1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi. Everyone, 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: the bold and sometimes quirky choices we make. From her 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning turn as the brilliant and unconventional Elsbeth 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Tascone on the Good Wife and the Good Fight to 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: leading CBS's hit series Elsbeth, Carrie Preston has turned her 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: quirk into clarity and curiosity into power. Endlessly versatile, Carrie 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: has moved seamlessly between comedy and drama, television and film stage, 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: and directing from Elsbeth to True Blood and Clause to 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: The Holdovers. She has built a career defined not by 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: chasing trends, but by choosing roles that feel surprising and 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: emphasize individuality. That instinct continued to pay off this year, 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: earning her a Critics Choice Best Actress in a Comedy 14 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Series nomination. Offscreen, Carrie brings that same intentionality to how 15 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: she lives, Supporting all kinds of human rights, enjoying a 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: long and loving marriage with fellow actor Michael Emerson, and 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: in an industry that can reward bitter competition, Carrie quietly 18 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: has built a reputation for being gracious and kind. She 19 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: doesn't just play characters who choose themselves and others. She 20 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: lives it. So happy to have Carrie Preston with me today. 21 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: There's something I think that's really great about you is 22 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: that you and your husband, Michael Emerson have been together 23 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: for a good minute. 24 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 25 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: You both share life and creative work together. And I'm 26 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: sure over the is it twenty six years now? 27 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been married twenty seven. Yeah, we've been together 28 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: for thirty one. 29 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Wow, whoa wow, Hello, I'm praying, I'm bounce to you. 30 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm losing count, you know, I'm like, wait a minute, 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: wait a minute. What is it? Sort of like when 32 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: sometimes when people ask me what aide, how old are you? 33 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I think you know, it's it's like that 34 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: with with the with the marriage for sure, just you know, well, 35 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: first of all, time is flying by, and then second 36 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: of all he's just been such a steady that I 37 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I don't need you. 38 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: Know, Yes, I'm sure over the over all the years, 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: you've seen all the ups and downs of the life 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: of not just one actor, but two. Yes, being married 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: to another actor I means sharing a very uncertain industry, 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: one that comes with a lot of all the things, rejection, stress, 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: absurd schedules, not aligning, having to be in the public 44 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: eye so much of the time. How do you and 45 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: your husband choose to protect your marriage? 46 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are, you know, we're like that boring married couple, 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, And I'm saying we we like we we 48 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: we stay home when we can, we next together. Well, 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: we have you know, similar interests. We it's all those 50 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: things that you like learned in kindergarten, you know. We 51 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: we respect each other. We we say please, we say 52 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: thank you, We know how to share. You know. It's 53 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: just those things that help, you know, keep the marriage 54 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: going and keep and keep it protected because there is 55 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: that respect for each other, and there's that joy, and 56 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: there's that understanding of what the other one is doing, 57 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, supporting each other in choices. Oh, I want 58 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: to go and do a series. It's going to shoot 59 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: in another city for we don't know how long. Right, 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: how are we going to navigate the time of part? 61 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: We have like little rules, you know. We talk every day. 62 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: We're old school. We talk on the phone. 63 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Don't really be a telephone, you actually talk into it. 64 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: We talked into it like this. Wow, I know, it's weird. 65 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: We don't do the FaceTime. Well, I don't know, it's 66 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: just that's how we started. And so that's what feels 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: comfortable to us, is just the miihoring of the voice. 68 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: And we if we're apart, we try to see each 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: other at least every two weeks, you know. It's like 70 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: we rule and even if it's for a day, we 71 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: see each other. And somehow that seems do you have worked? 72 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's crazy because I'm sure both of 73 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: you are just moving a million miles an hour in 74 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: different directions a lot of the times. Yeah, but that 75 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: staying connected is so important. 76 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: It is, it is, and you know, it's it's interesting 77 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: this time, at this time in my life, I'm I'm 78 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: the super busy one, and he's the one that's kind 79 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: of enjoying not being busy, right, And that's has been 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: a wonderful balance for us because he is really great 81 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: at domestic things, like he takes care of the home 82 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: and our lives. And you know, he just brought me 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: lunch to make sure I was eating, you know, like 84 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: he's because he knows I'm I'm busy doing things for 85 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: the show and and and I like that he understands 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: the weird hours. He understands when you know, I have 87 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: to get up at four am and I, you know, 88 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: I have to go to bed at a certain hour, 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: or I'm always having lines or whatever it is. And 90 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: I think it helps that we both, you know, have 91 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: been in the same perfection and you know, we get 92 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: what those weird demands are. And then when we neither 93 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: one of us is working, we really take advantage of 94 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: that time together. Yeah. 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad it's working out for you being 96 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: married to an actor, because yeah, it was a little 97 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: challenging for me, but that's okay. I'm happy for you. 98 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, we don't really talk about the industry much. 99 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good idea. 100 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: And that's good idea. And you know, we watch each 101 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: other's work and just go amazing and then that's it. 102 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: You know. He we worked together. He came on Elsbeth 103 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: last season. He did ARC and it was funny because 104 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: they they you know, everybody loves Michael. He's brilliant. Yes, yes, oh, 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: let's figure out how to keep him on longer. And 106 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: Michael was like, I'm good. I like, I just want 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: to be in this amount, and then I want to 108 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: give the show back to Carrie and let her just 109 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: that's her show, and you know, and I want her 110 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: to I don't want to be a part, you know. 111 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: I only want to be a part of it to 112 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: a certain degree. And that was very healthy for us. 113 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: I think I love that. 114 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've played so many unconventional women who succeed by 115 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of leaning into what makes them different. Yeah. What 116 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: what such interesting choices? What was there a moment in 117 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: your own real life or even in your career when 118 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you consciously chose yourself over fitting into the mold. 119 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: I feel like all the time. You know, I had 120 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: an amazing I have an amazing mother, and I had 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: a very supportive childhood in encouraging me to be who 122 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: I am and to find whatever passion it is that 123 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: I want out of life. My mom's was a visual 124 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: artist and art therapist and so very supportive of letting 125 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: each of her kids be individual and who we are. 126 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: And so I feel like it was kind of inherent 127 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: in me from the get go to do that. And 128 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: when I fell in love with theater, I fell in 129 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: love with acting, there was never trying to talk me 130 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: out of it. You know, and even when I was 131 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: a kid and starting to do plays, when I was 132 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: like nine years old, I was wanted to play the 133 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: strange characters, the weird characters, the character characters I wanted 134 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: to play. You know, I didn't want to play Cinderella 135 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: or snow White. I wanted to play the ditsy maid 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: or the kookie fairy godmother. You know, I wanted those parts. 137 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know why. I mean, I don't know what. 138 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: It was like, they seem more fun, they. 139 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: Were more fun, and they got to do more interesting 140 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: things and so and I feel like I, you know, 141 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: was able to bring my own unique brand, even though 142 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, people like when I was in college and 143 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: even when I first got out in the industry, it 144 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: was like, oh, you're an angenue, you should don't play 145 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: the I was like, no, I don't want to do ingenue. 146 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to. I want to do 147 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: the you know, that's not who I feel like I 148 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: am on the inside. 149 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't match up, doesn't match up. So 150 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: good to know that about yourself at such an age too. 151 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, But the industry, you know, when when I was 152 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: certainly launched into it, I went to school for a 153 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 2: really long time. I really liked it. 154 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: You went to Juilliard, but I went to before that. 155 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: I went to college, so I was you know, I 156 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: was in school for like a solid eight years and 157 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: and and loved that. I liked the you know, the 158 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: kind of insular womb that it was, you know. And 159 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: then when I got catapuled it out into the industry 160 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: in the nineties, you know, it was very much about 161 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: what's on the outside. Oh yes, you know, as you know, 162 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: and I was just I just couldn't I just couldn't 163 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: quite just couldn't quite keep up with that, you know. 164 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: It was just like I just like didn't know how 165 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: to do that. So I, you know, just kept leaning 166 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: into you know, playing these fun supporting roles and a 167 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: lot of them ended up being comedic. And I found that, 168 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: you know, I that was something that I could offer, 169 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: and it would be the less pressure on on on 170 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: all whatever the requirements that you be on. 171 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,359 Speaker 1: The y the standards. 172 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: So what I would have hold on to that when 173 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: you say choose me, I would choose that, you know, say, no, 174 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm leaning into this, I'm choosing this right I want to. 175 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: That's what I feel like. I have to offer, you know, yeah, 176 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't really like the term 177 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: character actor because like, we're all characters. Yeah, you know 178 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like Joy Roberts is playing a character. 179 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: But you know that word I like to I like 180 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: to call us more like illusionists, you know, people who 181 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: are really illusionists, yeah, who want to create an illusion, 182 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: but being somebody different than them. 183 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: It sounds like you just always really stayed true to 184 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: your authenticity. And that's so admirable. Like even when the 185 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: industry wanted to change it, get rid of it, make 186 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: you do what everybody else was doing. 187 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: It's painful. It's painful, you know. I remember one time 188 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: I gotten you know, I was a theater girl, right, 189 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: So I was doing all this theater and I had 190 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: been in theater school and stuff, and I didn't know 191 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: what style. I didn't know about styling, I didn't know 192 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: about stylists, I didn't know about any of that stuff, 193 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: and so I would just sort of dress the way 194 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: I want to dress. And I had just gotten some 195 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: new clothes and I thought they were really cute, and 196 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, I did my makeup and my hair in 197 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: the way that I thought I looked pretty. And I 198 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: went into an audition and you know that, I got 199 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: a call from my agent, well, we have some feedback 200 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: for you, okay, And I was like, oh that I 201 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: hold the feedback. Yeah, I hate the feedback, you know. 202 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: I was like, you were great, you were like one 203 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: of the best actors. But they said you need to 204 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: start paying more attention to how you look, and okay, 205 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: I just I was like, what does that mean? Like, 206 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to I don't even know 207 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: how to do. And I said to my agent, I 208 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what to do with that, 209 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: and she was like, well, you know, maybe you should 210 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: get a stylist. And I was like, I can't afford 211 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: a stylist, you know. I couldn't afford to get somebody 212 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: who could do that. So I just had to like 213 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: live with that and then think, okay, well what does 214 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: that mean in terms of business. I guess it means, I, 215 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, I need to I don't know, change my 216 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: hair color and do a little I don't know, do 217 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: some stuff. 218 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: I noticed myself up a little. 219 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: Pitted myself up, and so I did that, and you know, 220 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: it's it's sort of worked. But I just love it 221 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that now I'm playing this woman who ELL's Betasi, who 222 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 2: dresses the way she wants to dress out. Now it's fabulous, 223 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: but it's not like anybody else is dressing. 224 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. 225 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: You know, doesn't know how to do her hair and 226 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: make up really, you know, she just does what she 227 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: can with her life. I just love that from that point, 228 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, that moment in my real life that it's 229 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: now lining up with I'm playing a character that was 230 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: doing the same thing that I was. That's so cool 231 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: doing them. 232 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's like full circle for you, full. 233 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: Circle fifteen years though of. 234 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: The same character Elisabeth. Oh, the course of three different shows. 235 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: Am I right on that? 236 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: You are right? Yes, What is. 237 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: The secret to this role's longevity? 238 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, well, in the Good Wife 239 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: and Good Fight, you know, she was just recurring, like 240 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: I would maybe play her once a year, if that. 241 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: I think I played her over the those two shows 242 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: maybe twenty times, nineteen twenty times over there, you know, 243 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: And that was fourteen years of you know their shows, 244 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: right right, seven seasons and another seven or six or 245 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: seven seasons. 246 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: So it's something about her. 247 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: And then just something about her. I think she just 248 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: has She's a very unique person. Her perspective on life 249 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: is unique. She's very positive, she's very present, she's very curious. 250 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: It brings a lot of energy and joy to her life. 251 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: I think it's a choice. I think she talk about choose. 252 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: She uses that. It's it is a decisive thing. It 253 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: is something that you have to work at to be 254 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: that way in the world. You know. I think our 255 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: tendency is to, you know, not be that, because why 256 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: you know, you you're opening yourself up more to being hurt, 257 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: to be judged, to be all those things. And this 258 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: is a woman who chooses, uh not to do that. 259 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: And I think that's infectious, and I think people it's 260 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: infectious for me to play her, but I think it's 261 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: also hopefully what brings people back to want to watch 262 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: her again. You know. Yes, yes, she makes things about 263 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: not herself, about she makes it about the other person, 264 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: about the problem, about the puzzle, about the mystery, about 265 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: the law, the legal case she's working on. It's always 266 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: about other things, which I think is it's kind of 267 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: a subversive way of choosing herself. 268 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, Her quirkiness is so fun because it's 269 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: never explained or apologize for no really is yeah, right? 270 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: And I think that it sounds like it was helpful 271 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: for you to kind of be in that unconventional sort 272 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: of state of mind. But do you think it's it's 273 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: helpful for the viewers too. It's something that they're noticing. 274 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: It's not something when you're unconventional, it's not something that 275 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: you need to hide from, but it's something that you 276 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: should protect and even highlight. 277 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think I think it's true. 278 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: And and but she's so singular, she's so unique, and 279 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: people like to ask me, you know, what does she have? 280 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: What is what is she on the spectrum? It's like 281 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: what's going on? They want to diagnose her and I 282 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: and we don't want to do that. 283 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, what do you say to her that while I. 284 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: Say we don't we she is who she is, She 285 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: is herself. She's not one thing. She's not a diagnosis. 286 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: And plus, you know, if you were to diagnose, you know, 287 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: you were to put like a diagnosis on somebody, then 288 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: it opens it up to oh, well, well that's not 289 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: really true, that's not that, that's not that thing, that's 290 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: not that thing. And instead I think it's it's more. 291 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: I think it's better in a way with this character 292 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: to let her be who she is as a statement 293 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: to let anybody be who they are. And you know, 294 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: what's so great about her is that people don't see 295 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: her coming, you know. And so when she's trying to, 296 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: you know, have a cat and mouse, she has a 297 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: cat and mouse with this with a killer, and she's 298 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: trying to get them to slip up and say a 299 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: thing they're going to because they are they don't know 300 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: what she's going to say next or do next. Throws 301 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: them off their game. It's unexpected, and I think hopefully 302 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: that's what keeps the viewer watching too, is that they 303 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: aren't expecting, right, And. 304 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: It's got to be a great way for you to 305 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: stay you know, like fresh and motivated, because you do 306 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: never know what's going to come up, what's going to. 307 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: Be right, Yes, it does, and you know, it's the 308 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 2: most material I've ever been trusted with for in such 309 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: a short amount of time, for twenty episodes. So it's 310 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm constantly my brain is constantly being engaged. I'm learning 311 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: fifty page of dialogue every eight days. I'm submerged, I'm 312 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: immersed in the world of this character and the world 313 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: of our set. And I love it. I mean, it's 314 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: a it's a wonderful creative gift, you know, able to 315 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: do that, and to be to be trusted with that 316 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: amount of material, and to be working with people who 317 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: are giving me such wonderful scripts to work with, you know, 318 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: It's it's like a once in a lifetime kind of 319 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: experience I'm having. 320 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: It's it's so great. Okay, So do you carry a tote? 321 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Do you? Okay, So I'm gonna show you. Actually I 322 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: got I. 323 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: Want to know what is in Carrie's tote as opposed 324 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: to what would be an Els tote. 325 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: So this is a tote bag that actually I work 326 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: with a tote bag designer on. 327 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so fun. 328 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: I know. I call it the carry it all the 329 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: A R I E. They carry it all? Cute? I 330 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: do I carry it all? I mean, this bag goes 331 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: with me everywhere, and I've got everything that I need 332 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: in it in the same way that Elsbeth does. You know, Okay, 333 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: I carry my day's worth of gosh. I have everything 334 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: in here, from hand sanitizer to and if I start 335 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: to get a cold, I have like dual defense I've 336 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: got like things, rollers, rollers, I got you know, get everything. 337 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like me, Like, I don't want to leave the 338 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: house because without all my things, because what I might 339 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: need something. 340 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had had kids, I don't know 341 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: what I would have. I mean I would have probably 342 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: had to have a whole nother you know, stroller or 343 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: something just to carry all the stuff. 344 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: I was much more organized when I had the kids, 345 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: like you know, their diaper bag or their whatever bag. 346 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: But now it's like the bigger the bag, the more 347 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: stuff I throw in it, and I have no idea 348 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: what's even in there anymore. 349 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: Well, see, this bag has lots of pockets, so I 350 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: do know where everything is. I like the I am 351 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: a pretty organized person. So that's why I like it, 352 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: because it has lots of bad places for all them. 353 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's a cute bag. So where if 354 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: somebody wanted to buy that is? 355 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 356 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: For sale? 357 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: It is Oh yeah, actually you can go to Yobi 358 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: mam Okay yob I Mocho Yobi and they have it's 359 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: called the Carry It All. 360 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: Uh so good. Yeah you did a low collab. I 361 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: did really fun. 362 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 363 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: What has playing such a fashionable and colorfully styled gal 364 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: done for your own fashion sense, has her style sort 365 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: of bled across into your real life. 366 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: I like to think that we kind of meet in 367 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: the middle, you know, because I always have been somebody 368 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: who is not afraid. So I always wore lots of color. 369 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean when I hid, my mom used to call 370 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: it humor dressing. She was like, oh, you're humor dressing again, 371 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: because I would wear like back, you know, some big 372 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: baggy parachute pant or something, and I'd wear some oversized, 373 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: you know, multicolored sweatshirt or and when I was really little, 374 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: I love to wear long dresses. I just wanted long dresses. 375 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: I thought it was just it was it was fun. 376 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: To to twirl around. Yeah. 377 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, even though no one else is everybody's wearing shorts 378 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: and long down I just loved it. So, you know, 379 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: I always had that tendency to want to have something 380 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: that's you know, this is fun chitahs, you know, a 381 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: little cheetahs on. Yeah, lots to have things that say, 382 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: say a thing. Then I started playing Elsbeth and the 383 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: brilliant Dan Lawson, who is our costume designer, who is 384 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: you know, it's an extraordinarily talented genius. Uh you know, 385 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: I just stand there like this and hands me the 386 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: character and has done that since day one. 387 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I love that when you can just count on somebody 388 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: that gets it. 389 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: He gets it, he understands the character. He'll he sends me, 390 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: you know, we have these epic fittings at the beginning 391 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: of the season. I mean like, I'll do a nine 392 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: hour fitting one day and the next day I'll do 393 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: like a six hour fitting. And and so he's building 394 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: up the closet for the season because we do twenty 395 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: episodes and it's I can't do a fitting every right, 396 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: you're busy. So he has got a whole closet and 397 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: and he he puts all the clothes together on on on, 398 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: He has a form that's that's uh, got my measurements 399 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: and he just puts them on. And then he sends 400 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: me photos and this is what you're wearing. And I 401 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: never doubt it, you know, I never die. I'm just like, yep, 402 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: great sounds good. Wow. Am I going to be able 403 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: to you know, move around in it? Yes? Okay, good, 404 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: you know, And and then I'll have these like little 405 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: you know, spot fittings throughout the season. If there's like 406 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: the Halloween episode or you know, which he went all 407 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: out on this year. I wore four different looks from 408 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: My Fair Lady, Audrey Hepburn's looks from My Fair Lady, 409 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: and they were all custom built. 410 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds fun. 411 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: It was amazing, amazing, you know, from the hats and 412 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: the whole thing. It was incredible. So you know this, uh, 413 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: this guy's amazing and and he understands, you know, he 414 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: understands like that the character needs the character dresses this 415 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: way because she it makes her feel good. You know, 416 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: she wants to go out into the world with an 417 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: an expression of on her body of what's going on 418 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: inside of her. But she also should be I think, 419 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: and she also knows that people underestimate that her. Yeah, right, 420 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: and so you know, as a superpower. 421 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: It's also another thing where they're like, wait, what's happening, 422 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: what's coming for me right now? I don't know what 423 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: this is. It's so colorful and very all these choices. 424 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: It's so good. Okay, so this is your third season, 425 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: right of Elsbeth. 426 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: This is the third season. 427 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: Yes, incredible, incredible, everybody check it out. It's out now. 428 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: So whatever rock we've been living under, get out from 429 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: under it and check out the show. It's so fun. 430 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: But you are also producing the show now along with 431 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: your show creators, which I think is amazing. How has 432 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: this new title change things for you? 433 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: I guess I just, you know, feel like I have 434 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: a formal voice. I always had a voice. Thankfully, the 435 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: people that I work with are very collaborative, they're very 436 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: and they're also very, very good at what they're doing. 437 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: John Tolan is our showrunner, is excellent, and so I 438 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: feel lucky that I already have people that are that 439 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: are able to receive what I say. But it just 440 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: became a little more formal, as you know, with that 441 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: producer producer credit. Yeah, And I mean, you know, when 442 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: you're an actor and you're on you know, you're playing 443 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: the title character, and you're on the show as much 444 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: as I am, in a way, you're already a producer 445 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: because you are producing what they're writing give the show. 446 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: You're producing it, you know, like you're standing there doing 447 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: it the level. 448 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, So congrats on that. I mean, that just opens 449 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: up a lot of doors for the future. But you, 450 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: because you seem like somebody that likes to grow and 451 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: likes to challenge yourself, you're not just an award winning actress. 452 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: You're an executive producer like we just mentioned, and you're 453 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: also a highly sought out director. Yeah, you directed, yes, 454 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: which is a crazy amount of energy, and I know 455 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: how hard that is, especially when you're acting and directing 456 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: at the same time. But you directed Your Honor with 457 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: Brian Cranston. Loved that show. I love the look of it. 458 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: I love the way it was directed and shot. Great job. 459 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which, if which episode you did, but 460 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: it's in general. 461 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: That show because I came on in the second season, 462 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: but the way they do it, it's, uh, you block 463 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: shoot two episodes simultaneously. So I was directing two episodes 464 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: at the same time. Oh boy. And so it was 465 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: really more like directing feature film because it was two 466 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: hours of television, right and uh but in a you know, 467 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: shorter amount of time than you get to direct. But uh, 468 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: the producers on that were very open. They really let 469 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: the directors be creative. They weren't prescriptive about these are 470 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: the only kinds of shots that we do, you know. 471 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: They were very what's your vision and they helped to 472 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: to help you bring that to life. And so I 473 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: felt I had a lot of creative agency with that, 474 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: which I like, Yeah, it was, and it was probably 475 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: the most challenging thing I've ever done as a director 476 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: just because of that. The two and both of the 477 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: episodes were different tonally. You know, one of them was 478 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: very high action pack and the other one was had 479 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more of like, uh, a slower pace, 480 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: more of a It was kind of the Denument in 481 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: a way. It was like coming down off of this 482 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: big high one that I had done. That must have 483 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: been hard to do. 484 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it shows it once, so you mean you're 485 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: like shooting one direction. 486 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, you're shooting more like its locations. So like when 487 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 2: we would go and this location, we would do all 488 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: the scenes that were in both episodes in that location, 489 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: and then we had to go It was set in 490 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: New Orleans, but we shot in a lot of it 491 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: in LA in season two, so you know, finding those 492 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: locations that look like New Orleans in LA you know 493 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: that kind of thing, and then we would go to 494 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: New Orleans for a week and shoot everything that we 495 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 2: needed to shoot in New Orleans for both episodes at 496 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: that scene. 497 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that takes a lot of mind management, going flopping 498 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: back and forth totally I. 499 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: Know, but I love that. I don't know, I'm kind 500 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: of I don't know, I'm weird about it, but I 501 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: guess I really like. It's like a math It's like 502 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: a huge math problem or something. 503 00:27:59,400 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 504 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: I enjoyed that, enjoy putting that puzzle together. 505 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: You are the puppet master. 506 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And also I just you know, I love actors, 507 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: and you know, they had some amazing actors on that show. 508 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: And to be able to you know, work with them 509 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: and help them and you know, and just you know, 510 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: see their work come to life, that was a great, 511 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: a great thing. Yeah. I don't know if I want 512 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: to direct Elsbeth because I'm just on screen so much. 513 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: I think it would I don't. I don't have that 514 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: much i'd send you over that I think it might 515 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: send me o it. Yeah, Well, is. 516 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: There anything more in the industry that is calling you? Like, 517 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: what's your next chapter look like? Do you think you 518 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: know what? 519 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm being totally honest right now that this is the 520 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: dream come true. So I really am doing my best 521 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: to be present with it, to take care of it it, 522 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: not overextend myself so that it gets compromised and focused 523 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: saying focused but also knowing that the stamina that it 524 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: takes really does require some downtime when I can get it, 525 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: and not feeling like I need to pile in a 526 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: bunch of work during my downtime. If we're lucky enough 527 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: to get a season four, I'll have three months off, 528 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily want to do something that takes 529 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: up those three months. I do need to refill the well, 530 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, because I really love this job and I 531 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: want it. I want to honor it and do it 532 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: just as in the best way. I know how. I'm 533 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: part of that is I've got to take kind of 534 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: take care of myself. Yeah. I think it's a you 535 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: know that more than anyone. 536 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: It's a marathon, and it's easy to just spend it all. Yeah, 537 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're like, whoa, Okay, 538 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to do this. 539 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you'll You'll use up your body budget. 540 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: You know, Shoot, it's I spent it. 541 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: How do you what does it look like for you, 542 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: like during a work week, how do you choose yourself 543 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: amidst that crazy schedule and all those demands. 544 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm very protective of my morning time, so I will 545 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: get up early, and it's tough when you have to 546 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: get up with something that starts with a four. 547 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: It was a brutal Yeah, I miss those days. 548 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: No, you don't. You don't miss them, but you know, 549 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: you'll get your you know, And I get up and 550 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: I always try to at least do twenty minutes of 551 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: pilates nice, get the body going, and then I'll do 552 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: a ten minute meditation every perspect that's that's enough. Yeah, 553 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: And that's like pretty much all I have time for. 554 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: I can't go to the gym. I can't, you know, 555 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: I'll work my plate's instructor, who's wonderful. She made me 556 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: these twenty minute videos that I can go to if 557 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: I can meet with her and online, I will if 558 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: I have, like you know, I happen to have a 559 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: morning free, I'm not in the first scene. I'll meet 560 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: up with her in person in the studio. But you know, 561 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: I definitely find that when I don't do that, my 562 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: body doesn't feel like it's ready for what it needs 563 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: to do that day. 564 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Right, right, it's you have to you're like a trained athlete. 565 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an athlete. Yeah, it's an an athlete, 566 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: especially with my character because the way I enjoyed playing 567 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: her is very physically. You know, she's embodies things, a 568 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: lot of energy. Not from Europe, it's the whole, you know, 569 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: head to toe experience. 570 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, I've loved getting to know you a little bit more. 571 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: But before we go, Yeah, Carrie Preston, what was your 572 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: last I Choose me moment? 573 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this morning, I knew I was had a 574 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: busy day, I had a me and so I got 575 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: up early, I made my smoothie, I meditated, and I 576 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: just chose to do absolutely nothing for an hour. And 577 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: it was an important thing because then it lined me 578 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: up and grounded me for what I had to do today. 579 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: It's busy right now, New York City is insane, and 580 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: doing nothing for me is not the easiest thing to 581 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: do because I'm such a doer too, and so it 582 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: was a way to choose me. You know, it was 583 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: something that I think I would maybe not normally do. 584 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean I could do it for ten minutes, but 585 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: for an hour that was tough. Yeah, that's like. 586 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: An hour long meditation you did this morning basically. 587 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so good. 588 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, just the best advice. I love everything you're about 589 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited for everything that's in store for 590 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: you. You deserve it all. You're a good person. Carrie comes 591 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: back with her colorfully enthusiastic Elsbeth on February twenty six, 592 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: and please come back here for more of my conversation 593 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: with Carrie Preston, when we jump into the challenges and 594 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: advantages of aging on camera. Subscribe to this pod now 595 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: to get notified when it drops.