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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you to the brave men

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Speaker 1: And special guest in the studio today, my son Parker.

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Speaker 2: Can we hear Parker? Is he there? Park Hey?

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Speaker 3: Hey there you are everybody.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How about you.

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Speaker 1: I am doing fantastic. Well, you tell me. You know

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Speaker 1: how I'm doing. You live with me, So am I.

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Speaker 2: Always doing good?

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Speaker 4: It's a nice weekend. Yeah, I have to say it's

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Speaker 4: really nice. I think the sun's starting to pop out.

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Speaker 4: It's been a cold week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you're here to talk about Final Cut pro

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Speaker 3: Yes, I actually am.

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Speaker 2: You've been playing with that? Huh, yeah I have.

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Speaker 4: I've been playing with it for a couple of days

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Speaker 4: because I always wanted to. You know, I'm into editing

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Speaker 1: You'll take the stuff that I shoot and then you'll

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Speaker 1: we will talk about that in a little bit. Parker's

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Speaker 1: I may bring them on from now and then. So

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Speaker 1: my goal if you listen to this show is to

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Speaker 1: make it the most useful thing that you listen to.

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Speaker 2: That is always my goal.

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Speaker 1: So when I talk about stuff, when I choose the topics,

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Speaker 1: when I discuss things, it is all for you. And

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Speaker 2: In fact, I say it in the beginning of.

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Speaker 1: The show, I say, this is the show where I

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Speaker 1: talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about.

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Speaker 1: It's the stuff that I believe is important for your

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Speaker 1: life because we are modern tech animals. We are people

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Speaker 1: that are using technology, sometimes against our will. We all

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Speaker 1: a good day to share some of the apps that

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Speaker 1: I use on my phones that I love. And I

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Speaker 1: you some of the apps that I really like. So

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Speaker 1: number one, you have to write all these down. I'm

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Speaker 1: So Number one, email me. This is probably what I

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Speaker 1: After that, I have an app called Pocket, and this

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Speaker 1: in my pocket. Google Photos is my preferred photo app.

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Speaker 1: Travel, a ward wallet is my absolute favorite app for

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Speaker 1: neat timeline called my Trips, and it's just fantastic. Anything

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Speaker 1: Backdrops This is one of my favorites because it helps

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever paid for it, but it's

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Speaker 1: Splice is my absolute favorite editing app. It works on iPhone,

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Speaker 1: What three Words This is a really interesting app. I

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Speaker 1: track all of your flights. Flip is an app flipp

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Speaker 1: This categorizes all of the flyers that these companies put out,

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Speaker 1: So those are just a couple of apps that I use.

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Speaker 1: If you have an app that you like, tweet me

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Speaker 5: Hi Rich, this is Elam.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I have a quick question. My stepmother is selling her

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Speaker 7: she sold her computer. She just called me and said, oh,

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Speaker 8: Access her account.

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Speaker 7: It's that I don't even know. She's logged out of

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Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, So this is a good lesson for

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Speaker 1: any time you sell something, obviously you want to sign

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Speaker 7: So concerned about their bank account, I'm hoping that account

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Speaker 1: Those those usually time out after a minute or two

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Speaker 1: So I think that, I mean, this could be a

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Speaker 7: Right, okay, all right, sounds good. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, elim, thank you for calling today, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really, you know one of these things where it's

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Speaker 2: Also, your call is.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech. Joining me now

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Speaker 1: is Daniel Rubino.

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Speaker 1: Editor in chief of Windows Central. All right, so let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Built. What is Microsoft Built? What is that

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Speaker 10: Build is their annual developer conference, and it's been going

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Speaker 10: out for many years.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of changed focus.

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Speaker 10: For many years, there was a lot of consumer stuff

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Speaker 2: So let's kind of go through some of those.

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Speaker 1: So obviously Microsoft was first out of the gate with

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Speaker 10: Actually really really good news at least for Microsoft and

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Speaker 10: What I mean is chat GPT was trained on Microsoft

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Speaker 2: You know chat You're saying chat Gpt has more users

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Speaker 10: right hand side. You'll have a chat panel there. You

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Speaker 10: can basically access being chat right from that, but it

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Speaker 10: could do much more. So what makes this Copilot is

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Speaker 10: it's going to have features to say, control Windows, you

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Speaker 10: can actually ask it to do things, that can analyze documents.

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Speaker 10: It's going to be a lot more integrated into the

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Speaker 10: operating system. And it's my belief that this is just

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Speaker 10: the first step. You know, we're hearing rumors that Windows

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Speaker 10: twelve was coming in late twenty twenty four, and all

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Speaker 10: the evidence we have so far from our reporting comes

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Speaker 10: back about and is that that operating system is going

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Speaker 10: to really take AI to the next level in terms

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Speaker 10: of integrating into the operating system to make it even

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Speaker 10: more helpful and proactive for users.

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Speaker 1: And what's really neat about that is the fact that

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Speaker 1: these you know, Windows, there's a lot of features built

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Speaker 1: in and I would say people probably use you know,

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Speaker 1: five ten percent of them at the most.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 1: So if you can ask for something you want to do, Hey,

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Speaker 1: show me all the documents that are larger than one

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Speaker 1: hundred megabytes that haven't looked at in a year, you know, yep,

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Speaker 1: easily clean out your hard drive like little things like that.

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Speaker 1: That just it's just like this whole idea of natural

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Speaker 1: language is finally coming to fruition in a big way,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing for the for

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Speaker 1: the average user too.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, digital systems up until now have been pretty disappointing.

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Speaker 10: They were cool at first, but they just did not

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Speaker 10: evolve as quickly as we were all hoping to. So

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Speaker 10: they had to memorize a lot of commands, which is

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Speaker 10: a fantathetical to like user adoptions, right, because who's going

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Speaker 10: to go memorize certain commands to do certain tasks? You

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Speaker 10: have to have for knowledge that even exists, and that's

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Speaker 10: gonna be a difficult thing. That's you know, thankfully, it's

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Speaker 10: gonna be overcome now.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's also like not just the commands,

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Speaker 1: but it was only programmed to do certain things. And

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Speaker 1: so this I feel like this whole new generation of

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Speaker 1: like this you know, all this AI is that you

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Speaker 1: like don't really know what it can do, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter because you just ask and see what it

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Speaker 1: does and what it's capable of, and then you kind

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Speaker 1: of like adapt from there.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And there's only a whole subgenre of people that are

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Speaker 10: that's coming out of people who are basically masters at

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Speaker 10: commands for these chat systems, because you can really you're right,

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Speaker 10: I mean, people like started companies using these chat things

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Speaker 10: basically asking hey, create me a company, design a website

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Speaker 10: for me, blah blah blah, and they put in all

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Speaker 10: the specifications that they want, and this thing goes and

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Speaker 10: does it, and it's been pretty crazy, and most of

494
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Speaker 10: us are just like asking to do like summarize this document,

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Speaker 10: rewrite this sentence.

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Speaker 5: There are people take it to the next level.

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Speaker 10: Those people are going to be on the cutting edge

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Speaker 10: of this technology in terms of I would say knowledge

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Speaker 10: workers that are going to be hired and demand, because

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Speaker 10: that type of specialty is really interesting that most of

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Speaker 10: us currently just don't have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they call it like prompting, right, like how do

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Speaker 2: you prompt these things?

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Speaker 5: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: So that's wild. I mean it's I did it. There's

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Speaker 1: this chatbot that I'm using for like travel, and it's

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Speaker 1: like just so wild that you can give it such

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Speaker 1: specifics and instead of saying, like, hey, what are the

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Speaker 1: best things to do in Charleston? You know, like you

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Speaker 1: can look up that on the web all day, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, Hey, I have a nine year old a

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Speaker 1: twelve year old, we like vegan food and we like

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Speaker 1: outdoor activities. Tell me what to do in Charleston for

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Speaker 1: the weekend. And it's like that level of search has

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Speaker 1: just never been available before in an easy way exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be really fascinating. To see how

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Speaker 5: this is, and it's I think people need.

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Speaker 10: To understand that this technology is going to expand exponentially.

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Speaker 10: It's not going to be like where we had SIRIE

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Speaker 10: a couple of years ago and it got a little

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Speaker 10: better here and there.

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Speaker 5: This is going to rapidly evolve and there will.

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Speaker 10: Be some scary moments right to be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 10: I can't believe this is happening. But it's going to

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Speaker 10: evolve very very quickly because the more people use it,

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Speaker 10: the more data collects, the more the machine learning systems

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Speaker 10: and large language models take effect, the more accurate these

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Speaker 10: systems become.

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Speaker 1: So you're covering this stuff very closely. Anything else that

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Speaker 1: Microsoft announced that you think is really important to talk about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just in general.

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Speaker 10: Windows eleven is a big focus for them again, right,

533
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Speaker 10: so this is post pandemic new workforce out there. Computers

534
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Speaker 10: again are super important conferencing video calls, so AI is

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Speaker 10: going to be important for that.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 10: They're building it already into the operating and where it

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Speaker 10: can automack you blur your background, auto adjust, you cancel

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Speaker 10: out noise. NPUs Neural processing units are gonna be really important.

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Speaker 10: That's gonna be the next step Intel's or we got

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Speaker 10: those coming out, you're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be built into these laptops.

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Speaker 10: So a neural processing unit is a coprocessor whose specific

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Speaker 10: task is just to handle AI. Currently, what happens is

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Speaker 10: your CPU or GPU is doing that task. It's fine,

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Speaker 10: but it's brute force. These systems really weren't meant for that,

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Speaker 10: and it's going to drain your battery and all that,

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Speaker 10: which on the laptop is very important. And NPU though,

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Speaker 10: is specifically focused to do the kind of algorithmic processing

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Speaker 10: without hitting your CPU and GPU and saving battery life.

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Speaker 5: And processing cycles.

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Speaker 10: So you guys start to see that integrated into laptops

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Speaker 10: and desktop PCs, and it's going to allow things like

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Speaker 10: human presence detection. The monitor I'm using right now is

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Speaker 10: made by Delves, their new six K. It has a

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Speaker 10: really nice four K HDR camera and it has sensors

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Speaker 10: so that it's a text If I'm in front of it,

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Speaker 10: it's almost like a sonar system. If I walk away

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Speaker 10: from it, the monitor can then turn off, and when

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Speaker 10: I walk back in front of it, it turns on.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to touch anything. That kind of technology

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Speaker 5: is going to.

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Speaker 10: Be coming to all our computers within the next couple months,

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Speaker 10: in the next year or so, and it's going to

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Speaker 10: be basically making all our computers even smarter in ways

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Speaker 10: we hadn't really thought about before.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is incredible. All right, Daniel, we're going to

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Speaker 1: leave it there, Editor in chief of Windows Central. How

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Speaker 1: can folks get in touch with you online?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 10: I'm on Twitter, Daniel, Underscore, Rabino, r Ubi, and oh

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Speaker 10: I'm also on Macedon and blue Sky, so you can

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Speaker 10: follow me if you go to my Twitter profile. They're

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Speaker 10: listed there, so you can jump on those and choose

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Speaker 10: your preference. Otherwise, we do our own podcast on Friday's

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Speaker 10: at one thirty pm Eastern Time, where we recap all

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Speaker 10: the news for gaming, Microsoft, Windows and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Perfect tune in, all right, Daniel, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today. Coming up, we're going to talk more

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Speaker 1: about let's see, let's do Amazon. They've got a tablet

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Speaker 1: that's actually their best yet and it's one you might

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Speaker 1: a question about technology, give me a call. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Rich on tech rich on tech rich Demiro hanging

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Speaker 1: have some great pieces of clothing, several with tags never

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Speaker 1: warn that I'm considering selling online. I've researched to different websites,

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Speaker 1: watched YouTube videos and tutorials, but I'm still not sure

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Speaker 1: what the best platform is for me. I would like

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Speaker 1: to be able to make some fun money and have

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Speaker 1: the time to do it. Any suggestions, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your help, Heidi. Well, Heidi, I think that

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways you can do this. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: eBay is the kind of the old school method at

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Speaker 1: this point, but there's so many other ways of selling

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Speaker 1: things online, especially clothes. I mean, just the offer up

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Speaker 1: is the one that comes. I think we did a

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Speaker 1: story a couple of years ago and offer up was

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Speaker 1: really the one that kind of was picked as the best.

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Speaker 1: But for clothes specifically, there's just so many and I

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Speaker 1: don't really have a lot of experience selling clothes online,

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Speaker 1: but I mean Facebook, Marketplace is obviously another one. Thread

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Speaker 1: Up is one Mrcari. That's another one that people like,

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Speaker 1: and then isn't Poshmark. I'm not really sure what that

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Speaker 1: one's all about, but I know Poshmark a lot of

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Speaker 1: people like.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I mean, I think no.

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Speaker 1: Matter which one of these you choose, it really comes

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Speaker 1: down to, don't get scammed because there are just so

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Speaker 1: many people ready to prey on you when it comes

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Speaker 1: to these online marketplaces. And that's really what I think

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Speaker 1: the most important lesson is no matter which one of

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Speaker 1: these you use, because I think what you do is

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Speaker 1: what I would do, is just put the same item

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Speaker 1: on a couple of them and see what my experience is,

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Speaker 1: see which one feels the best, is the simplest, is

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Speaker 1: the easiest, and then I'd go with that one. But

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these things, you know,

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Speaker 1: you put something on there and immediately you get spammed

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Speaker 1: with a lot of people trying to buy stuff, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of them are just kind of like, not

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Speaker 1: really someone you want to deal with. So that's what

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Speaker 1: I would do. But I think that's the main lesson

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Speaker 1: I sold. The last time I sold something, it was

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Speaker 1: on offer up and it was a great experience. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you chat back and forth with the person.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was cash deal. So they came to

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Speaker 1: my house, they picked up the chair that I sold,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was very easy. I think I

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Speaker 1: sold like a chair that I bought for a couple

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Speaker 1: hundred bucks for like twenty bucks. But it was interesting

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Speaker 1: because the person wanted to complete their their chair. They

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Speaker 1: had another one, the same exact one I had. They

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Speaker 1: wanted to complete that and it wasn't being sold at

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Speaker 1: the retailer anymore. So they, you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: great deal for them and for me. It just got

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Speaker 1: this big giant chair out of my garage, so it

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Speaker 1: was perfect. That's what I would do is just be

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Speaker 1: very aware of these transactions because but you know, people

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Speaker 1: have a great time selling this stuff online and really

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Speaker 1: enjoying it.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Amazon tablet that launched

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Speaker 1: this week. It's called the fire Max eleven. This is

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Speaker 1: Amazon's biggest and most powerful tablet yet, and this might

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Speaker 1: give the iPad a run for its money if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for a budget tablet. I still think that the

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Speaker 1: iPad is the best tablet out there, but this is

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Speaker 1: the fire Max eleven. Amazon says it's fifty percent more

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Speaker 1: powerful than its next best tablet, which tells you something

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Speaker 1: that means it's pretty good. It's got an eleven inch screen.

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Speaker 1: The price is two hundred and twenty nine dollars, which

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Speaker 1: is a great price. I know it's more expensive than

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Speaker 1: most of their tablets, but this is a premium tablet.

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Speaker 1: It's got a good display, it's got a fingerprint sensor

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Speaker 1: for the first time. It's got super fast Wi Fi

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Speaker 1: an available stylust and a keyboard, which they've had them

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Speaker 1: in the past, not the stylist, but they've had the

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been kind of like eh, but you know,

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Speaker 1: this even has a three month trial of Microsoft three

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Speaker 1: really positioning this as something that, you know, could be productive.

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Speaker 1: I think that this would be a good tablet if

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Speaker 1: of the really cheap fire tablets, you want something that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more premium. I have not tested this yet.

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Speaker 1: I have not gotten a test review of this thing,

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Speaker 1: so it comes out in June again. It's called the

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Speaker 1: fire Max eleven. My advice with any Amazon device is

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Speaker 1: always puts their stuff on sale, especially around Prime Day

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Speaker 1: or throughout the year. So just put this in your

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Speaker 1: honey to keep an eye on the price because it

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Speaker 1: will drop again. Firemax eleven two hundred and thirty dollars

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Speaker 1: coming out in June. If you want to get the

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Speaker 1: bundle with the case and the keyboard and the stylus

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Speaker 1: is three hundred and thirty dollars, so not too bad.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's the Amazon Fire Max eleven coming soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up to the show, we still got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, including your calls at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one on one.

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Speaker 1: talk about the newest streamer in town called Max. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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Speaker 1: triple eight Rich one O one. That's eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Neon. Neon is in Norwalk, California.

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Speaker 2: Neon. You're on with Rich.

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Speaker 11: Hi had to is it Parker your son? You had

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Speaker 11: to him?

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Speaker 2: Parker's right here, Say hello Parker.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Parker is fine?

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Speaker 11: Thank you? Oh my god, that's so great. So anyway,

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Speaker 11: let's go. I know you have to much time, So

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Speaker 11: I want to buy Amazon echoes so I can talk

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Speaker 11: to it and you know, and and ask him to

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Speaker 11: give me information. Uh, would you answer all the all

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Speaker 11: the information that I that I asked for it as for.

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Speaker 1: Hm hmm, well, like you mean like smart question like

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Speaker 1: just questions.

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Speaker 11: Let's let's say who was Napoleon? Let's say whatever, who

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Speaker 11: was this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll get the basics right on that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I think that if you want the

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Speaker 1: best answers, I really think that and Parker can answer this.

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Speaker 1: You what do you think would be better for answers

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Speaker 1: like A I like, well AI?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say, yeah, the probably I would say, like,

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Speaker 4: if you're using.

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Speaker 3: AI, probably barred, right, But he wants to do voice assistant, oh,

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Speaker 3: voice distant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then I would probably say Google, uh, the Google

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Speaker 4: Home because like, yeah, I mean it's really it's like

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Speaker 3: It's like top notch.

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Speaker 4: Uh. Next one would be Alexa. Alexa is still pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, and then we have Theory, which I think

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Speaker 4: Theory is probably third, and then alexas second, and Google

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Speaker 4: Home is first.

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Speaker 3: I would recommend Google Home.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you're so smart.

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Speaker 11: Okay, So so what if I say, Alexa to YouTube,

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Speaker 11: I want to listen to YouTube?

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Speaker 1: Well, I see again, you're you're kind of calling out

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Speaker 1: probably be a better, better solution there because Google has

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Speaker 1: that direct connection to YouTube. Now, I think the Echo show,

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Speaker 1: you know, it can do some of these things, but

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Speaker 1: again it's a little bit more limited in the scope

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Speaker 1: of what it can do. It can work with a

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Speaker 1: lot of third party items and you know, smart home things,

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Speaker 1: but YouTube specifically, are you trying to watch YouTube videos

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Speaker 1: or are you trying to listen to YouTube music?

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Speaker 11: Listen? Yeah, listen, listen to YouTube. Because it is a

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Speaker 11: speaker doesn't have a screen, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends on the one you get. So when

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Speaker 1: it comes to I mean both Amazon and Google, they

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Speaker 1: both have both. So some of the Amazon devices, like

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Speaker 1: the Echo they're called the Echo shows, those have a screen,

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Speaker 1: and then the Echo does not have a screen, that's

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Speaker 1: just a speaker. So if you're going Echo show screen,

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Speaker 1: Echo no screen. And then if you want on Google side,

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Speaker 1: there are Google Home speakers, and then there's the Google

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Speaker 1: Nest hubs and those have displays.

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Speaker 2: So either way you'll be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: But if if you want the Echo show, it supports

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Speaker 1: a lot of variety of services, I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that it supports. I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: the website here to see. I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's like a lot of third party things that you

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Speaker 11: Another question, is Internet or count Internet is connected by

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Speaker 11: itself to the Internet.

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Speaker 1: No, you will need Internet, so you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: connect either one of these to Wi Fi. So, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at some of the supported services on

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Speaker 1: the Echo Show. You've got Amazon Music, You've got Apple Music, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: Prime Video, Netflix, Hulu, Food Network, Kitchen, Headspace, Audible, NPR,

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Speaker 1: Amazon Photos, and a couple others. So, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's one of these things where Amazon's always adding new features.

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Speaker 1: But it's just you know, you kind of have to

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Speaker 1: I think that the Google is going to be better

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Speaker 1: for you because it's just it's just it's made by

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Speaker 1: the same company and kind of just work together really well.

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Speaker 11: Okay, say thank you to Parker and you Okay, thank

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Speaker 11: you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, Neil, thanks for calling in today. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Phone number triple eight rich one on one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's Memorial Day weekend, obviously a lot of people having

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Speaker 1: folks over to the house, So what do we do

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Speaker 1: clean up the backyard for the first time? And you know,

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Speaker 1: all season, what is it? What is the deal with

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Speaker 1: when people are coming over? It makes you clean the

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Speaker 1: do this, but you don't do it until someone's coming

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Speaker 1: to the house and you say, okay, we should probably

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Speaker 1: to that level of something, you're always so frustrated that

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Speaker 1: it's gotten to that level that you're just like, why

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Speaker 1: is our backyard so dirty? And why is the outside

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Speaker 1: so messy? And why is the inside And then you

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Speaker 1: get on this whole big you know, not ramp, but

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Speaker 1: you're just like you're on this mission to like fix everything,

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Speaker 1: and you're doing it on the day people are coming over.

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Speaker 1: So that happened to us today before the show. We're

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Speaker 1: sitting there going through everything. We're like rearranging stuff, cleaning stuff,

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Speaker 1: decide to do it today of all days? We should

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Speaker 1: if you do a little bit every weekend, it's like

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Speaker 1: you'll keep things in order. But no, it's when I

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Speaker 1: grew up, it was the same thing. My parents would

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Speaker 1: do the same stuff. We'd have a party. Inevitably you'd

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Speaker 1: the house, or you'd be like, you know, replanting the

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Speaker 1: flowers or something. So I don't know why we decide

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Speaker 1: need to have people over and you should be relaxing.

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Speaker 1: But it's just the way we work. So maybe that's

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Speaker 1: just everyone all right. You can follow me on social media.

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Speaker 1: I am at rich on Tech, on Instagram, on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Typically I go through what I've posted on

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Speaker 1: Instagram for the week at rich on Tech. This week

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Speaker 1: was a big one. Anytime I go to like one

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Speaker 1: of these big events, there's always like something really interesting

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Speaker 1: at these events and visual So this week, let's see,

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Speaker 1: I went to this place called Lake Hollywood where they

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Speaker 1: have this great view of the Hollywood Sign in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I've lived in the area for many years, never been

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Speaker 1: and it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: So I just took my phone out.

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Speaker 1: I made a little Instagram reel of that, and it's

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Speaker 1: just if you have people coming to Los Angeles. If

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Speaker 1: Lake Hollywood Park. It is probably the best place in

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Speaker 1: the world to take a picture of the Hollywood Sign.

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Speaker 1: My picture is not very good, but the video I

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Speaker 1: took gives you an idea of just how nice this is.

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Speaker 1: Then I went to this thing called the Display Week,

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Speaker 1: This is like a trade group, but this was probably

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Speaker 1: one of the most visual shows I've ever been to

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Speaker 1: outside of CS So I did a video of this

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Speaker 1: sixty five inch eight K foldable o LED display. And

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Speaker 1: it's not something that they're going to make today. You've

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Speaker 1: seen foldable phones, imagine that, but giant sixty five inch screen.

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Speaker 1: This thing is enormous. It folds up into a little box.

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Speaker 1: Why would you need it? I have no idea. Now

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Speaker 1: people are debating on my Instagram. Why do you need

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Speaker 1: a TV that folds up into a little box?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But maybe you have an RV I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have like a small space, maybe you have

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Speaker 1: a little apartment that doesn't fit a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it just these companies like to flex a little

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Speaker 1: bit and show off what is possible. And if they didn't,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a bad thing, right because we wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: the innovations that lead to things that are actually useful.

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Speaker 1: But this TV sixty five inch o lad screen, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty incredible. It's from TCL and it's not a TV.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just a display, so that's on there

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Speaker 1: as well. And then ugh, this is really cool. It's

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Speaker 1: called a micro display. These are displays that are going

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Speaker 1: to be powering our VR and AR headsets. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about this stuff right now

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Speaker 1: because Apple is holding their next big event on June fifth,

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Speaker 1: which I'll be at, and they are widely expected to

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Speaker 1: show off a new augmented reality headset. And so the

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Speaker 1: reality is this is something that people have been talking

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Speaker 1: about with Apple for so long, so long, and it's

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Speaker 1: finally coming to fruition supposedly, so these little displays, and

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Speaker 1: all the people at the event were like, they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to say it was because of Apple, but they're like,

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Speaker 1: these are going to be very important, very soon. But

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Speaker 1: I look through this little and I have this video

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram at Richon Tech.

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Speaker 2: You have to take a look.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a peephole on a door, but you

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Speaker 1: look through and there is a giant it almost looks

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Speaker 1: like a giant screen inside. And what this is is

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Speaker 1: it is a one point three inch four K micro

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Speaker 1: o led display one point three inches but you look

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Speaker 1: through this magnifying glass and it looks like an entire

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Speaker 1: world inside.

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Speaker 2: And just the way I shot it.

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Speaker 1: It kind of like zooms in it and you like

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Speaker 1: look almost like you're peering into it and you just

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Speaker 1: see this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's quite incredible. So that's on there as well.

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Speaker 1: But those were two things that sort of went not viral,

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Speaker 1: but you know, definitely a lot of interest. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is this idea called a living vehicle. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like an RV, but it's a self sustainable, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, a living vehicle, and it's got solar on

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Speaker 1: the top. It's also pulls water in from thin air,

887
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Speaker 1: and people are like, Rich, this is called an RV.

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00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: We've had RVs forever. Well, RVs don't necessarily have solar

889
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Speaker 1: and pull water from the air, so you can live anywhere.

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Speaker 1: That was on my Facebook page and people are debating

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Speaker 1: that as well. So lots of things always being posted.

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Speaker 1: I love going to these events because I just get

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Speaker 1: to see all this cool stuff, and of course I'm

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Speaker 1: sharing it with you.

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Speaker 2: That's you know.

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Speaker 1: I do this stuff for TV, but I put on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram as well, and it's just a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun to do it all right. Coming up this week,

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Speaker 1: the Surgeon General said that social media has a definite

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Speaker 1: impact on teenagers. So we're going to talk Jim Steyer

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Speaker 1: of Common Sense Media. He's gonna tell us some thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that whole situation. We've got your calls at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one. You can also

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Speaker 1: email hello at richon tech dot TV. My name is

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Speaker 1: Rich Dimiro. You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome

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00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. This is the show where

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00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: I talk about the tech stuff. I think you should

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Speaker 1: know about. It's also the place where I answer your

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Speaker 1: questions about technology. The phone lines are open. Kim is

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Speaker 1: standing by to take your call and get you on

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Speaker 1: the show at Triple eight rich one oh one. That's

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one

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Speaker 1: zero one to a party in the studio here. I've

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Speaker 1: got my son Parker, got Adam on the board, and

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Speaker 1: we've got Paully Ann calling in from Arcadia.

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Speaker 2: Paully Anne, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: Oh, thank you. I'm in Temple City now. I was

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Speaker 12: driving home from the market.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've shifted locations.

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Speaker 12: Yes, here's my problem I have. Maybe it's an iPhone

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Speaker 12: ten or eleven. I charge it every night while I'm

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Speaker 12: in bed, and this morning I woke up to take

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Speaker 12: a look at my phone and it was dead.

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Speaker 6: And I've been.

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Speaker 12: Trying to revive it. And you're probably my last call

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Speaker 12: before I call AT and T to figure out what next, because,

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Speaker 12: thank goodness, I have a watch. Okay, I cannot say

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Speaker 12: enough about the Apple Watch because at least I have

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Speaker 12: this watch in which I'm speaking to you.

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Speaker 1: Now you're calling me. Hold on, you're calling me from

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Speaker 1: your watch. Yes, this is incredible. This is a first

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Speaker 1: for the show.

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Speaker 2: I think I can't.

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Speaker 12: Say enough about the Apple Watch. It's not even a

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Speaker 12: new fancy one, but it's great.

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Speaker 2: I got to say.

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Speaker 1: It sounds excellent. It sounds really really good. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: when Apple launched the Apple Watch, they had a person

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a lake on a on a

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Speaker 1: one of those things called not a canoe, the paddle board.

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Speaker 1: She was on a paddle board and she she called

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Speaker 1: live on the stage when they were demoing this capability

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Speaker 1: the call quality of the Apple Watch, and it was excellent,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm very impressed.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. Okay, so you have this phone. Do you know

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Speaker 2: which model number it is?

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Speaker 12: I think it's the ten or eleven. Okay, one of

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Speaker 12: the first ones that have the there's no home button.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's goods.

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Speaker 12: Just swipe the screen. I'm wondering if it's just dark

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Speaker 12: and I'm not seeing it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're okay. So here's what I want

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Speaker 2: you to do.

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Speaker 1: So there is most people now you've probably tried holding

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Speaker 1: down the home button and it doesn't do anything right correct,

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Speaker 1: like the side button. Okay, So there is a little

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Speaker 1: trick with the iPhone that is not widely known but

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Speaker 1: it's a can we call it kind of a hard

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Speaker 1: restart or a force restart, and this should just should

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Speaker 1: kind of snap it into action. So let's try this together.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of like the old days of

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Speaker 1: like abba, you gotta press. So here's here's the what

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Speaker 1: you have to do. So you press and release the

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Speaker 1: volume up. Don't do this just yet, so it's pressure

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Speaker 1: release volume up, pressure release volume down, and then you

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Speaker 1: press and hold the side button until the Apple logo appears.

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Speaker 2: So, okay, have you tried this yet?

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Speaker 12: I have, but I am willing to try it again.

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Speaker 1: You got to limber up the fingers, so kind of

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Speaker 1: do a little stretch with them, you know, get them going,

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Speaker 1: and then up volume up, volume down, and then press

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Speaker 1: and hold the side button until the Apple logo appears.

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Speaker 12: Okay, I am pressing and holding this side button and

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Speaker 12: I'm thinking happy.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts and you gotta It might take a bit because it's.

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Speaker 12: Like, you know, it's yes, I understand, you know, it.

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Speaker 1: Tells it tells the phone like, hey, stop fooling around.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's you know, get down to business here,

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Speaker 1: and let's let's actually force restart this thing now. Are

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Speaker 1: you positive that it charged overnight?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was plugged in. I've tested that cord with

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Speaker 12: other devices. You know, it lights up other devices I've tried.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I woke up at like seven o'clock, so

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Speaker 12: I've been trying to pull it in and charge it

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Speaker 12: for all this time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now when you okay, now that same exact charger.

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Speaker 1: Did you try and this is kind of like the

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Speaker 1: troubleshooting steps. I would take it home. Did you try

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Speaker 1: plugging that into like another device and watching it say charging?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And it does, so you confirm that. Now the other

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Speaker 1: thing is that so this isn't working. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: this would have come up by now, okay, like you

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Speaker 1: you didn't see the Apple logo come up? Nope, okay,

997
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: So if that didn't happen, it sounds like your phone

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Speaker 1: is dead. So I would what I would do personally

999
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Speaker 1: is I would look in the port, have you do

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Speaker 1: you have a wireless charger available.

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Speaker 12: To you now?

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Speaker 1: Because what I would do is I would try putting

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Speaker 1: it on a wireless charger and see if that brings

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Speaker 1: it to life, and then that might mean that you

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Speaker 1: have something stuck in the bottom of this phone. That's

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Speaker 1: causing it to not charge. So when you plug it in,

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Speaker 1: do you hear anything? No, no sound to let it

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Speaker 1: wait wait.

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Speaker 12: Wait it just I don't see that Apple logo, but

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Speaker 12: I see it looks like a little screen that it

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00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 12: looks like a computer.

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Speaker 2: It looks like okay.

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00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 12: Rectangle like, hey charge this.

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00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's a good sign. So it sounds like.

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Speaker 12: It's okay restore Okay, this is this is hopeful.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you have the magic.

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Speaker 1: Well it sounds like it's coming back to life, slowly

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00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: but surely. So I would just continue on whatever it's

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Speaker 1: saying on the screen. Just see what it's kind of saying.

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Speaker 1: If it's uh, you know, selling you to restart it,

1021
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: or is it saying restore.

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Speaker 12: It's support dot Apple dot com or slash iPhone forward,

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00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 12: slash store, and it's saying, hey.

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Speaker 2: Plug it, plug it into plug it into a computer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that into Yeah, so I would plug it

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Speaker 1: into your computer and see hopefully have a backup that

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Speaker 1: could be. But I would at this point, since you've

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Speaker 1: gotten it to come alive, does it does it show

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00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: the battery icon?

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Speaker 12: No, it doesn't. It's just showing like it's showing like

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00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 12: the little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's showing that it's saying like basically, plug me

1033
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: into a computer to kind of go to the next step.

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00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: So I guess you can try that and see what happens.

1035
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Or you can try restarting it again one more time

1036
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: with that force restart. Now that it's kind of come

1037
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Speaker 1: to life, you might try one more time to just

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00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: restart it or maybe hold down the side button and

1039
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: see if that will do it. So, but that's uh,

1040
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the main thing to do. But

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00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: I think it sounds like it's starting to come back

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Speaker 1: to life.

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Speaker 12: So that's the kin very I'm very hopeful, So thank

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00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 12: you so much. I've been watching you ONLA five and

1045
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 12: without any other resources, I heard you on the radio.

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Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, let's.

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Speaker 1: Try this well, try it out and email me hello

1048
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: at rich on tech dot tv to let me know

1049
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: if your phone in fact comes back to life. The

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00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: iPhone is this weird thing because there's not many buttons,

1051
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: there's not many instructions, so when it's something, it usually works.

1052
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: When it doesn't, it's kind of like, okay, now what

1053
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Speaker 1: do I do. But the good news is Apple has

1054
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Speaker 1: built some things into the iPhone that help you get

1055
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Speaker 1: it back to working, even if it seems like it's

1056
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Speaker 1: gone terribly wrong. But it sounds like her phone is

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Speaker 1: kind of there's some life still breathing into it. So

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to have a happy ending for

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Speaker 1: that one, Paullyan, So thanks for thanks for calling in

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Speaker 1: today at triple eight rich one on one. Coming up next,

1061
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk to the founder and CEO of

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Speaker 1: Common Sense. He is going to discuss the Surgeon General's

1063
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Speaker 1: warning about the impact of social media on teens. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

1065
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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here talking technology with you at triple eight

1066
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Speaker 1: rich one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two,

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Speaker 1: four to one zero one. This week, the Surgeon General

1068
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Speaker 1: issued a public warning about the risks of social media

1069
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Speaker 1: to young people, saying basically that we don't really know

1070
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Speaker 1: the impact of this stuff, so we've got to be

1071
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Speaker 1: on guard. And I think that's where I'll bring in

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Speaker 1: Jim Steier. He is the founder and CEO of Common

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Speaker 1: Sense Media. Jim, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Good to be here.

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Speaker 9: Rich.

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Speaker 6: Hey, So about the Surgeon General.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about this.

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Speaker 1: So first off, just kind of give me your What

1079
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Speaker 1: did the Surgeon General say, is it? I kind of

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00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: summarized it very quickly, but he basically just said that, like, look,

1081
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Speaker 1: we don't really know what's going on here, so we

1082
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: need to be aware of this, and kind.

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Speaker 6: Of no, I actually rich he went much further than

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Speaker 6: First of all, the surgeon General, doctor Badak Murphy is

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Speaker 6: one of the best leaders in the United States. He

1086
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 6: was Surgeon General under President Obama and then he was

1087
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Speaker 6: reappointed by President Biden. He's one of the great medical

1088
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Speaker 6: and public health expersts in the United States and the

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Speaker 6: a parent, by the way, And he actually went a

1090
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Speaker 6: lot farther than you said. He said, we believe that

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Speaker 6: social media is hazardous to the mental health of young people,

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Speaker 6: period full stop. And he said there are a number

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Speaker 6: of different elements of this, but the evidence is now

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Speaker 6: quite clear that social media, used unwisely by tens of

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Speaker 6: millions of kids in the United States has a very

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Speaker 6: delagorious impact on their health and mental health, on issues

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Speaker 6: like addiction and tension, distraction, on issues like body image

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Speaker 6: and eating disorders, on issues regarding suicide and self harmed.

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Speaker 6: So he actually went much farther. It's quite similar to

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Speaker 6: what the Surgeon General of the United States did fifty

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00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 6: years ago or so when they put the warning label

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Speaker 6: on the package of cigarettes that said tobacco smoking is

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Speaker 6: hazardous your health. So this is a landmark moment for

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Speaker 6: the Surgeon General and he did it on his own.

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Speaker 6: The White House newe was going to come out with it.

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Speaker 6: But it's really a statement by doctor Murphy. And I

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Speaker 6: think for everyone in your audience, every parent, every educator,

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Speaker 6: and every young person, they should listen loud and clear

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Speaker 6: to what doctor Murphy had to say.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really impactful.

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Speaker 1: And I okay, so I guess breaking it down, what

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Speaker 1: do you think we do from here? So now we're

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Speaker 1: saying like, yeah, there's a problem, we know there's a problem.

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Speaker 2: What is the solution? I mean what you know?

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Speaker 1: Because tech companies, like any company, they don't want to

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Speaker 1: be regulated. They don't want anyone to step in and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: here's what you should do, so they come up with

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Speaker 1: their own. You know, Instagram has a little warning that

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Speaker 1: says you bring on for an hour and kids just

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Speaker 1: click through it. It's really a wild West when it

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Speaker 1: comes to these programs, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: That's right? And they've clearly failed let's be just blunt

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Speaker 6: about it. So Rich you did and introduce me as

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Speaker 6: the head of Common Sense Media and the founder. But

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Speaker 6: we are, you know, far and away the largest shall

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Speaker 6: advoacy and kids media and tech group in the United

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00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 6: States and globally. So what has to be done is

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Speaker 6: multiple things. First and foremost, they absolutely need to be regulated,

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Speaker 6: and they actually are in certain places. For example, in

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Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, we passed a major privacy law in California,

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Speaker 6: which is essentially the law of the land in the

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Speaker 6: United States now, which protects everyone's privacy, including adults, but

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Speaker 6: it particularly protects the privacy of young people. That doesn't

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Speaker 6: mean that social media platforms necessarily always follow every guideline

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Speaker 6: in that law, but that was a big issue around privacy,

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Speaker 6: and last year in California we passed a major piece

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Speaker 6: of legislation called the Age Appropriate Design Code, which actually

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 6: holds platforms like Instagram and snapchats and TikTok et cetera

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Speaker 6: a liable for the design flaws that will addict young

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Speaker 6: people to the platforms.

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Speaker 2: Like gambling. Even for adults.

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Speaker 1: When you log on to Instagram and see those little

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Speaker 1: hearts that pop up in the comments, that's like gambling.

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00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I got something.

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Speaker 6: Very good acknology, very good announce because it's addictive and

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00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 6: it leads to compulsive behavior, just like gambling does. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, you're right, the efforts by the companies

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00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 6: like Instagram are pathetic. They are not really serious. They're

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00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 6: just sort of fig leaves in order to try to

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00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 6: make like they're make it look like they're doing something.

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Speaker 6: So there's number one. The solution is clear and bold regulation.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, there's a major bill in California

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Speaker 6: right now, SB two eighty seven that's authored by Senator

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Speaker 6: Nancy Skinner and endorsed by the Attorney General Rob Bonta,

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Speaker 6: which would hold social media platforms legally liable for harms

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Speaker 6: they do to young people under the age of eighteen.

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Speaker 6: So that's a very important bill. By the way, that's

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Speaker 6: right in Sacramento. Now you might ask why I'm talking

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Speaker 6: about Sacramento versus Washington, d C. Well, the reason is

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Speaker 6: because the Congress has been missing in action since Mark

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Speaker 6: Zuckerberg was in diapers. They literally have not passed any

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Speaker 6: regulatory structure for social media or the tech industry writ

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Speaker 6: large since the late nineties. So in the period of

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Speaker 6: massive change where everyone now is affected by the Internet

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Speaker 6: and social media and big tech platforms. Congress has been

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Speaker 6: completely missing in action and has failed the American public pathetically,

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Speaker 6: partly because the tech companies have lobbied so much against it.

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Speaker 6: So California has essentially become the place in the United

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Speaker 6: States that regulate tech companies, but Europe also does as well.

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Speaker 6: So one issue is regulation, but the second thing is

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Speaker 6: you really have to educate young people about all of this,

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Speaker 6: and so we have a program in one hundred and

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Speaker 6: ten thousand schools. Collegen's a big organization about digital literacy

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Speaker 6: and citizenship, and some of that's about basic how to

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Speaker 6: protect your identity, how to keep your privacy, how to

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Speaker 6: not compare yourself to everybody on the internet on platforms

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Speaker 6: like Instagram, But some of it's now increasingly about mental

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Speaker 6: health issues. And that's why the Surgeon General released this

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Speaker 6: warning this past week because he's really concerned that we,

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Speaker 6: which we do, have a mental health crisis in this country,

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Speaker 6: and it's clear that social media is one of the

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Speaker 6: major contributing factors. So there's an education alternate solution to

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Speaker 6: and then they're finally holding the tech industry accountable not

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Speaker 6: just through legislation, but quite frankly through shaming them when

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Speaker 6: they do stuff that tazards the help of young people.

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Speaker 1: Now, some of these suggestions in the report where create boundaries,

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Speaker 1: limit the use of phones, tablets, computers for at least

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Speaker 1: one hour before bedtime, you know, keep meal times and

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Speaker 1: in person gatherings, device free, engage in two way conversations,

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Speaker 1: connect with people in person, make unplugged interactions a daily priority.

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Speaker 1: And then some of the stuff you mentioned, be cautious

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Speaker 1: about what you share. And then they get into don't

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Speaker 1: keep harassment or abuse a secret when and that comes to,

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Speaker 1: you know, cyber bullying and all those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I notice, as you know, a spectator

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Speaker 1: in not only having kids but also sure, what I

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Speaker 1: see is that this thing is a babysitter. It is simple,

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Speaker 1: it's easy, it's it works everywhere. It allows parents to

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Speaker 1: enjoy their dinner. And I don't think that there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of impetus by parents or kids to think about

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff. So how do we change that

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Speaker 1: part of it?

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Speaker 6: So that's a really good question, rich and honestly, again,

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Speaker 6: running the biggest organization in the country on these issues.

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Speaker 6: I would tell you that there's more awareness than you

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 6: just suggested about this. But you're right, it's an updill battle.

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Speaker 6: So if the onus were only on parents and young

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Speaker 6: people themselves to follow all those suggestions that you just

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Speaker 6: listed from the surgeon in general, right, that would probably

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Speaker 6: not be sufficient alone. Although I would tell you, having

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Speaker 6: run common Sense now for nearly twenty years, there's been

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Speaker 6: a sea change in understanding of thing. But for example,

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Speaker 6: I'm the father or four kids. Rich I don't know

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Speaker 6: how many kids.

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Speaker 2: You have, but I've got two. I've got one in

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Speaker 2: studio with me today, my eleven year old.

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Speaker 6: There you go, Well, you should ask your kid in

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00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: the studio what rules they followed, But I will, but put.

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Speaker 2: Me on the spot. Believe met it put them on

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Speaker 2: the spot.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, the doctor Bentsy is totally correctly. Look, you

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00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 6: shouldn't go to bed with your phone. You should put

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Speaker 6: it away or your tablet. And so that's a rule

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: that parents can enforce, but they have to also be

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Speaker 6: a role model. One thing that we say, we have

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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty million users that common Sense media annually,

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Speaker 6: so we tell parents all the time by the way

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Speaker 6: I'm a parent myself, and no one's perfect is you know,

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00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 6: you've got to practice what you preach. So if you

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00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 6: want to have device free dinner, we ran a whole

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Speaker 6: campaign a few years ago for two years where Will

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Speaker 6: Ferrell was the star of some incredibly fun commercials. It

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 6: was basically, put your phone away and pay attention to

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Speaker 6: your family. And so a lot of the suggestions you're

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00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 6: referring to are very practical and should be done, and

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Speaker 6: it's not shouldn't be lost on you that common sense.

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Speaker 6: As one hundred and fifty million regular users, that's an

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Speaker 6: incredible number and it does mean that parents and young

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00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 6: people are listening. But you're also right at that alone.

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Speaker 6: First of all, that it's really hard because we live

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Speaker 6: in this twenty four to seven addictive, compulsive digital world

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Speaker 6: where your phone is always pinging you with alerts, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: So you have to change habits, and habits change is hard.

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Speaker 6: It's why you need regulation and legislation, and it's why

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 6: you need holding the tech industry accountable and an ongoing

1246
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 6: public awareness effort, including conversations like when you and I

1247
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 6: are having this Saturday, which is this is a discussion

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Speaker 6: that has to be happening every home, every school, and

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01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 6: quite frankly, we need legislative solutions as well. It is

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Speaker 6: a full court press in order to deal with some

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 6: of the downsides of tech, because we all know that

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01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 6: there are also benefits from technology and from social media

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Speaker 6: and common senses is the name says that all. We're

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Speaker 6: very fair in the way we look at this, but

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Speaker 6: these issues are only going to get bigger by the

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Speaker 6: way now with AI. So if you look at the

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01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 6: advent of chat, GPT and bard and some of the

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Speaker 6: other platforms that are now beginning to emerge, it's going

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Speaker 6: to increase some of the impact of social media platforms.

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Speaker 6: AI will and.

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Speaker 2: Well, think about it.

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01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: When your AI knows you so well and it feels

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01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: like it's a friend that you can ask almost anything to,

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: you're going to spend even more time with it, and

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: you're going to want to spend more time. And by

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: the way, this can all be more personalized for who

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: you are and what you're into. I mean, we think

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01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: TikTok serves up videos that we like. Imagine in this AI,

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Speaker 1: you know hones in that's.

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Speaker 6: Right, and you know rich what it will do, particularly

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 6: with vulnerable kids. Look, forty percent of teenager who in

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Speaker 6: the United States report that they feel depressed have felt

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Speaker 6: depressed montret That's just a phenomenal number. Forty percent. I

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Speaker 6: hope that's not true for your kids or my kids

1275
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 6: or folks in the audience, but that means nearly half

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 6: of all children experience some form of depression. And that's

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Speaker 6: that's not even including some of the more serious cases

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 6: of self harmed, suicidal ideation, et cetera. So, look, this

1279
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 6: is a public health crisis, a mental health crisis, and

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01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 6: so we have to take it very seriously, and we

1281
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 6: have to have an ongoing conversation. And by the way,

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01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 6: you've got two kids, rich, you do have to have

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 6: we do, We all do have to have these conversations

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: with our kids and be honest and open and listen

1285
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 6: to what they're experiencing. Also, know that they love platforms

1286
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 6: like YouTube and TikTok and snapchats and scroll through Instagram

1287
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 6: endlessly looking at photos of other people thinking that they

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01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 6: don't look as good or you know, they're not as

1289
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 6: pretty or as smart, et cetera. So this is a

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 6: really complicated issue, but it's very important that the Surgeon

1291
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 6: General came out with this warning, and it's very important

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01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 6: that each and every one of us uses common sense

1293
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 6: takes advantage of some of the practical recommendations, but ultimately

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01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 6: we've got a whole the tech industry accountable, period.

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: All right, Jim, we're going to leave it there, Jim

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Speaker 1: Styre of common Sense Media. Commonsense dot org is the website.

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Speaker 1: And we didn't even get into the fact that we're

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01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: talking about teens here, but a lot of this stuff

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01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: affects adults as well in a big way. So maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll have to have you back on and talk about

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Speaker 1: that hole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, next check me about adults. Rich, that'd be great,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. All right, Jim, appreciate it. Jim Syre

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Speaker 2: of Commonsense dot org. Look it up.

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Speaker 1: It's a great resource, and we really really need to

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Speaker 1: think about this stuff because it is having an impact

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Speaker 1: on our families, our kids, and like I said, even

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Speaker 1: adult It is a real thing. So just think think

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Speaker 1: about even this weekend when you're hanging out with friends

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Speaker 1: and family.

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Speaker 2: Just put the phone away.

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Speaker 1: For a little bit, all right, Rich DeMuro here Rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. More of your calls at triple eight Rich

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Speaker 1: one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four.

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Speaker 2: One zero one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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Speaker 1: technology with you.

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Speaker 2: What a great guest.

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Speaker 1: We just had on to talk about the impact of

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Speaker 1: social media on teens, and I mentioned it's not just teens.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's adults too, Believe me.

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm not sitting here saying that I'm better

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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: or you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Know how to do all this stuff, because I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think we are all in this together when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the implications of this stuff. We just take

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Speaker 1: for granted. We've got our phones. You download the main apps,

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Speaker 1: which is you know, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and we're just

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Speaker 1: humans these companies are they engineer these apps to make

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Speaker 1: us want to use them. You would never make an

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Speaker 1: app that people don't want to use. Why would you

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Speaker 1: do that? You engineer it so that people use it.

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01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,959
Speaker 1: They call it engagement, they call it stickiness. They want

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: you to open up that app as much as humanly possible,

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: even though they sometimes say, you know, we're putting in

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: this and that it's all kind of I mean, who

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: really uses a lot of those.

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: Features on their phone?

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: Like I had the thing where it tells me on

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01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: Instagram have you been on for an hour today, like

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01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: time to you know, stop using this and you press

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01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: okay and you forget about it and that's it.

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01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: TikTok has a thing where it tells teens that they,

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01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, have been on too long and you know,

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: all you have to do is click okay and move

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01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: on with your life. So it's one of these things

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01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: where I don't have the answers. I don't think anyone does.

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01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: And I understand that, you know, regulation and all this

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: stuff is sometimes you know, it might just be what

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01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: we need to get through.

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01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: Some of this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because certainly we are not equipped as

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: humans to do it ourselves. We're up against lots of

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: smart people that are programming these things to make us

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: use them.

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: And it's great.

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: If you've ever been on vacation you're looking for a

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: cool spot or a nice picture place or a good restaurant,

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01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: all these things are incredibly useful. Or if you've connected

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: with someone on Instagram that you used to go to

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Speaker 1: school with, or you know, you get to watch their

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: kids grow up, it's great. But there's also that that

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Speaker 1: other side of it. Let's go to Jan Jan in Upland, California,

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich Jan.

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Speaker 13: How you doing, Hey, Rich, I'm great. Is it okay

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01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 13: to have.

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01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: You on speaker as long as everything sounds okay? So far,

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: so good?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, great, that sounds wonderful. I like to have you

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Speaker 13: on Speakret because my husband's here too, and he understands

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 13: tech stuff just a bit better than I do. So

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Speaker 13: I'm hoping that between us will get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what's going on?

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Speaker 13: Well, it's great to hear you on KFI and your

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 13: well spoken son.

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01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you. He's going to take over

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01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: the show one day, hopefully.

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01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 12: Now I'm just going to He's going to give you

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 12: a run for your money.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm sure these kids are way ahead of where

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: I was at their age. But all right, let's see

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01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: what you got going on. What's happening?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you've got so. I just thought a Microsoft US

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01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 13: prom To tablet. It's the first tablet I've had specifically

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 13: for traveling, so I could download things onto it so

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Speaker 13: that i'd have things to do on the plane when

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Speaker 13: I didn't have Li Fi and such. So I'm having

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 13: difficulty with it though, and it was pretty useless. On

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 13: my last trip. I tried to download a few typical

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 13: you know, brain games and things like that onto it

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01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 13: before my travels, and everything loaded onto my cell phone instead,

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Speaker 13: even though I was downloading it on my tablet.

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01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: And the okay I know, okay, so you were downloading

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01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: items from Google Play to your on your tablet basically, yes, exactly, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well here's what's happening. So that's okay. So what's happening

1398
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: is when you go to if let's say you want

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01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: to download like, you know, candy Crush, right, and it

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: brings you to the Google Play app. It says like

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: apps on Google Play, so that when you press install,

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: that is actually installing on your Do you have an

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: Android phone? I'm guessing yes, okay, so that is actually

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01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: installing on your Android phone. So that is the you know,

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01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: Android lets you install remotely from a website. Now here's

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01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: what I think you need to do on this device

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: is that you need to go into the Windows Store

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: to download what you want. So down at the bottom,

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: type in store and that should bring you to the

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Speaker 1: Windows you know, their version of the App Store, and

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01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: that way you can go and find the apps you

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01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: want there and that will install them on that tablet.

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: Does that make sense. Can you find that?

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, we're up in port right now.

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01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: And so if you if you type in store, that

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01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: is you know, so basically you've got three things going

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: on here. You've got Windows, You've got Android, and you've

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: got iOS. All of them have their own stores for apps.

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: And they call them stores because some apps, you know,

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: even though they're free, they sell stuff. You know, some

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: apps might be paid, some might be free. But that

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01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: is how you get apps to that device. Now, this

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01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: is a surface device, so it's going to run both

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01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, Windows apps, and it's going to run stuff

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: from the Microsoft Store. And so that's where you need

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: to be downloading these apps. And did you find it? Yeah, okay,

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: there you go. So that's where you want to download them,

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: and that's how you're going to get those apps onto

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Speaker 1: that device.

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Speaker 2: I know it must have been. You must have been like, wait,

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: what is happening here?

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm pressing installed and all of a sudden, this thing's

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01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: shown up on my phone.

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01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, I wasn't sure what happened. I got Kindle, I

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 13: bought a book and I can't find the book anywhere.

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: Well you go, now you've got rich on tech. It

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: sounds like you found it so Jan, thanks so much

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: for calling in today. I appreciate it, and hopefully that

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: tablet slash surface is much more useful on your next vacation.

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01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna wrap up our number two of

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: the show. It goes by fast. I can't believe it.

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: More of your calls coming up. We've got triple eight.

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: Rich one on one is the phone number eight eight

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 2: I've got my son Parker in the studio here.

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about final Cut pro on the

1447
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: iPad and just a little bit and whatever else you have.

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: On your mind.

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01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 1: My name is rich Dmiro. You are listening to rich

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01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,480
Speaker 1: hanging out with you on this Memorial Day weekend.

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: Eighty eight.

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01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: Rich one on one is the number eight eight eight

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01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: seven four to two for to one zero one. I've

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: got my son Parker hanging out here in studio.

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 3: Hello.

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 2: I guess it's take.

1458
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: Your kids to work day sometimes in the show, right yeah, yeah,

1459
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: We've got Adam on the board. We've got Kim picking

1460
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: up the phone lines which are just lighting up right now.

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01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: This is usually the third hour of the show is

1462
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: when y'all calm down with the phone calls, and I'm

1463
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to, you know, get through all the

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: things I want to tell you about. And now I've

1465
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: got We've got full phone line. So I guess let's

1466
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: take a call with Wendy in Arizona. Whndy you're on

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01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: with rich.

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01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 8: Hey, Brick, I'm glad you brought your son to work.

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 8: It's important that the kids know what you do all day.

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 8: I think they think we're just out having fun.

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01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: They also think money grows on trees, right, this is true.

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01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 8: I'm eighty two years old, very proud, great great grandmother

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 8: and my grandchildren have kept me up to speed on

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01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 8: Techi stock, but they re lee have moved further away

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01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 8: with jobs and work different schedules. So I need to

1476
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 8: ask you a question about my iPhone. I'm absolutely hooked

1477
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 8: on KFI radio. Listened to it for years in California

1478
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 8: and was thrilled to find that through her heart radio

1479
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 8: I could get it here in Arizona. I love to

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01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 8: hear that my phone overnight because I'm handicapped and I

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 8: need it right next to my bed. Promised my daughter

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01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 8: I would do that smart and I charge it also

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01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 8: while it's beside my bed, and occasionally I cannot get

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01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 8: iHeartRadio because of Internet problems on my echo, so I

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 8: listened to it on my phone. Sure, is that hurting

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01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 8: my phone that I'm charging it and listening to iHeartRadio

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 8: all night?

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think, you know, maybe in

1489
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: the past it might be putting a little bit more.

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: Are you Is it all night long for like eight hours?

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 8: And oh yeah, Usually I plug it in when I

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01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 8: go to sleep, charge it and if I can't get

1493
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 8: iHeartRadio on the internet, and we often have Internet problems

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 8: off and on.

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: Why are you having internet problems? Oh, I'm curious.

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 8: Well, because it's a rural area with less than perfect

1497
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 8: service and it's getting better, okay, but it's not there yet.

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: How long have you had the iPhone?

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Speaker 8: I've had the iPhone about three years. It's a se twenty.

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: And you've been doing this for a while with the phone?

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01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, okay, So I've been doing it whenever I

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01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 8: either lose internet service or if I travel and don't

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01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 8: have internet service. Here's we're in a motel somewhere.

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01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: Here's what I want you to check. Are you on

1505
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: the phone right now, I am. Okay, So you're gonna

1506
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: have to wait till we get off the phone. But

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01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: if you go into these settings, okay, you go into

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01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: settings and then you click battery and then it says

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: battery health and charging, and it will tell you the

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: maximum capacity of your battery. Now, mine is at ninety

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: six percent. I've had this phone since the day it

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: came out. This is only a year old, so it's

1513
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: gone down about four percent in the maximum capacity of

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: the battery. You can check in there and see what

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: your battery's at, and you can see if it's you know,

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01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: if it's at a good percentage, you know, ninety percent.

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's telling you. When this battery came from

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: the factory, it was at one hundred percent capacity. Like,

1519
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: this battery is perfect. And as you use it, the battery,

1520
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: of course wears down a little bit. And some things

1521
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: will cause it to wear down more than others, like

1522
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: maybe using it in really hot temperature, maybe using like

1523
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: not a very good charging cable or something. You know,

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: it just depends. But I will tell you I am

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: a power power power user. I run my phone into

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: the ground. I charge it as much as humanly possible.

1527
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: I charge it every night. It is always going and

1528
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: I've gone down four percent in about, you know, almost

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01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: a year. So it just goes to show that, yes,

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: the things you do on your phone absolutely have an

1531
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: impact on the battery health. But I think the fact

1532
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: that you can look in there and see kind of

1533
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: like what's happening with your battery, that can give you

1534
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: a better idea. So what I would do for the

1535
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 1: next six months write down the number that you're at today,

1536
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: and then in six months, check the number that you

1537
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: have there in the maximum capacity, and if it's going

1538
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: down by a lot, lot lot like ten percent twenty percent,

1539
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: which I don't think it will be, then you know,

1540
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: maybe you rethink what you're doing here, but I think

1541
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: that you're going to be just fine. I've used phones

1542
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: over the years, and realistically, you know, I think it

1543
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: more comes down to the way that you run the

1544
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: battery in the heat. That might have more of an

1545
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: impact on it than anything else. But I think that

1546
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: listening to the streaming what's happening is your phone is

1547
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: basically the battery is trickle charging while it's depleting a

1548
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: little bit, So it's just kind of always charging and

1549
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: battery tech has gotten a lot better where it's not

1550
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: like it used to be where it's super impacted by

1551
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: memory and all this stuff. So I think think you're

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01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: doing okay, Wendy. Thanks for listening all day long. Appreciate it,

1553
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: and thanks for listening to me especially. And I'm glad

1554
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: that your kids know that you're keeping your phone bedside

1555
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: so that if you ever need them, you can get

1556
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: in touch with them easily. So thanks for calling today, Wendy.

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01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. All right, Parker, you're here. We're going to

1558
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: talk about Final Cut Pro on the iPad. So Final

1559
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Cut Pro is a program that I use pretty much,

1560
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: I think, every day of my life now for fifteen years.

1561
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: I've used this since I started at CNET. I remember

1562
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: they said you got to learn how to use Final

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: Cut and I said what They said, Yeah, you're going

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: to be editing videos.

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01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: I said, all right, So they taught me a little

1566
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 2: bit of how to use it.

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: It was very basic, but I've learned over the years

1568
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: and this thing has become my everything. I use this

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01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: program every day. It's why I typically use a Mac

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01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: computer and it is my program of choice for editing

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: on a physical computer. Now they just came out with

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Speaker 1: Final Cut Pro for iPad. It is five dollars a

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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: month or fifty dollars for the year, which is a

1574
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: little bit controversial because not everyone likes to pay for

1575
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: something Like I paid for my Final Cut one time.

1576
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: It was three hundred dollars many many years ago and

1577
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: it still works now. Final Cut on the iPad is

1578
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: really cool for a couple of reasons. Number one, you

1579
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: can use a touch interface, so you can use just

1580
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: your fingers to do this, or you can use the

1581
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: Apple pencil, which which is really fun. It is, yeah,

1582
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: And the other cool thing is that you can write

1583
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: on the screen and make graphics.

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Speaker 4: That is that's one of the best parts. I think,

1585
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 4: like it's basically.

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: Kind of like animating.

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 4: You can't really animate on there, but like if you're

1588
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 4: like I kind of want something to be like animating,

1589
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 4: then that's the way to go.

1590
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: And it's super easy because you're just writing. Okay, so

1591
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: you've been using this on the iPad pro. And the

1592
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: other caveat is that you have to have an iPad

1593
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: with an M one processor. This is the Apple's, you know,

1594
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: their own chip, and so they have the M one

1595
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: and the M two and there's some differences if you

1596
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: have them. There's some features you may not be able

1597
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: to use. If you have the M two, obviously you

1598
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 1: can use them all. So park what's your your impression

1599
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: of this? Because I think it's quite incredible.

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: I think it's incredible too.

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: I mean, like it's insane if you think about it,

1602
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: like an insane editing software on an iPad.

1603
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 3: That's pretty amazing.

1604
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 4: When I first saw my dad maybe editing on this,

1605
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, never, I mean maybe one

1606
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 4: day I'll learn this, Like it looks hard, maybe I

1607
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 4: take some classes or like literally I just spend hours

1608
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 4: in my dad working. But since it like I heard

1609
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 4: him talk about it actually on the radio about this

1610
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 4: that I tried it.

1611
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I tried it.

1612
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: So what Parker will do is he will he will

1613
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: ask me when I come home from an event, He'll say, hey, Dad,

1614
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: can you air drop me the video files from that event?

1615
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: And I will air drop him and he will make

1616
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: his own little edit of that program. And you did

1617
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: this for the display thing that I went to, and

1618
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: I was very impressed with what you were able to do.

1619
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: See how easy was it to learn how to use this?

1620
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 3: I actually thought it wasn't super hard.

1621
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 4: Some of the things, though, I feel like are harder

1622
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 4: than others, which I think there's gonna have to be,

1623
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 4: Like maybe later on they'll be like videos of how

1624
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 4: to use it. Like right now it's not a lot

1625
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 4: because it's brand new, but I think it should be

1626
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 4: more noticeable for some things than others.

1627
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: Like some things you were able to pick up very easily.

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, like uh, one of them are just like drag

1629
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 4: and drop the uh the videos and uh stuff, and

1630
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: but some hard things were like split the clip.

1631
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: And all that stuff that I would say that's the

1632
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: trickiest because it's the trickiest. I would say splitting the

1633
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: clip is probably the most common way of editing on

1634
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:44,879
Speaker 1: the desktop.

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01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: You just you can use like the blade tool like

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01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 2: b or whatever.

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01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I did actually because uh, i've the

1638
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 4: Apple keyboard, and I actually learned that if you press

1639
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 4: command be at once it ain't like while holding the clip,

1640
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 4: it will actually split it.

1641
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: And then that's how you do it.

1642
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 4: But I actually want to know how to do it

1643
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,919
Speaker 4: without the keyboard.

1644
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: Some people don't know it's in the lower right hand corner.

1645
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: I discovered it. So when you tap a clip. It's

1646
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: in the lower right hand, but.

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01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: You needble yes, and.

1648
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: I think they're going to do that.

1649
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: So I think they're going to figure out how to

1650
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: make that more more visible because it's one of the

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: things that I kept cutting the entire clip, and so

1652
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: I just get rid of it. It felt like the

1653
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: way to do it. But overall, I will say it's

1654
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: it's really good. It's for out of the gate. I

1655
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: think for someone who is coming up in the industry,

1656
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: like a you know, like my kid here that is

1657
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: just getting started with editing. It has become now where

1658
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: the iPad finally is nearly a replacement for a desktop

1659
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 1: computer that is more versatile because you have the beauty

1660
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: of an iPad and everything that you could do on

1661
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: a computer.

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 4: Basically, I would say, if you want to get rid

1663
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 4: of your laptop and uh get rid like yeah, get

1664
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 4: rid of your laptop, then I would say you'd have

1665
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: to probably go with the Apple keyboard with it because

1666
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 4: it's like a lot easier. But I think the Apple

1667
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 4: pencil still has most of the features.

1668
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Apple pencil being able to pencil is.

1669
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: So I think it's worth it for sure.

1670
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like you, so you'd say Apple pencil. So

1671
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: if you're doing final cut pro editing on the iPad,

1672
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: you've got to get the Apple pencil.

1673
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 4: And I agree, I don't think you you don't need to.

1674
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: It's not acquired.

1675
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 4: I would say it is worth it. It's worth the.

1676
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tweeted this yesterday.

1677
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: I said I felt like Picasso when I was editing

1678
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: on this thing yesterday because it's the combination of just

1679
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: holding this flat device in your lap. You're editing, but

1680
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: you're using your hand on the screen to select stuff,

1681
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: and then I'm using the pencil on the other hand.

1682
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: It felt so easy and fluid and natural that I

1683
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: really think that Apple did a really incredible job of

1684
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: getting this into more hands. And I think more people

1685
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: are just going to start editing on the iPad and

1686
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: we're going to have the whole a whole new generation

1687
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 1: of Well, of course it's going to be like TikTokers

1688
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: and YouTubers, but maybe the next directors of like movies

1689
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.

1690
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be awesome.

1691
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 4: It's also just simple and easy to learn, so if

1692
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 4: you want to learn it, I would go on ahead

1693
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 4: and try.

1694
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: So all right, Well, thank you Parker for giving your

1695
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: your and Parker and I usually do these little edit

1696
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: offs where he'll edit the same thing that I edit,

1697
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: and then we compare notes and we'll see who I.

1698
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: Time did that in a car, like a really long

1699
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: car drive.

1700
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 3: We did that for fun.

1701
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's fun. So I'd recommend if you can

1702
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 4: try it out.

1703
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, final cut pro on the iPad. Thanks for

1704
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: joining me today, Parker, appreciate it. We're gonna still stick

1705
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: around for the rest of the show. Coming up, we're

1706
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: going to talk I've got so many things talk about.

1707
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this Peloton price increase, but

1708
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: they put a good spin on it, so they're making

1709
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: you feel like you're getting more. I've got a website

1710
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: that you can check if you're getting scammed. We're going

1711
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: to talk about Max, the new streaming service, and I've

1712
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: got a guest and plus your calls. It's all happening

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Speaker 1: here rich On Tech, Triple eight, rich one on one.

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01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology. Did you know that you

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Speaker 1: can get this show as a podcast. Just go to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot tv, click the podcast icon and

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01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,040
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Speaker 1: KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. I cover a whole

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Speaker 1: and look for the as seen on TV. All Right,

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01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to get through. So

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01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: first off, let's see what do we want to start

1728
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: with here. Let's do Max because this is an easy one.

1729
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: So HBO Max became Max and it now is the

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01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: home of all kinds of stuff. So they launched this

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01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: week thirty five thousand hours of content, more than twice

1732
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: that of HBO Max for the same price. Okay, all

1733
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: these companies like to put a little spin on things.

1734
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: They say it's the same price, but if you want

1735
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: the same features, you have to pay a little bit more.

1736
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a second. So what do you

1737
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: get with Max? You get HBO, you get Max Originals,

1738
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: which is all their new stuff. Then you get Warner

1739
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: Brothers Films, DC Universe, Harry Potter, HGTV, Food Network, Discovery Channel,

1740
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: TLC ID and more because Warner Brothers, I don't know

1741
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: if they merged or bought Discovery, whatever it is. It's

1742
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: very complicated, but it's all now like one company. So

1743
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, Discovery, HBO Max all the same stuff.

1744
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: And the new app is called Max.

1745
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 1: If you have access to HBO Max, you have access

1746
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: to Max. So go on your device, whether it's Apple, TV, fireTV, Roku,

1747
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: iPhone and download the Max app. You can log in

1748
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: with your HBO Max credentials. I know this all sounds

1749
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: so wild, but this is what it is. There's also

1750
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: better kids stuff on here, so it has like a

1751
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: default kids profile, and there's more four K stuff so

1752
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: and this is where it gets a little t So

1753
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more four K content and

1754
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: there's gonna be an average of forty new titles every month,

1755
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: which is wild.

1756
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: Now here's the pricing.

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01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: Max with ADS is nine ninety nine a month or

1758
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks a year, and that will give you

1759
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: no offline downloads, so if you travel, that's a no go.

1760
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: Mad Ax Max AD free is sixteen dollars a month

1761
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: or one hundred and fifty dollars a year. That will

1762
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: give you thirty offline downloads and HD quality now if

1763
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: you want. And this is where it gets where they said, oh,

1764
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: we're giving you, you know, the same for the same price.

1765
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: Not really.

1766
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: So MAX Ultimate AD Free is twenty dollars a month

1767
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: or two hundred dollars a year, and that will give

1768
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: you four K resolution, one hundred download downloads, offline downloads,

1769
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: and Dolby at moosts. So basically, if you are paying

1770
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: sixteen dollars a month before and you want four K

1771
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: in the future, you're gonna have to pay twenty dollars

1772
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: because existing HBO Max subscribers will have access to MAX

1773
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: at the same price, but only for about well same

1774
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: features for six months. So if you have four K

1775
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: right now, like I do on my plan, I'm only

1776
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: going to get to keep that for six more months,

1777
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: so well, I say, at least six months. So they

1778
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: haven't really said how they're going to change, But the

1779
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: bottom line is we know how these tech companies do it.

1780
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: They launch something and then when people forget about it,

1781
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: they slowly change things and of course make it a

1782
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: little bit more expensive. So that's that speaking a more

1783
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:32,879
Speaker 1: expensive peloton. Peloton put a nice spin on their increase

1784
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: of prices. So they've relaunched their app with a free level. Okay,

1785
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: that's great, So you can take free classes on their app.

1786
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: It's limited, but it's free and that's nice, and that's

1787
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: the headline that they got a lot of people to

1788
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: talk about. And it's great, you know, but there's a

1789
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: lot of free fitness options out there, and I think

1790
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: Peloton has always sort of been linked to the device

1791
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: or like myself, I use a third party bike, but

1792
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I use the Peloton app. So for people like me,

1793
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: the price is actually doubling. So it used to be

1794
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: twelve ninety nine a month, now it's going to be

1795
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: twenty four dollars a month because the twelve ninety nine

1796
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: no longer includes unlimited hardware based classes.

1797
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

1798
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: The cycling classes, the treadmill classes, the rowing classes, you

1799
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: only get three of those now used to be unlimited

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01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: for twelve ninety nine. Now you only get three a month.

1801
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: And they know that that's their bread and butter, even

1802
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: though in this entire release they talk about how you know,

1803
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: these are the most popular things that people do.

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01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: So if you have the Peloton app, if you have

1806
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: a Peloton bike, nothing's really changing. Like, if you pay

1807
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: that forty five dollars a month or whatever it is,

1808
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: you're fine. But if you're using the app just for

1809
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: the classes and you use like a treadmill or a

1810
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: different bike, you're gonna have to pay twenty four dollars

1811
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: a month if you want to continue with unlimited classes.

1812
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: This goes into effect on Tuesday, December fifth, so you

1813
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: have some time. But look, I get it. It's it's

1814
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: twenty four bucks a month for all these classes, and

1815
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: Peloton has very very good classes. But still you saw

1816
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: the spin and you know, they said, hey, we got

1817
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: a free tier, but they kind of left out the

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01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: fact that their best customers like myself are now going

1819
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: to be paying double if they want to continue with

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01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 1: what they have.

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01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 2: So there you go all these companies.

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01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of price increases we have seen

1823
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: on these streaming apps has just been incredible. I think

1824
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: that every single streaming app in the past year and

1825
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: a half has gotten a price increase or some sort

1826
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: of change where you have to make a decision do

1827
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: I want to continue with this price or do I

1828
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: want to get the feature as I was getting before

1829
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: and pay a little bit of a higher price.

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01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: All right.

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01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we've got John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report.

1832
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: He's going to join me to talk about the vin

1833
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: Fast EV and we're going to get his take on

1834
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: the whole new Ford and Tesla deal. Rich tamiro here,

1835
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Rich on Tech More show coming up next. Welcome back

1836
01:27:54,920 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: to Rich on Tech Rich DeMuro here talking technology and

1837
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: evs are a big part of the tech world right now.

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01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: And one of the companies that's looking to make a

1839
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: stake is called vin Fast. And also so we've got

1840
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: those cars now on the roads, and we've also got

1841
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: this deal this week with Ford and Tesla, two unlikely

1842
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 1: characters coming together. So starting early next year, Ford EV

1843
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 1: customers will have access to more than twelve thousand Tesla

1844
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: superchargers in the US and Canada.

1845
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: This is a huge, huge deal. So to talk about this.

1846
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: News and more, make sure I get the right button here,

1847
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: we've got John Faulkner from Clean Fleet Report. John, thanks

1848
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: for being on the show again. Welcome, Hello, Hello, Rich,

1849
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: with you you too. All right, let's start you want

1850
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: to where do you want to start? You want to

1851
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: start with your review of the vin Fast.

1852
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 9: Or what Yeah, let's get that one out of the

1853
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 9: way out of the way.

1854
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh that doesn't that doesn't sound promising. So let me

1855
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: just set this up. So we were at the my

1856
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: son is here with us. Remember we my son was

1857
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: excited about the vin Fast. We saw it at the

1858
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 1: mall in Santa Monica, right huh.

1859
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 4: And I mean the design looked good, but I mean

1860
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 4: it's hard to get a car out there.

1861
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard.

1862
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: So this is a Vietnamese company. Tell me about the

1863
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: vin Fast, John Okay.

1864
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 9: Vin Fast was formed only in twenty seventeen by its

1865
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 9: parent company, vin Group, which is Vietnam's largest company. Twenty nineteen,

1866
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 9: they started with gasoline powered cars in their own country.

1867
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 9: Twenty twenty one, they introduced an electric bus. In twenty

1868
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 9: twenty one, they had three electric vehicles that they introduced

1869
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 9: but didn't release. They just announced them then at CES

1870
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty two. Vin Fast was there. In the

1871
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 9: fall of twenty twenty two, their first models were shipped

1872
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 9: to America and opened their retail stores and mall like

1873
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 9: you experienced. They have twenty eight United States and ten

1874
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 9: in Canada, and all the ones the United States are

1875
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 9: in tel Alifornia.

1876
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: Oh.

1877
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 9: Then, and then in twenty twenty two, they signed an

1878
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 9: agreement to open a manufacturing plant in North Carolina, with

1879
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 9: production to begin with the capacity of one hundred fifty thousand

1880
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 9: vehicles in twenty twenty five. And then they delivered their

1881
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 9: first cars for people to drive home in early this year.

1882
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 9: So what you can see is going from never having

1883
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 9: built an automobile of any type in twenty seventeen and

1884
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three, this is this is unheard of.

1885
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh wait, this company, this Vin Group, they weren't oh wow, okay,

1886
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: focuses on real estate, retail and services and healthcare. Right,

1887
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: oh wow, So they really shifted. Okay, so they saw

1888
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: some opportunity. Here's what I'm thinking.

1889
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so let me go ahead and just tell

1890
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 9: the one what we did. In early May, then Fast

1891
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 9: tilled their first ever drive opportunity.

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01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 11: For the MOTED media.

1893
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 9: After a product briefing by Kievan Fast staff, which included

1894
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 9: their CEO. We were turned loose and we drove to

1895
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 9: ignore the San Diego County. So the vehicles that we

1896
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 9: were driving were the were the then Fast VF eight

1897
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 9: City and this is their this is their lowest range

1898
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 9: mid size suv. And so I had a driving partner

1899
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 9: with me, and we took off and we we immediately

1900
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 9: noticed that there were things about the vehicle that were

1901
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 9: not up to par or equal with other evs that

1902
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 9: we have driven by other brands. And and so we

1903
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 9: got back after our drive, we sat down with the

1904
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 9: DEAT executives and we told them the things that we noticed.

1905
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,959
Speaker 9: And I don't think anything we told them was surprising.

1906
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 9: They'd probably known this already. And and so the the

1907
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 9: the bottom line for this thing is that in my opinion,

1908
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 9: that they are rushing into the north North American market

1909
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 9: and if the v fate that we drove the media,

1910
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 9: just not myself or my partner, but all the journalists

1911
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 9: there that we drove is what they're selling to people.

1912
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 9: People are not going to be buying it. And the

1913
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 9: reason is pretty understandable. They're only launching this vehicle in California,

1914
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 9: and they say they want to be here because the

1915
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 9: charging system is the most robust in the whole country,

1916
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 9: and people understand electric vehicles well, they do, but that

1917
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 9: cuts both ways. Californians are EV savvy and they are

1918
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 9: going to do many, many hours of research online before

1919
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 9: and do wort of mouth before they will actually go

1920
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 9: out and buy an EV and once they test drive

1921
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 9: any of the more established evs that compete against the

1922
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 9: v fate, they will they will probably not be buying it,

1923
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 9: don't They're going to wait on that vehicle. And there

1924
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 9: are and there are some challenges them. It has a

1925
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 9: relatively low driving range two hundred and seven.

1926
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Miles maximum oh wow. Yeah.

1927
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the pricing is including the twelve hundred dollars

1928
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 9: delivery fee. The base one is fifty thy two hundred

1929
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 9: and the plus model of fifty seven to two hundred.

1930
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 9: The problem with that is that they don't qualify for

1931
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 9: any federal or California JAST rebates of credits. So therefore

1932
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 9: they are they're going against they're going against cars that

1933
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 9: are getting one hundred miles or more range they are

1934
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 9: getting they're getting vehicles that are well established. Yeah, and

1935
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 9: so they're offering the most robust warranty ten years, one

1936
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 9: hundred and ten thousand miles. The question, though, is, as

1937
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 9: a new company from a country that has no history

1938
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 9: of building automobiles, will they be around in ten years?

1939
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 7: Right?

1940
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 2: So will they be there to support it?

1941
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1942
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 9: Exactly.

1943
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like this is one of

1944
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 1: the let's wait and see. And here's what's happened in

1945
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Speaker 1: the EV world. And you know this is that it

1946
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: started out, you know, you had Tesla, they kind of

1947
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: set the standard, and then now we've seen in the

1948
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: past couple of years so many great options and they

1949
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Speaker 1: just continue to get better. So it is it continues

1950
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Speaker 1: to get more and more competitive and tougher to really,

1951
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: like you're saying, cut corners here and deliver a product

1952
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: that is like, Okay, it's got two hundred miles range,

1953
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: which is fine if you're just commuting, big deal, but

1954
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, the price is a little bit high, the

1955
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: features might not be up to speed. So I think

1956
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: when it comes to vin Fast, from what I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: from you is we kind of wait and see on

1958
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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I don't want people to not take a

1960
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Speaker 9: test drive in it. I want them to take a

1961
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 9: test drive. But these are going to be people that

1962
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 9: are probably already driven the leaders that compete against this.

1963
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Speaker 9: So the model why all three from the Hyundai group,

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Speaker 9: the Ford, Moche, you just all these vehicles, is what's

1965
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 9: going to sell against this on the whole BMW, the

1966
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 9: Audis and they're gonna they're going to look at this

1967
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 9: and say, you know something, I don't know anything about

1968
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Speaker 9: this company. I don't you know, they have no warranty industry,

1969
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 9: they have no reliability history. Maybe I'll wait until the

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Speaker 9: next version comes. Yeah, but yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got we got that the way.

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Speaker 1: We only have a couple minutes here, So I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to get into this news with Ford

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Speaker 1: and Tesla, because this is pretty wild. Ford said they

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Speaker 1: reached a deal with Tesla to basically allow their customers

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Speaker 1: to access the superchargers starting in spring twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and they are going to I guess give adapters to

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Speaker 1: users of the F one fifty, the Mustang Mochi, the

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Speaker 1: E Transit.

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Speaker 2: But then later in twenty twenty five, they're going to.

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Speaker 1: Equip their evs with the port that I guess Tesla

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Speaker 1: superchargers just work with. So this is a pretty big

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Speaker 1: step and I think it has very broad implications for

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Speaker 1: the EV industry, Like basically we're establishing Tesla supercharging network

1985
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Speaker 1: is sort of the kind of the almost like the

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Speaker 1: standard now and there's some pros and cons of that.

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Speaker 2: So give me your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 9: Well, on Thursday of this week, when this news broke.

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Speaker 9: It was you're right, you took my you took my

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Speaker 9: words right on the mouth. This is huge. This is

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Speaker 9: this is the This is not only the accepting of Tesla,

1992
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 9: which when they came out to when they first announced

1993
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 9: many many years ago, you know, well less than a

1994
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 9: decade ago, that they were coming out with vehicles. All

1995
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Speaker 9: the grandiose plans and all the all the predictions and

1996
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 9: all the all the vehicles are going to have they

1997
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 9: didn't happen, so people didn't take them seriously. Well, now

1998
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 9: Tesla has taken extremely seriously with them with the Model

1999
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 9: Y being the most successful, the highest selling vehicle in

2000
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 9: the world in this category. I'm talking about any any vehicle, truck, car, anything,

2001
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 9: it's the number one and in the first quarter of

2002
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 9: this year, so they it's and it's just amazing. So

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Speaker 9: what this is going to do for Ford because Ford

2004
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 9: is on a fast track just like our General Motors, Atlantis, ALII, Volkswagen,

2005
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 9: the Hundai Group, all of them, they're on this track

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01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 9: that they're they're just going to be releasing vehicle evs

2007
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 9: like you just can't believe. And of course with the

2008
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Speaker 9: with the twenty thirty five mandate, coming up in California,

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01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 9: that no new cars could be sold that aren't that

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Speaker 9: aren't zero mission vehicles. You know, that's that's twelve years

2011
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 9: from now, eleven years from now. I mean, these companies,

2012
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 9: they they got to get their act together. And what

2013
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 9: Ford realized was, Hey, we're going to get in bed

2014
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 9: with these guys. Ford currently has something called blue Oval.

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Speaker 2: This this is gonna sell.

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Speaker 1: This is going to sell a lot of cars, and

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01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: it's it's and it puts pressure on the other manufacturers

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01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: to do the same thing, which I think, if you,

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01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, depending on how you look at it, is

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01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: a little scary because now we're letting one company kind of,

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01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: you know, rule this entire world of charging for evs,

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Speaker 1: and like you just said, the market continues to grow

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01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: for these things, and so I think that there's some

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Speaker 1: some big implications here.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: We got to end it there, because we've talked so much.

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Speaker 1: Tell folks how they can read all the stuff that

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01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: you do, all these great road tests.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Our our website is clean fleet report dot com.

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01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 9: And then when you get there, you can either read

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01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 9: the featured stories on the top, or you can the

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01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 9: search bar and type in any any mucle you want

2033
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 9: and you can find a review and yeah, so it

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01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 9: is you and I've been on these programs together and

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 9: it's uh, it's this is the most exciting time the

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Speaker 9: automotive industry never been anything like.

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Speaker 2: It's so great.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like, I mean for myself, like looking

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01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: at forward now, you know, because of this, I feel

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01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: like I would give them a look for this car

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01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: and other cars that are going with this platform because

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01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: the ability to drive anywhere in charge is what the

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01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: supercharger network brings to the table. But it's also scary because,

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01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, when when companies get too

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01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: much power, sometimes the prices, you know, they follow. So

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna leave it there, John, thanks so

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01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: much for joining me today.

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01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'll see you soon, Okay, bye, all right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up end of the show. I can't believe it.

2050
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: It is your favorite segment. It's the feedback segment. It's

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01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: the time when I will read all of this stuff

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01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: that you send me.

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 2: You hear it.

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01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: It's all right here rich On tech Rich Demiro coming

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01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 1: back at you in just a bit.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a rich On tech Rich Demiro here

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01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: hanging out with you, talking technology, and closing out the

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01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: show with what has become one of your favorite segments,

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Speaker 1: the Feedback. Before I get to the feedback, I've got

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01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: ton this week, I want to just tell you about

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Speaker 1: this Better Business Bureau website that I did a story

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Speaker 1: on and it's very, very helpful. It's called the Scam

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Speaker 1: Tracker BBB dot org slash scam Tracker, and I will

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Speaker 1: put this up on my website rich on tech dot

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Speaker 1: tv in the show notes. But if you think you're

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Speaker 1: getting scammed, or if a family member is asking you

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Speaker 1: about a scam, go to this website and just type

2069
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: in a keyword about what's happening to you, and I

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01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: guarantee you you will find some sort of person that

2071
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 1: has reported this somewhere in the US. We talked to

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Speaker 1: a woman who was trying to adopt a kitten and

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Speaker 1: she ended up getting scammed out of about fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: And if she literally would have typed in the word

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01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: kitten into this website, she would have read accounts from

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01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 1: all over the US about the same exact scam that

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Speaker 1: got her. And basically I kept promising her the cat

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Speaker 1: and they just kept asking for more money, and it

2079
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Speaker 1: turned out to be.

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Speaker 2: She didn't adopt.

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Speaker 1: She was trying to go through like a breeder, which

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01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: is a whole other can of worms. But anyway, BBB

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01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:05,440
Speaker 1: dot org, slash scam Tracker, Bookmarket, it's a really helpful site.

2084
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 2: And I think it can really really help people.

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01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the feedback segment, Parker.

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01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 2: You want to read the first one?

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01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will.

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01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 4: So this is from Melinda and she said, there's a

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Speaker 4: person on Instagram who's offering me thirty thousand dollars on

2090
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,759
Speaker 4: his Instagram account and Instagram account says he's a Powerball

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01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 4: winner and his purpose is to give donations to people.

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01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 3: Could this you legit? How can I check?

2093
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:38,759
Speaker 4: And the person's account was Dave underscored, Johnson underscored giveaway

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01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 4: and plus some other numbers.

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01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: So the guys, the guy's account on Instagram is Powerball

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01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Winner want the giveaway. Yeah, that sounds like a scam

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01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,759
Speaker 1: to me. So I hope you stay steer clear of that, Melinda,

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01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: because that is a that is one hundred percent scam.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the scam is.

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01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you have to send him something and then

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01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: he'll send you some money or well purport to send

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01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: you money, but that's anyone with uh what was his

2103
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: name again, what was the user name?

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01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 4: It was Dave underscored, Johnson underscored, giveaway and plus some numbers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's definitely. Yeah. Let's say if I had

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01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 2: an that would be an do not do not go

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 3: Any says giveaway and yeah, that's that's a scam.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Fred says, Hey, Rich, if you want to record anything

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01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: on Windows ten or eleven, all you have to do

2112
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 1: is press the Windows key plus all plus R. This

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01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 1: will record anything on the screen, including sound. This was

2114
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: in response to someone that called in about recording programming

2115
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: on like Amazon Prime and YouTube. And I tried this

2116
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: on my Windows and I could not get it to

2117
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: record the sound. And I'm not sure what I was

2118
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: doing wrong, but I have a feeling that sound may

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01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 1: not be as easy to record. I know on the

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01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: Mac it's a separate program that you need to record

2121
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 1: the sound. So but Fred, that's a that's a great

2122
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: way to record stuff on the screen that may not

2123
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: include sound. Again, Windows key all plus R is a

2124
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 1: good one. Stu chimed in about our conversation regarding AM radio.

2125
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,759
Speaker 1: We were talking about how Ford was gonna ditch AM

2126
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: radio in their cars and a lot of people, a

2127
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about that, and Stu chimed in.

2128
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 1: By the way, Ford had a change of heart and

2129
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: they ended up putting the AM back in it. But

2130
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Stu said, AM radio died along with civilized talk radio.

2131
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 1: NPR was on FM podcast. Put a stake in it.

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Speaker 1: No loss, Oh, Stu, as someone who's new to AM

2133
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: radio on the radio, you really stabbed me where it hurts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, Parker up next, what's your next one?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 4: So our next one is Ron And he said, Hey, Rich,

2137
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 4: this is Ron from Arizona.

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01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 3: I called you.

2139
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 4: I called you show on May thirteenth asking about a

2140
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 4: mesh why fight system for our thirteen thousand square foot church.

2141
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 3: I went with the EUO Pro six e. Install Installation

2142
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 3: was super easy. The system works great. Wi Fi is

2143
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:15,879
Speaker 3: strong throughout the entire building.

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Speaker 4: Our only issues so far as getting are printer connected.

2145
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 4: It worked fine with our old connection. We're having multiple

2146
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 4: problems with the new system. Oh well, technology, thank you

2147
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 4: so much for your help.

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Speaker 2: I remember this call.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to get the Wi Fi in the

2150
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 1: church and I recommended some systems, so I'm glad so

2151
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: we went with the consumer system, the EURO Pro. He's

2152
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 1: having trouble with the printer. I think the problem with

2153
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 1: the printer is that it's probably an older printer that

2154
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 1: uses the two point four gigahertz network.

2155
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 2: There is a.

2156
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,759
Speaker 1: Setting in the EURO settings that if you're having trouble

2157
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: connecting a device, go into the troubleshooting section of the

2158
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: app and it will actually switch your network over to

2159
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: just two point four gigaherts for ten minutes to help

2160
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: you connect some of the those old gadgets that will

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Speaker 1: then work with the network. But I'm glad to hear

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Speaker 1: that everything went well. It's is not always good when

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Speaker 1: you hear some good feedback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It is always nice like you.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna do some mean feedback from Oliver. Oliver

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Speaker 1: wrote in Good Afternoon, stop in capitals with the what's

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Speaker 1: going on? You sound like a valley girl. It dumbs

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Speaker 1: you down. You're an adult now and you really don't

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Speaker 1: need a catchphrase. And as Colombo says, one more thing,

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Speaker 1: you are trying too hard to be all things to

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Speaker 1: all people. Historically that does not work. Be careful and

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Speaker 1: don't jump the shark too soon.

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Speaker 2: Oliver.

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Speaker 1: Well, Oliver, you know what, if you've been listening to

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Speaker 1: my podcast, I've been saying what's going on for about

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Speaker 1: five years, so I don't think I'm gonna stop just yet.

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Speaker 1: But I do appreciate the feedback, and you know I'm

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Speaker 1: open to back.

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Speaker 3: Is always nice.

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Speaker 1: But all right, Park, we're gonna have to say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being on the show today. By the way,

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Speaker 1: one more piece of feedback. We'll end it on a

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Speaker 1: nice note. Ruth said, I'm the one that had the

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Speaker 1: visa card hacked three times in a month.

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Speaker 2: I followed your advice.

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Speaker 1: I put on Apple Pay and I got an Apple

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Speaker 1: card and so far, so good. And Ruth, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening to the show and following the

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Speaker 1: I said, used tap to pay when you can, stop

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Speaker 1: using your credit card or your debit card whatever she

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Speaker 1: was using.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a debit card online.

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Speaker 1: Stop putting that card number in use service whenever you

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Speaker 1: can that will mask your card number, whether that's Tap

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Speaker 1: to pay or service like Privacy or even a credit

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Speaker 1: card will protect you a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm Richard Simiro.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to the show that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for this week. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on social media at rich on Tech. There are so

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Speaker 1: many ways you can spend your time. I do appreciate

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Speaker 1: you spending it with me. Thanks to everyone who makes

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Speaker 1: this show possible. Bi, we'll talk to you real soon.

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Speaker 3: Say goodbye bye, Thank you all for listening. Have a

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Speaker 3: nice day. Bye.