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Speaker 1: I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty, And.

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Speaker 2: I said, no guests.

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Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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Speaker 1: So how did you dad to surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Very quickly? The live show sold out. It's June twenty sixth.

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Speaker 3: If you still want to watch it, you can buy

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Speaker 3: a livestream at Dynasty typewriter dot com. And so you know,

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Speaker 3: if you you know, failed to buy a ticket, or

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Speaker 3: if your plane is canceled because of a blizzard or something,

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Speaker 3: dot com. Okay, now, podcast, welcome to I said no gifts.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bridger Wineger. We're in the backyard. Night is falling.

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Speaker 3: I took the rarely successful six point fifteen nap and

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Speaker 3: it worked out. I feel okay. The dishwasher is broken

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Speaker 3: beyond repair, but I do have I did get enough

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Speaker 3: points for a free chicken sandwich. So you know, when

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Speaker 3: you reach those highs, you have to accept some of

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Speaker 3: these lows, and everything kind of evens out into kind

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Speaker 3: of a dull, muted numbness. And that's fine. Let's get

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Speaker 3: into the podcast. I adore today's guest. I think they're

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Speaker 3: so fantastic. It's Erfi Master. Welcome to I said no gifts.

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Speaker 2: Hello. Oh, I'm so excited to be hearing your beautiful backyard.

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Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled to have you. And apparently you live

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Speaker 3: pretty nearby. We're neighbors. I can walk to you and

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Speaker 3: you're going to all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've been walking to you saying please put

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Speaker 2: me on the pod, please please.

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Speaker 3: Just the middle of the night. Pebble's being thrown against

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Speaker 2: Me again? Are you up.

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Speaker 3: To say me again?

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Speaker 2: In the middle of the night to someone's frightening fierce.

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Speaker 2: I think any anything that starts in that cadence is

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Speaker 2: going to be disturbing. Hey me again.

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Speaker 3: So sorry, I'm your burden. No, it's been an interesting

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Speaker 3: day for me. I woke up at five am. Why

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Speaker 3: I woke up hungry at five What is my body

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Speaker 2: Well, you're shredded. You're shredded, so it's probably making more muscles.

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Speaker 3: It must absolutely just I'm getting ripped in the middle

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Speaker 2: What do I do for a workout? Because you are shredded.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. What's it?

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Speaker 2: Does everyone know this about you?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Are you one of those workout people where they're like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I didn't start working out until twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: no shit. Yeah, it's like a small gym that like

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Speaker 3: I love that you go for half an hour afterwards,

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Speaker 3: you dry heath or I do once I threw up

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Speaker 2: So it's hit you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's is that what it's called?

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Speaker 2: It has to be. See, I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: I I'll do whatever I need to, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm like doing a lot of like joint focused stuff.

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Speaker 2: Everything we're doing vans and planes and then you know,

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Speaker 3: Give me my refund. How many cities you're going to?

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Speaker 2: We're doing nine cities. Oh wow, Yeah, we're doing nine

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Speaker 3: I'm so curious about the touring life of a musician.

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Speaker 3: It's just I mean, it seems relentless.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm only toured comedy before.

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Speaker 3: So is this your first music tour?

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Speaker 3: I just had a huge meltdown on stage. Everything we

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Speaker 2: That is true? And I and I said it to

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Speaker 2: It's not in a negative way, but nobody's irreplaceable, right that.

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Speaker 2: They're all integral. I love everything that they do. That's

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Speaker 2: And you you think about it like it's my last

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. I so the the guy who

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Speaker 3: And did you say, you know, like play something for me? No,

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Speaker 2: That's the nice part about social media is you can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did people used to do that? I guess

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love them to la buckle up. I do

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Speaker 3: What was your first instrument?

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Speaker 2: I can only write music. I can't read it at all.

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Speaker 3: Like, sure, you're just doing it tonally.

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Speaker 3: What do I have to show? Bothering my boyfriend on

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Speaker 2: That's what piano's for, is for hurting others.

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Speaker 3: It's ultimately a weapon, is the piano percussion? It should

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Speaker 2: Using one hundred percent and can they also fuck with them? Yes,

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Speaker 3: No, of all time? I like to ask musicians this.

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Speaker 2: Oh my fucking god. You know, it's maybe not my

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Speaker 2: because I heard it today. I hate Dave Matthews band. Sure,

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Speaker 3: So I guess that I'm I mean, I'm on the

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Speaker 3: I don't know that much of the Dave Matthews band music,

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Speaker 3: but it's like, it's funny how greating it is considering

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Speaker 2: I remember when they shot on those people.

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Speaker 2: Yes? What is the allowed to be mad at them?

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Speaker 3: I mean they really did like this. It's such a

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Speaker 2: That's what the concerts feel like to me.

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Speaker 3: They're all opening their mouths.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry, but it's too many concerts where people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like the blankets probably should come into

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Speaker 3: like your third chapter of your musical career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, third and final, when your.

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Speaker 2: Feels like to me, they started as blanket band.

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Speaker 3: There was never a standing no no no. They were

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Speaker 3: Kind of just appeared there and been there forever. I'm

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Speaker 3: on the same page Dave Matthews bandwise with you for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay when I have another one, and I think this

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Speaker 2: But Red Hot Chili Peppers there is one. My mom

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Speaker 2: Like just so many of those songs. I think it's

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Speaker 2: I want to end it like I want to end it.

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Speaker 2: I want it to stop. I want my life to stop.

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Speaker 2: So but those are the kind of the only two

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Speaker 3: But are they're very strong feelings.

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Speaker 2: They're soup. I mean, it's guttural.

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Speaker 2: They want to irritate you. So I don't even feel

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Speaker 2: bad about it, right, And I can still look at

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Speaker 2: understand the beautiful musical feats like Flee that you know

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Speaker 3: I think it was Julie Klausner who said the Red

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Speaker 3: was like, yes, that is exactly what's happening. They all

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure, yeah, but I just.

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Speaker 3: Don't need them playing music for me. I just don't

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Speaker 2: And there's plenty of people who disagree, and those are

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Speaker 3: And I you know, I support anybody doing anything as

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Speaker 2: Me one hundred percent. That's called tolerance. Do you have

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Speaker 2: a favorite Ish band right now? I'm on a real

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Speaker 2: Heart kick?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow? Yeah, see, I mean, I know, like the

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Speaker 2: I kind of visit bands like like chapters, and it's

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Speaker 2: been enjoying about listening to Heart is there's so many

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Speaker 2: and she's kind of like Billie Holliday where she's choosing

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Speaker 2: it's you have to study it to replicate it right, right,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I find but when you're listening

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Speaker 3: How would I've never really thought about Heart within genre?

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Speaker 3: They're not like a hair metal band? Are they just

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Speaker 3: a rock band? Is that what we would say?

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Speaker 2: They're a rock band, But they're kind of like Fleetwood

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Speaker 2: in that sense that they can do kind of that like, well,

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Speaker 2: doing like like kind of like Cynthia eighties, right, you

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Speaker 2: And then they have something like Barracuda, which is like

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Speaker 3: Undefinable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Dave Matthews, like like the all time great

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Speaker 2: Dave Matthew. Do you have a favorite band.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I have a favorite band. I A

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Speaker 3: friend texted me recently, like, what are your favorite albums?

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Speaker 3: I couldn't even really. I was like, he said ten.

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Speaker 3: So I ended up sending him this way over long

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Speaker 3: text favorite, I mean my favorite band in high school.

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Speaker 3: This is kind of horrifying, is in some ways we

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Speaker 2: But they're solid good.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're so good to Yes, I mean one

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Speaker 3: thing I'll say that Kanye West has done for me,

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Speaker 3: is be more embarrassing than we ser so people who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. He's kind of like

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Speaker 2: they went and bought homes, right, This is an honorable

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Speaker 2: thing to do when you're a band is make money

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Speaker 2: and then go buy home and be quiet for a while.

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Speaker 3: Quiet, and then vet all of your ideas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a bunch of bunch of people before they ever

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Speaker 3: Yes, get so many safeguards that you're guaranteed it won't

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Speaker 2: Goes for most of us. I think I want us

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Speaker 2: all to do our creative pursuits until we become unpleasant.

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Speaker 2: Then buy a house and just be quiet.

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Speaker 3: Silently makes your sing your song for yourself. Yes, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: Weezer was the band.

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Speaker 2: I like a lot of loud music. I like when

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Speaker 2: you work out, what's that? What do you work out to?

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Speaker 3: Whatever they have on at the gym, which is actually

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Speaker 3: a pretty decent mix of like garage rock and new

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Speaker 3: wave and like synthpop. There was a period though, when

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Speaker 3: they were playing like hardcore or like death metal covers

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Speaker 3: of like Lady Gaga and there was like screaming monster voice,

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Speaker 3: and it put me in the absolute worst mood. Possibly

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Speaker 3: I'm already mad when I'm there, I'm already like truly

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Speaker 3: angry that I'm doing and then to have like this

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Speaker 3: insane cover of Lady it.

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Speaker 2: Was like the stuff they played at.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: That's literally what they played for them is like scream metal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, not for me in any situation, let alone when

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Speaker 3: I'm like throwing like one hundred pounds over my hand.

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Speaker 2: No, oh yeah, I don't think it's supposed to be listenable, right,

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Speaker 2: that's not the intent.

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Speaker 3: What is the intent?

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Speaker 2: It's the intent is to say you're in a screen band.

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Speaker 3: That's the intent by these tattoos. You've got to do

442
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: something like yes, yeah. I feel like someone must have

443
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: complained because I was about to complain and then they

444
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: stopped playing the music. So but every day I'm like,

445
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: what if it's today's the day, and then I'm going

446
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: to be trapped in here and my life will be ruined.

447
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: If you if you were going to run a marathon

448
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: and you had to listen to one song on repeat,

449
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: what would it be oh, I would.

450
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: See. When people have started asking me music questions, I'm

451
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: trying not to just panic an answer. I say, I'm

452
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: going to think about this. I think there's a song

453
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: by the Oss called The Dream. It's about seven minutes long,

454
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 3: and it's got a nice rhythm. It's it's I think

455
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: it would be a perfect running song. It has a

456
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: mo in it that there's like a burst in the

457
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: middle of the song that I almost drive off the

458
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: road every time that comes song. I'm so excited for

459
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: it to happen because it like kind of slows down

460
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: and then erupts in this way and it's like, oh,

461
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: my entire body has become the cosmost really, but ultimately

462
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be running because I hate running.

463
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's it's a sin.

464
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: What song would you do? You know what?

465
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: Right now? It would maybe be a Chapel Rowan song.

466
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh Chapel is really I mean just blown up in

467
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 3: the craziest way.

468
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: And she's you know, she's been doing this shit since

469
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: she's like fifteen.

470
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: That's got to be so satisfying, so sad, I mean

471
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: to be.

472
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: Doing it since you're fifteen and then be twenty five

473
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: and like now finally getting attention, Like most of us

474
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: start out the thing that we're gonna happen. We're twenty five,

475
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: and then remember thirty five, we are retired.

476
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: Wow, twenty I didn't realize she was that young.

477
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a baby.

478
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: I just assume everyone's successful is older than me, I

479
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: would hope. So, yeah, I know, it's just what I hope.

480
00:23:59,320 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 3: So I get.

481
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: It's so mad when I find out otherwise.

482
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: When I'm watching the NBA now, it's always like I

483
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: have to just constantly remind myself these people are in

484
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: their twenties and like very early maybe early thirties.

485
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: Well, and the ones that look really old, early thirties.

486
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 3: Right, some of them do look aged.

487
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Yes, they're like graying and they're thirty four. I guess

488
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: that's the stress of the big place. Yes, did you

489
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: play any sports in high school?

490
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

491
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: I played volleyball and basketball, and I played a little

492
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: volleyball in college.

493
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: Oh, in college, so you must be decent.

494
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: I was decent.

495
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: Volleyball is my number one most feared sport. Why I'm

496
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: horrified fun and playing.

497
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: You are built like a setter.

498
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: Great, Yes, are the ball coming at me? I'm screaming.

499
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: I feel like it's going to hit me.

500
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: You're not athletic at all.

501
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't play any sports. I played badminton, okay, and

502
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: I played basketball in middle school and simply never scored

503
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: a point. That the pause was me trying to remember

504
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 3: what badminton was. Oh, badminton is lovely of like tennis,

505
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: the long long one. Yeah, it's like a long Uh,

506
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: it's thin. It's kind of like uh. I would say,

507
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: it's like the Virginia slim of tennis.

508
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: That makes an Is it the birdie or what I mean?

509
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a birdie or a shuttlecock I think is

510
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: probably what they call it in the Olympics. Do they

511
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: play badminton in the Olympics on the app too? I hope,

512
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: So give me something to watch. No, it's it's a

513
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: great sport because there's no heavy object that you're afraid

514
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: is going to hit you.

515
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you did make a big fuss about

516
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: that little thing hitting you, you shouldn't be playing anyway.

517
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: Right, And also everyone would get to enjoy you freaking

518
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: out about that. They should make a Challengers for badminton. Now,

519
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: that would be sexy, that would be probably That's probably

520
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: why they chose tennis. It was too erotic if they

521
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: had badminton.

522
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, badminton has been an official Olympics sport since

523
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two.

524
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: Ninety two.

525
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: Wow interest sting, Wow thirty one thirty two solid years.

526
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Ninety two feels late for badminton to be entering. It

527
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: feels like something that would have been like nineteen hundreds

528
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: or eighteen hundred or ancient Greece.

529
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: This was one of the first sports, for sure.

530
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: Well, there's something else we need to talk about. Unfortunately. Look,

531
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: I was really excited to have you here today. I

532
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: was looking forward to it.

533
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: You know.

534
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: I took a nap before so I would have the

535
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: energy to, you know, just have a great time with you. Thought,

536
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: er will come over, nothing will go wrong, my night

537
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: won't be ruined. So I was a little surprised. My

538
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: heart was pounding when I saw you walking up into

539
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: my backyard holding this gorgeous gift bag. Yes, the podcast

540
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: is called I said, no gifts right.

541
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't read that.

542
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 3: You you just got into the rest of the email

543
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: left over there.

544
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: I never read the title of an email. I kind

545
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: of don't, you know.

546
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: I famously don't use subject lines.

547
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: No the titles for the person sending it. Yes, it's

548
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: for their it's their a little art projector itself.

549
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: Get creative, it's for you. Do the subject line you

550
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 3: would love to read.

551
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's certainly not for anybody else.

552
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a perfect excuse. Uh should I open

553
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: this yere on the podcast?

554
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like to watch people open their guess.

555
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: Like everyone, Yeah, Okay, we're gonna dip into this kind

556
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: of crispy brown bag and I'm pulling it.

557
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm thrilled about this. I'm actually thrilled. It's a

558
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: disposable camera. Yeah, and let me explain.

559
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: I explain.

560
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: On your Instagram.

561
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: Okay, and I saw that.

562
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: You take all these incredibly compelling photos of trash, thank

563
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: you so much. And I thought we have to elevate

564
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: these onto film, and I just I kind of want

565
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: to see what you're capable of when you're doing it.

566
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: And you know, photography's rare, you know, the.

567
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: Raw form, they're lacking that texture, they're lacking a little

568
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: bit of grain. Yeah, this is a I feel like

569
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: it is like a recently trendy thing to get a

570
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: disposal camera. But I received one. Someone gave me one

571
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: on this podcast pre pandemic. We recorded sixteen episodes before

572
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: the pandemic crushed us, and someone gave me one and

573
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: I took a picture probably once every four months during

574
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: the pandemic, and then a month ago got them developed. Finally.

575
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: Are they incredible? I know they they're awesome.

576
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Oh this is going to sound so stupid, but there's

577
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: something about them that feels more like the memory to

578
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: me than a digital like an iPhone camera.

579
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's honest. I think that's true. Like

580
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: I think with like these, this is like a twenty

581
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: three milimeter like, oh, sure, it's like closer to what

582
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: the human eye is than your iPhone lens.

583
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: Oh is that true?

584
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes? And so when you're looking at these things like it,

585
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Actually when I don't take fucking photos on my phone

586
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: anymore because they drive me nuts, they don't ever look

587
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: like the thing, and they don't have any nostalgia attached.

588
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: And I think that because there I don't know what

589
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: the hell it is, but everything feels either long or

590
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: wide or distorted in some way. And I like how

591
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: flat film is.

592
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: It looks so beautiful.

593
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: It's like you blinked, And that is the memory you

594
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: get to keep.

595
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: Well that makes perfect sense. Yeah, I looked at those

596
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 3: and I thought, these is like twenty four photos are

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: more valuable than the last truly twelve thousand photos I took.

598
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: Yes, And then you take less photos, which I actually

599
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: like because I have one of these on me at

600
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: all times now, and you take way less photos. But

601
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: and it just takes up less. I'm not like now

602
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: I get to be pretentious about being the like when

603
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: people like take out their photo to look at something,

604
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous soft they don't understand, and I'll bring out

605
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: my little I mean, I feel like a Duevus in

606
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: my own right, like having a little disposable with me.

607
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: But it always looks fucking cool, and I don't spend

608
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 2: it like fifteen minutes like opening my camera looking at

609
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: a photo of my fucking dog and then like zooming in,

610
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: zooming in, accidentally flipping it to portrait mode, you know

611
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like there's something elegant about it, and

612
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: you really have to just think about the photo and

613
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: then it's gone. You don't have to get to you

614
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: don't get a thousand chances to take it, and if

615
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: you fuck it up, you fuck it up.

616
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: And that feels good. Yeah, you get a nice messy

617
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: picture and who cares?

618
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: Who cares?

619
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: Where do you get yours? Developed?

620
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

621
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Fromax?

622
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

623
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: What's that?

624
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: Fromax? Is this place? What's it?

625
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: Not?

626
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: Is it? Maybe Alta Dina?

627
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 3: Okay?

628
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: But you have to go to the places in the

629
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: city that are like you know, I would not get

630
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: my stuff developed at Walgreen because the Walgreen's or CBS

631
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: or anything, because I actually think they like fuck it

632
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: up somehow. I mean, I just think they do. But

633
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: these these folks, they they they not only develop the photos,

634
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: but then they digitize them for you and they send

635
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: them to you. So it's actually really relatively easy. Now

636
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: it feels like a.

637
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Ritual, right. I go to a place like that in Glendale,

638
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: near some sort of salad store, perfect Salad to Go

639
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: or something. I cannot remember the name of the photo

640
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: place sandwiched between an eye hop and a Salad to Go.

641
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: Salad to Go.

642
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that that's the name, but something

643
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: like that.

644
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: But if it is the name, what a passionless project?

645
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? Your life's stream is salad to Go.

646
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: You get married to some guy named Chris and he

647
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: owns a salad to Go franchise. Jesus Christ.

648
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: God, Now that's my goal. I'm going to get all

649
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: of my money into Salad to Go to Go.

650
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: If it was named like Crispy Greens, I could respect it.

651
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Sure you're at least thinking about the vegetable.

652
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there any opportunity to eat it in the store?

653
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: And I don't think so. Oh No, Salad to Go

654
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: is my business concept. Sharks. In front of you is

655
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: a bowl of salad. Imagine being able to take that

656
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: wherever you go.

657
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: I want one hundred percent equity for one hundred dollars.

658
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Please take this from get this out of everyone in

659
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: my life. It's kind of like, what's the tape that

660
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: you pass along and it kills people?

661
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: Tape worm?

662
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's pass along by kissing as we all know. Yeah,

663
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: you kissing cooked mouth, you will get a tape worm?

664
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Or are you talking about the one from the Ring?

665
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: The Ring? I keep I kept thinking the View, the curse,

666
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: the tape view.

667
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: Hard.

668
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: I want you very heart to get the ring.

669
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh man. I would watch an entire like spin off

670
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: where it's the ladies from the View watch the ring

671
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: and pass it around.

672
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 3: To each other, just kind of around in her.

673
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: They keep surviving because they just they keep passing.

674
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: It brought a tape in to work for.

675
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: You, one haunted tape.

676
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: You know this is a different tape.

677
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't do that to you four times.

678
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: You know how many tapes I have at home? The Ring.

679
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: That's right, it's the scariest movie of all times.

680
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: I might watch it in the last five years. No shit,

681
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: it was pretty scary.

682
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: You're lucky you watched it in the last five years.

683
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: I watched it as a child at room in my life.

684
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: Oh, that would have been a rough experience.

685
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

686
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: I it scared me as an adult, and I'm hard

687
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: to scare as an adult at this point. I'm pretty

688
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: numb to most horror films.

689
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: So it's terrifying.

690
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: That's got the little girl.

691
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: All you need is a little girl with the Japanese

692
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: water ghost. That's all you need to put in any

693
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 2: story for me. And I'm gonna be afraid.

694
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Where is she coming from?

695
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Why and why?

696
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: What's her agenda?

697
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: And of course, like we find out you know that

698
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: she gets like pushed in the well or whatever, but

699
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: we also.

700
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: Find out that evil right, so she kind of deserved her.

701
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: Her parents had to kill her because she was being

702
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: a bitch.

703
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: Get out of our lives.

704
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: Also a crazy part of that story now that I'm

705
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: thinking about that, that like, remember I think it's Nami Watts, Yes,

706
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Nami Wats is like like finding out that the little

707
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: girl is like has been killed by somebody close to

708
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: her whatever, and then she like is doing more research

709
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: and she realizes it's because the little girl's a bitch.

710
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: And that's when we're supposed to be like, oh, good, good, good,

711
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm glad she was killed. We gotta put the

712
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: fucking cover on the hot tub or the well?

713
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: Is there a hot tub in the movie?

714
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: To me, I'm realizing that wells look like hot.

715
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: If she doesn't crawl out of a hot tub at

716
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: some point, what were they doing?

717
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Missed opportunity. When we reboot this for the women from

718
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: the view, it.

719
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: Will be a hot tub and she will be so

720
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: relaxed crawling out of it, and.

721
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: She'll have combed her hair.

722
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: God, isn't there something to do with a horse in

723
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: that movie? Does a horse jump off a boat?

724
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Oh it kills itself.

725
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: It kills it stuff? Did it? Watch the tape?

726
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: It had to Yes, a fairy there's a horse on

727
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: the fair fairy and it jumps off and it like

728
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: throws itself into the blades.

729
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: Oh, another shot from on, only you have one more chance.

730
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: I brought one with exactly three bullets, which is a

731
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: frantic horse because I just saw this recently too, But

732
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: I forgot a frantic horse breaks out of its trailer

733
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: when Rachel approaches and throws itself off of a fairy where.

734
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: Oh I don't want to say this, so it's after

735
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: where it's promptly shredded by the propellers to.

736
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: Be shredded by.

737
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: But we want to know why.

738
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: It's just a frantic horse. It's just to set the

739
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: mood problem.

740
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was off.

741
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was mad. It had a bad day at work,

742
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: and it was like, I can't do another fairy ride.

743
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: Fuck shred me.

744
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely take me through a propeller. Have you ever

745
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 3: water skied?

746
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, First of all, unbelievable transition. Unbelievable. My

747
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: girlfriend in high school, her dad had a boat and

748
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: he would take us out to water ski and I

749
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: would watch him try to kill her.

750
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: But she's a little girl. From the ring.

751
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That was the energy. It is like

752
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: she deserved it, but I but when I watched it

753
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: then they would always try to get me on the

754
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: skis and I was like, no, I do it. I

755
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: see the bit. The bit is like you want people

756
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: to wipe out. I'm never going to do this. I'm

757
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: not going to do something where I'm not in control,

758
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: is what I'm learning. Of Course, if I was driving

759
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: the boat and I was the one on the skis,

760
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: sure right.

761
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: If your doppelganger was driving the boat.

762
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: If it was my twin and I could trust some

763
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: we had the same brain. But there's kind of no

764
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: fucking way I'm letting a human being do that to me. Impossible.

765
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: So you never got up on the skis.

766
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: Not a single fucking time. Fuck that shit. I've got

767
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: to get you out on the boat like a true prank.

768
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Is that sport to me?

769
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't been since I was a kid, but

770
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: want to go so bad. I don't know that it's

771
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: athletic rope.

772
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: No, it's athletic. You have to get up, you have

773
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: to get You just have to be able to be dragged.

774
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: And I can be dragged through anything.

775
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: I really do think this is kind of a thing

776
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: I've recently realized that my life feels like when you

777
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: first learn to water ski, they tell you to let

778
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: go of the rope because if you follow, you should

779
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: go of the rope because you'll just get dragged through

780
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: the water. And I feel like my entire life is

781
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: just holding onto the rope and getting dragged through the water,

782
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: just blasted in the face over and over. Please let

783
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: me get on the ski.

784
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: I'm hearing persistence, I'm hearing resilience. I'm gonna turn those

785
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: self a steak. No, you can say that, I'm gonna

786
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: say persistence, resilience.

787
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: I wish you'd go water ski. I just wish it.

788
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: Will never happen for me. There are things that I

789
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: understand that thatga of outcome far outweighs me having the best.

790
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: Time of my life being in a devilment gum commercial.

791
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I'm absolutely impossibility.

792
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: The thing for me that I won't get on ever

793
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: again is did you ever see the tube behind the boat?

794
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: Fuck that that too?

795
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: No, thank you, because that anytime anytime someone's in that,

796
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: they're trying to get you off of it exact you're

797
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: gonna get your head ripped off. Yes, yes, yes, no,

798
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't want to live in fear.

799
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: And you you really have no control when you're on

800
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: the tube. At least with the skis you can let go.

801
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: No, I heard an awful story about girl who went

802
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: water skiing and she fell in such a way that

803
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: she had a full prolapse because of a jet of water. Oh,

804
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm not like like that for me. As

805
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: you hear that story and you go and thank you

806
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: and thank you very much. You know you don't hear that.

807
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: You go, But I'm I'm I'm going to take my chances,

808
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: but I might as well give it a shot. Yeah, No,

809
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm good. Everything I have I want tucked neatly inside

810
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: still for.

811
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: Now, for now, you may have a change of heart. Yeah,

812
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: our high school bully got his hand ripped off.

813
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Jesus God.

814
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, on a fucking jet like a rope got wrapped.

815
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: I mean I should have you know, I should have

816
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 3: warned the listener.

817
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it's too late. You suck it up, enough, suck

818
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: it up, But.

819
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: These things happen. We need to know because I'm tempting

820
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: you to water ski And now I need to reveal

821
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: that I know someone got their hand ripped off.

822
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: It was it was the high school bully.

823
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: The high school bully, which is you know, it's a

824
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: hard thing to hear because you know, what, what feeling

825
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: do you have? I'm trying to have a generous heart.

826
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

827
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: But at the time, you know, it was interesting. That

828
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: can happen.

829
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to think about it forever.

830
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: And it happens to people who aren't high school bullies.

831
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, those people have not so interesting a story. But

832
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: high school bully.

833
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: Jesus, do not let things get wrapped around your hand.

834
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: That's how you don't make fun of people. That's why

835
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: someday you might have a little nub from a skiing accident.

836
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: And now now who's gonna get bullied?

837
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: And now everyone's feelings are complicated? Me. Yeah, that's why

838
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: I don't wear a metal ring to the gym, because

839
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: I to anywhere, because I know someone And again, graphics story,

840
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: I know someone who got their ring caught on a

841
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: fence and ripped their fingers.

842
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: What are these people doing?

843
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 3: What's happening in my life?

844
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: Why were they climbing?

845
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: The factbeah, I'm the ring.

846
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: Ah.

847
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: I think it was like in mid elementary school or something,

848
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: you know, climbing fences in elementary school and what And

849
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: then I was wearing a metal ring once putting the

850
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: dishes away, and a fork got caught in the metal

851
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: ring and I said, never again. Yeah, no, thank you.

852
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine you've got the disposal. You imagine horror.

853
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to the hospital?

854
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got. I got a really bad concussion

855
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: when I was like thirteen. I fell like ten feet

856
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: straight onto my head on cement. I heard from what

857
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: everything I was standing on like the back of a chair,

858
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: balancing on the back of a chair, and my friend

859
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: H kicked it out because that would be funny. You know,

860
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: when your friend of lopes not developed, You're like, that

861
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: would be funny. And I found and I didn't catch

862
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: myself with my hands or my back or anything because

863
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: I fell so fast and I split from the back

864
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: of like the nape of my neck.

865
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: Up to the front of Oh my god.

866
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: But the grossest part, listener, is that my skin didn't break,

867
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: and so there was just a bunch of bleeding. A balloon.

868
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 2: It was a fucking balloon.

869
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: This podcast has become very violent recently.

870
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: We brought up that fucking little girl from the ring.

871
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: I know what happened to her. By the way, this

872
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: is yes, bring her up anywhere if you if you're

873
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a kid and a bitch.

874
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: Kind of scam, he's a scam.

875
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna end up in a while. That's nobody's fault

876
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: but yours.

877
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: And suddenly you're hosting the view.

878
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say it. It's nobody's fault, yours.

879
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: Ah wow, that's uh so, what like what did they

880
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: do to repair you?

881
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: Well? I was put in like a little three day

882
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: coma and then I wasn't allowed to do activities for

883
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: a while.

884
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: But my.

885
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Basketball coach I came it was like, this happened in

886
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: the summer, And I told my basketball coach at the

887
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: end of summer when was started, it was like, I'm

888
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: not allowed to technically start like doing anything for the

889
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: next like month and a half. And he was like,

890
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: then you won't be on the team, and I was like, well,

891
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: yes I will. And so I just got back into it. Wow. Yeah,

892
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: And now they did tell me that it would interfere

893
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: with like rage and because of where I hit it,

894
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: and let me tell you it did in what way?

895
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: I it like truly, I had a very like angry

896
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: and depressed teenage years, but like in a very like

897
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: not always connected to things. Oh fascinating, Yeah, but that's subsided, yes, yeah,

898
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: I yeah, the older I get them more like mitigated

899
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: it is. But it was like, certainly up to fifteen

900
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: years afterwards, it was like quick quick, quick to rage,

901
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: could not get down from it?

902
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: Could the same thing happen and make you happy? Quick to?

903
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: I mean yes, because I was reading a book about

904
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: music lovers, like it's I think it's called like music

905
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: Aphelia or whatever, and they're people that I've had like

906
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: really traumatic brain injuries or near death experiences. They some

907
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: of them come back and they can write and compose music. Oh,

908
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: never having done it before. That's like that's magic, magic magic,

909
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: like completely like beautiful mysticism, like will make you listen

910
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: reading this book of like it will make you believe

911
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: in God, Like it's just like crazy, but it is

912
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: like that a part of their brain was affected and

913
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: it turned on specifically music. It's a whole book of

914
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: people that had this happened to them. So you're like, yeah,

915
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: there there are atter ways to get your head.

916
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Injured, right, look for those ways when falling off a

917
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: chair yeah, did your friend learn a lesson?

918
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: I was at a I was at a private high

919
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: school and my uh, my friend was there on scholarship,

920
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: and so I did not ever tell on my friend.

921
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: And so my friend, my friend and I never talked

922
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: about her anything. I just we did each other a

923
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 2: solid and we're like, never.

924
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Brought it up. And wow, now the principal's going to

925
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: hear this podcast and we're sinned there, and I agree.

926
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: I hope they go back and find him and his

927
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: last name is.

928
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Take that diploma. Yeah, rip it off his parents wall exactly.

929
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: Shame on you.

930
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Wow, that's very generous of you.

931
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: Snitches get stitches in their spirit.

932
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a very pro snitch podcast. We

933
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: love a.

934
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Snitch, okay, and that's fair.

935
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: I love a rat. Yeah, I love someone who just

936
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: can't keep a secret to themselves.

937
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a gemini, so me.

938
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm afraid I probably would snitch. I feel like I

939
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: would be a snitch. Yes, you know, we all have.

940
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: To be honest with about who we are. And I'm

941
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm I ain't no snitch, but they're definitely I have

942
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: definitely shared secrets I was not supposed to.

943
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's fair. You know, it's so much fun hard.

944
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: It feels great, yes, you, and then the feeling goes

945
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: away and you have to do it again.

946
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you gotta get that hit.

947
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: Just divulging secrets all over time.

948
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. One big, one big personal

949
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: secret a year that is not in any way yours

950
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: to share. And yeah, you're gonna have some shame. Yes,

951
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna have some gal it's gonna eat you. You're

952
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: gonna be worried about. Oh God, is the person I

953
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: tell being responsible with it like I was supposed to be. Still,

954
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: it's worth every every minute.

955
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: Do you like gossip?

956
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, me too.

957
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: I just love to spread the news.

958
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's a beautiful thing.

959
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: It's such a special thing.

960
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: Yes. And obviously any anybody who doesn't like gossip I

961
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: find very irritating. They're like when people are like, uh,

962
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: you know, let's talk about something positive, I'm like, this

963
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: is positive. It's making me happy. We're connecting right now

964
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 2: over something salacious.

965
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: It feels so good.

966
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: What's more positive than that?

967
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know you're learning and maybe it's edifying

968
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: you in some way. You're you'll look out for those

969
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: people or you know.

970
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: The excuse you can tell yourself is that sometimes when

971
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: you're gossiping about others, if you're doing it quote unquote empathetically,

972
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: you're building out your understanding of them in your mind

973
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: so that you can treat them with more empathy.

974
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: Exactly.

975
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Like I know that someone's so cheated on his wife,

976
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: and he he must have done that, because.

977
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, And we as a community,

978
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 3: as many of us as possible, need to know this, Yes,

979
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: so that we can support him and her. We need

980
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: to be there for both of them.

981
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: Yes.

982
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: No, I love gossip, but I like, I mean, it's

983
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: been a real uh drought since the beginning of the

984
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: pandemic and then zoom. People aren't working in the same

985
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: rooms as much anymore, so you don't get quite as much.

986
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been a really hard time for for

987
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: gay people.

988
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been extremely hard. That's why I'm going back

989
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: to church for the gossip.

990
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a little bit more punishment. Yeah, you

991
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: wrote for I hope this makes you happy. You wrote

992
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: for me Schman, Oh yeah, of course, and loved it.

993
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: I would you know, argue like obviously one of the

994
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: top three comedies of all time when I I was

995
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: like showing my comedies to my partner because she's not

996
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: like super She just like did not grow up with

997
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 2: these genre just was like not a big comedy person,

998
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: and I was trying to get her in to comedy.

999
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: And Kimmy Schmidt was the first show I thought of.

1000
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: I felt so lucky to work on that show. It's

1001
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: I mean, to work for those people was wonderful. It

1002
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: felt like going to the Olympics.

1003
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: It was crazy. Because I loved thirty Rocks so much,

1004
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: I've been working on Kimmy was just wonderful. I have

1005
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: a small I'm in Kimmy. I play a gay.

1006
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: Swat guy unbelievable who like is.

1007
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: Brought onto dish with Kimmy's friend.

1008
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: So you get to do that because you're shredded.

1009
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: I said, who else here is shredded? We did kind

1010
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: of an office witch hunt about who's shredded?

1011
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is?

1012
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: Now? This was pre media ever lifting a weight, so

1013
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: I was at the time very scrawny. Wow, you know

1014
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't lift a pencil. Now I can lift two

1015
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: paper clips. Yeah, Kimmy Schmid, I really adored that show.

1016
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I feel like there aren't that many

1017
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: real laughy comedies.

1018
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: Now, no, and not not. I'm I mean Kimmy is

1019
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: like a joke every fifteen seconds.

1020
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. To be able to like miss jokes and then

1021
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: have to go back to hear them unbelievable.

1022
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1023
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: You could rewatch the show so many times.

1024
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jane Krakowski everybody, and it's wonderful. What a show.

1025
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: Um?

1026
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: Do we have anything else to say about cameras before

1027
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: we move on?

1028
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: I really sincerely hope that you do take some trash

1029
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: picks on this.

1030
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to take a total of twenty seven pictures

1031
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: of twenty six because we need to get a shot together.

1032
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yes, we'll take one and that will still

1033
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: be trash, and that will be absolute garbage. That'll be

1034
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: the worst of all of them. And then I'll get

1035
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: them developed at some point and then they'll appear on Instagram.

1036
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure we're in a book and I'll do the

1037
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: pic coffee table book. Why don't I have a coffee

1038
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 3: table book?

1039
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, because people are sleeping on you.

1040
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: My manager is not doing her job, name her. I

1041
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: have a proposal, get me a publisher. I have so

1042
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: many pictures of trash, say er sent to you. Yes,

1043
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: you can write the forward. Oh please, oh my god,

1044
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: and then you'll be in the author bio. We'll use

1045
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: this photo as the yes. Yes, yeah, pictured Bridger Winegar

1046
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: and friend.

1047
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: I I love that.

1048
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: Yes.

1049
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm very excited to have this. I'm genuinely thrilled.

1050
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: I love a disposable camera. And we need to all

1051
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 3: start buying the more so the prices will lower again.

1052
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you about four dollars and now I

1053
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: feel like they're like twenty bucks twenty one. Yeah, this

1054
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: is something that used to just you know, grab one

1055
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: at the grocery store that.

1056
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: You can get them for ten dollars A from X

1057
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: ten dollars. They're not fucking around.

1058
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's where I've got to go. Maybe Costco

1059
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: should start carrying them. Costco reach out. It's time to

1060
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: play a game. Okay, we're gonna play a game called

1061
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: After a Curse. But first I needed to number between

1062
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: one and ten from you m six. Okay, I have

1063
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: to do some light calculating to get our game pieces.

1064
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 3: So right now, you can recommend something, promote something, do

1065
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: whatever you want with the microphone.

1066
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you like sports, I encourage you to

1067
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast that I run with my friends

1068
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: Katie Kershaw and Ten Tran. This podcast is called Jocular

1069
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: get it anywhere you listen to your pod. And also,

1070
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know when this is coming out, but I

1071
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: hope you come see me on tour. You can find

1072
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: that info about tour at the link in my bio

1073
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: at genderless gap ad on Instagram.

1074
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: Perfect great podcast recommendation too. Ten's been on the podcast Rules.

1075
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: She gave me some gorgeous bangs clip on bangs.

1076
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: Oh I bet they looked incredible.

1077
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 3: I look stunning. And it's a whole new media. Yeah,

1078
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: everyone goes seeeer on tour. Follow them on whatever internet.

1079
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: Please sing please, please follow me please as fuck.

1080
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: They were begging me off podcasts saying the numbers want

1081
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: it's embarrassing.

1082
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: It sucks. Yeah, fuck you guys. I need a million overnight.

1083
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: Someone buy them some followers. This is how we play

1084
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things. You're

1085
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse

1086
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: and why, and then I'll tell you if you're right

1087
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: or wrong, because there are correct answers and you can

1088
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: lose this game in a big way, So care fuck okay.

1089
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: Number one This is from a listener named Gianna. Gift

1090
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 3: or a curse the piece of paper on ice cream cones.

1091
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: It's a gift wrapper paper cone shape. It's a gift

1092
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: because you don't get your hands so dirty. Interesting, it

1093
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: is a gift. I love it. It's a you know,

1094
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 3: a little extra touch that you know, shows that they

1095
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: were willing to go a little further. Saves on gloves.

1096
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 3: The employee doesn't need to wear a glove while it,

1097
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 3: and you could eat the little last piece of paper

1098
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: if you like, and it's like a dare to yourself.

1099
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good point. I don't want them

1100
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: fucking handing me a thing with like no little paper.

1101
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: Bear hand on my bare cone. Get away from God.

1102
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: No, you just you just keep it. I didn't know

1103
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: it was going to be like this. Just keep it,

1104
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: you know what.

1105
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, absolutely a gift. You get to the end

1106
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: of the cone you're ripping off, it's that satisfying crunch

1107
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: of the paper being ripped and then, if you know,

1108
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 3: if you're still hungry, there's that little piece of paper

1109
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: to eat.

1110
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm not a red flag to you about

1111
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: like where you're at. But red flags are helpful.

1112
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 3: They are helpful, that's why they exist. They're warnings about

1113
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: worse things. Come yeah, okay, okay, you've gotten one right

1114
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: so far. That's incredible. Number two This is from a

1115
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: listener named John Gift or a Curse while on vacation

1116
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: in a different city, watching the local news in the

1117
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: hotel room.

1118
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: Gift, why, I think you can figure out everything about

1119
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: the about the city from the local news, like, like

1120
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: is the anchor hot? Because that's important. If you're if

1121
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: you've got a hot anchor, it's a cool city. If

1122
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: you're if you got a dumpy anchor, it's a dumpy

1123
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: city period. Dumpy InCor dumpy anchored, dumpy city period.

1124
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: Oh er, I'm so sorry. It's a curve possible. You

1125
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: go to these cities, you watch these incredible local news programs.

1126
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: They become your friends, and then you can't access them anymore.

1127
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: They're gone.

1128
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: You don't need to. You keep their hot or dumpy

1129
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: image in your mind.

1130
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: The painful memory of having to think about them. You know,

1131
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: there was this local news thing in Palm Springs called

1132
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: Desert Tea two. You know, women probably in their late eighties,

1133
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: that would kind of chat. I love them so much,

1134
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: could never find that well there, I imagine I know

1135
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: where they are and not well, but you know it's heartbreaking. Yeah,

1136
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: I need the anchors to be there for me when

1137
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: I turn on the TV.

1138
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: So you are you are avoiding having that relationship so

1139
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: that you don't have to experience the heartbreak. Exact, gotcha?

1140
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 2: I understand? Okay, urning a lot.

1141
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if you just want to look into

1142
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: my personality and writing it down. Okay, you've gotten one

1143
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 3: out of two so far. Number three this is from

1144
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: a listener named Amy. Gift or a curse. A chessboard

1145
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: painted on top of an end table.

1146
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: Uh, listen, I feel like this is supposed to be

1147
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: a gift. It's a curse. It's a curse because where

1148
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: are the pieces?

1149
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: Like?

1150
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: The thing about a chess board is that you can,

1151
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: like usually bend it in half and it goes inside

1152
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: its own box or it is its own box, and

1153
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: then the chess pieces are inside. It's just a checkerboard.

1154
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: Countertime awful And was it painted? I mean it was

1155
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: painting on there?

1156
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: No?

1157
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: No, no, no in lay?

1158
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: Maybe correct? It's a curse. I mean, I didn't even

1159
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: think about the pieces. Where are you getting those?

1160
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: Exactly what you brought? You brought them with you?

1161
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: And are you using like a spool of thread?

1162
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: They're no.

1163
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: And also where does it end? You're putting the tape

1164
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: the chessboard on the table, so you're gonna be painting

1165
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: those on everything?

1166
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what happens when you get a little pawn

1167
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: off your is there enough room on the edge of

1168
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: the table to put the pawn down? Or do you

1169
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: hold it after you take your opponent's pawn?

1170
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: And where's my drink?

1171
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: This makes me sick to think about.

1172
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: Ultimately, it's a disgusting concept. It's not charming, it's not whimsical. No, no, no,

1173
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: it's a pain, agony curse. You got two out of three.

1174
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: I felt okay about that. I feel okay about that too.

1175
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: You can't feel great about it two out of three? No,

1176
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: it's it's pathetic, but it's not humiliating.

1177
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: Humiliating I think is one out of three? Zero out

1178
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 3: of three is a lost cause?

1179
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Zero out of three. You made a choice to

1180
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: be a loser.

1181
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what your life is and you keep

1182
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: making those choices. Wow, incredible, Well, This is the final

1183
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails

1184
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: people they write into I said no gifts at gmail

1185
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: dot com. Just ready to beg me for answers. Will

1186
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: you help me answer a question?

1187
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: Of course?

1188
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 3: Okay, this says dear bridger and humble guest, as a

1189
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: person who can appreciate the sanctity of a backyard, I

1190
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: thought you might have good advice to help me solve

1191
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: my problem. I am lucky enough to live in a

1192
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: house with a lovely garden areum. Unfortunately, whenever I am

1193
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: enjoying the backyard, I inevitably and repeatedly catch a heavy

1194
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: whiff of my neighbor's terry disgusting cigarette smoke. Okay, wow,

1195
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: this snob, I get it from both sides. Both houses

1196
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: to my left and right appear to be filled with

1197
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: chain smokers who go out frequently to indulge in their

1198
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: bad habit. It is inevitably followed by the sounds of

1199
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: hacking and tossing loogies. How do I let them know

1200
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: how bothersome this constant smoking is without being used as

1201
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: a human ashtray. Do I give them some mysterious nicotine gum?

1202
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: Do I crank up the sprinkler. Do I just wait

1203
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: for them to die? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1204
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: With love, Sarah. Okay, Sarah's not all these questions. Should

1205
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: I do this? Should I do this? Should I do this?

1206
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: Sarah should start smoking?

1207
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. I can't even believe she had to ask.

1208
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: It's so obvious, Sarah, you have to pick up smoking.

1209
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: Any surgeon general would tell you yes.

1210
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: And Sarah, you're the if they're on either side, you're surrounded. No, no, no,

1211
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: maybe you're the outlier.

1212
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: You're a loser.

1213
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: You're being a loser. You have to start smoking. A

1214
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna say it's bad for you.

1215
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's fucking bad for you, living every single

1216
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: day you get older, closer to death.

1217
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: What's bad for you is not having friends nearby.

1218
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: Yes, what's bad for you is having a garden that

1219
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: you can't use because you don't smoke. God damn it, Sarah,

1220
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: just like them. Wake up, Sarah, I mean it was

1221
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: there all along. She goes out in the backyard. The

1222
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: answer is just all it's in her clothes and her hair,

1223
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: and she can already smell like you smoke. Sarah. Everyone

1224
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: at work things you smoke, enjoy it, enjoy it and

1225
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: the fix.

1226
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like that.

1227
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean that.

1228
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: There's no other answer to this, No, no, no, period.

1229
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: She wants to get in a fight with the neighbors.

1230
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna send them gums, Sarah. First of all, no

1231
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: one likes to hear it. But it's hot to smoke. Okay.

1232
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: When I gave up smoking, what I gave up was

1233
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: access to being the hottest person on the planet. You

1234
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Now, when I want to break

1235
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: from people, I have to go outside and stand outside

1236
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: and look like I'm just like, I don't know, like

1237
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm vibing on my own thoughts. It's not true, it's

1238
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: not honest. I'm feeling insecure, I'm feeling anxious. If I

1239
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: go out there with a cigarette, I'm hot, mysterious, Sarah.

1240
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: She wants to be the lady who hands out Gumar.

1241
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: Get arrested, Sarah, get real, Get in that backyard, fire

1242
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 3: up the lawnmower, and start smoking. Yes, just you know,

1243
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: chopping weeds out, smoking, Do whatever you want, right, Smoking,

1244
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: become the vibe, become the vibe, add to the vibe. Yes,

1245
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 3: get lung cancer. Yes, Ultimately, these are these are solutions. Yes,

1246
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: that's why people write into the podcast, Sarah. If you

1247
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: ever write in again, I am going to have an

1248
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: absolute melting make it.

1249
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: A real question.

1250
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: If you write in, Sarah, it's actually difficult to answer.

1251
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: Oh boy, they answered it perfect. Please. I have my

1252
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: new flash camera. Why do I say, Well, it's called

1253
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: the flash camera. That's their problem. It's a quick snap

1254
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: flash camera by Fujifilm Flash for Trash, flash for true.

1255
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Wow, interesting that could be the name

1256
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: of my foundation. Sure er, I've had such a wonderful time.

1257
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: With you here, absolutely wonderful.

1258
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me on the podcast.

1259
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1260
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: And we'll take a picture with the flash camera after

1261
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 3: and that will appear on the internet, probably years down

1262
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: the road. Once I've got all these pictures, other pictures

1263
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: of trash.

1264
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: I want to see it in twenty twenty eight. No sooner,

1265
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: no later, don't tempt me. Thank you for being here,

1266
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It was fun.

1267
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: Listener, it's time for the podcast to be over. You

1268
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: knew it was coming. You tried to put it off

1269
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: for as long as you possibly could, but you're not

1270
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: in control.

1271
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: I am.

1272
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm ending the podcast I love you goodbye, I said,

1273
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by

1274
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 3: our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by

1275
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker,

1276
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course, could only come

1277
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 3: from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

1278
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: on Instagram at I said no gifts, I don't want

1279
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see

1280
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 3: pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't

1281
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: you want to see pictures of the gifts.

1282
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: I invit? Did you hear?

1283
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me,

1284
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,

1285
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: your presences presence in and I'm already too much stuff,

1286
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: So you dared disobey me