy time to continue developing its nuclear 1046 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: missile programs. But at a minimum, we have a change 1047 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: in tactics, and the next task is to get the 1048 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: North Koreans to prove their sincerity and wanting to do 1049 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: nuclear eyes. Now, the pressure is going to continue. Do 1050 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: you think that it would be wise for the administration 1051 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: to continue to reach out to China and others say 1052 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: you've got to keep this going? Or could that sour 1053 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: the talks before they even happen. Now we have to 1054 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: keep the pressure on. We're going to do that. The 1055 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: South Koreans has said that they're going to do that. 1056 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: We can't do what we've done in the past, basically 1057 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: let our guard down, which is what the North Koreans 1058 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: are after weakening sanctions. And you know, when we start 1059 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: pressing them for things like inspections, they've got to be 1060 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: robust inspections. We can't do what the Iranians and the 1061 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: North Koreans have done in similar circumstances, putting a lot 1062 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: of the sensitive sites off limits, so the world can't 1063 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: determine what types of illegal nuclear activities they were engaged in. 1064 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of Fred Flights, he's a formacy I analysts and 1065 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: author of The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare. Fred, take 1066 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: me into the book, which is obviously very topical because 1067 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: we're now faced with a the most important negotiation. I 1068 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say of Trump's life most likely 1069 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: thus far, it's certainly got to make it in the 1070 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: top three or four. Um. But tell me about the 1071 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: North Korean Nuclear Nightmare as you see it. Well, The 1072 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Coming North kore Nuclear Nightmare has a subtitle what Trump 1073 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: must do to reverse Obama Strategic Patients. You know, I 1074 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: talked about how numerous presidents have mishandled North Korea and 1075 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: have been taken advantage of certainly Clinton was George W. 1076 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Bush was taken advantage up by the North queens very badly. 1077 01:04:55,200 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: But nothing compares to the incredibly incompetence date eg Patient's 1078 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: policy of the Abom administration, which basically was a policy 1079 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: to kick the North Korean situation down the road. Well, 1080 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: It's nuclear missile programs were growing and growing and growing 1081 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: under Kim Jong Owen, and that left what President Trump 1082 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: has often described as a mess when he came into office. 1083 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: We know Susan Rice said earlier in the Trump administration 1084 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: that we just have to accept North Korea as a 1085 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: nuclear power. That sort of sums up the Abom administration's 1086 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: approach to ran into Korea. Let's just live with it. 1087 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: That's unacceptable. That's what the president said. And I think 1088 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: by actually putting the use of force on the table 1089 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 1: and an unorthodox farm policy really has ratchet up sanctions 1090 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: and sanctions compliance. As I said earlier, he has changed 1091 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: the game towards North Korea, and I discussed that in 1092 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: the book. Now, fred I as I see it, um 1093 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: and there might be a third option I'm not bringing 1094 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: up here, so feel free to toss that in the 1095 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: next two But assuming the Trump talks fail, which I 1096 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: think and this is not a declaration from my part 1097 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: about whether I think it's a good idea or not. 1098 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm actually I think that that Trump your point, shaking 1099 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: up the game. He's got to do something right. I mean, 1100 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: the pathway we're on is not sustainable. But let's say 1101 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: that it doesn't happen. Let's say it is. What I 1102 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: believe you agree is the most likely scenario. That this 1103 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: is either Kim Jong installing for time, trying to take 1104 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 1: some concessions out of our hands, all the things that 1105 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: one would expect here from this regime based on previous behavior. 1106 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: It seems to me that we have two paths which 1107 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: after that, which would be on the one hand, learned 1108 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: to try and live with a fully nuclear capable North 1109 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 1: Korea that has I C b M s that can 1110 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: hit anywhere in the world, or some kind of a 1111 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: military strike. Is there a third option? And what do 1112 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: you think we do about those options as I put 1113 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: them out there, Well, we first have to talk about 1114 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: what is the purpose of North Korea's nuclear and nuclear 1115 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: weapons and missiles. And I think with sixty nuclear weapons 1116 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: according to the intelligence community and I C b ms, 1117 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: we can't consider this a determ aren't anymore. This is 1118 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: an offensive force that the North plans to use eventually 1119 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: to force the unification of the creates on its terms 1120 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 1: and to drive US from the region. So there is 1121 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: going to be a military conflict eventually. That's why if 1122 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: these talks don't go well, and if if if another 1123 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: round of sanctions and an additional diplomatic pressure fails, I 1124 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: argue in the book that we have to start considering 1125 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: the limited use of military force against North Korea, perhaps 1126 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: with a naval blockade and shooting down missiles, to further 1127 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: ratchet up the pressure, and the economic pressure should be 1128 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: ratched up significantly. This is already causing pain to North 1129 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: create North Crean economy. I think they respect strength, and 1130 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 1: I think the use of force like that will be 1131 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: another step towards convincing them to negotiating good faith to 1132 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: give up the nuclear weapons. What would limited use of 1133 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: force against North Korea conceivably look like. Well, I'm thinking 1134 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: of a naval blockade and shooting down missiles, basically saying 1135 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 1: to to North Korea that We're not going to tolerate 1136 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: UH any more missile tests, and we we may expand 1137 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: that to taking out missiles on the ground. The North 1138 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: is already afraid We're going to do that, which is 1139 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 1: why it has been launching missiles from UH near Pyongyang, 1140 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,679 Speaker 1: near populated areas, because it fears the US might start 1141 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: doing this. UM. It is intolerable that the North is 1142 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: beginning to develop I C. D ms and may already 1143 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 1: have them that they could use to transport nuclear weapons 1144 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: against the United States. And I think time is running 1145 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 1: out fred for folks at home, how should they think 1146 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: of the willingness of the North Korean regime to do 1147 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: something that we would see very unwise, but that they 1148 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 1: may feel cornered to do and UH kill a whole 1149 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of people in the process. Well, I mean some 1150 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 1: people have wondered whether Kim Jong un is interested in 1151 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: firing missiles at Guam or at the United States, may 1152 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 1: be unprovoked. I don't think that the North Korean regime 1153 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: has a wish UH. And I think that if there 1154 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,719 Speaker 1: was a limited use of military force, such a shooting 1155 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: down missiles, the North is not going to attacks out 1156 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 1: Korea or the United States because we would flatten the 1157 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: country UH. And I think eventually, if these talks fail, 1158 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 1: we may have to make it clear to them, we're 1159 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: simply not going to tower anymore. I CBM tests, and 1160 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: you know if you're going to test this on that 1161 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: we're going to start shooting them down. Is there a 1162 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: universe of really, let me looking put it this way, 1163 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,600 Speaker 1: let me rephrase this. Is there a realistic proposition in 1164 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,560 Speaker 1: your mind that after this Trump summit? Now I'm not 1165 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: saying likely, but is it even realistic to think that 1166 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: there's a world in which North Korea moves towards actual 1167 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: de nuclearization. It's hard to imagine that that's going to happen, 1168 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 1: especially after one meeting. All we can say is that 1169 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,440 Speaker 1: the President has forced the North Koreans to change tactics. 1170 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten a response whether they're actually going to 1171 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 1: attend the summit. I think they were surprise. There was 1172 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: a surprise as everyone else when President Trump immediately accepted 1173 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: this offer, And right now I think they're trying to 1174 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: formulate their response, and I expect they're going to have 1175 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: some unacceptable conditions, such as we'll get rid of our 1176 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons if all US forces are pulled out of 1177 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: South Korea, which is not going to happen. Um we 1178 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 1: we we know we will see. I'd like to see 1179 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: the summer take place in Seoul to expose Kim Jong 1180 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: lun to South Korean society and its prosperity. I don't 1181 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: know if that's going to change his mind, but I'd 1182 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 1: like to get him out of North Korea and maybe 1183 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 1: weaken the relationship he has with I think a number 1184 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: of very malign advisors. One last one for you, Fred, 1185 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: Just so we can set expectations, and we know the 1186 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 1: media is going to move the media overall, we'll move 1187 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,560 Speaker 1: goalposts on this. You know, a few months ago it 1188 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: was Trump is taking us into nuclear war with his tweets. 1189 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Now it's Trump is rushing into diplomacy. You know, it's 1190 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: it's always one or the other. But so we can 1191 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: understand what expectations should be. What would um, let's say, 1192 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: a low probability but high impact diplomatic victory from the 1193 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 1: Trump side look like after this summer. What's the best 1194 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: that we could reasonably hope for if Trump and again, 1195 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 1: as you said, maybe it doesn't even happen, if Trump 1196 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: and Kim Jong n sit down, what does winning look like? 1197 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I think an outline for denuclearizing and for lower intentions 1198 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 1: is the best we could hope for I don't think 1199 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 1: it will be in agreement. And there are ways to 1200 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 1: lower tensions in North Koreans MNA theygree to, like possibly 1201 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 1: sending Chinese or Russian peacekeepers into North Korea to guarantee them. 1202 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: But you know, there's no chance of the US attack 1203 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: as it would be an attack on Russia or China. 1204 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so creative ways that could be pursued 1205 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: to try to address their interests in d nuclearization if 1206 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: they're sincere, but so far we don't know that. All right, 1207 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: Fred flights everybody, former cy I analysts book coming out, 1208 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare, available now on Amazon. Fred, 1209 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: it's a bailable on Amazon, and we're doing a Facebook 1210 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: live press conference two pm on UH Wednesday. All Right, fantastic, everybody, 1211 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: be sure to check it out tomorrow the Facebook live 1212 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: for the book. Fred, thank you so much for your time, 1213 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 1: my friend. I appreciate it. Good to be here. We're 1214 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 1: gona roll into a quick break. We've got our three 1215 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: coming up, and I'm going to be talking about politics 1216 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: with our friend Selena Zito. This race that's just about 1217 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 1: just about over in terms of the voting or at 1218 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 1: least we're at the deadline. Um, we'll tell you what's 1219 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: going on, so stay with us. So there's a big election, 1220 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 1: as you may have heard, going on as we are 1221 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: on air. In fact, polls have just closed, I believe 1222 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,759 Speaker 1: as we go on air here at around eight Eastern 1223 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Standard time. Selena Zito is with us now to discuss this, 1224 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 1: and she's gonna tell us what she thinks is going 1225 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 1: on here. She is a CNN contributor, a New York 1226 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: Post columnists, and author of the upcoming book The Great 1227 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: The Great Revolt, which we're hoping we'll have a great 1228 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 1: result because you're all going to buy it out in May. Selena, 1229 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so 1230 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 1: much for having me. So we got eighteen congressional district 1231 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 1: in play here. We've talked to you. I believe about 1232 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: this one specifically before Connor Lamb versus Rick Sconi. Lamb 1233 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 1: is a Democrat, Scone is the Republican. There's also a 1234 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 1: Libertarian named Drew Miller, which is so cute. I just 1235 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: like how the Libertarians are just they're just in there, 1236 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's adorable. Anyway, what do you think is 1237 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen with Lamb and CICONI here. Well, you know, 1238 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Lamb has had the edge in the past two weeks. 1239 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: He has the most excitement generated around his candidacy. Um. 1240 01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, for a number of unique reasons. He's not 1241 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,560 Speaker 1: used the word Democrat in any on any of this 1242 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,759 Speaker 1: campaign signs. Um. He I haven't noticed it on his website. 1243 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: Now there might it might be on there somewhere, Um, 1244 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: but it's not in his ads. He's essentially run independent 1245 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 1: of his party. He put the gauntlet down early with 1246 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 1: a very effective ad saying running against Nancy Pelos name, 1247 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: he's pro gun, he's for the president's tariff and um 1248 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 1: in In many ways, this election is like a Republican 1249 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: primary with a more conservative Republican running against a more 1250 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,280 Speaker 1: moderate Republican Connor Lean amazults are very young, he's very charming. 1251 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: He has a great background military form and a former 1252 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 1: federal prosecutor. Yeah, so he has what I mean, he's 1253 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 1: the perfect Democrat. But there's a couple of things we 1254 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: need to think about here. But is he really a Democrat? Selena, 1255 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He's pro life and pro gun, 1256 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 1: which feels like, how does he sit on the same 1257 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: side of the I'm sorry. Yeah, when it gets to Washington, 1258 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: he has to be a Democrat. No, I know, but 1259 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, how does he sit next to 1260 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi with a straight face as somebody who's pro 1261 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,640 Speaker 1: gun and pro pro life not life, Oh, I thought you. 1262 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Oh oh no, No. In fact, he's not even for 1263 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the twenty week van important distinction, so he's not very important. Yeah, 1264 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 1: it's very important distinctions. I thought he was really running 1265 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 1: as essentially a stealth Republican, like the old schoolmember the 1266 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: gun total Democrats of your who were all about guns 1267 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 1: and grew up one of those Democrats. That's that, you know, 1268 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 1: you're born Catholic and a Democrat in Western Pennsis. So 1269 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: that's that's an important distinguishing characteristic. And so yeah, because 1270 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: you you can't be in good stead with the modern 1271 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: Democrat party. I don't care what the situation is if 1272 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 1: you're you know, he was going to have to flip 1273 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: that position if he didn't have it already. But you're 1274 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: telling me he has pro choice, So there we go. Yeah. 1275 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of unique things about this race. 1276 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: First of all, this this seat no longer or exists 1277 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 1: thanks to the state Supreme Court, which throughout the old 1278 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 1: congressional districts eighteen of them, calling them unconstitutional, and which 1279 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 1: is interesting because they did that seven years after they 1280 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 1: were drawn. So I don't know how they all of 1281 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,640 Speaker 1: a sudden became unconstitutional. Await, there was an election and 1282 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Democrats won the majority in the state Supreme Court. Maybe 1283 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 1: that has something to do with it. Anyways, Um, so 1284 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 1: this district no longer exists. Um. Second of all, he 1285 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:39,560 Speaker 1: is garnering support from unions who robustly supported Trump in 1286 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: this district in two thousand and sixteen. But because the 1287 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: CONE is a pro is a right to work guy, 1288 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 1: they do not He does not UM gather their support. 1289 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: So I think the deciding vote here is going to 1290 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,599 Speaker 1: be on the union vote, the union family household votes, 1291 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: and that's the boat that could um triggered this in 1292 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 1: in Lamb's direction, there are thousand more registered Democrats in 1293 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 1: this UH in this district despite Trump winning it by 1294 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 1: twenty percentage points. So this would be because because at 1295 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 1: the national level, obviously this is gonna there's there's limited 1296 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 1: data you could draw from this for how the Democrats 1297 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: wereun in the mid terms, and this is where all 1298 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,639 Speaker 1: the old cliches about all congressional races are actually local 1299 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: and all that stuff applies. But here's Selena. You would 1300 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 1: have someone who is running essentially as a prototype of 1301 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 1: what the Democrats could do in other places to try 1302 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: to win back the voters that Trump got to beat 1303 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: Hillary in those key states like Pennsylvania, right exactly, And 1304 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: and and um, Lamb faces his own challenges if he 1305 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,599 Speaker 1: wins this evening. He is now thrust into a different 1306 01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 1: congressional district where he will face aggressive primary challengers. He 1307 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,640 Speaker 1: has not faced the primary before, and as we all understand, 1308 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 1: including progressives, that is where the energy is. So you 1309 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: have to wonder are they willing to go with the 1310 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: guy that's a proven winner or do they want to 1311 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: go in with more with their passions UM on the resistance. Um. 1312 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 1: He also has never sorted. He has never once criticized 1313 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 1: President Trump during this entire election, So what will happen 1314 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 1: to him in a primary? So those are those are 1315 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: the things going forward. But I think the lesson if 1316 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 1: if Lamb wins, I think the lesson is that Republicans 1317 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: need a better message outside of Nancy Pelosi is bad 1318 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,880 Speaker 1: because they need to talk about their accomplishments and not 1319 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: be so afraid of talking about Trump's accublishments. The Republican 1320 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 1: Party has changed. It's more populist in nature, and they 1321 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: need to to feed the beast in populism, and populism 1322 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 1: isn't just about anger, It's also about aspiration. Now. I 1323 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 1: talk a lot about that in my book The Great Revolt, 1324 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 1: about understanding who these new coalitions are. We're speaking to 1325 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 1: Selena Zito. She has seen, a contributor to New York 1326 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Post Commist, author of the upcoming opus The Great Revolt, 1327 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 1: which she just mentioned. Selena, what are some of the 1328 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: lessons and takeaways from your book that are applicable to 1329 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 1: this race right now in Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania is obviously 1330 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: one of those key states that everyone was like, whoa 1331 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: hold on a second Trump can and yes, in fact 1332 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 1: he did win that state. Yeah. I mean, elections are 1333 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,439 Speaker 1: about you know, gas pedal, brake pedal, right, and typically 1334 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,560 Speaker 1: in midterms, voters want to put the brake pedal on 1335 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: the current party in power. So what they need to 1336 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 1: do is understand that they need to run again, as 1337 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I just said, on a more populist, more aspirational um 1338 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 1: campaign and less about the negatives on Nancy Pelosi. Talk 1339 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,520 Speaker 1: about what you've accomplished, talk about what you want to accomplish, 1340 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 1: sort of like the way that Ronald Reagan and and Trump, 1341 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:18,719 Speaker 1: even though people don't always get that, how he made 1342 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 1: people want to be part of something bigger than themselves. 1343 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's the key. I don't think people 1344 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 1: are hungry for a negative. I mean they should be 1345 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 1: reminded that if they if if the Republicans lose, Nancy 1346 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 1: Pelosi will be the House Speaker by all intents and purposes. 1347 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 1: But they also need to be reminded that they have 1348 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,360 Speaker 1: to continue to go forward and here are the reasons. 1349 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,719 Speaker 1: And that message was very missing in this special election. 1350 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 1: Let's assume for a second that these results Selena, which 1351 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: are going to be coming in the earliest results should 1352 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 1: be coming in shortly here, and we'll be looking at 1353 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 1: them when we're all on air. But let's assume for 1354 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,720 Speaker 1: the purpose of our conversation that Connor Lamb does in 1355 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: fact win this thing. What is the democra What does 1356 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,760 Speaker 1: that do for the Democrat message going into the midterms. 1357 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 1: Do you think it affects it at a national level? 1358 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: You think they'll take this as a lesson learned or 1359 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 1: is it just going to be a wait and see 1360 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,560 Speaker 1: until we get much closer. I mean, if there's a 1361 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,759 Speaker 1: such a one Democratic strategist for my story this evening, 1362 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I said, you know, what, what do 1363 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 1: you think? And he said, well, if we're starts, we're smart. Uh. 1364 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Connor Lambs will win in primaries. But we don't control primaries. 1365 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: The people do. And it has been proven that the 1366 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 1: more active, the more engage, the more excited Democrats are 1367 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: are the ones that are more progressive. We don't know 1368 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 1: yet if they'll be willing to compromise some of their um, 1369 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:57,600 Speaker 1: their their agenda to win. I mean, Ron Emmanuel was 1370 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,599 Speaker 1: incredibly good and make sure that happened in two thousand 1371 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 1: and six. And you've got moderate Democrats elected in primaries 1372 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 1: in in swing states like western Pennsylvania and Michigan and 1373 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: Ohio and Wisconsin and Iowa. Uh, they've got to go 1374 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,799 Speaker 1: through that process and they have to convince their voters 1375 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: in those kinds of districts that you want a Conner Lamb. 1376 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:27,560 Speaker 1: It is I'm unsure if if the most um, the 1377 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 1: hard left progressive types are not going to be excited 1378 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 1: about the national level DNC efforts to get out the 1379 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 1: vote that include, yeah, we like guys who are kind 1380 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 1: of pro n r A. In some places, you might 1381 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 1: have some progressive activists that even you know, kick up 1382 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,479 Speaker 1: some dust about this one. You get the Bernie Brows 1383 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 1: and sisters may not like that too much going into 1384 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 1: the mid terms. And and the intellectual liberals too, you know, 1385 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: they're also you know, incredibly um swept up in this 1386 01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:02,719 Speaker 1: resistance UH movement, and resistance is not aspirational. Both parties 1387 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 1: need to understand. To morder to capture the imagination of 1388 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: their voters, it has to include this sweeping motion that 1389 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: you are going to be part of something bigger than yourself, 1390 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,560 Speaker 1: and you are going to be part of something with 1391 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: other people that's in our d n A. UM Trump 1392 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 1: was very good at that. We'll see if they they're 1393 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 1: able to do that in the mid terms. Selena Zero everybody, 1394 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 1: author of the upcoming The Great Revolt. You can pre 1395 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 1: order now on Amazon and I recommend you all do. 1396 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,799 Speaker 1: I'll be reading it. I hope you do as well. Selena, 1397 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining Always appreciate when you 1398 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: make the time. Thank you so much for having me 1399 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,560 Speaker 1: team we're going to roll into a break. We'll have 1400 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,559 Speaker 1: any updates for you on the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania election as 1401 01:23:48,640 --> 01:24:07,440 Speaker 1: we can, and we'll be right back. The Governator Schwarzenegger, 1402 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: who I have so much fondness for because of his 1403 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 1: contributions to the pantheon of action movie greatness and his 1404 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: lines like I'll be back get through the chopp all 1405 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 1: of it amazing, really a major part of my childhood, 1406 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 1: which perhaps explains a lot of how I view the world. 1407 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,719 Speaker 1: Considering that a guy who was benching over four hundred 1408 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,679 Speaker 1: pounds was clearly taking performance in dancing drugs and played 1409 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Conan the barbarian all too well was like my hero 1410 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,599 Speaker 1: growing up. But anyway, I give Schwarzenegger a a wide berth. 1411 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, that guy's obviously made some mistakes. You know, 1412 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: he's done some things that were not good, both as 1413 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 1: a politician and as a as a private person. No 1414 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: need for me to get into that, but you know, 1415 01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 1: really really arnold some of the stuff that we found 1416 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 1: out in recent years was was a little tough. I'm glad, 1417 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,599 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad I'm an older man that I can 1418 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 1: see that we all make mistakes, and maybe I shouldn't 1419 01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 1: judge too much, although I guess I'm on a radio 1420 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: show and I have to judge that. All said Arnold 1421 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger is still waxing philosophical on policy and this is 1422 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: just going too far. He was at south By Southwest, 1423 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 1: which has become this major media music thing in Austin. 1424 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 1: I've I've never been, but I'd like to go at 1425 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,160 Speaker 1: some point. I know it's going on Austin right now. 1426 01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: Next year, maybe I'll use it as another excuse to 1427 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: go visit Austin. But he's down there and he says, 1428 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 1: and he said this on Politico's Off Message podcast, which 1429 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: I had never even heard of before. And yeah, there's 1430 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: that that quote. Uh. He wants to take on oil 1431 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,599 Speaker 1: companies for quote knowingly killing people all over the world. 1432 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 1: He right, He said that this is no different from 1433 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,320 Speaker 1: the smoking issue that tobacco industry new for years and 1434 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 1: years and decades that smoking would kill people, would harm people, 1435 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 1: and create cancer, and we're hiding that fact the from 1436 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 1: people and denied it. Then eventually they were taking a 1437 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,879 Speaker 1: court and had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars 1438 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 1: because of that. The oil companies knew from nine on 1439 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 1: they did their own study that there would be global 1440 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 1: warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of 1441 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 1: that it would be risky for people's lives. He says 1442 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 1: that this is like climate change man, this is you know, 1443 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 1: he's hosting a major environmental conference in May and Vienna. 1444 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,640 Speaker 1: This is just all crap. This is what people do 1445 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,799 Speaker 1: now when they want to burnish their brands because climate 1446 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,719 Speaker 1: change gets you. So it gets you a very loyal, 1447 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:47,120 Speaker 1: very globalist, internationalist audience that it gets big donor supporters 1448 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,680 Speaker 1: to your side, and the people who don't believe in 1449 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 1: this ignore it like a religion that they don't really 1450 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 1: care about for the most part until they make us 1451 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 1: deal with it. So that's why I just see this 1452 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: as this is pandering. I mean, Schwartzenegger doesn't need to 1453 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 1: do this um by the way he says, quote, we're 1454 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 1: going to go after them and we're going to be 1455 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 1: in there like an Alabama tick. Because to me, it's 1456 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,759 Speaker 1: absolutely irresponsible to know that your product is killing people 1457 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,719 Speaker 1: and not have a warning label on it, like tobacco. 1458 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,280 Speaker 1: Every gas station on it, every car should have a 1459 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 1: warning label on it. Every product that has fossil fuel 1460 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,519 Speaker 1: should have a warning label on it. This is the 1461 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 1: dumbest thing that the governator has said in a long time. 1462 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe ever as a total aside here, 1463 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 1: but one that I could not help but point out. 1464 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: His phrase here, we're going to be in there like 1465 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 1: an Alabama tic is all too close to what Jesse 1466 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 1: the Body Ventura says in the movie Predator when referring 1467 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 1: to a pill box of enemy he shoulds they're dugging 1468 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:51,479 Speaker 1: there like an Alabama tic. I don't think that's an accident, friends, 1469 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: I think Schwarzenegger now in his political podcast, is dropping 1470 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,840 Speaker 1: some not so well known action movie lines because that's 1471 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 1: just how he rolls. That's kind of a strange phrase 1472 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 1: for a guy from Austria, from the Austrian Alps to use. 1473 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not like he just 1474 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,880 Speaker 1: threw in a yodel here. He's saying Alabama tick, not 1475 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 1: from Alabamare to the California. What is this guy? I'm 1476 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 1: telling if you go back, we could even find it. 1477 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Maybe for tomorrow. There's a Jesse the Body venture a 1478 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,560 Speaker 1: line where he says that in in Predators, in like 1479 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 1: an Alabama chick. You go um anyway, This is craziness. 1480 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,160 Speaker 1: This is, though, a an issue that we're gonna have 1481 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,519 Speaker 1: to deal with because people think that there's real money 1482 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 1: involved as well as real power. And if it is 1483 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: their belief that they will be able to sue for 1484 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions, maybe billions of dollars, they view that 1485 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 1: as progress for social justice, even if it doesn't slow 1486 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,599 Speaker 1: down the global warming stuff. Right, So you gotta remember 1487 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 1: that even if they're wrong on the science, they think 1488 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 1: they're right in principle. Even if the global warming alarmists 1489 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 1: believe that they're not going to be able to prove 1490 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 1: the things that they say. If it isn't true, but 1491 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,520 Speaker 1: it rings true to borrow from that recent Trump biography, 1492 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:12,639 Speaker 1: guy Uh, then they feel like it's good enough because 1493 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna use this money for development the third world. 1494 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,400 Speaker 1: This becomes a massive wealth transfer scheme from you and 1495 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,280 Speaker 1: me to other parts of the world. And it's also 1496 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 1: a form of paying for indulgences. Back in the old 1497 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,800 Speaker 1: Catholic Church in the medieval period, you know, you could 1498 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,000 Speaker 1: pay for your sins. This is that on a global scale. 1499 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:40,280 Speaker 1: This is paying money as an apology for how wealthy 1500 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 1: and prosperous America has become and trying to prop up 1501 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the world with it, but it's ultimately 1502 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 1: doomed by think too to failure. Attorneys general from various states, 1503 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, Schneiderman and others. Schneiderman's here in New York. 1504 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 1: They thought about doing this. This is a movement that's 1505 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 1: going to continue on it. It's gonna be like reparations movement, 1506 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 1: the reparations movement in this country. He's also been talked 1507 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 1: about for decades. And it'll get enough steam that you 1508 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 1: actually have to pay attention to it because it will 1509 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,280 Speaker 1: become a legal issue, and then it'll get pushed back 1510 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,479 Speaker 1: and then we'll get steam. But the governorator is really 1511 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,280 Speaker 1: upsetting me here. Why don't you want to global it's 1512 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: climate chance? Like it's really hard, you know, it's it's 1513 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 1: much better if you have like the Conan O'Brien show 1514 01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,600 Speaker 1: the face and you do the mouth, because really that 1515 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,280 Speaker 1: doesn't sound it's a comment, you know, you know, it 1516 01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 1: doesn't really sound like Schwarzeneger at all, but because you 1517 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,680 Speaker 1: can see his face, it sounds a little like it. 1518 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 1: I gotta work on with Schwarzenegger because he's not really 1519 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 1: German in the and it's not like yeah, coutin talk. 1520 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 1: He's not in that realm at all. He's got it. 1521 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 1: He's really got his own accent. He's really uh almost 1522 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 1: like speaking his own his own version of English in 1523 01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:52,639 Speaker 1: a way that Schwarzenegger style. It's disappointing though, to see 1524 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 1: this with the governor. Anyway, we're gonna get into some 1525 01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,720 Speaker 1: roll call coming up here in in just a few 1526 01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,240 Speaker 1: minutes if you want to call in eight four or 1527 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 1: four nine to eight five eight Buck. Also, you can 1528 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at buck Sexton. We'll be right back. 1529 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton his back. 1530 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: But Lettons are a virus in the Democratic Party. You 1531 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 1: have to move on if this is our messaging. Thought 1532 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 1: that I thought that it was time for them to 1533 01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,559 Speaker 1: back off right now. Right now. I don't think they're 1534 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 1: helping the party right message. There's one things are getting 1535 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,160 Speaker 1: testy on the view over this one. You know, the 1536 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,040 Speaker 1: old pro Hillary guard. They don't want to let it go. 1537 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,839 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just gonna say it. It's like boomers 1538 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,719 Speaker 1: with the rolling Stones. It's just getting weird now. They're 1539 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,639 Speaker 1: they're they're they're no longer like rock stars that should 1540 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,680 Speaker 1: be marrying twenty two year olds and doing all the 1541 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,599 Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. I'm just saying it's getting weird now. 1542 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 1: You know. People are like, oh, the Stones and they're 1543 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,560 Speaker 1: still going strong, and like, there's only so far nostalgic 1544 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,800 Speaker 1: can really get you, folks, all right, And the same 1545 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:22,080 Speaker 1: thing true with the Clintons. There's a whole media group 1546 01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,880 Speaker 1: of boomers out there in particular, who just the Clintons. 1547 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,720 Speaker 1: They associate the Clintons with the America that they know, 1548 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 1: and and Hillary and Bill were gonna make it all 1549 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 1: better and the big mean Republicans and Kent Star came 1550 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,479 Speaker 1: out for them, and they just can't let it go. 1551 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,519 Speaker 1: That's why Hillary can wander around just being terrible and 1552 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,320 Speaker 1: saying all kinds of really unhelpful things, and I mean 1553 01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 1: unhelpful from the perspective of being a Democrat, right, I 1554 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 1: mean unhelpful for everyone. Republicans don't want to hear it, 1555 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,560 Speaker 1: and Democrats don't need to hear it, because all it 1556 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,840 Speaker 1: is is her whining about what happened. Here's what she's 1557 01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: been saying. His whole campaign make America Rate Again was 1558 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,840 Speaker 1: looking backwards. You know, you didn't like black people getting 1559 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,439 Speaker 1: right you don't like women, you know, getting jobs, you 1560 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,640 Speaker 1: don't want it. And you know see that Indian Americans 1561 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: succeeding more than you are. Whatever your problem is, I'm 1562 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna solve that. So it was a symptom, but it 1563 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:23,800 Speaker 1: was also a cause. I mean, Hillary is amazing, you know, 1564 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:29,280 Speaker 1: she she can't even she she can't help herself. But 1565 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 1: say that the reason that she couldn't win over the 1566 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 1: sixty three million people who voted against her in the 1567 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,520 Speaker 1: last election was because they're a bunch of racist, redneck hillbilly's. 1568 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty much. It doesn't really take much on our 1569 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,240 Speaker 1: own plate by way of responsibility for any of this 1570 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 1: doesn't really have anything to to add into the national 1571 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,679 Speaker 1: conversation other than just to say that, you know, Trump 1572 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,599 Speaker 1: is a racist. But I'm actually hopeful, and I will 1573 01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 1: say this, I am hopeful that Hillary is not going 1574 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 1: to go anywhere for quite a while. I would like 1575 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 1: her to be running around and used as a surrogate 1576 01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,280 Speaker 1: for the Democrat Party as much as much as is 1577 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 1: possible and as much as is feasible. I would like 1578 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,559 Speaker 1: to see Hillary Clinton running around and saying, you know, wow, 1579 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 1: Trump is race instant, just saying all kinds of very 1580 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:29,280 Speaker 1: derogatory and disrespectful things about the electorate. Remember we were 1581 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 1: just talking before to Selina Zeno about this Democrats play 1582 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,800 Speaker 1: in some of these states is going to have to 1583 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:42,040 Speaker 1: be going more moderate Democrats are gonna have to run 1584 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,920 Speaker 1: Lamb like for Connor Lamb, not like mad Lamb like 1585 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:52,280 Speaker 1: candidates in some of these other congressional races. And that's 1586 01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:56,360 Speaker 1: gonna mean that they need to clear the slate as 1587 01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 1: much as possible of just the the detroitus of political 1588 01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 1: careers passed, you know, the the leftovers of the Clintons. 1589 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 1: But it's just funny to see it because it's like 1590 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,160 Speaker 1: the media doesn't get the message. You know, they still 1591 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,560 Speaker 1: want to have Clinton access, and they still want to 1592 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,919 Speaker 1: have the favors of being in tight with the Clintons 1593 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,639 Speaker 1: and the fact that that's no longer something that's good 1594 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,080 Speaker 1: for the left of the Democrat Party. The message is 1595 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 1: getting them pretty slowly. They haven't yet totally given up 1596 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 1: on it. What's gonna end up happening though, and this 1597 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,320 Speaker 1: this takes me to the discussion we had last week 1598 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,920 Speaker 1: about Netflix. What's going to happen is that when they 1599 01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: start rolling out Obama as overall Democrat, you know, stand 1600 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 1: in and Hillary as everything can say are we just 1601 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 1: need we need more Obama and less Hillary. And I 1602 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,640 Speaker 1: think that that's going to be the way that this 1603 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 1: all plays out. It will only be when the Democrats 1604 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,400 Speaker 1: have to stare down a mid term victory for Trump 1605 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,280 Speaker 1: that they finally show a real willingness us to back 1606 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,360 Speaker 1: off of the Hillary express. I don't think there are 1607 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 1: some members of the media, and I mean big ones, 1608 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean big names, who think Hillary would be a 1609 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 1: good idea. They think that's the only way to set 1610 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,640 Speaker 1: this right. I mean they are Their insanity over how 1611 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:21,160 Speaker 1: much they hate Trump is only matched by the delusion 1612 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,800 Speaker 1: of how much they love Hillary and how viable they 1613 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,400 Speaker 1: think she is politically. All Right, I just wanted to 1614 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:27,880 Speaker 1: throw that in there for a second. We're gonna get 1615 01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 1: into some roll call here, so stay with me. Well, 1616 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 1: it's been quite a day here in the Freedom hond 1617 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:51,120 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed what we've dived into together. I 1618 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,840 Speaker 1: always said doved into, but I think that's wrong. It's 1619 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,600 Speaker 1: gonna be dived And since I'm a have diven have 1620 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 1: been dived to know something like that. Dove, Yeah, we 1621 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,439 Speaker 1: dove into together. I know, I'm just it's late in 1622 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,760 Speaker 1: the show, John, I'm tired. Uh. But speaking of which, 1623 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Thank you for the assistant. Speaking of which, 1624 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 1: it's time for roll call. Hit it, Team Buck. It's 1625 01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,080 Speaker 1: time for roll call. I like women the base drops. 1626 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,519 Speaker 1: That's of all you home. We're supposed to be like 1627 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:34,960 Speaker 1: oh C. J. Buck in the Hound. Alright, better stop 1628 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,280 Speaker 1: right now before you all turn this off. Okay, if 1629 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,600 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of roll call, you 1630 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,559 Speaker 1: can send an email to official Team Buck at gmail 1631 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:49,600 Speaker 1: dot com or Facebook dot com slash buck sexon. So 1632 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:55,040 Speaker 1: with that's my friends. Here we have Chuck, who is 1633 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 1: writing to Buck. He says the following, I heard your 1634 01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on Obama as Netflix show, very concise but really 1635 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:09,680 Speaker 1: no surprise. How is that any different than his presidency? Well, Chuck, oh, 1636 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,080 Speaker 1: he's not president anymore. But you're right. He is definitely, 1637 01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:19,160 Speaker 1: or was and still is a media darling. And you 1638 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 1: make a fair point, sir, So thank you very much 1639 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:26,600 Speaker 1: for that. James. Next up in our roll call mailbox, 1640 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 1: he writes, Hi, Buck love the piece on the tariff, 1641 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 1: But why hasn't anyone mentioned that having a tariff in 1642 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:37,320 Speaker 1: place might make companies wanting to buy, sell, and trade 1643 01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 1: with the USA come to the USA and set up 1644 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:45,559 Speaker 1: shop here and provide jobs and participate in our economy. James, 1645 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,560 Speaker 1: very interesting point, right, If there is an advantage to 1646 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:56,799 Speaker 1: producing equipment, material, whatever may be here in the US 1647 01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:02,040 Speaker 1: of A, then couldn't we have reverse the reverse of offshoring. 1648 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:07,080 Speaker 1: Couldn't we have the reverse of sending our jobs overseas 1649 01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,960 Speaker 1: overseas sends their jobs here. At some level, it's at 1650 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 1: least feasible, It's possible. One of the big problems in 1651 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,760 Speaker 1: all this is the wage scale and wage expectations in 1652 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,519 Speaker 1: this country versus some of the other places where a 1653 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 1: lot of production happens. I know I know a bit 1654 01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:26,480 Speaker 1: about this because Ms Molly works for a very large retailer, 1655 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:32,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of the places where different clothing brands 1656 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 1: get their stuff made are all of the world in 1657 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:40,280 Speaker 1: places where the labor is a lot cheaper. So that's 1658 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:41,960 Speaker 1: something else, and we're never going to be able to 1659 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:47,280 Speaker 1: match that list unskilled labor. When you look at the 1660 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:52,240 Speaker 1: different wage rates in countries based on unskilled labor, you know, 1661 01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,360 Speaker 1: that's when I think you get into a problem with 1662 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,120 Speaker 1: expecting we're gonna move a lot of the jobs here 1663 01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:02,400 Speaker 1: because people expect and need to be paid. We're here. Um, okay, 1664 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:07,559 Speaker 1: next up we have, Jim. I was listening to your 1665 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,400 Speaker 1: podcast about name changes and you mentioned Obama's name change. 1666 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 1: I worked for a missionary outfit and talked to a 1667 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 1: man who brought two Muslims to faith in christ. He 1668 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 1: said he gave them, as they requested, new Christian names 1669 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,759 Speaker 1: and changed them before they were baptized into the faith. 1670 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:30,040 Speaker 1: I understand this is common among Muslims who convert. Uh 1671 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,599 Speaker 1: didn't you say Obama changed his name from a Christian 1672 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,960 Speaker 1: name to a Muslim one. Ps. My wife and I 1673 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 1: retired and listen to you often now as I brought 1674 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,679 Speaker 1: her to the team, But instead of the usual saying 1675 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:42,639 Speaker 1: good night, I'll see in the morning after all call, 1676 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,160 Speaker 1: she has started saying good night. Shields High. You're pretty 1677 01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,680 Speaker 1: good with your words. So is there some way you 1678 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: could sort of uninstall what you've done? If not, don't 1679 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,320 Speaker 1: sweat it, Shields High, Jim, thank you for the kind 1680 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:57,280 Speaker 1: note as to Obama. He know he was born. Uh, 1681 01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,880 Speaker 1: he was in fact born based on all the record 1682 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 1: everything else we've seen Barack Obama, but he was went 1683 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 1: by Barry, so he went by that as his preferred 1684 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 1: name for a long time, and during the period when 1685 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 1: he was living in Indonesia he went by the surname 1686 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 1: of I believe the man that his why that his 1687 01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,720 Speaker 1: mom was dating at the time, Satoro or living with 1688 01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,679 Speaker 1: the time, whatever the case may be. So Obama's biography 1689 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,560 Speaker 1: is not top of mind these days. So there you 1690 01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 1: have it. Next up here, where did it go? Oh? Yes, 1691 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 1: this is from Tricia, She writes. I so do appreciate 1692 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:45,840 Speaker 1: your calm discussions. Interesting you should mention, but at the 1693 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,640 Speaker 1: time of Trump's button comment, there was an uprising by 1694 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:54,320 Speaker 1: hungry and thirsty people. M hmm what he said some people. 1695 01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where we're going here. Liberals need a 1696 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 1: dose of self control. Gun control gives us dead children, 1697 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:04,080 Speaker 1: and birth control gives us Okay, what guess the tragedy 1698 01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,400 Speaker 1: and murder depends which side of the womb you're on, Tricia. 1699 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 1: Tricia carried a lot of territory in this email, so 1700 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 1: I kind of gave you the abbreviated version. Thank you, Tricia. 1701 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I should start reading these before I go on there. 1702 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,080 Speaker 1: Although I kind of like the off the cuff nature 1703 01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,640 Speaker 1: of of having to address them as we go. Occasionally 1704 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,400 Speaker 1: I have to bleep out some words in my mind, 1705 01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 1: and I've gotten good enough that I feel like very 1706 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,920 Speaker 1: few people could tell that that's what I'm doing. This 1707 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,360 Speaker 1: is from Mary, he writes. I'm a podcast listener. I 1708 01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,920 Speaker 1: have been listening since mid seen, having seen you on Fox, 1709 01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 1: read you on Twitter, and heard you fill in Once 1710 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,920 Speaker 1: upon a Time for Rush Limbaugh. Your programs are excellent. 1711 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 1: The history podcasts are outstanding. Both are most informative and enlightening. Yes, 1712 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:51,480 Speaker 1: I would even pay to get the Shields High podcasts. 1713 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,160 Speaker 1: One thought about Kim Jong uns interest in meeting President Trump. 1714 01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,439 Speaker 1: I think Kim's buying time and creating a distraction while 1715 01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,280 Speaker 1: they continue to supply Syria. Your mentioned of Massa's recent 1716 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:07,439 Speaker 1: chemical attack on the Damascus Damascus suburbs helps me come 1717 01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 1: to that conclusion. Your thoughts. Have a wonderful weekend and 1718 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,960 Speaker 1: a blessed week Mary. Well, Mary, thank you so much, 1719 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:18,720 Speaker 1: very kind of you. I do think that Kim is 1720 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,120 Speaker 1: most likely trying to buy time, but I'm not sure 1721 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,800 Speaker 1: he will be able to buy time in the way 1722 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,519 Speaker 1: that he is hoping because of the strength of the 1723 01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,479 Speaker 1: sanctions that President Trump has put forth on North Korea. 1724 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: They are in a tougher spot than they have ever 1725 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,400 Speaker 1: been in before economically, or at least since the famine 1726 01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,040 Speaker 1: in the nineties. And I think that this this could 1727 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,719 Speaker 1: be a different outcome. I am hopeful that it could 1728 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:55,439 Speaker 1: be a different outcome. Um next up here? Uh, John, 1729 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,160 Speaker 1: you're right, Hey Buck. I've been listening to your show 1730 01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,680 Speaker 1: for about a year. Oh sorry, this is from the 1731 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,680 Speaker 1: Facebook inbox and if you want to write to us 1732 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 1: there Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton Jonens Hey Buck, 1733 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,200 Speaker 1: I've been listening to your show for about a year. 1734 01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 1: You do a great job. But I had a thought 1735 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,400 Speaker 1: that no one is seeming to consider. What if the 1736 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 1: meeting with Kim Jong own is just a trap, an 1737 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,840 Speaker 1: assassination attempt Like the guy in Star Wars. It's a trap. 1738 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, what he's going on, 1739 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,680 Speaker 1: It's a trap. What if the meeting with Kim Jong 1740 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,040 Speaker 1: un is a trap? An assassination attempts set up by 1741 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,800 Speaker 1: the North Korean leader and maybe Democrats. Clinton accolytes to me, 1742 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem far fetch when it's a guy who 1743 01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,320 Speaker 1: assassinates his own family and people who are willing to 1744 01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,400 Speaker 1: make deals with enemy's just a thought. Great show shields high, John. 1745 01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about our our president in this situation 1746 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:46,640 Speaker 1: and this uh uh possible or likely planned meeting with 1747 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,719 Speaker 1: Kim Jong un. It'll be in a mutually agreed upon place, 1748 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,400 Speaker 1: and the consequences for North Korea of any such effort 1749 01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,240 Speaker 1: like you are describing here would be severe, to say 1750 01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,719 Speaker 1: the least, and it would not get the anywhere except 1751 01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,599 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of an American broadside, and perhaps 1752 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot more than that. So I don't I don't. 1753 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a concern. You need to have 1754 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,720 Speaker 1: secret services, got it uh squared away, and and I 1755 01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,120 Speaker 1: know some secret service folks, and they're very very good 1756 01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,760 Speaker 1: at what they do. And I don't worry about the 1757 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:21,000 Speaker 1: president sitting down with another head of state. Uh. Here 1758 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:25,840 Speaker 1: we go, Karen, rites congratulations on scoring Jeff Sessions. Your 1759 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,800 Speaker 1: hard work is paying off well. Thank you, Karen, and 1760 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,240 Speaker 1: I the folks Nana d o J actually really thought 1761 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,439 Speaker 1: it was a good interview with Mr Sessions. That's always nice. 1762 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 1: You know, the people that work for the boss reach 1763 01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,439 Speaker 1: out to me. They're like, hey, I thought that went 1764 01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,800 Speaker 1: really well. That, you know, the session's interview, so I'm 1765 01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 1: glad we'll have him back at some point. You know, 1766 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:44,640 Speaker 1: I can make some room for the Attorney general here 1767 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 1: on my radio show, you know, time to time, I 1768 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,560 Speaker 1: feel like he's got some important stuff to say. He 1769 01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,559 Speaker 1: is the most uh important law enforcement official in the country. 1770 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,080 Speaker 1: You're the highest law enforcement official in the country. So 1771 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,599 Speaker 1: you know, I make room for for excellent guests as 1772 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,840 Speaker 1: well as guests are at the cabinet level and above, 1773 01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, cabinet level and above, we can fit you 1774 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:07,720 Speaker 1: in here. On the Buck Sexton Show, we try to 1775 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 1: avoid deputy under assistant secretary for who gives a crap, 1776 01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's that's an unwritten 1777 01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 1: policy here on the show. Don next up here, he writes, 1778 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 1: Buck love your show. I usually agree with most of 1779 01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 1: your points, but comparing Netflix's Ozark to Breaking Bad is 1780 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,040 Speaker 1: like calling both Bill ny and Carl Sagan scientists. They 1781 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:32,040 Speaker 1: were both engaging, but one was incredibly written and believably realistic, 1782 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,479 Speaker 1: while the other, though sinfully entertaining, was rather poorly written 1783 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,479 Speaker 1: and it was also ridiculously impossible. I'm sure you can 1784 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,320 Speaker 1: tell which I preferred. As always, I loved hearing your take, 1785 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 1: but you were out to lunch on this one and 1786 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 1: I had to call you and call you out on it. 1787 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,240 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. You're still the best, Don 1788 01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,000 Speaker 1: Don I'm not really going to defend myself on this 1789 01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: one too much because I think or I was trying 1790 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,240 Speaker 1: to say, at least that the genre is similar, so 1791 01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:00,599 Speaker 1: if you liked one, you'll like the other. I wasn't 1792 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:03,240 Speaker 1: trying to say that they are almost equivalent in terms 1793 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,160 Speaker 1: of greatness, right. It's sort of like if I were 1794 01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 1: talking to you and I said, hey, I think you 1795 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,800 Speaker 1: will like uh, porter House if you've never had meat before, 1796 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,759 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think you would like a Porterhouse steak, 1797 01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, if you like by the 1798 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,679 Speaker 1: let's let's take this back for a second, Ribby, which 1799 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 1: is better than Porterhouse. We take this back for a second. 1800 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,840 Speaker 1: And then before that, I said, you hold on, wait, 1801 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,240 Speaker 1: if you like Ribby, you'll also probably like flank steak. 1802 01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're the same. I'm just saying in 1803 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 1: my own way, as being the human Pandora that I am, 1804 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:38,720 Speaker 1: where I try to say, if you like this, you 1805 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,400 Speaker 1: like this, I think they're similar enough that all said, 1806 01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:46,080 Speaker 1: I think your analysis is correct. Ozark is uh not 1807 01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 1: nearly as plausible, not nearly as well written, not as 1808 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,240 Speaker 1: good a show. But you are comparing a Netflix show 1809 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,080 Speaker 1: that's gotten very little pressed to what is arguably one 1810 01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:58,479 Speaker 1: of the greatest, if not the greatest, scripted television dramas 1811 01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 1: of all time. So you know we've gotta keep it, 1812 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 1: keep it here. But a fair a fair point made 1813 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,400 Speaker 1: from Don. I've got a lot of other movie recommendations 1814 01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,640 Speaker 1: in the inbox, but I will have to wait and 1815 01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 1: hold those for next time because I am running out 1816 01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,439 Speaker 1: of time here. Please do if you're listening to this show, uh, 1817 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,519 Speaker 1: spread the podcast around. We love seeing the podcast numbers grow. 1818 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:25,720 Speaker 1: And also do indeed of check out Facebook dot com 1819 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 1: slash box sex and follow me there and we'll be 1820 01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,200 Speaker 1: sharing more information there. So that's going to close out 1821 01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:34,840 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt for today. We will have much more 1822 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,519 Speaker 1: for you tomorrow every day this week, as we always do. 1823 01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,720 Speaker 1: Until then, my friends, no matter what mayhem may find you, 1824 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,040 Speaker 1: shields high,