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There are still some places 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: on Earth where the culture is sufficiently different from ours 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: or from yours, that you can no longer sort of 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: trust your instincts that you don't intuitively know how to 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: behave and how to get around. Maybe you don't know 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: what people are saying, and you can't read the street signs, 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: and things just seem to work differently. The street food 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: has weird eyeballs in it. Worth looks like it's fried scorpions. Hey, 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: maybe it is. Well, that's the experience physicists have when 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: we discover that the rules of the universe are totally 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: different from what we are familiar with. That's exactly the 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: feeling we're going for, and that's the feeling we get 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: very often when we travel to the quantum realm. Hi. 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist and I'm one half 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: of the dynamic duo known as Daniel and Jorge, hosts 53 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: of this podcast, Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe, brought 54 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: to you by iHeartRadio. My co host today, Jorge Cham 55 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: can't be with us, so I'll be talking to you 56 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: myself about the amazing secrets of the universe. This podcast 57 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: is dedicated to revealing truths about the universe, to taking 58 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: things that seem amazing and mystifying that maybe you've heard 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: about or people talk about when they want to sound smart, 60 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: but you never really understood well. We are here to 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: break it down and make sure you can walk away 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: actually understanding it. You can talk about it like an 63 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: intelligent person. So if you have questions about what you 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: heard today, please send them to us to questions at 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Daniel and Jorge dot com. It is our goal that 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you actually understand everything we are talking about and hopefully 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: may maybe even get a chuckle along the way. Since 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: it's just me today, will probably have fewer jokes than usual. 69 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: It's often whorehe that injects the humor into these conversations. 70 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: So we're little humans. We're here on Earth, and we're 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: used to a certain kind of experience. We used to 72 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: things a certain size and moving at a certain speed. 73 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: But the universe is a big place, and there are 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: lots of things out there that are not like our experience, 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: that are really big or moving really fast. And what 76 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: we've learned as humans is that most of the universe 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: is different from what we expected, and that it follows 78 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: rules that are different. And when we try to understand 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the universe, the things that are not 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: balls rolling down planes, or how water flows down a hill, 81 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: then we need to do something mentally difficult. We need 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to do some sort of extrapolation. And that's the job 83 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of physics is to take us from the known into 84 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: the unknown, to say, well, we understand how these things 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: happen here on Earth. Can we also understand how the 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Earth moves around the sun. Can we understand the origins 87 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of the universe? Can we peel back layers of reality 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: and see how things are built underneath? And in order 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to do that, we have to describe things we haven't 90 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: seen in terms of things that we have seen. We 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: talk about particles, and we like to describe them as 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of like waves and kind of like little spinning balls, 93 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: because those are familiar mental constructs. Those are things we understand, 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: so we can talk to each other about them. It's 95 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: like if you drink a new wine and you try 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: to describe it to your friends and you say, oh, 97 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: it has flavors of oak and maybe BlackBerry. It's a 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: way to describe things that you don't know in terms 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: of things that you know. It's a basic mental strategy 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: for understanding things. But what happens when you run into 101 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: something fundamentally different, something unlike anything you've seen before, something 102 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: where all of your mental constructs fail or are limited 103 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: when our experience has just not prepared us for something. 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: That's the topic of today's podcast. Can we ever understand 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: quantum mechanics? And before we dive in, I want to 106 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: give a music shout out to Casey Hagman who sent 107 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: in that alternative question in music. Thank you very much. 108 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: We loved it. And quantum mechanics is one of the 109 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: most difficult things for people to grasp, one of the 110 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: most intimidating topics because people feel like it just can't 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: make sense to them, and they hear eminent scientists, researchers, philosophers, 112 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: physicists talking about quantum mechanics as if they don't understand 113 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: it either. And it's true, there's a lot left to 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: be understood about quantum mechanics. Folks like Sean Carroll talk 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: about it very intelligently, and there's lots of lively discussion 116 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: about what quantum mechanics really means. But I want to 117 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: talk about something simpler, just what does quantum mechanics say? 118 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: What have we learned about the universe via quantum mechanics? 119 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: Is it possible for us to develop an intuition to 120 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: understand quantum mechanics? Is will it always forever be foreign 121 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: to us? Or can we become comfortable with it? Will 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: we by spending enough time in it? By thinking, is 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: it possible that by spending enough time marinating in these 124 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: concepts and thinking about them in the right way, that 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: we could eventually become familiar with them, sort of the 126 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: way Chinese might seem impenetrable to a Western person at first, 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: but you spend enough time there and it becomes part 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: of your brain. Your brain develops sort of new ways 129 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: of thinking, new patterns, new ideas flow through it, so 130 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: that the new language and the topics and the strategies 131 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and the tones of that language eventually become familiar. They 132 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: become how you think. So the strategy there, of course, 133 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: is emergent. You don't learn a new language effectively by 134 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: learning vocabulary and studying it in the classroom. The best 135 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: way I've always found really learned to speak a new language, 136 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: to think in a new language, is to spend time 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: doing it. Is to go to that country and be 138 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: part of those people and be there and use that 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: as part of your life. And that's how your brain works. 140 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: So our strategy today for helping you understand quantum mechanics 141 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: is not to give you the mathematical basics, but to 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: spend some time in the quantum realm until we develop 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: an intuition for how it works. But before we go there, 144 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to know what people understood about quantum mechanics, 145 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and also whether they thought they understood quantum mechanics. Is 146 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: quantum mechanics something that everybody out there feels like is 147 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: impossible to understand? Or are most people under the impression 148 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: that they have it figured out. I walked around campus 149 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: that you see Irvine, and I asked people if they 150 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: thought they could understand quantum mechanics. Before you hear these answers, 151 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: think to yourself, how good is your grasp on the 152 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: basic tenets of quantum mechanics. Do you feel fluent? Can 153 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: you explain this stuff? Do you feel like you can 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: navigate that strange quantum realm. Here's what people on the 155 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: street that you see Irvine had to say. Do you 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: feel like you understand quantum mechanics? 157 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: No? 158 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 5: Not really. 159 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: Anyone who answers yes to that doesn't really have an 160 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: understanding of quantums. 161 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: So no, very Basically I have working knowledge of quantum mechanics, 162 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 5: but I would not say that I understand it at 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 5: the level of a PhD physicist. 164 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: I say, I understand it decently well. 165 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the double slit experiment. 166 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 4: Yes, showed that particles. I think those electrons that they use, 167 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: they move in waves. So if you were to fire 168 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: the electrons and observe them, they'd only go on like 169 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: a line. But then if you cover it, you could 170 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: see a wave like pattern in the back or something 171 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 4: like that. 172 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 6: I honestly don't even know about quantum mechanics. I'm just 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 6: the dual nature of light. 174 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: It's both a wave and a particle. 175 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: So as usual, we've got a very nice breadth of 176 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: answers from people who felt like they hardly understood anything 177 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: about quantum mechanics to people who clearly had some working knowledge. 178 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: So that's great, and we're hoping to bring everyone who 179 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: listens to this podcast up to at least the very 180 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: basic level of being able to intelligently think about and 181 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: understand quantum topics. And I think the best way to 182 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: start off is to hear a listener question. Here's a 183 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: question from a young listener. 184 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: Hi, Daniel len Joge. 185 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 6: My name is Robin, and I would love to know 186 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 6: what the key difference is between quantum than classical mechanics are, 187 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: and to what extent they agree with each other. 188 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: This is a great way to start, because classical physics 189 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: is what we're familiar with. Classical physics is what describes 190 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: how basketball moves, or how rocks roll down hills, or 191 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: how things move in the atmosphere, things that we are 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: familiar with that we have spent hundreds or thousands of 193 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: years developing an intuition for things that probably our brains 194 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: have evolved to be good at understanding, so that in 195 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: some way they are natural objects to our mental worlds. Right, 196 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: So the question really is what's the biggest difference between 197 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: the classical world and the quantum world. What is it 198 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: when you go to the quantum world that you can 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: no longer assume that is obviously true in the classical world. 200 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,479 Speaker 1: The basic difference between classical objects and quantum mechanical objects 201 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: is that quantum mechanical objects do not have a path. 202 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: They don't have a trajectory through space, a well defined 203 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: set of where they were at any given time. That's 204 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: the key lesson I want you to come away from 205 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: today's podcast. So let's talk about what that means if 206 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: you have a baseball and it's at one location now 207 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: and ten seconds later it's across the baseball field. You 208 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: imagine that it went from where it was to where 209 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: it is now. You say, well, if it was over 210 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: there before and it's over here now, how did it 211 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: get there. It must have gone between those two locations. 212 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: You have two pieces of data, and you naturally interpolate 213 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: because you make this assumption that a classical object has 214 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: a location at every time, and that you can stitch 215 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: those together into a path that traverses space time in 216 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: some continuous way. And you might be thinking, well, of 217 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: course everything does. Everything has a location at a given time, 218 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: and only one location. But that's an intuition you've developed 219 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: from experiencing the natural world, from playing baseball, or from 220 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: being chased by people throwing rocks at you. You're used 221 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: to things moving through the world in a responsible and 222 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: understandable way, so you've made this assumption. Quantum objects do 223 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: not have paths like that. They don't have locations that 224 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: translate through time. For a quantum object, like an electron, 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: you can measure it at one location A and then 226 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: later measure it at another location B. But it doesn't 227 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: mean that it's flown through the universe from A to 228 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: B in that intervening time. It can be at A 229 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: later be a B. But it's not true that it's 230 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: moved from A to B, meaning that if you made 231 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: a measurement halfway, you would have found it going from 232 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: A to B. Now that's very confusing, that's very hard 233 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: to understand. How can an object be here and later 234 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: be there and never be in between? And the reason 235 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: is that quantum objects are just different from the classical objects. 236 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: They are not the same kind of thing. And this 237 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: assumption that you have made about the universe comes from 238 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: only experiencing classical objects things on our scale, but the 239 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: smaller level, the universe just does not work that way. 240 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: That's pretty hard to digest. But don't worry. There are 241 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: things at the quantum realm which do follow your intuition 242 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: in which you can use to help understand and develop 243 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: an intuitive sense of the universe, and that's the quantum 244 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: wave function. So how does the quantum object work, Well, 245 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: a quantum object is here and later it's there. What 246 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: determines that It's not like quantum objects don't follow the 247 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: laws of physics. And you probably know the quantum objects 248 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: could also be random, that you can do the same 249 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: thing to a quantum object twice and get different outcomes. 250 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: And that's true. All those things are true, But the 251 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: quantum object is ruled by something, and that's this quantum 252 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: wave function. You don't have to know a lot of 253 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: complicated math. All you need to know is that the 254 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: wave function tells you where a quantum object is most 255 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: likely to be. You probably have heard that electrons don't 256 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: have a specific location, that have a probability cloud around 257 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: an atom. That's an extrapolation of the wave function. The 258 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: wave function tells you where the electron is most likely 259 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: to be. If it's large over here, it's more likely 260 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: to be there. If it's small somewhere else, it's less 261 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: likely to be there. If it's zero somewhere, it means 262 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: the particle cannot be there. Where is the particle actually 263 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: we don't know, and there's a lot of discussion about 264 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: whether the wave function means the particle isn't actually anywhere 265 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: or just we don't know where it is. But we 266 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: do know that. Quantum mechanics says that that information does 267 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: not need to exist, that it's not necessarily the case 268 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: that there's hidden knowledge that the electron is actually somewhere 269 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: and we don't know. So the best way to think 270 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: about the wave function is that it's physics saying what's 271 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: allowed and what's more likely, And this wave function is 272 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: what we can grab onto, what we can understand because 273 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the wave function does follow rules, and the wave function 274 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: has a path that makes sense. It flows from one 275 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: spot to the other. It doesn't just disappear and appear 276 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: somewhere else. So you have to let go of your 277 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: intuitive desire to understand the path of an of an electron, 278 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: the path of a qu object, because those things don't exist. 279 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: But instead, when you let that go, you can grasp 280 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: on to the next layer. The next layer is this 281 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: wave function, the thing that determines where the electron is, 282 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: the thing that determines where the electron is likely to 283 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: be somewhere else. And that's the key thing. Is that 284 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: the wave function tells you where the electron is, and 285 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: it responds to stimulation, it responds to the world, and 286 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: it flows just like a wave. And you can use 287 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: that you can understand how that wave flows through time 288 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: to understand where the electron is likely to be in 289 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: the future. Even if the electron itself doesn't have a 290 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: path from A to B. Its wave function does. So 291 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: the key to being comfortable with quantum mechanics is to 292 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: get comfortable with the object's wave function rather than the object. 293 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, So the best way to learn a new 294 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: language is to get practice, is to immerse yourself in it. 295 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: So the next thing we're going to do is a 296 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: bunch of exercises of diving into the quantum realm and 297 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: being comfortable with the wave function, understanding how it flows. 298 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: And to do that, we're going to explore in some 299 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: tail the famous double slit experiment that shows us the 300 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: crazy behavior of quantum mechanics. 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All right, so we are talking about 352 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: quantum mechanics and we're trying to get an intuitive GRAPD 353 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: but quantum mechanics, we want not just that you say 354 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: things about quantum mechanics that sound intelligent. We want to 355 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: actually get an understanding how do things work at the 356 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: lowest level, What intuition do we have that we can apply. 357 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: And the key thing again, remember, is the wave function. 358 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: You have quantum mechanical objects like electrons and protons and photons. 359 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: They are difficult to describe using our classical ideas of 360 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: balls and objects that move through space because quantum objects 361 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: don't have paths. Instead, we're going to focus on their 362 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: wave function, the thing that says where they are likely 363 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: to be, and we're going to understand how that wave 364 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: function changes through time. And we're going to grab onto that. 365 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: Instead of having a classical path for the object, we're 366 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: going to understand how the wave function changes through time, 367 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: because that's the thing that's most like a classical path. 368 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: All right, so we're going to start very simple, and 369 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: we're going to work up to more complicated situations. Imagine 370 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: that you are a photon. You are a tiny little 371 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: quantum particle, and you're shot out of a laser with 372 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of your friends towards a screen. What happens, Well, 373 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: you leave the laser right later you hit the screen. 374 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: Does that mean that you flew through the room from 375 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: the laser to the screen. Not necessarily, right, You do 376 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: not have a classical path. Just because you left the 377 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: laser and later hit the screen doesn't mean you have 378 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: a trajectory. Doesn't mean that you necessarily can be found 379 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: in between things in the quantum realm. Don't go, however, 380 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: your wave function does. When you are created inside the laser, 381 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: just at the aperture of the laser, your wave function 382 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: says where you're likely to be, and then your wave 383 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: function flows through the room. If it isn't interacting with everything, 384 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: it just flows nicely through the room, showing the most 385 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: likely place to find your location. This is not the 386 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: same as having a classical path. This is sort of 387 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: the path of your wave function. Then it hits the screen, 388 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: and the screen essentially measures it. It says okay, wave function 389 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: where is this photon. That's the moment when the universe 390 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: has to decide. Instead of having a probability distribution about 391 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: where you are, it says, where is this actual photon? 392 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: So you have two measurements, when you leave the laser 393 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and when you hit the screen. What happens in between 394 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: we don't know, but the wave function tells us, given 395 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: that you've left the laser, what's the likely place to 396 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: land on the screen. And then when you land on 397 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: the screen, the universe rolls a die and says where 398 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: you actually are. Okay, that's easy. Now let's do the 399 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: experiment again. A bunch of photons flying out from a 400 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: laser towards a wall. Let's bring in some black walls 401 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: so that instead of having a totally clear path of 402 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: the screen, you have sort of a narrow gap, not 403 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: too small, you know, a few inches. So what's going 404 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: to happen, Well, some of the photons that leave the 405 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: laser are going to go right through that gap and 406 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: hit the screen, just like before. Some of them are 407 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: going to hit the walls that block a fraction of 408 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the laser, and so on the screen behind. What you'll 409 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: get is sort of a geometric shadow places where the 410 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: photon made it through the gap. You're going to hit 411 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: the screen at the back places where they hit the 412 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: walls that we introduced to make this little gap. They're 413 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: going to hit those walls and they're not going to 414 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: make it to the screen, all right. So instead of 415 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: having just the laser splash on the back screen, now 416 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: we have something called a geometric shadow. Geometric because it 417 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: has crisp edges and it follows the shape of the 418 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: thing that the laser went through. No big deal. Now, 419 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: let's narrow the gap. Let's squeeze those two walls that 420 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: confine the laser to very very small, something like hundreds 421 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: of nanometers approximately the wavelength of light that's going through it. 422 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: Now what we see on the back wall changes. Instead 423 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: of seeing a geometric shadow, what we see is sort 424 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: of a spray of light. The light is spreading out 425 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. It doesn't just become as narrow as 426 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: the gap it's shining through. It spreads out a little bit. 427 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: This is a wave effect. It happens anytime a wave 428 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: passes through a slit that's narrow compared to its wavelength. 429 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: We could do a deep dive on diffraction and maybe 430 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: we will in a future podcast. But it's not critical 431 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: to understand here. The only thing you need to understand is, 432 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: at anytime a wave meaning sound or light, or bathtub 433 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: splashes or wave functions pass through a narrow slit, they 434 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: spread out a little bit. You can do the same 435 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of experiment in a bathtub. If you send water 436 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: waves through a very narrow gap. You notice that when 437 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: they come out of that gap, they spread out, they 438 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: don't just shoot out in a narrow column. All right. 439 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: So now we have a very narrow gap, and on 440 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: the backscreen we have a sort of a spray of results. 441 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: We have a spray, not just a very narrow geometric shadow. 442 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: We have a spray of results with a light can land, 443 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: all right. And now we're going to make a second 444 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: narrow gap. So we have sources of light in the 445 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: back maybe lasers, maybe flashlights, it doesn't matter, and they 446 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: shoot light out, and then we have two narrow gaps 447 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: for the light to fly through, and so we have 448 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: light coming through both of those gaps towards the wall. 449 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: What do you see on the backscreen? You might think, oh, 450 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I have two copies of what I saw when I 451 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: had one narrow gap, because now I have two narrow gaps, 452 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: so how hard can this be? That's not quite true. 453 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: What you see is an interference pattern. An interference pattern 454 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: is what happens when two waves collide, because remember that 455 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: waves are an oscillation. For example, if you have waves 456 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: in your bathtub, those waves are just the motion of 457 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: the water moving up and down. They're not their own thing. 458 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: They're a motion of the water. Same way sound waves. 459 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: These sounds that I'm making into the microphone that you're 460 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: hearing in your earbuds or wherever you're listening, those are 461 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: oscillations of the air. The air itself is shaking, and 462 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: because it's the shaking of a medium, if something else 463 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: comes along and shakes it in another way, that shaking 464 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: can interfere, and you can have two kinds of interference. 465 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: You can have constructive interference two things are shaking it 466 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: the same way, so you get sort of double shaking. 467 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: Or you can have destructive interference, where two things are 468 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: shaking it in the opposite way and they cancel each 469 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: other out. For example, this is how noise canceling headphones work. 470 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: They very rapidly hear the noises that are around you 471 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: and emit exactly the right sound. To cancel out the sound, 472 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: you can create sound which will negate the other sound 473 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: by shaking it the opposite direction, So when the two 474 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: shakings add up, they add up to zero. So this 475 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: is an interference pattern, places where things add up to 476 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: be stronger and places where things can cancel each other out. 477 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: If you look on that screen, what you'll see is 478 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: a very bright band in the middle where the two 479 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: sources of light from the two narrow gaps are adding 480 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: up on top of each other, and just to the 481 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: left of it is a dark band, a band where 482 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: the things are canceling each other out. And as you 483 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: move along the screen you get bands of light and 484 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: bands of dark, bands of light and bands of dark, 485 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: and the exact width of those things depends on the 486 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: wavelength of the thing that's interfering with itself. Now you're 487 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: probably thinking, oh, well, the light is a wave, right, 488 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: and if light is a wave, it makes perfect sense 489 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: for light to interfere with itself the same way sound does, 490 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: and the same way waves in your bathtub night. That 491 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: intuition makes sense, But unfortunately that is not what it's happening, 492 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: and the next experiment reveals that it's something much weirder, 493 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: much more fascinating, which reveals the true quantum nature of light. 494 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: So we have two narrow gaps and we're shining light 495 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: through both gaps, and we see an interference pattern on 496 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: the backscreen, and we think, well, that's fascinating. I bet 497 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: it's because light is interfering. That light is coming through 498 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: both gaps, and when it comes out the other side, 499 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: either it adds up constructively we get a bright patch, 500 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: or it cancels itself out and we get a dark patch. 501 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: So now let's do an experiment to discover if that's 502 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: actually true. What we're gonna do is we're gonna dial 503 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: down the source of the light. Maybe we had a laser, 504 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: maybe we had a flash light. It doesn't matter too much, 505 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: but let's turn down the source of the light. And 506 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: as we talked about in a podcast very recently, light 507 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: is not continuous. It's not just the smooth oscillations of 508 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: the electromagnetic waves. Light is made of packets, and those 509 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: packets are photons. So you can't actually turn a light 510 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: down to any arbitrary value. You have to turn down, 511 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: for example, one photon a second, or two photons a second, 512 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: or three photons a second. You can't have one point 513 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: five photons a second. But what we can do is 514 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: something really fascinating. We can turn the light down, so 515 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: we're shooting out one photon at a time, maybe one photon, 516 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: and then you wait five seconds you shoot out another photon. 517 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: The idea is that one photon has had plenty of 518 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: time to go through the whole experiment before the next 519 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: photon comes through. Now, if the interference comes from light 520 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: coming through both of those narrow gaps and then interfering, 521 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: then the interference pattern should vanish when we slow the 522 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: experiment down to one photon at a time. Because there's 523 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: only one photon in the experiment at a time, there's 524 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: no other photon to interfere. That's what you would expect 525 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: if the interference pattern came from the interference of the 526 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: light waves. But it doesn't, because what happens when we 527 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: do this experiment is that we still get an interference pattern. 528 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: I remember learning about this in college and it blew 529 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: my mind. You shoot one photon at a time, one 530 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: photon goes here, another one goes there. And remember, quantum 531 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: mechanics is random, so there's a wave function for each photon, 532 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: and that wave function says the probability of any given 533 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: photon going somewhere, But two photons shot in exactly the 534 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: same direction under the same conditions don't have to land 535 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: in the same place. The universe throws a new quantum 536 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: number for every photon, so the first one might land 537 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: here and the next one might land there. And what 538 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: you do as you do this experiment, which now takes 539 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: longer because you're shooting a lot of individual photons, what 540 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: you see is that you very gradually build up the 541 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: interference pattern again. You get a lot more photons landing 542 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: where the interference pattern was bright, and you get no 543 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: photons landing where the screen was previously dark, and you 544 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: get a few landing where the screen was a little 545 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: bit bright. So the photons follow this interference pattern. It's 546 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: like for each one it says, all right, well, we 547 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: got to have a bunch over here and a few 548 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: over there and none over there, so let's roll a 549 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: down and see where you're gonna go. And eventually you 550 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: just build up exactly the same pattern that you saw before. 551 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: So how is that possible? How is it possible to 552 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: have an interference pattern if you don't have two photons 553 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: in the experiment at once. What is doing the interfering. Well, 554 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: the problem with this thinking is that you're thinking of 555 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: the photons as flying through the experiment. But remember, they 556 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: don't have quantum paths. These things exist when they leave 557 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: the light source and then they exist when they hit 558 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: the screen. But in between they don't necessarily have a 559 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: location that we can think about sensibly. But what they 560 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: do have is a wave function. So instead of trying 561 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: to follow the photon through the experiment and making sense 562 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: of it, let's follow the wave function. That's the thing 563 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna grab on to and try to make sense 564 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: of things that with something that we can actually understand. 565 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: So let's start from the beginning. The photon is shot 566 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: out from this laser or this flashlight whatever, and has 567 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: a certain wave function to be there. Now, the wave 568 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: function fly across the room and it spreads out a 569 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: little bit because that's the source of the light, and 570 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: then it hits the wall, the wall that has two 571 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: narrow gaps in it. Then what happens, Well, nobody's made 572 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: a measurement yet. The photon is interacting with this wall, 573 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: but nobody's looking. Nobody's asked where is the photon? So 574 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: it has fifty percent chance to go through one slit 575 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: and fifty percent chance to go through the other slit. 576 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: So what happens when the wave function hits the wall? 577 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: And remember it's okay to talk about the wave function 578 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: moving through space. The wave function has a path that 579 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: we can think about. So when the wave function hits 580 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: the wall, it splits in two. Half of it goes 581 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: through one slit and half of it goes through the 582 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: other slit. And that reflects the fact that the photon 583 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: itself has a fifty chance of hitting one slit and 584 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: a fifty percent chance of hitting the other slit. And 585 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: if nobody has asked which split did it go through, 586 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: it just has fifty percent chance of going through one 587 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: and a fifty percent chance of going through the other. Now, 588 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: let's follow the wave function. The wave function comes out 589 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: the other side of these slits, and there's a little 590 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: bit of source of wave function from one slit and 591 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: source of wave function of the other slit. And a 592 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: wave function, of course, is a wave. So what happens 593 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: when you get two sources of a wave coming up 594 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: from the wall towards the screen, of course, you get 595 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: interference and so on the screen what's actually happening is 596 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: that the wave function is interfering with itself, and it 597 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: gives the photon a high probability to be in some 598 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: locations and a low probability to be in other locations, 599 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: and a zero probability to be in some locations. So 600 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: for the wave function, it determines where that photon, that 601 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: individual photon that we put into our experiment is likely 602 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: to land. And so the thing that's doing the interfering 603 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: is not light because you have a single photon in 604 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: the experiment at once. And if you're not convinced that 605 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: this is the wave function interfering, because you think maybe 606 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: it's really just light interfering, wouldn't that be simpler. But 607 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: remember that we're sending a single photon through a time 608 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: in order to prevent the photons from interacting, from interfering 609 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: with each other. But the real killer is that they 610 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: did this experiment not with photons, but later with electrons 611 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: and they got the same result. But what's doing the 612 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: interfering is the wave function. Another way to think about 613 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: it is that the photon has equal probability to go 614 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: through one slit and the other, and that probability is 615 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: doing the interfering because remember, the wave function is what 616 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: controls where the particle has a probability to be, so 617 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: because it has a probability to be through slit one 618 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: and through slit two, those probabilities interfere with each other, 619 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: and those probabilities determine where the photon can land on 620 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: the backscreen. And that's what we see, and that's why 621 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: it builds up one at a time because for photon 622 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: number one, it follows that distribution and the universe rolls 623 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: a die only when it gets to the backscreen. That's 624 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: when we're measuring it. That's when we're interacting with it. 625 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: That's when we're saying, okay, photon, where are you? So 626 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: remember that the quantum wave function determines where you are 627 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: most likely you the photon are most likely to be found. 628 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: And there are parts of the screen where the photon 629 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: has a high chance of landing because the wave function 630 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: interferes constructively and places on the screen where has no 631 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: chance of landing because the two halves of its wave 632 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: function are interfering with each other destructively, they're canceling each 633 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: other out. And you might be thinking, well, is the 634 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: wave function of physical thing? Is it just a tool 635 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: we're using to calculate things, or is it something that's 636 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: real and part of the universe. That's a hard question 637 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: to answer. It's philosophical, But here we're seeing real physical 638 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: effects of the existence of the wave function. The wave 639 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: function really does act like a wave, and a wave 640 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: that you can grasp on, a wave that you can 641 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: use your intuition to understand. You can think of this 642 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: wave function the same way you think of waves and 643 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: water flowing through things and diffracting and interfering and doing 644 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: all those wavelike things. And this is the key to 645 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: understanding quantum mechanics, is grabbing onto the wave function because 646 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: it flows and it moves just like a classical wave. 647 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: It's just that it determines the performance and the behavior 648 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: and the location of a crazy quantum object. So while 649 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: that sinks into your brain, you're understanding your classical intuition 650 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: for the quantum wave function and how a single photon's 651 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: wave function can interfere with itself to give you this 652 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: crazy pattern on the screen. While that's in your mind, 653 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break before we think about the last, 654 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: the craziest, the most amazing part of this double split experiment. 655 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: Just after this break. When you pop a piece of 656 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: cheese into your mouth or enjoy a rich spoonful of 657 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Greek yogurt, you're probably not thinking about the environmental impact 658 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: of each and every bite, But the people in the 659 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: dairy industry are. 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It is not a tiny spinning ball, It 700 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: is not a wave. It is neither. It is both 701 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: into something new and weird that possibly we will never understand. 702 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: But in my view, the best chance to understanding it 703 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: is to spend time with it, to develop an intuition 704 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: by immersion. So that's what we're doing today. We are 705 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: flying our way through experiments conducted by a physicist trying 706 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: to reveal the true nature of the universe. So we 707 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: started out just shooting photons against the screen to get 708 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: familiar with the idea that the photons don't move from 709 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: one side of the screen to the other. They have 710 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: a probability to be in a certain place where they 711 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: only exist where they are measured and in between. They 712 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: do not necessarily have a path. You measure something, you 713 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: see the photon coming out of the light source and 714 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: later you see it on the screen. Doesn't mean you 715 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: can draw a straight line between those and say the 716 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: light was here. But what you can do is talk 717 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: about its wave function. The wave function leaves the light 718 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: source and later hits the screen where eventually the universe 719 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: demands a measurement, and so the universe has to decide 720 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: based on where the wave function is, where to actually 721 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: put the photon. Wave function is something you can grasp, 722 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: something you can follow through space in a way that 723 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: your intuition will be satisfied with. So then we added 724 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: these barriers, so instead of just splashing light on the 725 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: back screen, we saw a geometric shadow. Then we narrowed 726 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: the barriers until we saw the effects of waves. We 727 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: saw the fact that waves coming through a very narrow 728 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: gap will spread out a little bit. And then we 729 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: added a second narrow gap, so we had two sources 730 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: of waves, and those waves apparently were interfering, and your 731 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: intuition was suggested that maybe it was light doing the interfering, 732 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: because we like to think of light as a wave. 733 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: But then we played a trick. We said, let's slow 734 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: down the experiment, only shoot one photon at a time. 735 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: And this in theory if light was a wave and 736 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: it was waves doing the interacting, this should destroy the 737 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: interference pattern because only one photon was going through the 738 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: experiment at a time. But it didn't. It slowed down 739 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: the interference pattern and it showed us that there was 740 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: still something there doing the interfering. And that's the key 741 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: is letting go of this idea that the light is 742 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: flowing through the experiment because quantum objects don't flow, they 743 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: don't go, they don't they don't have paths. Instead, what's 744 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: flowing through the experiment is the quantum wave of the photon, 745 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: and the quantum wave of the photon can go through 746 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: either slit as a fifty percent chance to go through 747 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: one and a fifty percent chance to go through the other, 748 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: and then it interferes with itself. It gives us this 749 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: interference pattern, and it's hard to get your mind around 750 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: what it means for the photon to have a chance 751 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: to go through both slits at once. Most likely you 752 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: think of it like this. You think, well, the photon 753 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: either went through one slit or the other. We just 754 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: don't know. And it's true that often in science and 755 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: in physics, we use probability to describe our lack of knowledge. 756 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: We say the universe is thirteen point eight billion years 757 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: old plus or minus one hundred million, and it reflects 758 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: not the fact that the universe doesn't have a specific age, 759 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: but just the fact that we don't know it well 760 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: enough that we haven't been able to measure it. But 761 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: this is different. Not true that the photon went through 762 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: one slit or went through the other and we just 763 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: don't know. The truth is that its wave went through both. 764 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: It needed to go through both in order to give 765 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: us the interference pattern. Remember, we didn't collapse the wave, 766 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: We didn't interfere. We didn't interact with the photon when 767 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: it's going through the slit. We just let it fly 768 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: through one slit or the other. We don't pay attention. 769 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: We only are looking at the backscreen. So let's dig 770 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: into that. Let's try to probe that. What if we 771 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: try to figure out which slit the photon actually went through, 772 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: because we are a hardcore classicist and we want to 773 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: know did it go through one or the other? So 774 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: we build a little detector detector that doesn't change the 775 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: direction of the photon in a measurable way, but just 776 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: tells us whether a photon went through a slit, and 777 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: we attach it to one of the slits, and we 778 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: do our experiment again. And the idea here is just 779 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: to confirm our intuition, our classical intuition, that the photon 780 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: went through one slit or the other. We turn on 781 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: the experiment again. We shoot one single photon at a time, 782 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: and for every photon, our detector tells us whether it 783 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: went through Slit one because it beeps, or whether it 784 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: went through slit two because it doesn't beep. Do we 785 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: get the same result on the back screen. The answer 786 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: is we do not. We do not get the interference 787 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: pattern on the back screen. Instead, what we get are 788 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: two geometrical shadows. And at first this might be nonsensical. 789 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: You might think, well, but the detector is just telling 790 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: you whether the photon went through one or the other. 791 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: It's not changing the photon in any measurable way. What's 792 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: the issue? How could it possibly change what we're seeing 793 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: on the back screen. But that's because you're thinking about 794 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: the photon as having a path it's flying through. When 795 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: you think, well, it either went through one slit or 796 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: the other. It doesn't matter. If I know that shouldn't 797 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: change what happens. It's like if you're watching a horse race, 798 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 1: just watching what happens around the first bend shouldn't change 799 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: who wins the race. Right, Well, that's not the case 800 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: because remember, what's flying through your experiment is not a photon. 801 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: Photons don't fly through things. They're not classical objects with 802 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: paths fly yeing through the experiment is a quantum wave, 803 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: and the quantum wave is sensitive to being watched. When 804 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: you watch a quantum wave, when you interact with it, 805 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: when you say, okay, quantum wave of this photon, where's 806 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: the photon now, then it changes it it collapses and 807 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: it says, okay, the photon is here, and then the 808 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: quantum wave can continue. But you've narrowed it down. You 809 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: pinned it down and said, okay, it's right here, and 810 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: then the quantum wave continues from that location. So, in 811 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: the first scenario, when we didn't have the detector, the 812 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: quantum wave flies, it hits the two slits, and it 813 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: splits in half, and some of the quantum wave goes 814 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: through both slits. Each slit emits some portion of the 815 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: quantum wave, and those two halves interfere with each other. 816 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: In the version where you have the detector on, then 817 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: you're asking the universe to decide which slit the photon 818 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: went through, not just to reveal, but to decide which 819 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: slit the photon went through. So the quantum wave can 820 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: only go through one of the slits and not the 821 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: other one. Because the detector tells you which slit it 822 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: went through, it has no probability to go through the 823 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: other slit, So all it can do is then emit 824 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: some quantum wave from one of the slits. If you 825 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: hadn't looked, then it's free to emit quantum wave from 826 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: both slits, which can then interfere. But if you look, 827 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: if you demand an answer, if you want to know 828 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: which slit it went through, then the quantum wave can 829 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: only emit from the other slit and then there's no 830 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: interference pattern. It's just like as if you had one slit. 831 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: And this is the thing that blows most people's minds 832 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: that asking questions of the universe changes the answer. And 833 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: it's true because quantum waves respond to measurement. They like 834 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: to be uncertain. They're happy to fly through the universe 835 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: keeping their uncertainty their probability distribution until they are asked 836 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: and that moment that you ask it, then it collapses 837 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 1: and it says, the photon is here, the photon is there. 838 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: So this is an object we can grasp onto because 839 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: it helps us understand how things move through the universe, 840 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: but also is something new and something weird and something 841 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: we have to get familiar with. But the only way 842 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: to do that, of course, is to spend some time 843 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: with it. So I hope that's helped you understand a 844 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: little bit about quantum mechanics. The first step in becoming 845 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: familiar with the quantum realm is to abandon your idea 846 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 1: of a quantum path, that things have to move through 847 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 1: the universe in a continuous manner, that if you're over 848 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: here and later you're over there, that you have to 849 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: have somehow moved from one to the other. But instead 850 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: instead of grabbing onto this quantum path, there is something 851 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: else you can grab onto, this quantum wave function which 852 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: behaves in very understandable ways, and we have equations that 853 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: govern exactly how it moves. And those equations, like the 854 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: Shrodinger wave equation, treat these things like waves. Waves that 855 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: we can understand that we can actually apply our wave 856 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: like intuition too. So if you want to develop an 857 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: intuition for quantum mechanics, get cozy with the wave function. Now, 858 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 1: the wave function, of course, has other mysteries, mysteries that 859 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: continue to confound us, and the biggest one is this 860 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: business about measurement. How is it the wave function knows 861 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: to collapse that We've asked it a question and it's 862 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: given us an answer that when the wave function hits 863 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: the screen, it says, the photon has various probabilities to 864 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: be in various locations. But then it actually makes a decision. 865 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: When does the universe decide to roll this dice and say, 866 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: all right, photon number seventy four, you are over here, 867 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: but to number seventy eight, you are over there. That 868 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: is a deep and recurring mystery of quantum mechanics that 869 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: nobody really knows the answer to this description I've given 870 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: you today. Is sometimes known as the Copenhagen interpretation of 871 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: quantum mechanics, and it has deep flaws in it. Flaws 872 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: like who's doing the measuring? You might ask, for example, 873 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: if the photons hit the screen but nobody looks, if 874 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: there are no humans in that universe, no scientists to 875 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: do the observing, then does the universe collapse the way 876 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: of function, or does it keep it vague. We don't 877 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: know the answer to that question because we can't do 878 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: the experiment in which nobody looks and also know the answer. 879 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: So that's frustrating, and that's the sort of a lot 880 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: of discussion about quantum mechanics. And there are other interpretations 881 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: out there, like the Many Worlds in interpretations that clever 882 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: people like Sean Carroll find much more natural, but they 883 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: require you to accept the existence of a huge number 884 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: of other alternative universes. So every interpretation of quant mechanics 885 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: comes with some sort of cognitive load. And today we're 886 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: not going to understand all of the nuances and open 887 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: questions of quantum mechanics. We just wanted to spend some 888 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: time becoming familiar with the quantum realm. So the next 889 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: time you read about quantum mechanics, or think about quantum computers, 890 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: or even just are on a trip somewhere weird and unusual, 891 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: remember you can become familiar with something strange, something out 892 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: of your experience, as long as you spent enough time 893 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: immersing in it, marinating in the mathematics and the logic 894 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: of it, and eventually it would become part of who 895 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: you are. Thanks for listening to this explanation of our 896 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: amazing and crazy and totally bonkers universe. 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