WEBVTT - 2025-05-28- KSR PRE-SHOW

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR pre Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is Wednesday, May twenty eighth. I am Billy Rutland

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<v Speaker 1>along with Shannon the Dude. You can give us a

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<v Speaker 1>call on the Clark's Pumping Shop phone line. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>five nine two eight oho two two eight seven, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>at five oh two two sixty five six six five

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<v Speaker 1>six and is always The KSR pre Show is brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by Italics Fine Italian dining right here in Lexington, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>My co host, Shannon the Dude is in Lexington and

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<v Speaker 1>he has no weaknesses, folks. He is the perfect person.

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<v Speaker 1>He is here ready to go. Good morning, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>I can go ahead and point out your weaknesses, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is you already screwed up where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in Lexington. I'm in Louisville, Billy. I said

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Lexington, and might not say you were in.

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<v Speaker 3>LUI said that I am in Lexington. I believe that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you said.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe my weakness is I don't listen to you, but

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that's a strength. Actually, sometimes it's better

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<v Speaker 3>not to listen to your co host, especially when he's

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<v Speaker 3>Billy our sports. How you doing, Buddy, I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>Guntor Mike's landing sirt On We're going there later this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for Soul for Greek as much as anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Mike's landing. Last year we did the Newlyweds

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<v Speaker 1>game there. If you remember that, Shannon, in which I won,

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<v Speaker 1>you did you know? Not a weakness of mine knowing

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<v Speaker 1>my co host, but it may be of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't to You's right, that's why I don't you

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<v Speaker 2>don't win Newlywed game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, uh, maybe you'll listen today and thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are out there listening on the radio dial

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<v Speaker 1>or on the iHeartRadio app eight five nine two eight

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<v Speaker 1>h two two eight seven if you'd like to join us. Uh, Channon,

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever do you ever think about your brain

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, not working and you saying something stupid

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<v Speaker 1>on the air once or twice because I have that fear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean when you're on the air as

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<v Speaker 3>much as I am, it's almost impossible for it not

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<v Speaker 3>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like literally the beginning where I just said you

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<v Speaker 1>were in Lexington like that didn't register in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just such a fear of mine that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna black out and say something that I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna get me canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>Sull.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, you know, you doing a live show,

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<v Speaker 3>would hope to have a good producer who would take

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<v Speaker 3>care of you and hit the dump button if that

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<v Speaker 3>were to happen, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, but what if the producer doesn't listen to what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying? It's true?

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<v Speaker 3>What if the producer is also the host, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>is doing three different things and answering a phone call

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<v Speaker 3>and doesn't hear you say that. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 3>think that you would, you know, maybe jump in there

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<v Speaker 3>and save yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, that's always a fear.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. That's that's live radio. Everybody thinks they're doing live

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<v Speaker 3>radio when they're doing a podcast. That's not radio. All right, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not even close. If you can go back and

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<v Speaker 3>dust it up, you know, and like take all the

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<v Speaker 3>blemishes out of it, then that's not live radio.

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<v Speaker 2>The beauty of live radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything could happen in live radio, and I think it

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<v Speaker 3>makes you, I think it makes you better something live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know about you, but I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>was just such a nervousness and a fear of the

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<v Speaker 1>first year or so of doing it. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>get comfortable and that red light comes on and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like talking with your friends. But then then some

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<v Speaker 1>some times that brain just still stops working, Shannon. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you ever fully grow out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had a moment. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>The art is being comfortable without being too comfortable, because

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<v Speaker 3>when you get too.

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<v Speaker 2>Comfortable, that's when those things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We know, our guy Ryan Lemon, it's a little too

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable every now and then and we'll have to use

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<v Speaker 1>the dumb button on him. Speaking of our guy Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>how about him breaking his nose over the weekend but

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<v Speaker 1>breathing better afterwards. Somehow it knocked his nose into the

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<v Speaker 1>right place where he's breathing a little better, but face

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<v Speaker 1>planning into the handle of his trash can as he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To move it up under the curb over the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to visualize how that even happens, because

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<v Speaker 3>like my trash can comes up to, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>my stomach carrier maybe a little bit higher.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm just trying to visualize.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm on the grass, I've got my trash can,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm pushing it towards the driveway, which has a

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<v Speaker 3>little gap in between, and I'm just trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how it would be physically possible for me in

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<v Speaker 3>that moment to break my nose on the handles way

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<v Speaker 3>down here. I guess Ryan's a little bit shorter, so

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it comes up higher on him, right, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that checks out.

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<v Speaker 2>But still, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that takes some true talent to break

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<v Speaker 3>your nose on the side of a garbage can.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying maybe it helps the sleep apnea. But our

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<v Speaker 1>guy Ryan had a little bit of an eventful weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only that, I thought we might be getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the Android phone. Finally, Shannon, he breaks his

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<v Speaker 1>phone over the weekend. But yet he says he's not

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<v Speaker 1>getting an iPhone upgrade, He's getting the Android. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've had these issues for years. But after

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<v Speaker 1>was Matt said on the air the other day that

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually a security risk of group chats with an

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<v Speaker 1>Android phone. With a bunch of iPhones, Shannon, maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>do need to finally kick him out of the group.

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<v Speaker 3>Cho Well, here's what I was hearing yesterday from Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like to me that he spends more money

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<v Speaker 3>on the insurance of his phone than the insurance of

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<v Speaker 3>his own body. And if you're ensuring an android with

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<v Speaker 3>more money than you are your own health, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's a problem right there to begin with. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to make sure that Ryan has his priority.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in check. You've got to make sure that he

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<v Speaker 2>is insured more than that stupid android phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's much more important than protecting what's on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But I relate with Ryan. I mean, how many times

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<v Speaker 1>do you sign something after reading the fine print, Shannon?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Apple terms and conditions, the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even like you know you should read your contract, Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are times when you just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>you sign.

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<v Speaker 2>It, right, I mean, not a contract, a contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read a contract maybe a little different than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the the Apple app store.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're agreeing to every time?

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<v Speaker 3>Down the conditions, the terms and conditions. Everybody's just going

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<v Speaker 3>You're just wiping down to the bottom so you can

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<v Speaker 3>check the box. Right, nobody's reading all that stuff, And

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<v Speaker 3>who knows. I mean, you have to sign it anyway

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, get the phone, or to get whatever

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<v Speaker 3>app on the phone that you want. So you're signing

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<v Speaker 3>away a lot of your privacy. And I think you

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<v Speaker 3>realize that anyway, if you're online, if you have any

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<v Speaker 3>social media presence at all, or an email address, your

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<v Speaker 3>information is already out there. That's why I don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>why people freak out when the security breach. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>they have my information. Look, anybody could people find out

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<v Speaker 3>where I live and send me foreign money on the internet. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like there is no privacy. Privacy does not exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you lou on the Yeah, once you go on

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<v Speaker 3>the internet for the first time, your prophecy is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You go on a website and you accept cookies to

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<v Speaker 1>join the website, I'm sure that's tracking me somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>She don't even know what that means too, That says cookies,

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean like chocolate? Yeah, I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, that is something we'll look back on that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we signed away a little too easily. But speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of fine print, I watched one of the first episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of the new season of Black Mirror, Shannon, are you

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<v Speaker 1>a Black Mirror fan?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I watched like one or two episodes, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's one of those series that I

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<v Speaker 3>should be into, but I just never really got into

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<v Speaker 3>it very much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's about the dystopian future and how technology can

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<v Speaker 1>have these negative side effects and not reading the fine

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<v Speaker 1>print went a long way in one of the new episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't recommend it enough. It is a good

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<v Speaker 1>show if you're looking for something on Netflix, but read

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<v Speaker 1>the fine print, folks, even though I probably won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you what?

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<v Speaker 3>I started watching the record at the recommendation of Ryan yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan's getting all kinds of talk in this first segment,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, so you know, he recommended the new pee

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<v Speaker 3>Wee Herman documentary, and as someone who grew up watching

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<v Speaker 3>Peewee's Playhouse as a kid, I was interested in it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's it's actually pretty good. It's a two part series.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you really call that a series.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a two part thing documentary, I guess, two

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<v Speaker 3>part documentary, and like the first one is an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and a half long, so I haven't gotten through that

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<v Speaker 3>first one yet. It's alone, but it's interesting seeing the

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<v Speaker 3>guy who was like type cast it as pee wee Herman. Right, Nobody,

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<v Speaker 3>even a lot of people didn't even know his real

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<v Speaker 3>name because he kind of played one character his entire

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<v Speaker 3>career after that, and he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about an identity crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it shows like he was on like

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<v Speaker 3>the Dating Game. Did you know that pee wee Herman

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<v Speaker 3>is on the Dating Game? He actually did. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he created the character pee Wee Herman by doing an

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<v Speaker 3>improv stand up. He had to do like the each

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<v Speaker 3>person in this improv group had to go up and

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<v Speaker 3>perform like a comedy routine, but you had to create

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<v Speaker 3>a character. And he created this character, pee Wee Herman,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took off. It was such a big deal

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<v Speaker 3>that then he ended up having his own kid show.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a little different with Shannon the Dude, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon the Dude's not that much different on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>than Shannon Griggs be in real life. But like when

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<v Speaker 1>you create this completely different persona and it launches you

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<v Speaker 1>into superstardom where you have to act like that character

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I mean, that has got to be

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<v Speaker 1>just an insane way to go about life. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>pe wee Herman's kind of like a fever dream for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could say I was super

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<v Speaker 1>into it since I was born in ninety five, but

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<v Speaker 1>like my dad showed me the movies, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>these dreams of large Marge, like like eyeballs popping out

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<v Speaker 1>of her head and like just kind of like these

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<v Speaker 1>odd moments. It was such a weird show, but it

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<v Speaker 1>did connect with a pretty big audience. So you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>I should check that documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and it's genius because people didn't know is

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<v Speaker 3>this a like is pee wee Herman? Like who this

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<v Speaker 3>guy really is or not? And you couldn't tell. He

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<v Speaker 3>blurred the line so well. It was kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>an Andy Kaufman thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. He would be into character all.

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<v Speaker 3>The time, and even when we go out, he would

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<v Speaker 3>go out in public and not be doing pee wee Herman.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have to kind of be pee wee Herman

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what everybody thought.

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<v Speaker 2>He was who everybody thought that he actually was.

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<v Speaker 3>In real life, and he played that character so well

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<v Speaker 3>that people didn't know is that really him?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he really talk like that? Does he really act

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<v Speaker 2>like that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, you know, like Rick Flair had

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<v Speaker 3>to be Rick Flair all the time, mm hmm, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the million dollar man. He had that persona, so he

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<v Speaker 3>had to live that lifestyle even when he wasn't on screen,

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<v Speaker 3>so that the public would see him the same way

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<v Speaker 3>they see them on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's got to be exhausting. And that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting to like, how can you act like that?

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<v Speaker 2>That charade?

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<v Speaker 1>Now a little bit of a different lane here, there

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<v Speaker 1>are some actors that are known as method actor shann

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<v Speaker 1>where they just take everything way too seriously, and even

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<v Speaker 1>when the cameras go off, they still act like the

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<v Speaker 1>person they're portraying.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been some reports in this new upcoming movie about

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<v Speaker 1>John Madden that is I think it's Nick Cage and

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Bale are playing John Madden and Al Davis and

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<v Speaker 1>their method acting this out, and the cast and crew

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<v Speaker 1>apparently are just sick and tired of these guys because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're acting like these characters, but then

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<v Speaker 1>when the lights and camera goes off, there's still being

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<v Speaker 1>assholes right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Still being whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. But did you

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<v Speaker 2>drop that shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should probably see we were talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that we're talking about it, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>happens on the first segment that button works. How does

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<v Speaker 2>that have to dump you? What's morning radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon's It's got to do a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>different vibe than most conversations. I can't believe we had

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<v Speaker 1>I just had that while we were talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, you need to take a moment. Do you need

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<v Speaker 2>to like get some fresh air?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm fine. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as happened to some people in years, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go back to talk about a segment that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make you want to say cuss words on the air

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<v Speaker 3>at nine o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even really a cuss word.

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<v Speaker 3>It was I was just looking up. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the Pewee Harman documentary. Do you realize that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some of these shows have such an impact on culture,

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<v Speaker 3>but that you look them up and you don't even

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<v Speaker 3>realize or I didn't, at least that it was a

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<v Speaker 3>short run and only it was only on the air

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<v Speaker 3>for four years, and it felt like it was on

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<v Speaker 3>for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>Really it was only on for four.

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<v Speaker 3>Peewee's playoffs aired from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 3>making it a four year run.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, only four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eighty six?

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty six to ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So maybe that's why I remember the movies much

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<v Speaker 1>more than the actual show. There was like a talking

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<v Speaker 1>chair or something like that in the show. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Cherry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a fever dream. It's all kind of coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the movies, yeah, it makes it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it adds to the longevity of it. But the you

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<v Speaker 3>know Saturday Morning show was only four or four years running.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that long, But then you got the movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that, you know, in your mind thinks makes

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<v Speaker 3>it seem longer than what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's it's weird the things that you remember.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll have to check out a little pee wee Herman.

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<v Speaker 1>It is otega Oway Day, Shane, and we should mention

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<v Speaker 1>that it is decision day for Otegah. He has until

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<v Speaker 1>eleven fifty nine tonight to withdraw from the NBA Draft

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<v Speaker 1>and officially a return back to Kentucky. At least that's

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<v Speaker 1>the hope for many listening to this show. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some new reporting that has come out. Matt Norlander

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<v Speaker 1>is reporting that always feedback over the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days has been overwhelmingly positive. So while Norlander still expects

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<v Speaker 1>Otega away to come back to Kentucky, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>reports that the feedback is good. And then Darryl Bird

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<v Speaker 1>is down in Florida for the sec ME and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a report on the Cats pause that Oa has

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<v Speaker 1>one final workout today with an NBA team before he

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<v Speaker 1>will make his final decision. Shannon, does any of this

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<v Speaker 1>new news change your opinion on what you think Otega will.

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<v Speaker 3>Do later today? No, I think he's still coming back

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<v Speaker 3>at Kentucky. But I think he's getting every last drop

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<v Speaker 3>out of this experience that he can, as he should,

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<v Speaker 3>right because he's going to go back again next year

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<v Speaker 3>after this upcoming season and go through the process again.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that if you have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>work out for the NBA teams, you should work out

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<v Speaker 3>for every team that you have that opportunity for, because

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<v Speaker 3>who knows, this last team that he's working out for

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<v Speaker 3>today very well could be the team that ends up

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<v Speaker 3>drafting him next year. So why would you not go

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<v Speaker 3>at least through that process. You're already in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>He's you know, he's all in. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>you just if you're going to test the waters, you

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<v Speaker 3>just go, well, I'm going to do it with this

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<v Speaker 3>team and this team, but not the other teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be foolish to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So now that you're already in the the process, she

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<v Speaker 3>might as well work out.

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<v Speaker 2>For every team that you have the opportunity for.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's smart on his point on his part,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't think that it's going to change his mind,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he will be announcing later on today

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<v Speaker 3>that he's coming back to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>When your dream is to make the NBA, Like you said, Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's foolish to not explore every avenue. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what otega Oway is doing. And I love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that the feedback is overwhelmingly positive. That means he

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<v Speaker 1>will be even a bigger contributor for Kentucky next year

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<v Speaker 1>if he does decide to return. But if he doesn't, Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you think about this roster? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you at with what Mark Pope has without Oteka?

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<v Speaker 2>If that was the decision, I'm kind of on.

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<v Speaker 1>The verge of it's near a top ten roster without him.

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<v Speaker 1>With him, it could be a top five, top three.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you agree with that or do you think a

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<v Speaker 1>little differently.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he has a big impact, more so than

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<v Speaker 3>what we knew this time last year, right especially going

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<v Speaker 3>through the season and realizing, Okay, this is the guy

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<v Speaker 3>that's putting the team on his back and scoring double

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<v Speaker 3>digits and nearly every game throughout the season. If he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't come back, I mean, they still have a great team,

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<v Speaker 3>but they need him. Let's not split here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>let's be rull about it. They need Otega away for

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<v Speaker 3>next season. If he doesn't come back, there's still a

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<v Speaker 3>top twenty five team. I don't know if I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to say top ten, still a top twenty five, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this team will be centered around Otega

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<v Speaker 3>oway and if he doesn't come back, then you have

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<v Speaker 3>to lean on the experience of your other guys that

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<v Speaker 3>you had in the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just think about like a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half ago, this guy's transferring from Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do we.

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<v Speaker 1>Even really know who this guy is? But he ends

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<v Speaker 1>up scoring double digits in all but two games, game

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<v Speaker 1>winners against Oklahoma twice. Man, he was the heart and

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<v Speaker 1>soul of this team in a lot of ways, And

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I mean, it just takes on a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different vibe if he were to come back. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a SEC preseason player of the year, possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>first team All SEC. And I'm excited. I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>the kid. Whatever he decides to do. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a very bright, few mature but these Cats fans

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<v Speaker 1>would love him back, and you know, he would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Embraced again by this fan base.

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<v Speaker 1>Of of course he would so exciting news possibly coming

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<v Speaker 1>later today with otega Oway Hey five nine two eight

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<v Speaker 1>oh two two eight seven Texas five o two two

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<v Speaker 1>six five six six five six.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try not to cuss the rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any more cuss words? No, No, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to test the dump button. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd assume it works.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know well it better. I mean, you're the producer.

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<v Speaker 1>You got one job over there. If you could do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll slow down.

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<v Speaker 2>I got more. You're the one with one job.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, listen, I need to call you out a

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<v Speaker 1>second saying I don't do anything for twenty three hours

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday when we were talking about the Matt Jones show.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys were on KSR. That was factual.

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<v Speaker 1>Please Shannon, listen, GM Billy is going to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get that speaking role in the next movie.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, we'll take a break and be

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<v Speaker 1>right back here on the KSR pre show. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is pee Wee. I could tell by this random scream there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like that's one of those shows I watched

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And I what am I even watching? Like what even

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<v Speaker 2>is this?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm watching it now like I don't even understand,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what how did this even become a show?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it does seem like it's a show that's

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs or something like it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so eighties, it was very eighties comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>We yeah, we we heard the pee wee Herman scream. There.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast listeners got the scream of Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday with no music played that country song and he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to do the scream too. It's it's actually been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun listening to the out of content

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<v Speaker 1>singing of like Matt and you guys on KSR without

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast music. But I know you miss it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big part of what you do, Shannon. So

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately people don't get to hear that. That's why you

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen live.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you get the you know, Matt reacting to

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<v Speaker 3>the he hal song Gloom to Spare and agony on me, That's.

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<v Speaker 2>What it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good stuff A five nine two eight oh two

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<v Speaker 1>two eight seven. The Pacers got it done last night

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<v Speaker 1>against the Next one thirty to one twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of knew that was going to happen, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>After I saw that Tyrese Haliburton's dad was back in

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<v Speaker 1>the building, the band was lifted. He was allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>go watch his son play, and Tyrese did something that

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<v Speaker 1>no other NBA player has ever done. Thirty three points,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen assists, twelve rebounds and zero turnovers. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>first player in NBA history in the conference finals to

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<v Speaker 1>have a triple double without zero or with zero turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been incredible, Shannon. And since the NBA players voted

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<v Speaker 1>him the most overrated player in the league, that is

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<v Speaker 1>his peers making that decision. He has been an exceptional player. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt, yep, he has been. We just need

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<v Speaker 1>to keep Dad over there on the sidelines. Like, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't belong on the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't be coming out here talking trash after we beat

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<v Speaker 3>the Knicks, you know, just know your role, Dad, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's my main focus. But yah, Halliburton has been great,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt about it. And now it's a three to

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<v Speaker 3>one series.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually both series are three to one. So do you

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<v Speaker 3>think that the Thunder close it out tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Okasee is the team to beat the year

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunate that the Knicks couldn't make it two to two,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll get at least one more game in Madison

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<v Speaker 1>Square Garden.

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<v Speaker 1>So tonight you can watch Shay Gil Just Alexander take

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<v Speaker 1>on Julius Randall. Julius Randall was a player that was

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<v Speaker 1>traded from the Knicks to the Timberwolves, and he recently

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<v Speaker 1>made some comments that drew some questions. Shannon said about

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<v Speaker 1>talk about playing in New York that it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really focus on the game. You're focused on

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<v Speaker 1>everything else other than the game itself. You're living and

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<v Speaker 1>dying with every single shot, every single turnover, every single loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably that sounds pretty dramatically.

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<v Speaker 3>In New York delay in New York kidding me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've realized there's a lot going on there. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a professional athlete. You should be able to be

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<v Speaker 3>focused enough on the game for a few hours to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to go out there and not feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you're distracted by everything that's New York, wouldn't you think, right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, right, if you're a professional athlete, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>distracted by the fans, right, you should ultimately be in

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<v Speaker 1>a bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, But they mean these are humans, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they I mean I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess like for somebody you know, you think coming and

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<v Speaker 3>right out of college, which he's not right out of college,

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<v Speaker 3>but for you know, rookies that are imagine going from

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a midwestern school to New York City, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that's a culture shock and the lifestyle is completely

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<v Speaker 3>different there.

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<v Speaker 1>And like let's take Kentucky out of the equation, Like

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<v Speaker 1>even western Kentucky. You've got maybe three four reporters there

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<v Speaker 1>and two of them are students. Right, It's they's softball questions.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to make you look good so they can

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<v Speaker 1>write stories and they can continue to get access to

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<v Speaker 1>the program.

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<v Speaker 2>New York Man, they're like, you know, why are you so.

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<v Speaker 1>Awful at basketball? Like why are you out at the

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<v Speaker 1>club last night? Shouldn't you be working on your jump shot?

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<v Speaker 1>How does professional basketball miss a free or professional basketball

0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 1>player missed this many free throws? Like I'm sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean ask Mitchell Robinson. He's getting some of that

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<v Speaker 1>treatment in New York right now. So, like it's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it is tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a ruthless media market. But to hear

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Randall say it ain't fun and you're living and

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<v Speaker 1>dying with every single shot, you gotta think that's really

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<v Speaker 1>tough on somebody's mental If you're trying to find success

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<v Speaker 1>in a place.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, he's gotta be tough.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean's's I mean you think Kentucky's like that to

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<v Speaker 3>a degree. Yeah, I mean the spotlight's on you. You

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<v Speaker 3>know it's going to be when you're in New York

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<v Speaker 3>and playing for the Knicks as well. But yeah, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 3>it's tough, especially you know at the even younger age,

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<v Speaker 3>talking about kids coming straight out of high school and

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<v Speaker 3>now all of a sudden, you're the focus everywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's fans that recognize you.

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<v Speaker 2>And what and when is it at Kentucky? We can't

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<v Speaker 2>hide you here. That's right. This place isn't for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't for everyone. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're gonna take a break. Much more on

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<v Speaker 1>the way on this Wednesday edition of the show. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the show, the Casurpre Show, We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the KSR Pre Show, Billy and the Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Wednesday, May twenty eighth, and we've got a little

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<v Speaker 1>pumpkin action in the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Shannon the Dude post a picture yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, we got the leaves have sprouted up or something's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what's happening, but we got something green

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's good. Something green, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it actually pushed up one of the seeds

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<v Speaker 3>that was open, and there was a seed just sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on top of the leaf. I go, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what that means, So I just took this. They can

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<v Speaker 3>put it back in the ground. Apparently you put it

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<v Speaker 3>back apparently, like the thing that was supposed to sprout

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<v Speaker 3>already came out of it. And I guess that was

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that that leave came out of that seed. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't realize it. So look, I'm just trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>this out as I go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just crossing our fingers helping these pumpkins sproud

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw a little miracle grow on it, maybe some water,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll just see what happens from there. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess next step is we've got to have some flowers

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<v Speaker 3>that come on there. Then once the flowers start blooming out,

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<v Speaker 3>then you get the pumpkins.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. That always works.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you know what you're doing, So you

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<v Speaker 1>just keep as posted control of this guy. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to carve a homemade Shannon the Dude pumpkin.

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<v Speaker 2>When October comes around this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the last day of classes for many high

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<v Speaker 1>schools across Kentucky, including Fayette County.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, summer's officially here.

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<v Speaker 1>If Memorial Day wasn't the unofficial kickoff when the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are done for school, summer really is here, and teaching

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting dynamics Shannon, right, I mean, you work hard,

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<v Speaker 1>so hard with children for many months and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get summer breakof would you like a summer break?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, would you like that cycle?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm sure that can be a little vicious waiting

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<v Speaker 1>all year for summer to come around.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about like if I were in school.

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<v Speaker 1>Or just like right now, Like let's say you have

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<v Speaker 1>to work with children for you know, eight or nine

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<v Speaker 1>months out of the year, but you get three months off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you like to have three months off. I mean,

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess some people even get three months off if

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<v Speaker 3>they work in radio, if you're certain people. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>get that. I get like I get my.

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<v Speaker 2>Four weeks off because I've been here for twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>years and that's that's plenty. That's what you get.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think, you know, a good break for

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<v Speaker 3>teachers is necessary, a good three month break just to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of get away from it all. And it's good

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<v Speaker 3>for the kids too, right. I Mean at this point though,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of schools, it seems like, are nearly going

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<v Speaker 3>year round because they're making up for snow days.

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<v Speaker 2>Snow days, Yeah, what are they called NTI days? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what it is? Where they? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is anyone you're on the right that has taken

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<v Speaker 1>the place of a lot of snow days, right, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being able to go out on the sled and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your actual day, they'll say, you have an NTI

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<v Speaker 1>day and you have to sit on your computer all day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a shame, Shannon, you know, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just how the times have changed, and COVID definitely

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>made that a lot worse. But you know, you kind

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>of you work all week for the weekend, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll work eight or nine months for the summer vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>So salute to our teachers and hopefully this last day

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<v Speaker 1>goes easy for you. But I do have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a fair or foul regarding teachers. Sure, I

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<v Speaker 1>just get ready for this one. There's a senior at

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<v Speaker 1>Northeastern University that is asking for a tuition refund after

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<v Speaker 1>busting her professor for using chat GPT. So normally it's

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the other way around when students are using chat GPT

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<v Speaker 1>to write a paper or anything like this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually the professor was using AI generated images that

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be distorted and even people with extra limbs

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<v Speaker 1>in the professor's lectures. After a little bit of digging,

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<v Speaker 1>the student learned that the professor had been using AI

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<v Speaker 1>tools but not telling the students about it. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were using it in their curriculum and all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that they were teaching the students, but all the while

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<v Speaker 1>the professor demanded the students not to use AI. So

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<v Speaker 1>the student is filing a complaint and requesting a refund

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<v Speaker 1>of more than eight thousand dollars intuition costs for the course.

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<v Speaker 1>The professor acknowledged the use of AI and admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>he should have looked closer at the material, but the

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<v Speaker 1>refund was refused by the school. So, Shannon fairrofoul or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that this student should get a refund

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<v Speaker 1>for finding out their professor was using AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do as I say, not as I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, If you're the professor, you're telling all these students

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot use chet GPT, yet the professor is doing

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<v Speaker 3>exactly that. I think the students got a good argument here.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if it were the other way around and

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<v Speaker 3>the professor found out the student was using chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 3>probably expelled, expelled, the test.

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<v Speaker 2>The test fell the great, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think you know, if you're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's cheating for the students to do it.

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't think a professor should be able to take

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<v Speaker 3>a short cut either, so I think it's a valid argument.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm kind of with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the professor was upfront and said, hey,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm using AI to help with my power points, to

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>help with the even the content that you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>using for you to learn, then I think it would

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>be fine. But when you ask your students not to

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<v Speaker 1>use AI and in turn you are using it to

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<v Speaker 1>present material, I just that doesn't seem right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking how much easier class would have been

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 3>having chet GPT.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh come on, I mean it's not even class at that.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 3>I it's you can and if you were smart, you

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<v Speaker 3>would use it to write your paper for you and

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<v Speaker 3>then just put it in your own words and there's

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<v Speaker 3>your paper. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>How hard is that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's gotten even worse now you type in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>write an essay for me as a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>low a student that could not be found out using

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<v Speaker 1>AI tool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, so do you just enter differently into the prompt

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to change it? And as much advancement

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>as we've seen an AI over the last couple of years, Shannon,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I gotta think, I mean, how are they going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to stop this?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't know that. I don't think

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 2>you can.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, once the tooth pastes out of the tube,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 3>you can't put it back in. And I think that's

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 3>kind of the situation with AI, Like the farther and

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<v Speaker 3>farther we go along with the advancements of AI.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you stop it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can, Like, there's no way that

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<v Speaker 3>I know that a professor could go. I mean, I

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>guess you could go and try to enter in the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing that you think that the student may have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, entered it for a prompt on chat GBT, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it's yeah, I don't I don't know. It's really

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>tough to figure that out. Yeah, I guess. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>The The counter argument is, you are doing a disservice

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself using chat comployees.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think I cared? All I cared about was

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<v Speaker 3>do I have an AB or a C next to

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<v Speaker 3>my name?

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<v Speaker 1>That well, that's that's the problem with the education system

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. And this is not the right show

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>for this, And I get into that that's more.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>For I just I just wanted to get I just

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get to college and play baseball.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>That was it. Let me play baseball.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I took three years of Spanish, I could barely speak

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a word.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's be part of it.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Let's be completely real about it. What you and I

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 3>are doing right now. You went to Western Kentucky. So

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>you went to school for broadcasting.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I did not.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I learned under the you know, tutelage of Tony Venetti.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, he was my professor in radio. He was

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you know, he was doing all the

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>rock station stuff, and he was the guy that I

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 3>was learning under, uh for a good part of my career.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Then he went into sports radio. Then I went to

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 3>sports radio as well. So in a way, my career

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 3>has sort of mirrored his. And you know, I didn't

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 3>have to go to school for it. So you know,

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I played baseball four years, went to college.

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Didn't take anything really that I learned in college.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Here now, I will say it did help me get

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 3>this career because I was able to intern at the

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>radio station through the college, which I would not have

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 3>had the opportunity. So basically I paid a good amount

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 3>of money to do an internship to get into radio.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's about leaving the nest.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>It's about you know, growing on your own and finding

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>these opportunities. So you know, cynically, you could look at hey,

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing I did in college led to me

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to be in my career, But Shannon, I would disagree.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I would say, you would not be who you are

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>today if.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>You didn't do them.

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>The best class I took that helped with what we

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>do now is was it Lindsay Wilson My freshman year?

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>It was public speaking? And I still hate public speaking,

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 3>believe it or not. Like the radio to me isn't

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 3>public speaking. But if you said, like, you know, I

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>want you to come do a speech, I would hate

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 3>to do that. I don't like. I don't enjoy that

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 3>at all. Like I know that Matt goes around and

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>does these speaking engagements. I think he has one coming

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 3>up soon. Yeah maybe today.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it's tonight.

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah maybe today. But you know that's not me. Like

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't enjoy doing that type of thing. I don't

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 3>like to be asked to do that type of thing.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, I can go out and do a remote

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>in front of three hundred people and be fine, But

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I you know, that's not a speech, that's just.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the public speaking is different, Like you got note cards,

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to make eye contact with people. Your body

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>language is very important. You know, we do a radio

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>show in a remote. You know, sometimes we're sitting, sometimes

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we're standing. You know, it's much more of a conversation,

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're trying to be entertainers. And that's much different

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>than like, I have a pointed message i'd like to get.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Across, but don't ask me to do that. I'm not

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>doing that. I'd like to hear.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>No, Shannon, maybe you can give us a speech or

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a tutorial on how to grow pumpkins. Maybe a few

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>months from now, would you be able to break it

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>down for us, maybe create a PowerPoint.

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>So maybe so you know, like you know, like when

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 3>a president though does a speech, there's teleprompters there teleprompters.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's different if I'm reading off a teleprompter,

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess, but I would just feel like, you know,

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 3>am I being entertaining enough if I'm just reading off

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>a teleprompter?

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't like.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Listen to people public speaking. I don't like I just

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 3>don't enjoy it. Unless somebody I'm I'm really interested in,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 3>which the amount of people that I'm really interested in

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 3>enough to sit there and listen to somebody talk for

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>an hour that exists in this world is probably like

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, two three maybe well.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we were talking about public speaking,

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think of our guy Ryan Lemon again. I mean,

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>he goes out there and does public speaking in front

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of the engineering conference here in Lexington about engineering, has

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>no idea about engineering and really doesn't know what he's

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about, I think until he gets up there.

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And so that's a nice career. There is an art

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to it, and the bad jokes that he delivered. I

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>think that day eight five nine two eight h two

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>two eight seven. There were some big news in the

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky sports world when offensive line coach Eric Woolford signed

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a new one year contract extension with the Kentucky football team,

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and he also got one hundred thousand dollars raise, so

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>he will now make nine hundred thousand dollars this year.

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Shannon he was with Kentucky in twenty twenty one. He

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>left in the middle of a recruiting trip to go

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>join Nick Saban in Alabama for two years. He is

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>now back at Kentucky and this will be year three

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>overall with the Cats. Year two in this stint. Before

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I give my take, Shannon, tell me what you thought

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>your initial reaction when Eric Wolford got the contract extension.

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know this is Stoop's buddy and he's going

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>to take care of his buddies. And you know, I

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 3>understand that, like you probably would too if you were

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>the head coach you had the chance to get one

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>of your your good friends and assistant a coach paid

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>more money, you would probably do it for them. But

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 3>do I think that it's deserved. No, not at a

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>one hundred thousand dollars raise, Billy, what were they? What

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 3>was the offensive line ranked last year? Like, you know,

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna get a raise, you have to be

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 3>able to show results. You have to be able to

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>show that you earn that money. But this just seems

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 3>to be a one hundred thousand dollars raised just because.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>And boy would I love to have one of those.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>But no, I don't think it's deserved at all. And

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I know that offensive line was not ranked highly. I

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know the number. I want to say, like well.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>The last thing image of the offensive line last year

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Minci at the concession stand for better or for worse.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is you know, Kentucky has tried to

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>reinvent the big Blue wall and it just has not worked.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>And this is a guy that's already spurned Stoops to

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a degree, leaving for Alabama the first time he was

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe his college roommate back in the day, and

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and Stoops has since in the last few years hired

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>his brother and his college roommates. So you could look

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>at that from afar and think maybe he's gotten complacent,

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe he is not doing things the same

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>way he was early in his tenure. But I want

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to reserve judgment. I I hate to kill a guy

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>on the air, Shanon. That's just that's just not who

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I am. Like, I'm I'm not gonna you know, listen,

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that was dumped. I I don't want to come on

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>here and say, like somebody should be fired. I don't

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>think that's my role or my job. I didn't say

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that either, but but I want to. I want to

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>be clear about this. We have not seen the development

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>needed from the offensive line to justify this race. Now,

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Eric Wolford is somebody that is what I've heard is

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a very good recruiter, a big part of the talent

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that has come in over the last couple of years.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>And it looks like he's done a pretty good job

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of bringing in a new crop of recruits this year

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.240
<v Speaker 1>for the rotating offensive line or even the skill players.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I know he's very involved with that. So if you

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>look at it from one hundred mile view, Shan, and

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>if you think that player development is in the past

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and the only thing that matters is recruiting and getting

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>guys every single year from the transfer portal, then yes,

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I see this is absolutely a good move. Eric Wolford

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a personable guy that can relate with

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>young kids. But if you're looking for player development, he

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>has not showed over the last five years that he

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.240
<v Speaker 1>can go from the one year to the next improving guys,

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>playing backups, and putting the offensive line in good situations.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>That's just my take showing yep, and I agree with

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>most of that.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I just don't think that that offensive

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>line has shown that it's good enough for the coach

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 3>to be paid an extra one hundred thousand dollars for

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 3>one year.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, neither is the tight ends coach, Vince Merrow. What

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>production have we gotten from tight ends over the.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Last five You want to talk about recruiters, I mean

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that a good part of those roster wouldn't

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 3>be here if it weren't for Vince Merril.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 2>So I'll take up for Vince.

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I mean. That's my point is they

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>can have these titles of offensive line coach and tight

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>ends coach, but what they do as recruiters, I think

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>ultimately is what gets them these raises and why there's

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the highest paid assistants.

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe so, but again I think a lot of this

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 3>is how much just the tight end utilized in the offense.

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Not much, not much. No, So is that Vince Merrill's fault, No,

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 3>he's not the one.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think there has to be some blame for the

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>development and the uses of tight ends from the tight

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>end coach, Shannon. I mean, you don't just get absolved

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>from that because the offense doesn't throw to tight ends enough.

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>But look, we're people that you know, we do this

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>from pretty far away from the football program. So take

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>what we say with a grain of salt. But there

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of negative reaction from the Eric Wolford

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.959
<v Speaker 1>contract extension. I'm here to tell you, if the way

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of the future is just recruiting the next guy, then

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>this could be a good move.

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But if you're looking.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>At player development, I just haven't seen enough from Eric.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Another thing I would say about Vince Marrow is, if

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 3>anything he has shown that he is loyal to this program,

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 3>can Eric Wolford say that?

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's why I think.

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's another reason I think that Vince Merrow,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>who could have left this program at a long time ago,

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 3>multiple different times, has always stuck with Kentucky.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>It always seems like there's a job out there. Yeah,

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Vince is in the running for right.

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 2>And where's Vince. He's at Kentucky. Yeah, big dogs still here.

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>He's a guy I would want to go into the

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 2>trenches with so even.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>More pressure for this team to produce, to win, to

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>make a bowl game this year, because when you're giving

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>assistance contract extensions in the middle of the offseason, it

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make a ton of sense. But we need

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to take a break eight five nine two eight h

0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>two two eight seven. We will be right back for

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>one final segment. Here on the Ksippre Show, Welcome back.

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>It's our final segment here on a Wednesday, Billy and

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the Dude. Not too long of a segment here after

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>we went a little long on the Eric Wolford Conversation.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's take our first phone call to day. Grandma Sarah

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 1>is on the line. Good morning, Grandma Sarah.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>How are you?

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm fine? Thank you. Two quick things for Shannon. One

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 4>right off, in case you didn't know what you probably do,

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Lindsay WHISTLM. Lindsey Wilson College has now been changed to

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Lindsay Wilson University.

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that. No, I wasn't aware of that.

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I think it is changing either the first of June

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 4>or the end of June. It's coming up in a

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 4>few weeks, so you can say you went to a university. Okay.

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 4>The other thing is I've never grown pumpkins, but I

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 4>know a little bit about them. The vines. I'm going

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 4>to be listening all summer to get a report on

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 4>the radio comut. But those vines may go all over

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 4>your backyard, if it's in your corner of your yard,

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 4>they grow, I mean they are very long. And these people,

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 4>these people that grow these big punkins that take to

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<v Speaker 4>the fair. Okay, when they only have when they start blooming,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll only have one bloom on the plant for the

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<v Speaker 4>one for the big punkin. So you might experiment a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. Take one of your plants and just when

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<v Speaker 4>they start blooming, just have one bloom on it for

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<v Speaker 4>all the nursehment to go to that one, you know punkin.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, you're saying, take all the other blooms off

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<v Speaker 3>and just have one just to take all the other

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<v Speaker 3>ones in their own Okay, Okay, yeah, you might.

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<v Speaker 4>Not want to do that on all of them because

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know may plant you got, but you might

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<v Speaker 4>just experiment on one just to see what happens. That one

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<v Speaker 4>punkin should be getting all the nursehment and it should

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<v Speaker 4>be your big pupkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Just keep it well watered and fertilized all summer and

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<v Speaker 4>see where your vines go.

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<v Speaker 3>They may go everywhere, taking those vines and just directing

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<v Speaker 3>them towards my neighbor's part of the garden.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you they do. That's yeah, the vines you

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<v Speaker 4>will you'll see a thank you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Sarah. Yes, my neighbor's gonna be hating me.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to deal with it. He won't if he

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<v Speaker 2>throws a fit about it, he won't get any pumpkins. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what you're gonna do when all

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<v Speaker 1>the critters start coming around, the raccoons and the deer

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<v Speaker 1>and pumpkins.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be out there with my lovell slugger. Get

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<v Speaker 3>your defending the pumpkins, to put some traps out or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't speaking speaking of calling, and I did enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that called into KSR yesterday who was an

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<v Speaker 3>employer calling out Landing for not coming into work. Landing's

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the show every day for five years, so

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're listening out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Landing, come in to work. We need you. Thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good with the Wooly Worm Festival. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>what it was? I don't remember that, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great way to find somebody to call out

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you just call me next time I do that.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of job do you have where you just

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<v Speaker 3>don't show up because you got a lady. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he was insinuating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>lady is what's important is woly Worm was more important

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