1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one with Mark and Craig, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: the pop bulars that Law, Blue and Joe Grande, but 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: just me Joe and big brother today, Joe. What's going on? Well, 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening to the podcast all around 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: the world. We greatly appreciate you. Ever want to be 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: a part of the show and leave us a voicemail. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: It's eight dight. That's eight d eight. 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But Blue, we love you, we miss you. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: But we have a very special guest today on the show. Amanda. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: She is from Las Vegas. She's a native of professional 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: career of over fifteen years out there in the valley. 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: She's been working in the cannabis industry for the last 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: five years and after being a patient and advocate for 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: many years. In September of two thousand nineteen, she woke 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: up in the emergency room at Sunrise handcuffed to the 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: hospital bed. What the hell. In February two thousand nineteen, 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: upon waking up, she had her very first seizure. Now, 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: after further testing was done, she was diagnosed with epilepsy. 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: She was a previous cannabis patient and started consuming a 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: concentrated form of cannabis known as RSO, which I'm not 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: familiar with and I can't wait for you, Amanda to 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: tell us exactly what that is for her epilepsy. The 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: last thing she remembered was the intersection at Desert Inn 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: and Nellis. I think I remember that intersection to seeing 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Mark dressed up in a dress. But to whole another story. 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: After leaving work at our cannabis cultivation facility around three pm. 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: So Amanda, we find you apparently because my buddy here, 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Mr Mark Washerman, is this uh from the app Well, 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I I think it might have started with Clubhouse, right, Yeah. 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: So I've been all over Clubhouse, all different rooms, letting 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: people know what we're doing and how we're referring people 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: to attorneys all over the world and creating this worldwide 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: attorney referral network. And I pop in and out of 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: rooms tell what we do, and people start connecting with us. Hey, 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: I need an attorney over here for this. And we've 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: gotten a lot of calls, but we got this one, 49 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: particularly from Amanda, that really struck a nerve with us 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: because she's looking at a cannabis Well, no, you are convicted, 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: right we I mean, we'll get through the whole story 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: and how things are just now maybe at the beginning 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: and starting over hopefully, But this is a story of 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: a state that is making ridiculous laws about how much 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: cannabis you can have in your blood, bananograms, ridiculous laws, 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: and ridiculous things that you will see attorneys do when 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: representing people in the cannabis space when they should not be. 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: So I'll just with that, you know, Joe we can start. So, yeah, 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: that that all being said, Amanda, tell us a little 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: bit more about your story and what happened. I know 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I read and gave kind of the cliff notes, but 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: walk us down. Well, basically, I had just left my 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: cultivation facility. UM. I like work in the industry. UM, 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: So I left my cultivation facility, headed at home for 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: the day, and basically, you know, as as you mentioned, 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I literally was just driving down the street. UM. And 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I woke up in the hospital. UM. I knew instantly 68 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: that I had his seizure because the pounding in my 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: head and the um the bite marks on my tongue 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: was something I had experienced before. UM. And I knew 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: instantly that I had a seizure. UM. But it took 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: me just a couple of minutes to realize that I 73 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: must have been driving, because all of a sudden, I 74 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: noticed the officers standing next to my stretcher, who immediately 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 1: starts questioning, questioning me. UM and you know, basically tells 76 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: me that I was actually seen UM driving towards the sidewalk. 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: A product or not a pedestrian, but a good samaritan 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: saw me and proceeded to pit my vehicle and go 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: in front of my vehicle and stop my vehicle. Uh, 80 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: he was on the phone nine one, but he saw 81 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: an officer and slagged her down. Um where they tried to, 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, get my attention. Obviously, my windows were rolled 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: up and my car was locked. They were banging on 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: the window. Um supposedly, I guess at one point I 85 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: came to some sort of um, you know reality I was. 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't remember it, but I basically rolled down the 87 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: window where they were able to you know, go ahead 88 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: and get me out and contact the medic and transport 89 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: me to Sunrise, which where I kind of woke up 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: and came to everything. I didn't remember anything prior to that. 91 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: So you wake up at the hospital. What's that feel 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: like when you realize you are handcuffed? Um? Well, to 93 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: be completely honest, it was, um the scariest thing that 94 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: I've ever experienced in my entire life. Um. I actually 95 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: know somebody that had a seizure behind the wheel and 96 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: actually killed a couple of people. So my literally, my 97 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: world just kind of started spinning and I I'm a 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: very emotional person, so I immediately started crying. And the 99 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: first thing I asked the officer was did I hurt anyone? Um? 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: And she completely honest with you. She wouldn't even answer me. Uh. 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: She she said, do you do you understand that we 102 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: were banging on your window, me and my part banging 103 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: on your car. You could have killed someone, You could 104 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: have you could have cost an accident. Um. You know, 105 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: just proceeded with question after and to be frank, judgment 106 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: after judgment. Um. He said, you know you you smell 107 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: like marijuana. And I said, well, I worked in a cultivation. 108 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Of course I do, man that you know what? You 109 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: know what, let me say that this, this is what 110 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: some of these police officers do. You know, they jumped 111 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: to all sorts of conclusions and here's a woman. But 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: you can't really blame that. I just want to back up, 113 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: so you can't blame the police. There was a car 114 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: there was a car accident. Hold on, hold on, there 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: was a car accident. You shouldn't be questioning anybody after 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: they've been in a car accident. And there, you know, 117 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: obviously I think you should question somebody after a car accident. 118 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: If somebody gets in a car accident, they're dazed and confused, 119 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: how is that going to be helpful? Because you have 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to wag about what happened. Yeah, but you I'm not 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: saying hospital, hospital, handcuffed with And that's what they do 122 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: to intimidate and scare. And let's get this person to 123 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: say something that's gonna incriminate herself even though you don't 124 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: even know what happened. Not only that, isn't that bullshit 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: to like she wakes up to see the cop, Like 126 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: what did you wake up to see the doctor? Like 127 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: to tell me what happened? I mean, you don't even 128 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: know what happened, obviously, but you know, and and everyone's 129 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: defense maybe that's that's that's a cop who still has 130 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: the refer mannace mentality. And you smell weed and obviously 131 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: someone went crazy by smoking. Even if you smoke, you know, 132 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: it's just that refer mentality stills out there. And that's 133 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: what that was. Just total immediate judgment, immediate jury, immediate judge, 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: immediate trial, and guilty because she smelled like fucking cannabis, 135 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: like oh my god, like judging like instead of a 136 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: being a like how are you are you okay? Compas 137 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: sho't how about some compassion and maybe a little bit, 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: maybe a little sympathy of not knowing what happened, and 139 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: here here's my car. When you're released from the hospital 140 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: and you feel better, let's talk. Maybe you'll remember. How 141 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: about give that to the nurses and doctors and say, hey, 142 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: when this lady wakes up, we found her. I d 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: When Amanda wakes up, have her give us a call, 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: you guys, give us a call so we can question 145 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: her when she's coherent and able to speak normal. Because 146 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: do you know, Amanda, how long when you were rolling 147 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: over you remember that corner and then you woke up 148 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: in the hospital. What was that time length? Um? Well, um, 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: according to some of the reports, you know, because of 150 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: course they lost what time they drew my blood and 151 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: everything like that. Um. And also speaking to my family 152 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: because my partner was expecting me home and I didn't 153 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: come home. UM. So she checked my location and saw 154 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: that I was at the hospital, proceeded to call my 155 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: boss and able to rush to the hospital. UH. And basically, um, 156 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: it was a proxim atly an hour um until I 157 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: It was about forty five minutes until I came to 158 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: and realize what happened. I was out kind of in 159 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: whatever land that is, uh, for about forty five minutes, UM. 160 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: And eventually she gave me my phone and let me 161 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: let let me contact my partner, UM and my my 162 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: my family to let you know where that I where 163 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: it was. UM. And when they all came rushing to 164 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: my side, the cup was still there. And it wasn't 165 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: until the sergeant came and ordered the officer to remove 166 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: my handcuffs that um, things changed and they you know, 167 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: I honestly thought that I was going to jail. So 168 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the sergeant then came and did the right thing. It 169 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: sounds like the sergeant stepped in and kind of because 170 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: if you really think about a forty five minutes, isn't 171 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: that long at all from when you first from hearing 172 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: that that's the time. That's that's a great amount of 173 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: time to get this person to the hospital and then 174 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: being a hospital bed and be waking up wake up 175 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: on her own. That's actually a decent I think that's fast, 176 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: and that's makes me happy for your safety at least. 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: So when the sergeant comes, then does the whole tone 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: change a little bit or what goes on at that point? 179 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: The tone does change. UM, Once my family got there, UM, 180 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: one of my sister, I'm actually I'm not sure if 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: it was my sister and Mike partner. One of them 182 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: like kind of pulled the oster to the side. I 183 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: had have been my boss, because he was He's a 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: good talker. He can talk to you know, anyone out 185 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: of anything. Um. And basically he UM. They got the 186 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: cop to the side and they let my family come 187 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: and you know, be with me. Um. And that's when 188 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, the sergeant officer also went off to the side. UM. 189 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: And then she of course came back and she said, 190 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: you know, UM, got a warm We're going to draw 191 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: your blood. UM. And that's when I just was like, 192 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: I knew kind of after the fact that I as 193 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: as mark as you teach him, I had incriminated myself 194 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: because I did tell her that I had consumed Cannis 195 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the night before. UM and UM. Yeah, so that's when 196 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the tone kind of changed. They drew my blood and 197 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: they let me go. I actually did have a big 198 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: pen with me that was CBD and a little bit 199 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: of TC, and she counted it back to me. She said, 200 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: if this is only CBD, I'm gonna give this back 201 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: to you, and I said thank you, and they love 202 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: and I basically went hold with my family all right. 203 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: So that happened. Hold on that. That's a that's a 204 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: good spot to uh take a little break, and when 205 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll get to the part of this 206 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: where now you're you're going to start looking for an 207 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: attorney to help you out. So when we come back, 208 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when we're gonna look for that 209 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: cannabis d u I attorney. We'll be right back after 210 00:11:42,640 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: this break. Welcome back to Canada. Talk what I want. 211 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I beat you there too with their big guy now. 212 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: And I only beat you there to it because I 213 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: know you want to get to the attorney side stuff, 214 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: and I want to get there too, But I want 215 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: to get two more. How did you know that it 216 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: was an epilepsy? What did they do? What did they 217 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: you know? Walk me through that? And and I also 218 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: want to ask was it friends Finder that your partner, 219 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: because my wife and I we use friends Finder all 220 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: the time. And it's just like an applaud for like 221 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: couples who do that, because it's so like important in 222 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: my book. And hearing you say that, dude, like makes 223 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: me go, that's exactly why we share our locations with 224 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: each other, because if she's not home by a certain time, 225 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at it, or vice versa. You know 226 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, She's gonna look at where I'm at. 227 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: And last night I was ironically in Beverly Hills and 228 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, you're right there for next 229 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: to sunset, But I was, and it's just it's cool 230 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: to you. So we're you're using friends finders or something else. 231 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: We were. Actually we we had it on both to 232 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: find my friends as well as just to share my 233 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: location through the iPhone. Perfect. Yeah, folks, if you're not 234 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: doing that and don't know about that, you should do 235 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: that with your loved ones, because I think this is 236 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: a perfect scenario in case that your partners seeing that 237 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: and then went to the hospital without even talking to you. Like, 238 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: knowing where your location is is amazing. So how do 239 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: we know that we're talking to Amanda? How did we 240 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: find out it was epilepsy UM? Well, as I mentioned, 241 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: I had had one previous seizure before UM, and the 242 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: headache after a seizure is not something I've ever experienced 243 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: before other than when i've had them UM, I've only 244 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: had the two one prior and then wondering, you know, 245 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: in September and um. Like I said, I had this 246 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: headache that was just like almost incapacitating as well as 247 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: bite works on both sides of my towne UM. I 248 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: had been diagnosed, like I said, a couple of months 249 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: prior to that, with epilepsy UM. And basically the doctor 250 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: came and he you know, he looked at my tongue, 251 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: he looked at my state and just everything that you 252 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: know I had, um, you know, all my vitals and 253 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: things like that. And then he also was able to 254 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: pull the records from another hospital saying that I have 255 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: the same exact situation in February UM. And he actually 256 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: did put in the discharge papers that I had a feature. 257 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: And when you're there at the hospital, your partner comes, 258 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: some family members come, the cops change your tone. How 259 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: long before they actually let you go? Like, did you 260 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: have to sit there and do more stuff with them? No, 261 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: it was basically after they drew my blood and took 262 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: it with them that that was. That was when they left. 263 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: So Mark, let me ask you from the legal side, 264 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: once they have their blood, they could hit her with 265 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: a d U I charge later, they don't have to 266 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: keep her right there and there it sounds alcohol well, yeah, 267 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: it sounds like they'd leave you with a citation at 268 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: the hospital. Yeah. So so that's called a site and release, 269 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: where so instead of taking her into custody, waiting for 270 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: her to be released and take her in and booking 271 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: her and doing all that which they could have, they 272 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: just really like getting a speeding ticket or a traffic ticket, 273 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: you just get the citation here it is you promised 274 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: to appear, and then you have a court date and 275 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: so and that would be the arraignment, which was probably two, 276 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: three or four months later, maybe longer because of covid um. 277 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: But so you have an arraignment date set and you 278 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: just you know, you have to get an attorney. Let's 279 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: talk about your search for an attorney. How how did 280 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: that go? How did it start? Um? Well, initially I 281 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: was I was kind of waiting because I thought that 282 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I might get lucky, Maybe they won't file the charges. Maybe, um, 283 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, so I have to be honest, I was. 284 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: I was kind of putting it off. And once I 285 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: got the paperwork, I you know, started kind of just 286 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: networking through a couple of friends and family and asking 287 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: a couple of different people. Um, I had a friendly 288 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: suggest a certain lawyer um, and said, you know, I've 289 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: used him more than once in the past. He's a 290 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: great attorney. UM. And I basically did a consult with 291 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: him and one other and decided to go with him. Um. 292 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: It was to be frank, it was cheaper. UM. And 293 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: I I thought, I've never been in trouble before, and 294 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: I've got this in the bag. I've got to referral this. 295 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: You know. My friend said he's gonna take care of me. 296 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. And that happens quite a bit. I mean, 297 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: I know, we get referrals art that tell them that 298 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: about us, you know. And so when you went and 299 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: so you can you know, we're learning here. As we've 300 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: talked about this with other people, you gotta take stuff 301 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: like that still with a grain of salt and do 302 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: your own little research as much as you can. But 303 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: when you were consulting with these attorneys, did you find 304 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: yourself asking them questions? Oh? Definitely. So so let me 305 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: ask you. So, the guy who you ultimately retained, what 306 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of questions did you ask him that you thought 307 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: would serve you in determining whether or not you were 308 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: going to hire him? Um, I asked him. I said, 309 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, UM, I am not gonna I told him 310 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: initially from the very beginning, I'm not going to take 311 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: a deal. I'm not going to you know, lay down 312 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: and I'm just not going to do it. I will 313 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: take this as long as I have to. If we 314 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: have to put this out, you know, more than you know, 315 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: push it out for the time length to prove that 316 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I haven't been in trouble and you know what have you, 317 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: I will do whatever I can. And I kind of 318 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: came at him like that to begin with, um and 319 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: I basically just said, you know, UM, I had nothing 320 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: else in my system. Do you do you think I 321 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: have a shot here? UM, I have epilepsy. I brought 322 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: my you know, all my medical paperwork with me to 323 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: my consul um and he took copies of all of that. 324 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: And to be completely honest and to kind of start, 325 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: let me just back up and start with the fact 326 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: that I was extremely naive. UM and I one of 327 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: the reasons I'm wanting to do this to be is 328 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: I want to make sure nobody else, you know it 329 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: does that. And UM, I didn't ask a lot of questions. 330 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: I kind of just you know, laid on the facts, 331 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: and UM, you know, the only thing that he really 332 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: asked me was like, have you been in trouble before? Um, 333 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, where do you work? How long have you 334 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: been in your employer? To kind of facts about myself? 335 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Um never. We never really dove into, you know, the 336 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: nanogram limit and what epilepsy looks like after a seizure 337 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: and things like that. What experts did he suggest you 338 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: use at trial? None? Is this a case like something 339 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: like this that you've taken on here? Mark? Yeah, I 340 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: mean cannabis dues are very difficult for the prosecution to prove. Now. 341 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: Things are much different in Nevada, where they have this 342 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: fuck up law that it's too now, I'm sorry. It's 343 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: two nanograms, right, two nagrams and you're impaired if you 344 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: drew my blood right now. I don't even know a thousand. 345 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know, you know. I mean, in fact, 346 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting a bunch of tests on for allergy stuff 347 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: and I'm having my doctor. I want you to run 348 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: my nanogram count because I want to know. I want 349 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: to know. But this arbitrary number that they've pulled out 350 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: of somebody's ass, and this is a person who unfortunately 351 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: said I smoked last night, right, that's what that was 352 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: the extent of what you said. So so I'm sure 353 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: that came up in in in the course of the 354 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: trial and jurorsy, oh my god, she smoked last night 355 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: and J's christ must last for twelve hours. Holy ship. 356 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, So on that line alone, 357 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: can I come back if I'm a mann, say I 358 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: met I smoked CBD, No, I think the blood has 359 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: been drawn, you know, so she's had. She either doesn't matter, 360 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We weave they lie on top of 361 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: the didny night? Maybe more lies more like STFU. No, 362 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: So so it it's you can see, I get it. 363 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating, and I feel so bad for you 364 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: that you're going through this and because you had and 365 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard this ineffective counsel, which is probably 366 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: not I don't do appeals or anything, but I know 367 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: that's a basis foreign appeal and you know, getting a 368 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: cannabis expert to be able to explain to a jury that, yeah, 369 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: this is how much this person medicates because she's a 370 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: cannabis patient. This is what she used throughout the day, 371 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: throughout the month, throughout the week, and this is why 372 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: her nanogram count is what it is. It's not has 373 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: nothing to do with impairment. And the whole reason this 374 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: accident happened was the apple. Where's the medical doctor to 375 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: testify about your epileptic seizure that you had behind the wheel? 376 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: And so this this Are you still with the attorney? 377 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: I say, this's over, it's all over. We we didn't 378 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: get well, okay, I know that. Well we'll get there. 379 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: We we kind of got ahead. I think you're alluding 380 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: it by the way you're saying this. You're not walking 381 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: down the story. So alright, so so so. But what 382 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: I want to illustrate, and what Amanda is so kind 383 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: of to be doing this and so to open eyes 384 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: everybody else who's out there, is that when you go 385 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: to any attorney, whatever you're looking for, do your own 386 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: little bit of research, find out what you can Google. 387 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Google's got everything, and then ask the questions. You know, 388 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: but it's so hard in your defense, Amanda, like you know, 389 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: if you haven't gone through it before, you're just driving home. 390 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: You just want to go home to your partner, see 391 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: your fucking dog. Whatever it is. It's like, oh, I 392 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: don't have I've never been arrested before. I don't have 393 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: experience talking with lawyers and what type of lawyer I 394 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: need to have. And it's not a normal quote unquote thing, 395 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: which is why it's so important to do this. So 396 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: the next person that it happens to is going to 397 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: be wait, I heard that story. You know, I'm gonna 398 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: shut the funk up, you know, how about this and 399 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: what questions should a person like Amanda or Amanda should have? 400 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: But somebody gets a this is used exactly her scenario. 401 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Somebody has an epilepsy seizure and fucking gets pulled over 402 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: and gets into an accident. Whatever happens, she got into it, 403 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: she pulled over, hit the curb. Did you actually hit 404 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: another car or the car stopped you with their car? 405 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Car stop with their car? Hit nothing, no damage, but 406 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: no damage though that you didn't hit it. You know, 407 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: Fender Banner's no insurance, which is even fucking work like, 408 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: no big deal. It's a no big deal one, thank god. 409 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: So let's just play this whole one out. I mean, 410 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: you'd like to make it worse, just to make it crazier. 411 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: She you know, dent in four cars or something. But 412 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: that happens, What should this person do Amanda should have 413 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: done in the circumstances. So she did what I would recommend, 414 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: ask somebody you know to give you a referral. I 415 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: mean that's always going to be still the best. I 416 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: still recommend it even in this situation. But you can't 417 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: rest on that alone. And so when you're going into 418 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: an attorney to ask about something, so for instance, this 419 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: cannabis do you I you know, how many cannabis do 420 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I cases have you done? How many cannabis do you 421 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: watch that one, Amanda? How many cannabis DUI trials have 422 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: you done? What you know? What experts do you in 423 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: any any case and not just cannabis? What experts do 424 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: you use for this? And those types of questions? Will 425 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna give responses either, like you know 426 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: you ask me questions like that, uh, rapid fire responses. 427 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: Cause I've been doing this for twenty five years and 428 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: i know what I'm talking about. I know the experts 429 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use, and I know how many cases I've done, 430 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: and I know you know, I know all that. And 431 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: so when you're talking to an attorney and you're asking 432 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: questions and him, um, I don't, well, then you know 433 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: you'll those types of things you can take away as 434 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: maybe this person doesn't know as much as they should know, 435 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: you know. So Amanda grabs him, order to take a 436 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: break real quick, and we come back. Amanda, I want 437 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to hear what happened at the trial. It's Cannabis Talk 438 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: one oh one. H take a hit, get lit, and 439 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: sit back and enjoy Cannabis Talk one oh one with 440 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: Martin Gregg, Pop Brothers that law, Blue and Joe Grande 441 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: and Amanda. We're gonna get into the trial, right So, 442 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: so approximately that automatically go to you know, I mean 443 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: there was there was an arraignment, there was pre trials, 444 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: there was you know, there was stuff in between. I 445 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: don't even think we need to talk about it. It's 446 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: just no, here's here's my guess. All this stuff happened 447 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: in the middle. Amanda was kind of kept in the 448 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: dark by her attorney. She didn't really know what was 449 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: going on. He kept saying, I'm going to your court 450 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: for you here, here, I'm going there, and then one day, oh, 451 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: we're going to trial. Dirtbag court judge, our dirt bag 452 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: attorneys like that. That just make guys like yes, and 453 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: what I just said and she said, yes, that's what happened. 454 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Tells you that I've seen this many times before, and 455 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: it is attorneys like that that give attorneys a bad name. 456 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: So all right, so you you show up for the 457 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: day of trial, Walker Stewart. Um, well, I go, and 458 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: I obviously come face to face with my attorney and 459 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: we start talking. Um. Can I wait, let me let 460 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: me ask one more question prior to the day of trial. Well, 461 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: you just said I came face to face with my attorney. 462 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: When was the last time you had been zoom to zoom, 463 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: face to face or discussed this matter with him before 464 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: the trial? Um. We had discussed it over the phone. Um. 465 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: And honestly, that was the first time I had saw 466 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: him again. UM, since like I met with him, it's 467 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: in the beginning, face to face. UM. And that was it. 468 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: We did not have any meetings as after, you know, 469 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: any motions were filed after anything. That was the first 470 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: time I saw him. I had a conversation with him 471 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: one prior over the phone and it was simply here 472 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: at this time. UM, that was pretty much it. And 473 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: he could tell me, he said, if you're not going 474 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: to take the deal, you need to be there that's 475 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: all he said. Hold on, what was the deal? The 476 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: deal was that I basically take a d y charge 477 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: um and I do. Um. It was a lower fine, 478 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: they said, So it was a six and something dollar fine. Um. 479 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: It was literally the same deal that they offered me 480 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: the first time. No changes, any jail time, no jail time. Now, 481 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: what did your attorney tell you? If you go to 482 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: trial and lose, you'd be looking at um? He said. 483 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: If you go to trial and lose, he said, there's 484 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: a possibility that the judge could um initiate the two 485 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: day jail time that you never served. Um. And that 486 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: was literally all he said as far as like, what 487 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: could happen that day? Um, I asked him. I said if. 488 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: And that's when I kind of got an inclination of like, okay, wait, lose, waiting, 489 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, kind of panic and this is a trial. 490 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: But why would you think lose? When they looked at 491 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: your blood? How many nanograms of tech he did, having 492 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: it um more than nine nanograms? Oh so the two 493 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: so it's over nine, which you can easily argue down well, 494 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: if you had an expert, Yeah, you had an expert 495 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: to explain though there's nine when the state has too. 496 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: So you're looking like a bad with no good lawyer. 497 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: So you're going to trial. What happens? Um? He proceeds 498 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: to tell me that if we lose, he does not 499 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: do appeals. Whoa, whoa wait, whoa hey ho ha. He 500 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't tell you this at the initial consultation. Okay, so 501 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: this so so so that me and we don't do appeals. 502 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: But we make that and it's in our retainers too 503 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: that say we don't do appeal. So you know, if 504 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: if things go south, you know, we'll help you find 505 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: an appellet attorney, but we don't do it. And this 506 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: guy's telling you this the day of the trial. As 507 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: he's telling you, if you don't take the deal, Jesus Christ, 508 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: did you have to pay him upfront? Of course? How 509 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: do you mind? How much did you pay him? I 510 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: paid him? Uh? It was around two thousand dollars? Was that? All? 511 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: That was? That? The total? That was the total? Um 512 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: it was originally going to be. Um, he originally wanted 513 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: to charge me for because I was preferred it was, 514 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: and because I had cash its too. Okay, that's a 515 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: good down. And then what happens in court? Now, Um, Basically, 516 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: we proceed to go through the whole thing. UM. I 517 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: do want to add in wortle part, and I really 518 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: have to say I think they did it on purpose. 519 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: They shoved me into the courtroom literally almost ten minutes 520 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: prior to anyone else except for the marshal being in 521 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: the courtroom. UM. I thought it was very odd, and 522 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: they told me to turn off my phone. UM. I 523 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: talked to one other lawyer and she said, they got 524 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: a purpose to make you nervous and to make you 525 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: it's part of the process. Um. Where was your attorney 526 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: when that was happening. Um, he was outside the courtroom, 527 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: not with me. I wish that I would have turned 528 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: my phone back on because message from my brother in 529 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: law telling me to fire him. So. But basically, child 530 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: proceeds and they start bringing in the witnesses. They brought 531 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: in the officer, UM, as well as the nurse that 532 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: drew my blood, as well as the scientist who ran 533 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: the test on my blood. So they had an expert scientist, 534 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: but you didn't yes, wow, yes, So what did they say? 535 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: What do they do? What? They make you seem like 536 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: you the biggest druggie in the world are what? Yes? Um? 537 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: They the prosecutor said, you know, we don't know that 538 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: she didn't smoke that day. Um. She They basically just 539 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: said that there's no arguable, um, this is not an 540 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: impairment that The closing argument was that this is not 541 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: an impairment or a medical issue. This is an impairment issue. UM. 542 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: And regardless of procedure, that day, she was impaired. UM. 543 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: And the one part of the trial that I thought 544 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: was very interesting was when the officer proceeded to lie 545 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: on the stand about being having baggies of marijuana on me, 546 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: which I never had. I had no cannabis other than 547 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: the CBD pen that she gave back to me in 548 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the hospital. UM. So they basically said that the officer said, 549 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: there was a bag of marijuana in my purse, and 550 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: with the smell and seeing the bag is the reason 551 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: that she felt it necessary to, um, you know, cite 552 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: me for possible d u. I. They proceeded, and then 553 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: your your your attorney then cross examined and said, where's 554 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: pictures of that? Where's a book into evidence? Where is it? 555 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: He did not object. You sat there. He just sat there. 556 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: And I actually wrote down on a paper and I said, 557 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: where's the evidence question mark. I looked at him and 558 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: was like, and he said it didn't matter because, um, 559 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: you know that they're arguing impaired. This has that has 560 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, really, Um. But the jury 561 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: gets to hear that you're you have nanigrants and you 562 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: have all these bags and Jesus Christ talk about it 563 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: gets worse and worse. What else? Um? They Honestly, the 564 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: only I felt like the only person in the entire 565 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: room that had my back was the nurse who kind 566 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: of tried to argue that I she did not I 567 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: didn't seem impaired. Um. They asked, was I struggling? Was 568 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: I was I? You know? Did I seem you know? 569 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: Did I did have Did she have to struggle to 570 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: draw my blood? And she proceeded to answer no. Um. 571 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: And the other thing the officer did say that I 572 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: thought was interesting was that she said that every time I, 573 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: every time she asked me a question, that I would 574 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: not answer it directly and then proceed to stare at 575 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: the wall. But I remember a full conversation with this 576 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: officer in the hospital. Um. That's why I remember her 577 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: face so vividly. So I thought it was very interesting. 578 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: How um the officer lied on more than one, in 579 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, more than one, you know, and your attorney 580 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: didn't do anything to cross examine and try to expose 581 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: those lies. No. The only time that he um, he 582 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: crossed examined to her, of course. UM. And he noted that, 583 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, in her report under blurry eyes, she didn't 584 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: write that I had blurry eyes. And she didn't write 585 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: that I had, um, you know, any any like any 586 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: other like green tongue or any other things besides smelling 587 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: like cannabis. Um. And that was pretty much where he tried. 588 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: That was like where his argument stopped, to be honest 589 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: with you, and then he started going to that's all, folks, 590 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: what an idiot he this lawyer is. Um? What happens in? 591 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: How did come out? And what did they say to you? What? 592 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: What was the verdict? Basically? Um? I ended up? How 593 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: long did the triald actually take? Um? The trial probably 594 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: took about an hour and a half. All right, okay, 595 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: and then yeah they're going through the verdict. How did 596 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: that go down? Um? And you know, the judge was like, oh, 597 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: my aunt. My lawyer was like, do you want her 598 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: to stand? And the judge was like, oh no, I'm casual, 599 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: but I stood. Um. Basically, they just read it, read 600 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: it off you. You're guilty, um they Unfortunately, I thought 601 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: what was interesting, And now that I've done a lot 602 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: of research in the last couple of weeks, UM, I 603 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: thought that it was interesting that they they gave me 604 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: the d y class, they gave me the victim impact, 605 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: they gave me thirty days stay out of trouble. They 606 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: gave me a hundred and eighty days if I get 607 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: caught drying. Um, as well as the fine community service. 608 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they gave me the lower fine, they said, 609 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: but others than out all. But now under the terms 610 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: of what you've been convicted for, what if you have 611 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: point one nanograms in your blood and you're driving and 612 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: they catch you, Well, I don't know, is there because here, 613 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: because in California, when you get convicted, part of the 614 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: part of the the of your probation is you cannot 615 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: drive with any measurable amount of alcohol or any measurable 616 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: amount of of anything. So I don't know if it's 617 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: like that in the in Nevada. I would imagine that 618 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: you I have heard that before, and they didn't go 619 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: over that because of the fact that my license is 620 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: actually suspended for medical reasons. Hold on, so this attorney 621 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: is killing me. So they read you the verdict and 622 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: they're done, and they're done with everything. Does he even 623 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: explain what is going on now and what's gonna like 624 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: what I just said? Did he look you can't drive 625 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: with any measurable or did he started explaining any of 626 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: what your terms are going to be while you're on probation. UM, 627 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I was, UM. I was 628 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: extremely angry at that point. I was very angry and 629 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: very emotional. And I just after they said I could go, 630 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: I left the courtroom, UM, and of just proceeded to 631 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: go off to the side and collect myself. UM. After 632 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: a few minutes, he came up to me and said, 633 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry we lost, and gave me a 634 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: little slip of paper that said you know, d y 635 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: school and literally he proceeded to turn it over and 636 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: write the name of another attorney that he recommended for appeal. 637 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: And I did not talk. He did not send me 638 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: my core paperwork with the charges. He did not do 639 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: anything until I contacted him and asked for them, do 640 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: we want to put this guy's name on black oh, 641 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: you mean Adam vander Hayden. Is that his name? Adam 642 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: vander Hayden. Is that some kind of guy that you'd 643 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: call Mark and be like, what is your problem? Why 644 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: do you take cases like this? My god? I mean, 645 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: I know it's it's kind of out of your whatever, 646 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: but it's ship like this though, that just attorneys look bad. 647 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: And when cannabis attorneys need help, like at least go on, 648 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, a clubhouse and search for help at least 649 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: like so so so. So now let's move forward, right, So, 650 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: so this happened, this recently happened? Right? When did? When 651 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: was the trial first? Just happened? Right? And you have 652 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: how many days to file your appeal? I have two 653 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: more dates? And you know what sucks that I think 654 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: about is you have ten years that this is on 655 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: your record for your insurance. You have ten years of 656 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: paying higher insurance rates. It's like crazy to think of 657 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: the other side effects that go down. Now. Now, I 658 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: know we tried our best to get you in touch 659 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: with the Pellet attorneys, and I know they're expensive. What 660 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: what's happened with all that? I don't know exactly where 661 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: that's out or what's happened Um well, basically I did contact. 662 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been calling people NonStop. Um. I 663 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: three out of the nine or ten attorneys I contacted 664 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: all kind of recommended the same guy. However, his fees 665 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: were really really expensive. Um, and I started to go 666 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: fund me basically two, you know, pay off my car 667 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: that I can't legally or morally morally drive, and to 668 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: raise money to see if I could get close to 669 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: a retainer because, UM, I want to appeal this, but 670 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: it's it's looking like it's almost impossible to do. Um. Yeah, 671 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean we're we're We're do everything we can. We're 672 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: gonna air this episode Thursday, this segment Thursday, to get 673 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: it out there. What is to tell everybody? What that 674 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: go fund me pages? Please? Um? Well, the go fund 675 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: me page is, UM, I don't I don't know the 676 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: exact number. I don't have it memorized him. I think 677 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: we can. We can, Okay, we can. We can attach 678 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: it as a link when we put everything up for 679 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: the Yeah, just check Peanut what it is, Peanut are 680 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll have it. He has, but we'll make 681 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: sure we put it on the I've got it right here. 682 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: It's go fund it's it's it's go fund dot me 683 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: backslash c f D eight four e. Say that again, 684 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: go fund dot me back forward slash c f dight 685 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: four e sixty and then that link will be attached 686 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Can can mark you help her out 687 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: by looking into this attorney that she's trying to work with? 688 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, can you give her something else? That should 689 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: we the people that we reached out to send her 690 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: to the same guy that other Apparently there's there's one 691 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: one a pellet attorney for this, probably the cannabis stuff 692 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: and this kind of stuff, which is not unusual if 693 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: a pellet attorneys, you know, there's not a lot of them, 694 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: and they're expensive because appeals take a long time and 695 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: they're expensive unfortunately a lot of hours. It's gonn take 696 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: up a lot of hours. But putting this guy on blast, 697 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: and you know, YELP and all those things that are 698 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: out there where you can you know, and I don't 699 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: know have you have you may have you contacted Nevada 700 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: State Bar. I think I mentioned this to you on 701 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: the Clubhouse chat Nevada State Bar. You know, you know 702 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: in California, when attorney does something, you know like this, 703 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: you can complain to the bar. You might even be 704 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: able to get some money back. You know, I don't know, 705 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: but I would at least explore it and look into 706 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: the Nevada State Bar because this guy just did not 707 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: give you representation that you needed deserved, and because she 708 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: could have walked free from this completely I think, I mean, 709 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: or or at least mounted a defense that gave some 710 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of chance. Jesus Christ, you don't bring to you 711 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: need to the way I see it, you need to. 712 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: You don't even bring one. I mean, they're claiming impairment 713 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: through the nanogram count of th HC that's in there 714 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: because she smokes heavily every day and she has the 715 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: epilepsy on our record to prove her she needs it. 716 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all there to help her. I just 717 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: look at what you're saying. And they looked at the 718 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: doctor records beforehand, that doctor records before and it's gonna 719 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: be golden, and explain why the th HC nanagrab count 720 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: is at a point nine. Sounds like it sounds like 721 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: her attorney didn't even argue any of this stuff pretty much. 722 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, look at that. Well, it sounds like he 723 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: just sat there for the most part and maybe asked 724 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: a dozen questions or something. That's what I'm getting the 725 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: impression of, I am so sorry. I'm sorry for that too, Amanda. 726 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: And it sucks. And once again, if you guys feel 727 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: it in your heart to go help Amanda. You heard 728 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: the go fund me page or look on the description 729 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: during the title of the show on the bottom of 730 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: wherever you're listening to this podcast on and uh, we'll 731 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: be able to do something there with Amanda. We want 732 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: to wish you the best of luck with this. And 733 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: when craig or Momark heard this story and he shared 734 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: it with us, it definitely touched all of our hearts 735 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: and we wanted to give you a platform to reach 736 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: out to the cannabis community to say, hey, can somebody 737 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: help this lady that's you know, out there doing good 738 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: and first time ever in trouble and not even real trouble, 739 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: and it's just bullshit what you gotta go through. So 740 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: we wish you nothing but the best of luck. Please 741 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: keep us in contact and let us know how it 742 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: all goes for you. Okay, I will definitely do it, 743 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: And I do want to say one thing if anyone 744 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: out there is listening I can stop one person from 745 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: making the mistakes that I made and being naive. It's 746 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: worth it to me telling my story and getting it 747 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: out there. I know there's got to be people that 748 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: have gone through at least a similar situation, and I 749 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: just want to do your due diligence reach out to 750 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: the cannabis community. It's the first mistake I made and 751 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: I will not only never do it again, but I 752 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: will be the first person to tell the world to 753 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: do the research and really really just know you know 754 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: they're getting themselves into before they signed papers. Well know 755 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: that we have your back and we wish you nothing 756 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: but the best of lock. Have a great day. Okay, 757 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on our show. This you guys, 758 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue Joe, Grande, 759 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: Mark and Craig Washerman. The popular is that law And 760 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: if nobody else loves you, we do. 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