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Speaker 1: You'll take the stuff that I shoot and then you'll
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Speaker 1: I may bring them on from now and then. So
Speaker 1: my goal if you listen to this show is to
Speaker 1: make it the most useful thing that you listen to.
Speaker 2: That is always my goal.
Speaker 1: So when I talk about stuff, when I choose the topics,
Speaker 1: when I discuss things, it is all for you. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm not going to get to everything that
Speaker 1: happens in the tech world.
Speaker 2: In fact, I say it in the beginning of.
Speaker 1: The show, I say, this is the show where I
Speaker 1: talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about.
Speaker 1: It's the stuff that I believe is important for your
Speaker 1: life because we are modern tech animals. We are people
Speaker 1: that are using technology, sometimes against our will. We all
Speaker 1: have a phone, we all have a computer, a tablet,
Speaker 1: or you know, a combination of some of those things,
Speaker 1: and sometimes we just have to use them to survive
Speaker 1: in this world. And so I figured today would be
Speaker 1: a good day to share some of the apps that
Speaker 1: I use on my phones that I love. And I
Speaker 1: say phones because I typically carry an iPhone with me
Speaker 1: and then I'm typically testing an Android. And it used
Speaker 1: to be the other way around. I used to carry
Speaker 1: an Android and then test on the iPhone. But I've
Speaker 1: sort of flipped, and I flip flop every once in
Speaker 1: a while. But when I wrote a book about the
Speaker 1: iPhone that really kind of solidified. I started using it
Speaker 1: every day and just kind of started, you know, getting
Speaker 1: used to it. So let me go ahead and give
Speaker 1: you some of the apps that I really like. So
Speaker 1: number one, you have to write all these down. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put them down on the notes on the website.
Speaker 1: So Number one, email me. This is probably what I
Speaker 1: use the most on a daily basis. This is a
Speaker 1: very handy little app that lives on my iPhone home
Speaker 1: screen and it allows me to email myself anything I need. Now,
Speaker 1: I've tried all the to do lists and all that
Speaker 1: stuff and the notes, and I do use those apps.
Speaker 1: But to me, email me is so easy because my
Speaker 1: email inbox is sort of my ongoing to do list,
Speaker 1: and so I can just email myself a note, an article,
Speaker 1: someone's phone number, whatever, and then it's in my inbox
Speaker 1: and then when I sit down to my computer, I
Speaker 1: can deal with it. Now on Android, there is not
Speaker 1: the same app, but the most similar app I've found
Speaker 1: is called Boomerang, and that one works in kind of.
Speaker 2: Like the same way. So those are my two handiest apps.
Speaker 1: After that, I have an app called Pocket, and this
Speaker 1: is an app that allows me to read something later.
Speaker 1: So I surf the web all day and I find
Speaker 1: an article that I like, and I will save it
Speaker 1: in Pocket to read it later. Ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: percent of the time, as soon as an article goes
Speaker 1: into pocket. It is guaranteed I will never read it
Speaker 1: ever again in my lifetime. I don't know why that happens,
Speaker 1: it's just the way it is. So I need to
Speaker 1: get better about actually reading the articles. Most of the time,
Speaker 1: when I'm on the plane and I'm bored, I will say, oh,
Speaker 1: let me, let me try this, and I'll read something
Speaker 1: in my pocket. Google Photos is my preferred photo app.
Speaker 1: I love Google Photos because I've been taking photos everywhere
Speaker 1: I've gone for ten fifteen years. Now they're all in
Speaker 1: Google Photos. I wish I had more from the early days.
Speaker 1: I've digitized a bunch. But what I love about Google
Speaker 1: Photos is the ability to find any photo I've ever
Speaker 1: taken anywhere with just a keyworder two. It is incredible
Speaker 1: and my collection continues to grow in there. Microsoft to Do,
Speaker 1: I've tried all the to do lists. Microsoft to Do
Speaker 1: is my absolute favorite. The reason it just works. It
Speaker 1: works cross platform. It works on all my computers and devices,
Speaker 1: and you can add files to your to do list,
Speaker 1: which is really handy. If it's like a document or
Speaker 1: something that you need to like email someone or whatever,
Speaker 1: you can just throw it into the to do list,
Speaker 1: into the actual item and it works. One of the
Speaker 1: newer apps that I've been testing that I really like
Speaker 1: is called my Mind. And what's cool about this is
Speaker 1: it's sort of like a bookmarking app, but it's a
Speaker 1: place to remember all of your notes, images, quotes, highlights, whatever.
Speaker 1: And it's a really neat app because what it does
Speaker 1: is it automatically tags the things that you put in there,
Speaker 1: So if you put an article in there or a quote,
Speaker 1: it will actually look at that item and come up
Speaker 1: with a whole bunch of tag so that later on
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, I remember that book I wanted
Speaker 1: to read, and it will. You can just search book
Speaker 1: and it will find all the books that you've bookmarked,
Speaker 1: or all the movies, or if you want to say
Speaker 1: it was a movie about baseball, it will find anything
Speaker 1: about baseball, So that's really handy. When it comes to hiking.
Speaker 1: All Trails is one of my favorites. This is really
Speaker 1: cool because it finds trails everywhere around the world and
Speaker 1: it gives you information about them. Artifact is a new
Speaker 1: one that I really like. This is from the creators
Speaker 1: of Instagram, or at least one of them, and it's
Speaker 1: just a new spin on a news app, and it's
Speaker 1: got some really really handy features and it learns as
Speaker 1: you read articles on it what you like and tries
Speaker 1: to present more of those. Now I think it's a
Speaker 1: little heavy handed in that because I feel like I
Speaker 1: see a lot of the same stuff over and over.
Speaker 1: But again, it's learning and it's evolving.
Speaker 2: When it comes to.
Speaker 1: Travel, a ward wallet is my absolute favorite app for
Speaker 1: keeping track of everything that I'm doing. All of my reservations,
Speaker 1: it organizes them and it puts it into this really
Speaker 1: neat timeline called my Trips, and it's just fantastic. Anything
Speaker 1: I've done, any hotel I'm staying at, any tickets I
Speaker 1: have for anything, it's all in this main list.
Speaker 2: I can find it so easily.
Speaker 1: Backdrops This is one of my favorites because it helps
Speaker 1: me find wallpapers for all of my devices and they're
Speaker 1: just really cool slick.
Speaker 2: I think there's a paid version of this app.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever paid for it, but it's
Speaker 1: really handy and it's just great, great backgrounds for all
Speaker 1: of my devices, and it's called back Drops and it
Speaker 1: works on iOS and Android. When it comes to editing,
Speaker 1: Splice is my absolute favorite editing app. It works on iPhone,
Speaker 1: it works on Android. So far, I've paid for it
Speaker 1: on iPhone, but somehow I can't figure out how to
Speaker 1: get my paid subscription on Androids, So that's definitely a downside.
Speaker 1: But I really like that app for editing. I don't
Speaker 1: think it gets much better on your phone than Splice.
Speaker 1: What three Words This is a really interesting app. I
Speaker 1: love what they've done. They have sliced up the entire
Speaker 1: world into these ten by ten squares. So if you
Speaker 1: want to give someone your exact location. Let's say you
Speaker 1: want them to meet you at the back door entrance
Speaker 1: to a restaurant or something that's just an example, or
Speaker 1: a specific entrance to a park, you can narrow it
Speaker 1: down and give them directions to that exact area. Unlike
Speaker 1: Google Maps that'll just kind of bring you to the park,
Speaker 1: this will give you that ten by ten square that
Speaker 1: is precise. So if you want someone to meet you
Speaker 1: in a precise place, What three Words is such a
Speaker 1: great app for that. When it comes to journaling, I
Speaker 1: really like Day one. It's a fantastic app for keeping notes.
Speaker 1: Fig is a really good app. Fig If you have
Speaker 1: someone with an allergy in your family, this lets you
Speaker 1: scan a barcode and it will tell you if that
Speaker 1: allergen is in that barcode. It's a really really handy app.
Speaker 1: Flighty is, of course an app we've talked about on
Speaker 1: this show, which is an app that will help you
Speaker 1: track all of your flights. Flip is an app flipp
Speaker 1: This categorizes all of the flyers that these companies put out,
Speaker 1: like Target and Best Buy. And if you want to
Speaker 1: search for an item on sale. Let's say you love
Speaker 1: your face toothpaste, but you want to find it on
Speaker 1: sale somewhere, search it and flip and you can see
Speaker 1: exactly where it's on sale. Gemini is my favorite app
Speaker 1: for finding duplicate photos on my camera roll.
Speaker 2: This one is iOS only.
Speaker 1: It also may be paid for like eventually, but it's
Speaker 1: a really handy app for finding duplicates. I Exit is
Speaker 1: also one of my favorites for road trips. For when
Speaker 1: you're looking for a specific fast food up ahead. You
Speaker 1: can see everything by exit up ahead. Plus they have
Speaker 1: gas prices and all that stuff. But I Exit is
Speaker 1: really good. All right, I think that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for these apps right now. I'll put some more on
Speaker 1: my list at richontech Dot TV because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what's coming up on the show here. But Media
Speaker 1: or met e O R is my favorite speed test app.
Speaker 1: So those are just a couple of apps that I use.
Speaker 1: If you have an app that you like, tweet me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at rich on Tech and I will include
Speaker 1: some of those as well.
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on.
Speaker 1: Today's show, I'm gonna explain why Netflix wants you to
Speaker 1: pay up if you're sharing your password.
Speaker 2: We've got some great guests this week.
Speaker 1: Daniel Rubino is going to join me to talk about
Speaker 1: Microsoft's latest AI announcements.
Speaker 2: Jim Steier is.
Speaker 1: Going to talk about the Surgeon General's warning about social
Speaker 1: media and teens, and later we'll talk about Ford and
Speaker 1: Tesla with the editor at clean Fleet Report. All right,
Speaker 1: first up, it's your turn. Your calls coming up at
Speaker 1: triple eight rich one oh one. I'm rich Demiro, and
Speaker 1: you are listening to rich on Tech again, phone number
Speaker 1: triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. I know I
Speaker 1: gave you a lot of apps before, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good ones in there. I'm doing my best
Speaker 1: to put all the notes on the website. Rich On
Speaker 1: tech dot TV. Look for the show notes for the
Speaker 1: radio show for show number twenty one, and you should
Speaker 1: find most of the links. I'm almost done. Let's go
Speaker 1: to uh Elam Elam in La Ellam. You're on with Rich.
Speaker 5: Hi Rich, this is Elam.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I have a quick question. My stepmother is selling her
Speaker 7: house and selling the content of the house, and with it,
Speaker 7: she sold her computer. She just called me and said, oh,
Speaker 7: someone's trying to change the phone number on my hers
Speaker 7: her Apple account. So I'm like, oh, shoot, so I'm
Speaker 7: going to go over there in about two hours to
Speaker 7: go deny that request because obviously someone's trying to maybe
Speaker 7: change her user name.
Speaker 8: Access her account.
Speaker 7: It's that I don't even know. She's logged out of
Speaker 7: her Okay on their computer.
Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, So this is a good lesson for
Speaker 1: any time you sell something, obviously you want to sign
Speaker 1: out on that device. On Android, iPhone, Windows, Mac, it
Speaker 1: makes it very easy. You can go into the settings
Speaker 1: and basically do a factory reset and get everything back
Speaker 1: to the standard operating you know, the factory conditions now
Speaker 1: on the iPhone, on your on your does your mom
Speaker 1: have an iPhone? No she doesn't, So what does she
Speaker 1: use for her phone?
Speaker 7: I think it was the other one Android, Yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think what you're going to have to
Speaker 1: do is go into the settings on iCloud dot com.
Speaker 2: Does she have any other Apple device?
Speaker 8: I know she has a tab that she uses.
Speaker 7: I don't know what.
Speaker 9: I don't know that she has an Apple account.
Speaker 7: I don't know what it is that's telling her that.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go there later and look at that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I would go into her Apple her iPhone
Speaker 1: and go into the iCloud settings and then and then
Speaker 1: you can basically go into the device's tab on the
Speaker 1: Apple ID and then see the device that you want
Speaker 1: to sign out of and say sign up out, And
Speaker 1: that way that computer would no longer be on the
Speaker 1: you know, it won't be on the account anymore.
Speaker 7: So concerned about their bank account, I'm hoping that account
Speaker 7: was not left open on the No.
Speaker 1: Those those usually time out after a minute or two
Speaker 1: or a couple of minutes, So you're gonna be fine there.
Speaker 1: So I think that, I mean, this could be a
Speaker 1: targeted thing where someone is literally trying to access your
Speaker 1: mom's stuff, or it could just be an innocent thing
Speaker 1: where they're just trying to reset up this computer and
Speaker 1: they came across this thing and they typed in the
Speaker 1: password and they were just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you do that if it was innocent.
Speaker 1: But but again, go to you know, go to the
Speaker 1: Apple you know, iCloud website, sign in, look for the
Speaker 1: devices tab, and then find the device that your mom
Speaker 1: was on and click sign out on there. So I
Speaker 1: would do this right now live. But the problem is
Speaker 1: it's like a whole two factor authentication thing to sign
Speaker 1: into my computer, so it's not going to let me
Speaker 1: do it easily. But that's what i'd recommend and in
Speaker 1: the future, or no matter what, before you sell something,
Speaker 1: this is just a really good reminder that you have
Speaker 1: to just sign out of everything on there. So no
Speaker 1: matter what sign out of Google, you know, but on
Speaker 1: the big picture, you want to sign out on the
Speaker 1: whole computer.
Speaker 2: So there's ways of you know, what I would do
Speaker 2: is look at the item.
Speaker 1: So whether it's a chromebook, whether it's a Mac computer,
Speaker 1: whether it's a tablet, just look at factory reset and
Speaker 1: then that just Google that and it should give you
Speaker 1: the step by step instructions on how to do that
Speaker 1: everything's a little bit different. But I do this all
Speaker 1: the time because I'm always testing gadgets and then sending
Speaker 1: them back to the company, and I always have to
Speaker 1: do a factory reset. But there's other ways of especially
Speaker 1: with Google and Apple, of signing out of the devices,
Speaker 1: even if you're basically revoking access to that device from
Speaker 1: the web, saying like I don't have this anymore, but
Speaker 1: don't let this thing log in anymore.
Speaker 7: Right, okay, all right, sounds good. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All right, elim, thank you for calling today, and hopefully
Speaker 1: it gets all sorted out. And if not, just you know,
Speaker 1: give me an email and and we'll figure out another
Speaker 1: solution here.
Speaker 9: Sounds good. You have a great day, all right.
Speaker 2: Have a great day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, you know one of these things where it's
Speaker 1: a good idea in general, and I always do this.
Speaker 2: There's also something.
Speaker 1: Called third party access to your account. So if you
Speaker 1: look at if you Google like third party access, Google
Speaker 1: you can manage the third party apps and services that
Speaker 1: have access to your account. And what that means is
Speaker 1: that sometimes when you sign in, it's easier to sign
Speaker 1: in with your Google account or your Facebook account, or
Speaker 1: your Twitter or your Apple account. And sometimes you want
Speaker 1: to revoke access. So if you look at what's called
Speaker 1: these sometimes are referred to as permissions or third party
Speaker 1: account access, it's a good idea to go through your
Speaker 1: accounts and see what's on there. And I did this
Speaker 1: with Google the other day, where I kind of went
Speaker 1: through and saw the old phones and things that were
Speaker 1: on my account, and I just said, revoke access to
Speaker 1: those things, because you don't want a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: having access to your accounts. All right, Coming up, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk to Daniel Robino. This week was a
Speaker 1: Microsoft bill. This is their Developer's conference. They had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of new announcements when it comes to AI,
Speaker 1: which of course everyone is talking about nowadays, when it
Speaker 1: comes to BING, when it comes to this thing called
Speaker 1: co pilot for businesses. So we're going to talk to
Speaker 1: Daniel Robino. He is the editor in chief of Windows Central.
Speaker 1: He's going to talk about all of that stuff. Later on,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Jim Steyer. He's the founder
Speaker 1: and CEO of Common Sense Media. He's going to join
Speaker 1: me to discuss the Surgeon General's warning about the impact
Speaker 1: on social media and teens, which I know is a
Speaker 1: Big One and then later John Faulkner. He is the
Speaker 1: road test editor at clean Fleet Report. He's going to
Speaker 1: join me to talk about the vin Fast EV and
Speaker 1: we'll get his take on the Ford Tesla deal.
Speaker 2: Also, your call is.
Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two four to one zero one. I'm Rich Demiro.
Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech. Joining me now
Speaker 1: is Daniel Rubino.
Speaker 2: He is the.
Speaker 1: Editor in chief of Windows Central. All right, so let's
Speaker 1: talk about Built. What is Microsoft Built? What is that
Speaker 1: so much shop?
Speaker 10: Build is their annual developer conference, and it's been going
Speaker 10: out for many years.
Speaker 5: It's sort of changed focus.
Speaker 10: For many years, there was a lot of consumer stuff
Speaker 10: there as well, so it was almost like an Apple show,
Speaker 10: and then in the last couple of years it pretty
Speaker 10: much went all developer, and they did even they stop
Speaker 10: in biding press to even attend because it was such
Speaker 10: like more high level programming. But this year it's actually
Speaker 10: returned and they brought Windows eleven back to the show,
Speaker 10: and there was a lot more i would say consumer
Speaker 10: focused announcements for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 2: So let's kind of go through some of those.
Speaker 1: So obviously Microsoft was first out of the gate with
Speaker 1: this whole bang integration with chat GPT right, and I
Speaker 1: used it. I was one of the people who got
Speaker 1: the early access. I downloaded Edge, I was using it,
Speaker 1: and I really liked it. Now, of course I have
Speaker 1: some other options. But what's the What were the announcements
Speaker 1: with the chat GPT on on the BING front.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 10: Actually really really good news at least for Microsoft and
Speaker 10: open Ai. So their relationship has just basically got closer.
Speaker 10: What I mean is chat GPT was trained on Microsoft
Speaker 10: some of Microsoft's supercomputers, but it had a limited access
Speaker 10: basically the access cut off I believe it was late
Speaker 10: twenty twenty one meeting. It didn't have information beyond that date,
Speaker 10: and so you could ask it to do things, but
Speaker 10: he'd be asked about, say last night's baseball game, it
Speaker 10: could not get that information.
Speaker 5: I had no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 10: BING, on the other hand, took that and merged it
Speaker 10: with a search engine, so you could ask being chat
Speaker 10: something it happened five minutes ago and be able to
Speaker 10: find the information. What's happening now is open ai is
Speaker 10: basically getting that feature from being a plug in, so
Speaker 10: it's going to have now access to the Internet, meaning
Speaker 10: they're gonna be very similar in how they operate.
Speaker 5: I'd also say the other thing was plugins now.
Speaker 10: Open Ai announced plugins for chat Shipt about six weeks ago,
Speaker 10: and then Microsoft announced plug in support for being chat
Speaker 10: a few weeks ago as well.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 10: Turned out those plugins are interoperable, which is gonna be
Speaker 10: really good for developers, because we were concerned that people
Speaker 10: are gonna have developers We're gonna have to choose, all right,
Speaker 10: I got to make a plug in. Do I choose
Speaker 10: open Ai and chat Gipt, which technically probably has more
Speaker 10: users right now?
Speaker 5: Or do I do Bing?
Speaker 2: You know chat You're saying chat Gpt has more users
Speaker 2: than Bing.
Speaker 10: It might, I mean, because of the because of the
Speaker 10: headlines that chat Schipt has. But we don't really know
Speaker 10: the user numbers for all of them, right But I
Speaker 10: think being chat Schipt had a million users like within
Speaker 10: a couple.
Speaker 2: Of weeks, super much. I mean they really.
Speaker 10: And then Microsoft yeah, and Mitchoff hit a million two recently,
Speaker 10: so they're probably pretty close. But what's cool is these
Speaker 10: plugins developers write once they go anywhere to both systems.
Speaker 10: That's good news because it means, you know, people aren't
Speaker 10: going to forget about Microsoft's chatbot.
Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, so we've got the chatbot, we've got the plugins.
Speaker 2: What about this copilot?
Speaker 1: This got a lot of attention in the press, this
Speaker 1: whole idea of Copilot, and it's can you explain what
Speaker 1: copilot is because we're going to hear this a lot.
Speaker 10: It sounds like, yeah, so Copilot is basically a digital assistance.
Speaker 10: It's being put into their Microsoft Office software like Word
Speaker 10: and power Point, but it's also now been announced it's
Speaker 10: coming to Windows. We shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Speaker 10: It may be a surprise how early it's kind of
Speaker 10: coming that it really shows that Microsoft had a lot
Speaker 10: of this stuff planned out. It's similar to the way Quartana,
Speaker 10: Microsoft's previous digital assistant was sort of integrated into the
Speaker 10: operating system. So it's going to slide out from the
Speaker 10: right hand side. You'll have a chat panel there. You
Speaker 10: can basically access being chat right from that, but it
Speaker 10: could do much more. So what makes this Copilot is
Speaker 10: it's going to have features to say, control Windows, you
Speaker 10: can actually ask it to do things, that can analyze documents.
Speaker 10: It's going to be a lot more integrated into the
Speaker 10: operating system. And it's my belief that this is just
Speaker 10: the first step. You know, we're hearing rumors that Windows
Speaker 10: twelve was coming in late twenty twenty four, and all
Speaker 10: the evidence we have so far from our reporting comes
Speaker 10: back about and is that that operating system is going
Speaker 10: to really take AI to the next level in terms
Speaker 10: of integrating into the operating system to make it even
Speaker 10: more helpful and proactive for users.
Speaker 1: And what's really neat about that is the fact that
Speaker 1: these you know, Windows, there's a lot of features built
Speaker 1: in and I would say people probably use you know,
Speaker 1: five ten percent of them at the most.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 1: So if you can ask for something you want to do, Hey,
Speaker 1: show me all the documents that are larger than one
Speaker 1: hundred megabytes that haven't looked at in a year, you know, yep,
Speaker 1: easily clean out your hard drive like little things like that.
Speaker 1: That just it's just like this whole idea of natural
Speaker 1: language is finally coming to fruition in a big way,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing for the for
Speaker 1: the average user too.
Speaker 10: Yeah, digital systems up until now have been pretty disappointing.
Speaker 10: They were cool at first, but they just did not
Speaker 10: evolve as quickly as we were all hoping to. So
Speaker 10: they had to memorize a lot of commands, which is
Speaker 10: a fantathetical to like user adoptions, right, because who's going
Speaker 10: to go memorize certain commands to do certain tasks? You
Speaker 10: have to have for knowledge that even exists, and that's
Speaker 10: gonna be a difficult thing. That's you know, thankfully, it's
Speaker 10: gonna be overcome now.
Speaker 1: And I think it's also like not just the commands,
Speaker 1: but it was only programmed to do certain things. And
Speaker 1: so this I feel like this whole new generation of
Speaker 1: like this you know, all this AI is that you
Speaker 1: like don't really know what it can do, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because you just ask and see what it
Speaker 1: does and what it's capable of, and then you kind
Speaker 1: of like adapt from there.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And there's only a whole subgenre of people that are
Speaker 10: that's coming out of people who are basically masters at
Speaker 10: commands for these chat systems, because you can really you're right,
Speaker 10: I mean, people like started companies using these chat things
Speaker 10: basically asking hey, create me a company, design a website
Speaker 10: for me, blah blah blah, and they put in all
Speaker 10: the specifications that they want, and this thing goes and
Speaker 10: does it, and it's been pretty crazy, and most of
Speaker 10: us are just like asking to do like summarize this document,
Speaker 10: rewrite this sentence.
Speaker 5: There are people take it to the next level.
Speaker 10: Those people are going to be on the cutting edge
Speaker 10: of this technology in terms of I would say knowledge
Speaker 10: workers that are going to be hired and demand, because
Speaker 10: that type of specialty is really interesting that most of
Speaker 10: us currently just don't have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call it like prompting, right, like how do
Speaker 2: you prompt these things?
Speaker 5: Exactly?
Speaker 1: So that's wild. I mean it's I did it. There's
Speaker 1: this chatbot that I'm using for like travel, and it's
Speaker 1: like just so wild that you can give it such
Speaker 1: specifics and instead of saying, like, hey, what are the
Speaker 1: best things to do in Charleston? You know, like you
Speaker 1: can look up that on the web all day, but
Speaker 1: it's like, Hey, I have a nine year old a
Speaker 1: twelve year old, we like vegan food and we like
Speaker 1: outdoor activities. Tell me what to do in Charleston for
Speaker 1: the weekend. And it's like that level of search has
Speaker 1: just never been available before in an easy way exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be really fascinating. To see how
Speaker 5: this is, and it's I think people need.
Speaker 10: To understand that this technology is going to expand exponentially.
Speaker 10: It's not going to be like where we had SIRIE
Speaker 10: a couple of years ago and it got a little
Speaker 10: better here and there.
Speaker 5: This is going to rapidly evolve and there will.
Speaker 10: Be some scary moments right to be like, oh my god,
Speaker 10: I can't believe this is happening. But it's going to
Speaker 10: evolve very very quickly because the more people use it,
Speaker 10: the more data collects, the more the machine learning systems
Speaker 10: and large language models take effect, the more accurate these
Speaker 10: systems become.
Speaker 1: So you're covering this stuff very closely. Anything else that
Speaker 1: Microsoft announced that you think is really important to talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just in general.
Speaker 10: Windows eleven is a big focus for them again, right,
Speaker 10: so this is post pandemic new workforce out there. Computers
Speaker 10: again are super important conferencing video calls, so AI is
Speaker 10: going to be important for that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 10: They're building it already into the operating and where it
Speaker 10: can automack you blur your background, auto adjust, you cancel
Speaker 10: out noise. NPUs Neural processing units are gonna be really important.
Speaker 10: That's gonna be the next step Intel's or we got
Speaker 10: those coming out, you're gonna.
Speaker 5: Be built into these laptops.
Speaker 10: So a neural processing unit is a coprocessor whose specific
Speaker 10: task is just to handle AI. Currently, what happens is
Speaker 10: your CPU or GPU is doing that task. It's fine,
Speaker 10: but it's brute force. These systems really weren't meant for that,
Speaker 10: and it's going to drain your battery and all that,
Speaker 10: which on the laptop is very important. And NPU though,
Speaker 10: is specifically focused to do the kind of algorithmic processing
Speaker 10: without hitting your CPU and GPU and saving battery life.
Speaker 5: And processing cycles.
Speaker 10: So you guys start to see that integrated into laptops
Speaker 10: and desktop PCs, and it's going to allow things like
Speaker 10: human presence detection. The monitor I'm using right now is
Speaker 10: made by Delves, their new six K. It has a
Speaker 10: really nice four K HDR camera and it has sensors
Speaker 10: so that it's a text If I'm in front of it,
Speaker 10: it's almost like a sonar system. If I walk away
Speaker 10: from it, the monitor can then turn off, and when
Speaker 10: I walk back in front of it, it turns on.
Speaker 5: I don't have to touch anything. That kind of technology
Speaker 5: is going to.
Speaker 10: Be coming to all our computers within the next couple months,
Speaker 10: in the next year or so, and it's going to
Speaker 10: be basically making all our computers even smarter in ways
Speaker 10: we hadn't really thought about before.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is incredible. All right, Daniel, we're going to
Speaker 1: leave it there, Editor in chief of Windows Central. How
Speaker 1: can folks get in touch with you online?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 10: I'm on Twitter, Daniel, Underscore, Rabino, r Ubi, and oh
Speaker 10: I'm also on Macedon and blue Sky, so you can
Speaker 10: follow me if you go to my Twitter profile. They're
Speaker 10: listed there, so you can jump on those and choose
Speaker 10: your preference. Otherwise, we do our own podcast on Friday's
Speaker 10: at one thirty pm Eastern Time, where we recap all
Speaker 10: the news for gaming, Microsoft, Windows and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Perfect tune in, all right, Daniel, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining me today. Coming up, we're going to talk more
Speaker 1: about let's see, let's do Amazon. They've got a tablet
Speaker 1: that's actually their best yet and it's one you might
Speaker 1: want to take a look at. Plus your calls at
Speaker 1: triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two for one zero one. If you have
Speaker 1: a question about technology, give me a call. You're listening
Speaker 1: to Rich on tech rich on tech rich Demiro hanging
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at triple eight Rich one
Speaker 1: O one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two
Speaker 1: four one zero one. Heidi writes in Hey, Rich, I
Speaker 1: have some great pieces of clothing, several with tags never
Speaker 1: warn that I'm considering selling online. I've researched to different websites,
Speaker 1: watched YouTube videos and tutorials, but I'm still not sure
Speaker 1: what the best platform is for me. I would like
Speaker 1: to be able to make some fun money and have
Speaker 1: the time to do it. Any suggestions, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for your help, Heidi. Well, Heidi, I think that
Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways you can do this. Obviously,
Speaker 1: eBay is the kind of the old school method at
Speaker 1: this point, but there's so many other ways of selling
Speaker 1: things online, especially clothes. I mean, just the offer up
Speaker 1: is the one that comes. I think we did a
Speaker 1: story a couple of years ago and offer up was
Speaker 1: really the one that kind of was picked as the best.
Speaker 1: But for clothes specifically, there's just so many and I
Speaker 1: don't really have a lot of experience selling clothes online,
Speaker 1: but I mean Facebook, Marketplace is obviously another one. Thread
Speaker 1: Up is one Mrcari. That's another one that people like,
Speaker 1: and then isn't Poshmark. I'm not really sure what that
Speaker 1: one's all about, but I know Poshmark a lot of
Speaker 1: people like.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I mean, I think no.
Speaker 1: Matter which one of these you choose, it really comes
Speaker 1: down to, don't get scammed because there are just so
Speaker 1: many people ready to prey on you when it comes
Speaker 1: to these online marketplaces. And that's really what I think
Speaker 1: the most important lesson is no matter which one of
Speaker 1: these you use, because I think what you do is
Speaker 1: what I would do, is just put the same item
Speaker 1: on a couple of them and see what my experience is,
Speaker 1: see which one feels the best, is the simplest, is
Speaker 1: the easiest, and then I'd go with that one. But
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these things, you know,
Speaker 1: you put something on there and immediately you get spammed
Speaker 1: with a lot of people trying to buy stuff, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them are just kind of like, not
Speaker 1: really someone you want to deal with. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. But I think that's the main lesson
Speaker 1: I sold. The last time I sold something, it was
Speaker 1: on offer up and it was a great experience. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you chat back and forth with the person.
Speaker 1: You know, it was cash deal. So they came to
Speaker 1: my house, they picked up the chair that I sold,
Speaker 1: and it was it was very easy. I think I
Speaker 1: sold like a chair that I bought for a couple
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for like twenty bucks. But it was interesting
Speaker 1: because the person wanted to complete their their chair. They
Speaker 1: had another one, the same exact one I had. They
Speaker 1: wanted to complete that and it wasn't being sold at
Speaker 1: the retailer anymore. So they, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: great deal for them and for me. It just got
Speaker 1: this big giant chair out of my garage, so it
Speaker 1: was perfect. That's what I would do is just be
Speaker 1: very aware of these transactions because but you know, people
Speaker 1: have a great time selling this stuff online and really
Speaker 1: enjoying it.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Amazon tablet that launched
Speaker 1: this week. It's called the fire Max eleven. This is
Speaker 1: Amazon's biggest and most powerful tablet yet, and this might
Speaker 1: give the iPad a run for its money if you're
Speaker 1: looking for a budget tablet. I still think that the
Speaker 1: iPad is the best tablet out there, but this is
Speaker 1: the fire Max eleven. Amazon says it's fifty percent more
Speaker 1: powerful than its next best tablet, which tells you something
Speaker 1: that means it's pretty good. It's got an eleven inch screen.
Speaker 1: The price is two hundred and twenty nine dollars, which
Speaker 1: is a great price. I know it's more expensive than
Speaker 1: most of their tablets, but this is a premium tablet.
Speaker 1: It's got a good display, it's got a fingerprint sensor
Speaker 1: for the first time. It's got super fast Wi Fi
Speaker 1: six connectivity, fourteen hours of battery life. It even has
Speaker 1: an available stylust and a keyboard, which they've had them
Speaker 1: in the past, not the stylist, but they've had the
Speaker 1: keyboard in the past for the Amazon tablets, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's been kind of like eh, but you know,
Speaker 1: this even has a three month trial of Microsoft three
Speaker 1: sixty five for access to all those apps. So they're
Speaker 1: really positioning this as something that, you know, could be productive.
Speaker 1: I think that this would be a good tablet if
Speaker 1: you don't want an iPad and you don't want one
Speaker 1: of the really cheap fire tablets, you want something that's
Speaker 1: a little bit more premium. I have not tested this yet.
Speaker 1: I have not gotten a test review of this thing,
Speaker 1: so it comes out in June again. It's called the
Speaker 1: fire Max eleven. My advice with any Amazon device is
Speaker 1: to wait for it to go on sale because Amazon
Speaker 1: always puts their stuff on sale, especially around Prime Day
Speaker 1: or throughout the year. So just put this in your
Speaker 1: shopping cart and just keep an eye. Use something like
Speaker 1: honey to keep an eye on the price because it
Speaker 1: will drop again. Firemax eleven two hundred and thirty dollars
Speaker 1: coming out in June. If you want to get the
Speaker 1: bundle with the case and the keyboard and the stylus
Speaker 1: is three hundred and thirty dollars, so not too bad.
Speaker 2: All right. That's the Amazon Fire Max eleven coming soon.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up to the show, we still got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, including your calls at Triple
Speaker 1: eight rich one on one.
Speaker 2: That's eight eight eight seven.
Speaker 1: Four to two, four to one zero one. We'll alts
Speaker 1: talk about the newest streamer in town called Max. You're
Speaker 1: listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at
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Speaker 1: to Neon. Neon is in Norwalk, California.
Speaker 2: Neon. You're on with Rich.
Speaker 11: Hi had to is it Parker your son? You had
Speaker 11: to him?
Speaker 2: Parker's right here, Say hello Parker.
Speaker 3: Hello, Parker is fine?
Speaker 11: Thank you? Oh my god, that's so great. So anyway,
Speaker 11: let's go. I know you have to much time, So
Speaker 11: I want to buy Amazon echoes so I can talk
Speaker 11: to it and you know, and and ask him to
Speaker 11: give me information. Uh, would you answer all the all
Speaker 11: the information that I that I asked for it as for.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, well, like you mean like smart question like
Speaker 1: just questions.
Speaker 11: Let's let's say who was Napoleon? Let's say whatever, who
Speaker 11: was this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll get the basics right on that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I think that if you want the
Speaker 1: best answers, I really think that and Parker can answer this.
Speaker 1: You what do you think would be better for answers
Speaker 1: like A I like, well AI?
Speaker 4: Well, I would say, yeah, the probably I would say, like,
Speaker 4: if you're using.
Speaker 3: AI, probably barred, right, But he wants to do voice assistant, oh,
Speaker 3: voice distant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then I would probably say Google, uh, the Google
Speaker 4: Home because like, yeah, I mean it's really it's like
Speaker 4: it's It's really good.
Speaker 3: It's like top notch.
Speaker 4: Uh. Next one would be Alexa. Alexa is still pretty good.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, and then we have Theory, which I think
Speaker 4: Theory is probably third, and then alexas second, and Google
Speaker 4: Home is first.
Speaker 3: I would recommend Google Home.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're so smart.
Speaker 11: Okay, So so what if I say, Alexa to YouTube,
Speaker 11: I want to listen to YouTube?
Speaker 1: Well, I see again, you're you're kind of calling out
Speaker 1: some Google products here, and I think that Google would
Speaker 1: probably be a better, better solution there because Google has
Speaker 1: that direct connection to YouTube. Now, I think the Echo show,
Speaker 1: you know, it can do some of these things, but
Speaker 1: again it's a little bit more limited in the scope
Speaker 1: of what it can do. It can work with a
Speaker 1: lot of third party items and you know, smart home things,
Speaker 1: but YouTube specifically, are you trying to watch YouTube videos
Speaker 1: or are you trying to listen to YouTube music?
Speaker 11: Listen? Yeah, listen, listen to YouTube. Because it is a
Speaker 11: speaker doesn't have a screen, right.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends on the one you get. So when
Speaker 1: it comes to I mean both Amazon and Google, they
Speaker 1: both have both. So some of the Amazon devices, like
Speaker 1: the Echo they're called the Echo shows, those have a screen,
Speaker 1: and then the Echo does not have a screen, that's
Speaker 1: just a speaker. So if you're going Echo show screen,
Speaker 1: Echo no screen. And then if you want on Google side,
Speaker 1: there are Google Home speakers, and then there's the Google
Speaker 1: Nest hubs and those have displays.
Speaker 2: So either way you'll be able to do that.
Speaker 1: But if if you want the Echo show, it supports
Speaker 1: a lot of variety of services, I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that it supports. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: the website here to see. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of third party things that you
Speaker 1: can get.
Speaker 11: Another question, is Internet or count Internet is connected by
Speaker 11: itself to the Internet.
Speaker 1: No, you will need Internet, so you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: connect either one of these to Wi Fi. So, and
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at some of the supported services on
Speaker 1: the Echo Show. You've got Amazon Music, You've got Apple Music, Spotify,
Speaker 1: Prime Video, Netflix, Hulu, Food Network, Kitchen, Headspace, Audible, NPR,
Speaker 1: Amazon Photos, and a couple others. So, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of these things where Amazon's always adding new features.
Speaker 1: But it's just you know, you kind of have to
Speaker 1: decide if you want to if you want YouTube specifically,
Speaker 1: I think that the Google is going to be better
Speaker 1: for you because it's just it's just it's made by
Speaker 1: the same company and kind of just work together really well.
Speaker 11: Okay, say thank you to Parker and you Okay, thank
Speaker 11: you so much.
Speaker 2: All right, Neil, thanks for calling in today. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Phone number triple eight rich one on one eight eight
Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it's Memorial Day weekend, obviously a lot of people having
Speaker 1: folks over to the house, So what do we do
Speaker 1: clean up the backyard for the first time? And you know,
Speaker 1: all season, what is it? What is the deal with
Speaker 1: when people are coming over? It makes you clean the
Speaker 1: house right like you never like you always want to
Speaker 1: do this, but you don't do it until someone's coming
Speaker 1: to the house and you say, okay, we should probably
Speaker 1: clean up outside. But then by the time you get
Speaker 1: to that level of something, you're always so frustrated that
Speaker 1: it's gotten to that level that you're just like, why
Speaker 1: is our backyard so dirty? And why is the outside
Speaker 1: so messy? And why is the inside And then you
Speaker 1: get on this whole big you know, not ramp, but
Speaker 1: you're just like you're on this mission to like fix everything,
Speaker 1: and you're doing it on the day people are coming over.
Speaker 1: So that happened to us today before the show. We're
Speaker 1: sitting there going through everything. We're like rearranging stuff, cleaning stuff,
Speaker 1: wiping down stuff. I don't know why why do we
Speaker 1: decide to do it today of all days? We should
Speaker 1: if you do a little bit every weekend, it's like
Speaker 1: you'll keep things in order. But no, it's when I
Speaker 1: grew up, it was the same thing. My parents would
Speaker 1: do the same stuff. We'd have a party. Inevitably you'd
Speaker 1: be like touching up the paint on the side of
Speaker 1: the house, or you'd be like, you know, replanting the
Speaker 1: flowers or something. So I don't know why we decide
Speaker 1: to do all this stuff on the days where you
Speaker 1: need to have people over and you should be relaxing.
Speaker 1: But it's just the way we work. So maybe that's
Speaker 1: just everyone all right. You can follow me on social media.
Speaker 1: I am at rich on Tech, on Instagram, on Facebook,
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Typically I go through what I've posted on
Speaker 1: Instagram for the week at rich on Tech. This week
Speaker 1: was a big one. Anytime I go to like one
Speaker 1: of these big events, there's always like something really interesting
Speaker 1: at these events and visual So this week, let's see,
Speaker 1: I went to this place called Lake Hollywood where they
Speaker 1: have this great view of the Hollywood Sign in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I've lived in the area for many years, never been
Speaker 1: and it was incredible.
Speaker 2: So I just took my phone out.
Speaker 1: I made a little Instagram reel of that, and it's
Speaker 1: just if you have people coming to Los Angeles. If
Speaker 1: you ever visit Los Angeles, look up a place called
Speaker 1: Lake Hollywood Park. It is probably the best place in
Speaker 1: the world to take a picture of the Hollywood Sign.
Speaker 1: My picture is not very good, but the video I
Speaker 1: took gives you an idea of just how nice this is.
Speaker 1: Then I went to this thing called the Display Week,
Speaker 1: which is put on by the Society for Information Display.
Speaker 1: This is like a trade group, but this was probably
Speaker 1: one of the most visual shows I've ever been to
Speaker 1: outside of CS So I did a video of this
Speaker 1: sixty five inch eight K foldable o LED display. And
Speaker 1: it's not something that they're going to make today. You've
Speaker 1: seen foldable phones, imagine that, but giant sixty five inch screen.
Speaker 1: This thing is enormous. It folds up into a little box.
Speaker 1: Why would you need it? I have no idea. Now
Speaker 1: people are debating on my Instagram. Why do you need
Speaker 1: a TV that folds up into a little box?
Speaker 2: I don't know. But maybe you have an RV I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you have like a small space, maybe you have
Speaker 1: a little apartment that doesn't fit a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: So it just these companies like to flex a little
Speaker 1: bit and show off what is possible. And if they didn't,
Speaker 1: that'd be a bad thing, right because we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: the innovations that lead to things that are actually useful.
Speaker 1: But this TV sixty five inch o lad screen, it's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. It's from TCL and it's not a TV.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just a display, so that's on there
Speaker 1: as well. And then ugh, this is really cool. It's
Speaker 1: called a micro display. These are displays that are going
Speaker 1: to be powering our VR and AR headsets. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about this stuff right now
Speaker 1: because Apple is holding their next big event on June fifth,
Speaker 1: which I'll be at, and they are widely expected to
Speaker 1: show off a new augmented reality headset. And so the
Speaker 1: reality is this is something that people have been talking
Speaker 1: about with Apple for so long, so long, and it's
Speaker 1: finally coming to fruition supposedly, so these little displays, and
Speaker 1: all the people at the event were like, they didn't
Speaker 1: want to say it was because of Apple, but they're like,
Speaker 1: these are going to be very important, very soon. But
Speaker 1: I look through this little and I have this video
Speaker 1: on my Instagram at Richon Tech.
Speaker 2: You have to take a look.
Speaker 1: It looks like a peephole on a door, but you
Speaker 1: look through and there is a giant it almost looks
Speaker 1: like a giant screen inside. And what this is is
Speaker 1: it is a one point three inch four K micro
Speaker 1: o led display one point three inches but you look
Speaker 1: through this magnifying glass and it looks like an entire
Speaker 1: world inside.
Speaker 2: And just the way I shot it.
Speaker 1: It kind of like zooms in it and you like
Speaker 1: look almost like you're peering into it and you just
Speaker 1: see this whole thing.
Speaker 2: It's quite incredible. So that's on there as well.
Speaker 1: But those were two things that sort of went not viral,
Speaker 1: but you know, definitely a lot of interest. The other
Speaker 1: thing is this idea called a living vehicle. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like an RV, but it's a self sustainable, I
Speaker 1: don't know, a living vehicle, and it's got solar on
Speaker 1: the top. It's also pulls water in from thin air,
Speaker 1: and people are like, Rich, this is called an RV.
Speaker 1: We've had RVs forever. Well, RVs don't necessarily have solar
Speaker 1: and pull water from the air, so you can live anywhere.
Speaker 1: That was on my Facebook page and people are debating
Speaker 1: that as well. So lots of things always being posted.
Speaker 1: I love going to these events because I just get
Speaker 1: to see all this cool stuff, and of course I'm
Speaker 1: sharing it with you.
Speaker 2: That's you know.
Speaker 1: I do this stuff for TV, but I put on
Speaker 1: my Instagram as well, and it's just a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to do it all right. Coming up this week,
Speaker 1: the Surgeon General said that social media has a definite
Speaker 1: impact on teenagers. So we're going to talk Jim Steyer
Speaker 1: of Common Sense Media. He's gonna tell us some thoughts
Speaker 1: on that whole situation. We've got your calls at Triple
Speaker 1: eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four
Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one. You can also
Speaker 1: email hello at richon tech dot TV. My name is
Speaker 1: Rich Dimiro. You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. This is the show where
Speaker 1: I talk about the tech stuff. I think you should
Speaker 1: know about. It's also the place where I answer your
Speaker 1: questions about technology. The phone lines are open. Kim is
Speaker 1: standing by to take your call and get you on
Speaker 1: the show at Triple eight rich one oh one. That's
Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one
Speaker 1: zero one to a party in the studio here. I've
Speaker 1: got my son Parker, got Adam on the board, and
Speaker 1: we've got Paully Ann calling in from Arcadia.
Speaker 2: Paully Anne, welcome to the show.
Speaker 12: Oh, thank you. I'm in Temple City now. I was
Speaker 12: driving home from the market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've shifted locations.
Speaker 12: Yes, here's my problem I have. Maybe it's an iPhone
Speaker 12: ten or eleven. I charge it every night while I'm
Speaker 12: in bed, and this morning I woke up to take
Speaker 12: a look at my phone and it was dead.
Speaker 6: And I've been.
Speaker 12: Trying to revive it. And you're probably my last call
Speaker 12: before I call AT and T to figure out what next, because,
Speaker 12: thank goodness, I have a watch. Okay, I cannot say
Speaker 12: enough about the Apple Watch because at least I have
Speaker 12: this watch in which I'm speaking to you.
Speaker 1: Now you're calling me. Hold on, you're calling me from
Speaker 1: your watch. Yes, this is incredible. This is a first
Speaker 1: for the show.
Speaker 2: I think I can't.
Speaker 12: Say enough about the Apple Watch. It's not even a
Speaker 12: new fancy one, but it's great.
Speaker 2: I got to say.
Speaker 1: It sounds excellent. It sounds really really good. And in fact,
Speaker 1: when Apple launched the Apple Watch, they had a person
Speaker 1: in the middle of a lake on a on a
Speaker 1: one of those things called not a canoe, the paddle board.
Speaker 1: She was on a paddle board and she she called
Speaker 1: live on the stage when they were demoing this capability
Speaker 1: the call quality of the Apple Watch, and it was excellent,
Speaker 1: and so I'm very impressed.
Speaker 2: Anyway. Okay, so you have this phone. Do you know
Speaker 2: which model number it is?
Speaker 12: I think it's the ten or eleven. Okay, one of
Speaker 12: the first ones that have the there's no home button.
Speaker 8: You know, it's goods.
Speaker 12: Just swipe the screen. I'm wondering if it's just dark
Speaker 12: and I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're okay. So here's what I want
Speaker 2: you to do.
Speaker 1: So there is most people now you've probably tried holding
Speaker 1: down the home button and it doesn't do anything right correct,
Speaker 1: like the side button. Okay, So there is a little
Speaker 1: trick with the iPhone that is not widely known but
Speaker 1: it's a can we call it kind of a hard
Speaker 1: restart or a force restart, and this should just should
Speaker 1: kind of snap it into action. So let's try this together.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of like the old days of
Speaker 1: like abba, you gotta press. So here's here's the what
Speaker 1: you have to do. So you press and release the
Speaker 1: volume up. Don't do this just yet, so it's pressure
Speaker 1: release volume up, pressure release volume down, and then you
Speaker 1: press and hold the side button until the Apple logo appears.
Speaker 2: So, okay, have you tried this yet?
Speaker 12: I have, but I am willing to try it again.
Speaker 1: You got to limber up the fingers, so kind of
Speaker 1: do a little stretch with them, you know, get them going,
Speaker 1: and then up volume up, volume down, and then press
Speaker 1: and hold the side button until the Apple logo appears.
Speaker 12: Okay, I am pressing and holding this side button and
Speaker 12: I'm thinking happy.
Speaker 2: Thoughts and you gotta It might take a bit because it's.
Speaker 12: Like, you know, it's yes, I understand, you know, it.
Speaker 1: Tells it tells the phone like, hey, stop fooling around.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's you know, get down to business here,
Speaker 1: and let's let's actually force restart this thing now. Are
Speaker 1: you positive that it charged overnight?
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was plugged in. I've tested that cord with
Speaker 12: other devices. You know, it lights up other devices I've tried.
Speaker 12: I mean, I woke up at like seven o'clock, so
Speaker 12: I've been trying to pull it in and charge it
Speaker 12: for all this time.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now when you okay, now that same exact charger.
Speaker 1: Did you try and this is kind of like the
Speaker 1: troubleshooting steps. I would take it home. Did you try
Speaker 1: plugging that into like another device and watching it say charging?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And it does, so you confirm that. Now the other
Speaker 1: thing is that so this isn't working. It sounds like
Speaker 1: this would have come up by now, okay, like you
Speaker 1: you didn't see the Apple logo come up? Nope, okay,
Speaker 1: So if that didn't happen, it sounds like your phone
Speaker 1: is dead. So I would what I would do personally
Speaker 1: is I would look in the port, have you do
Speaker 1: you have a wireless charger available.
Speaker 12: To you now?
Speaker 1: Because what I would do is I would try putting
Speaker 1: it on a wireless charger and see if that brings
Speaker 1: it to life, and then that might mean that you
Speaker 1: have something stuck in the bottom of this phone. That's
Speaker 1: causing it to not charge. So when you plug it in,
Speaker 1: do you hear anything? No, no sound to let it
Speaker 1: wait wait.
Speaker 12: Wait it just I don't see that Apple logo, but
Speaker 12: I see it looks like a little screen that it
Speaker 12: looks like a computer.
Speaker 2: It looks like okay.
Speaker 12: Rectangle like, hey charge this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's a good sign. So it sounds like.
Speaker 12: It's okay restore Okay, this is this is hopeful.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have the magic.
Speaker 1: Well it sounds like it's coming back to life, slowly
Speaker 1: but surely. So I would just continue on whatever it's
Speaker 1: saying on the screen. Just see what it's kind of saying.
Speaker 1: If it's uh, you know, selling you to restart it,
Speaker 1: or is it saying restore.
Speaker 12: It's support dot Apple dot com or slash iPhone forward,
Speaker 12: slash store, and it's saying, hey.
Speaker 2: Plug it, plug it into plug it into a computer.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that into Yeah, so I would plug it
Speaker 1: into your computer and see hopefully have a backup that
Speaker 1: could be. But I would at this point, since you've
Speaker 1: gotten it to come alive, does it does it show
Speaker 1: the battery icon?
Speaker 12: No, it doesn't. It's just showing like it's showing like
Speaker 12: the little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's showing that it's saying like basically, plug me
Speaker 1: into a computer to kind of go to the next step.
Speaker 1: So I guess you can try that and see what happens.
Speaker 1: Or you can try restarting it again one more time
Speaker 1: with that force restart. Now that it's kind of come
Speaker 1: to life, you might try one more time to just
Speaker 1: restart it or maybe hold down the side button and
Speaker 1: see if that will do it. So, but that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the main thing to do. But
Speaker 1: I think it sounds like it's starting to come back
Speaker 1: to life.
Speaker 12: So that's the kin very I'm very hopeful, So thank
Speaker 12: you so much. I've been watching you ONLA five and
Speaker 12: without any other resources, I heard you on the radio.
Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, let's.
Speaker 1: Try this well, try it out and email me hello
Speaker 1: at rich on tech dot tv to let me know
Speaker 1: if your phone in fact comes back to life. The
Speaker 1: iPhone is this weird thing because there's not many buttons,
Speaker 1: there's not many instructions, so when it's something, it usually works.
Speaker 1: When it doesn't, it's kind of like, okay, now what
Speaker 1: do I do. But the good news is Apple has
Speaker 1: built some things into the iPhone that help you get
Speaker 1: it back to working, even if it seems like it's
Speaker 1: gone terribly wrong. But it sounds like her phone is
Speaker 1: kind of there's some life still breathing into it. So
Speaker 1: I think we're going to have a happy ending for
Speaker 1: that one, Paullyan, So thanks for thanks for calling in
Speaker 1: today at triple eight rich one on one. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to the founder and CEO of
Speaker 1: Common Sense. He is going to discuss the Surgeon General's
Speaker 1: warning about the impact of social media on teens. You're
Speaker 1: listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here talking technology with you at triple eight
Speaker 1: rich one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two,
Speaker 1: four to one zero one. This week, the Surgeon General
Speaker 1: issued a public warning about the risks of social media
Speaker 1: to young people, saying basically that we don't really know
Speaker 1: the impact of this stuff, so we've got to be
Speaker 1: on guard. And I think that's where I'll bring in
Speaker 1: Jim Steier. He is the founder and CEO of Common
Speaker 1: Sense Media. Jim, welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Good to be here.
Speaker 9: Rich.
Speaker 6: Hey, So about the Surgeon General.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about this.
Speaker 1: So first off, just kind of give me your What
Speaker 1: did the Surgeon General say, is it? I kind of
Speaker 1: summarized it very quickly, but he basically just said that, like, look,
Speaker 1: we don't really know what's going on here, so we
Speaker 1: need to be aware of this, and kind.
Speaker 6: Of no, I actually rich he went much further than
Speaker 6: First of all, the surgeon General, doctor Badak Murphy is
Speaker 6: one of the best leaders in the United States. He
Speaker 6: was Surgeon General under President Obama and then he was
Speaker 6: reappointed by President Biden. He's one of the great medical
Speaker 6: and public health expersts in the United States and the
Speaker 6: a parent, by the way, And he actually went a
Speaker 6: lot farther than you said. He said, we believe that
Speaker 6: social media is hazardous to the mental health of young people,
Speaker 6: period full stop. And he said there are a number
Speaker 6: of different elements of this, but the evidence is now
Speaker 6: quite clear that social media, used unwisely by tens of
Speaker 6: millions of kids in the United States has a very
Speaker 6: delagorious impact on their health and mental health, on issues
Speaker 6: like addiction and tension, distraction, on issues like body image
Speaker 6: and eating disorders, on issues regarding suicide and self harmed.
Speaker 6: So he actually went much farther. It's quite similar to
Speaker 6: what the Surgeon General of the United States did fifty
Speaker 6: years ago or so when they put the warning label
Speaker 6: on the package of cigarettes that said tobacco smoking is
Speaker 6: hazardous your health. So this is a landmark moment for
Speaker 6: the Surgeon General and he did it on his own.
Speaker 6: The White House newe was going to come out with it.
Speaker 6: But it's really a statement by doctor Murphy. And I
Speaker 6: think for everyone in your audience, every parent, every educator,
Speaker 6: and every young person, they should listen loud and clear
Speaker 6: to what doctor Murphy had to say.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really impactful.
Speaker 1: And I okay, so I guess breaking it down, what
Speaker 1: do you think we do from here? So now we're
Speaker 1: saying like, yeah, there's a problem, we know there's a problem.
Speaker 2: What is the solution? I mean what you know?
Speaker 1: Because tech companies, like any company, they don't want to
Speaker 1: be regulated. They don't want anyone to step in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: here's what you should do, so they come up with
Speaker 1: their own. You know, Instagram has a little warning that
Speaker 1: says you bring on for an hour and kids just
Speaker 1: click through it. It's really a wild West when it
Speaker 1: comes to these programs, isn't it.
Speaker 6: That's right? And they've clearly failed let's be just blunt
Speaker 6: about it. So Rich you did and introduce me as
Speaker 6: the head of Common Sense Media and the founder. But
Speaker 6: we are, you know, far and away the largest shall
Speaker 6: advoacy and kids media and tech group in the United
Speaker 6: States and globally. So what has to be done is
Speaker 6: multiple things. First and foremost, they absolutely need to be regulated,
Speaker 6: and they actually are in certain places. For example, in
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, we passed a major privacy law in California,
Speaker 6: which is essentially the law of the land in the
Speaker 6: United States now, which protects everyone's privacy, including adults, but
Speaker 6: it particularly protects the privacy of young people. That doesn't
Speaker 6: mean that social media platforms necessarily always follow every guideline
Speaker 6: in that law, but that was a big issue around privacy,
Speaker 6: and last year in California we passed a major piece
Speaker 6: of legislation called the Age Appropriate Design Code, which actually
Speaker 6: holds platforms like Instagram and snapchats and TikTok et cetera
Speaker 6: a liable for the design flaws that will addict young
Speaker 6: people to the platforms.
Speaker 2: Like gambling. Even for adults.
Speaker 1: When you log on to Instagram and see those little
Speaker 1: hearts that pop up in the comments, that's like gambling.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I got something.
Speaker 6: Very good acknology, very good announce because it's addictive and
Speaker 6: it leads to compulsive behavior, just like gambling does. And
Speaker 6: by the way, you're right, the efforts by the companies
Speaker 6: like Instagram are pathetic. They are not really serious. They're
Speaker 6: just sort of fig leaves in order to try to
Speaker 6: make like they're make it look like they're doing something.
Speaker 6: So there's number one. The solution is clear and bold regulation.
Speaker 6: And by the way, there's a major bill in California
Speaker 6: right now, SB two eighty seven that's authored by Senator
Speaker 6: Nancy Skinner and endorsed by the Attorney General Rob Bonta,
Speaker 6: which would hold social media platforms legally liable for harms
Speaker 6: they do to young people under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 6: So that's a very important bill. By the way, that's
Speaker 6: right in Sacramento. Now you might ask why I'm talking
Speaker 6: about Sacramento versus Washington, d C. Well, the reason is
Speaker 6: because the Congress has been missing in action since Mark
Speaker 6: Zuckerberg was in diapers. They literally have not passed any
Speaker 6: regulatory structure for social media or the tech industry writ
Speaker 6: large since the late nineties. So in the period of
Speaker 6: massive change where everyone now is affected by the Internet
Speaker 6: and social media and big tech platforms. Congress has been
Speaker 6: completely missing in action and has failed the American public pathetically,
Speaker 6: partly because the tech companies have lobbied so much against it.
Speaker 6: So California has essentially become the place in the United
Speaker 6: States that regulate tech companies, but Europe also does as well.
Speaker 6: So one issue is regulation, but the second thing is
Speaker 6: you really have to educate young people about all of this,
Speaker 6: and so we have a program in one hundred and
Speaker 6: ten thousand schools. Collegen's a big organization about digital literacy
Speaker 6: and citizenship, and some of that's about basic how to
Speaker 6: protect your identity, how to keep your privacy, how to
Speaker 6: not compare yourself to everybody on the internet on platforms
Speaker 6: like Instagram, But some of it's now increasingly about mental
Speaker 6: health issues. And that's why the Surgeon General released this
Speaker 6: warning this past week because he's really concerned that we,
Speaker 6: which we do, have a mental health crisis in this country,
Speaker 6: and it's clear that social media is one of the
Speaker 6: major contributing factors. So there's an education alternate solution to
Speaker 6: and then they're finally holding the tech industry accountable not
Speaker 6: just through legislation, but quite frankly through shaming them when
Speaker 6: they do stuff that tazards the help of young people.
Speaker 1: Now, some of these suggestions in the report where create boundaries,
Speaker 1: limit the use of phones, tablets, computers for at least
Speaker 1: one hour before bedtime, you know, keep meal times and
Speaker 1: in person gatherings, device free, engage in two way conversations,
Speaker 1: connect with people in person, make unplugged interactions a daily priority.
Speaker 1: And then some of the stuff you mentioned, be cautious
Speaker 1: about what you share. And then they get into don't
Speaker 1: keep harassment or abuse a secret when and that comes to,
Speaker 1: you know, cyber bullying and all those kind of things.
Speaker 1: But here's what I notice, as you know, a spectator
Speaker 1: in not only having kids but also sure, what I
Speaker 1: see is that this thing is a babysitter. It is simple,
Speaker 1: it's easy, it's it works everywhere. It allows parents to
Speaker 1: enjoy their dinner. And I don't think that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of impetus by parents or kids to think about
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. So how do we change that
Speaker 1: part of it?
Speaker 6: So that's a really good question, rich and honestly, again,
Speaker 6: running the biggest organization in the country on these issues.
Speaker 6: I would tell you that there's more awareness than you
Speaker 6: just suggested about this. But you're right, it's an updill battle.
Speaker 6: So if the onus were only on parents and young
Speaker 6: people themselves to follow all those suggestions that you just
Speaker 6: listed from the surgeon in general, right, that would probably
Speaker 6: not be sufficient alone. Although I would tell you, having
Speaker 6: run common Sense now for nearly twenty years, there's been
Speaker 6: a sea change in understanding of thing. But for example,
Speaker 6: I'm the father or four kids. Rich I don't know
Speaker 6: how many kids.
Speaker 2: You have, but I've got two. I've got one in
Speaker 2: studio with me today, my eleven year old.
Speaker 6: There you go, Well, you should ask your kid in
Speaker 6: the studio what rules they followed, But I will, but put.
Speaker 2: Me on the spot. Believe met it put them on
Speaker 2: the spot.
Speaker 6: But anyway, the doctor Bentsy is totally correctly. Look, you
Speaker 6: shouldn't go to bed with your phone. You should put
Speaker 6: it away or your tablet. And so that's a rule
Speaker 6: that parents can enforce, but they have to also be
Speaker 6: a role model. One thing that we say, we have
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty million users that common Sense media annually,
Speaker 6: so we tell parents all the time by the way
Speaker 6: I'm a parent myself, and no one's perfect is you know,
Speaker 6: you've got to practice what you preach. So if you
Speaker 6: want to have device free dinner, we ran a whole
Speaker 6: campaign a few years ago for two years where Will
Speaker 6: Ferrell was the star of some incredibly fun commercials. It
Speaker 6: was basically, put your phone away and pay attention to
Speaker 6: your family. And so a lot of the suggestions you're
Speaker 6: referring to are very practical and should be done, and
Speaker 6: it's not shouldn't be lost on you that common sense.
Speaker 6: As one hundred and fifty million regular users, that's an
Speaker 6: incredible number and it does mean that parents and young
Speaker 6: people are listening. But you're also right at that alone.
Speaker 6: First of all, that it's really hard because we live
Speaker 6: in this twenty four to seven addictive, compulsive digital world
Speaker 6: where your phone is always pinging you with alerts, et cetera.
Speaker 6: So you have to change habits, and habits change is hard.
Speaker 6: It's why you need regulation and legislation, and it's why
Speaker 6: you need holding the tech industry accountable and an ongoing
Speaker 6: public awareness effort, including conversations like when you and I
Speaker 6: are having this Saturday, which is this is a discussion
Speaker 6: that has to be happening every home, every school, and
Speaker 6: quite frankly, we need legislative solutions as well. It is
Speaker 6: a full court press in order to deal with some
Speaker 6: of the downsides of tech, because we all know that
Speaker 6: there are also benefits from technology and from social media
Speaker 6: and common senses is the name says that all. We're
Speaker 6: very fair in the way we look at this, but
Speaker 6: these issues are only going to get bigger by the
Speaker 6: way now with AI. So if you look at the
Speaker 6: advent of chat, GPT and bard and some of the
Speaker 6: other platforms that are now beginning to emerge, it's going
Speaker 6: to increase some of the impact of social media platforms.
Speaker 6: AI will and.
Speaker 2: Well, think about it.
Speaker 1: When your AI knows you so well and it feels
Speaker 1: like it's a friend that you can ask almost anything to,
Speaker 1: you're going to spend even more time with it, and
Speaker 1: you're going to want to spend more time. And by
Speaker 1: the way, this can all be more personalized for who
Speaker 1: you are and what you're into. I mean, we think
Speaker 1: TikTok serves up videos that we like. Imagine in this AI,
Speaker 1: you know hones in that's.
Speaker 6: Right, and you know rich what it will do, particularly
Speaker 6: with vulnerable kids. Look, forty percent of teenager who in
Speaker 6: the United States report that they feel depressed have felt
Speaker 6: depressed montret That's just a phenomenal number. Forty percent. I
Speaker 6: hope that's not true for your kids or my kids
Speaker 6: or folks in the audience, but that means nearly half
Speaker 6: of all children experience some form of depression. And that's
Speaker 6: that's not even including some of the more serious cases
Speaker 6: of self harmed, suicidal ideation, et cetera. So, look, this
Speaker 6: is a public health crisis, a mental health crisis, and
Speaker 6: so we have to take it very seriously, and we
Speaker 6: have to have an ongoing conversation. And by the way,
Speaker 6: you've got two kids, rich, you do have to have
Speaker 6: we do, We all do have to have these conversations
Speaker 6: with our kids and be honest and open and listen
Speaker 6: to what they're experiencing. Also, know that they love platforms
Speaker 6: like YouTube and TikTok and snapchats and scroll through Instagram
Speaker 6: endlessly looking at photos of other people thinking that they
Speaker 6: don't look as good or you know, they're not as
Speaker 6: pretty or as smart, et cetera. So this is a
Speaker 6: really complicated issue, but it's very important that the Surgeon
Speaker 6: General came out with this warning, and it's very important
Speaker 6: that each and every one of us uses common sense
Speaker 6: takes advantage of some of the practical recommendations, but ultimately
Speaker 6: we've got a whole the tech industry accountable, period.
Speaker 1: All right, Jim, we're going to leave it there, Jim
Speaker 1: Styre of common Sense Media. Commonsense dot org is the website.
Speaker 1: And we didn't even get into the fact that we're
Speaker 1: talking about teens here, but a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: affects adults as well in a big way. So maybe
Speaker 1: we'll have to have you back on and talk about
Speaker 1: that hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, next check me about adults. Rich, that'd be great,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. All right, Jim, appreciate it. Jim Syre
Speaker 2: of Commonsense dot org. Look it up.
Speaker 1: It's a great resource, and we really really need to
Speaker 1: think about this stuff because it is having an impact
Speaker 1: on our families, our kids, and like I said, even
Speaker 1: adult It is a real thing. So just think think
Speaker 1: about even this weekend when you're hanging out with friends
Speaker 1: and family.
Speaker 2: Just put the phone away.
Speaker 1: For a little bit, all right, Rich DeMuro here Rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. More of your calls at triple eight Rich
Speaker 1: one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to
Speaker 1: two four.
Speaker 2: One zero one.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking
Speaker 1: technology with you.
Speaker 2: What a great guest.
Speaker 1: We just had on to talk about the impact of
Speaker 1: social media on teens, and I mentioned it's not just teens.
Speaker 2: I mean it's adults too, Believe me.
Speaker 1: And look, I'm not sitting here saying that I'm better
Speaker 1: or you know, I.
Speaker 2: Know how to do all this stuff, because I don't.
Speaker 1: I think we are all in this together when it
Speaker 1: comes to the implications of this stuff. We just take
Speaker 1: for granted. We've got our phones. You download the main apps,
Speaker 1: which is you know, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and we're just
Speaker 1: humans these companies are they engineer these apps to make
Speaker 1: us want to use them. You would never make an
Speaker 1: app that people don't want to use. Why would you
Speaker 1: do that? You engineer it so that people use it.
Speaker 1: They call it engagement, they call it stickiness. They want
Speaker 1: you to open up that app as much as humanly possible,
Speaker 1: even though they sometimes say, you know, we're putting in
Speaker 1: this and that it's all kind of I mean, who
Speaker 1: really uses a lot of those.
Speaker 2: Features on their phone?
Speaker 1: Like I had the thing where it tells me on
Speaker 1: Instagram have you been on for an hour today, like
Speaker 1: time to you know, stop using this and you press
Speaker 1: okay and you forget about it and that's it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: TikTok has a thing where it tells teens that they,
Speaker 1: you know, have been on too long and you know,
Speaker 1: all you have to do is click okay and move
Speaker 1: on with your life. So it's one of these things
Speaker 1: where I don't have the answers. I don't think anyone does.
Speaker 1: And I understand that, you know, regulation and all this
Speaker 1: stuff is sometimes you know, it might just be what
Speaker 1: we need to get through.
Speaker 2: Some of this.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because certainly we are not equipped as
Speaker 1: humans to do it ourselves. We're up against lots of
Speaker 1: smart people that are programming these things to make us
Speaker 1: use them.
Speaker 2: And it's great.
Speaker 1: If you've ever been on vacation you're looking for a
Speaker 1: cool spot or a nice picture place or a good restaurant,
Speaker 1: all these things are incredibly useful. Or if you've connected
Speaker 1: with someone on Instagram that you used to go to
Speaker 1: school with, or you know, you get to watch their
Speaker 1: kids grow up, it's great. But there's also that that
Speaker 1: other side of it. Let's go to Jan Jan in Upland, California,
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich Jan.
Speaker 13: How you doing, Hey, Rich, I'm great. Is it okay
Speaker 13: to have.
Speaker 2: You on speaker as long as everything sounds okay? So far,
Speaker 2: so good?
Speaker 13: Yeah, great, that sounds wonderful. I like to have you
Speaker 13: on Speakret because my husband's here too, and he understands
Speaker 13: tech stuff just a bit better than I do. So
Speaker 13: I'm hoping that between us will get what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what's going on?
Speaker 13: Well, it's great to hear you on KFI and your
Speaker 13: well spoken son.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you. He's going to take over
Speaker 1: the show one day, hopefully.
Speaker 12: Now I'm just going to He's going to give you
Speaker 12: a run for your money.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm sure these kids are way ahead of where
Speaker 1: I was at their age. But all right, let's see
Speaker 1: what you got going on. What's happening?
Speaker 13: Yeah, you've got so. I just thought a Microsoft US
Speaker 13: prom To tablet. It's the first tablet I've had specifically
Speaker 13: for traveling, so I could download things onto it so
Speaker 13: that i'd have things to do on the plane when
Speaker 13: I didn't have Li Fi and such. So I'm having
Speaker 13: difficulty with it though, and it was pretty useless. On
Speaker 13: my last trip. I tried to download a few typical
Speaker 13: you know, brain games and things like that onto it
Speaker 13: before my travels, and everything loaded onto my cell phone instead,
Speaker 13: even though I was downloading it on my tablet.
Speaker 1: And the okay I know, okay, so you were downloading
Speaker 1: items from Google Play to your on your tablet basically, yes, exactly, Okay,
Speaker 1: Well here's what's happening. So that's okay. So what's happening
Speaker 1: is when you go to if let's say you want
Speaker 1: to download like, you know, candy Crush, right, and it
Speaker 1: brings you to the Google Play app. It says like
Speaker 1: apps on Google Play, so that when you press install,
Speaker 1: that is actually installing on your Do you have an
Speaker 1: Android phone? I'm guessing yes, okay, so that is actually
Speaker 1: installing on your Android phone. So that is the you know,
Speaker 1: Android lets you install remotely from a website. Now here's
Speaker 1: what I think you need to do on this device
Speaker 1: is that you need to go into the Windows Store
Speaker 1: to download what you want. So down at the bottom,
Speaker 1: type in store and that should bring you to the
Speaker 1: Windows you know, their version of the App Store, and
Speaker 1: that way you can go and find the apps you
Speaker 1: want there and that will install them on that tablet.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense. Can you find that?
Speaker 13: Yeah, we're up in port right now.
Speaker 1: And so if you if you type in store, that
Speaker 1: is you know, so basically you've got three things going
Speaker 1: on here. You've got Windows, You've got Android, and you've
Speaker 1: got iOS. All of them have their own stores for apps.
Speaker 1: And they call them stores because some apps, you know,
Speaker 1: even though they're free, they sell stuff. You know, some
Speaker 1: apps might be paid, some might be free. But that
Speaker 1: is how you get apps to that device. Now, this
Speaker 1: is a surface device, so it's going to run both
Speaker 1: you know, Windows apps, and it's going to run stuff
Speaker 1: from the Microsoft Store. And so that's where you need
Speaker 1: to be downloading these apps. And did you find it? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: there you go. So that's where you want to download them,
Speaker 1: and that's how you're going to get those apps onto
Speaker 1: that device.
Speaker 2: I know it must have been. You must have been like, wait,
Speaker 2: what is happening here?
Speaker 1: I'm pressing installed and all of a sudden, this thing's
Speaker 1: shown up on my phone.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I wasn't sure what happened. I got Kindle, I
Speaker 13: bought a book and I can't find the book anywhere.
Speaker 1: Well you go, now you've got rich on tech. It
Speaker 1: sounds like you found it so Jan, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for calling in today. I appreciate it, and hopefully that
Speaker 1: tablet slash surface is much more useful on your next vacation.
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna wrap up our number two of
Speaker 1: the show. It goes by fast. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: More of your calls coming up. We've got triple eight.
Speaker 1: Rich one on one is the phone number eight eight
Speaker 1: eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.
Speaker 2: I've got my son Parker in the studio here.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about final Cut pro on the
Speaker 1: iPad and just a little bit and whatever else you have.
Speaker 2: On your mind.
Speaker 1: My name is rich Dmiro. You are listening to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro
Speaker 1: hanging out with you on this Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 2: Eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Rich one on one is the number eight eight eight
Speaker 1: seven four to two for to one zero one. I've
Speaker 1: got my son Parker hanging out here in studio.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 2: I guess it's take.
Speaker 1: Your kids to work day sometimes in the show, right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: We've got Adam on the board. We've got Kim picking
Speaker 1: up the phone lines which are just lighting up right now.
Speaker 1: This is usually the third hour of the show is
Speaker 1: when y'all calm down with the phone calls, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to, you know, get through all the
Speaker 1: things I want to tell you about. And now I've
Speaker 1: got We've got full phone line. So I guess let's
Speaker 1: take a call with Wendy in Arizona. Whndy you're on
Speaker 1: with rich.
Speaker 8: Hey, Brick, I'm glad you brought your son to work.
Speaker 8: It's important that the kids know what you do all day.
Speaker 8: I think they think we're just out having fun.
Speaker 2: They also think money grows on trees, right, this is true.
Speaker 8: I'm eighty two years old, very proud, great great grandmother
Speaker 8: and my grandchildren have kept me up to speed on
Speaker 8: Techi stock, but they re lee have moved further away
Speaker 8: with jobs and work different schedules. So I need to
Speaker 8: ask you a question about my iPhone. I'm absolutely hooked
Speaker 8: on KFI radio. Listened to it for years in California
Speaker 8: and was thrilled to find that through her heart radio
Speaker 8: I could get it here in Arizona. I love to
Speaker 8: hear that my phone overnight because I'm handicapped and I
Speaker 8: need it right next to my bed. Promised my daughter
Speaker 8: I would do that smart and I charge it also
Speaker 8: while it's beside my bed, and occasionally I cannot get
Speaker 8: iHeartRadio because of Internet problems on my echo, so I
Speaker 8: listened to it on my phone. Sure, is that hurting
Speaker 8: my phone that I'm charging it and listening to iHeartRadio
Speaker 8: all night?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think, you know, maybe in
Speaker 1: the past it might be putting a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Are you Is it all night long for like eight hours?
Speaker 8: And oh yeah, Usually I plug it in when I
Speaker 8: go to sleep, charge it and if I can't get
Speaker 8: iHeartRadio on the internet, and we often have Internet problems
Speaker 8: off and on.
Speaker 2: Why are you having internet problems? Oh, I'm curious.
Speaker 8: Well, because it's a rural area with less than perfect
Speaker 8: service and it's getting better, okay, but it's not there yet.
Speaker 2: How long have you had the iPhone?
Speaker 8: I've had the iPhone about three years. It's a se twenty.
Speaker 2: And you've been doing this for a while with the phone?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, okay, So I've been doing it whenever I
Speaker 8: either lose internet service or if I travel and don't
Speaker 8: have internet service. Here's we're in a motel somewhere.
Speaker 1: Here's what I want you to check. Are you on
Speaker 1: the phone right now, I am. Okay, So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to wait till we get off the phone. But
Speaker 1: if you go into these settings, okay, you go into
Speaker 1: settings and then you click battery and then it says
Speaker 1: battery health and charging, and it will tell you the
Speaker 1: maximum capacity of your battery. Now, mine is at ninety
Speaker 1: six percent. I've had this phone since the day it
Speaker 1: came out. This is only a year old, so it's
Speaker 1: gone down about four percent in the maximum capacity of
Speaker 1: the battery. You can check in there and see what
Speaker 1: your battery's at, and you can see if it's you know,
Speaker 1: if it's at a good percentage, you know, ninety percent.
Speaker 1: You know, that's telling you. When this battery came from
Speaker 1: the factory, it was at one hundred percent capacity. Like,
Speaker 1: this battery is perfect. And as you use it, the battery,
Speaker 1: of course wears down a little bit. And some things
Speaker 1: will cause it to wear down more than others, like
Speaker 1: maybe using it in really hot temperature, maybe using like
Speaker 1: not a very good charging cable or something. You know,
Speaker 1: it just depends. But I will tell you I am
Speaker 1: a power power power user. I run my phone into
Speaker 1: the ground. I charge it as much as humanly possible.
Speaker 1: I charge it every night. It is always going and
Speaker 1: I've gone down four percent in about, you know, almost
Speaker 1: a year. So it just goes to show that, yes,
Speaker 1: the things you do on your phone absolutely have an
Speaker 1: impact on the battery health. But I think the fact
Speaker 1: that you can look in there and see kind of
Speaker 1: like what's happening with your battery, that can give you
Speaker 1: a better idea. So what I would do for the
Speaker 1: next six months write down the number that you're at today,
Speaker 1: and then in six months, check the number that you
Speaker 1: have there in the maximum capacity, and if it's going
Speaker 1: down by a lot, lot lot like ten percent twenty percent,
Speaker 1: which I don't think it will be, then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you rethink what you're doing here, but I think
Speaker 1: that you're going to be just fine. I've used phones
Speaker 1: over the years, and realistically, you know, I think it
Speaker 1: more comes down to the way that you run the
Speaker 1: battery in the heat. That might have more of an
Speaker 1: impact on it than anything else. But I think that
Speaker 1: listening to the streaming what's happening is your phone is
Speaker 1: basically the battery is trickle charging while it's depleting a
Speaker 1: little bit, So it's just kind of always charging and
Speaker 1: battery tech has gotten a lot better where it's not
Speaker 1: like it used to be where it's super impacted by
Speaker 1: memory and all this stuff. So I think think you're
Speaker 1: doing okay, Wendy. Thanks for listening all day long. Appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and thanks for listening to me especially. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: that your kids know that you're keeping your phone bedside
Speaker 1: so that if you ever need them, you can get
Speaker 1: in touch with them easily. So thanks for calling today, Wendy.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. All right, Parker, you're here. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about Final Cut Pro on the iPad. So Final
Speaker 1: Cut Pro is a program that I use pretty much,
Speaker 1: I think, every day of my life now for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: I've used this since I started at CNET. I remember
Speaker 1: they said you got to learn how to use Final
Speaker 1: Cut and I said what They said, Yeah, you're going
Speaker 1: to be editing videos.
Speaker 2: I said, all right, So they taught me a little
Speaker 2: bit of how to use it.
Speaker 1: It was very basic, but I've learned over the years
Speaker 1: and this thing has become my everything. I use this
Speaker 1: program every day. It's why I typically use a Mac
Speaker 1: computer and it is my program of choice for editing
Speaker 1: on a physical computer. Now they just came out with
Speaker 1: Final Cut Pro for iPad. It is five dollars a
Speaker 1: month or fifty dollars for the year, which is a
Speaker 1: little bit controversial because not everyone likes to pay for
Speaker 1: something Like I paid for my Final Cut one time.
Speaker 1: It was three hundred dollars many many years ago and
Speaker 1: it still works now. Final Cut on the iPad is
Speaker 1: really cool for a couple of reasons. Number one, you
Speaker 1: can use a touch interface, so you can use just
Speaker 1: your fingers to do this, or you can use the
Speaker 1: Apple pencil, which which is really fun. It is, yeah,
Speaker 1: And the other cool thing is that you can write
Speaker 1: on the screen and make graphics.
Speaker 4: That is that's one of the best parts. I think,
Speaker 4: like it's basically.
Speaker 3: Kind of like animating.
Speaker 4: You can't really animate on there, but like if you're
Speaker 4: like I kind of want something to be like animating,
Speaker 4: then that's the way to go.
Speaker 1: And it's super easy because you're just writing. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you've been using this on the iPad pro. And the
Speaker 1: other caveat is that you have to have an iPad
Speaker 1: with an M one processor. This is the Apple's, you know,
Speaker 1: their own chip, and so they have the M one
Speaker 1: and the M two and there's some differences if you
Speaker 1: have them. There's some features you may not be able
Speaker 1: to use. If you have the M two, obviously you
Speaker 1: can use them all. So park what's your your impression
Speaker 1: of this? Because I think it's quite incredible.
Speaker 3: I think it's incredible too.
Speaker 4: I mean, like it's insane if you think about it,
Speaker 4: like an insane editing software on an iPad.
Speaker 3: That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: When I first saw my dad maybe editing on this,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, never, I mean maybe one
Speaker 4: day I'll learn this, Like it looks hard, maybe I
Speaker 4: take some classes or like literally I just spend hours
Speaker 4: in my dad working. But since it like I heard
Speaker 4: him talk about it actually on the radio about this
Speaker 4: that I tried it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I tried it.
Speaker 1: So what Parker will do is he will he will
Speaker 1: ask me when I come home from an event, He'll say, hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: can you air drop me the video files from that event?
Speaker 1: And I will air drop him and he will make
Speaker 1: his own little edit of that program. And you did
Speaker 1: this for the display thing that I went to, and
Speaker 1: I was very impressed with what you were able to do.
Speaker 2: See how easy was it to learn how to use this?
Speaker 3: I actually thought it wasn't super hard.
Speaker 4: Some of the things, though, I feel like are harder
Speaker 4: than others, which I think there's gonna have to be,
Speaker 4: Like maybe later on they'll be like videos of how
Speaker 4: to use it. Like right now it's not a lot
Speaker 4: because it's brand new, but I think it should be
Speaker 4: more noticeable for some things than others.
Speaker 2: Like some things you were able to pick up very easily.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like uh, one of them are just like drag
Speaker 4: and drop the uh the videos and uh stuff, and
Speaker 4: but some hard things were like split the clip.
Speaker 1: And all that stuff that I would say that's the
Speaker 1: trickiest because it's the trickiest. I would say splitting the
Speaker 1: clip is probably the most common way of editing on
Speaker 1: the desktop.
Speaker 2: You just you can use like the blade tool like
Speaker 2: b or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I did actually because uh, i've the
Speaker 4: Apple keyboard, and I actually learned that if you press
Speaker 4: command be at once it ain't like while holding the clip,
Speaker 4: it will actually split it.
Speaker 3: And then that's how you do it.
Speaker 4: But I actually want to know how to do it
Speaker 4: without the keyboard.
Speaker 1: Some people don't know it's in the lower right hand corner.
Speaker 1: I discovered it. So when you tap a clip. It's
Speaker 1: in the lower right hand, but.
Speaker 3: You needble yes, and.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to do that.
Speaker 1: So I think they're going to figure out how to
Speaker 1: make that more more visible because it's one of the
Speaker 1: things that I kept cutting the entire clip, and so
Speaker 1: I just get rid of it. It felt like the
Speaker 1: way to do it. But overall, I will say it's
Speaker 1: it's really good. It's for out of the gate. I
Speaker 1: think for someone who is coming up in the industry,
Speaker 1: like a you know, like my kid here that is
Speaker 1: just getting started with editing. It has become now where
Speaker 1: the iPad finally is nearly a replacement for a desktop
Speaker 1: computer that is more versatile because you have the beauty
Speaker 1: of an iPad and everything that you could do on
Speaker 1: a computer.
Speaker 4: Basically, I would say, if you want to get rid
Speaker 4: of your laptop and uh get rid like yeah, get
Speaker 4: rid of your laptop, then I would say you'd have
Speaker 4: to probably go with the Apple keyboard with it because
Speaker 4: it's like a lot easier. But I think the Apple
Speaker 4: pencil still has most of the features.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Apple pencil being able to pencil is.
Speaker 3: So I think it's worth it for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like you, so you'd say Apple pencil. So
Speaker 1: if you're doing final cut pro editing on the iPad,
Speaker 1: you've got to get the Apple pencil.
Speaker 4: And I agree, I don't think you you don't need to.
Speaker 3: It's not acquired.
Speaker 4: I would say it is worth it. It's worth the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tweeted this yesterday.
Speaker 1: I said I felt like Picasso when I was editing
Speaker 1: on this thing yesterday because it's the combination of just
Speaker 1: holding this flat device in your lap. You're editing, but
Speaker 1: you're using your hand on the screen to select stuff,
Speaker 1: and then I'm using the pencil on the other hand.
Speaker 1: It felt so easy and fluid and natural that I
Speaker 1: really think that Apple did a really incredible job of
Speaker 1: getting this into more hands. And I think more people
Speaker 1: are just going to start editing on the iPad and
Speaker 1: we're going to have the whole a whole new generation
Speaker 1: of Well, of course it's going to be like TikTokers
Speaker 1: and YouTubers, but maybe the next directors of like movies
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 4: It's also just simple and easy to learn, so if
Speaker 4: you want to learn it, I would go on ahead
Speaker 4: and try.
Speaker 1: So all right, Well, thank you Parker for giving your
Speaker 1: your and Parker and I usually do these little edit
Speaker 1: offs where he'll edit the same thing that I edit,
Speaker 1: and then we compare notes and we'll see who I.
Speaker 4: Time did that in a car, like a really long
Speaker 4: car drive.
Speaker 3: We did that for fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's fun. So I'd recommend if you can
Speaker 4: try it out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, final cut pro on the iPad. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining me today, Parker, appreciate it. We're gonna still stick
Speaker 1: around for the rest of the show. Coming up, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk I've got so many things talk about.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this Peloton price increase, but
Speaker 1: they put a good spin on it, so they're making
Speaker 1: you feel like you're getting more. I've got a website
Speaker 1: that you can check if you're getting scammed. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about Max, the new streaming service, and I've
Speaker 1: got a guest and plus your calls. It's all happening
Speaker 1: here rich On Tech, Triple eight, rich one on one.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology. Did you know that you
Speaker 1: can get this show as a podcast. Just go to
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Speaker 1: there's show notes to everything I mentioned. So if you
Speaker 1: want show notes, you can see what I talk about
Speaker 1: here and on that website you can also watch my
Speaker 1: TV segments. You know, I am the tech reporter for
Speaker 1: KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. I cover a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of topics every week and usually it's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. So go to Rich on tech dot tv
Speaker 1: and look for the as seen on TV. All Right,
Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to get through. So
Speaker 1: first off, let's see what do we want to start
Speaker 1: with here. Let's do Max because this is an easy one.
Speaker 1: So HBO Max became Max and it now is the
Speaker 1: home of all kinds of stuff. So they launched this
Speaker 1: week thirty five thousand hours of content, more than twice
Speaker 1: that of HBO Max for the same price. Okay, all
Speaker 1: these companies like to put a little spin on things.
Speaker 1: They say it's the same price, but if you want
Speaker 1: the same features, you have to pay a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a second. So what do you
Speaker 1: get with Max? You get HBO, you get Max Originals,
Speaker 1: which is all their new stuff. Then you get Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers Films, DC Universe, Harry Potter, HGTV, Food Network, Discovery Channel,
Speaker 1: TLC ID and more because Warner Brothers, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they merged or bought Discovery, whatever it is. It's
Speaker 1: very complicated, but it's all now like one company. So
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, Discovery, HBO Max all the same stuff.
Speaker 2: And the new app is called Max.
Speaker 1: If you have access to HBO Max, you have access
Speaker 1: to Max. So go on your device, whether it's Apple, TV, fireTV, Roku,
Speaker 1: iPhone and download the Max app. You can log in
Speaker 1: with your HBO Max credentials. I know this all sounds
Speaker 1: so wild, but this is what it is. There's also
Speaker 1: better kids stuff on here, so it has like a
Speaker 1: default kids profile, and there's more four K stuff so
Speaker 1: and this is where it gets a little t So
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more four K content and
Speaker 1: there's gonna be an average of forty new titles every month,
Speaker 1: which is wild.
Speaker 2: Now here's the pricing.
Speaker 1: Max with ADS is nine ninety nine a month or
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks a year, and that will give you
Speaker 1: no offline downloads, so if you travel, that's a no go.
Speaker 1: Mad Ax Max AD free is sixteen dollars a month
Speaker 1: or one hundred and fifty dollars a year. That will
Speaker 1: give you thirty offline downloads and HD quality now if
Speaker 1: you want. And this is where it gets where they said, oh,
Speaker 1: we're giving you, you know, the same for the same price.
Speaker 2: Not really.
Speaker 1: So MAX Ultimate AD Free is twenty dollars a month
Speaker 1: or two hundred dollars a year, and that will give
Speaker 1: you four K resolution, one hundred download downloads, offline downloads,
Speaker 1: and Dolby at moosts. So basically, if you are paying
Speaker 1: sixteen dollars a month before and you want four K
Speaker 1: in the future, you're gonna have to pay twenty dollars
Speaker 1: because existing HBO Max subscribers will have access to MAX
Speaker 1: at the same price, but only for about well same
Speaker 1: features for six months. So if you have four K
Speaker 1: right now, like I do on my plan, I'm only
Speaker 1: going to get to keep that for six more months,
Speaker 1: so well, I say, at least six months. So they
Speaker 1: haven't really said how they're going to change, But the
Speaker 1: bottom line is we know how these tech companies do it.
Speaker 1: They launch something and then when people forget about it,
Speaker 1: they slowly change things and of course make it a
Speaker 1: little bit more expensive. So that's that speaking a more
Speaker 1: expensive peloton. Peloton put a nice spin on their increase
Speaker 1: of prices. So they've relaunched their app with a free level. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's great, So you can take free classes on their app.
Speaker 1: It's limited, but it's free and that's nice, and that's
Speaker 1: the headline that they got a lot of people to
Speaker 1: talk about. And it's great, you know, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of free fitness options out there, and I think
Speaker 1: Peloton has always sort of been linked to the device
Speaker 1: or like myself, I use a third party bike, but
Speaker 1: I use the Peloton app. So for people like me,
Speaker 1: the price is actually doubling. So it used to be
Speaker 1: twelve ninety nine a month, now it's going to be
Speaker 1: twenty four dollars a month because the twelve ninety nine
Speaker 1: no longer includes unlimited hardware based classes.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: The cycling classes, the treadmill classes, the rowing classes, you
Speaker 1: only get three of those now used to be unlimited
Speaker 1: for twelve ninety nine. Now you only get three a month.
Speaker 1: And they know that that's their bread and butter, even
Speaker 1: though in this entire release they talk about how you know,
Speaker 1: these are the most popular things that people do.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So if you have the Peloton app, if you have
Speaker 1: a Peloton bike, nothing's really changing. Like, if you pay
Speaker 1: that forty five dollars a month or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you're fine. But if you're using the app just for
Speaker 1: the classes and you use like a treadmill or a
Speaker 1: different bike, you're gonna have to pay twenty four dollars
Speaker 1: a month if you want to continue with unlimited classes.
Speaker 1: This goes into effect on Tuesday, December fifth, so you
Speaker 1: have some time. But look, I get it. It's it's
Speaker 1: twenty four bucks a month for all these classes, and
Speaker 1: Peloton has very very good classes. But still you saw
Speaker 1: the spin and you know, they said, hey, we got
Speaker 1: a free tier, but they kind of left out the
Speaker 1: fact that their best customers like myself are now going
Speaker 1: to be paying double if they want to continue with
Speaker 1: what they have.
Speaker 2: So there you go all these companies.
Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of price increases we have seen
Speaker 1: on these streaming apps has just been incredible. I think
Speaker 1: that every single streaming app in the past year and
Speaker 1: a half has gotten a price increase or some sort
Speaker 1: of change where you have to make a decision do
Speaker 1: I want to continue with this price or do I
Speaker 1: want to get the feature as I was getting before
Speaker 1: and pay a little bit of a higher price.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we've got John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report.
Speaker 1: He's going to join me to talk about the vin
Speaker 1: Fast EV and we're going to get his take on
Speaker 1: the whole new Ford and Tesla deal. Rich tamiro here,
Speaker 1: Rich on Tech More show coming up next. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Rich on Tech Rich DeMuro here talking technology and
Speaker 1: evs are a big part of the tech world right now.
Speaker 1: And one of the companies that's looking to make a
Speaker 1: stake is called vin Fast. And also so we've got
Speaker 1: those cars now on the roads, and we've also got
Speaker 1: this deal this week with Ford and Tesla, two unlikely
Speaker 1: characters coming together. So starting early next year, Ford EV
Speaker 1: customers will have access to more than twelve thousand Tesla
Speaker 1: superchargers in the US and Canada.
Speaker 2: This is a huge, huge deal. So to talk about this.
Speaker 1: News and more, make sure I get the right button here,
Speaker 1: we've got John Faulkner from Clean Fleet Report. John, thanks
Speaker 1: for being on the show again. Welcome, Hello, Hello, Rich,
Speaker 1: with you you too. All right, let's start you want
Speaker 1: to where do you want to start? You want to
Speaker 1: start with your review of the vin Fast.
Speaker 9: Or what Yeah, let's get that one out of the
Speaker 9: way out of the way.
Speaker 1: Oh that doesn't that doesn't sound promising. So let me
Speaker 1: just set this up. So we were at the my
Speaker 1: son is here with us. Remember we my son was
Speaker 1: excited about the vin Fast. We saw it at the
Speaker 1: mall in Santa Monica, right huh.
Speaker 4: And I mean the design looked good, but I mean
Speaker 4: it's hard to get a car out there.
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard.
Speaker 1: So this is a Vietnamese company. Tell me about the
Speaker 1: vin Fast, John Okay.
Speaker 9: Vin Fast was formed only in twenty seventeen by its
Speaker 9: parent company, vin Group, which is Vietnam's largest company. Twenty nineteen,
Speaker 9: they started with gasoline powered cars in their own country.
Speaker 9: Twenty twenty one, they introduced an electric bus. In twenty
Speaker 9: twenty one, they had three electric vehicles that they introduced
Speaker 9: but didn't release. They just announced them then at CES
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty two. Vin Fast was there. In the
Speaker 9: fall of twenty twenty two, their first models were shipped
Speaker 9: to America and opened their retail stores and mall like
Speaker 9: you experienced. They have twenty eight United States and ten
Speaker 9: in Canada, and all the ones the United States are
Speaker 9: in tel Alifornia.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 9: Then, and then in twenty twenty two, they signed an
Speaker 9: agreement to open a manufacturing plant in North Carolina, with
Speaker 9: production to begin with the capacity of one hundred fifty thousand
Speaker 9: vehicles in twenty twenty five. And then they delivered their
Speaker 9: first cars for people to drive home in early this year.
Speaker 9: So what you can see is going from never having
Speaker 9: built an automobile of any type in twenty seventeen and
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three, this is this is unheard of.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, this company, this Vin Group, they weren't oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: focuses on real estate, retail and services and healthcare. Right,
Speaker 1: oh wow, So they really shifted. Okay, so they saw
Speaker 1: some opportunity. Here's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so let me go ahead and just tell
Speaker 9: the one what we did. In early May, then Fast
Speaker 9: tilled their first ever drive opportunity.
Speaker 11: For the MOTED media.
Speaker 9: After a product briefing by Kievan Fast staff, which included
Speaker 9: their CEO. We were turned loose and we drove to
Speaker 9: ignore the San Diego County. So the vehicles that we
Speaker 9: were driving were the were the then Fast VF eight
Speaker 9: City and this is their this is their lowest range
Speaker 9: mid size suv. And so I had a driving partner
Speaker 9: with me, and we took off and we we immediately
Speaker 9: noticed that there were things about the vehicle that were
Speaker 9: not up to par or equal with other evs that
Speaker 9: we have driven by other brands. And and so we
Speaker 9: got back after our drive, we sat down with the
Speaker 9: DEAT executives and we told them the things that we noticed.
Speaker 9: And I don't think anything we told them was surprising.
Speaker 9: They'd probably known this already. And and so the the
Speaker 9: the bottom line for this thing is that in my opinion,
Speaker 9: that they are rushing into the north North American market
Speaker 9: and if the v fate that we drove the media,
Speaker 9: just not myself or my partner, but all the journalists
Speaker 9: there that we drove is what they're selling to people.
Speaker 9: People are not going to be buying it. And the
Speaker 9: reason is pretty understandable. They're only launching this vehicle in California,
Speaker 9: and they say they want to be here because the
Speaker 9: charging system is the most robust in the whole country,
Speaker 9: and people understand electric vehicles well, they do, but that
Speaker 9: cuts both ways. Californians are EV savvy and they are
Speaker 9: going to do many, many hours of research online before
Speaker 9: and do wort of mouth before they will actually go
Speaker 9: out and buy an EV and once they test drive
Speaker 9: any of the more established evs that compete against the
Speaker 9: v fate, they will they will probably not be buying it,
Speaker 9: don't They're going to wait on that vehicle. And there
Speaker 9: are and there are some challenges them. It has a
Speaker 9: relatively low driving range two hundred and seven.
Speaker 2: Miles maximum oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the pricing is including the twelve hundred dollars
Speaker 9: delivery fee. The base one is fifty thy two hundred
Speaker 9: and the plus model of fifty seven to two hundred.
Speaker 9: The problem with that is that they don't qualify for
Speaker 9: any federal or California JAST rebates of credits. So therefore
Speaker 9: they are they're going against they're going against cars that
Speaker 9: are getting one hundred miles or more range they are
Speaker 9: getting they're getting vehicles that are well established. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: so they're offering the most robust warranty ten years, one
Speaker 9: hundred and ten thousand miles. The question, though, is, as
Speaker 9: a new company from a country that has no history
Speaker 9: of building automobiles, will they be around in ten years?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: So will they be there to support it?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Exactly.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like this is one of
Speaker 1: the let's wait and see. And here's what's happened in
Speaker 1: the EV world. And you know this is that it
Speaker 1: started out, you know, you had Tesla, they kind of
Speaker 1: set the standard, and then now we've seen in the
Speaker 1: past couple of years so many great options and they
Speaker 1: just continue to get better. So it is it continues
Speaker 1: to get more and more competitive and tougher to really,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, cut corners here and deliver a product
Speaker 1: that is like, Okay, it's got two hundred miles range,
Speaker 1: which is fine if you're just commuting, big deal, but
Speaker 1: you know, the price is a little bit high, the
Speaker 1: features might not be up to speed. So I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to vin Fast, from what I'm hearing
Speaker 1: from you is we kind of wait and see on
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I don't want people to not take a
Speaker 9: test drive in it. I want them to take a
Speaker 9: test drive. But these are going to be people that
Speaker 9: are probably already driven the leaders that compete against this.
Speaker 9: So the model why all three from the Hyundai group,
Speaker 9: the Ford, Moche, you just all these vehicles, is what's
Speaker 9: going to sell against this on the whole BMW, the
Speaker 9: Audis and they're gonna they're going to look at this
Speaker 9: and say, you know something, I don't know anything about
Speaker 9: this company. I don't you know, they have no warranty industry,
Speaker 9: they have no reliability history. Maybe I'll wait until the
Speaker 9: next version comes. Yeah, but yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got we got that the way.
Speaker 1: We only have a couple minutes here, So I want
Speaker 1: to I want to get into this news with Ford
Speaker 1: and Tesla, because this is pretty wild. Ford said they
Speaker 1: reached a deal with Tesla to basically allow their customers
Speaker 1: to access the superchargers starting in spring twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: and they are going to I guess give adapters to
Speaker 1: users of the F one fifty, the Mustang Mochi, the
Speaker 1: E Transit.
Speaker 2: But then later in twenty twenty five, they're going to.
Speaker 1: Equip their evs with the port that I guess Tesla
Speaker 1: superchargers just work with. So this is a pretty big
Speaker 1: step and I think it has very broad implications for
Speaker 1: the EV industry, Like basically we're establishing Tesla supercharging network
Speaker 1: is sort of the kind of the almost like the
Speaker 1: standard now and there's some pros and cons of that.
Speaker 2: So give me your thoughts on this.
Speaker 9: Well, on Thursday of this week, when this news broke.
Speaker 9: It was you're right, you took my you took my
Speaker 9: words right on the mouth. This is huge. This is
Speaker 9: this is the This is not only the accepting of Tesla,
Speaker 9: which when they came out to when they first announced
Speaker 9: many many years ago, you know, well less than a
Speaker 9: decade ago, that they were coming out with vehicles. All
Speaker 9: the grandiose plans and all the all the predictions and
Speaker 9: all the all the vehicles are going to have they
Speaker 9: didn't happen, so people didn't take them seriously. Well, now
Speaker 9: Tesla has taken extremely seriously with them with the Model
Speaker 9: Y being the most successful, the highest selling vehicle in
Speaker 9: the world in this category. I'm talking about any any vehicle, truck, car, anything,
Speaker 9: it's the number one and in the first quarter of
Speaker 9: this year, so they it's and it's just amazing. So
Speaker 9: what this is going to do for Ford because Ford
Speaker 9: is on a fast track just like our General Motors, Atlantis, ALII, Volkswagen,
Speaker 9: the Hundai Group, all of them, they're on this track
Speaker 9: that they're they're just going to be releasing vehicle evs
Speaker 9: like you just can't believe. And of course with the
Speaker 9: with the twenty thirty five mandate, coming up in California,
Speaker 9: that no new cars could be sold that aren't that
Speaker 9: aren't zero mission vehicles. You know, that's that's twelve years
Speaker 9: from now, eleven years from now. I mean, these companies,
Speaker 9: they they got to get their act together. And what
Speaker 9: Ford realized was, Hey, we're going to get in bed
Speaker 9: with these guys. Ford currently has something called blue Oval.
Speaker 2: This this is gonna sell.
Speaker 1: This is going to sell a lot of cars, and
Speaker 1: it's it's and it puts pressure on the other manufacturers
Speaker 1: to do the same thing, which I think, if you,
Speaker 1: you know, depending on how you look at it, is
Speaker 1: a little scary because now we're letting one company kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, rule this entire world of charging for evs,
Speaker 1: and like you just said, the market continues to grow
Speaker 1: for these things, and so I think that there's some
Speaker 1: some big implications here.
Speaker 2: John.
Speaker 1: We got to end it there, because we've talked so much.
Speaker 1: Tell folks how they can read all the stuff that
Speaker 1: you do, all these great road tests.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Our our website is clean fleet report dot com.
Speaker 9: And then when you get there, you can either read
Speaker 9: the featured stories on the top, or you can the
Speaker 9: search bar and type in any any mucle you want
Speaker 9: and you can find a review and yeah, so it
Speaker 9: is you and I've been on these programs together and
Speaker 9: it's uh, it's this is the most exciting time the
Speaker 9: automotive industry never been anything like.
Speaker 2: It's so great.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, I mean for myself, like looking
Speaker 1: at forward now, you know, because of this, I feel
Speaker 1: like I would give them a look for this car
Speaker 1: and other cars that are going with this platform because
Speaker 1: the ability to drive anywhere in charge is what the
Speaker 1: supercharger network brings to the table. But it's also scary because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, when when companies get too
Speaker 1: much power, sometimes the prices, you know, they follow. So
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna leave it there, John, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining me today.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'll see you soon, Okay, bye, all right.
Speaker 1: Coming up end of the show. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: It is your favorite segment. It's the feedback segment. It's
Speaker 1: the time when I will read all of this stuff
Speaker 1: that you send me.
Speaker 2: You hear it.
Speaker 1: It's all right here rich On tech Rich Demiro coming
Speaker 1: back at you in just a bit.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to a rich On tech Rich Demiro here
Speaker 1: hanging out with you, talking technology, and closing out the
Speaker 1: show with what has become one of your favorite segments,
Speaker 1: the Feedback. Before I get to the feedback, I've got
Speaker 1: ton this week, I want to just tell you about
Speaker 1: this Better Business Bureau website that I did a story
Speaker 1: on and it's very, very helpful. It's called the Scam
Speaker 1: Tracker BBB dot org slash scam Tracker, and I will
Speaker 1: put this up on my website rich on tech dot
Speaker 1: tv in the show notes. But if you think you're
Speaker 1: getting scammed, or if a family member is asking you
Speaker 1: about a scam, go to this website and just type
Speaker 1: in a keyword about what's happening to you, and I
Speaker 1: guarantee you you will find some sort of person that
Speaker 1: has reported this somewhere in the US. We talked to
Speaker 1: a woman who was trying to adopt a kitten and
Speaker 1: she ended up getting scammed out of about fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: And if she literally would have typed in the word
Speaker 1: kitten into this website, she would have read accounts from
Speaker 1: all over the US about the same exact scam that
Speaker 1: got her. And basically I kept promising her the cat
Speaker 1: and they just kept asking for more money, and it
Speaker 1: turned out to be.
Speaker 2: She didn't adopt.
Speaker 1: She was trying to go through like a breeder, which
Speaker 1: is a whole other can of worms. But anyway, BBB
Speaker 1: dot org, slash scam Tracker, Bookmarket, it's a really helpful site.
Speaker 2: And I think it can really really help people.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the feedback segment, Parker.
Speaker 2: You want to read the first one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will.
Speaker 4: So this is from Melinda and she said, there's a
Speaker 4: person on Instagram who's offering me thirty thousand dollars on
Speaker 4: his Instagram account and Instagram account says he's a Powerball
Speaker 4: winner and his purpose is to give donations to people.
Speaker 3: Could this you legit? How can I check?
Speaker 4: And the person's account was Dave underscored, Johnson underscored giveaway
Speaker 4: and plus some other numbers.
Speaker 1: So the guys, the guy's account on Instagram is Powerball
Speaker 1: Winner want the giveaway. Yeah, that sounds like a scam
Speaker 1: to me. So I hope you stay steer clear of that, Melinda,
Speaker 1: because that is a that is one hundred percent scam.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the scam is.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you have to send him something and then
Speaker 1: he'll send you some money or well purport to send
Speaker 1: you money, but that's anyone with uh what was his
Speaker 1: name again, what was the user name?
Speaker 4: It was Dave underscored, Johnson underscored, giveaway and plus some numbers.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's definitely. Yeah. Let's say if I had
Speaker 2: an that would be an do not do not go
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: Any says giveaway and yeah, that's that's a scam.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, let's go.
Speaker 1: Fred says, Hey, Rich, if you want to record anything
Speaker 1: on Windows ten or eleven, all you have to do
Speaker 1: is press the Windows key plus all plus R. This
Speaker 1: will record anything on the screen, including sound. This was
Speaker 1: in response to someone that called in about recording programming
Speaker 1: on like Amazon Prime and YouTube. And I tried this
Speaker 1: on my Windows and I could not get it to
Speaker 1: record the sound. And I'm not sure what I was
Speaker 1: doing wrong, but I have a feeling that sound may
Speaker 1: not be as easy to record. I know on the
Speaker 1: Mac it's a separate program that you need to record
Speaker 1: the sound. So but Fred, that's a that's a great
Speaker 1: way to record stuff on the screen that may not
Speaker 1: include sound. Again, Windows key all plus R is a
Speaker 1: good one. Stu chimed in about our conversation regarding AM radio.
Speaker 1: We were talking about how Ford was gonna ditch AM
Speaker 1: radio in their cars and a lot of people, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about that, and Stu chimed in.
Speaker 1: By the way, Ford had a change of heart and
Speaker 1: they ended up putting the AM back in it. But
Speaker 1: Stu said, AM radio died along with civilized talk radio.
Speaker 1: NPR was on FM podcast. Put a stake in it.
Speaker 1: No loss, Oh, Stu, as someone who's new to AM
Speaker 1: radio on the radio, you really stabbed me where it hurts.
Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, Parker up next, what's your next one?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 4: So our next one is Ron And he said, Hey, Rich,
Speaker 4: this is Ron from Arizona.
Speaker 3: I called you.
Speaker 4: I called you show on May thirteenth asking about a
Speaker 4: mesh why fight system for our thirteen thousand square foot church.
Speaker 3: I went with the EUO Pro six e. Install Installation
Speaker 3: was super easy. The system works great. Wi Fi is
Speaker 3: strong throughout the entire building.
Speaker 4: Our only issues so far as getting are printer connected.
Speaker 4: It worked fine with our old connection. We're having multiple
Speaker 4: problems with the new system. Oh well, technology, thank you
Speaker 4: so much for your help.
Speaker 2: I remember this call.
Speaker 1: He was trying to get the Wi Fi in the
Speaker 1: church and I recommended some systems, so I'm glad so
Speaker 1: we went with the consumer system, the EURO Pro. He's
Speaker 1: having trouble with the printer. I think the problem with
Speaker 1: the printer is that it's probably an older printer that
Speaker 1: uses the two point four gigahertz network.
Speaker 2: There is a.
Speaker 1: Setting in the EURO settings that if you're having trouble
Speaker 1: connecting a device, go into the troubleshooting section of the
Speaker 1: app and it will actually switch your network over to
Speaker 1: just two point four gigaherts for ten minutes to help
Speaker 1: you connect some of the those old gadgets that will
Speaker 1: then work with the network. But I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: that everything went well. It's is not always good when
Speaker 1: you hear some good feedback.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It is always nice like you.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna do some mean feedback from Oliver. Oliver
Speaker 1: wrote in Good Afternoon, stop in capitals with the what's
Speaker 1: going on? You sound like a valley girl. It dumbs
Speaker 1: you down. You're an adult now and you really don't
Speaker 1: need a catchphrase. And as Colombo says, one more thing,
Speaker 1: you are trying too hard to be all things to
Speaker 1: all people. Historically that does not work. Be careful and
Speaker 1: don't jump the shark too soon.
Speaker 2: Oliver.
Speaker 1: Well, Oliver, you know what, if you've been listening to
Speaker 1: my podcast, I've been saying what's going on for about
Speaker 1: five years, so I don't think I'm gonna stop just yet.
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate the feedback, and you know I'm
Speaker 1: open to back.
Speaker 3: Is always nice.
Speaker 1: But all right, Park, we're gonna have to say goodbye.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being on the show today. By the way,
Speaker 1: one more piece of feedback. We'll end it on a
Speaker 1: nice note. Ruth said, I'm the one that had the
Speaker 1: visa card hacked three times in a month.
Speaker 2: I followed your advice.
Speaker 1: I put on Apple Pay and I got an Apple
Speaker 1: card and so far, so good. And Ruth, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for listening to the show and following the
Speaker 1: I said, used tap to pay when you can, stop
Speaker 1: using your credit card or your debit card whatever she
Speaker 1: was using.
Speaker 2: I think it was a debit card online.
Speaker 1: Stop putting that card number in use service whenever you
Speaker 1: can that will mask your card number, whether that's Tap
Speaker 1: to pay or service like Privacy or even a credit
Speaker 1: card will protect you a little bit more.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm Richard Simiro.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to the show that's going
Speaker 1: to do it for this week. You can find me
Speaker 1: on social media at rich on Tech. There are so
Speaker 1: many ways you can spend your time. I do appreciate
Speaker 1: you spending it with me. Thanks to everyone who makes
Speaker 1: this show possible. Bi, we'll talk to you real soon.
Speaker 3: Say goodbye bye, Thank you all for listening. Have a
Speaker 3: nice day. Bye.