WEBVTT - E.R. Fightmaster Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come

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<v Speaker 1>to me empty, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you dad to surbey me?

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<v Speaker 3>Very quickly? The live show sold out. It's June twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>If you still want to watch it, you can buy

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<v Speaker 3>a livestream at Dynasty typewriter dot com. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you you know, failed to buy a ticket, or

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<v Speaker 3>if your plane is canceled because of a blizzard or something,

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<v Speaker 3>you can still watch it on the internet Dynasty typewriter

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. Okay, now, podcast, welcome to I said no gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Bridger Wineger. We're in the backyard. Night is falling.

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<v Speaker 3>I took the rarely successful six point fifteen nap and

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<v Speaker 3>it worked out. I feel okay. The dishwasher is broken

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<v Speaker 3>beyond repair, but I do have I did get enough

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<v Speaker 3>points for a free chicken sandwich. So you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you reach those highs, you have to accept some of

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<v Speaker 3>these lows, and everything kind of evens out into kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a dull, muted numbness. And that's fine. Let's get

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<v Speaker 3>into the podcast. I adore today's guest. I think they're

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<v Speaker 3>so fantastic. It's Erfi Master. Welcome to I said no gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello. Oh, I'm so excited to be hearing your beautiful backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so thrilled to have you. And apparently you live

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<v Speaker 3>pretty nearby. We're neighbors. I can walk to you and

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've been walking to you saying please put

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<v Speaker 2>me on the pod, please please.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the middle of the night. Pebble's being thrown against

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<v Speaker 3>the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Me again? Are you up.

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<v Speaker 3>To say me again?

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of the night to someone's frightening fierce.

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<v Speaker 2>I think any anything that starts in that cadence is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be disturbing. Hey me again.

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<v Speaker 3>So sorry, I'm your burden. No, it's been an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>day for me. I woke up at five am. Why

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<v Speaker 3>I woke up hungry at five What is my body

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<v Speaker 3>doing in the middle of the night to make me hungry?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're shredded. You're shredded, so it's probably making more muscles.

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<v Speaker 3>It must absolutely just I'm getting ripped in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I do for a workout? Because you are shredded.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that. What's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Does everyone know this about you?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you one of those workout people where they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I didn't start working out until twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and I go to a husband and wife team and

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<v Speaker 3>no shit. Yeah, it's like a small gym that like

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<v Speaker 3>it's not personal training, but they keep an eye on you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that you go for half an hour afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>you dry heath or I do once I threw up

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<v Speaker 3>in the gutter. Wow, If you're not throwing up after

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<v Speaker 3>the gym, you've got to find a new gym to

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<v Speaker 3>go to.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's hit you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's is that what it's called?

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be. See, I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 2>you're throwing up afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I just go there and they tell me what

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<v Speaker 3>to do. Wow, And I'm a good student. I love that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just it's horrible, awful feeling. But I get

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<v Speaker 3>It's the only time I've ever committed to working out

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<v Speaker 3>because it's working out awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with working out, and I'm kind of obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody's like pathway.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you what's your situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'll do whatever I need to, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like if I'm like prepping for a show,

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<v Speaker 2>I change my whole like workout, or if I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I'm about to go on tour and so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like doing a lot of like joint focused stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Like what is joint focused stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot more like I'm doing pliometrics, but I'm focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on the landing for my knees.

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<v Speaker 3>What You've just said means nothing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm jumping onto boxes and I'm jumping off of them

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<v Speaker 2>instead of lifting heavyweights right to be to so I

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<v Speaker 2>can brace for like the impact of my own body weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when you're on tour, you're just kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>constantly uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a van, a bus?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything we're doing vans and planes and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you stand for an hour and fifteen minutes with like

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<v Speaker 2>an instrum on you, and everything just starts like to crumble,

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<v Speaker 2>everything starts to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>I can I go on a plane for five hours

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm done for a week, feel awful, hospitalized, absolutely hospitalized.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time they have the ambulance waiting for me on

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<v Speaker 3>the tar mat. No here he comes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't even charge me anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Your stage presence, what is what's your general thing? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you jumping around?

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<v Speaker 1>Are?

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<v Speaker 3>Because your music is very it lends itself to jumping

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<v Speaker 3>around and thrashing.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, you know, I think the I get

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<v Speaker 2>this really beautiful wave of calm actually when I'm up there,

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<v Speaker 2>so like the first few songs there's like a real

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<v Speaker 2>nervous energy, and then at some point during a show,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this, like you know, to get

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fruity about it. I feel this like truly

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<v Speaker 2>beam of like light that just centers me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I actually get like hyper, I get really.

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<v Speaker 3>Still okay, really in it, right, lost, absolutely lost. The

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<v Speaker 3>audience is worried.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the audience is like where are they? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the stage. I can't find the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I said I was gonna get water fifteen minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>The music stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we barely even started.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me my refund. How many cities you're going to?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing nine cities. Oh wow, Yeah, we're doing nine

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<v Speaker 2>cities and it's only like a three week tour. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty lush. Actually, it's only ten ten shows

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<v Speaker 2>over three weeks, which is great. We're all decrepit, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's better that way. Like if I was twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, we need to fit more in here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, ten shows, Jesus Christ. So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so curious about the touring life of a musician.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I mean, it seems relentless.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm only toured comedy before.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this your first music tour?

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<v Speaker 2>This is our first tour.

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<v Speaker 3>God, this could really be something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean it could be an absolute disaster. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you will I will text you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just had a huge meltdown on stage. Everything we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about was true.

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<v Speaker 2>I did get lost. Yeah, it's this is the first.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've been playing a bunch of shows at

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<v Speaker 2>the band. This band is only it's less than a

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<v Speaker 2>year old, so we've been playing a bunch of shows

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<v Speaker 2>and we've done New York and LA but this is

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<v Speaker 2>our first. We're going coast to coast and yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really excited.

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<v Speaker 3>And the band, I mean, it's your last name, hm,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's kind of you. It is it is me

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<v Speaker 3>and is the rest of the band rotating are they

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<v Speaker 3>aware they could go at any time?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny because when I started picking them, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually basically said, like, I want you to know that

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<v Speaker 2>you could go at any time?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>That is true? And I and I said it to

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<v Speaker 2>them because I was like, I want you to feel

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about being here, because if you're not excited,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to feel like you like the

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<v Speaker 2>It's not in a negative way, but nobody's irreplaceable, right that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all integral. I love everything that they do. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why they're there. But if they don't want to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gone, right, And that and I've but and I've

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we're we're both in the entertainment industry,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're both you become your own business. This is

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of just how I like kind boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Energy, Right, that makes perfect sense. And I mean, who

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be on tour if they're not happy anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>And you you think about it like it's my last

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<v Speaker 2>name and these are my songs, But what it really

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<v Speaker 2>is is it's it's I spend the money to do

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, you know what I mean? You always spend

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<v Speaker 2>money to make the art, and they I make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they're paid the best absolute that I can, all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the benefit of being able to be a

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<v Speaker 2>plug and play person, right. I'm not if they were

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<v Speaker 2>if we were all brothers and their last name is

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<v Speaker 2>fat Master too, I would expect them to give me

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<v Speaker 2>money to help pay for this tour, right, But that's

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<v Speaker 2>not how it is.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just coming along and getting paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they're proud of what they do, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love that. In the minute they don't feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>they get to leave and then there's no hard feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's easier that way.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the job interview aspect of bringing in a

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<v Speaker 3>band member.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great question. I so the the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>plays my drums, Riley Gears, also co produces The Right

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<v Speaker 2>and so that was a no brainer. And he has

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<v Speaker 2>played for other bands that I'm in love with. He

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<v Speaker 2>plays for Caroline Rose who Oh my God, Incredible and

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<v Speaker 2>Unknown Mortal Orchestra, and so I just gauged his interests

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<v Speaker 2>and he was so excited about this project that he

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<v Speaker 2>immediately wanted to be on board. So that was easy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my best friend who toured with me, Nick Gage,

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<v Speaker 2>he is my synth player, and he toured comedy with.

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<v Speaker 3>Me for Okay, so he's kind of proven and he's

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<v Speaker 3>not annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the opposite of annoying. He can take a punch

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<v Speaker 2>to the nose and smile through it. He's like just

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<v Speaker 2>constantly good energy. And then the guitarist I found. I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching his videos online during COVID, and once COVID

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cleared, he texted me out of the blue

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, hey, would you ever want to get

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee? And I was like blown away because he's

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<v Speaker 2>such a shredder. We went out for coffee. He's, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, he's like six five, which to me very high.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh of course, I mean, who is that not hot too?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anybody that says otherwise is lying, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like absolutely bullshit. It's bullshit. And he was. He

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<v Speaker 2>was so nice and so like eager to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of something. And so I guess the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I was looking for is people that were

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<v Speaker 2>eager to be there right right, And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And did you say, you know, like play something for me? No,

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<v Speaker 3>that seems insane.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the nice part about social media is you can

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<v Speaker 2>go and look at the course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what did people used to do that? I guess

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<v Speaker 3>they'd have to sit down and be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>Alas just fired a gun at that Happy Birthday. It's

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<v Speaker 3>fireworks season, that's right, it is until Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love them to la buckle up. I do

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 3>When did you start playing music?

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<v Speaker 2>I've been playing music since, like instruments, since I was

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<v Speaker 2>like six.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your first instrument?

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<v Speaker 2>Piano?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Me too?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how long have you been playing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I took piano lessons for at least a decade and

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<v Speaker 3>learned virtually nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I can read the right hand what is the treble cleft?

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<v Speaker 3>I can form chords, but I cannot put those things

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<v Speaker 3>together to make music.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only write music. I can't read it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, and you've been I mean I can't read

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<v Speaker 3>that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I and I barely know what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>on like the neck of my guitar. I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to tell you, guys, it's due,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like they're like no that

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<v Speaker 2>he says that's an F sharp and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, sure, you're just doing it tonally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm so jealous of that to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>just do it by feeling rather than what do I have? What?

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<v Speaker 3>What do I have to show? Bothering my boyfriend on

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<v Speaker 3>the piano? Just yes, clanking around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what piano's for, is for hurting others.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ultimately a weapon, is the piano percussion? It should

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<v Speaker 3>be holys is nodding, Yes, Yeah, it's fascinating percussion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to get more like drums with that make

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<v Speaker 3>piano noises. Piano noises ultimate, I'll figure it out. This

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of your ultimate goal. I think sometimes about

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<v Speaker 3>other planets. Certainly there are other people there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what is an alien instrument? That's all. That's the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing I care about on other planets is to find

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<v Speaker 3>out what sort of instruments they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Using one hundred percent and can they also fuck with them? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm looking at a lot of these instruments that

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<v Speaker 2>we have and I'm like, we're supposed to want to

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<v Speaker 2>fuck that for sure, We're supposed to be finding ways.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, maybe maybe not everyone agrees with me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I look at a lot of these instruments

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, they're begging for it. That's part of it, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've wondered Alien certainly at least some of their instruments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what's your face? Do you have a least favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Song on our set list?

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<v Speaker 3>No, of all time? I like to ask musicians this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my fucking god. You know, it's maybe not my

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<v Speaker 2>least favorite song of all time, but I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to be too negative. But it's seeping out of me

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<v Speaker 2>because I heard it today. I hate Dave Matthews band. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it so much, like it comes on and

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<v Speaker 2>I get so fucking mad. I just can't even under Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know when people like hate Scott just like

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<v Speaker 2>to hate it. I don't feel that way. I like

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<v Speaker 2>try to like everything, and I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck is going on with that, and it's such like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, God damn it. It's like all straight

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<v Speaker 2>people have like that moment where like they'll hear like

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<v Speaker 2>Byron and a room full of straight people be like

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<v Speaker 2>ah and point to like some non existent speaker Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess that I'm I mean, I'm on the

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<v Speaker 3>same page. And Dave Matthew's bend is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that much of the Dave Matthews band music,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like, it's funny how greating it is considering

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<v Speaker 3>how mellow. It's like, ah, turn that off.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when they shot on those people.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh of course, yeah, one of the most famous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a huge part of the twentieth century is then

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<v Speaker 3>dumping sewage all over before? Was that the twentieth century

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<v Speaker 3>or was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? What is the allowed to be mad at them?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they really did like this. It's such a

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<v Speaker 3>metaphor for what they've been doing musically for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>But the metaphor would only be like good if the

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<v Speaker 2>people on the boat were like, yum shit, Because that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the concerts feel like to me.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all opening their mouths.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm sorry, but it's too many concerts where people

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<v Speaker 2>are being blankets. Like if every concert youth throw somebody

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<v Speaker 2>can bring a blanket, it's probably not pleasant. Yeah enough Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like the blankets probably should come into

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<v Speaker 3>like your third chapter of your musical career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, third and final, when your.

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<v Speaker 3>Fan base's age were all ready to be at the

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<v Speaker 3>park on a blank they it.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like to me, they started as blanket band.

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<v Speaker 3>There was never a standing no no no. They were

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<v Speaker 3>never at the will Turn. They were permanently in Red Rocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of just appeared there and been there forever. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the same page Dave Matthews bandwise with you for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay when I have another one, and I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is like, this is gonna upset more people of my generation.

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<v Speaker 2>But Red Hot Chili Peppers there is one. My mom

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<v Speaker 2>played one of the songs while she was pregnant with me,

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<v Speaker 2>oh boy, and I like, it's a oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>Like just so many of those songs. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>because she played them that I just want to like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to end it like I want to end it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want it to stop. I want my life to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>So but those are the kind of the only two

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<v Speaker 2>bands that I really feel that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But are they're very strong feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>They're soup. I mean, it's guttural.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the Chili Peppers, I would say, are irritating,

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<v Speaker 3>Unlike Dave Matthews, Like when you turn on Red Hot

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<v Speaker 3>Chili Peppers, it's frantic, it's obnoxious.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to irritate you. So I don't even feel

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<v Speaker 2>bad about it, right, And I can still look at

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<v Speaker 2>like what both of these bands are doing and like

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<v Speaker 2>understand the beautiful musical feats like Flee that you know

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<v Speaker 2>the bass player is doing absolutely insane shit and like

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<v Speaker 2>if you play that to me in a cell, I

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<v Speaker 2>would talk, I would confess to things. Yeah, yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was Julie Klausner who said the Red

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<v Speaker 3>Hot Chili Peppers are the funky Doors oh yeah, which

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<v Speaker 3>was like, yes, that is exactly what's happening. They all

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<v Speaker 3>seem like nice guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'm sure, yeah, but I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't need them playing music for me. I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>need them.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's plenty of people who disagree, and those are

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<v Speaker 2>the people. Those are the people that they get to

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<v Speaker 2>play music for.

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<v Speaker 3>And I you know, I support anybody doing anything as

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<v Speaker 3>long as it's not anywhere near.

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<v Speaker 2>Me one hundred percent. That's called tolerance. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite Ish band right now? I'm on a real

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<v Speaker 2>Heart kick?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow? Yeah, see, I mean, I know, like the

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<v Speaker 3>two big Heart singles, and then I would. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>really dipped into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of visit bands like like chapters, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>usually because I'm writing music or I'm like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>learn any thing and then I'll just you know, hyper

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<v Speaker 2>focus on them for a long time. And what I've

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<v Speaker 2>been enjoying about listening to Heart is there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>iconic sounds, like when everybody knows the beginning of Barrakuda,

0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and she's kind of like Billie Holliday where she's choosing

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<v Speaker 2>notes that are not obvious and she's beating her players

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<v Speaker 2>to the key change. Like, so she's doing all these

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<v Speaker 2>things as a vocalist where you're listening to it and

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<v Speaker 2>it's you have to study it to replicate it right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, I find but when you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to it outside of music, you're like, oh my god,

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it seems effortless, right, So I don't know, there's something

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<v Speaker 2>really creative about what she's doing. And that's that's my

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<v Speaker 2>hyper focus right now.

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<v Speaker 3>How would I've never really thought about Heart within genre?

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<v Speaker 3>They're not like a hair metal band? Are they just

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<v Speaker 3>a rock band? Is that what we would say?

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<v Speaker 2>They're a rock band, But they're kind of like Fleetwood

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<v Speaker 2>in that sense that they can do kind of that like, well,

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 2>they're maybe a bit more expansive than Fleeva could Fleeva

0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:06.800
<v Speaker 2>gets into like.

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<v Speaker 3>That folky territory.

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<v Speaker 2>But Heart had a really big period where they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing like like kind of like Cynthia eighties, right, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, right, almost new wavy but not Yes,

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and then they have like a Crazy on You which

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.359
<v Speaker 2>starts with that like incredible like beautiful acoustic guitar solo.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they have something like Barracuda, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of timeless. Right, So there's just a really expansive

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<v Speaker 2>rock band.

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<v Speaker 3>Undefinable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Dave Matthews, like like the all time great

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Matthew. Do you have a favorite band.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I have a favorite band. I A

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<v Speaker 3>friend texted me recently, like, what are your favorite albums?

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even really. I was like, he said ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, I just can't give you ten.

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<v Speaker 3>So I ended up sending him this way over long

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<v Speaker 3>text favorite, I mean my favorite band in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>This is kind of horrifying, is in some ways we

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<v Speaker 3>ser oh, yeah, fun because I have two good albums

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<v Speaker 3>and then it's just nonstopping.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're solid good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're so good to Yes, I mean one

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<v Speaker 3>thing I'll say that Kanye West has done for me,

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.320
<v Speaker 3>is be more embarrassing than we ser so people who

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Speaker 3>are fans of him. I'm like, well, at least my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite band didn't get to you know, yes, confusing white supremacy.

0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. He's kind of like

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.960
<v Speaker 2>they went and bought homes, right, This is an honorable

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.680
<v Speaker 2>thing to do when you're a band is make money

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<v Speaker 2>and then go buy home and be quiet for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Quiet, and then vet all of your ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a bunch of bunch of people before they ever

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<v Speaker 2>make it out of the internet.

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, get so many safeguards that you're guaranteed it won't

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<v Speaker 3>be a problem that.

0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Goes for most of us. I think I want us

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<v Speaker 2>all to do our creative pursuits until we become unpleasant.

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<v Speaker 2>Then buy a house and just be quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>Silently makes your sing your song for yourself. Yes, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Weezer was the band.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a lot of loud music. I like when

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<v Speaker 2>you work out, what's that? What do you work out to?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever they have on at the gym, which is actually

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty decent mix of like garage rock and new

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 3>wave and like synthpop. There was a period though, when

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<v Speaker 3>they were playing like hardcore or like death metal covers

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<v Speaker 3>of like Lady Gaga and there was like screaming monster voice,

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<v Speaker 3>and it put me in the absolute worst mood. Possibly

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already mad when I'm there, I'm already like truly

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 3>angry that I'm doing and then to have like this

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<v Speaker 3>insane cover of Lady it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like the stuff they played at.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's literally what they played for them is like scream metal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, not for me in any situation, let alone when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like throwing like one hundred pounds over my hand.

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<v Speaker 2>No, oh yeah, I don't think it's supposed to be listenable, right,

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that's not the intent.

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 3>What is the intent?

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the intent is to say you're in a screen band.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the intent by these tattoos. You've got to do

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<v Speaker 3>something like yes, yeah. I feel like someone must have

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<v Speaker 3>complained because I was about to complain and then they

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<v Speaker 3>stopped playing the music. So but every day I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what if it's today's the day, and then I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be trapped in here and my life will be ruined.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you were going to run a marathon

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<v Speaker 2>and you had to listen to one song on repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>what would it be oh, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>See. When people have started asking me music questions, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying not to just panic an answer. I say, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to think about this. I think there's a song

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<v Speaker 3>by the Oss called The Dream. It's about seven minutes long,

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 3>and it's got a nice rhythm. It's it's I think

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<v Speaker 3>it would be a perfect running song. It has a

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.920
<v Speaker 3>mo in it that there's like a burst in the

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 3>middle of the song that I almost drive off the

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 3>road every time that comes song. I'm so excited for

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 3>it to happen because it like kind of slows down

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 3>and then erupts in this way and it's like, oh,

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 3>my entire body has become the cosmost really, but ultimately

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be running because I hate running.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, it's it's a sin.

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<v Speaker 3>What song would you do? You know what?

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Right now? It would maybe be a Chapel Rowan song.

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh Chapel is really I mean just blown up in

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<v Speaker 3>the craziest way.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's you know, she's been doing this shit since

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<v Speaker 2>she's like fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's got to be so satisfying, so sad, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing it since you're fifteen and then be twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>and like now finally getting attention, Like most of us

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>start out the thing that we're gonna happen. We're twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and then remember thirty five, we are retired.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, twenty I didn't realize she was that young.

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a baby.

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I just assume everyone's successful is older than me, I

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 3>would hope. So, yeah, I know, it's just what I hope.

0:23:59.320 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 3>So I get.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so mad when I find out otherwise.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 3>When I'm watching the NBA now, it's always like I

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>have to just constantly remind myself these people are in

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 3>their twenties and like very early maybe early thirties.

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, and the ones that look really old, early thirties.

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 3>Right, some of them do look aged.

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're like graying and they're thirty four. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's the stress of the big place. Yes, did you

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<v Speaker 2>play any sports in high school?

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I played volleyball and basketball, and I played a little

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<v Speaker 2>volleyball in college.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, in college, so you must be decent.

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I was decent.

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<v Speaker 3>Volleyball is my number one most feared sport. Why I'm

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 3>horrified fun and playing.

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<v Speaker 2>You are built like a setter.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, Yes, are the ball coming at me? I'm screaming.

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's going to hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not athletic at all.

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't play any sports. I played badminton, okay, and

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I played basketball in middle school and simply never scored

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 3>a point. That the pause was me trying to remember

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<v Speaker 3>what badminton was. Oh, badminton is lovely of like tennis,

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the long long one. Yeah, it's like a long Uh,

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>it's thin. It's kind of like uh. I would say,

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 3>it's like the Virginia slim of tennis.

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>That makes an Is it the birdie or what I mean?

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a birdie or a shuttlecock I think is

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<v Speaker 3>probably what they call it in the Olympics. Do they

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 3>play badminton in the Olympics on the app too? I hope,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 3>So give me something to watch. No, it's it's a

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 3>great sport because there's no heavy object that you're afraid

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 3>is going to hit you.

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you did make a big fuss about

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>that little thing hitting you, you shouldn't be playing anyway.

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, And also everyone would get to enjoy you freaking

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 3>out about that. They should make a Challengers for badminton. Now,

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 3>that would be sexy, that would be probably That's probably

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 3>why they chose tennis. It was too erotic if they

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<v Speaker 3>had badminton.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, badminton has been an official Olympics sport since

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety two.

0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow interest sting, Wow thirty one thirty two solid years.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety two feels late for badminton to be entering. It

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 3>feels like something that would have been like nineteen hundreds

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 3>or eighteen hundred or ancient Greece.

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 2>This was one of the first sports, for sure.

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's something else we need to talk about. Unfortunately. Look,

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 3>I was really excited to have you here today. I

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 3>was looking forward to it.

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 3>I took a nap before so I would have the

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 3>energy to, you know, just have a great time with you. Thought,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>er will come over, nothing will go wrong, my night

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 3>won't be ruined. So I was a little surprised. My

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 3>heart was pounding when I saw you walking up into

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 3>my backyard holding this gorgeous gift bag. Yes, the podcast

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 3>is called I said, no gifts right.

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't read that.

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You you just got into the rest of the email

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 3>left over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I never read the title of an email. I kind

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 2>of don't, you know.

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 3>I famously don't use subject lines.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>No the titles for the person sending it. Yes, it's

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>for their it's their a little art projector itself.

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Get creative, it's for you. Do the subject line you

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 3>would love to read.

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's certainly not for anybody else.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well that's a perfect excuse. Uh should I open

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 3>this yere on the podcast?

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I like to watch people open their guess.

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Like everyone, Yeah, Okay, we're gonna dip into this kind

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 3>of crispy brown bag and I'm pulling it.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm thrilled about this. I'm actually thrilled. It's a

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 2>disposable camera. Yeah, and let me explain.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I explain.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>On your Instagram.

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and I saw that.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>You take all these incredibly compelling photos of trash, thank

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>you so much. And I thought we have to elevate

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>these onto film, and I just I kind of want

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>to see what you're capable of when you're doing it.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know, photography's rare, you know, the.

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Raw form, they're lacking that texture, they're lacking a little

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>bit of grain. Yeah, this is a I feel like

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 3>it is like a recently trendy thing to get a

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 3>disposal camera. But I received one. Someone gave me one

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>on this podcast pre pandemic. We recorded sixteen episodes before

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>the pandemic crushed us, and someone gave me one and

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I took a picture probably once every four months during

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 3>the pandemic, and then a month ago got them developed. Finally.

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Are they incredible? I know they they're awesome.

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh this is going to sound so stupid, but there's

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>something about them that feels more like the memory to

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>me than a digital like an iPhone camera.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's honest. I think that's true. Like

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I think with like these, this is like a twenty

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>three milimeter like, oh, sure, it's like closer to what

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the human eye is than your iPhone lens.

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh is that true?

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And so when you're looking at these things like it,

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Actually when I don't take fucking photos on my phone

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>anymore because they drive me nuts, they don't ever look

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like the thing, and they don't have any nostalgia attached.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think that because there I don't know what

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the hell it is, but everything feels either long or

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>wide or distorted in some way. And I like how

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>flat film is.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 3>It looks so beautiful.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like you blinked, And that is the memory you

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>get to keep.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Well that makes perfect sense. Yeah, I looked at those

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.719
<v Speaker 3>and I thought, these is like twenty four photos are

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 3>more valuable than the last truly twelve thousand photos I took.

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And then you take less photos, which I actually

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>like because I have one of these on me at

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 2>all times now, and you take way less photos. But

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and it just takes up less. I'm not like now

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I get to be pretentious about being the like when

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>people like take out their photo to look at something,

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 2>it's ridiculous soft they don't understand, and I'll bring out

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>my little I mean, I feel like a Duevus in

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>my own right, like having a little disposable with me.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>But it always looks fucking cool, and I don't spend

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 2>it like fifteen minutes like opening my camera looking at

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>a photo of my fucking dog and then like zooming in,

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>zooming in, accidentally flipping it to portrait mode, you know

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like there's something elegant about it, and

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you really have to just think about the photo and

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 2>then it's gone. You don't have to get to you

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>don't get a thousand chances to take it, and if

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you fuck it up, you fuck it up.

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 3>And that feels good. Yeah, you get a nice messy

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 3>picture and who cares?

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Who cares?

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Where do you get yours? Developed?

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Fromax?

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 3>What's that?

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Fromax? Is this place? What's it?

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Not?

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Maybe Alta Dina?

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>But you have to go to the places in the

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>city that are like you know, I would not get

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>my stuff developed at Walgreen because the Walgreen's or CBS

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>or anything, because I actually think they like fuck it

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>up somehow. I mean, I just think they do. But

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>these these folks, they they they not only develop the photos,

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>but then they digitize them for you and they send

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>them to you. So it's actually really relatively easy. Now

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it feels like a.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Ritual, right. I go to a place like that in Glendale,

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 3>near some sort of salad store, perfect Salad to Go

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>or something. I cannot remember the name of the photo

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>place sandwiched between an eye hop and a Salad to Go.

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Salad to Go.

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know that that's the name, but something

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 3>like that.

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>But if it is the name, what a passionless project?

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine? Your life's stream is salad to Go.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 2>You get married to some guy named Chris and he

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>owns a salad to Go franchise. Jesus Christ.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>God, Now that's my goal. I'm going to get all

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 3>of my money into Salad to Go to Go.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>If it was named like Crispy Greens, I could respect it.

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Sure you're at least thinking about the vegetable.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is there any opportunity to eat it in the store?

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think so. Oh No, Salad to Go

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>is my business concept. Sharks. In front of you is

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>a bowl of salad. Imagine being able to take that

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>wherever you go.

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I want one hundred percent equity for one hundred dollars.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Please take this from get this out of everyone in

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 3>my life. It's kind of like, what's the tape that

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 3>you pass along and it kills people?

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Tape worm?

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's pass along by kissing as we all know. Yeah,

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 3>you kissing cooked mouth, you will get a tape worm?

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Or are you talking about the one from the Ring?

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 3>The Ring? I keep I kept thinking the View, the curse,

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>the tape view.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Hard.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I want you very heart to get the ring.

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh man. I would watch an entire like spin off

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>where it's the ladies from the View watch the ring

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and pass it around.

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 3>To each other, just kind of around in her.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>They keep surviving because they just they keep passing.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 3>It brought a tape in to work for.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>You, one haunted tape.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>You know this is a different tape.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't do that to you four times.

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>You know how many tapes I have at home? The Ring.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's the scariest movie of all times.

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I might watch it in the last five years. No shit,

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it was pretty scary.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>You're lucky you watched it in the last five years.

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I watched it as a child at room in my life.

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that would have been a rough experience.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 3>I it scared me as an adult, and I'm hard

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 3>to scare as an adult at this point. I'm pretty

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 3>numb to most horror films.

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's terrifying.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 3>That's got the little girl.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>All you need is a little girl with the Japanese

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>water ghost. That's all you need to put in any

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:51.719
<v Speaker 2>story for me. And I'm gonna be afraid.

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Where is she coming from?

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Why and why?

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 3>What's her agenda?

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>And of course, like we find out you know that

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>she gets like pushed in the well or whatever, but

0:33:58.880 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>we also.

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Find out that evil right, so she kind of deserved her.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Her parents had to kill her because she was being

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 2>a bitch.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Get out of our lives.

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Also a crazy part of that story now that I'm

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>thinking about that, that like, remember I think it's Nami Watts, Yes,

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Nami Wats is like like finding out that the little

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>girl is like has been killed by somebody close to

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>her whatever, and then she like is doing more research

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 2>and she realizes it's because the little girl's a bitch.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's when we're supposed to be like, oh, good, good, good,

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm glad she was killed. We gotta put the

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>fucking cover on the hot tub or the well?

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Is there a hot tub in the movie?

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>To me, I'm realizing that wells look like hot.

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 3>If she doesn't crawl out of a hot tub at

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 3>some point, what were they doing?

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Missed opportunity. When we reboot this for the women from

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the view, it.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Will be a hot tub and she will be so

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 3>relaxed crawling out of it, and.

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>She'll have combed her hair.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 3>God, isn't there something to do with a horse in

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>that movie? Does a horse jump off a boat?

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, Oh it kills itself.

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 3>It kills it stuff? Did it? Watch the tape?

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It had to Yes, a fairy there's a horse on

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the fair fairy and it jumps off and it like

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 2>throws itself into the blades.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, another shot from on, only you have one more chance.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I brought one with exactly three bullets, which is a

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 4>frantic horse because I just saw this recently too, But

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 4>I forgot a frantic horse breaks out of its trailer

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 4>when Rachel approaches and throws itself off of a fairy where.

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh I don't want to say this, so it's after

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 4>where it's promptly shredded by the propellers to.

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Be shredded by.

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>But we want to know why.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just a frantic horse. It's just to set the

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>mood problem.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was off.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was mad. It had a bad day at work,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 3>and it was like, I can't do another fairy ride.

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Fuck shred me.

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely take me through a propeller. Have you ever

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 3>water skied?

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh? My god, First of all, unbelievable transition. Unbelievable. My

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend in high school, her dad had a boat and

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>he would take us out to water ski and I

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>would watch him try to kill her.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 3>But she's a little girl. From the ring.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. That was the energy. It is like

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 2>she deserved it, but I but when I watched it

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 2>then they would always try to get me on the

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>skis and I was like, no, I do it. I

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 2>see the bit. The bit is like you want people

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>to wipe out. I'm never going to do this. I'm

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to do something where I'm not in control,

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>is what I'm learning. Of Course, if I was driving

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the boat and I was the one on the skis,

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>sure right.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 3>If your doppelganger was driving the boat.

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>If it was my twin and I could trust some

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>we had the same brain. But there's kind of no

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking way I'm letting a human being do that to me. Impossible.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 3>So you never got up on the skis.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Not a single fucking time. Fuck that shit. I've got

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>to get you out on the boat like a true prank.

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Is that sport to me?

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I haven't been since I was a kid, but

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 3>want to go so bad. I don't know that it's

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>athletic rope.

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>No, it's athletic. You have to get up, you have

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to get You just have to be able to be dragged.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>And I can be dragged through anything.

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 3>I really do think this is kind of a thing

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I've recently realized that my life feels like when you

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>first learn to water ski, they tell you to let

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>go of the rope because if you follow, you should

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 3>go of the rope because you'll just get dragged through

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 3>the water. And I feel like my entire life is

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 3>just holding onto the rope and getting dragged through the water,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 3>just blasted in the face over and over. Please let

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>me get on the ski.

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing persistence, I'm hearing resilience. I'm gonna turn those

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 2>self a steak. No, you can say that, I'm gonna

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 2>say persistence, resilience.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 3>I wish you'd go water ski. I just wish it.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Will never happen for me. There are things that I

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>understand that thatga of outcome far outweighs me having the best.

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Time of my life being in a devilment gum commercial.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, I'm absolutely impossibility.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 3>The thing for me that I won't get on ever

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 3>again is did you ever see the tube behind the boat?

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Fuck that that too?

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>No, thank you, because that anytime anytime someone's in that,

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to get you off of it exact you're

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna get your head ripped off. Yes, yes, yes, no,

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I don't want to live in fear.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 3>And you you really have no control when you're on

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 3>the tube. At least with the skis you can let go.

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I heard an awful story about girl who went

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 2>water skiing and she fell in such a way that

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 2>she had a full prolapse because of a jet of water. Oh,

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm not like like that for me. As

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you hear that story and you go and thank you

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and thank you very much. You know you don't hear that.

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 2>You go, But I'm I'm I'm going to take my chances,

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 2>but I might as well give it a shot. Yeah, No,

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Everything I have I want tucked neatly inside

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 2>still for.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 3>Now, for now, you may have a change of heart. Yeah,

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 3>our high school bully got his hand ripped off.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Jesus God.

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on a fucking jet like a rope got wrapped.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean I should have you know, I should have

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:19.720
<v Speaker 3>warned the listener.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's too late. You suck it up, enough, suck

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>it up, But.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>These things happen. We need to know because I'm tempting

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:29.760
<v Speaker 3>you to water ski And now I need to reveal

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 3>that I know someone got their hand ripped off.

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It was it was the high school bully.

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 3>The high school bully, which is you know, it's a

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 3>hard thing to hear because you know, what, what feeling

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>do you have? I'm trying to have a generous heart.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 3>But at the time, you know, it was interesting. That

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 3>can happen.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to think about it forever.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 3>And it happens to people who aren't high school bullies.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those people have not so interesting a story. But

0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>high school bully.

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Jesus, do not let things get wrapped around your hand.

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 2>That's how you don't make fun of people. That's why

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>someday you might have a little nub from a skiing accident.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>And now now who's gonna get bullied?

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 3>And now everyone's feelings are complicated? Me. Yeah, that's why

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't wear a metal ring to the gym, because

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I to anywhere, because I know someone And again, graphics story,

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I know someone who got their ring caught on a

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 3>fence and ripped their fingers.

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 2>What are these people doing?

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:26.919
<v Speaker 3>What's happening in my life?

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Why were they climbing?

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 3>The factbeah, I'm the ring.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Ah.

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 3>I think it was like in mid elementary school or something,

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, climbing fences in elementary school and what And

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 3>then I was wearing a metal ring once putting the

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>dishes away, and a fork got caught in the metal

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>ring and I said, never again. Yeah, no, thank you.

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine you've got the disposal. You imagine horror.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been to the hospital?

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I got. I got a really bad concussion

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 2>when I was like thirteen. I fell like ten feet

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>straight onto my head on cement. I heard from what

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>everything I was standing on like the back of a chair,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>balancing on the back of a chair, and my friend

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>H kicked it out because that would be funny. You know,

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>when your friend of lopes not developed, You're like, that

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 2>would be funny. And I found and I didn't catch

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 2>myself with my hands or my back or anything because

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I fell so fast and I split from the back

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>of like the nape of my neck.

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Up to the front of Oh my god.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 2>But the grossest part, listener, is that my skin didn't break,

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and so there was just a bunch of bleeding. A balloon.

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:31.240
<v Speaker 2>It was a fucking balloon.

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>This podcast has become very violent recently.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 2>We brought up that fucking little girl from the ring.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I know what happened to her. By the way, this

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>is yes, bring her up anywhere if you if you're

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a kid and a bitch.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Kind of scam, he's a scam.

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna end up in a while. That's nobody's fault

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>but yours.

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 3>And suddenly you're hosting the view.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say it. It's nobody's fault, yours.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Ah wow, that's uh so, what like what did they

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 3>do to repair you?

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Well? I was put in like a little three day

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 2>coma and then I wasn't allowed to do activities for

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 2>a while.

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>But my.

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Basketball coach I came it was like, this happened in

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>the summer, And I told my basketball coach at the

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 2>end of summer when was started, it was like, I'm

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to technically start like doing anything for the

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>next like month and a half. And he was like,

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 2>then you won't be on the team, and I was like, well,

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 2>yes I will. And so I just got back into it. Wow. Yeah,

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>And now they did tell me that it would interfere

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>with like rage and because of where I hit it,

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and let me tell you it did in what way?

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I it like truly, I had a very like angry

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and depressed teenage years, but like in a very like

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 2>not always connected to things. Oh fascinating, Yeah, but that's subsided, yes, yeah,

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, the older I get them more like mitigated

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it is. But it was like, certainly up to fifteen

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>years afterwards, it was like quick quick, quick to rage,

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>could not get down from it?

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Could the same thing happen and make you happy? Quick to?

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, because I was reading a book about

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.919
<v Speaker 2>music lovers, like it's I think it's called like music

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Aphelia or whatever, and they're people that I've had like

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>really traumatic brain injuries or near death experiences. They some

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>of them come back and they can write and compose music. Oh,

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 2>never having done it before. That's like that's magic, magic magic,

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 2>like completely like beautiful mysticism, like will make you listen

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 2>reading this book of like it will make you believe

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>in God, Like it's just like crazy, but it is

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 2>like that a part of their brain was affected and

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 2>it turned on specifically music. It's a whole book of

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 2>people that had this happened to them. So you're like, yeah,

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 2>there there are atter ways to get your head.

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Injured, right, look for those ways when falling off a

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 3>chair yeah, did your friend learn a lesson?

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I was at a I was at a private high

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 2>school and my uh, my friend was there on scholarship,

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and so I did not ever tell on my friend.

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 2>And so my friend, my friend and I never talked

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>about her anything. I just we did each other a

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 2>solid and we're like, never.

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Brought it up. And wow, now the principal's going to

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 3>hear this podcast and we're sinned there, and I agree.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I hope they go back and find him and his

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 2>last name is.

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Take that diploma. Yeah, rip it off his parents wall exactly.

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Shame on you.

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's very generous of you.

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Snitches get stitches in their spirit.

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is a very pro snitch podcast. We

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 3>love a.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Snitch, okay, and that's fair.

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I love a rat. Yeah, I love someone who just

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 3>can't keep a secret to themselves.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a gemini, so me.

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid I probably would snitch. I feel like I

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 3>would be a snitch. Yes, you know, we all have.

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with about who we are. And I'm

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm I ain't no snitch, but they're definitely I have

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 2>definitely shared secrets I was not supposed to.

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's fair. You know, it's so much fun hard.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>It feels great, yes, you, and then the feeling goes

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 3>away and you have to do it again.

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you gotta get that hit.

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Just divulging secrets all over time.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. One big, one big personal

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>secret a year that is not in any way yours

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 2>to share. And yeah, you're gonna have some shame. Yes,

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have some gal it's gonna eat you. You're

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna be worried about. Oh God, is the person I

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 2>tell being responsible with it like I was supposed to be. Still,

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>it's worth every every minute.

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Do you like gossip?

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, me too.

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I just love to spread the news.

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, it's a beautiful thing.

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 3>It's such a special thing.

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes. And obviously any anybody who doesn't like gossip I

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>find very irritating. They're like when people are like, uh,

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, let's talk about something positive, I'm like, this

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 2>is positive. It's making me happy. We're connecting right now

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:19.959
<v Speaker 2>over something salacious.

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 3>It feels so good.

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>What's more positive than that?

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And you know you're learning and maybe it's edifying

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 3>you in some way. You're you'll look out for those

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 3>people or you know.

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>The excuse you can tell yourself is that sometimes when

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you're gossiping about others, if you're doing it quote unquote empathetically,

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 2>you're building out your understanding of them in your mind

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:45.280
<v Speaker 2>so that you can treat them with more empathy.

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I know that someone's so cheated on his wife,

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>and he he must have done that, because.

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, And we as a community,

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:58.919
<v Speaker 3>as many of us as possible, need to know this, Yes,

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 3>so that we can support him and her. We need

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 3>to be there for both of them.

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 3>No, I love gossip, but I like, I mean, it's

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 3>been a real uh drought since the beginning of the

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 3>pandemic and then zoom. People aren't working in the same

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 3>rooms as much anymore, so you don't get quite as much.

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's been a really hard time for for

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>gay people.

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's been extremely hard. That's why I'm going back

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 3>to church for the gossip.

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need a little bit more punishment. Yeah, you

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.439
<v Speaker 2>wrote for I hope this makes you happy. You wrote

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>for me Schman, Oh yeah, of course, and loved it.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I would you know, argue like obviously one of the

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 2>top three comedies of all time when I I was

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 2>like showing my comedies to my partner because she's not

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 2>like super She just like did not grow up with

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:55.919
<v Speaker 2>these genre just was like not a big comedy person,

0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to get her in to comedy.

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 2>And Kimmy Schmidt was the first show I thought of.

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I felt so lucky to work on that show. It's

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, to work for those people was wonderful. It

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 2>felt like going to the Olympics.

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>It was crazy. Because I loved thirty Rocks so much,

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I've been working on Kimmy was just wonderful. I have

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 3>a small I'm in Kimmy. I play a gay.

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Swat guy unbelievable who like is.

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Brought onto dish with Kimmy's friend.

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 2>So you get to do that because you're shredded.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I said, who else here is shredded? We did kind

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 3>of an office witch hunt about who's shredded?

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Who the fuck is?

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Now? This was pre media ever lifting a weight, so

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I was at the time very scrawny. Wow, you know

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't lift a pencil. Now I can lift two

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 3>paper clips. Yeah, Kimmy Schmid, I really adored that show.

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 3>And uh yeah, I feel like there aren't that many

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 3>real laughy comedies.

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Now, no, and not not. I'm I mean Kimmy is

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.240
<v Speaker 2>like a joke every fifteen seconds.

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. To be able to like miss jokes and then

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 3>have to go back to hear them unbelievable.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>You could rewatch the show so many times.

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Jane Krakowski everybody, and it's wonderful. What a show.

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Um?

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Do we have anything else to say about cameras before

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 3>we move on?

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I really sincerely hope that you do take some trash

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 2>picks on this.

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take a total of twenty seven pictures

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 3>of twenty six because we need to get a shot together.

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting, Yes, we'll take one and that will still

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 3>be trash, and that will be absolute garbage. That'll be

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 3>the worst of all of them. And then I'll get

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 3>them developed at some point and then they'll appear on Instagram.

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we're in a book and I'll do the

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 3>pic coffee table book. Why don't I have a coffee

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:48.959
<v Speaker 3>table book?

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because people are sleeping on you.

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 3>My manager is not doing her job, name her. I

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 3>have a proposal, get me a publisher. I have so

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 3>many pictures of trash, say er sent to you. Yes,

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 3>you can write the forward. Oh please, oh my god,

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 3>and then you'll be in the author bio. We'll use

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 3>this photo as the yes. Yes, yeah, pictured Bridger Winegar

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and friend.

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I I love that.

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I'm very excited to have this. I'm genuinely thrilled.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I love a disposable camera. And we need to all

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:37.919
<v Speaker 3>start buying the more so the prices will lower again.

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you about four dollars and now I

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 3>feel like they're like twenty bucks twenty one. Yeah, this

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 3>is something that used to just you know, grab one

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 3>at the grocery store that.

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 2>You can get them for ten dollars A from X

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 2>ten dollars. They're not fucking around.

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well that's where I've got to go. Maybe Costco

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 3>should start carrying them. Costco reach out. It's time to

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 3>play a game. Okay, we're gonna play a game called

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 3>After a Curse. But first I needed to number between

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 3>one and ten from you m six. Okay, I have

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 3>to do some light calculating to get our game pieces.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 3>So right now, you can recommend something, promote something, do

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want with the microphone.

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, if you like sports, I encourage you to

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>listen to the podcast that I run with my friends

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Katie Kershaw and Ten Tran. This podcast is called Jocular

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 2>get it anywhere you listen to your pod. And also,

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know when this is coming out, but I

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 2>hope you come see me on tour. You can find

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that info about tour at the link in my bio

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 2>at genderless gap ad on Instagram.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Perfect great podcast recommendation too. Ten's been on the podcast Rules.

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 3>She gave me some gorgeous bangs clip on bangs.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh I bet they looked incredible.

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 3>I look stunning. And it's a whole new media. Yeah,

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 3>everyone goes seeeer on tour. Follow them on whatever internet.

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Please sing please, please follow me please as fuck.

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 3>They were begging me off podcasts saying the numbers want

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 3>it's embarrassing.

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>It sucks. Yeah, fuck you guys. I need a million overnight.

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Someone buy them some followers. This is how we play

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 3>gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things. You're

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 3>and why, and then I'll tell you if you're right

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 3>or wrong, because there are correct answers and you can

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 3>lose this game in a big way, So care fuck okay.

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Number one This is from a listener named Gianna. Gift

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.720
<v Speaker 3>or a curse the piece of paper on ice cream cones.

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 3>It's a gift wrapper paper cone shape. It's a gift

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 3>because you don't get your hands so dirty. Interesting, it

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 3>is a gift. I love it. It's a you know,

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 3>a little extra touch that you know, shows that they

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 3>were willing to go a little further. Saves on gloves.

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 3>The employee doesn't need to wear a glove while it,

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.879
<v Speaker 3>and you could eat the little last piece of paper

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 3>if you like, and it's like a dare to yourself.

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is a good point. I don't want them

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking handing me a thing with like no little paper.

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Bear hand on my bare cone. Get away from God.

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 2>No, you just you just keep it. I didn't know

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be like this. Just keep it,

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 2>you know what.

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, absolutely a gift. You get to the end

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 3>of the cone you're ripping off, it's that satisfying crunch

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 3>of the paper being ripped and then, if you know,

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.439
<v Speaker 3>if you're still hungry, there's that little piece of paper

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 3>to eat.

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I'm not a red flag to you about

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 2>like where you're at. But red flags are helpful.

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:50.240
<v Speaker 3>They are helpful, that's why they exist. They're warnings about

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:54.319
<v Speaker 3>worse things. Come yeah, okay, okay, you've gotten one right

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 3>so far. That's incredible. Number two This is from a

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 3>listener named John Gift or a Curse while on vacation

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 3>in a different city, watching the local news in the

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 3>hotel room.

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Gift, why, I think you can figure out everything about

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the about the city from the local news, like, like

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>is the anchor hot? Because that's important. If you're if

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>you've got a hot anchor, it's a cool city. If

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 2>you're if you got a dumpy anchor, it's a dumpy

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 2>city period. Dumpy InCor dumpy anchored, dumpy city period.

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh er, I'm so sorry. It's a curve possible. You

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 3>go to these cities, you watch these incredible local news programs.

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 3>They become your friends, and then you can't access them anymore.

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 3>They're gone.

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to. You keep their hot or dumpy

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>image in your mind.

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 3>The painful memory of having to think about them. You know,

0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:59.359
<v Speaker 3>there was this local news thing in Palm Springs called

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Desert Tea two. You know, women probably in their late eighties,

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 3>that would kind of chat. I love them so much,

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 3>could never find that well there, I imagine I know

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 3>where they are and not well, but you know it's heartbreaking. Yeah,

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I need the anchors to be there for me when

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I turn on the TV.

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>So you are you are avoiding having that relationship so

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that you don't have to experience the heartbreak. Exact, gotcha?

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I understand? Okay, urning a lot.

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you just want to look into

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 3>my personality and writing it down. Okay, you've gotten one

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.359
<v Speaker 3>out of two so far. Number three this is from

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 3>a listener named Amy. Gift or a curse. A chessboard

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>painted on top of an end table.

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh, listen, I feel like this is supposed to be

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:50.839
<v Speaker 2>a gift. It's a curse. It's a curse because where

0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 2>are the pieces?

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>The thing about a chess board is that you can,

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 2>like usually bend it in half and it goes inside

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.320
<v Speaker 2>its own box or it is its own box, and

0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 2>then the chess pieces are inside. It's just a checkerboard.

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Countertime awful And was it painted? I mean it was

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 2>painting on there?

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:06.800
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no in lay?

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Maybe correct? It's a curse. I mean, I didn't even

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 3>think about the pieces. Where are you getting those?

0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Exactly what you brought? You brought them with you?

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 3>And are you using like a spool of thread?

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 2>They're no.

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 3>And also where does it end? You're putting the tape

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 3>the chessboard on the table, so you're gonna be painting

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 3>those on everything?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what happens when you get a little pawn

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<v Speaker 2>off your is there enough room on the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>the table to put the pawn down? Or do you

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<v Speaker 2>hold it after you take your opponent's pawn?

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<v Speaker 3>And where's my drink?

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<v Speaker 2>This makes me sick to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, it's a disgusting concept. It's not charming, it's not whimsical. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a pain, agony curse. You got two out of three.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt okay about that. I feel okay about that too.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't feel great about it two out of three? No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pathetic, but it's not humiliating.

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<v Speaker 3>Humiliating I think is one out of three? Zero out

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<v Speaker 3>of three is a lost cause?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Zero out of three. You made a choice to

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<v Speaker 2>be a loser.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what your life is and you keep

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<v Speaker 3>making those choices. Wow, incredible, Well, This is the final

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<v Speaker 3>segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 3>people they write into I said no gifts at gmail

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. Just ready to beg me for answers. Will

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<v Speaker 3>you help me answer a question?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this says dear bridger and humble guest, as a

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<v Speaker 3>person who can appreciate the sanctity of a backyard, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought you might have good advice to help me solve

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<v Speaker 3>my problem. I am lucky enough to live in a

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<v Speaker 3>house with a lovely garden areum. Unfortunately, whenever I am

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<v Speaker 3>enjoying the backyard, I inevitably and repeatedly catch a heavy

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<v Speaker 3>whiff of my neighbor's terry disgusting cigarette smoke. Okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>this snob, I get it from both sides. Both houses

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<v Speaker 3>to my left and right appear to be filled with

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<v Speaker 3>chain smokers who go out frequently to indulge in their

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<v Speaker 3>bad habit. It is inevitably followed by the sounds of

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<v Speaker 3>hacking and tossing loogies. How do I let them know

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<v Speaker 3>how bothersome this constant smoking is without being used as

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<v Speaker 3>a human ashtray. Do I give them some mysterious nicotine gum?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I crank up the sprinkler. Do I just wait

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<v Speaker 3>for them to die? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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<v Speaker 3>With love, Sarah. Okay, Sarah's not all these questions. Should

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<v Speaker 3>I do this? Should I do this? Should I do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah should start smoking?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly. I can't even believe she had to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so obvious, Sarah, you have to pick up smoking.

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<v Speaker 3>Any surgeon general would tell you yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And Sarah, you're the if they're on either side, you're surrounded. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you're the outlier.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a loser.

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<v Speaker 2>You're being a loser. You have to start smoking. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are gonna say it's bad for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's fucking bad for you, living every single

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<v Speaker 2>day you get older, closer to death.

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<v Speaker 3>What's bad for you is not having friends nearby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what's bad for you is having a garden that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't use because you don't smoke. God damn it, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>just like them. Wake up, Sarah, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>there all along. She goes out in the backyard. The

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<v Speaker 2>answer is just all it's in her clothes and her hair,

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<v Speaker 2>and she can already smell like you smoke. Sarah. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>at work things you smoke, enjoy it, enjoy it and

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<v Speaker 2>the fix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I feel like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no other answer to this, No, no, no, period.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants to get in a fight with the neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna send them gums, Sarah. First of all, no

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<v Speaker 2>one likes to hear it. But it's hot to smoke. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>When I gave up smoking, what I gave up was

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<v Speaker 2>access to being the hottest person on the planet. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Now, when I want to break

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<v Speaker 2>from people, I have to go outside and stand outside

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<v Speaker 2>and look like I'm just like, I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm vibing on my own thoughts. It's not true, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not honest. I'm feeling insecure, I'm feeling anxious. If I

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<v Speaker 2>go out there with a cigarette, I'm hot, mysterious, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants to be the lady who hands out Gumar.

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<v Speaker 3>Get arrested, Sarah, get real, Get in that backyard, fire

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<v Speaker 3>up the lawnmower, and start smoking. Yes, just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chopping weeds out, smoking, Do whatever you want, right, Smoking,

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<v Speaker 3>become the vibe, become the vibe, add to the vibe. Yes,

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:41.919
<v Speaker 3>get lung cancer. Yes, Ultimately, these are these are solutions. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why people write into the podcast, Sarah. If you

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<v Speaker 3>ever write in again, I am going to have an

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<v Speaker 3>absolute melting make it.

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<v Speaker 2>A real question.

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<v Speaker 3>If you write in, Sarah, it's actually difficult to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, they answered it perfect. Please. I have my

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<v Speaker 3>new flash camera. Why do I say, Well, it's called

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<v Speaker 3>the flash camera. That's their problem. It's a quick snap

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<v Speaker 3>flash camera by Fujifilm Flash for Trash, flash for true.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Wow, interesting that could be the name

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<v Speaker 3>of my foundation. Sure er, I've had such a wonderful time.

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<v Speaker 2>With you here, absolutely wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for joining me on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll take a picture with the flash camera after

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<v Speaker 3>and that will appear on the internet, probably years down

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<v Speaker 3>the road. Once I've got all these pictures, other pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of trash.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see it in twenty twenty eight. No sooner,

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<v Speaker 2>no later, don't tempt me. Thank you for being here,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener, it's time for the podcast to be over. You

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<v Speaker 3>knew it was coming. You tried to put it off

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<v Speaker 3>for as long as you possibly could, but you're not

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<v Speaker 3>in control.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ending the podcast I love you goodbye, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by

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<v Speaker 3>our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker,

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course, could only come

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<v Speaker 3>from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram at I said no gifts, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't

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<v Speaker 3>you want to see pictures of the gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>I invit? Did you hear?

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<v Speaker 1>Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,

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<v Speaker 1>your presences presence in and I'm already too much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So you dared disobey me