1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot com. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 3: Wanna throw by Kyler Murray facing pressure. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Connor to the five and end of the end zone 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: for the touchdown. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Pacificofice dot com. Problem solved, Harrison dies for the en zone, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Touchdown, Tyler Murray that defender is in multiple pieces. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there? 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: All right. 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: What's the acronym TBH? 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: Right? 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: To be honest, that's what kids use on text all 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: the time, at least my fifteen year old does, to 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: be honest. This is about as close as uh I'll 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: ever get to covering the combine. Connecting via uplink to 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Darren Urban and Danny Sirek, a couple of colleagues covering 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL Scouting Combine from Indianapolis, and uh, 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: at least maybe just maybe we gonna take solace in 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: the weather, which, come on, I didn't even look, but 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm guessing not nearly what we're getting here in Arizona, 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: right D. 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well actually I just took that, he said, D. 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: It could be either one of us. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: That's true. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually prefer this weather a little bit more 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: than ninety degrees or whatever you're getting, believe it or not. 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 4: I know everybody gets upset about that, but it's. 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: Actually not crazy. 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: In years past it has been really cold, or that's 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 6: why it's not horrible. 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: It's not it's not terrible. And I if there's if 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: there's one, well I have many pet peeves, as you 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: well know, but I do know I would say that 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: one of my major ones is ninety degree temperatures in 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: February and is not a pet peeve. 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 6: If a pet peeve is something that somebody does that 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 6: they can stop doing. 45 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: God God is making it. 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: Hogh, Mother nature, mother Nature. He's got issues with mother Nature. 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: You know what they say, you're talking about the weather, 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: you have nothing to talk about. And that could be. 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: It couldn't be further from the truth. So let's go here. 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: Right off the top, let's see here Number one, most importantly, 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 2: has either one of you taking a selfie with Cam 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: Skataboo because Danny, you know, Darren's into selfies all the time. 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's always taking a selfie with someone. 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: If you one I'm sure has got his eyes open 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 6: and looking for Camp's kataboo. 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: I don't think Camp Scataboo's here yet. Running Backs don't 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: get here till the end of the week. This is 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: all the defensive guys have come here. 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 6: Darren's going to be wearing his ASU shirt on Friday 60 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 6: when running backs probably not. 61 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: So here's there's what we know and what we don't 62 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: know right now about the draft and at the combine. 63 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: We don't know the top pick as of yet, far 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: from a consensus on who's going to be the number one. 65 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: We don't even know the top quarterback yet. We don't 66 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: know what position the Heisman winner will even play, not 67 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: for sure. We also will not see the potential number 68 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: one pick, Abdul Carter right the edge out of Penn 69 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: State shoulder injury. And then here's my pet peep Ashton 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: Genty will not work out. You're from Spud State and 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: you're not gonna work out. You're gonna big time the 72 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: combine when you're from Spud State and you're gonna save 73 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: it to the Boise State Pro Day. Really, I had 74 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of an issue with that, a little bit. 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, Paul. I don't know if you 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: saw a tweet by a nationally known NFL reporter, but 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: he let us know that Shader Sanders wasn't going to 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: throw at the combine because he was going to and 79 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: I'm quoting the tweet now, was going to let his 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: play his game tape loudly say who he is. So 81 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: maybe maybe Ashton Gentry is just loudly letting his game 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: tape show who he is. 83 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: So I guess should do her. Sanders and cam Ward, 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: neither of whom are going to throw. They're just following 85 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: in the footsteps of last year, right Caleb Williams Jane Daniels, 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: the year they didn't throw. 87 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: So does about seriously, I know you said it's a 88 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: pet peeve. I understand, and apparently you have it in 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: for Boise State players, But this has been something that 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: we've I've seen, I've come to twenty five combines, whatever 91 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: it is. There's always guys that aren't participating and then 92 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: and it doesn't mean anything. And Marvin Harrison didn't do 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: anything last year either. 94 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Yeah, that's true, including talking to the media. 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, Well. 96 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: That's true. So I mean there's always guys that aren't 97 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: doing stuff. That's just how it is. I think that's 98 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: only going to get more pronounced as we go. But 99 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: that's okay because I think, I mean, those guys might 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: not throw, but they're still meeting with teams, they're still 101 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 4: doing the medical and quite frankly, if you talk to 102 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: the Maniassin Fort and the GMS, that's what they want 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: more than the stuff on the field. 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. That's our segue. Because they did 105 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: talk to the media and they did conduct a one 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: on one with Danny Sirex. So, Danny, what can you 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: tell us? What can both of you tell us? From 108 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: the podium and the press conference? What stood out the 109 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: most well? 110 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 6: When talking about general manager Mony awesome for it. He 111 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 6: was very emphatic and forthcoming when talking about wanting to 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 6: extend tight end Trey McBride, the Pro Bowl tight end 113 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: who is still ascending having just finished his third year. 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 6: There's no set timeline yet, mostly because McBride still has 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 6: another year of his contract Austin, for it made it 116 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 6: very clear that they want to keep McBride in the building, 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 6: and that was talking about his character, his preparation, his leadership, 118 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 6: his production on the field, similar to all the reasons 119 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 6: that running back James Connor and safety Budda Baker earned 120 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 6: in season contract extensions this past year. So it was 121 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: nice to hear very emphatically. It wasn't a oh, we 122 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: would love to have him, it's a two party talk. 123 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: Awesome. 124 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 6: For it was very clear that they want to keep 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 6: McBride in this organization and that's a priority for them. 126 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think is it a surprise that he 127 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: would say that, No, but I think being open about 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: I mean, the reality is is they don't have to 129 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: extend him this offseason. He's got a whole another year 130 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: left on his contract. But you know, because I had 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: asked the question, what does it mean to get James 132 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: Connor and Buddha Baker for instance, under contract in terms 133 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: of certainty that kind of thing, and could the same 134 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: thing happen with McBride, And I think that's ultimately what 135 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: the best part about if you extend McBride now would 136 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: do would be you're not going into next season, because 137 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen is if you don't do it this offseason, 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: you're going to be talking about it next offseason. Oh 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: my god, he's about to hit free agency, or you're 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: gonna be talking into the season actually, like we did 141 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: with Buddha, like we did with James Connor, and you 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: don't want that hanging over the heads. And the reality 143 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: is you want McBride around. 144 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 6: Especially if McBride has another season, then you're looking at 145 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 6: more money. 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, right. 147 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 6: And on top of that, if he is having a 148 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 6: great season, McBride might have had an interest. We're talking 149 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 6: on under the assumption that something is going to happen 150 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 6: this offseason. If he has a great season and hasn't 151 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 6: signed an extension, who's to say he doesn't want to 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 6: test the free agency market. So if it works for 153 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 6: both sides, it would make sense to give him that 154 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 6: extension this offseason. 155 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: I saw the one quote from Maniasabord. He said, once 156 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: we go to market, anything can happen. At that point, 157 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: and he was really talking more about the immedia free 158 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: agents like l J. Collier and Roy Lopez and Evan 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: Brown and Will Hernandez, Calvin Beacham, you know, Dennis Gardak, 160 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: Baron Browning, and then there's Kayzer White, which we talked 161 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: about on the Red Sea Report earlier today with Kyle 162 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Vannibasch and Craig Griolu. Considering Darren, you brought up that question. 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: They got a deal done for Booted, they got a 164 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: preemptive deal done on James Connor, Zavi and Collins, didn't 165 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: get a deal done in Kayzer White, based on what 166 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: Kaizer posted on social media, the whole thank you Az 167 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: at the end of the regular season. You know, the 168 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: more I think about it, the more I figure that 169 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: part apps the two sides tried and didn't reach a 170 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: number and agreed upon consensus, and so maybe that was 171 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: in his way at least a short term goodbye. I'm 172 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: going to test the market see what happens. And also 173 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: when you look at who could possibly be out there, 174 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: there's a number of guys that are free agents who 175 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: are fairly young in the middle of their career, potential 176 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: replacements at middle linebacker, that I could see maniacin for 177 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: and Jonathan gann in pursuing. 178 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: See, I agree with you. I think they would have 179 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: liked to keep Kayzer, but they had a number in mind, 180 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: and I'm sure Kaizer has a number of mind and 181 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: those just don't match right now. And when I hear 182 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: mania spports say, you know, anything can happen once we 183 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: get to free agency, I mean ultimately, and that's happened 184 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: in the past too. Look, they're talking to a number 185 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: of their own free agents. They've told the number of 186 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: their free agents what the number they're willing to sign 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: them matter. If they can get better than that somewhere else, 188 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: I think the Cardinals will will wish them well and say, 189 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: you know, good luck in your next place. And that's 190 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: what you have to deal with. And it works both ways. 191 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: I mean, if you if there's a guy the Cardinals 192 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: want to keep, yeah, you're worried about him leaving. But 193 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: the other thing, too is if if you don't take 194 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 4: that money and the team moves on and there is somebody, 195 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: like you said, Paul out on the open market who 196 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: they think could fill that role and get signed, then 197 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: you know you're gonna move on. I mean, a great 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: example that was Marcus Golden when he left to go 199 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: to I'm trying to remember where. I think it was 200 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: the Giants whenever they signed Charles Suggs, yep, I think 201 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 4: they want a Golden back. He thought he was going 202 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: to get a big contract. He didn't. They went ahead 203 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: and signed Torell Suggs right out of the box, and 204 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: his opportunity to come back to Arizona at whatever number 205 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: was gone because they signed Tourell Suggs. So that's that's 206 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: a risk of player takes two if he hits the 207 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: open market. 208 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're wondering about some of 209 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: those names, just taking a quick look earlier and throwing 210 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: down some names here on the computer. Nick Bolton right, 211 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: starting middle linebacker for Kansas City, age twenty five. 212 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: Schedule for Simsuri scheduled to. 213 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: Be a free By the way, Miszoo has two potential 214 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: first round picks. They have the guard, they have the 215 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: wide receiver. Those are gonna be some big names out 216 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: there at the combine. Zach Bond obviously, the Eagles going 217 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: to Ernest Jones, who really was a key to the 218 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: turnaround to the Seahawks defense after they traded for him, 219 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: Jamie and Sherwood. You're like, wait a minute, Jets. He 220 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: was named the team MVP by the locker room and 221 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: actually at a really good year and he's aged twenty five. 222 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: He could be in under the radar guy, maybe that. 223 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: Kid from the Chiefs. I love Bolton. I mean, I 224 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: don't know if he's available or what's going to happen there, 225 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: but I think he's really good. You Know. 226 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 6: What I thought was interesting was both Awesome for It 227 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 6: and Gannon were asked at the podium about Gannon's history 228 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 6: and knowledge of a handful of Eagles defenders who are 229 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 6: going to be free agents here in the next couple 230 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 6: of days, and both the head coach and general manager 231 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 6: talking about that and maybe some pros that the Cardinals 232 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 6: could have because of that connection, and Awesome for It 233 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 6: was saying, you know, any information, any extra knowledge is 234 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 6: helpful and good for him. However, just because it works 235 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 6: in one place doesn't necessarily mean it works in another. 236 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 6: And it's an interesting dynamic because Awesome for It can't 237 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: necessarily call up Eagles general manager and say, hey, can 238 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 6: you tell me about this player you're letting walk that 239 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 6: there's certain things where you can get. 240 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: Information in Canton. 241 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 6: Just because it worked in Philly doesn't necessarily mean it 242 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 6: would work in Arizona. Though, it was interesting to hear 243 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: both of them talk about just the concept of that 244 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 6: extra knowledge and chemistry that Gannon has with some expected 245 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 6: free agents coming out of Philly. 246 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: I mean, at the very least, if you go for 247 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: a free agent that Gannon has coached before, you avoid 248 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: a disaster like Jordan Phillips from a few years ago, 249 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: right because you know the person as well as the player. 250 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, that just gives them that 251 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: much more ability to feel confident in extending that that 252 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: sort of free agent money and going on a limb 253 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: with someone you can necessarily research as much as a 254 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: draft pick and get that immediate access to him. You 255 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: know what else I found interesting, you know, Jonathan Gann, 256 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: at least with the media, was his praise for Trey 257 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: Benson and his willingness to say, you know what, we 258 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: might have a couple of number ones at running back 259 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: if Trey continues his ascension. And you know, based on 260 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: those two three four games we saw before he got injured, 261 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: where he's really started looking like, you know, the same 262 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: style running as a James Connor. You know what, it's 263 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: very plausible that wasn't media speak. I could definitely see that. 264 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: It's interesting, Paul, because running back is one of the 265 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: deeper positions in this draft class. Although when you're talking 266 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 6: about the depth that the Cardinals have in the production 267 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 6: they had from the depth in this past season doesn't 268 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 6: scream an e the way so many other positions do. 269 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 6: But that is definitely going to be an interesting topic 270 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 6: of The Cardinals have been productive in the run game 271 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 6: seventh best run game yard rusher and James Connor, So 272 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: what's going to be the discussion there of you like 273 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 6: the running backs that you have, but you have to 274 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: discuss how deep this class is. 275 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: The other one was Darius Robinson. Didn't Gannon pretty much 276 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: admit he he wasn't one hundred percent. 277 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: All year, Yeah, he said, yeah, not fully healthy. 278 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: And I think with you know, you're talking about a 279 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: couple of guys from last year's class who I think 280 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: came in with a lot of expectations, both Benson and Robinson. 281 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: It went differently. I mean, obviously Benson got hurt, but 282 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: we got a lot to see a lot of him 283 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: before he got hurt, and I just think it never 284 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: quite clicked until the very end. Robinson, obviously not being 285 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: healthy and missing most of the season, I think just 286 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: really torpedoed what he was doing. But I think that 287 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: gives you optimism for what he was going. I know 288 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: that Gannon said, yeah, you could have two number one backs, 289 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: but he said that was if Trey Benson makes the jump, 290 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: that everybody's expecting him to make a year one to 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: year two, and that's that's fair. Uh. He even said 292 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: with Darius Robinson, he wouldn't even go and say he's 293 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: had a year under his belt. He said this was 294 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: more like, well he's. 295 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 5: Here one point five, you're one point five. 296 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: Because he did miss so much time and he was 297 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: so bad. So will they be a little bit more 298 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: of a curve for Darius Robinson to get over? I 299 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: mean possibly. I just think when you think when you 300 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: were talking about the defensive line in particular, I mean, 301 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: I know at one point I was thinking their starting 302 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: defensive line was going to be Justin Jones and Ball 303 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: Nichols and Darius Robinson, and they that never happened. That 304 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: group never happened, and those three guys barely played football total. 305 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 5: There are a lot of. 306 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: Question marks on the defensive line, question marks that were 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 6: presumably answered this time last year by bringing in Jones 308 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 6: and Nichols in free agency and drafting Robinson, and the 309 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: fact that they played a combined fifteen games between the 310 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 6: three them, not even a full season, there are still 311 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 6: question marks there. Now they are all under contract going 312 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 6: into next season. However, you have to do an evaluation 313 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 6: of figuring out, Okay, what do we actually have with 314 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: these players who we didn't get to see a full 315 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 6: season of and let that lead you to the answers 316 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 6: and decisions that need to be made in. 317 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: Free agency in the draft. 318 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 6: It's a balance of re signing players or looking in 319 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 6: free agency and looking into the draft. 320 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 5: And something Awesome for It talked about. 321 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 6: Tuesday at the podium was they don't want to go 322 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 6: into the draft feeling like they can't play a game 323 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 6: at that moment. That's something you're going to adjust from 324 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 6: free agency for us by the time they get to 325 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 6: the draft. Awesome for It says they want to feel 326 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: like if they had to play a game that day, 327 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 6: they could. You're looking to supplement more of those younger 328 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 6: players in the draft that you're likely going to have 329 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 6: to have some time developing as opposed to having them 330 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 6: come in and be premier players immediate impact from the jump. 331 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: By the way, let's just say LJ. Collier in Roy 332 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: Lopez go elsewhere. Maybe there is room for an outside 333 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: free agent at D line. That's something I didn't even 334 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: think about, just based on the fact that they extended 335 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: offers a year ago to Blall Nichols and Justin Jones. 336 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: But if indeed you lose those two veterans, you know 337 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: there are a couple of interesting names out there. The 338 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: Niners say they're going to release Javon Hargrave, who has 339 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: connections with h the head coach, Jonathan Gannon, DeMarcus Lawrence 340 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: coming off that dreaded Liz Frank injury, the foot injury, 341 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: but he has been very, very productive over his career. 342 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: Maybe the price is right on a one year, proven 343 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: deal there, Jaron Reid, who has been a headache with 344 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: the Seahawks at times over the years. And then our guy, 345 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: thirty nine year old Kalais Campbell will be out there. 346 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, by the way I've I think it's 347 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: the same person. But last week when I was out. 348 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: Why'd you look at me like that? 349 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: I'm I'm just I'm trying to have a good conversation 350 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: with you, Danny. When I was out, Craig Grielou and 351 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: Zach Gershman tached team the mail bag and somebody asked 352 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: about Klais Campbell and then I noticed, which I didn't 353 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: put in this week. I got the same exact question 354 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 4: this week. So yeah. 355 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 2: By the way, I saw a quick interview with Tony Boselli, 356 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: right the new decision maker with Jacksonville. He said, the 357 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: reason that his young head coach and his young even 358 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: younger general manager both got the job is because they 359 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: believe in the line of scrimmage. They believe in the 360 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: run game. Sounds like it was almost that easy, like 361 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: sold and boom, okay, you're coming in. So the the 362 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: re emergence of the run game in the NFL is 363 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: still very alive. And well there's a And by the way, 364 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: you know, go ahead. 365 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: And I don't I don't mean to interrupt Paul, but 366 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: I did want to say, like, at one point, Jonathan 367 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: Gannon was asked about the line of scrimmage and he 368 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: and I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, you can go 369 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: to my son's game and he's in the third grade 370 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 4: to middle school to high school games, to the national 371 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: championship in college to the suit Bowl. It's about blocking 372 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: and tackling. It's about the trenches, and that's where it starts, 373 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: and that's what you should teams should be looking at. 374 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 4: And so I just know that we've talked about it 375 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: a lot. I think the strength of this draft lies 376 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 4: in the trenches anyways, but it just seems as we 377 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: get closer and closer, all the signs point to them 378 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: leaning into that right more so on. 379 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 6: The defensive side of the ball. Now, Osenborne has drafted 380 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 6: four offensive linemen in his tenure in Arizona. Doesn't necessarily 381 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 6: mean he's going to draft another one this year, especially 382 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 6: when you have some of your starters who are going 383 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: to expectedly hit the market here in the next couple 384 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 6: of days. 385 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 5: It does bode well for the Cardinals. 386 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 6: That some of the most glaring needs are defensive linemen 387 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 6: and pass rushers, and those are two of the deepest 388 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: classes in this year's draft. 389 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: In fact, two more mock drafts out today, because I 390 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: know Darren can't go another moment without getting the latest 391 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: in the mock draft update. Desks love the mocks Melkype 392 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: two point zero, number sixteen overall Shamar Stewart out of 393 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Texas A and M, who, for my money, reminds me 394 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: way too much of Trayvon Walker, almost the exact same 395 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: measurable six y five two eighty one versus six five 396 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: two seventy three for Trayvon Walker, who, by the way, 397 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: in his college career all three years at Georgia had 398 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: nine and a half sacks. That's it. And Shamar Stewart 399 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: has had one and a half sacks each of his 400 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: three years in A and M. So all the measurables, 401 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: all the upside, none of the production. 402 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 4: I'm not a production. 403 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure the Cardinals are going there. 404 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 6: How do you necessarily measure production just outside sacks? I 405 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 6: mean you have to look at disrupting the quarterback right 406 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 6: and being productive in other ways outside of sacks. 407 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: So like, for example, on Shamar Stewart, it wasn't just 408 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: even sacks here. He also he also was really deficient 409 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: and like tackles for loss and quarterback hits, it just anyway, 410 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: it just scares me, that's all, Sam, That's all I'm saying. 411 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: And by the way, what's interesting is number sixteen. A 412 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: year ago was the Seahawks Byron Murphy going defensive line 413 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: right out of Texas and all year long his rookie 414 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 2: season half sack in fourteen games, two tackles for loss, 415 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: a single quarterback hit for Byron Murphy, the second the 416 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: rookie out of Texas who was the d lineman taking 417 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: sixteen overall year ago. In fact, Greelou reminded me, he said, 418 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: you know, what is your slogan this year, Calvic Consulting, 419 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: because remember last year at this time we started working 420 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: it up and it was let there be a fourth QB. 421 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: Remember that one? 422 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: Oh, how could we forget Paul? 423 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it didn't exactly, you know, work out that way. 424 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: Even though there were six quarterbacks in the top twelve, 425 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: they went one, two, three, eight, ten, twelve. It really 426 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: wasn't a viable consideration at four. And so so we've 427 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: been trying to work on a marketing slogan maybe for 428 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: this year. You guys ready came up. 429 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: With a couple of we're so ready, so ready. 430 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: It's a little raw, it's a little it's only half cooked, 431 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: it's not quite out of them, and yet is it good? 432 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 5: Paul? 433 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: Find a pass rush? Machine at sixteen. 434 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: I like that. 435 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: Okay, that's not bad. You're just giving you that kind 436 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: of credit. But that's not bad. 437 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Here's one turn sixteen into a crime scene hashtag steal. 438 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 5: I'm not as high on that one high. 439 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm not as high on that one, but I am 440 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: impressed with that kind of thought process. That's uh. 441 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: In the last one I'm working on once again, this 442 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: is within the last hour. I need to be polished 443 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: over here or maybe just deleted. I'm thinking sixteen. I'm 444 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: thinking Phoenix open, more takedowns at sixteen than the Phoenix 445 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: open something like that. That one's a little I can 446 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: work on that. 447 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: How about can you do something with sweet sixteen? 448 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: I did have that down Sweet sixteen or like sixteen candles, 449 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: which would be more in the genre. And the wheelhouse 450 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: for like a Darren and myself. I've seen history, you know. 451 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 5: So you can keep working on. I like the first one, Paul, 452 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: one of three not bad. 453 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: You know what, might as well continue my losing ways 454 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: here as we make the transition here midway through Cardinals Underground, 455 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. It is the 456 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: return against my wishes of wise Guy Trivia. 457 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the world's bestest Growing 458 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low. The winner gets 459 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess. 460 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: Danny's a right, I have. 461 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 5: Missed that intro. 462 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 6: I know Darren has his walk because what were you 463 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: fifteen and two of the regular season against Paul. 464 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 4: It's all about the competition. We don't worry about it. 465 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 5: The record start over. 466 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: You know what in two weeks. It's a new league year, 467 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: and Danny, you're not allowed. You're not allowed to mention 468 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: the record from last year. That will be so last 469 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: year at that point, So last year. 470 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 6: Okay, So I gotta admit I don't. I don't have 471 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 6: it written down. 472 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 5: Who won the. 473 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 6: Last wise Guy of the regular season. I'm gonna I'm 474 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 6: gonna take a hunch and say it with Darren. Probably probably, 475 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 6: so Darren, we will get you first pick. 476 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give the questions. I'm going to defer to Paul. 477 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 5: WHOA Paul pick a number. 478 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: I don't need anyone's charity around here. Obviously we're going 479 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: with two. 480 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. 481 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 6: In nineteen ninety nine, the Cardinals selected Ohio state wide 482 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 6: receiver David Boston with the eighth pick in the draft. 483 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 6: The Cardinals also had the twenty first overall selection that year. 484 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 6: Which player did they select with that pick? Hint, he 485 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 6: was alignment all these questions just so you both know 486 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 6: we're going to be draft centric. Twenty first nineteen twenty 487 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 6: first overall. 488 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: Selection, LJ. Shelton. 489 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: You got it. 490 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: Oops, not sure where I'm not sure if this. 491 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: Was an amazing reaction. Congratulations, Paul, you got it right. 492 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: It feels good when we have to add in a 493 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: bleep a little bit later, you know, and actually get. 494 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 5: In a genuine that was actually the draft. 495 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: The Cardinals also selected defensive back Parashawnson, senior out of 496 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 6: Miami of Ohio at the fifth round pick. 497 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: Could that job? Paul? Could that be the first lead 498 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed? And wise guy history? 499 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 5: Will we just cut it here? 500 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: Don't answer that? Go ahead, here we go, Here we go. 501 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 5: Darren, Pick question number four? 502 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: Please? 503 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 6: Okay, This four time Pro Bowl player and eleven year 504 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 6: NFL defender has the distinction of being the first ever 505 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 6: draft pick of the Phoenix Cardinals shortly after the team 506 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: moved to Arizona in nineteen eighty eight. 507 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: Okay, could you repeat the first start again. 508 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 5: This four time Pro Bowl player, an eleven year NFL defender, 509 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 5: has the distinction of being the first ever draft pick 510 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 5: of the feat Enix Cardinals, shortly after the team moved 511 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: to Arizona in nineteen eighty eight. 512 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: Is it, Eric Hill? 513 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: It is not all the opportunity to steal? 514 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, good news, bad news, good news, have an opportunity. 515 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: Darren got it wrong. The bad news is that was 516 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: my answer. Uh so let's see here, who canna come 517 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: up with? Four time Pro bowler nineteen eighty eight? Ah, 518 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: Tim McDonald, Oh boy, that's all. 519 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 6: You are going to slap yourself when you hear this 520 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 6: answer out of col linebacker Ken Harvey. 521 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: Oh wait, he made four Pro Bowls? Really, my guy, 522 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Ken Harvey. 523 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if he made them all with the Cardinals. 524 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: Actually shared a class with with Ken Harvey. Okay, here 525 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: we go. 526 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: That's what class was. Deplorable. 527 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: It's I don't know. I was a freshman, he was. 528 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: He was graduating. I remember as a way back of 529 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: a five hundred person lecture on I'm like that guy 530 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: is huge. Oh that's Ken Harvey. Okay, thank you? 531 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 5: Question one or three? 532 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: Well, he put it away Paul, if you get this right, 533 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: give me one because I'm going to finish number one 534 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: in this edition of wise Guy Trivia. Here we go. 535 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: Let's see. 536 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 6: The final selection of each draft class is known as 537 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 6: mister Irrelevant. The Cardinals have selected mister irrelevant four times. 538 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 6: In twenty fifteen, the Cardinals selected this former Louisville tight 539 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 6: end with the final pick of the draft. 540 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I can actually see him. I met his locker. 541 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm interviewing him. I'm actually asking him questions. Gerald Williams, 542 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: you have to say incorrect. 543 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 5: Darren can steal. 544 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: I'm close. 545 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, you are close. That's why I'm trying to figure 546 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: it out. 547 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: And I shouldn't offer that to Darren. Do not think, 548 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: do not think out loud. 549 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: Gerald Wilkins, I don't know why. 550 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 6: I'm Gerald, Christian, Christian, Darren, You're still in this. 551 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: That's true. 552 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here we go. 553 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: We might have to go to a tiebreaker. 554 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 5: Okay, well we'll be ready, Okay. 555 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 6: On the eve of the nineteen to ninety five NFL Draft, 556 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 6: the Cardinals sent a first and fourth round pick to 557 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 6: an AFC East team to acquire this Pro Bowl offensive 558 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 6: weapon named the team and the. 559 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: Player Rob Moore and the Jets. 560 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 5: Correct, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to a tiebreaker. 561 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: Unreal, unreal. 562 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: Can't believe I missed Gerald christ Actually I'm more bad 563 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: that you got L. J. Shelton because obviously I thought 564 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: you were going to miss that. 565 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 6: Okay, tiebreaker, you both ready, I've been ready, Okay, pass Rusher. 566 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 6: Marcus Golden was the Cardinal's second round selection in the 567 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 6: twenty fifteen NFL Draft. How many career sacks did Junkyard 568 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 6: Dog have in his nine year NFL career? 569 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: We need an exact number right here. 570 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because it's we're gonna don't don't say it 571 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 4: out loud, Paul, because I'll write mine down, yes, and 572 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: then you can out loud. 573 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So this price is closest to the number. Okay, 574 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: all right, okay. 575 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 5: Paul sounds like he is thinking hard. 576 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm violating my role. No math here, Okay. 577 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 6: Darren has written his down. So when you are ready, Paul, 578 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 6: you can say your number. 579 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go Ronnie lot forty two. 580 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 6: Darren went with forty three, and the correct answer is 581 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 6: fifty one. 582 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Actually a minute, be it. 583 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 6: Thirty five and a half with the Cardinals. Darren continues 584 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 6: his street believable. 585 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: Sorry, Paul, that was fun. 586 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 5: I'm glad we brought that back. 587 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: You know what, what's my mantrapter this last season? Finish drives, 588 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: finish games, finished seasons, finish wise guy trivia. That's what 589 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: I get, Paul. 590 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 5: The new league year could be a fresh start for 591 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: league year. 592 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: That's right, Okay? 593 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: What else stands out from the from the combine? I mean, 594 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: I see like they have, like see these crazy little stories, 595 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: Like there's brand new turf in the Dome. Only two 596 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: locations in the world have this sort of turf, So 597 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: they took the end zone from one side of the field. 598 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: They brought it into like the performance center. So guys 599 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: on this, I mean, you know, have you guys done 600 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, an investigative story on the turf. Guys are 601 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: trying to you know, they got to test out the 602 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: turf so they make sure they get proper traction when 603 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: they run their forty. I've seen stuff like that out there. 604 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: We haven't seen anything like that. There's just been a 605 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: lot of tush push talk, see that. 606 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I've seen that. Nick Sirianni took it personal 607 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit the whole. Uh you know, 608 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni up there saying, because you notice that a 609 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: number of NFL decision makers have cited, well, you know, 610 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: there might be health and injury concerns. Sirianni pushback in that, saying, 611 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a little made up. I can't remember 612 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: one injury. I can't remember one injury we had in 613 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: that place, and we ran it more than anybody else. 614 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: And then someone else said, well, Nick, what about you 615 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: know people who think the tush push is like an 616 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: automatic And he said, I almost feel like I should 617 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: be a little insulted because we work so hard on 618 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: that play and our guys are talented at that play. 619 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: So okay, but there's definitely led by the Packers. There's 620 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: definitely a movement to eradicate the tush. 621 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 6: Push, which we've talked about of being a rugby play 622 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 6: and being able to push another player. 623 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: I'm okay with with lining up. Just don't let them 624 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: come from behind. I mean that's and if that's all 625 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: about whatever, don't push the tush. 626 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: What about the quarterback talks in in the NFC West. 627 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: I bring that up because low key, there are some 628 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: quarterback questions and the rest of the division are there not. 629 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams giving Matthew Stafford permission to speak 630 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: to other teams and via Albert Breer, the Giants, the Steelers, 631 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: the Browns, and the Raiders have shown in trist And 632 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: a potential Matthew Stafford trade. 633 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: I mean, why wouldn't you be interested in Matthew Stafford 634 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: if your quarterback needy? Yeah, which I would include the 635 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: Rams with that. I don't I don't really understand. 636 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 5: They want to go younger. 637 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure they want to go younger, but 638 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: like they don't have that person yet. 639 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I mean, they're used to paying him twenty 640 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: five to thirty a year and he wants fifty to 641 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: fifty five a year, So the Rams aren't aren't interested. 642 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's probably fair, you know. By the way, 643 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: GM John Schneider the Seahawks told reporters I think today 644 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: that the Seahawks are going to meet with Geno Smith team, 645 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: Geno and his agents this week about talks in a 646 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: contract extension for Geno Smith. So there's that, I guess. 647 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: John Schneider got grilled a little bit about building an 648 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: offensive line, and his one Seahawks. Beat Ryder pointed out, 649 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: since he took over in twenty ten, here's a wise 650 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: guy trivia for you. How many Pro Bowl offensive lineman 651 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: has the longtime GM of the Seahawks drafted in his 652 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: Seattle career. 653 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: Good question. 654 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: It was his drafted drafted. It was his very first 655 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: pick in twenty ten, Russell o'coon. 656 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I wouldn't have come on with that. 657 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: And since then he has selected twenty three offensive lineman 658 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: in the last fifteen years and he's zero for the 659 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. So Seahawks faithful. The twelves are getting a 660 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: little irritated they can't build an offensive line, and they're 661 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: also irritated with some of the top picks they've had 662 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: over the last decade. And if you want to name names, 663 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: I'll gladly do so. James Carpenter or Paul Richardson, who 664 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: was number forty five, germaina Fedi, Malik McDowell number thirty five, 665 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: Rashad Penny, LJ. Collier, Dwayne Eskridge. Those were all first rounders. 666 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: Of course, he hit a couple of years ago with 667 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: Devon Witherspoon and Jackson Smith and Jigbo. 668 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and why why did he hit on those two 669 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: as opposed to some of the all those other ones, 670 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 4: aren't they all in like twenty five to thirty two. 671 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: More like fifteen to thirty Yeah, yeah. 672 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 4: I mean you got to you still got a hit, 673 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: But like that's what happens when you're picking later. 674 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: Right by the way, do you guys see the viral video? 675 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: I do know I can call it viral viral, but 676 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: it made quite an impression on social media. Flying out 677 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: Eatingannapolis Pete Carroll City. He was in boarding class D. 678 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: He was in an exit row, and then he walked 679 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: up the first class and spent over an hour talking 680 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: to Seahawks coach Mike McDonald and his former GM John Schneider. 681 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: And they had a very serious, hour long conversation. And 682 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: there's already speculation maybe the Raiders and Seahawks swing some 683 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: sort of deal at some point. So there's that, there's 684 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: that uh, and then there's a Metcalf. There's the Brock 685 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: Perty update desk, and apparently some some beat writer for 686 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: the Niners has created uh. He needs his own oven 687 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: myths for his hot take. He's been trying to push 688 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: Brock party trade for Matthew Stafford Niners and Rams get 689 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: together on a blockbuster in the division quarterback deal. 690 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 5: O world would that happen? 691 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: And so he's he's getting shouted down right now? 692 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: This p right and the Rams would make that trade 693 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 6: knowing they'd have to pay Party. 694 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 4: They don't want to pay Matthew Stafford fifty five million dollars. 695 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 4: Why would you want to pay brock Party fifty five 696 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: million dollars? 697 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 2: By the way, the respect thirty. Stephen Jones, executive VP 698 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: of the Cowboys said, Uh, yeah, Trey Lance, thanks, but 699 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: no thanks, They're they're moving on from Trey Lance, just 700 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: just to let you know. So do you add him 701 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: to the list of potential quarterbacks the Cardinals could consider? 702 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: Because Danny what what did Manty Austin Ford or Jonathan 703 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: Gannon either one do? Weren't they asked the quarterback question 704 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: as a backup for Kyler today. 705 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 6: It wasn't phrased necessarily as a backup. It was more 706 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 6: so us the thought of adding another quarterback to that room, 707 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 6: which to me would be silling, not to You're going 708 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 6: to need a body regardless, you're going to need three 709 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 6: quarterbacks as you get later into the off seats, and 710 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 6: so that to me is kind of a no brainer, 711 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 6: especially when you want to have competition. That is something 712 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 6: that awesome Fort talked about, is wanting to have competition 713 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 6: in every room. I don't see that as bringing in 714 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 6: a quarterback to vibe for the starting role against Kyler Murray. 715 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 6: I see that as you're going to fight for the 716 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 6: backup spot against Clayton Tune. If it is a veteran, 717 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 6: that can be beneficial. Think of a couple years ago 718 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 6: with Colt McCoy, somebody who was able to help Murray 719 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 6: understand the game a little more and just grow. Now 720 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 6: Murray is a couple of years past that and has 721 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 6: a better understanding and who he is and what he 722 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 6: can do when reading defenses. It wouldn't hurt necessarily to 723 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 6: bring in a veteran for a fresh set of eyes 724 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 6: and to help Murray in that sense as well. I 725 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 6: don't personally take that as we're going to bring in 726 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 6: a quarterback to see if he can be our starter. 727 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 6: I see that Morris competition for your backup. So to me, 728 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 6: that to discussion and hearing that doesn't set off any alarms. 729 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm I I would even take it a 730 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 4: step further. I mean I do think they wouldn't mind 731 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 4: some competition with like Clayton Tune, like's say, for instance. 732 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 4: But the bottom line is, Paul, they have two quarterbacks 733 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: on the roster right now, like literally, just for logistics alone, 734 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 4: they need at least one more arm if not two, 735 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 4: to add to the roster just to have even if 736 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: Clayton Tune remains your backup. So yeah, they're gonna add 737 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 4: a quarterback. 738 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So two things here. One, who do you think 739 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: is a clubhouse leader? If anyone, I'm gonna read some 740 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: names of free agent quarterbacks, you tell me who might 741 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 2: make sense or merit consideration, and then I'm gonna give 742 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: you my own hot take as I hit zoom out. Okay, 743 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: because you know I can't let that forty nine er 744 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: sped writer get away with all the hot takes around here. 745 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: Here we go, free agent QB's a lease that I 746 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: have down, Sam Darnold, Russell Wilson, Marcus Mariota, Jimmy Garoppolo, 747 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brisse said, Jamis Winston, Tyler Huntley, Aaron Rods, Trey Lance. Okay, 748 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: I have two in there that might be feasible, plausible, doable. 749 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota Jimmy Garoppolo. Does he have Monty ties to 750 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: the New England days? 751 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 5: Darren is shaking his head. 752 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 4: No, I mean, I don't know if he has ties, 753 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: but I don't Jimmy Garoppolo is not the one guy 754 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: on that list that I would be interested in. It 755 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 4: would be Mariota as a backup. 756 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 6: Does seem like a question of Sam Donald after the 757 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 6: year he had in Minnesota? The question is he going 758 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 6: to try and go get money elsewhere and be somewhere. 759 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 4: Where he Why would Sam Donald end up at a 760 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 4: place where he could start exactly? He's going to start somewhere. 761 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 4: He should start somewhere. He deserves to start somewhere. 762 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: I guess I should throw Daniel Jones in there, right, 763 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: I guess I should add that. 764 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 4: He's already the Vikings. Isn't he? Is he? 765 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: But isn't he? He's not a free agent come the 766 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: league year. 767 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: I thought they signed him to a deal at the 768 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: end of the year so that he. 769 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be a free agent, gotcha, all right? 770 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 4: I could be wrong on that. I'll look that up 771 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: for you, Paul, don't you fred here? 772 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: Okay? So while you do that, this is just me 773 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: thinking out loud. Did I mention? This is me thinking 774 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 2: out loud. Here we go. If this is a quarterback 775 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: poor draft at least in terms of depth, and it is, 776 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: and there are a number of teams who are desperate, 777 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: desperate for a quarterback for a future at the most 778 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: important position in sports. Do you think is Mania support 779 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: walks around and maybe any other number of gms walk 780 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: around that there are two types of gms, those who 781 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: have their franchise quarterback and those who do not and 782 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: they're desperate. Do you think Moni is fielding a few 783 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 2: inquiries from other teams? Hey, you know, Moni, what would 784 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 2: it take? You know, maybe teams come up and say, hey, 785 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: you didn't draft your quarterback. What do you think what 786 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: would it take? Do you think that happens? I have 787 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: never been to a combine. You two go every year, 788 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 2: So I put it to you. Do you think that 789 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: might happen at some point this week? 790 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: Do I think discussions like that happen? 791 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: Yes? 792 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 5: Do I think that discussions specifically about Kyler Murray happened? 793 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. 794 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 6: I think that this front office and this coaching staff 795 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 6: feels very strongly about their quarterback and the work that 796 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 6: he has put In and what they have seen from 797 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 6: him in the year and a half that they have 798 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 6: been coaching him. I do think from a broader standpoint, 799 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 6: as a general manager for any team, isn't that your 800 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 6: due diligence to at least listen to what people have 801 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 6: to offer, what they have to say, so you can 802 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 6: have an idea even if you have no interest whatsoever 803 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 6: and moving any sort of player or making a trade, 804 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 6: shouldn't you at least have open ears. 805 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: I think there's three things here. One, I think that 806 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 4: if we ever could have like a list made out 807 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 4: of all the things that were talked about at the 808 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 4: combine that actually happened, it would be fascinating reading. Two, Paul, 809 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: you're right, Daniel Jones is a free agent. And three, 810 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 4: this was Jonathan Gannon two hours ago, asked about Kyler Murray. 811 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 4: I'm not going to make any power statements, but he's 812 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 4: going to have a hell of a year. I mean, 813 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 4: that doesn't sound like a guy who's giving any thought 814 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 4: to doing something else besides playing. Kyler Murray's the number 815 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 4: one quarterback, which quite frankly, I've thought all along anyways, and 816 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 4: really we've ever never been given any reason to think 817 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 4: otherwise other than no disrespect for anybody in the listening audience, 818 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 4: all the fan base, people that want to move on 819 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: from him, You're the only ones. The team doesn't want to. 820 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 4: The team has never wanted to, not at this point. 821 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: And the other reason I throwed that out is about 822 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: a week ago or so, we had that rogue report 823 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 2: that the Steelers made inquiries to Jacksonville about the availability 824 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: of Trevor Lawrence, like just you know, and then in 825 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: light of the Luka Doncicch trade, You're like, okay, wait 826 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: a minute. You know, maybe some of these teams are 827 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: feeling themselves and they're more apt to inquire about a blockbuster. 828 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: I just throw it out there. You know. It's sort 829 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: of like a buddy of mine. He's got this really 830 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 2: rare classic car and he takes it to shows and 831 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: he sits there and he's not giving it up. He 832 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: doesn't need the money. But I can't tell you how 833 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: many people come up to him, how much, how much? 834 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: So how much buy that right now? Cash? How much? 835 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 2: And he always listens, he always lets them name the price, 836 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: and then he shakes his head and says no. So 837 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 2: I just throw that out there. 838 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 4: So is he listening or is he just not being rude, 839 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 4: because really, if it's if it's never ever gonna happen, 840 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 4: are you really listening? 841 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, if they blew his hair back within a you know, 842 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: absurd offer, yeah, I bet he would pull the trigger. 843 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: I'll say that much. So okay, just that's him. Just 844 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 2: throw it out here. 845 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 4: You are happy where you're living right now, Paul, correct, 846 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 4: Sure it's gonna be good. Yes, I assume your family is, as. 847 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: Far as I know. Are you telling me? Are you 848 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: reporting something, Darren? 849 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 4: No, I'm not reporting anything. I'm setting you up. Okay, 850 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: I'm setting up for this question. What could you give 851 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 4: us a ballpark of what kind of offer it would 852 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 4: take for me? 853 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, there's a number if somebody knocked on my 854 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 2: front door or the number? Oh I could give him 855 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: a number? Oh yeah I could. 856 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 4: But is it is it like a realistic number or 857 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 4: is it like dumb? 858 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 2: It's definitely above market value? 859 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 4: Well yeah, it's got to be above market sure value. 860 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 4: But if you're gonna sit there and say, yeah, if 861 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 4: somebody came and offered me five million dollars from my house, 862 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 4: I'm moving well yeah, I know. 863 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, speaking to Kylie. We do want yeah, we don't, 864 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: you know speaking the the over under on Darren getting bleep, 865 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: by the way, is one point five the uh. According 866 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 2: to People magazine, Olympic gold medalist Noah Lyles is gonna 867 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: raise Tyreek Hill bring that up for two reasons. Number one, 868 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: Noah Lyles has a connection to the Cardinals a little bit. 869 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: That rams game week two, right he was the guy 870 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: uh cranking the big red siren back in September. Yes, yes, 871 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 2: here's but it begets this question, which current cardinal would 872 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: you like to see race another cardinal or maybe even 873 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: a cardinal from the past. And that's my segue because 874 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: you know what, to me, I'll take Kyler racing anybody 875 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: you name him. I want to see it. I want 876 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 2: to see if you go back to his rookie year, 877 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: could even been rookie mini camp. Do you remember Darren 878 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: the video the Cardinals department got at the end of 879 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 2: one of the workouts Andy and mister four to three 880 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: against Kyler Murray and uh it was pretty much a 881 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 2: dead heat. 882 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. 883 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 5: How about this one, Kyler Murray and Hollywood Brown. 884 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: M that's a good one. That is a good one. 885 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 4: Dominique Rogers. Carmarty was pretty fast. 886 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh boy, there aren't many guys that would take it 887 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 2: against Kyler. I would take DRC. Yeah, young DRC. 888 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, DRC was pretty. 889 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: He ran with Chris Johnson, that one eighty plus yard 890 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 2: touchdown run that Chris Johnson ripped off in Nashville. 891 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 4: That's exactly what it popped into my head when he 892 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 4: just brought him up. 893 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 6: You know, it could be fun as Paul Darren Urban 894 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 6: because Darren has longer legs, but he doesn't have a 895 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 6: great back, So can. 896 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: Paul take No, it's you guys are there, so somebody 897 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: has to race Rich Eisen. As Kyle Vanabosch brought up earlier, 898 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: it was Craig Griolo against Rich Eisen. 899 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 4: I think I just pulled something talking about. 900 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: I see okay, well you know what that seems like 901 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: a logical segue into uh, well you know how this 902 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 2: works around here. There's the good, there's the bad, and 903 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 2: then there's winning behavior. Can you display winning behavior? 904 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 5: You have to consistently display winning behavior. 905 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: That's winning behavior. You've got to define what winning behavior 906 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 2: is and hold people to that standard. Yes, Once upon 907 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: a time, Cardinals Hall of Famer Aenius Williams was found 908 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: of telling the media for a loss, you take lemons 909 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: and you make lemonade. That was one of his favorites, 910 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: his go to disposition, that Williams Terrence Shannon Junior. He 911 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 2: is the guy whose jersey was hung in the rafters 912 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: upside down. He has decided to make light of it 913 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: and actually make a revenue stream out of it on 914 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 2: behalf of the Boys and Girls Clubs. How about that 915 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: he's selling T shirts with the upside down wording and 916 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: a screenshot on a T shirt and all proceeds benefiting 917 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: the Boys and Girls Clubs. So you know what, that's 918 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: well done. That's a double ding right there for Terrence Shanion. 919 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 4: Juniors as a as a refresher to anybody who wasn't 920 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 4: was unfamiliar. He had his number retired at University Illinois 921 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 4: and they unfurled the banner. 922 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 5: And you know, Paul had a conspiracy theory about that 923 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 5: last week. 924 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 4: Of course he did what was. 925 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it had something to do well, No, I haven't 926 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: looked into it, but you know, I think the locals 927 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: were protest in the fact that a they decided to 928 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 2: retire his jersey considering he'd only played there two years, 929 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 2: the first three year of his career like at A 930 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: and m okay and and then he also had a suspension, 931 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 2: which I'll let you look up. 932 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but he was exonerat he was he 933 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 4: was so no, you know, I throw this in. This 934 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 4: isn't on our list, Paul. But winning behavior, yep, I'm 935 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 4: gonna have to give a big winning behavior totally to 936 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 4: Diana Tarassi, who apparently is retiring. Oh man, and so 937 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 4: she apparently has said that to a couple outlets now. 938 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 4: So Diana Tarassi fantastic, one of the best women's basketball 939 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 4: players ever, played her whole w NBA career with the 940 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 4: Phoenix Mercury and so we were all lucky to see 941 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 4: her play. And she's retiring. So that's definitely she definitely 942 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 4: had winning behavior. 943 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the D and DT stands for double ding on 944 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: that one, no doubt. I remember there was a Mercury 945 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: media day. I showed up, you know, poly pancake makeup. 946 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 2: We sat down and she gave he best went seriously 947 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: a top five interview in my career. She was unbelievable 948 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure even asked one question. She just went. 949 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 2: She just she's like read my mind what I wanted 950 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: to talk about. She could walk in and be the 951 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, the next Charles bark Lag. I'm convinced she 952 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: is a she might be sick. She might I mean, 953 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 2: she goes to broadcasting route, she will co rush it. 954 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of basketball, Darren, it says here that you and 955 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: your son had a moment in regards Oh yeah. 956 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 4: Who so So it's quick, quick highlight. So I was 957 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 4: on vacation last week and I was looking at social 958 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 4: media and one of those hey on this date thing 959 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 4: popped up, and then one of my post, yeah memory, 960 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 4: I couldn't remember that word. It's because I don't have 961 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 4: a memory, apparently, And it was a couple of pictures 962 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 4: that I had taken of when my younger son was 963 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 4: a senior in high school playing basketball. My older son 964 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 4: was coaching that year, and I put the two pictures 965 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 4: up and then my note in the post was I 966 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 4: love you guys. And then I had astros Normandale voice asters, 967 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 4: and I put it in the family group chat just 968 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 4: to put it in there. Nevermind everybody, and my younger 969 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 4: said son wrote back, wtf is Norman Dale? And I 970 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 4: was just crushed. 971 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 6: Paul, I have to have a quick side note. Okay, 972 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 6: where our table is in radio row. We are on 973 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 6: the edge of table forty if you were curious, And 974 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 6: to our left they have a TV on some wheels 975 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 6: and it's been playing you know, ESPN, NFL network throughout 976 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 6: the day. They currently have a week eight from the 977 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 6: season CBS game. There is eighteen seconds left in the 978 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 6: fourth quarter and Chicago is up fifteen twelve overwa washed, 979 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 6: do you want us to give a play by play 980 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 6: of what happens anything with maybe a certain dB who 981 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 6: might land on the list of incompetence. 982 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,439 Speaker 2: Well, he's currently number four. He's holding strong at number 983 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: four on the powerpole of ineptitude. 984 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 5: We've got We've got about eighteen seconds left. 985 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 2: Ty Tyreek Stevenson will pretty much play it into existence 986 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: here in eighteen seconds from now. So there you go. 987 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 2: By the way, Darren's acronym there, does that qualify as 988 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 2: a bleep? Did he hit the over on the over under? 989 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure. Okay, So what was acronym? 990 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? By the way, I was in print. 991 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Darren, you know you're in Indiana right now, 992 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 2: You're in the Hoosier State. You know, and then you 993 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 2: know you're telling your story about Norman Dale. 994 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 4: First of all, that that scene gets me choked up 995 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 4: every single time I see it. And secondly, I know 996 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 4: my son saw this post before, because I'm sure I 997 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 4: send it in the family chat the first time I 998 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 4: put it up. 999 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's my segue from Hoosier's to Hooters. And 1000 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 2: speaking of getting choked up, Devin Booker tweeted out, please 1001 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: don't go when he was notified or found out that 1002 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 2: apparently Hooters might end up filing for bankruptcy. It might 1003 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 2: be no moss sometime in the New York Oh, here's. 1004 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 5: The full context. 1005 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, back in like twenty twelve, twenty eleven, there was 1006 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 6: an old tweet from Devin Booker about how he was 1007 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 6: saying he wanted to go to Hooters with his friends. 1008 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 6: There's like a couple tweets about that, so people found it. 1009 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 6: Quote tweeted it to make sure he saw the news 1010 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 6: about the bankruptcy. 1011 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 4: So that's going to Hooters with a fellas. That's a 1012 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 4: that's a meme tweet from Devin Booker. 1013 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 5: Pall, there's two seconds left in the game. 1014 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh boy, he goes Jayden and Daniels's favorite. I don't 1015 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 4: know what's going to happen. 1016 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 5: A lot of pressure. Are we scrambling? 1017 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 4: I know this, This this moment just means so much 1018 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 4: to Paul Calvic. 1019 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 2: Well, this moment, Tyree Stevenson is still Jawn, He's still joined, 1020 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: and I realizes the balls in the air. 1021 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,479 Speaker 6: Unbelievable caught for a hail Mary to end the game. 1022 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 5: You know what, who saw that comment? 1023 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 4: There's somebody from Chicago who's over here doing Chicago podcast 1024 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 4: and he just was live streaming that. He's talking to 1025 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 4: his phone while he's showing you that recording the television, 1026 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 4: so Paris fans know all about. 1027 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 2: It right now. I misspoke, Tyreek Stevenson. The hail Mary 1028 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,919 Speaker 2: epic fail that you guys just witnessed is number three 1029 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 2: in the Powerpole of Ineptitude. Ray Gun is number one. 1030 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: Nico Harrison has gone all the way up to two 1031 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 2: because apparently he's the MAVs GM. Yeah, he needs security 1032 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 2: detail on the road. It's so, I mean, that's how 1033 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,479 Speaker 2: bad it is. So there's your top three right now. 1034 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: So just to let you know, that's okay. 1035 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 5: That's fair. They've all deserved it. 1036 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh So back to Hooters. I guess Please. 1037 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 4: Tell me you're clipping that Elmo. You have to clip 1038 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 4: that one. 1039 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 6: Can we have like an out of context blooper reel 1040 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 6: or something? 1041 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: Is there a sound bite to go with this? Is 1042 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 2: that why we're no? Okay? 1043 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 4: All right? Oh my god? 1044 00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 5: Continue, hung room. 1045 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 2: So here's here's here's the here's the payoff that I avoided? 1046 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: Was or the the latest in the story. Danny gave 1047 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: the background. The latest is that a food delivery service 1048 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 2: that will take food right to your door, as offered 1049 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 2: to give Devin Booker free wings until or when Hooters 1050 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 2: closes for good. So there you go. That's that I 1051 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 2: can't about. 1052 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 4: It's one of those stories that you love feel good endings. Paul, Yeah, 1053 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 4: you really do. 1054 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna throw in my own wings for book. 1055 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw in my own on my own. Here 1056 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 2: we go winning behave you guys ready for this one? 1057 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: No one knows this one is coming ready Headline gen Z, 1058 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 2: battling with phone anxiety are now taking telephobia courses to 1059 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 2: learn the lost art of a phone call. 1060 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wow. 1061 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 2: Gen Z born between ninety seven and twenty twelve, there's 1062 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 2: struggling with telephobia, describing people who fear phone calls. It's 1063 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: a fear of anxiety around making and receiving phone calls 1064 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 2: because see gen Z apparently hasn't had the opportunity over 1065 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 2: the course of their lifetime to really develop this skill. 1066 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 2: It's a lost skill because they use their phone for 1067 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 2: anything except making or receiving a phone call. So there's 1068 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 2: a college now that is holding telephobia seminars where they 1069 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 2: simulate everyday scenarios where they start them out by making 1070 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 2: a call to make an appointment, call in sick to work. Okay, 1071 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: there's two aspects of this one. Apparently gen Z has 1072 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: been failing a job interviews because usually the first step 1073 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 2: is a phone interview and they're awful and they have 1074 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: serious anxiety. The twist, they say is that many of 1075 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 2: these same gen Zers are very comfortable on video calls 1076 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 2: because they can see the other person. They get anxiety 1077 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 2: when they can't see the other person because, according to 1078 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 2: the therapist quote, they think they're being laughed at when 1079 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 2: they can't see the other person. 1080 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 6: Daren don't give into their insecurities. 1081 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 4: You just missed that window, by the way, Danny telephobia. 1082 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 5: No, I don't have that. 1083 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 6: I do know people who don't like talking on the 1084 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 6: phone and don't like making appointments, which is yeah, crazy, 1085 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 6: but I believe that. Think of that age group and 1086 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 6: growing up with cell phones and social media your fingertips 1087 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 6: and even playing games on an iPad that's what they've 1088 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 6: grown up with. And the video calls, I mean, think 1089 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 6: of COVID and virtual learning and all of those things. 1090 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 6: That is pretty crazy though, that they have a. 1091 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 4: Course social interaction is just falling apart. 1092 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 6: What happened to the days of when you had to 1093 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 6: call a landline after school, You had to have your friends' 1094 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 6: numbers memorize, and then if they really have a phobia 1095 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 6: they want to work through, try being a little kid 1096 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 6: and your friend's parent answers the phone and you have 1097 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 6: to talk to the parent and ask if their kid 1098 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 6: is available to talk to you. 1099 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 4: What happened to the day when you had to like 1100 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 4: hope that your phone cord was long enough that you 1101 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 4: could take it around two corners and hide in the 1102 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 4: bathroom somebody because you didn't want everybody hearing your phone call. 1103 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go. That's that's winning behavior, you know, 1104 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 2: would be winning behavior. At the comment behavior. 1105 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 5: Your kids talk on the phone. 1106 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 2: Paul, uh, the fifteen year old does, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah, 1107 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 2: In fact, she's doing a lot more talking on the 1108 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 2: phone than she is homework based on her last quarterly report. 1109 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 4: So that'll not winning behavior. 1110 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 2: Not winning behavior. 1111 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 4: Behavior. 1112 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,720 Speaker 2: Not everyone can be Travis Hunter. That's another segue. That's schedule. 1113 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: So Travis Hunter, the Heisman winner, is scheduled to work 1114 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: out Friday. 1115 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 4: With the dbs. 1116 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 2: But are you guys aware that the organizers there at 1117 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 2: the Combine have invited him to spend an extra night 1118 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 2: and work out Saturday with the receivers. Supposedly he's thinking 1119 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 2: about it because it would make him the first true 1120 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 2: two way player in Combine history. 1121 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I'm a little surprised he's doing the workouts. 1122 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 4: I would have thought with somebody going to be a 1123 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 4: top five pick, then he'd just be like, I'm gonna 1124 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 4: stand loudly on my game. 1125 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 5: Has he made a statement that I haven't seen about 1126 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 5: a preference? 1127 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,919 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he wants to play both. I think 1128 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 4: the league is saying dB first, and yeah, he probably 1129 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 4: will play some receiver, but he's going to focus on 1130 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 4: dB first. I think that's kind of the thought process, 1131 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people that think Travis Hunter 1132 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 4: could be an all world defensive back. He'd be a 1133 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 4: really good receiver, but there's a lot of really good receivers. 1134 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think the Cardinals have to 1135 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 4: worry about Travis Hunter. That's just me. 1136 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 2: Well, Darren may I suggest humbly suggests that at some 1137 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 2: point you should connect with Roy Green. 1138 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and a good one. 1139 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 2: We brought Roy Green into a TV studio a couple 1140 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and that was one of the questions 1141 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,839 Speaker 2: I asked him. He had a fascinating answer about Travis Hunter, 1142 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 2: and basically he said what Danny said in that is, look, 1143 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 2: he probably should start a dB and be a full 1144 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 2: time defensive back. Mix him some receiver, but at no 1145 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 2: point can you go eighty or ninety snaps a game 1146 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 2: for a seventeen game regular season. That is not fe 1147 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 2: that is not plausible, that is not doable. So he 1148 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 2: is going to have to make a decision. But yeah, 1149 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: full time corner, and then you mix him in it 1150 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 2: as a weapon on certain key downs or in a 1151 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 2: package on offense. And he thinks Travis Hunter could be 1152 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 2: very successful at doing that because very few people, if 1153 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 2: any since Roy Green, have been viable in that role 1154 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,479 Speaker 2: right as anyone. I mean, Dion dabbled in it one 1155 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 2: season he had like thirty something catches. 1156 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 4: Troy Brown of the Patriots played it for a little 1157 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 4: bit of defensive back for a couple of years. He 1158 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 4: was a wide receiver. 1159 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 6: For that makes the most sense to be a dbian 1160 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 6: and sprinkling being a receiver when you're talking about having 1161 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 6: to understand the playbook and what would be asked of 1162 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 6: you and where you really need those reps to get comfortable? 1163 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 4: All right? 1164 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: Anything else? Any postcard items, anything notable, you know, memorable. 1165 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 2: Craig Griolo, is he, you know, behaving himself winning behaviors? 1166 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 6: He's typing something so at least he looks like he's working. 1167 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 5: Oh he's putting on a headset. Here we go. 1168 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, I think he needs to turn himself up. 1169 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 6: You know, we can't hear I won't people to see 1170 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 6: him on camera, but he's am I right, putting on 1171 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 6: a headset, so we still can't. 1172 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 4: Hear you can't you hear me? 1173 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 2: Now? 1174 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 4: Paul? Was it not? 1175 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 3: Was it not enough that I allowed you to come 1176 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 3: on the Red Sea Report earlier on Tuesday. Now, now 1177 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 3: you need me again for Cardinals Underground? 1178 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's it. 1179 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 4: I get it. 1180 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 5: You did a great job here last week. 1181 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 3: Crag, it's not just me missed. What do you need 1182 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 3: me again for this? Two straight weeks now, Paul? Do 1183 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 3: we just need to bump someone off? 1184 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 4: Now? 1185 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, it depends how many interviews do you have lined up? 1186 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 2: You know you got to earn your keep there on 1187 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 2: the road. How many interviews do you have worth? 1188 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 5: Three? 1189 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 3: We're three down with I believe seven to go. 1190 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 5: We were working hard on these cover two podcasts. 1191 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: You can name some names. Daniel Jeremiah Saw was one 1192 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 2: of them. Named. Some of the other names. 1193 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 7: You got, some luminaries, Dane Brugler, Jordan Reid, ESPN, Matt Miller, ESPN, 1194 00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 7: got Charles Davis scheduled on Wednesday, land zeer Line. 1195 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, some heavy hitters. 1196 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 4: I like it. 1197 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: I like it all right. 1198 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 4: All I know is that Craig got on one episode 1199 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 4: of Cardinals on around and now he can't help. 1200 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 7: Himself to borrow a phrase from you, Paul back in 1201 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 7: the day. I'm busy next week, so don't bother me. 1202 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll do all right. I get it, 1203 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: I get it all right, anything dinner plans, anything of 1204 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: note that. You know, we're trying to live vicariously through 1205 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: you guys on the road at the combine, you know, 1206 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 2: walking around rubbing. 1207 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 6: Shoulders, trying to be as busy and popular as Darren Urbana. 1208 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 4: We're having a group dinner tomorrow night, Paul, if you 1209 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 4: want to come on out, I don't know if you do. 1210 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 2: Though, I'll just make it like coach double rainbow. Just 1211 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 2: get my exit row seat, you know, and wander up 1212 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 2: to first class class. Yeah, you know, just wandering. 1213 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 4: So Tom Brady got tight with those those Las Vegas 1214 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 4: purse strings. 1215 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 5: I have time for a nap tomorrow. These days are long. 1216 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 6: We have a lot of content, so sit down with 1217 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 6: Scannon and all for We've got articles, podcasts, videos, all 1218 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 6: kinds of things. 1219 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 2: All right, So what Asycardinals dot com? YouTube dot com 1220 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 2: slashed Asycardinals and uh, I guess you know. That'll do it. 1221 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: You guys can go back to babysitting. Craig reelou there 1222 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 2: and well. 1223 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 4: Let's just turn eighteen, so we're gonna we're happy about that. 1224 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 2: Jackson just took off his headphone so that means we're done. 1225 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: That's his jackson. 1226 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 4: That jack is like, I want to go home. 1227 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 2: That's his low key saying the CALVC wrap it up 1228 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 2: and that'll do it. Here on Cardinals own and ground, 1229 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 2: brought to you by Pacific Office Automation