1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr Joy hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While I hope 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: you love listening to and learning from the podcast, it 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: is not meant to be a substitute for a relationship 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: with a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so 11 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: much for joining me for session to eighty nine of 12 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: the Therapy for a Girls Podcast. We'll get right into 13 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: our conversation after a word from our sponsors. We're a 14 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: weekend to three, and what better way to prepare for 15 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: the months ahead than using the stars and planets in 16 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the sky. That's right. We're continuing our annual January Jump 17 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Store mini series chatting all things astrology with Meca Woods. 18 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Mecca is a New York City based astrologer and author 19 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: of Astrology for Happiness and Success, your Cosmic Coloring Book, 20 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and The Astrology Journal, a celestial guide to recording your 21 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: cosmic journey. In our conversation, we explored the major astrological 22 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: events of and how to use your birth short. Mecca 23 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: set the record straight on mercury retrogrades, and of course, 24 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: she shared her favorite resources for anyone who wants to 25 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: learn more. If something resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, 26 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: please share with us on social media using the hashtags 27 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: tb G in Session or January jump Start, or you 28 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: can join us over in the Sister Circles to talk 29 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: more in depth about the episode. Come on over and 30 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: join us at Community that Therapy for Black Girls dot com. 31 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Here's our conversation. So, thank you so much for joining 32 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: us against today, Mecca. We're honored to have you back. 33 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: It's good to be back. It means that I did 34 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: something good to get an opportunity to come back. Absolutely so. 35 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: We got so much great feedbag based on the episode. 36 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: People have loved hearing more about how astrology and how 37 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: they might use it in their life. So in preparation 38 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: for this brand new year, we thought it was fitting 39 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: to have you back to kind of talk about what 40 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: we might expect for Yeah, yeah, lots of exciting stuff 41 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: coming in some big changes the planets. They're always moving, 42 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: they're always busy. It's never not anything exciting happening. It's 43 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out and make it makes sense. Basically, 44 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: got it. Got it. So for anybody who maybe didn't 45 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: get you on your first visit, here, can you tell 46 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: us a little bit more about what you do in 47 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: your work with astrology? Sure? As a professional astrologer, my 48 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: job is to make astrology accessible to the people. I 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: do coaching by way of astrology, So helping people to 50 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: understand their birth chart, what a birth chart means, and 51 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: using that chart to to delve deeper into who they 52 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: are as a person. I help people to figure out 53 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: like next steps in terms of career, relationships, big life events. 54 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: There was a big portion of the work that I 55 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: was doing, like last year for example, where a lot 56 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: of the clients that I was seeing, we're dealing with 57 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: a big loss like a death in the family, and 58 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: like walking them through the lens of astrology. So a 59 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: lot of my work is really helping people to tap 60 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: into their own personal power to create the life that 61 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: they want to be able to navigate the ups and 62 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: downs that life has to offer. Because even though with astrology, 63 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: there is things that are in our control, but there's 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: also a lot of stuff that's outside of our control. 65 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: And as an astrologer, and my job is to help 66 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: people to be able to understand the difference between the 67 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: two and being able to navigate both. So, my god, 68 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know if there's anything about your work 69 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: that has changed in terms of astrology based on the pandemic. Right, 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure much of your work has been virtual. I'm 71 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: sure that has changed, but like, is there anything that 72 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: has changed about like the way that you work with 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: people or what you're seeing in people's birth towards based 74 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: on the pandemic. It makes me think about last year 75 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: was known as like the Great Resignation, Right. A lot 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: of people were leaving their jobs. A lot of people 77 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: felt that they wanted something more fulfilling. I think the 78 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: pandemic really brought up a lot of things to the 79 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: surface for a lot of people in terms of like 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: what's important, what matters in my life, and where do 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I want to go from here? And I found that 82 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the women that were coming to me 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: definitely wanted to know things about their career. A lot 84 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: of women were burned out. They wanted to be more 85 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: fulfilled in what they were doing, and I think that 86 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: spoke to the sign of the times in the context 87 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: of like what was taking place on a collective scale. 88 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: People weren't interested in just working and just going through 89 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: the motions and I guess, you know, kind of sleep 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: walking through their life. They wanted more fulfillment in it. 91 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: So that definitely was something that showed up a lot. 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, you know, I also spoke to a 93 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: lot of clients who were dealing with some sort of 94 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: loss in their life and in working through that grieving process. 95 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: That was something that came up often. And I think 96 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: the other piece of it was the anxiety, you know, 97 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: having to figure out, like what's going on in the world, 98 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: When is this going to be over? How do I 99 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: navigate a world that seems to be on the brink 100 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: of collapse essentially, right, Like how do we survive? How 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: do we get through this? So that was definitely a 102 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: lot of what I was covering in session with clients, 103 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: And of course it was very busy. It's been a 104 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: very busy couple of years because people want answers and 105 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: they want to know what's next. Yeah, Yeah, I think 106 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: it would make sense, right when people are so anxious, 107 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: they're kind of looking for answers from somewhere, right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. 108 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: So again, just as a bit of a refresher, can 109 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: you see a little bit more about what our birth 110 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: chart is? Yeah, So, birth chart is basically like a 111 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: cosmic map. The chart is based on the day, the month, 112 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: the year, the time, and the location of your birth. 113 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: And so when we plug in news coordinates, basically what 114 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: we get is a birth chart, and it has to 115 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: do where the planets are aligned in the sky at 116 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: the time that you were born. So based on that 117 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: planetary alignment, we can look at a person's life and 118 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: see what that life might be looking like. We can 119 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: go back in time and give some contact to certain 120 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: events or different things that may have been going on 121 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: in a person's life. We can look towards the future 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: and get some information on what person might expect or 123 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: what they might be looking out for or opportunities that 124 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: they can take advantage of. Relationship stuff, we can talk 125 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: about relationship dynamics, we can talk about family dynamics, or 126 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: basically what a person's purposes in terms of what they 127 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: are trying to achieve and accomplish in this life. So 128 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things that we can look 129 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: at within a birth chart, and that birth chart is 130 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: basically giving us the cosmic map to who we are. 131 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Got it? And I think the first time you were 132 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: here we talked about like the big three placements. My 133 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: understanding is that they're actually six. So can you explain 134 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: to us what the six big placements are? Okay? So 135 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: that one I was thinking about because typically we talked 136 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: about the big three, which is the sign sign, your 137 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: moon sign, and your rising sign in your birth chart. 138 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Your placements go all the way from the Sun all 139 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: the way down to Pluto. In astrology, we still consider 140 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Pluto to be a planet, so I know, I know 141 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the science world has something else to say about that, 142 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: but we still utilize Pluto in astrology. The big six 143 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: would probably be the Sun moon rising, your mercury sign, 144 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: which has to do with how you communicate and how 145 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you think about things, your Venus sign, which has to 146 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: do with how you relate to people and your values. 147 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: And then your Mars sign, which has to do with 148 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: how you deal with conflict and how you might go 149 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: after something in terms of like ambition or passion or 150 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: how you might typically get things done. Okay, So all 151 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,239 Speaker 1: those sound like collectively would be very insightful. Yes, yes, absolutely. 152 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: When we talk about those placements in astrology, these are 153 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: what we would consider your personal planets, right, So personal 154 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: planets have to do with like how those placements or 155 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: that astrology directly affects you. It's more about you and 156 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: your specific life. The outer planets, which would include Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, 157 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: those planets have more to do with like a generational experience. 158 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: So typically you're going to share the same Neptune sign 159 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: or Pluto sign or even Saturn sign with people who 160 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: were born around the same time as you, and that 161 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: has more to do with like generational stuff like for example, 162 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: like the baby boomers, gen Z, gen X, the millennials, 163 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. Got it? Okay? Okay, so 164 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: you already mentioned that you know, there's always something going 165 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: on with the planet. So what kinds of things should 166 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: we kind of just be mindful about. Yeah, no, I 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: think that's a great question, and I definitely have to 168 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: tell you that it's something that I'm still pondering and 169 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: thinking about in terms of what things look like. But 170 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: so so far without getting too in the weeds about it, 171 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the planetary shifts that's happening next year is 172 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: that planet Pluto is moving from Capricorn into the sign 173 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: of Aquarius. Right now, Pluto is in astrology, the planet 174 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: that's associated with power and rebirth. So since roughly about 175 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, we've had Pluto station in the 176 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: sign of Capricorn, and that is what we saw in 177 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: terms of like the banks collapsing back in two thousand eight. 178 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Up until this point, we've seen a lot of greed 179 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: and corruption and and a lot of like corporations and 180 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: government just running unchecked, you know, like a lot of 181 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: power kind of running unchecked. Right, And and that's the 182 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: dark side or the shadowy side of Pluto. Pluto's job 183 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: is to show us things that need to be changed. 184 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: It forces us to really take a hard look at 185 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: the things that are going on so that we can 186 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: actually do something about it. Right, And a lot of 187 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: times the things that Pluto shows us are typically things 188 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: that aren't so nice. And so now coming up in 189 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: March of Pluto will enter Aquarius and stay there for 190 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: a few months because it will kind of go back 191 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: and forth between Aquarius and Capricorn next year, but it 192 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: will officially make it stay in Aquarius in January. But 193 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: what this basically means is that Aquarius is a sign 194 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: that is very group oriented, very collective oriented. So if 195 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: we talk about Pluto and Aquarius, there is a very 196 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: much like a power to the people sentiment that comes 197 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: with that particular placement. But here's the thing about that, right, 198 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: I think when we talk about astrology, I always try 199 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: to stress to people that there's two ways that we 200 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: can use the energy. We can do it in a 201 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: way we we are expressing the positive side, where we 202 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: can go down into the negative side. Right, there's a 203 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: low ribry sational side, if you will. But when we 204 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: talked about this Pluto and Aquarious story, like, I think 205 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: what we will see is like more people organizing and 206 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: pushing back against the corruption and the injustice and the 207 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: corporate greed that we've been seeing over the past couple 208 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: of years that I've just been getting worse and worse 209 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: as the days go on. I think that we're going 210 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: to see more people banding together, whether it be trying 211 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: to form unions, you know, in their place of work, 212 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: or thinking about how they can revamp the legal system, 213 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: like people doing work in their own individual way, banding 214 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: together to create and foster change, which is very Pluto 215 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: and aquarious. However, right the downside of that is that 216 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: I do think that we're going to have to still 217 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that extremism that we've been seeing 218 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, because one of the 219 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: things about aquarious is that it can be group oriented 220 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: in the sense of, yeah, let's work together, let's be 221 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: a community, let's make things happen, but it can also 222 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: foster the sentiment of let's tear it all down, let's 223 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: burn it all down, that sort of extremists, you know, 224 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: or fundamentalist sort of mentality. And so we've already gotten 225 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: a taste of that already over this past year, especially 226 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: with some of the domestic terrorism that's been taking place. 227 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: So I do think that's something that we're going to 228 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: have to continue to watch and be mindful of. But 229 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: I do think that if we are able to continue 230 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: doing the work that Pluto is calling us to do, 231 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: which is calling out the corruption and the injustice and 232 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: the cruelty and all of the things that we've been seeing, 233 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: I think it will empower us to actually be able 234 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: to make some deep and profound and lasting changes. M M. 235 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, Mecca, as I'm listening to you talk, I'm 236 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: wondering what was in the charts in twenty when we 237 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: saw all of the uprides, you know, after George Floyd's murder, Like, 238 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: it feels like that was a huge time for like 239 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: movement work and like banding together and that kind of thing. 240 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Are there some things that feel similar which oret wise 241 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: about three that we saw when we were in twenty 242 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: that was a time when we had the big Saturn 243 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Pluto conjunction, And historically when Saturn and Pluto get together, 244 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: it typically involves like a crumbling of sorts of society 245 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: as we know it. Like that's typically like the theme 246 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: behind it, and so that's essentially what's been happening. So 247 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: now you know that we're carrying that energy over into 248 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: this new year into three. It's going to be a 249 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: continuation of working with those themes and looking at ways 250 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: that we can actually start changing things and also rebuilding 251 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: right from things that we've lost because we've because that's 252 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the other thing too, is that we are still at 253 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: the collectively greeting a lot of the loss you know, 254 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: and it doesn't necessarily have to be the death. I mean, 255 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: although there was a lot of it that we faced 256 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, but people losing jobs, 257 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: people losing a way of life that they've known before. 258 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of grief that we still need 259 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: to address, and which is why, Like, I'm one of 260 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the astrologers, and people sometimes get upset with me about this, 261 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: but I really don't like the idea of the spiritual 262 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: by tassing of like love and life. Everything's gonna be great, 263 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: It's a new year, everything's gonna be so wonderful, and 264 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: it's like, no, We're like, we still have a lot 265 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: of work, a lot of stuff that we need to 266 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: fix here. So I think it's important to be hopeful, 267 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: to maintain and hold onto the hope that things can 268 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: change and continue to doing the work and showing up 269 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the way in which we can or being called to 270 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: show up. Was definitely the breaking point, right And so 271 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: now it's going to be about like the aftermath of 272 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: at for sure. M hmmmm. Any other themes that you 273 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: are thinking about, are you know, considering? For for three, 274 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: we also have Saturn moving into Pisces, so Saturday is 275 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: the planet that is about responsibility and hard work and 276 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: sense of duty. Wherever Saturn transits, it's a place where 277 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: the foundations of that area of life is being tested 278 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: in some way to make sure that it's strong, and 279 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: if it's not, then we need to tear it down 280 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: or rebuild it or reinforce it in some way. Pisces 281 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: is a sign that is associated with compassion, spirituality, and 282 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Saturn going into Pisces I think could be a time 283 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: when people could actually make some great strides in terms 284 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: of healing, actually like starting to heal from some of 285 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: this loss and the grief and things like that that 286 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: we've been feeling. But again, there's no magic pill or 287 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: magic wand if you will with this right, you know, 288 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Saturn forces us to do the work necessary. So I 289 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: think as we think about like what do we want 290 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: to accomplish, what kind of world do we envision, you know, 291 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: what we would like to see change, the themes coming 292 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: up for the new year will actually pave the way 293 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: in terms of giving us a direction in terms of 294 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: like where we can go, and then it will be 295 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: up to us to actually follow through and take those steps. 296 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: M So kind of moving from the collective to the 297 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: more personal. So where do we look in our charts 298 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: to come up with maybe our own personal themes or 299 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: intentions or goal for the year. Oh, there's a lot 300 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: of it. There's so many different places that you can 301 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: can look in the chart. I have a book it's 302 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: called the Astrology Journal, And in the Journal it's you know, 303 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: it's a daily journal that you can use to basically 304 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: chart and kind of map out your birth, charting what's 305 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: happening day to day, month and month, yor year. In it, 306 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: I give a bit of an astrology one or one 307 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: in terms of telling people like what to look for, 308 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: because like, even though there's a lot of different things 309 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: happening in the sky where pertaining to astrology, everybody is 310 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: going to be affected differently. So for example, if you 311 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: know you're going through your Sadden return, you may not 312 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: necessarily be that interested in whether mercury retrograde is happening 313 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: because that Saturn is bringing more of your attention to 314 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: a certain area of your life. Or if you're looking 315 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: for love, but we're in a period of time where 316 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Venus is retrograde, finding love might be a bit tricky. 317 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: So I think it depends on first and foremost like 318 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: what a person is most interested in, and then you 319 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: can look at your chart like there's different parts of 320 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: the chart that have to do with different areas of 321 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: your life. So, for example, if you're thinking about career, 322 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: you might be looking at your tenth house, which is 323 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: a part of the chart that has to do with 324 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: your accomplishments, the kind of career that you have, what 325 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: you might want to achieve. If you're thinking about, let's say, 326 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: starting a family, maybe you're going to be looking at 327 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: your fourth house or your fifth house. The fourth house 328 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: more about like putting down roots. Fifth house usually marks 329 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: the arrival of like a baby or like a pregnancy 330 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: of some sort. So these might be things that people 331 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: might want to look at. If you're thinking about getting married, 332 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: that might be the seventh house that they're looking at 333 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: and talking to an astrologer about when's the best time 334 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: for me to get married and picking a date for that. 335 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: So I think there's something in the chart for everyone, 336 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: and so I think it just has to do with 337 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: figuring out, like what you're most focused on and then 338 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: looking for that in the chart. And like I said 339 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: in my book, the astrologies are not kind of go 340 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: step by step and kind of teach people like how 341 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: to do that. M hm. So you have tons of 342 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: great resources that we definitely will be sure to include 343 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: all of the book because I think they give people 344 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: a great place to start. But can you say a 345 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: little bit about the different of maybe working through some 346 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: of this in your journal versus like having an actual 347 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: session with you, Like what would be different. I think 348 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: what would be different is that it would be something 349 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: it would be definitely be more self driven, so it 350 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: it won't be as in depth in terms of like 351 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: working with me or like working with like an astrologer, right, 352 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: because that would definitely be a lot more in detail. 353 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: But what it could do is give you an idea 354 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: of like how the transits are working in real time, 355 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: because sometimes what I find is that when someone is 356 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: just learning about astrology or just learning about their birth chart, 357 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: it could be hard to kind of kind of make 358 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it makes sense because it's like I hear it's sad 359 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: and in Jupiter and this and that, and it's not 360 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: until you're able to actually see like how those things 361 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: are working in real time in your life. And I 362 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: think when we talk about like the journaling aspect, I 363 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: like that because it allows you to kind of sit 364 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: with it and absorb the information and like practice with 365 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: it a bit more. And there's also like, because astrology 366 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: is such a huge field, like depending on a person's 367 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: interest level, they can actually continue to take that a 368 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: step further if they wanted to, or they can just 369 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: keep it light. To me, I think the journal is 370 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: like awake too, almost like all a cart if you will, 371 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: astrology all a cart, which I think could be sometimes 372 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: a less intimidating way to to learn about the chart 373 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: or learn about yourself. And in the context of astrology, 374 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: got it. Got it? So I often hear people say 375 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: things like, oh, you know, now it's not a good 376 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: time to like not a contract, or now it's not 377 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: a time to buy electronics or something like that. So 378 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: what are people referring to when they talk about that, 379 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: And like how strictly should we be like using or 380 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: paying attention to a verb toor it when we talk 381 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: about like transits like a mercury retrograde. Mercury retrogrades happen 382 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: about three or four times a year, so it sometimes 383 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: can be difficult not to do a thing if like 384 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: there's a pressing matter that you have to take care 385 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: of right. So like for example, like with Mercury retrograde, 386 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: it's like it's just really about thinking or looking before 387 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: you leap, or like thinking before you speak, because Mercury 388 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: is the planet that has to do with how we 389 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: communicate and how we think. Mercury's information and details. So 390 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: if Mercury is retrograde, it's not that you have to 391 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: like run and coward and stay in your house for 392 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: those three weeks that Mercury is retro It's just about 393 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: being maybe a little bit more careful or moving a 394 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: little bit slower. And that's typically what happens when we 395 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: talk about retrograde planets in general. When Venus is retrograde 396 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: is about reevaluating our relationships and our values. When Mars 397 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: is retrograde as it is right now, it's about slowing 398 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: down and reassessing like our plan ends or our actions 399 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: or even sometimes our relationship to things like anger, for example, 400 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: because Mars has a lot to do with those themes 401 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: in our life. So marvela thumb is that when you're 402 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: dealing with transits and it sounds scary not to panic, 403 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean definitely, you know, sometimes having some of these 404 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: like more difficult transits can coincide with more difficult experiences 405 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: in your life. But ultimately, what the planets are trying 406 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: to do is to show you, like where you might 407 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: need to slow down or come up with a little 408 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: bit of a game plan in order to be able 409 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: to navigate forward. So it's I don't think it's something 410 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: that needs to be like a sense of gloom and 411 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: doom or panic. More from my conversation with Mecca after 412 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: the break. So you know, when we told the TVG 413 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: community that you were coming back, there was again so 414 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: much excitement and so we got some questions that some 415 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: of the our listeners in in and we ask them 416 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: like for their sign So we've collected their sun moon 417 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: and rising signs and some of the concerns that they 418 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: have fore and Withold loves to share a few of 419 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: these scenarios with you so that you might be able 420 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: to give them some places to start or things to 421 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: consider for absolutely. Okay, all right, So here's the first one. 422 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: My son is in cancer, my moon is in Leo, 423 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: my rising is in Pisces. I'm twenty nine years old, 424 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: and I'm in over twenty dollars of debt, some credit 425 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: cards and some debt to the I R s. I'm 426 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: feeling overwhelmed and trying to ground myself to feel confident 427 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: in my ability to pay off what I owe and 428 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: start saving going into my new thirties decades. Yeah, I 429 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: can definitely feel for this person. Being in a debt 430 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: is no fun. It can be quite scary. And I 431 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: think when we talk about someone you know, being a 432 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: cancer or being a Pisces rising, one of the things 433 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: that this year I think it's going to help her 434 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: to be more mindful of is just making sure of, 435 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: like not sweeping things under the rug. Pisces is a 436 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: sign that sometimes when confronted with conflict, can kind of 437 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: retreat and be like, I'll put it off, I'll deal 438 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: with this later. Cancer can be quite a tough sign. 439 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: But cancer can sometimes also be like, you know, I'll 440 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: just retreat into my shell and worry about the world later. 441 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: I think when we talk about what's coming up, one 442 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: big thing being twenty nine, you're in your Saturn turn, 443 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: so this is your first Saturn return. Is not uncommon 444 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: to feel like I don't know what I'm doing. I 445 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I don't know how to life 446 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: or adult right now. But Saturnty here to help you 447 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: with that. You know, Saturn's job is to teach you 448 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: how to be disciplined, how to be patient, how to 449 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: take care of responsibilities that you need to take care of, 450 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: because essentially what you'll be doing is taking care of yourself. 451 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: So that's just something to keep in mind of when 452 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: you're going through a Sadden return. What you don't want 453 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: to do is you don't want to put off your 454 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: responsibilities because it'll be all the more harder to try 455 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: to tackle it later. Another thing that you don't want 456 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: to do when you're going through a Saturn return is 457 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: to be too critical or hard on yourself if you 458 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: feel like you're not at the level that you want 459 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: to be or that you should be. Saturday is all 460 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: about taking your time, arriving to a destination when you've 461 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: taken the time to do the work, and then you 462 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: finally get to a place where you're like, all right, 463 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: I feel ready to move forward or I feel ready 464 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: to get to this space. And so when we talk 465 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: about the money situation, you're going to be having eclipses 466 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: going through your money zone next year when we get 467 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: to the eclipses in areas in Libra, which will be 468 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: taking place in April and October. So those eclipses going 469 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: through your financial zones are definitely going to help you 470 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: with cleaning up your financial picture. And like I said, 471 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: the biggest and the best way to do that because 472 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: Saturday and will be helping you, is taking your time. 473 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Don't burden yourself with unrealistic deadlines or unrealistic goals when 474 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: it comes to this, because it will only set you 475 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: up for disappointment. So what you want to do is 476 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: pace yourself, even if you could like take it small 477 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: baby steps, that's totally fine. Any other thing too, like 478 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: if you haven't worked with a financial advisor, this might 479 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: be a good time to do that. Mm hmmmmmm. So 480 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the twenty nine birthday is a big year. 481 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: This is the first set I returned? Is that what 482 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: you said? Absolutely? Yeah? Can you say more about like 483 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: these milestone birthdays, like, what are some other ones that 484 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: people should kind of be mindful of? Yeah, so you're 485 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: sad and return typically happens every thirty years, right, So 486 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you have one around thirty, you have another one around 487 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: fifty eight, fifty nine, and then you have another one 488 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: I say, like around was eight seven eight somewhere in there. 489 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: So each stage of Saturn has a stage of adult 490 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: ng that comes with it. And when you're going through 491 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: your first one, that's usually what we would like assign 492 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: the quarter life crisis to. You know, like who am I? 493 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: Where am I going? I have all these dreams and 494 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: things that I want to accomplish, but I don't know 495 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: if I'm on the right path. Like Saturn's job is 496 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: to help you to basically like get it together, Like 497 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: that's typically what Saturn does. And then you know, around 498 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: fifty fifty nine you're having your second Saturn return. That's 499 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: usually a stage in a person's life where they're kind 500 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: of like been there, done net, and now they're ready 501 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: for a different chapter or a new chapter of their lives, 502 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: being older and wiser, right, and then coming into like 503 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: that third one, that's usually a time I noticed like 504 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: when a lot of like elders are kind of revered 505 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: in their community for the work that they've done or 506 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: what they've given to their community. And it can also 507 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: be a bit of a rebirth to some degree to 508 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: and where you might have elders who might take younger 509 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: people under their wing to kind of pass the torch, 510 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, like that's kind of like how that goes. 511 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: And then there's also Uranish transit that happens like in 512 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: your mid forties, planet Uranus, which is the planet of change, 513 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: visits and that's usually kind of equated to what we 514 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: would call a midlife crisis, and that's because you spent 515 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: almost a half century on Earth and now you're like, 516 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I feel like I'm ready 517 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: for something new or different in my life. Right, but 518 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: this is kind of more on the extreme side, like 519 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: if they aren't using or listening to that Uranus transit, 520 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: then they may make more like reckless or like impulsive 521 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: choices that kind of has ripples into, you know, to 522 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: other areas of their life. Right. So yeah, so there's 523 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: a lot of milestone kind of birthdays, but definitely Saturn 524 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest ones for sure, God, and 525 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: thank you for that. Okay, So here's a second scenario. 526 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: My son is in gem and I my moon is 527 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: in Virgo, my rising is in Libra. I'm fifty eight 528 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: years old, and in two I lost my younger brother 529 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: in a motorcycle accident. I'm devastated by the loss and 530 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the strength to move on while 531 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: still caring for my mother and managing my business, all 532 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: while trying to not become angry at the entire world. 533 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, First and foremost, I'm so sorry to hear 534 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: of your loss, and I definitely wish you much strength 535 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: during this time. When I was talking about Saturn, being 536 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: that you're fifty eight years old, now this is definitely 537 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: the second Saturn return that you're going through. And the 538 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: thing is, I guess the reality of the situation is 539 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: that when you are dealing with Saturn, it's hard. You know, 540 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: it's not an easy transit or planet to experience. The 541 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: thing is, though, is that, like I said, when we 542 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: talk about Saturn, Saturn's job is to test the foundation 543 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: of the area of life that it's covering for us. 544 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: And so when we get to Saturday, is going to 545 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: be entering your six house, which is the zone in 546 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: the chart that has to do with like your everyday life, 547 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: your work, your responsibilities, and with Saturn entering that part 548 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: of your chart. So you know, you're liborizing yours in Virgo. 549 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Whenever I see that mix between Virgo and Libra, I 550 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: always think about someone who often puts others before themselves 551 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, Libra is a sign that often 552 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: knows how to kind of whole space or make space 553 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: for other people, and Virgo loves to be able to 554 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: like fix and help and be of service in some way, 555 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to people that they care about. However, 556 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: the downside to that is sometimes with the libor rizing, 557 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: you have to be very mindful of balance reciprocity. If 558 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: you're giving something, you know you have to be receiving 559 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: something as well. When we talk about that mix you're 560 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: sometimes it can lend itself to people pleasing and what 561 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: happens is you can then find yourself in a situation, 562 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: especially like when you know the chips are down, you're 563 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: going through a really difficult time where people aren't showing 564 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: you that same amount of support that you so readily give. 565 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: Right So, Saturn being in Pisces next year and going 566 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: into like I said, your works on your day to 567 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: day daily routine, and that's also going to be a 568 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: zone that has to do with your health and wellness too. 569 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Saturn is going to show you the importance of delegating, 570 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: being able to say no without feeling guilt behind it 571 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: and also taking care and prioritizing your health and well being, 572 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: because it's going to be really difficult to show up 573 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: for someone if you're not able to take care of yourself. 574 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: So therapy might be a part of that story. Getting 575 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: enough rest, self care, like learning how to prioritize and 576 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: put yourself first definitely is going to be a part 577 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: of that. Especially too because those clipses that I mentioned 578 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: in Areas and Libra also going to be landing in 579 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: your chart and with the area's eclipses in particular, they're 580 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: going to be teaching you how to like get support 581 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: and ask for the help that you need so you 582 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: don't have to go through this along. Thank you for 583 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: the Mecca. And then our final scenario. So my son 584 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: is in Aries, my moon in Sagittarius, my rising is 585 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: in Capricorn. I'm thirty five years old, I'm single and 586 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. I'm looking for love, but 587 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: all I'm finding is situation ships. Yeah, I feel like 588 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: I definitely can relate to that one. Definitely have been there, 589 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: done that for sure. So when we talk about the 590 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: age that you are, so in addition to thinking about 591 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: like where the planets are and how they are landing 592 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: in your chart, you know, on any given day, month, year. 593 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: As astrologers, there's lots of different techniques and tools that 594 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: we use to kind of figure out, you know, what's 595 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: coming up next. One of the things that we use 596 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: is something called perfections, and this is actually something that 597 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: you can google and find out more about perfections or 598 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: perfection years. And basically what that means is that given 599 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: how old you are, there's one era of your chart 600 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: that becomes the backdrop or gives a lot of context 601 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: to what's happening for you for that particular year, and 602 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: then you move around the chart almost like in a circle. 603 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: And so when you turn thirty five, basically what happens 604 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: is you find yourself in a tall house a year, 605 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: which is usually a time when you're doing a lot 606 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: of soul searching. And I would say like it's not 607 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: a great time for dating, because it's a time for 608 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: retreating from the world and pulling back with drawing and 609 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: allowing yourself to rest essentially, and it's a time when 610 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: you can renew or either create like a spiritual practice 611 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: for yourself. It's a time for kind of going within 612 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: and really getting in touch with those kinds of things, 613 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: So while you're there, I would say, you know, this 614 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: might be a good time to think about, you know, 615 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: what kind of partner you want and who you want 616 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: to call in. I will say that eclipses bring change. 617 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: I'll talk about the eclipses a lot, but they tend 618 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: to trigger big changes. And with the eclipse landing activating 619 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: your son, I think part of the story is going 620 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: to be about the ways in which you show up 621 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: and put yourself out there. Capricorn risings often have a 622 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: lot of difficulty with being vulnerable with people. And while 623 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: you can, you know you're an areaes, you have that 624 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: Sage moon, you'r Capricorn rising. You know you're very independent, 625 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: very strong, but sometimes that can give off the energy 626 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: of like I don't want anybody to get too close, 627 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want anybody to really see who 628 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I am. And even if you may not be actively 629 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: saying it, you know, it can be a vibe that 630 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: people are kind of picking up on, which then invites 631 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: in situation ships because there's a certain amount of unavailability 632 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: that you're giving off. Right, So these eclipses that are 633 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: coming in next year are definitely going to help you 634 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: with switching up your approach to relationship. I think part 635 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: of it is also going to be learning how to 636 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: drop your guard and getting comfortable with being vulnerable. And 637 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: that vulnerability piece, I think is going to come through 638 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: by way of communication because you know, I've talked about 639 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: a lot about Saturn. Saturn for you, since you're caporizing 640 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Saturn for you is going to be entering your communication zone. 641 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: So it's going to be helping you to talk about 642 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: stuff and open up and be able to be a 643 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: bit more vulnerable so that way you can foster true 644 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: intimacy and true relationship with someone that could actually be 645 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: a good partner for you. So that definitely, I think 646 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: is something for you to look forward to. It does 647 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: mean work because again, you know, we're dealing with Saturn 648 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: Capricorn rise, and it's like, you know, like feel you 649 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: can be very uncomfortable to have to make that change, 650 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: but you're not destined to be alone. It's just that 651 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: your approach to relationship needs to change. M Thank you. 652 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you sharing that about your thirty fifth year, 653 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: because it definitely feels like that is often a year 654 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, especially women, where 655 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: you're kind of like evaluating, like, Okay, what's happening in 656 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: my life? You know, what am I moving forward to? 657 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: And so you're saying that really is a year for 658 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: not maybe not dating, but a real year for reflection 659 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: and kind of figuring out what's next. Yeah. Yeah, it's 660 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: weird because it's kind of like the halfway mark, right, 661 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: like you're officially in your thirties, but forty is kind 662 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: of looming, right, and it is a period of time 663 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: where you're kind of like, all right, like where do 664 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: I go from here? And yes, it can be disconcerting, 665 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: especially for uh, those of us who are used to 666 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: being very like motivated and driven and just go and 667 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: making things happen. Twalth House years typically feel almost like 668 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: you're being put on a time out. But then the 669 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: time out is also kind of like alright, well what 670 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: do I do with this time out? So so yeah, 671 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: if anyone out there who's going through you know, who's 672 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: thirty five and feeling this way, it's not you. It's 673 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: it's the timing of where you are right now. Yeah, 674 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: got it. More from my conversation with Mecca after the break. Okay, 675 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: so you use a lot of terminology that I want 676 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: to make sure, the community really you know, kind of 677 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: gets what you're saying. So you're you're saying things about 678 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: like houses and placements, can you give us some definitions 679 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: for what that means? So what what does it mean 680 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: for you to you like your astrological placement? Right, So 681 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: your placements basically mean like your planets and where their 682 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: positions in your chart, so you know, like if you 683 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: have you know, like where your moon is, or where 684 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: your venus is, or where your mercury is, like where 685 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: those where their position, like the sign that they're in 686 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: in your chart and the part of the sky that 687 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 1: they were in at the time of your birth. So 688 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: when we talk about houses, for example, the houses have 689 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: to do with it's just how we divide the sky up. 690 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: And when we talk about that in terms of someone's 691 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: birth chart, those pieces or those those components, if you will, 692 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: those houses will highlight the different areas of a person's life. 693 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: So if you know someone is you know, dealing with 694 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: like let's say a health scare, that might be a 695 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: six house thing. Or if they're you know, welcoming, or 696 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: if they just purchased a house, for example, that might 697 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: be a fourth house thing. So if we talk about houses. 698 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: The houses just basically demarcate the different areas of a 699 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: person's life, but the placements have to do with like 700 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: where the actual planets are in the chart? Got it, okay? 701 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: And how many houses are there? Twelve? There's still houses, okay? 702 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: And can you tell us which what each one is 703 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: connected to in terms of like are the area of 704 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: our life? Sure? So? The first house is your essentially 705 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: your rising sign or your ascendant. The first house has 706 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: to do with your image of yourself and the image 707 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: that you sort of project out outwardly. Right. The second 708 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: house is about your your income, money that you earn. 709 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: It can also be your relationship to things like pleasure, 710 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: your values, things that bring you pleasure. That will be 711 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: second house. Third house is communication and also to some 712 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: degree like learning, you know, writing, those language, those kinds 713 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: of things. Fourth house is your home, your physical home, 714 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: how you were raised, where you come from, your family, 715 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: your roots, your history. Fifth house is the house of 716 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: romance and sex and fun. That's one of one of 717 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: the houses I like and enjoy. Um. The sixth house 718 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: is you know, your day to day routine, your work life. 719 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: It's your responsibilities, you're you're including your health and your wellness. 720 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: Seventh houses partnerships, specifically like committed partnerships like a like 721 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: a business partner or a marriage or committed partner. Eight 722 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: house has to do with your money that you might owe, 723 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: so like taxes, debts, or even money that you might 724 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: get through a partner or a partnership. The eight house 725 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: also has sometimes has to do with like emotional crisis, 726 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: especially where it pertains to like loss some sort. The 727 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: night house is growth and expansion. Opportunity is typically associated 728 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: with traveling, our philosophy on life. Tenth house typically is 729 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: associated with your career and your reputation. Eleventh house is 730 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: your friendships, your communities, but it also can highlight your 731 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: dreams for the future, and then your twelve house. Last, 732 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: but not least is the zone in the chart that 733 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: has to do with rest, retreat and kind of being 734 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: away from it all. Nice. Okay, that sounds like a 735 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: lot of great information. So guessing as a part of 736 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: what you do with the sessions you have with your 737 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: clients is that you're kind of going through these houses 738 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: and which ones will maybe be most prominent for the year. Right. Typically, 739 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: Like what I noticed is that like when someone is 740 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: coming to me for reading their birth chart is going 741 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: to be highlighting like what they need to be focusing 742 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: on for that particularly year or that that time. I 743 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: usually find that in session, I'm never really telling people 744 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: anything that they don't know, unless like they're just really 745 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: like brands making new to astrology, but more so like 746 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: confirming or like validating something that they've already been feeling, 747 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: because chances are it's in the air. If it's in 748 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: the ether, you know you're feeling it's showing up in 749 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: the chart. In my job is to be like, yeah, 750 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: that's right, you're feeling this, all right, this is what 751 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna do from here. You know. That's typically how 752 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: that goes. Got it? Got it? You've talked before on 753 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: the podcast, but also today you talked about like this 754 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: mercury retrograde, which people talk about quite a lot. I 755 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: think that is the one that most people are attentive to. 756 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: Are there any themes for the mercury retrogrades we can 757 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: expect for the mercury retrograde is coming up in That's 758 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: a good question. I'm not even sure if I thought 759 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: about that. The reason why is because I guess I've 760 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: been focusing a lot more on some of the bigger 761 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: like collective stuff, because the thing is is that it's 762 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: not that Mercury retrograde is important, it's just that what 763 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: I find that, like, regardless of what Mercury is doing 764 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: in the sky, it all boils down to like communicating, 765 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: making sure you're on the same page with everyone, especially 766 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: like I think over the past couple of years there's 767 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: been so much trouble with misinformation with mercury retrogrades, Like 768 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: it really is about like fact checking and verifying information. 769 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: I think one of of things that's going to be 770 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: coming up in three is, like we've already been kind 771 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: of seeing this year, but the issue of like online privacy, 772 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: and I think that when Mercury goes to retrograde, I 773 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: always one of the things I tell people is like, 774 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, change your pass words, double check that everything 775 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: is like kind of secure, because that can be a 776 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: time when people get a little spicy and put their 777 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: hands and things that they shouldn't be, you know what 778 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean. So, yeah, these are probably going to be 779 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: some of the things that you might want to think 780 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: about over the next year in terms of verifying information, 781 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: fact checking, making sure you're on the same page with everyone. 782 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: I told myself, I wanted to bring this up while 783 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: I was talking to you because this is something that 784 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: I was having a lot of trouble, and not only me, 785 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: a lot of terra readers, diviners, astrologers, we were all 786 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 1: collectively going through this over this past year. But there 787 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of scammers going on Instagram and social media, 788 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: copying our pages and then following people and deeming people 789 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: pretending to be us and being like, oh, do you 790 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: want to reading, and then like scamming people out of 791 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: their money. So I've been telling people like, please if 792 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: you don't, I've had to break my page private just 793 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: to keep that from happening, because you know, Instagram has 794 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: not been helpful and trying to like fix that situation. 795 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's another thing, Like with all the things 796 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: that are going on right now, it could be really 797 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: easy to find yourself in a space where you're like, 798 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: I want to reading, I need a reading. I need 799 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: to know what's going on. But please do your due diligence. 800 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: You're not coming to me, or if there's someone else 801 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, another aschologer that you're interested in or terror 802 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: reader or diviner, please do your due diligence. In figuring 803 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: out if that person is the real deal, if they're ethical, 804 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: if there's someone that you actually want to work with. 805 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: Please don't send anyone money through d M online without 806 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: making sure that they are who they say they are, 807 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: because this thing is a really big issue and I 808 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: really hate to see people getting harmed and take an 809 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: advantage of because someone is like, Okay, you know, I'm 810 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 1: just gonna jump on this trend and take advantage of folks. 811 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: So that definitely is something to keep an eye on 812 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: as we go into the new year, for sure. Yeah, 813 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: and my understanding Mecca is that people who are doing 814 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: this work ethically will typically not reach out to people 815 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: to say, hey, do you want a reading? Right? It 816 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: usually is okay, and the person to initiate the reading 817 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: or whatever it's going to be right, absolutely, absolutely, Typically 818 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: those of us who are doing this work, we already 819 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: have a very full roster, which makes it almost impossible 820 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: for us to like chase people down and be like, hey, 821 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, do you want to reading? But the other 822 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: thing too is that like the work that we do 823 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: as diviners as readers is very it's intimate, right, And 824 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: when you're doing work that is this intimate you can't 825 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: really like just cast a wide net and try to 826 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: reach anyone or talk to anyone like. There has to 827 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: be boundaries and you have to make sure that the 828 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: person that you're talking to you, you want to talk 829 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: to you, is actively seeking you out right. So just 830 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: please y'all, please be safe on these internet streets because unfortunately, 831 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of shenanigans going on, 832 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 1: a lot of bad actors out there. So my roole 833 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: of thumb is, like, you know, treated the way you 834 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: would if you were like looking for a hairstylist or 835 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: looking for a lawyer or looking for a therapist, like, 836 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: really take your time to do the work and make 837 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: sure that the person that you're looking to connect with 838 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: is the real deal. M thank you for that, Mecca. 839 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: So one other term that you use that I want 840 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that we have some clarity around is transit. 841 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: So what do you mean when you say, like the 842 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: planets are transitting? Yes, So transit basically means like where 843 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: the planets are moving on any given day or month 844 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: or year. It's kind of like if you can think 845 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: of the each zodiac sign as being like a train station, 846 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: and the planets are trained so as they're moving like 847 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: as they're going, each planet has its own cycle. Some 848 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: are much quicker. I think the Moon is the fastest. 849 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: But then you know, you have like the slow outer 850 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: planets like you know, Neptune and Pluider that take like 851 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: because we would never be alive for them to make 852 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: their complete cycle. But basically what happens is as the 853 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: planets are moving going through their cycle, they are taking 854 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,439 Speaker 1: time in each sign depending you know, and the timing 855 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: has to do with the length of the cycle. But 856 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: basically they are stopping at each sign. So when we 857 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 1: talk about a transit, it has to do with where 858 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: the planet itself and what zodiac sign it's stationed in, 859 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: and then once it's done with that sign and moves 860 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: on to the next. Got it. The analogy of the 861 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: buses and the bus stage is super helpful. Yes, thank you, 862 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: thank you. You already talked about, you know, your books, 863 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: which were incredible resources. In the end of the last 864 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: time that you were here, you mentioned a great website 865 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: that you typically suggest to people who if they want 866 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: to do their birth chards. So can you give us 867 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: that website as well as any other resources in addition 868 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: to your books that people might find helpful. Sure, astro 869 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: dot com is a great resource in terms of like 870 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: getting a birth chart for free. They also have tons 871 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: of information and articles on their website. They have it 872 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: for different levels, like whether you're like a beginner or 873 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: intermediate or you know, more advanced. Astro dot com is 874 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: definitely one of them. I like the app Time Passages. 875 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: Time Passages is a great app for not only learning 876 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: more about your chart and also astrology, but it also 877 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: is good for tracking transits. Oh, there is a great 878 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: book called Astrology for Yourself if you're into if you're 879 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: super nerdy like me, and you're like writing and work 880 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: books and that, you know, like that kind of thing. 881 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: Astrology for Yourself is a great workbook and you can 882 00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: move at your own pace. I also have a like 883 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: course on my website that also can teach you some 884 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: of the basics and your chart step by step as well. 885 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: Perfect lot's of great resources that will definitely be sure 886 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: to include those in addition to the ones that you 887 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: shared with us the first time for people who want 888 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: to do a little bit more digging after they check 889 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: you out on the podcast. So where can we stay 890 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 1: connected with you? Mecca? You've already mentioned. We probably cannot 891 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: get on the calendar, but if we you know, my 892 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: chance have some openings. Where can we stay connected with 893 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: your website as well as your social media channels. Sure, 894 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: you can find me at my website my life created 895 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm on Instagram at one mechanism and you 896 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: can also find me on Twitter at the mechanism. If 897 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: you go to my website, my Life Critic dot com, 898 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: that's what you'll find everything for me perfect. Well, thank 899 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us again, Mecca. We really 900 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you so much for it was always 901 00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Thank you. I'm so glad Becca was able 902 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: to share her expertise with us again today. 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