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Speaker 1: Good morning sweet. Then Welcome to the Not Dungs Podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, July twenty third, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. We're here in the Classic Factory. I'm j E. Skeets,

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Speaker 1: COVID Free baby, and next to me my nominee to

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Speaker 1: be the next Vice President of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: The Beard One, Trey Kirby, Heyo, hey yo, and over

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Speaker 1: Yonder making the Magic Happen. Super producer jd Hello, Darius,

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Speaker 1: thanks for using that corn cold open. Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a good one. My kids recognized him right away.

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Speaker 3: Who is he? He's a guy. He's that's his thing.

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Speaker 3: He goes around and he smells stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the corn, the way it's piled up

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Speaker 3: Ground and it's steaming. Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's great.

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Speaker 3: But he goes around, he smells people. He'll like try

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Speaker 3: describe it to them and they'll be like, I'm not

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Speaker 3: wearing anything in your face. I don't know. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: didn't know that. He's a character.

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Speaker 1: He's the corn guy to me. No tassy here. For

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Speaker 1: most of this week. He is on vacation with his

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Speaker 4: I'd rather be delayed for four hours than four days.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody here in Atlanta. Our city is

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how happy I was that we

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Speaker 1: Like, I legit, like get the sweats just thinking about

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Speaker 3: Know, Well, it would have been fine because we would

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Speaker 1: And if there's any city to be in where your

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Speaker 1: That's not all that exciting? All right? On today's show,

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Speaker 4: You thought the second apron was going to be the

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Speaker 1: Came down to it, they said, Lebron, go to the hoop.

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Speaker 4: Point shooting variants. Like I thought South Sudan in the

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Speaker 1: Germany. I thought they just played great basketball. They know

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Speaker 1: Because this I don't feel like Team USA has played

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Speaker 4: They played a lot of great ten minute quarters when

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Speaker 4: Embiid had his best game against Germany. They needed a

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Speaker 1: He was just doing stuff. He seems to be working

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Speaker 1: sometime today. Put my vote in for Katie Leadecki.

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Speaker 4: Okay, can you nominate somebody that's not on your team? Like,

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Speaker 4: you know, could Steph Curry nominate Caleb Dresser if you

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Speaker 4: wanted to illove the way that guy swims in the pool.

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Speaker 1: He's so fast, fifty yard free.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think so it's pretty weird though.

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Speaker 1: It'd be a little weird. I keep thinking about, like,

437
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Speaker 1: from what we know, this opening ceremony is, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be on the river, it's going to be on

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Speaker 1: the scent. So Lebron won't have to walk right, like

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Speaker 1: he's going to be on a boat. Wave away flag,

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Speaker 1: so less taxing on the old man.

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Speaker 4: It's good, right, Yeah, that's why they didn't want her.

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Speaker 1: To carry it. That's what I want to know. Curry's

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Speaker 1: video nominations, Like this is a perfect time. The old

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Speaker 1: man won't have to walk, you know, laps around the

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Speaker 1: stadium and all that and stand on his feet for hours.

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Speaker 1: We'll have him on a boat. Then we can get

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Speaker 1: cinnhim in a chair. I'm getting get tired, man, like

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Speaker 1: my grandpa the mall and Jada, you said that before

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Speaker 1: we went live, Like these these flag bearers, if they

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Speaker 1: are indeed on boats, which we think they are, they

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Speaker 1: better be waving that flag like there's no tomorrow because

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Speaker 1: you got no walking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, you got to be like yeah going out

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Speaker 3: and he got the wind helping you.

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Speaker 1: Total.

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Speaker 3: I don't want I just don't want to say him

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Speaker 3: like an in a fishing, you know, like a fishing

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Speaker 3: with the pole.

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Speaker 1: There's not even holding it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like, hey, he's got a glass of wine,

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Speaker 3: you know, but he is in France. But still, wow, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought about that. Yeah, yeah, you're not really a flag

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Speaker 1: bearer at that point.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're just near You're.

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Speaker 1: Just near it exactly.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, all of this to say, we have a

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Speaker 1: hoodie to wear, I would say, while you're watching the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of the Olympics, this Friday, it's the debut

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Speaker 1: episode of the Summer of Champions Our Olympics podcasts, Our

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Speaker 1: Daily Olympics podcasts, hosted by me, my wife Nora and

478
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Speaker 1: of course JD. And we are going to do this

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Speaker 1: nightly around seven o'clock Eastern Time, recapping the day that

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Speaker 1: was so the first one on Friday, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all about the opening ceremonies. Excellent lots of thoughts I'm

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Speaker 1: sure from Nora on boats and mainly probably costumes.

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Speaker 4: See say, wearing jeans, jeans, water.

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Speaker 3: Is it still Ralph Floren? Yeah, yeah, just phoning in

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Speaker 3: at this point.

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Speaker 4: Blazer and jeans for the opening ceremony and like Nascar

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Speaker 4: outfits for the clothes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw, It's basically what Canada. I saw. I

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Speaker 1: was wearing Lulu Lemon. Yeah, very comfortable at Leisure Laura.

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Speaker 4: Today, my wife asked me, what do you think Nora

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Speaker 4: is gonna call skeets.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna call me fill a million times. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we'll just like have to like just throw out.

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Speaker 3: You should just be filled for the I mean, I

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Speaker 3: you sleep.

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Speaker 1: We already have a lot of fun. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be an insane show. We're gonna pop champagne bottles. Nora's

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Speaker 1: gonna teach us JD a French word every day. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of trivia. We're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: the gold silver bronze, you know, stories of the day

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. So like, I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a blast every night here. So Summer Champions will live

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Speaker 1: here in the No Dunk's YouTube feed and podcast feed.

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Speaker 1: So join us live every night for your Olympic fix.

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Speaker 1: You should just swing by one night. I will, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just chop, I'll come buy some uh some day.

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Speaker 4: When I had some thoughts on trampolining, Yeah, yeah, trampolining

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Speaker 4: fun one to watch.

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Speaker 1: I watched a D two The Mighty Ducks sequel yesterday.

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Speaker 4: That's my new favorite team USA. It's all based around

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Speaker 4: the Junior Goodwill Games. Oh yeah, they by coach Gordon

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Speaker 4: bomb Bay like a four and a half million dollar

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Speaker 4: condo in l a for coaching men's or I guess

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Speaker 4: it's not even men's.

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Speaker 1: Team, it's just the hockey team. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So if I could get me a Russ Tyler Hendrix

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Speaker 4: team USA Jersey, I'd be all set. But for now

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Speaker 4: I'll settle for this beautiful note duk.

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Speaker 3: I shouted out Kirsty Gilmore, Scottish and badminton player. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: our man Peter Sokins was listening to the show and

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Speaker 3: told her about it. So our shout out on this

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Speaker 3: show reached the ears of Kirsty Gilmour in Scotland. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty happy about it now.

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Speaker 1: I did see somebody right before we went live in

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Speaker 1: a YouTube comment on that show. They were a little

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Speaker 1: upset that you picked of all the countries, you picked Scotland.

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Speaker 1: Because the person was upset, like, I don't believe Scotland

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Speaker 1: is actually its own country in the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Are they not? Well?

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Speaker 1: They said? They're under the Great Britain. Okay, umbrella. I

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Speaker 1: didn't fact check that before this happened, like a minute before.

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Speaker 1: They were so upset, they were literally so angry, so

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Speaker 1: I almost had to believe that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well you always have to believe passion.

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Speaker 1: That's all right. Did we have an answer to that?

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Speaker 1: Too hard to figure? It is right to figure out

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Speaker 1: what the Commonwealth he I can promise you this. On

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Speaker 1: the Summer of champions we're gonna tell you whether Scotland

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Speaker 1: is its own.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have that lock down.

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Speaker 1: You gonna have that on the first show. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we will because we're gonna see, hey, does Scotland have

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Speaker 1: a boat? We got a boat on the man. That's

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Speaker 1: a great point. Yeah, we'll find out. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get into some NBA win totals because the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four twenty five season, it's yeah, it's three months away still,

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Speaker 1: but never too early to start thinking about and looking

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Speaker 1: at these win totals. Bet MGM is posted win totals

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Speaker 1: for twenty eight of the thirty NBA teams ahead of

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Speaker 1: next season. We're gonna tackle these by each conference. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with the East now, the reigning champion Boston

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Speaker 1: Celtics have the highest win total for next season at

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Speaker 1: fifty eight and a half. They are one of eight

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Speaker 1: teams with a win total of more than fifty games.

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Speaker 1: I will read these very quickly for the podcast listener.

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Speaker 1: Hawks thirty five and a half, Celtics fifty eight and

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Speaker 1: a half, the Nets nineteen and a half, Hornets twenty

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Speaker 1: nine and a half, Calves forty six and a half,

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Speaker 1: Pistons twenty four and a half, Pacers forty six and

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Speaker 1: a half. The Bucks one of those teams over fifty

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Speaker 1: at fifty one and a half, Miami eat forty four

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Speaker 1: and a half, Nicks fifty three and a half. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the line's been that high for New York

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Speaker 1: since ninety seven ninety eight, Orlando forty seven and a half,

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Speaker 1: the Sixers and all their improvements fifty two and a half,

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Speaker 1: my Raptor's thirty and a half, the Wizard's twenty two

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Speaker 1: and a half, and the Chicago Bulls bet mgm. Hey,

568
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Speaker 1: they just didn't want to include a line for them.

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Speaker 1: It was very weird, now, I know. I saw it

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Speaker 1: other you know sports books, they are thirty and a half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember you had said that, like they were just

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Speaker 1: like the Raptors, but bet MGM doesn't have them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for god, I mean like they could trade Levine,

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Speaker 4: they could trade Vucevich, but it's just as likely they

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Speaker 4: come back to Chicago. It's like, I feel like Cleveland

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Speaker 4: is more likely to make a trade than the Bulls are.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll get to the Western Conference. The Jats

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Speaker 4: are in the same spot. They seem like a team

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Speaker 4: that might make a trade. I don't know, and give

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Speaker 4: the Bulls one.

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Speaker 1: This team is weird. It's totally like, what does bet

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Speaker 1: MGM know about the Bulls? But they're not putting that

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Speaker 1: line up. But anyway, Okay, so fourteen of the fifteen

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference teams. We're not going to go through every

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Speaker 1: team on this podcast. I'm sure we'll do that later

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Speaker 1: in the summer we get closer to the season, but

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, those win totals. I want to know your

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Speaker 1: favorite over bet here. You know, as we near the

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Speaker 1: end of July, what do you got your eye on a.

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Speaker 4: Team we haven't talked about hardly at all this summer.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with the Miami Heat. Okay, well, yeah, forty

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Speaker 4: four and a half is what they're over under is

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Speaker 4: listed at here. That's eighth in the Eastern Conference. They

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Speaker 4: won forty six games last year, and that was with

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler played sixty games, Tyler Hero playing forty two,

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Speaker 4: and then only got thirty one games from Terry Rozier

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Speaker 4: after the trade with the Hornets. So they lost Caleb

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Speaker 4: Martin a starter, like that's a big loss for them

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Speaker 4: because they basically replaced him with Alec Burk's a guy

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Speaker 4: who will come off the bench.

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Speaker 1: And then they drafted.

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Speaker 4: Kalel Ware, who, while his name is literally inspired by Superman,

603
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Speaker 4: probably a bench player at this point, but at least

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Speaker 4: it seems like he's got to be able to play.

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Speaker 4: You look at what the Heat have done the past

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Speaker 4: couple of seasons. They've lost in the seven to eight

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Speaker 4: playoff game in back to back years. They went to

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Speaker 4: the finals one year and then they lost in the

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Speaker 4: first round of the playoffs. But you heard pat Riley

610
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Speaker 4: in the postseason press conference is basically calling out Jimmy Butler,

611
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Speaker 4: saying we want players here who play. The marriage with

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Speaker 4: Jimmy seems a little rocky right now. He's going into

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Speaker 4: a free agency season. Perhaps he gets traded and that's

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Speaker 4: why this line is so low. Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 4: it's more the other way. I think there's no way

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Speaker 4: to me that the Miami Heat are going to tank

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Speaker 4: away the season. They're going to be too good through

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Speaker 4: the first half of the season that even if they

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Speaker 4: were to trade Jimmy at the trade deadline, they're not

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Speaker 4: going to be able to get into the bottom four

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Speaker 4: or five teams. I would think so more than likely

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Speaker 4: they try and stay good. And if they try and

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Speaker 4: stay good, I don't think the Heat want to be

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Speaker 4: in the play in tournament. Again, just here in the

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Speaker 4: way pat Riley was talking and how risky it is

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Speaker 4: to try and win your way through the playoffs that way.

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Speaker 1: So I think they.

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Speaker 4: Could easily get over forty five wins, especially if they

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Speaker 4: want forty six last year. You gotta assume Jimmy plays

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Speaker 4: a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was perplexed by that line. I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I started thinking exactly that. I

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Speaker 1: was like, they must be thinking there's a possibility that

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Speaker 1: the Heat like lean into not a tank, because they

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Speaker 1: don't do that, but like the idea of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe moving Jimmy Butler and maybe that's where that line

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Speaker 1: gets a little bit lower. But yeah, I had my

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Speaker 1: eye on that one. So I like that. So you're

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Speaker 1: going heat as one of your favorite overs, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go to Cleveland Cavaliers at forty six and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a little too low. I think it's

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Speaker 1: around the ballpark of where they'll be. But forty seven wins.

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Speaker 1: They can't get to forty seven wins like that seems weird.

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Speaker 1: They dealt with numerous injuries last season. They're top four

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Speaker 1: guys in Mitchell and Garland and Mobley and Jared Allen.

646
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Speaker 1: They played twenty eight games together. You gotta think, now, yeah,

647
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: do they move one of them? It's looking less and

648
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: less likely if we're being honest, that they do. I

649
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna let Kenny Akinson give it a go.

650
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: So if they play together and they won forty eight

651
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: games still last year, despite those you know, core four

652
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: playing only twenty eight games together, they win a lot

653
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: of their games with defense, which I always like for

654
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: these over unders, like you sort of have an identity.

655
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Just seems strange and I love like I do like

656
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: Kenny Akinson coming in for Bickerstaff. That feels like one

657
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: of those little like couple win bumps, you know, just

658
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: in coaching alone. And the other part of this equation

659
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: to me is why I like the Cavs over Donovan Mitchell.

660
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: His teams win regular season games. Yeah, they always do.

661
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: They struggle in the playoffs, but they always win regular

662
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: season games. I went and looked at it. Forty eight

663
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: wins for Cleveland last year. Like I said, fifty one

664
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland wins in Donovan Mitchell's first year with the team,

665
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: his last year in Utah, forty nine wins. Year before that,

666
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: fifty two year before that, the team was forty four

667
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: and twenty eight in the COVID shortened season. That's a

668
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: sixty one percent win percentage. That maps out to about

669
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: a fifty win season in a full eighty two game season.

670
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: And then before that fifty wins. You got to go

671
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: back to his rookie season and they were forty eight

672
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: and thirty four. He always wins forty seven plus games,

673
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting out here. Forty eight really well,

674
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't see why that would change again. Maybe you

675
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: can tuck yourself in the East got a little bit better.

676
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they dropped some games here or there, but they

677
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: were really good last year at beating up on bad teams.

678
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: They took three or four against the Hawks, three four

679
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: against the Nets, three or four against the Bulls, two

680
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: or three against the Raptors. They swept, the Pistons, swept

681
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: the Wizards, swept the two game series against the Grizzlies,

682
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and the Spurs and the Jazz. They just beat the

683
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: bad teams, and that's how you get a lot of

684
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: these wins, and then you put up a fight against

685
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: the good team. So I like them.

686
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I saw it, I was like, forty seven

687
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: wins seems quite reasonable for the Cavs considering they've gone,

688
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: like you said, fifty one wins and forty eight wins

689
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: with Mitchell there. They brought everybody back, they got a

690
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: new coach. So to me, you're like, oh, yeah, that

691
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: sounds good. But then you think back, You're like when

692
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: Mowbley was out, when Garland was out, they went eighteen

693
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: and two. Very weird, gonna happen again, weird right right,

694
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: As most Neff says here in the stream, team they

695
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: were worse when they were healthy.

696
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good boys.

697
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense, and that's why they came down

698
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: as a do not touch team for me because I'm like,

699
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: I think.

700
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: They should go over. It seems like an easy over

701
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: to me. But why what if it goes poorly?

702
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: You know, because it kind of went poorly last year

703
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: with so many of their starters actually being out of

704
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: the lineup. You would say from a health standpoint, went poorly.

705
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: From a win standpoint, it did not know it helped

706
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: their team.

707
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm baking. It's a weird one. It's a weird one.

708
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: And again, I really am putting a little bit of

709
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: stock into the coaching upgrade, which I do think he'll

710
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: get more offensively from that team. Kenny Akinson obviously history

711
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: with Jaron Allen. I like that fit if they can

712
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: just sort of keep the backbone of the defense. All right,

713
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: let's go to under bets in the Eastern Conference GD.

714
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: If you have it, they're maybe throwing up one more

715
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: time to remind the people of all the odds there.

716
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite under bet TK?

717
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it's the one.

718
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm choosing the Orlando Magic forty seven and a half wins.

719
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: I'm going under that's fifth in the East. They won

720
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: forty seven games, last year they added Kenthavius called well

721
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: pompe they're running it back except for probably markl Foltz,

722
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: maybe Anthony Black STAPs into the starting lineup for him.

723
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: You look at their health last year, Wendell Carter Junior

724
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: played fifty five games, Gary Harris played forty four games,

725
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: but they were pretty healthy. Otherwise, Polo Franz, Jalen Sugs,

726
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 4: they all played seventy two or more games. If one

727
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 4: of Paulo or Franz goes down, they're in danger of

728
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: going under on this one. You also look at their

729
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: clutch games. Last year, they won sixty percent of their

730
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: games in the clutch. If they win fifty percent of

731
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: their games in the clutch, they're probably going under here.

732
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: But I just thought it was crazy because I've been

733
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: saying I don't think the Magic got a lot better

734
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: during the offseason, and then they're over underwin total is

735
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: exactly the same as.

736
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: In one last right, It's right, That's why I mean,

737
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: they're of course banking on continuity and internal growth, and

738
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: like I mean, you easily could see them being a

739
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: fifty win team if those guys get better, and of

740
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: course health comes into play and contagious cold wopulp. I

741
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: like that addition, but you're going under Ah. It hurts.

742
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: It hurts me as a weird Magic fan suddenly as

743
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: I sort of believe in this team or I like

744
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: how they're doing it, But yeah, they're going. The problem

745
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: is with the Calves, honestly, the Magic. They're gonna maybe

746
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: the Pacers I would throw in that group. They're gonna

747
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: be right around these lines. It's going to be like

748
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: I think, within a game or two, and like that's

749
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: where you gotta pick my favorite under bet. I'm looking

750
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: at this a little weird. Are a little differently, Excuse me. Okay,

751
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: we had three teams that won less than twenty two

752
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: games in the Eastern Conference last year. Hornets were twenty

753
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: one and sixty one, the Wizards were fifteen and sixty seven,

754
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: and the Pistons were fourteen and sixty eight. When you

755
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: look at their over under totals here or their lines

756
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: their win totals, we have a basically eight to nine

757
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: to eleven win improvement for all three of these shitty teams.

758
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: That doesn't add up. I'm sorry, Like the Hornets are

759
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: jumping like by nine wins to a twenty nine and

760
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: a half line, the Wizards are jumping by eight wins

761
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: to twenty two and a half and the Pistons are

762
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: jumping by eleven wins to twenty four and a half.

763
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying those teams won't get better. There is

764
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: no way all three of those hit those overs. There's

765
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: just no way, and more likely maybe one, but not two.

766
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: And I just don't get it. What's the thinking Hornets?

767
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I guess have the fairest case because you're like, I

768
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: don't know, you bring back a healthy LaMelo ball, but

769
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: it's been two years straight since we've had a healthy

770
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: LaMelo ball. I guess that's the one. You're like, Okay,

771
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: maybe they're a much better team when he played obviously

772
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: what two or three seasons ago now, But the Wizards

773
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: and Pistons, those are that's a big jump. Those are

774
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: pretty big, pretty big jumps. And again, they're gonna be better.

775
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: I do think. I don't think they're gonna be fourteen

776
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: win teams. But even if you're you know, a twenty

777
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: win team, you're still coming under almost, you know, pretty

778
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: pretty handidly for both these So is the reasoning the

779
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Nets are gonna be so bad? Yeah? And maybe the

780
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: Bulls and Raptors are so bad and the Hawks are

781
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: suddenly maybe so, is that the reasoning. I don't think

782
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: a lot of those teams are gonna try and tank

783
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: that I just listed there, So outside of the Nets,

784
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense because you look at like Miami

785
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: their win total went down a little bit, Orlando staying

786
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: about the same.

787
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: Cleveland is about the same. So it's like the East

788
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: did get better. So you can see them taking away

789
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: wins from some of the top teams, but they're giving them.

790
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: To the bad That's what I'm saying.

791
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: Usually there's one team that has in the teams and

792
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: wins and then several in the twenties. Last year was

793
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: maybe a bit of an anomaly. Yeah, so I don't know.

794
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I would guess like that, right, those three teams, your

795
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: confidence in them hitting their over Hornets, Wizards, and Pistons.

796
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: I can't see the Hornets getting to thirty.

797
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: One, That's what I'm saying.

798
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I can see that.

799
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: I can see the Nets getting to twenty wins and

800
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: still being the worst team in the league. I could

801
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 4: see the Pistons winning twenty five, okay, fifty to fifty.

802
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 4: I think Washington will be the worst team in these.

803
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's ultimately where I decided on that would

804
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: be my favorite of all these teams. But my point

805
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way these three bad teams are

806
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: suddenly like ten wins better. I don't get the Matthew

807
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: math into me Mathes. So we'll see, because when you

808
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: look at what these teams added again, yeah, maybe a

809
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: healthy LaMelo for Charlotte, but they added Josh Green and

810
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson, and they re signed the piece of shit

811
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Miles Bridges. Washington added Yonis Nalen Schounis, Malcolm Brogden, and

812
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: Sadik Bay who's injured. Yeah, okay, and then Pistons added

813
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: Jobar Mom and say yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not

814
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: counting obviously with you here. And then the Pistons added

815
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris and Tim Hardaway Junior and Malik Beasley shooting

816
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: and Wendore Wendellmore junior and Paul Reid JB. Bicks. Yeah

817
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: right right, yeah, one of those coaches and just get

818
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you a couple of wins. I just don't see all

819
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: three of those teams like doing that. So I'll go Wizards.

820
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: That's my favorite. They'll probably be right there with the

821
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: Nets as the worst two. All right, final question in

822
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: the East? Do not touch team a team that you're like,

823
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: You're looking at the line, You're like, I don't know,

824
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: or this could go either way, so I would not

825
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: be making a bet.

826
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said the Cavs were one of my teams here,

827
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: but I also would throw in the seventy six ers

828
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: fifty two and a half wins they could easily go over.

829
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Paul George is a perfect fit

830
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 4: in between Maxi and EMBIID. But if Embiid goes down

831
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: for thirty games, Paul George goes down for twenty games.

832
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty reasonable that they could come in

833
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: with a fifty win season and still consider it a success.

834
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: But the thing with the seventy six ers is that

835
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: doesn't really matter at all what they do during the

836
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 4: regular season. Like Embiids should not be playing enough games

837
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 4: that he qualifies for awards. I mean, I don't know,

838
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: he can miss seventeen games and stay healthy generally otherwise,

839
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: but he shouldn't be gunning for the MVP like he

840
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: has in seasons past. They got to prioritize being healthy

841
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: and energized for the postseason, which maybe makes them less

842
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: likely to chase wins during their regular season. That being said,

843
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 4: they could click perfectly look like an awesome big three

844
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 4: with those three guys together, and maybe they do see

845
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 4: the value in having home court advantage throughout the Eastern

846
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: Conference playoffs, where a team like the Celtics dealing with

847
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: Porzingis's injury coming off a championship, we can win anywhere.

848
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: We don't necessarily need that.

849
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: So I could see the Sixers being at the top

850
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 4: of the conference, having a great season, being in the

851
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 4: middle of the conference, but ready to go come playoff time,

852
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: which is why I would not touch this fun My do.

853
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: Not touch team I think is pretty similar to yours.

854
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: You took the Sixers give me the Bucks. At fifty

855
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: one and a half, I get the reason for optimism.

856
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: With a second season of Giannis and Damian Lillard, you know,

857
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: under dock River system, and maybe a healthy Lillard coming

858
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: in and working out in the off season. That makes sense.

859
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: But their core is just getting older, right. Giannis is

860
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: entering his age thirty season. You got Lillard thirty four.

861
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: Middleton is thirty two, I believe, and he just had

862
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: two ankle surgeries. Brook Lopez is getting up there in

863
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: age if he's thirty six. They didn't make a huge

864
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: splash and free agency either. They got in the pool,

865
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: they took the stairs in. They did the o you

866
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: know when you get in the pool and the stairs

867
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: always that extra cold. They did well because we liked

868
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: what they did. Torrian, Prince, Delon Wright, Gary Trent Junior

869
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: all on one year deals. But you know, again, not

870
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: a major, major splash here. So I could see a

871
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: bounce back year, like I was saying for the Bucks,

872
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: where they're back to being one of the more dominant

873
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: teams in these two converts, or I could see once

874
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: again sort of some struggles and maybe age an injury

875
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: is playing a part. I don't know. I'm not touching it.

876
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: Because you got at the top of the conference. You know,

877
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: the Celtics are going to still be dominant, the Sixers

878
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: probably will be, the Knicks look damn good. And then

879
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: I do think there's going to be a team from

880
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: either Cleveland, Orlando or Indiana that sort of forces their

881
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: wad in. One of those teams will force their way

882
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: in sort of the top four conversation. I wonder where

883
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks fall, so I'll just not touch Milwaukee.

884
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think for them, they're

885
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: thinking that maybe we got some better veterans.

886
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

887
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it might be a toss up between who

888
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: they had last year, but they at least got some

889
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: new guys who can shoot. But they're banking on having

890
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: a more normal season than last year. They had the

891
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: Dame trade that happened right before the season started. They

892
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: hired a new coach and Adrian Griffin. They moved off

893
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: him forty games in Giannis was hurt at the end

894
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: of the season.

895
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: A lot was going on for Milwaukee.

896
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: So they're just hoping we have a slightly chiller season,

897
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: which therefore leads to more wins.

898
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: This might change everything.

899
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: Those Skeets woes reporting that veteran guard Reggie Jackson and

900
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: agreed to a contract.

901
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Buy out with the Hornets and he's going to join

902
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: the seventy six ers. Oh my goodness, wow big get ready. Wow,

903
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: he's going to the six Ers.

904
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: They have campaign too, don't they do they? I think

906
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: they do. They have Kyle or they don't have Kyle

907
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: app they do Dyah Larry. Yeah, they made that happen.

908
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: I thought they got a lot of guards. I'm pretty

909
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: sure campaigns on this where do they have three backup

910
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: point guards? They just maxed that a lot of guards

911
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: is weird? Wow, Okay, well that changes everything. Okay, you

912
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna start over. We're gonna uptake those

913
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: over underwin totals. All right, let's move to the Western Conference.

914
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: We'll show you all of them and I'll read them

915
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: for the podcast listener. Uh. Here we have the Mavericks

916
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: that fifty and a half wins, the Nuggets fifty two

917
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: and a half wins, the Warriors forty three and a half,

918
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Rockets forty two and a half, Clippers forty one and

919
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: a half, Lakers forty four and a half, Grizzlies forty

920
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: six and a half, the Minnesota Timberwolves fifty two and

921
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: a half, Pelicans forty five and a half. Okay, see

922
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: they have the highest no in the West fifty five

923
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: and a half wins, Sons at forty six and a half. Finally,

924
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: a team with a very low win total, the Blazers

925
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: twenty one and a half. We got Spurs thirty five

926
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: and a half, King's forty six and a half, and

927
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: as we already talked about the Jazz are not on

928
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: the board, according to Ben MGM, waiting on that lowry

929
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: marketing deal, whether it's coming or not. So there they

930
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: are same questions as we did in the East. Let's

931
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: start with your favorite over bet. Just a quick correction here.

932
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Campaign is a New York nick. Oh my god, I'm

933
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: my apologies.

934
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: Remember he got signed and I think it was Josh

935
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: Hart said wait to go, Terry, because Campaign got busted

936
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: over the summer and gave the cops a fake name

937
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: and said, if you want to arrest me for telling

938
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: you my name is Terry Johnson, you can do it right.

939
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that's where I got misdake Terry Johnson. He was

940
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: on the sixer. He was on the cutish last season

941
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: with the six series.

942
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 4: My favorite over bet in the Western Conference Golden State

943
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: Warriors forty three and a half wins WOO the past

944
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: two seasons after their championship forty four wins and forty

945
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: six wins last year, Clay Chris Paul, Dario Sarich out

946
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: the Anthony Meltin, Kyle Anderson, Buddy healed in they're younger,

947
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: they're scrappier, they're probably better defenders. I imagine these guys

948
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: some more playmaking. Perhaps I guess maybe a toss up

949
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: at this point in their careers between Kyle Anderson and

950
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: Chris Paul. But I think they'll probably be about able

951
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: to recreate and aggregate what the what the Warriors got

952
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 4: from Clay and Chris Paul last year. So forty three

953
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: and a half wins, So forty four wins for the Warriors.

954
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: I don't think is out of questions. Steph Curry is

955
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: going to be in a rhythm after playing in the Olympics.

956
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: If Draymond doesn't get suspended for seventeen games or whatever

957
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: it was last season, the Warriors, maybe you're looking at

958
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: fifty wins last year and then they would be an

959
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: easy over here.

960
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't think.

961
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it's sad that they lost Klay Thompson, but

962
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: from an on court perspective, I think they did a

963
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: decent job replacing him.

964
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: I like that one as well. I went with the

965
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: Rockets forty two and a half as one of my

966
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: favorite overs because they were a five hundred ball club

967
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: last year. They are banking, of course on you know,

968
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: doubling down on continuity, internal growth. You got another year

969
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: with you Doak on the sidelines. You got another year

970
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: with your vets in Van Vliet and Dylan Brooks. They

971
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: re signed Aaron Holliday as another VET, and then they're hoping,

972
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: I would imagine, for another sort of step up for one, two,

973
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: three of their young guys, because we got Jalen Green

974
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: entering year four. Same for Shngun who returns from injury.

975
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: That was a weird part of last season. He got

976
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: injured and they ripped off like an eleven game win streak.

977
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: But he's important to them. Jabari Smith Junior, he heads

978
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: into year three, Tarry Eesen same year three, Aman Thompson,

979
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: Cam Whitmore year too. Cam Whitmore looked fantastic obviously at

980
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Summer League. So you have all these young guys in

981
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: addition to their draft pick in Reed Shepherd, who looked great.

982
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a role on this

983
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: team as a shooter. You got another young player and

984
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Adrian Griffith, will he get any opportunity possibly coming over

985
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: from the Hawks. And then I forgot they're gonna have

986
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: in Steven Adams on this team. He sat out the

987
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: entire year last year rehabbing with injury. You know, we'll

988
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: see what level he can get back to. But obviously

989
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: one of the best rebounders in the game, one of

990
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: the best. Like pick setters, gives you a little toughness.

991
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: He'll be probably a backup center behind Jock Landell, but

992
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: then you know, you just got more minutes at your

993
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: center position there. I'd like this team to like, I

994
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: don't see a fall off. I really don't. So really,

995
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: we're just looking at the sort of same numbers last year,

996
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: like two more wins. I think it's doable. And one

997
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: thing to watch for with the Rockets because I went

998
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: back and looked at sort of how they played last year.

999
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: They need to clean up road trips. This team was

1000
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: garbage on road trips. They lost three They lost three

1001
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: close games to the Clippers, Lakers, and Warriors on a

1002
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: three game road trip in early November. But they were

1003
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: all close games. Okay, that's fine, you're starting the season.

1004
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: A week later, they lost another three game road trip.

1005
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: In early January, they lost five to six on their

1006
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: longest road trip of the season. The only win was

1007
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: against the Pistons, and then in February they got swept

1008
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: on a four game road trip Minnesota. Good team, but

1009
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: then you know the Pacers, the Raptors, the Hawks, some

1010
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: of those should be wins. They can't have these just

1011
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: over road trips. And I don't think they will having

1012
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: another year in these guys, I think getting better. So

1013
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: I like the Rockets forty two and a half good

1014
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: for eleventh in the Western com Well, this crazy, that's it.

1015
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right and crazy. Like even when you

1016
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: look at the Thunder as a fifty five and a half,

1017
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: like I almost took them, it feels too low. But

1018
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I sort of caught myself because it's like the West

1019
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: is so loaded that you can have fifty five to

1020
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: fifty six wins and you will be the best team.

1021
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: But it's not like, oh, like a sixty win team

1022
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: just like that. They might butt like you gotta like

1023
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: it's different than the East when you look at these

1024
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: win totals because of them just playing each other so

1025
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: much more and they sort of like evening out a

1026
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: little bit.

1027
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm interesting to see what they do with Shnguon and

1028
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: Jalen Green, Yeah, because I think they're both extension eligible

1029
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: right now, and they both had awesome half seasons. Like

1030
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 4: shng Gun was an All Star candidate, through the first

1031
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: three months of the season, it looked like they were

1032
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: building the team around him and the passing he brings

1033
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: from the post position. Then he goes out with injury.

1034
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: Jalen Green goes off in March and April looked like

1035
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: a real asset, looked like a real player out there,

1036
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: and the team made a run towards the play in

1037
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: tournament at the end, really pushing the Warriors as far

1038
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: as they could. So how do they handle giving those

1039
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: guys extensions? How do they handle giving those guys the

1040
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: reins coming into this season? I think you look at

1041
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: all those close losses they had on the road, that

1042
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: is what happens when you're a young team. So they

1043
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: are a little bit older. Maybe Steven Adams helps, but

1044
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 4: like he can't play with shng goon. No, No, like

1045
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a backup guy. We'll see if he

1046
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 4: can even move.

1047
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: At this point. It's been a long time since he played.

1048
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: But fun guy to have around. So yeah, I'm interested

1049
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: to see how the Rockets play this year because I

1050
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: feel like they had two separate seasons.

1051
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, last year it's like maybe they have three guys

1052
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: who should be playing the five and Steven Adams, Shengon

1053
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: and Jabari Smith, who like when he switched to the

1054
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 4: small ball five, that's when they actually started playing great offense.

1055
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: They're just one of the teams.

1056
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 4: I think that's going to be most interesting the first

1057
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 4: month of the season to see what they look like

1058
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: this iteration.

1059
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's do a favorite under bet in

1060
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the Western Conference. What jumps out to you.

1061
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: I'm going under on the the Philadelphia the Los Angeles

1062
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 4: Clippers forty one and a half last season when Kawhi

1063
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: Leonard was healthy. They went forty four and twenty four,

1064
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 4: seven and seven when he was out. Still don't really

1065
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 4: understand what happened with Team USA because Kevin Durant has

1066
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 4: not played yet, he's not practicing, and he is still

1067
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 4: on the team. They sent Kawhi Leonard home weeks ago.

1068
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: Is he healthy The Clippers say so. Team USA basically

1069
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: said no, not at this point, So I think it's

1070
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: somewhere in between. If he misses a significant chunk of

1071
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 4: time like Quhi planned sixty eight games last year, I

1072
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 4: don't think we'll ever see that again. There's no way

1073
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: they need him because if he goes out, it's James

1074
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: Harden and.

1075
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: Norm Powell, Kevin Porter Junior.

1076
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick, buttoon, that's a bad team if Kawhi Leonard

1077
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: goes down. So I think this is the team I

1078
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 4: would be most likely to go under.

1079
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: A is somebody needs to go back and see if

1080
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: there's a new arena bump all these teams that move

1081
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: into a brand new arena, Chase Center. I think they

1082
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: were had the worst Warriors season past ten years. Interesting. Interesting,

1083
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: now there's there Steph Craig got hurt. I think, yeah,

1084
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: that's true. So I'm just curious the into it though,

1085
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, are they going to be like, you know what,

1086
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if we're good. People love this place.

1087
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: Everybody's getting a a T shirt. Everybody gets a shirt,

1088
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Everybody takes a shit and gets a shirt

1089
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: into it, Yeah exactly. So somebody do that. Well, maybe

1090
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: we'll look into that. I like that one. I actually

1091
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: took the other LA team though, I'm taking the Lakers.

1092
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Lakers under forty four and a half wins,

1093
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: and there's really only one reason why. Yes, they won

1094
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: forty seven games last season, but they had a legit

1095
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: best case scenario when it came to their two superstars

1096
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: who are dominating Team USA right now in Lebron James

1097
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis both being healthy. They were healthy. Bron

1098
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: appeared in seventy one games, eighty played in seventy six games.

1099
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Are you are you going to count on both of

1100
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: them staying healthy for a majority of the regular season

1101
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: again and do that again? If they do, then they're

1102
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: probably over a forty five win team. But if they don't,

1103
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: if one of them goes down. They didn't do anything

1104
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: else this summer. They drafted guys, they drafted connect and

1105
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: they drafted Broddie James Junior. What else have the Lakers

1106
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: done besides bringing a sharpshooter named JJ Reddick. Yeah, but

1107
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the problem is he doesn't play. He's the coach yet,

1108
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: and you know, you might have some you know, experience

1109
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: some growing pains as a first year head coach. There

1110
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: could be that as well, especially with the Lebron led team.

1111
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like again, it'll be right around there.

1112
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: I think that's where the Lakers will fall. But I

1113
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: will take them falling under forty five wins because I

1114
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: just don't I can't bet on that happening again. I

1115
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: think that's unlikely. That both of those guys play seventy

1116
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: plus games.

1117
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I totally agree. I mean they won

1118
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: forty seven last year prior to that forty three wins

1119
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: when it was like fifty five five games basically for

1120
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: Lebron and for ad So if they miss a significant

1121
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: point of time, it's like there's nobody really to take

1122
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 4: them home.

1123
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a tenuous situation in LA no doubt.

1124
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: H okay.

1125
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: And then finally, do not touch team in the Western Conference?

1126
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: Who are you saying? Uh uh, I'm not taking that one.

1127
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.

1128
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 4: With the Grizzlies forty six and a half wins, I

1129
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 4: really want the over.

1130
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: I think they should probably hit this.

1131
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 4: In the previous two seasons, when Ja Morant was healthy

1132
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: and not suspended until the end of the year, the

1133
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: Grizzlies won.

1134
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Fifty six and fifty one games.

1135
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: But the thing with Jaw is that even if he

1136
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: comes back healthy, he misses a lot of time outside

1137
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 4: of suspensions. He played sixty seven of seventy three games

1138
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: his rookie year, and then in the next four seasons

1139
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: sixty three or fewer games, So there is a chance

1140
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna miss some Ja Morant time just because of

1141
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: the style. He plays very reckless. He hits the floor

1142
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: a lot that can lead to injuries. I love Zachi

1143
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 4: coming in basically as the Steven Adams last Jonas Valanciunas replacement,

1144
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: but the guy is still a rookie. There's still major

1145
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: questions about like how many minutes he can play and

1146
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: be effective in the NBA. I love Gigi Jackson, seems

1147
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: like a great fine Vince Williams seems like he's going

1148
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: to be in their rotation going forward as well. If

1149
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: I were guessing, I would go over on the Grizzlies here.

1150
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: I think they should probably be back in the mix

1151
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: from like probably four to eight in the Western Conference

1152
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: since they were one of the better teams. They're just

1153
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: a good regular season team. They play hard, they offensive, rebound,

1154
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: they run the court.

1155
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: But there are.

1156
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 4: Injury concerns, and then there are is this team really

1157
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: all that good concerns? But basically when you have Jaw

1158
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: Bain and Jared Jackson junior, you're looking at a chance

1159
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: at fifty wins as long as everybody's able to stay healthy.

1160
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: It is crazy that we had, would you say, eleven

1161
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: teams that were five hundred or better in the Western

1162
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Conference last year, and one of them wasn't the Grizzlies. Yeah,

1163
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: because of obviously John Moran schu and all of that,

1164
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: and that they should be now added to the mix.

1165
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's why it's like a team like,

1166
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it is the Warriors, or maybe it's

1167
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers or the Clippers, where you're like, somebody, somebody

1168
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: has to fall off a little bit here, somebody has

1169
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: to take a step back. If the Grizzlies, as I

1170
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: expect with you are again one of the better teams,

1171
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: and I would bank more on and over than an under,

1172
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: but I see why you're not touching them. I'm going

1173
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: with the Pelicans as a team, and I'm like, I

1174
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: don't know, forty five and a half wins that almost

1175
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: feels low. They won forty nine last year. They didn't

1176
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: have Trey Murphy for like the first twenty games, they

1177
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: didn't have Alvarado for the first thirteen or fourteen games.

1178
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: They added to John Tay Murray, one of the biggest

1179
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: names added in the off season, but they still have

1180
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram And it's like, is that gonna how are

1181
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: you gonna make that work or are you training him?

1182
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: What's going on there? They lost every single center on

1183
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: their roster. They lost jv they lost Larry Nance, they

1184
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: lost Cody Zeller. They did add Daniel Tice, they did

1185
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: draft a rookie and E's to see as their sort

1186
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: of maybe a backup center. They also lost Diyson Daniels, Nausei, Marshall.

1187
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of guys, but they lost guys.

1188
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: They lost guys that were like, they're six through ten guys,

1189
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They didn't lose really top

1190
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: end guys. Their top six or Zion still brandon Ingram

1191
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: is still there, Dejonte, Trey Murvy, the third, Herb Jones

1192
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: and CJ McCollum. It's a good six. You know, you

1193
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: want a center there. If it's Tye, it's Tice. But

1194
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: I like this team, but I'm also I don't know,

1195
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm really perplexed by this team. I could see them

1196
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: being still flirting with a fifty win season, just like

1197
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: they did last year. Of course, a lot of that

1198
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: depending on Zion's health. He plays, they're really good, and

1199
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: then when he doesn't, they sort of fall off. But

1200
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: I could also see the opposite, so I'm not touching

1201
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: the Pells. Where do you feel about them?

1202
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you are right here that this is

1203
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: a not touch team, because you're right they lost guys

1204
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: six through ten, but the Pelicans always have to.

1205
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Play guys six thers.

1206
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they get hurt all the time, and I think

1207
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: their depth did take a little bit of a hit here.

1208
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: We'll see what they end up doing with brandon Ingram.

1209
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: It's feeling more likely like he's at least going to

1210
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 4: be around at the start of the season. Maybe they

1211
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: trade him halfway through. But this team gets banged up

1212
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: all the time. But if Zion is healthy, they got

1213
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: a chance to go for fifty wins, I think.

1214
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: All right, So let's hear from all of you guys

1215
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: out there, your favorite over bets, your favorite under bets teams.

1216
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: You're like a little confused by that. You wouldn't touch.

1217
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: Drop him in the stream team, drop him in the

1218
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: YouTube comments, tweet them in at no dunk sink. All right,

1219
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: So NBA News, I'm gonna chuck a bunch of little

1220
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: things at you. You tell me what you want to address.

1221
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: We had the Heat beating the Grizzlies one to one

1222
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: eighteen in an overtime thriller to win Vegas Summer League

1223
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: that just ended.

1224
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly couldn't believe it. Like this morning, I

1225
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 4: was like, man, there's nothing going on in the NBA

1226
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: right now. They played in an entire summer I know

1227
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: last week. Imagine how heated we would have been doing

1228
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: the starters the championship game going into overtime. Rick Fox

1229
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: just stewing in the corner Fox after dark to.

1230
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Go knowing we can't even fly home? Can we get

1231
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: highway podcasts? Can we please? Hicky? Sorry, he doesn't want

1232
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: to do it. He's been here for three weeks. You're

1233
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: getting ware? Yeah? So, yeah, he looked good. They obviously

1234
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: named the teams as well, and there's some some second

1235
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: year guys with some rookies like Reach Epperd and so on.

1236
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: I think Jaalen Wilson was named MVP of Summer Lease.

1237
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: So the Heat won. Spencer Dinwitt. He agreed to a

1238
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: one year deal with the Dallas Mavericks. We had the

1239
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: Calves and Evan Mobley agreeing to a five year, two

1240
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four million dollar extension. Sam Housa and

1241
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: the Celtics agreed to a fully guaranteed four year, forty

1242
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: five million dollar extension. The Grizzlies traded former lottery pick

1243
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Ziara Williams to the Nets, so he's on Brooklyn. We'll

1244
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: get a chance there. And then the Raptors waived Javon Freeman,

1245
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Liberty and Sasha Zenkov yesterday. Zenkov basically just saying, keep

1246
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: the six million dollars. I don't want to be in

1247
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: the NBA anymore. I don't want to be around it.

1248
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around anymore. Gave up six

1249
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, apparently there was like no buyout of anything.

1250
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, those don't want it. I just don't

1251
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: want to be here. So he's going back. I guess

1252
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: overseas anyway, any of that news, you know, minor news.

1253
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: I would call most of that, but that's a lot

1254
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: of miners. Yeah, anything you want to talk, I guess,

1255
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: let's talk about the biggest number of The Cavs got

1256
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: Evan Mobley on a five year, two hundred and twenty

1257
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: four million dollar extension. I like that this one is

1258
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: being pitched as a two hundred and twenty four million

1259
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: dollar extension because there are certain incentives that can take

1260
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: it near two hundred and seventy million dollars, but people

1261
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: are like, are we sure? Are we sure?

1262
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 4: I think the Calves want Evan Mobley to make two

1263
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy million dollars because it means he's taken

1264
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: a step forward as a player, and clearly that's important

1265
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: for Cleveland. They gave him the money here, but more importantly,

1266
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: they brought in Kenny Atkinson this summer, and all he

1267
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: talked about at his press conference was getting the most

1268
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 4: out of Evan Mobley. He got Brook Lopez to shoot threes.

1269
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: He helped Jared Allen become a player as well. So

1270
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 4: I do think that Kenny Atkinson can put Mobile in

1271
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: positions to be he a better offensive player. Because I

1272
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: heard a great discussion on the WHO collective today. Basically

1273
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: they're saying Evan Mobley needs to become the best player

1274
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 4: on the Cleveland Cleveland Cavaliers. That's probably factoring his offense

1275
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: and his defense since he's an All NBA caliber defender,

1276
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 4: but they need him to at least be the second

1277
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: best player offensively next to Donovan Mitchell, and not necessarily

1278
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: just as a play finisher like Mobiley could do great

1279
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Speaker 4: as a role guy. But you pay him this much money,

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: you draft him where you do, you assume he's going

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00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 4: to be a guy that you can throw the ball

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00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: to and he's going to be able to score or

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00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: create for somebody else. So we'll see what kind of

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: situations Kenny Atkinson puts him in. Because Mobley' is a

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00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: super talented guy. He was awesome in the playoffs. It

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: kind of seemed like he did take a step forward offensively,

1287
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: looking to shoot threes, just looking aggressive. There's more to

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Speaker 4: Mobley's game on the offensive end that Kenny Atkinson can

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Speaker 4: get out of him. So I think this is kind

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Speaker 4: of a no brainer move to pay him this much

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Speaker 4: money when he's this good of a player. But it's

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Speaker 4: a big deal, and I do think Mobley needs to

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00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 4: improve a little bit to be worth it for the

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Speaker 4: course of this contract.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that, but definitely a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: After the fellow members of his twenty twenty one draft

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00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: class got MAX extensions in Kate Cunningham, Scottie Barnes and

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00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: Frouz Wagner, Mobley is in that mix and deserving of

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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: that as well. So now I believe those are the

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: only four guys from that class because you already said it.

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: Sheng Goon, no Jalen Green, no Giddy Kaminga, Moody Suggs,

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00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: Tramer for the third. You know, like there's a bunch

1303
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: of other ones that have not agreed to her signed

1304
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: extensions from that twenty one draft class. But those were

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00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: the four, like I said, Kate, Barnes, Fronz and now

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: Mobley and yeah, all summer A lot of speculation is

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00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland going to split up the front court of Jared

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00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: Allen and Mobley or the back court of Mitchell and Garland.

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: And it appears no, hey, like Kenny Cook is what

1310
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: they're thinking here, right, And they resigned Donovan Mitchell. They

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00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: obviously signed the extension of MOBILEI it appears they're going

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00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: to give it a go here. And I took him

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00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: as an over so I think it actually will work

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Speaker 1: at least in the regular season. Any other of those

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Speaker 1: little minor deals howsa. I mean, we know the Celtics

1316
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: are just saying we'll pay everybody, Hey, everybody, Hey, everyway,

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: we're selling the team. What would you care? Yeah, you

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: picked this one up for me.

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Speaker 4: Or forty five MILLI He shot forty eight percent on

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01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 4: five three point attempts per game in the finals and

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Speaker 4: stayed on the court defensively. So I was like, good job,

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: Sam Hawser, you shut me up. I didn't think you'd

1323
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: be able to sit on the court in the playoffs.

1324
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 4: And he was actually awesome in the NBA Finals. The

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: sverd time he touched, it felt like a swish.

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Speaker 1: The Celtics already gave MAX extensions to Jason Tatum and

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: Derek White this offseason for a combined four hundred and

1328
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: forty million. Jyalen Brown got the super Max extension in

1329
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: last July. Drew Holliday got a four year MAX extension

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: just before the playoffs. Porzingis is now entering the final

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: season of his two year, sixty million dollars extension. They

1332
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: re signed Tilmount Cornett Kita this month, and now howser here.

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they they just gave everybody a contract, and

1334
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: they're the champions, and they're gonna try and run this

1335
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: window here for a little bit. And like you said,

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: and then just the ownership's like, yeah, we're gonna sell

1337
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: the team. You can deal with that, yeah, exactly. So

1338
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: because they are gonna be you know, they're gonna be

1339
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: over the second apron here for the next two years,

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01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: which could cause you know, their two thousand and thirty

1341
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: two and two thousand and thirty three first round picks

1342
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: to be frozen untradeable things like that. There are penalties

1343
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: for this. But you know, again, they have an awesome team.

1344
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: I think the only players from last year's team not

1345
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: slated to be back are O'shae Brissett and spehe Mkai Luke.

1346
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: I think that's it right now, and everybody else is

1347
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna be there. But yeah, how's Aer one of the

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 1: least best shooters, so they got him on a pretty

1349
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: good deal, honestly for your forty five million. All right,

1350
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: before we go, let's go to tweet of the night.

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01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: Tweet of the night. Woww Yeah. Let's show you this

1352
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: new dome front off the sports with the tweet over

1353
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: the weekend. The LA Clippers new two billion dollar home,

1354
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: the Into It Doom, opens next month. We got power

1355
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: at every seat. You can charge your phone from your seat.

1356
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: That is pretty slick. Double sided halo board, which some

1357
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: of you are seeing here on YouTube. Three times the

1358
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 1: toilets of the average NBA arena. We've been talking about

1359
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: that for years. Man, They're gonna host the twenty twenty

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01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: six All Star Weekend, twenty twenty eight Olympic Basketball. And

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Speaker 1: one other thing is like Balmer says they can and

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01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: they will shoot T shirts at literally every seat in

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Speaker 1: the arena. I guess it's like in the actual board. Yeah,

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01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: did you see that? There's video of it, and it's

1365
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: like him on the board throwing it and it looks like, yeah,

1366
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: it's coming out of his hand. Yeah, it's pretty amazing,

1367
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Like this stadium looks unreal. It's like you're

1368
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: in a toilet with that water just sloshing around there. Yeah,

1369
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: have you seen that? There is another video, like I

1370
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: think Terrence Man was there and they were showing like

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01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: the basically the player profile and all of the stats

1372
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It looked amazing, look good. It

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01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: almost looked like, am I ever gonna be looking at

1374
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: the court and maybe we don't watch it to We

1375
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: got to distract them.

1376
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: You want to look at.

1377
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: Like just look at the board. I mean, it's it's

1378
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: pretty unreal. I mean it looks like it's gonna be

1379
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: a cool experience. Oh my god.

1380
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I like you have to set foot

1381
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: in the into it Dome someday walk into a bathroom

1382
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: and be wowed by the amount of toilets, because we

1383
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 4: can hear you literally about the toilets for a year

1384
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 4: at this point, so it must be an absurd number toilets.

1385
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: Like, whoa, that's actually way more than I expected.

1386
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 4: But I guess twenty twenty six All Star Weekend as

1387
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: the first chance we'll have out there.

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01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: Clippers, though, do seem to be hitting the ship sailing

1389
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: theme pretty hard.

1390
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: We're starting to see their new logo that they're switching

1391
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: to his appearing on all of the official stuff. Now,

1392
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: I was throwing me off during Summerly, I'm like, what

1393
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 4: is this team that's playing. It's the Clippers.

1394
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: That's the ship. They've obviously got the water on the

1395
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: halo board going around like tides or whatever. So I

1396
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I wanted to do pirate themed stuff, you know,

1397
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: like Jack Sparrow. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Put Kawhi

1398
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Leonard in an eye patch from Halloween. I don't know.

1399
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: I like it though, I like the I like the

1400
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: nautical thing they got going on. I haven't been I

1401
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: just realized to a lot of these brand new arenas,

1402
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: like I've still never been to the Golden One Center

1403
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: in Sacramento. It's supposed to be pretty amazing. You have

1404
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: you been in the Chase. I haven't been to Chase,

1405
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: Golden one or five Serve four. See these building around here?

1406
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: Is that it? That's the newest ones? And then into

1407
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: it obviously it's like it. Yeah, I guess Barclay's pretty

1408
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: old now at this point, isn't it. Yeah, we got

1409
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: to go on tour, got to the new stadium tour

1410
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: at Stadium cool. Yeah, you put us on the haloboard,

1411
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: do a live show, pack it out. More people come

1412
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: and see us than a Clippers kidding. I mean, listen,

1413
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like, you know, I think we got

1414
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: so caught up in They've got to have a good

1415
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: team going into a new arena. Have a good teams,

1416
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: Like do they look at this have ok Yeah, it's okay,

1417
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: but who gives a ship? People are gonna be like

1418
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: just go out to want to see this, Like this

1419
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: looks like an absolute charge your phone. I should put

1420
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: no chargers on the seats if they wanted people to watch,

1421
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, But he's like he's really he's pitching

1422
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: this idea of like hey, we're gonna be able to

1423
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: award you for cheering. You keep saying like that, like

1424
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: like cheer points, almost like they're tracking you. Man, how

1425
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 1: much credit? How much are you clapping? How much you watch?

1426
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: And how much are you yelling? Well, chuck, it will

1427
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: fire a T shirt right in your seat. You have

1428
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: your head on a swivel in this place, knowing a

1429
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: T shirt could come right directly anyone.

1430
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: You know, it's cool when I think I might go

1431
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: to the the arena.

1432
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh, you're you're intrigued by that.

1433
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm in tried. I like to see it. I mean,

1434
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: like the Eagles are playing at the sphere or sphere, Yeah,

1435
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean do I want to see the Eagles? Not really,

1436
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: but I do want to see the sphere.

1437
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: So it's incredible. I'm with you. I want to go too.

1438
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.

1439
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's go.

1440
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: Let's hit the sphere and then we'll hit what is

1441
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: it into it?

1442
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, let's work our way up. Let's go see some imax. Okay,

1443
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: let's go see twisters and twisters And I did you

1444
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: watch it now yet? I did rewatch twister?

1445
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay? And hold up?

1446
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: It held up? Not as well as I was thinking.

1447
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: But my basic review was that after I watched Twister

1448
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: at my home, I was like, I have to see

1449
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: Twisters in the theater. Okay, because I mean seeing Twister,

1450
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 4: I saw, literally I saw Twister in a drive in theater,

1451
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 4: and a drive in theater gets destroyed and Twister so

1452
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 4: it's perfect. So I think you want to see it

1453
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 4: on a gigantic screen because like, I mean, the cow

1454
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: floating by it was like, oh yeah, I remember that

1455
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 4: when that was cool.

1456
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what everyone remembers. You're right, the reviews have

1457
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: not wowed me people that have gone. For people that

1458
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: have actually gone. I'm not like talking about like critic ones.

1459
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: I've like critics and stuff, but like were like, it's

1460
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: like it sounds like it's not as sort of almost

1461
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: silly or as fun maybe as cows flying around in

1462
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: the original. Yeah. Right, but you know I want to

1463
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: go see it too. All right, let's go see it together. Okay, cool,

1464
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: let's call it there no Dumes classic. Hopefully you tell us,

1465
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: leave us a five star rating and review, hit the

1466
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: like button subscribe. I'll remind you once again that the

1467
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: Summer of Champions Are Nightly Olympics podcast starts on Friday,

1468
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: talking about those opening ceremonies, talking about the boats and

1469
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, did you see what the Mongolians were wearing?

1470
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: Sure it did, Noura, let's talk about it. Looks cool.

1471
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: They got cool, cool outfits. So we'll talk about that

1472
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: and a whole lot more. But join us on Friday night.

1473
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: We might have another Notemes podcast later this week, depending

1474
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: on the news. But I appreciate you guys joining us

1475
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: here live today. Great to be back in the factory

1476
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: with you guys. Great to be healthy once again. Covid suck.

1477
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: COVID got me this time Vegas. Covid is real.

1478
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: Wow, got in Vegas? I mean you must have. I

1479
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: mean I think, so, how did I not get it? Well,

1480
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1481
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: Just some more amusis, I didn't fly with you. I

1482
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: guess you know who I got it from. I got

1483
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: it from that guy that we were sitting on on

1484
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: the plane who was like yelling in my face. Oh yeah,

1485
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: you were telling us the story of it. Yeah, what

1486
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: do we call him? Glenn?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: You know what I was talking too, telling you at

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Speaker 1: dinner that night, Glenn gave us COVID forst Sure, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, guy, just talking so close to me man.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, thanks for the COVID. Anyway, we're

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Speaker 1: back in healthy, we're feeling good. We're ready for the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: and uh we will see you later this week till

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Speaker 1: the Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have a

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Speaker 1: great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember when the roosters are

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Speaker 1: crowing and the cows are spinning circles in the pasture,

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Speaker 1: ducks fly together? Did you just jam two movies together? Now?

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Speaker 1: That's a quote from d Wayne Rosent, the finest puck

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Speaker 1: handler in all the world. You mean for his age.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were jamming twisters with.

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Speaker 4: Sucks, because that's that's just a classic, uh Eastland versus

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01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 4: tam Usa.

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Speaker 1: In between the second and.

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Speaker 4: Third periods in the gold medal game for the Junior

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Speaker 4: Goodwill Games, they're saying all these different times that ducks

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Speaker 4: fly together, and then the guy from Austin, Texas says

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Speaker 4: this nonsense about.

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Speaker 1: A farm, and they're like, oh, okay, we're from Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: We don't have farms. I gotta watch so many movies,

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Speaker 1: you know, I erase the day people