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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Bros. Podcast or

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Speaker 2: Week eighteen of the NFL season, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: bet MGM. I'm your host Dan Harris. With me, it's

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Speaker 2: Joe Pizza Pa. We are here to give our three

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Speaker 2: best bets for Week eighteen of the NFL season. Joe,

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Speaker 2: how does this snowy Friday morning find you?

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Speaker 1: It finds me doing this show instead of going outside

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Speaker 1: and shoveling, that's for sure. I was like, Dan, do

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Speaker 1: you want to you want to do a few more

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Speaker 1: podcasts today? Maybe stick around for a few hours, because

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Speaker 1: the longer we talk here, the longer I get to

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Speaker 1: stay inside and warm and not outside the freezing cold

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Speaker 1: trying to shovel snow.

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Speaker 3: So I'm all for this.

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Speaker 1: In fact, this could be a three hour podcast for

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Speaker 1: all I care today.

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Speaker 2: Do you not have a snowblower? Joe?

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Speaker 1: I do here?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you asked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's week eighteen, man, whatever.

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Speaker 1: So I have the longest driveway in creation, right, so

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Speaker 1: I should have one of those ridiculous giant sized snowblows,

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I have like an electric one, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is my driveway so long that

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Speaker 1: I should say, so, yeah, it's it's a weird situation.

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Speaker 1: to borrow my neighbors who's got the big bad boy.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be okay, I'm gonna wait it out.

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Speaker 1: Let the sun kind of take care of some stuff.

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Speaker 1: But overall, yes, I do. And it's of course called

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Speaker 1: a snow joe because a right.

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Speaker 2: So, I think many people have driveway envy for us

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Speaker 2: because our driveway is not particularly long, unlike a lot

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Speaker 2: look what I've done. I've heared this entire thing zen.

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Speaker 1: About it right where it is like, you know, like

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Speaker 1: some people like to rake the sand, This snow blowing,

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Speaker 1: to choose which direction you're gonna blow it in.

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Speaker 3: It's a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say it, all right, I like it, So

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Speaker 2: we'll do that afterwards. All right, a couple of brief announcements.

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Speaker 2: First of all, this is my last podcast. Actually, this

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Speaker 2: is my last podcast total for if you follow us

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Speaker 2: on Fantasy Pros, if you follow us on Betting Pros both,

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Speaker 2: it's my last podcast. One last live stream for me

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Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, week eighteen with Matt Parout like we

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Speaker 2: do every single Sunday morning. But this is it my

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Speaker 2: last podcast. I love the company. I'm leaving for a

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Speaker 2: completely unrelated opportunity outside of the field of sports betting

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Speaker 2: and fantasy. So this is the last time you're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear my voice, which I know for certain of you

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Speaker 2: is very exciting because certain of you are desperate to

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Speaker 2: gear it to me and Joe is certainly one of

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Speaker 2: them as well. Terrible Terrible in the meantime to finish

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Speaker 2: stop in the playoffs and everything like that. Joe will

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Speaker 2: be the host of the show and they'll have on guests,

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Speaker 2: and Joe's much better and more popular than I am.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. I've enjoyed I've enjoyed it. I've

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Speaker 2: enjoyed doing the show very much this season. I love

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Speaker 2: all our listeners and I wish you the best of luck.

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Speaker 2: I will try to send you out here on a

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Speaker 2: high note. So we're gonna give our three best bets

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Speaker 2: here of the of the weekend for the NFL's week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: So it's crazy and a lot of this stuff will change,

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Speaker 2: but let's recap last week what we did. We had

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Speaker 2: We will try to finish this off on a high note.

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Speaker 2: But Joe, for the last time, you are the guest

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Speaker 2: of this show, not the host of this show. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: I will allow you to make the first selection. Please

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Speaker 2: show give me your favorite bet for Week eighteen of

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Speaker 2: the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know sometimes when we see giant numbers it

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Speaker 1: scares people off, but it's Week eighteen. Defenses are quitting everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Some teams are already quit. And I think one of

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Speaker 1: not gonna see Trevor Lawrence in the second half of

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Speaker 3: But I think he's gonna die trying. I really do.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the more you have the to him,

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Speaker 1: not like they all go back go we got to

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Speaker 1: finish the season the highoue. No, all these guys already

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Speaker 1: of the day, I think the fifty is actually a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen is a high number, Joe, So a couple

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Speaker 2: of things. Obviously, the consensus line is fifteen. There's fifteen

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Speaker 2: and a half's out there at bet MGM. You, as

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Speaker 2: we were talking about before we get on, are fandueled

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Speaker 2: in Jersey? Is that your only book by.

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Speaker 1: The way, No, you got it one I like the

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Speaker 2: That's also they give you better lines like I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: at DraftKings. That's all we have here in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 2: The lines are always tougher. Man, It's always like a

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Speaker 2: that's like the only book I'm seeing out there at

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Speaker 2: fourteen and a half. You lucky bastard. But that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Joe, and I didn't tell you this

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Speaker 2: mainly because if you are giving me an off route

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Speaker 2: off ramp. So I appreciate that. Here's my worry with it, though, Joe,

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Speaker 2: There's this whole thing, Joe, right where you've got a

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Speaker 2: You've got all these situations right now, you've got one

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Speaker 2: and the Jaguars think, like, of course they'll go. So

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Speaker 2: I think the lines are generally a little inflated. And second, historically,

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Speaker 2: think that that bodes a little bit better for them

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Speaker 2: The following week. They also had a lot of COVID

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Speaker 1: I'm not totally I think there's a lot of validity

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Speaker 1: to what you're saying. But if you watched last week,

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Speaker 1: They went up front, and that's something that I find

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Speaker 1: that demoralizing. You know, Yeah, when you guys got like

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Speaker 1: it's just like, look, do I want to do this anymore?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where I think eventually it's going

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Speaker 2: just this is the Niners against you know, the Rams.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's battling through some injuries. I'm sure. I think

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Speaker 2: well enough. You know, last week, forty nine Ers secondary

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Speaker 2: If so, it's a boon. But either way, ma'am, it's

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Speaker 2: just what happens with this game, right, the Rams and

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Speaker 3: When it comes to this team? I mean, this would

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Speaker 3: It does not exist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've got it right. And certainly in

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Speaker 3: I mean, what a shock.

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris going out conservative boy talk about staying on brand.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is the podcast I

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Speaker 1: And I can't believe it, And I think this game

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Speaker 1: And don't you think Tom Brady knows that the five

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Speaker 1: Defensively, I think you know when you've watched these teams

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Speaker 1: despite all the injuries with Godwin, despite Evans hamstering all

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00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 1: these things, He's gonna find a way to win this game.

436
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,919
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of important because I think

437
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,119
Speaker 1: the Bucks want to have a little momentum going into

438
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs and Brady's not one to come out of

439
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: games and rest, So if they're up by a lot

440
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, he'll come out. But Brady typically

441
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 1: does not like to come out of games. Brady typically

442
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 1: is somebody that's going to push and play hard. And

443
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,639
Speaker 1: I just don't see how Carolina keeps pace here with

444
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. That's the other thing too, And is there

445
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 1: an opportunity for a defensive score? And I think the

446
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 1: answer is yes, in which case, whenever you see a

447
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,600
Speaker 1: number that's greater than six or that you're struggling with,

448
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 1: if you think that there's opportunity for that, it's.

449
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 3: That defensive turnover, that defensive score.

450
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,720
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see a couple turnovers in

451
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 1: this game for the Carolina Panthers. So to me, I actually

452
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 1: like the Buccaneers despite the big number on.

453
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,400
Speaker 3: This one too.

454
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,359
Speaker 2: You know, I want you to explain something to me, Joe.

455
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 2: How is it that two weeks ago they go into

456
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 2: Carolina and they win thirty two to six. Now at home,

457
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,640
Speaker 2: this spread is eight, like and it's it by the way,

458
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 2: it was seven for a while, like it's moved up

459
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 2: a point. Are we here's my question, are we missing something.

460
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,679
Speaker 2: Are they You're.

461
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 3: Missing wide receivers, you're missing weapons.

462
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 2: They were out last skin though, Joe that they got

463
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 2: hurt in the Saints skin. This is after that. After that.

464
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: They're actually in better shape right now because they have

465
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 2: Mike Evans back. He's playing. So that's the thing I

466
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 2: I would have agreed to detail if Godwin and Evan's fine,

467
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 2: the running backs Okay, fine, now.

468
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 1: You don't even have pulling guys.

469
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 2: And but here's here's the thing. When when books set

470
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 2: the line, Okay, we have to be honest. They have

471
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,679
Speaker 2: more information than you and I do.

472
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 3: Why they build giant hotels.

473
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: My friend, you are correct, which is why I'm saying,

474
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: is it possible because everything you said is correct. Brady

475
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 2: doesn't like sit. They arians doesn't pull them. They played

476
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 2: their last game last year when they didn't really need to,

477
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 2: uh like they were and they need to by the

478
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 2: way here because now you're looking at a thing where

479
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: you've got a gimpy Mike Evans. You've got no God

480
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: when you've got no Brown like Brady needs time in

481
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: game action to develop a rapport with Grayson. Right with

482
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 2: all these guys, everything suggests they're not gonna sit like,

483
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: and Vegas is begging you, the books are begging you,

484
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: saying good take the bucks. They seem to just be

485
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: taking the stand here and that is the only thing

486
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: that makes me nervous about it, because other than that,

487
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: oh God, give me this. And what's worse, Joe is

488
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: at eight how many teasers? Is this going to be

489
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: a part of where people are gonna tease it down

490
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: to too? I'm already like, where's my other teaser piece?

491
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: This is clearly my teaser piece here you can get

492
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: under a field goal. So to me, Joe, that's my

493
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: I think the pig is correct. I absolutely feel flumm

494
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: with it. My only worry is like, do they somehow

495
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: know something that we don't, because otherwise this line makes

496
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,479
Speaker 2: absolutely no sense to me, you know what I mean? Like,

497
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: that's my only hesitation with it. Are we missing anything?

498
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 2: But everything you said seems correct, right, I don't think.

499
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't think we're missing anything on this one. I

500
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: think that's just them covering themselves a little bit because

501
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: of all the chaos that's also gone with.

502
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers in the last seven days. Yeah, all right,

503
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: a lot of chaos.

504
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes teams get distracted now, yeah, that's led

505
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: by Tom Brady and Bruce Arians. I don't think it's

506
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: going to correct. And I think that's also to the

507
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: point why it's really important that this team plays. It

508
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: gets on the field and goes past that distraction. Yeah,

509
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's very important for them.

510
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: So look, normally, you're right. Look, I completely agree with

511
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 1: you in the sense that they are smarter than us,

512
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: which is why they build those casitos and hotels. However,

513
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: in this instance, if I'm going to look for something

514
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 1: to invest in, and you look at this board, do

515
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: I want to invest in Bruce Arians and Tom Brady

516
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: and the defending Super Bowl champions against Carolina.

517
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

518
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: If I'm going to go down account, I'm gonna invest

519
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: in those guys as opposed to some other things because

520
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: I think there's some other lines that are inviting you

521
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: that I am think of traps and I'm staying away

522
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: from this one. I don't believe because I'm investing in

523
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: the guys at the top, and the guys at the

524
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 1: top at the end of the day are the ones

525
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: who usually get this done.

526
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: It just makes no sense to me, Joe, Like, it

527
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: really doesn't I'm to the point where I really I

528
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with it. You're over crazy, Yeah,

529
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: that's what. Oh, I'll bet it. Don't I'll walk into

530
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: a trap. I'm okay with it, so I'll buy with that,

531
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: all right. So that's a good one, Joe, I'm with you. Look, man,

532
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: I don't have I have a bunch of crazy stats

533
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: for this. This is me thinking that the Raiders are

534
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: just a vastly overrated team and that the Chargers are

535
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: a much better team. And I'm taking the Chargers on

536
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: the road in Vegas to beat the Raiders by three.

537
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: So I'm taking them, laying the three points. Now, Matt

538
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: Parralt has already taken the Raiders getting the three points.

539
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: I think it might be one of our picks of

540
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: the day over at Betting Pro. I don't really care.

541
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: I just think the Raiders are not a good team.

542
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: They've played three games in overtime, Joe, Like, they they

543
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: win these games, close games that they should lose, that

544
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: they somehow managed to do. They won three games in

545
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: a row to put themselves in this position. Their turnover

546
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: margin in their three victories negative seven. Like, this is

547
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 2: not a team that deserves to be in the playoffs

548
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: or is good enough and to be as fair as possible.

549
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: They've dealt with an enormous amount of turmoil this entire year,

550
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: between the Gruden and the Rugs thing. They've had no

551
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Darren Waller. He may return here, which is certainly something

552
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: that affects it because he does open up the offense.

553
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 2: But the Chargers pass defense, which is really good when

554
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: they're healthy, is finally healthy. The Raiders pass defense, which

555
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: at one point was good, has not been good. The

556
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: one real Achilles heel in this game is the Raiders

557
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: as the Chargers rush defense. But number one, they're getting

558
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 2: healthier in the rush defense, and you can see how

559
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: they are able to sort of play when that happens

560
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: at number two. Look, I like Josh Jacobs from a

561
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: fantasy perspective, From a prop perspective, Josh Jacobs was very

562
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: good to me this year because I was always a

563
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: little more bullish on him than the market was. But

564
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: he's not a guy who go there and it's going

565
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: to basically dominate a game anymore. Like that's just not

566
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: who he is to me. The Chargers are going to

567
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: win this game. If it's a field goal, it's not moving.

568
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: By the way, Joe, this is a field goal game.

569
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, you want something to worry about.

570
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: It's the fact that they could only need a tie

571
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: to win, and they could both lie down if everything

572
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: goes right. I think the Chargers win this game in Vegas,

573
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 2: and I think they win by more than a field goal.

574
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: So I'm taking the Chargers. I'm interested to know how

575
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: you feel about it, Joe, because again, I do know

576
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: people who are on the other side of this, and

577
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I understand why.

578
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm on your side of this one, okay, which again

579
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: I hate saying those.

580
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 3: Words, but I am.

581
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm on your side of this one, and I think

582
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: this game goes a long way if indeed the Chargers

583
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: win this football game, of shedding that label of the

584
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: same old Chargers who have a lot of talent but

585
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: always collapse in big spots. I think the difference is Herbert.

586
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference here. And Herbert tends to

587
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: show up in these big games too, which I like.

588
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: I think that's the mark of a great quarterback. And

589
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: you know, even in my early rankings so far on

590
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros and we turned over the year, like the

591
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: next day the season's over. Well, we turn over the

592
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: we're starting to look ahead. Herbert to me is an

593
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: elite quarterback.

594
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: He really is.

595
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: And I think Staley is a really good football coach.

596
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: I want to give the Raiders credit, and I want

597
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: to give the coaching staff credit for keeping this thing together,

598
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: just keeping it together as long as they have. That

599
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: they're ring into week eighteen is stunning, and I think

600
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: there's something about that that they're home, and you know,

601
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I think the energy there and I get all of that.

602
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm looking at

603
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: the defense, and I think you're right. I think the

604
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football here on the charter side,

605
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: is just much better. I also got the quarterback, and

606
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: those are the two things to me, when I'm making investments,

607
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: whether it be fantasy or whether it be wagering, defense

608
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: and quarterback play are the things you should be looking

609
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: at investing in. And I think the Chargers have that

610
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: more so than the Raiders, and that's why I think

611
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: it's a smarter investment.

612
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Now, if they lose this game, we'll go back.

613
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: To that same narrative and it's going to haunt them

614
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: all off season of Why couldn't you get your business

615
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: done in that big spot when it mattered. You're the

616
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: same charges we see every year. I think it's a

617
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: little different with Staley. But this game, I think is

618
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: at the end of the day going to either move

619
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: the needle forward or revert us right back to the

620
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: old thinking.

621
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: And I understand the I mean, look that the loss

622
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: of the Texans a couple of weeks ago was just horrible, right,

623
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: Like that's something we're like, come on, man, But you

624
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: look at the point score Joe over the last five

625
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: games against Cincinnati, pretty solid defense forty one against the

626
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: Giants thirty seven. They lost that game to Kansas City

627
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: and scored twenty eight points, and they had like three

628
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: times where they were down within like the three yard

629
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: line and they couldn't push it across. They obviously could

630
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: have scored even more. Against Houston they scored twenty nine.

631
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: Against Denver they scored thirty four. They're gonna put up points.

632
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: I do not see the Raiders putting up a twenty

633
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: eight spot in this game, Like, I just don't. And

634
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: I do think that the Chargers will against that Raiders

635
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: defense that just has not been nearly as good of late.

636
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm taking the Chargers. I feel okay about it.

637
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: I think they make it.

638
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: The one other thing too, when Abram got hurt, Yeah,

639
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: I think that craps the secondary significantly. And this is

640
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: and this is why when you play IDP right and

641
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: you are focused on all these kind of little things,

642
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: you see these things and you go, well, how that

643
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: gonn impact?

644
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: Because Abram was a terrifying guy back there.

645
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: That guy hits hard on the few guys that still

646
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: hits people back there, he hits him legally, he hits

647
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: and you take that guy out of that secondary, you

648
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: take away the fear factor for the wide receivers. And

649
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: that's a bad concoction potentially for this game.

650
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again just looking at the at the Raiders. Uh,

651
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, last several games, like they beat Dallas on Thanksgiving,

652
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: which is kind of a weird game that happened. They

653
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: lost to Washington seventeen fifteen, They got absolutely obliterated by

654
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs forty eight nine. They barely beat a Cleveland

655
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 2: team that was just completely decimated at that point and

656
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: was playing all backups and everything like that. Sixteen fourteen,

657
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: they barely got away with that game. They beat Denver

658
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: seventeen to thirteen when you had Drew Lock out there

659
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: and then they beat the Colts, who again, fine, the

660
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Colts also have a way of just sort of hanging

661
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: it stuff like that. This is not a good team man,

662
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: And kudos again, Joe, you said it. Kudos to that

663
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: coaching staff, Kudos to that whole team were holding it

664
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: together where they could have fallen apart forever ago. They're

665
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: not winning this game, I don't think, and I think

666
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: they lose a bit more film. Last pick, Joe, what

667
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: do you got?

668
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: Well?

669
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I talked about defense as Quintin, and we're talking about

670
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: trends and things like that. I think one of the

671
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: things I like the most is, you know, from a

672
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: DFS standpoint, we were on this game yesterday on the

673
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: podcast over on Fantasy Pro Side and just loving this

674
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: forty eight number with Arizona and Seattle. I mean, Seattle

675
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: another team. When you lose Jamal Adams at the secondary,

676
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: that's a big loss. And you've been able to throw

677
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: the ball aton on Seattle. So it helps Arizona because

678
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Arizona from an offensive standpoint, has been lackluster without their

679
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: key pieces, without DeAndre Hopkins and Connor has been, you know,

680
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of limping to the finish line here. We'll see

681
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: if he plays or not this week, but it's great.

682
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: To get Edmonds back.

683
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: I just think at the end of the day, historically,

684
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: when you look at these games too, and you look

685
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: at the way they played each other, these games tend

686
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: to be high scoring between these two and the Arizona

687
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: defense as as good as they were in the beginning

688
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: of the year, it's kind of flipped now. I don't

689
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: know if it's flip because the offense has been lackluster

690
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: and put them in bad spots too much or kept

691
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: them on the field too much. Fatigue fact injury though,

692
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: injuries too, but everybody's had injuries. They've really fallen off

693
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: in terms of points, in terms of when you're looking

694
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: at them, bigg giving up big plays and things like that.

695
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: So there's every opportunity here where the Seattle Seahawks, with

696
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: a very capable quarterback could want to say, hey, we'll

697
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: got to stick it to you guys at the end

698
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: in division game all that, I think that is certainly

699
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: a very viable narrative, and forty eight is just a

700
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: very low number for these two teams.

701
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: Anyway, let alone a week eighteen.

702
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: So, as far as I'm concerned, when you got two

703
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: stellar quarterbacks here, these are two QB one guys, and

704
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: there's incentives on the line for certain guys. Aj Green's

705
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: got incentives personally in this game. Yeah, I think you know,

706
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: seventy five yards is attainable for him. He's hit that

707
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times. It's a It's not an impossible number,

708
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: although maybe a challenging one at times. I think you

709
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: look at that. I think you look at the way

710
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: where shot Penny's played. Wilson certainly looks healthier than he

711
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: did six seven weeks ago. So, as far as I'm concerned,

712
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: the forty eight is too low. If I was setting this,

713
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: it will be a fifty one to begin with. Wow,

714
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: that it's still in the forty eight's, I think, to

715
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: me personally, just far too low for this game.

716
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's forty seven and a half at BETMGM. So

717
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: there you go. I am in agreement with you, Joe.

718
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: I hadn't really looked at this game very much, but

719
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: I think your points are right, and I think the

720
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: good part about it too, is like, because we are

721
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: in week eighteen, I'm sure, the Seahawks want to win

722
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: this game, obviously. The Cardinals need to win this game

723
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: if they have any shot of the division. I think

724
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: that you're going to see less of the let's run,

725
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, let's run the ball, let's punt it on

726
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: fourth and one, and they'll probably take more chances and

727
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: let Russ erit out a little bit more and try

728
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: to see what they can build on going into next year.

729
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: So I do think there are going to be points

730
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: in this game. And I like this call. I really

731
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: hadn't even thought about it before you brought it up,

732
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: so I'm in agreement with you. I like it. I'm

733
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: mad at myself for not being on it earlier, but yeah,

734
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you. So you know, Joe, there are times

735
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: when there are some really low over unders. This week's

736
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: some really low ones. You know what's fun when you

737
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: see a really really low over under and you go

738
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: under it. And that is what I'm doing with the

739
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Bengals at the Browns at thirty eight thirty eight. I'm

740
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: still going on it. There are a couple of reasons.

741
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: Number One, the weather actually is going to right now,

742
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: at least as we record this on Friday, the weather

743
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: forecast is bad in Cleveland. It's like the wins, right.

744
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: The wind Joe, for me, is really the one thing

745
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: that I think affects sort of right off of those.

746
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Two games last year where nobody could move the football.

747
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean those two.

748
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Games were what like ten to seven field.

749
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not kidding, like I honestly think like

750
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 2: this is a game that ends at like twenty points,

751
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: like it really, I mean I wouldn't bet like an

752
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: overhudder there. But at thirty eight it's going to be

753
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: really windy. You're gonna have the Bengals not having anybody

754
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: in there because you know Burrow's not going to play.

755
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: You know, Mixing's already out. They don't want anybody to

756
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: get hurt in this game. There's no reason for them

757
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: to risk anything. And the Browns obviously no Mayfield. Look,

758
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: no teams don't tank, Joe. Okay, teams don't tank. But

759
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: the difference right now, because all those teams are bunched up,

760
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: the difference between getting the number four, see the finishing

761
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: fourth in that division versus finishing third, it's actually going

762
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: to be pretty big in terms of schedule next year,

763
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: right Instead of getting the Dolphins. You're gonna get the

764
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: Jets right instead of get you know, that sort of

765
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: type of thing. I think they play the I think

766
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: with the eighteen, I think they go against fourth place

767
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 2: in the division, in the NFC East. I believe if

768
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: memory serves, which means you get the Giants, like there's

769
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: there's a good reason to come and last in that division.

770
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: And I just think I'm not saying that they're gonna

771
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: outright like Tank. I just think that they're not that

772
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: motivated to basically put everything out, you know, with Chub

773
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: Joe again, what did we if Chubb either got banged

774
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: up last week or whether or not. They're just like,

775
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: who cares if we beat Pittsburgh. At this point, we're

776
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: not gonna take any chances. We're gonna rest them, maybe

777
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: put in our backups just to see like they're not

778
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: going to risk anybody within reason. They're not going to

779
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: do anything crazy. You've got backups, you've got bad weather,

780
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: You've got no incentive for either team to give a

781
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: crap about this game. Thirty eight points with the weather.

782
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: The weather is a big deal for me. If it

783
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: clears up, I'm gonna I may be regretting this but

784
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: if it's I think you're just gonna see, you know,

785
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: samaj p Ryan and you know Dearanis Johnson run the

786
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: ball forty times in this game and get the heck

787
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: out of there. Low total, Joey, I'm still going under

788
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: thirty eight points? Is that crazy? Is it crazy to

789
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: go under?

790
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Especially the win factor because you know, I've been to

791
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: that stadium and it's I mean, yeah, oh it is.

792
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: The wind factor is is huge off that river at times,

793
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: and you saw it last year in those games were

794
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: just completely destroyed the productivity.

795
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: You could not basically throw the football.

796
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: And it's always funny to because people hyperventilate about rain

797
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm like, well, like some guys can throw

798
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: the ball in the rain. It's a fine, like this

799
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: torrential downpour. And even then I've seen games where it's

800
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: it's odd because you can end up breaking a small

801
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: pass for a very long run after, you know, because

802
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: somebody slips and falls down and all that stuff. So

803
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: it's the wind factor that to me always always impacts

804
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: totals far more than the rain fact. People the rain

805
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: and they freak out, but they should be looking at

806
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the wind more often, especially in places like Cleveland where

807
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: you've seen it play out in games before. So if

808
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: it is up to those gusts where it was similar

809
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: to those games last season and there were two of them.

810
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: If memory serves last year with Baker Mayfield.

811
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: That it was just it was almost like comical. You're like, well,

812
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: they're just gonna run the football million.

813
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Time, right, I mean think about the Bills and the

814
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: h and the Pats right this year, they maybe right

815
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: that game right, And I don't think it's supposed to

816
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: be that bad, but I do like when I checked

817
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: last night, Jobe was sustained twenty five sustained twenty five

818
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: mile hour wins. That's field goes by the way out

819
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: the window right like to another thing, extra point like

820
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: it just everything to me screams to the under. So

821
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: I don't mind. I want to talk about the spread

822
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: when we get to that game. So I'll recap all

823
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: of our six best bets of the weekend afterwards. I

824
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: do Joe very quickly want to hyper speed run through

825
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: the remaining spread. Is that quol with you? Yes, sir,

826
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: Let's go Saturday. The Chiefs are laying eleven in Denver

827
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: to the Broncos. Obviously, the Chiefs still have a chance

828
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: at the number one seed if the Texans beat the Titans,

829
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: which they did earlier in the year, so they're motivated

830
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: to win. I think it's still gonna be Drew Lock

831
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: in this game, although I haven't I haven't seen anything.

832
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: Although it's Bridgewater on IR, I don't know. I think

833
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Drew Lock regardless of what you got,

834
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs slaying eleven.

835
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: I'll take the Chiefs side of this one.

836
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna win big?

837
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I think after last week, I think they need to

838
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: to be honest with you.

839
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you want to get the you want

840
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: to end.

841
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: Up going into this season for them because they they

842
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: had it up until last week, but now they I

843
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: mean it's kind of mentally important. I think it just

844
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: like they're just a team that far out classes the

845
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos right now in terms of quarterback played. And

846
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: once again, you can invest in quarterback and Andy Reid

847
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes, or you can invest in Drew Lock.

848
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: And Vic Fangio.

849
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna write yeah. On the other side, Bridgewater is

850
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: out for the season, by the way. My poll and Locke,

851
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: by the way is banged up as well, so already

852
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: bad to worse. Yeah, it's eleven. I'm probably I'm probably

853
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: just gonna player prop this one. I'm not gonna I'm

854
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: not gonna get mountain the spread. Cowboys are laying four

855
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: and a half to the Eagles. Joe, when we looked

856
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: at a Monday, I think it was seven, maybe we

857
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: like we were like, WHOA what is this? Cowboys are

858
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: going to play to win reportedly, and again McCarthy has

859
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: a history of resting players and that not working out

860
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: for him very well going into the playoffs. Don't know

861
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: exactly what the Eagles are going to do now, other

862
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: than the fact that the entire team is on the

863
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: COVID list four and a half.

864
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Joe, what do you think I'm still tempted to on

865
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: the Eagles side?

866
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: Is hurt isn't on there? As long as Hurts isn't

867
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: on there?

868
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: You No, Hurts is not. But even if you were,

869
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: Joe going to kill you Like, no, he's not.

870
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: Look, you know, my my faith in the Cowboys is tricky,

871
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons is out for this game to correct

872
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: Also Grave that's another piece where if you're taking somebody

873
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: out of this game. You're taking the best defensive player

874
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: right now in that conference arguably off.

875
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a big one too. So I'm still on

876
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: the eagle side.

877
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: But remember when we were here on Tuesday, we were

878
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: talking about six and a half or something.

879
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: I was like, it was it was seven in a

880
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: lot of books.

881
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Let's get the eagle side now before he did, it's

882
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: a shrink and look, ye there is a four and

883
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: a half.

884
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all.

885
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, rare time. We made the right call on that

886
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: one on Monday. So yeah, I agree, that's exactly right.

887
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: And if you know, I wouldn't mind making the Eagles

888
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: part of a teaser piece. Get him up to over

889
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: ten ten and a half. Steelers are visiting the Ravens.

890
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: They're plus five. I'm still not expecting Lamar Jackson to

891
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: play here. He's not practicing. I mean, for either one

892
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: of these teams, they both have something to play for

893
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: because they're not mathematically eliminated, but for either one to

894
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: make the playoffs requires a confluence of events that is

895
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: just almost impossible to imagine at this point. So you

896
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: want to go with Mike Tomlin on the road as

897
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: an underdog in games that are historically tight show or

898
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: you think the Ravens are going to finish on the

899
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: high note.

900
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, this is a game I'm out on Tuesday

901
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: and I'm out on Friday. Just all right, because these

902
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: are this is the rivalry game. They seems hate each

903
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: other in way, there's a respect factor. They don't care

904
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: about playoffs. It was like, look, you know, it's been

905
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: a disappointing season. Do we want to end it on

906
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: a high note. I think both teams do so. This

907
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: is not like phoning it in. These teams are gonna

908
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: go at it and it's gonna be a close game,

909
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: too close, if anything. I'll take the Steelers on the

910
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: five side of that one, because I think that's actually

911
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of a high number.

912
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: I think if you had to go on one way,

913
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: I would go with the Steelers just because it's my

914
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: top five and that's pretty now to be for you,

915
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: it's four and a half. For me, it's actually four.

916
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: It's five and a lot of other books.

917
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: Well, on the consensus betting pros it's plus five.

918
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: That's right exactly. I don't I don't really want it.

919
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: If I have to go one, well, I'll go to

920
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Just because I do think that you get

921
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Mike Tom on the road. And again these games, like

922
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: if these games fall outside of a three point window,

923
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: it's weird because they've been playing like that basically historically,

924
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: Titans visiting the Texans, Joe, they are laying ten. That

925
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: sounds eerily familiar. Titans Texans. Titans laying ten didn't end

926
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: well for the Titans last time. Obviously, the Titans are

927
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: playing for the number one seed. I guess no, I

928
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: don't even know. It's not possible. Actually, they can't wrap

929
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: it up before them, Titans laying ten? What do you think?

930
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: This is the trap one?

931
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: To me? This is the one that terrifies me. Remember before,

932
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: there's a trap one on here. That's a big number

933
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: that I think is a huge trap. But like that's

934
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: the one. I mean theoretically, yeah, the Titan should absolutely

935
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: handle their business.

936
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: The Titans may get Derrick Henry back, so we're still not.

937
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: I don't think for this game, right, I mean it's I.

938
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: Don't think it's realistic. I don't think they should push him,

939
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: but this.

940
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: Is I think that's his ideal though, right, and they

941
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: get the buye. They practice him this week, they practice

942
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: him next week.

943
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: Tan his game, but the ten is just not a

944
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: number I'm comfortable with. With the Titans and Davis Mills

945
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: has played DCS down the stretch.

946
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm out so.

947
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: Much better than I expected. I'll be honest, like in

948
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: his rookie season. Uh yeah, I'm staying away from it.

949
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: I want to for the Titans, but I it's too

950
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: many points for me to back them. For sure. Bengals

951
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: are visiting the Browns. We just talked about, Joe. The

952
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Bengals are getting six, and I'm gonna be frank with you, Joe.

953
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: I almost made this one of my picks, the Bengals

954
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: getting six, because I realize that they're playing all back up.

955
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: But again, I don't think the Browns are very motivated

956
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: to win this game, and you're gonna have crazy win,

957
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: which is like an equalizer and everything like that. So

958
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: I would just take the team getting almost a touchdown

959
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: in this one if I have to go one way.

960
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: But it's also a game that I had absolutely no

961
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: interest in being in on other than rooting against scoring overall.

962
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: What do you think?

963
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: Well? I think I have more faith in case Keenom

964
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: than Brandon Allen for sure, and that's the hard part,

965
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: and that's what makes it so tricky as you're dealing

966
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: with not one, but two backup quarterbacks. So I don't know, Man,

967
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: this is another game that I just I think you're right.

968
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonnapproach this game, it's the under

969
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: from the lot of the factors we talked about, and

970
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: you stay away from the line.

971
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Personally, Vikings playing five and a half at home against

972
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: the bear sounds like it's gonna be fields returning for

973
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: this game. So not sure what that does for you,

974
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Joe when you think about the team. But what do

975
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: you think five and a half kind of a dead

976
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: number just sitting there?

977
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you take the Bear side? I mean, what

978
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: about the Vikings hasn't meant that they collapse and make

979
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: games close and have a lead and blow it every time?

980
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing that can And I almost

981
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: made this one of my picks because I was looking

982
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: at I was like, have I learned nothing from the

983
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one football season about the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah,

984
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: the miniesulta Vikings should win this game handily, But do

985
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: they ever win a game handily? They're supposed to do No,

986
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: do they end up in these games where they're winning

987
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: by less than three?

988
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 3: Yes?

989
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: Do they have a touchdown in every single game and

990
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: then somehow lose that lead? Pretty much up until week seventeen, Yeah,

991
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: that was the case. So I don't know. At a

992
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: certain point when do we You don't have to get

993
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: beat over the head with it. I think if I'm

994
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: gonna be in on this game, it's gonna be on

995
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: the Bear side, so I would lean towards the Bear side.

996
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: I st don't like betting it because I'm betting a quarterback,

997
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback on the road, and two head coaches

998
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: that are basically I mean, I think both are probably

999
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: done at the end of the year.

1000
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: I think it matters what happens in this game.

1001
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: But this one's gonna be fun, I think from a

1002
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, because I think everything's just gonna hang out

1003
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: for this one.

1004
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 3: But it's just gonna be All bets are off.

1005
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Man to me, the bear side

1006
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: jumps out because of everything we've seen out of the

1007
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Bengals stessh, I mean the Vikings. I don't think the

1008
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Vikings are gonna lose, but I don't think that they're

1009
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: gonna win by running away either.

1010
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: When has that been the Vikings? HEMO this year?

1011
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: That's true, they do not run away with any victories.

1012
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: I just want nothing to do with this game at all, Like, no,

1013
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea what I'm going to see. And again,

1014
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: a totally meaningless game though, right like this is the

1015
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: spot where you can see the Vikings do really well. Right,

1016
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: like a totally meaningless game. Nobody gives a crap about it.

1017
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: They'll blow them out by you know, forty points. So

1018
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: I just I'm staying away from it and no idea

1019
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: what to expect. This one's an interesting one, Joe. The

1020
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: Lions are getting three and a half from the Packers.

1021
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: This went from saying, Okay, the Packers are going to

1022
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: rest everybody to you know, Lafour coming out and saying

1023
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: we're not gonna rest. We've looked at it historically. That

1024
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: doesn't do people well. But you have Aaron Rodgers, who

1025
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: what is the point of getting a buy and not

1026
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: giving the guy who's basically been dealing with the toe

1027
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: injury forever like an extra week of rest. So three

1028
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: and a half points here, Joe, what do you think I.

1029
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Like the Lions side of this one. The plus three off,

1030
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: I see it's plus four at bet MGM. It's because

1031
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: of how much Jordan Love. I think we're gonna see

1032
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna see Aaron Rodgers of this game, because I

1033
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: don't think if you look historically, the comp layoff for

1034
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: two plus weeks.

1035
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: Has been a good thing. Y hasn't it just happened me?

1036
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: These guys come out flat, and there's a part of

1037
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: me they wouldn't mind seeing that necessarily. But at the

1038
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: same time, I think you'll see Rogers for maybe a

1039
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: quarter a couple series, and then it hands over to

1040
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. And from what I've seen of Jordan Love

1041
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: and what I've seen of Dan Campbell getting his team

1042
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: fired up to play football every week. Somehow despite all

1043
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: of the negga, I mean, we look up right now,

1044
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: they're what four win team.

1045
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Right thirteen and one, so they have a chance.

1046
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: So I was thinking they could be a four win

1047
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: team here, but I forgot about the tie. They're not.

1048
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna show up as they always do

1049
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: and play strong. And at the end of the day,

1050
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: is Jordan Love gonna make some mistakes? Yeah? And I

1051
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: think that's enough for me to be on the Lion's

1052
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: side of this one. And it just really depends on

1053
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: is this is not a great investable game because you

1054
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: don't know how long Aaron Rodgers is going to play.

1055
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: If he plays one series and he's out all of

1056
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: a sudden, that line line looks really good. You know

1057
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: what this is? This is a game that if you

1058
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: like in game betting, this is a.

1059
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: Game boom that's right. Ready, This is.

1060
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: The Roer betting line of the week, this.

1061
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: One Rogers is in for the first series, they score

1062
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: a touchdown, the in game line jumps up. Bet the

1063
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: line bet there. Then I think I think Rogers plays

1064
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: the series. I think he plays one series with the

1065
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 2: starters and then is out because if.

1066
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: I'd be enough to get seven, and then when he

1067
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: gets the seven, you turn around and go, okay, go

1068
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: right to the Lions in game right by this freak in.

1069
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: Game Yeah, but I would take it at three and

1070
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: a half if I had to that. That is the

1071
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: spot that I like it as well. Again, not one

1072
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: of my picks, but it is there. Joe the Washington

1073
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: football team seven to the Giants. What do you think, girls?

1074
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: Do I have to watch this game.

1075
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: Do you do you're contractually obligated?

1076
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: Horrendous? I don't.

1077
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I own nothing to do with this, Like I just

1078
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I love to say, yeah, it's just Washington and a

1079
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: romp and things like that, but I don't know if

1080
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: they've got the goods to really, you know, just handle anybody.

1081
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: And they make mistakes at the worst time. Every time

1082
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: high he makes a bad mistake. So I know I'm

1083
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: out on this game. This is another trap one to

1084
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: me because it should be completely that and if the

1085
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: Giants not only covered but won this football game, like

1086
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: you is that? Is that gonna shock anybody?

1087
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: Now?

1088
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Seven points?

1089
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Ugh?

1090
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: Disgusting?

1091
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, three and a half I'd go, okay, well look

1092
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: give him a shot or four?

1093
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they pass over that touchdown. It's like they're

1094
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna be pissed at Joe Judge. For sure, they're gonna

1095
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: want to win this game. But whatever, Yeah, it's too much.

1096
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: I can't back the Giants for sure, but I can't

1097
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: back anybody in this one. Pats are laying six to

1098
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. They historically struggle in Miami. What do you

1099
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: think here, Joe Tom.

1100
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: Brady historically struggles in Miami, So I point that out

1101
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: when you have weather typically that's been very hot and

1102
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: things like that, especially in the beginning of the seasons.

1103
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: Those are the games that Brady had struggled in. I

1104
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: think there was a stat out there. I remember seeing

1105
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: it last year or before he went to Florida. Somebody

1106
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: put it out there. But it's like, do you really

1107
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: want to be a buccaneer, Tom, you know, because they

1108
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: showed you, you know, in games of eighty five degrees

1109
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: or more or something like that, like Tom Brady's well

1110
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: they had one win or something crazy like that.

1111
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, career.

1112
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say this. I think that.

1113
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: Last week the Dolphins got punched in the mouth a

1114
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: little bit and they're staggering, and I feel like the

1115
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: momentum right now is all on the Patriots side. I

1116
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: feel like them the Patriots feel good about themselves there

1117
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: beating up of the Jaguars.

1118
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: They lost the two.

1119
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: Competitive games that they had left on the schedule, right

1120
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: so they had the Colts.

1121
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: They lost that one.

1122
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: I think they got a little a little you know,

1123
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of high falutint and then they competed with Buffalo.

1124
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: But really, at the end of the day, Buffalo handed

1125
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: it to him. So this was a good bounce back

1126
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: for them last week against the Jaguars where they get

1127
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: back on track and all that. But the Dolphins game here,

1128
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: this is a very tricky one. If anything, I think

1129
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots win, but I think the Dolphins of the

1130
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: plus six is the smart way to go about this.

1131
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right, Joe. I think I'm probably

1132
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: gonna stay away from it. I haven't had a good

1133
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: reado on the Pats all year at being transparent, like

1134
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: I just haven't. So it strikes me if that's correct.

1135
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: But it's probably a game I'll stay away from as

1136
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: I will. This one sounds like you may be in

1137
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: on it. Bill's playing sixteen to the Jets. J Ets,

1138
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: j Ets, What do you think, Joe, sixteen?

1139
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: It's a lot. And you know, here's what happened.

1140
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: I look, you get sixteen and a half at fand

1141
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: old body.

1142
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: I was looking around.

1143
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let me look at the

1144
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: game log for the Bills and how many games are

1145
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: they blowing out people? And there's enough blowouts for the

1146
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: Bills in the second half of the season where I go, no,

1147
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: I can't really do this. But after watching the Jets

1148
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: last week, I kind of feel like the Jets few like, well,

1149
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: we can at least kind of be competitive here, and I.

1150
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: Think it's a big.

1151
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: Boost for you when you can compete for a few

1152
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: quarters with the raigning champions. And I think Wilson's looking

1153
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: more confident if they get Elijah Moore back for this

1154
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: game and Barrios has played well, why can't you compete?

1155
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: Why can't you and garbage time get some point. There's

1156
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: variables here that make it very tempting, but it's said,

1157
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm just going to stay away from it because it

1158
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: is the Jets at the end of the day, and

1159
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Goodness knows, I just can't trust them.

1160
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: But I want to, Dan, I really want to.

1161
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: So do I. But I'm staying away well just because

1162
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: I think that we've seen enough where you see the

1163
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: Jets kind of randomly look borderline competent on offense and

1164
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Wilson look okay, and then he lays the dud. I'm

1165
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: hoping that you see him build on last week, in

1166
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: which case, from a completely personal fan standpoint, that you

1167
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: can feel because I do think that Wilson has played

1168
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: better of late in recent weeks, and certainly this last game.

1169
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: If he does again here you can feel confident in him.

1170
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: For me, I'm not there yet, so I'm just gonna

1171
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: take a step back. Hope they play this one close.

1172
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: If I had to take a side, it would be

1173
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: the Jets. We talked about the total in this game, though,

1174
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: how do you see the spreadshoe with the Seahawks and

1175
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: the cards. It's six and a half right now across

1176
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: the board everywhere.

1177
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: Give me the Seahawks with the six and a half

1178
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: because the Arizona Cardinals don't put teams away, they just don't.

1179
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think that's right. I think

1180
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: that this game will be closer than sort of people expect,

1181
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: and I think that's why the books are kind of

1182
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: laying it. I think the books are begging you to

1183
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: basically tease the cards down, like they're saying, God, teasing

1184
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: down to half point, see what happens. Like, well, now,

1185
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised to Seahawks on this game. Again,

1186
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: Second divisional games are always tricky anyway, so who knows about.

1187
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: That this one?

1188
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: Joe, I had very mixed feelings about these Saints are

1189
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: visiting the Falcons. They're laying three and a half. You

1190
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: saw the Falcons have a big game against them. The

1191
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: Saints do not score points. They just don't score points. So,

1192
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, Joe, what do you think here?

1193
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Three and a half Falcons at home?

1194
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 3: Gross? I want nothing to do with this game either.

1195
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: I just I don't have a beat on it, especially

1196
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: after the last week with the Falcons were competitive for

1197
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: half a football against the Bills in the snow. Who

1198
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: the hell saw that coming? Like, I just, I know,

1199
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm Jostradamus. But at the same time, I mean, I

1200
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: was watching the Falcons there and I'm watching them in

1201
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: the snow, and I'm watching it was like a fifteen

1202
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: to twelve game. At one point, I go, what in

1203
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: God's name am I watching right now? How are the

1204
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Falcons even in this? And then you add in the

1205
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: fact that Kyp has been doing with that hamstring injury,

1206
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: like he's that weapon they have left.

1207
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1208
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that's tough too, because he's got that that.

1209
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: You know, milestone obviously can be that, I know, but

1210
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: but he's banged up, I.

1211
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: Know, push him for a milestone.

1212
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: It strikes me, Joe. As he plays, he runs a

1213
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: couple of routes he catches a pass and then he's like,

1214
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't go right, Like that's that's really

1215
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: what it seems like. Yeah, I'm with you if I'm

1216
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: forced to go though one way, Joe, I'm going to

1217
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: take overfield goal at this point because how many points

1218
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 2: are the Saints put up, like seventeen, Maybe the Falcons

1219
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: can fide their way to that. Obviously, the Saints are

1220
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: playing for something. If they win the Niner sues, they're

1221
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, so they're motivated, but again, I don't

1222
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: really think that matters necessarily. All Right, that's it. This

1223
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: is my final podcast. As we said, Joe, it was enjoyable.

1224
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for making my final podcast fun.

1225
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Let's recap very quickly the bets. Let me see if

1226
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: I have it right, Joe, you correct me. If I

1227
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 2: have your bets in correct, you're taking the Colts. We'll

1228
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: give minus fifteen. You can get it fourteen and a half.

1229
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: Though the Bucks are laying eight, and the Cards and

1230
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: the Seahawks over forty eight. You're also sprinkling on the

1231
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: San Francisco money line at plus one seventy two. I'm

1232
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: going to be a coward and just take the points

1233
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers getting four and a half

1234
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: from the Ram the jack No, I'm not taking the

1235
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: Jags actually because I know you can't. Chargers, Charger, Jaguars,

1236
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: you got it right. The Chargers though, laying three to

1237
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders and the Bengals and the Browns and the

1238
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: Wind Bowl and the Backup Bowl under thirty eight points.

1239
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: It has been a pleasure hosting this podcast. Joe has

1240
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: been hosting the College Football podcast and the non NFL

1241
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: podcast for the whole year. He's going to take you

1242
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: to the finish line to the super Bowl with this podcast. Joe,

1243
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: it's been a pleasure. I appreciate you joining me today,

1244
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: and please don't screw up the NFL side of the

1245
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: podcast into the future. Can you do that for me?

1246
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: No promises, Dan, but I will try. I will try

1247
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: my best to keep it going.

1248
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: But again, thanks for having me on today, and I

1249
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: hope at least for you, there's nobody else that you

1250
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: wanted to finish your last podcast here Fantasy Pros with,

1251
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: because I know I wanted to be on the show with.

1252
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 3: You today, so it was fun as usual. My friend.

1253
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: I'll miss year.

1254
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: You were definitely my top eighteen of people to have

1255
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: on this. The first was twenty first, seventeen declined, but

1256
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: you were here anyway. I appreciate everybody. Good luck with

1257
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: your bets again Sunday Morning Betting prosy Livestream, YouTube, dot Com,

1258
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Slash betting pros Matt Pearl and I bringing down, giving

1259
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: out some player props, all that good stuff. That will

1260
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: be my final public appearance on as a part of

1261
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: fans Rosa Betting Pro. So I'll talk to you that

1262
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: in the meantime, enjoy the snow, Joe, go go shovel

1263
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: some snow. I'm gonna go snowblowing my driveway and I'll

1264
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: talk to again on Tip