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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle.

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Speaker 2: I am Ryan Warmley, joined as always, but not for

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Speaker 2: too much of the Hunger by Mike Mayer. That is

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Speaker 2: my pen ultimate episode, at least through the regular season,

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Speaker 2: before growing back up in the offseason. Just as we

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Speaker 2: get into the time of year with football becoming so

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Speaker 2: prevalent and a larger percentage of my responsibilities, I will

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Speaker 2: find out the time for baseball anymore. But we have

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Speaker 2: two more episodes ago. We have this week, and we

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Speaker 2: have next week to kick off August. I will do

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Speaker 2: my final episode and then we'll get a rotation of

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Speaker 2: guests in here. We're gonna have a lot of Kelly Kirby.

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Speaker 2: We might get some some Welsh, some Bogman, some of

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Speaker 2: our writer. Maybe Tuma comes back. What we got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of names. We're gonna be looking to join Mayor

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Speaker 2: here as we as we get into the kind of

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Speaker 2: home stretch of the Fantasy Baseball Championship run. But I

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Speaker 2: like I've said him here for two more weeks, so

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Some fun today.

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Speaker 2: If you like this content, the best freeway to show

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Speaker 2: your support and encourage more content like this is to

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Speaker 2: leave a positive review at fantasypros dot Com slash MLB review, Mayor,

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about it being my penultimate episode?

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Speaker 2: Are you excited to not have to deal with me anymore?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you asked that, because I was going

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Speaker 3: to commend you on your energy at the open at

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Speaker 3: the top of the show, I was like, well, look

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Speaker 3: at this guy coming in hot, coming in with great energy,

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Speaker 3: And then I realized you were just excited to talk

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Speaker 3: and so now maybe I won't commend.

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Speaker 4: You for that.

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Speaker 2: It's like an energetic form of senioritis, where it's like

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Speaker 2: I'm almost done, I'm in the home stretch.

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Speaker 1: I was actually just telling somebody there.

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Speaker 2: So I only applied to two colleges my senior year

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Speaker 2: because Miszoo was in my top two. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: go to, you know, journalism school, and they're a very

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Speaker 2: applied at like the end of July, the summer before

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Speaker 2: senior year of high school, and I found out in

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Speaker 2: August that I got in, and not only into the university,

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Speaker 2: but into the journalism school, which was kind of the

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Speaker 2: consider going to besides Zoo is Maryland, which is ultimately

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Speaker 4: It was awesome night I applied to one school.

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Speaker 3: But that's a longer story for another day and probably

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Speaker 3: another podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe an off season episode of the cycle.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it.

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Speaker 3: We can go all the way all into my U

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Speaker 2: Me ask you this. Did you do the SAT, the

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Speaker 2: act or both? We had this conversation on Slack as

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Speaker 2: a larger company recently.

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Speaker 4: I did the SAT SAT.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I did both because Missoo was act, Maryland was SAT.

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Speaker 1: And it was funny.

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Speaker 2: They gave you like a conversion chart and the score

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Speaker 2: I got in the act.

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Speaker 1: It was like, what is this roughly convert to? On

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Speaker 2: It was the identical score I got in the SAT.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do a single bit better or worse on

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well, that was a big fat

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Speaker 2: All right, we won't we won't waste our listeners time

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Speaker 2: here round in the bases right at the top. He

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Speaker 2: wanted to kick things off just kind of what are

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Speaker 2: feel like it's worth noting a couple of updates. Christian Yelich.

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Speaker 1: The last I saw it was speculating that he'll be

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there was anything new update on that,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really reminiscent of Ken Griffy Junior and

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Speaker 2: I mean it's just again like outside of like routed

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's hard to imagine he ever even

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Speaker 2: It's just you can never ever have him on your

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Speaker 3: And the brutal thing for me is I'm in this

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Speaker 3: I'm the best team every year, and every year I

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Speaker 2: I used to get in an arguments when I was

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Speaker 2: And I was like, and Trout is unassailably the best

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Speaker 2: So did you you know, was there an angle to

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Speaker 3: Exactly what you said is why I wanted to bring

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Speaker 3: fantas spros dot com, slash chat and talk baseball and

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Speaker 3: football and all the other sports. But you know, people

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Speaker 3: And we're really now at the time of the year,

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Speaker 3: like you said, where you have to start making tough

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Speaker 3: best case scenario for him is like eight is eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, before we get to the other player,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Cees as we're recording, just completed a no hitter

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Speaker 1: Today he completed it.

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Speaker 2: Was he threw one hundred and fourteen pitches, three walks,

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Speaker 2: nine strikeouts. He had one hundred miles per hour on

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Speaker 2: bringing heat late in the game. But yeah, he literally

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Speaker 2: just as you were talking, he completed the no hitter.

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Speaker 1: So good job for Dy. Dylan Cease always a fun thing.

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Speaker 2: Just a second in Padre's history, so you know, relatively

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Speaker 2: think that's an auto win, regardless of what they do

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Speaker 2: in the second attic. Obviously he wasn't. He was a

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Speaker 2: part of this one, but yeah, Congresses don't cease. Very

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Speaker 2: nice outing from him. Wanted to at least mention that

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Speaker 2: since it literally just happened. The other player you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about is Yama Modo from the Dodgers, obviously,

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Speaker 2: somebody who like has been you know, in a fantasy

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Speaker 2: fourteen starts, seventy four innings, pitched, eighty four strikeouts, a

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Speaker 1: Very very good pitcher, and he's been out for a bit.

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Speaker 1: Here what was your update here?

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Speaker 3: It was kind of the same thing with Ozzy. Albi's

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Speaker 2: I think it was like early May about how kind

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Speaker 2: if anything, it's become even more top heavy as Kyle

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Speaker 1: It's the names everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is minus three fifty, Gunnar Henderson plus four fifty,

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Speaker 3: I think Judge is probably the best bet, even though

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Speaker 3: I have to wait nine months to see if it cashes.

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Speaker 3: So I'm probably not going to bet Aaron Judges minus

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Speaker 3: it just because of the home runs. Because this the

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Speaker 3: that kind of production. Real quick, you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: It's I'll give you the order and the number you

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I I mean, I pulled up their stats

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Speaker 2: they're all over six point two War. By the way,

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Speaker 3: Rant another day about how much I hate more, but

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Speaker 2: I think I forget if I said Judges is six

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Speaker 2: point seven a Gunner Hunderson six and a half, two

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Speaker 2: But I probably am not gonna bet on Soto, but

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Speaker 3: To see yeah, and I'm with you. I never I

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Speaker 3: I think the path for him is he's gonnae he's

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Speaker 3: to not get sixty home runs because if Judge gets

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Speaker 3: the sixty home runs, it's automatic he's winning, because that's

439
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Speaker 3: just like a historic season, not as this historic as

440
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Speaker 3: it was in the past, because he's already done, you know,

441
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 3: sixty plus home runs. But there's no way that Judge

442
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Speaker 3: hit sixty home runs, it doesn't win the MVP unless

443
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,959
Speaker 3: unless he hit sixty home runs and the Yankees continue

444
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Speaker 3: their free fall and don't make the playoffs as I

445
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 3: predicted last week, then maybe he doesn't.

446
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 2: If Wit kind of, like not single handedly because they've

447
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: had some other surprises, but if he like leads this

448
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 2: Royals team to the playoffs, I mean he leads them

449
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 2: to like the Nlcentral title or something like that really

450
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 2: helps him. But like even if if he kind of

451
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Speaker 2: spearheads this team to the playoffs, like and I think

452
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 2: those are the exact milestones I was thinking in my

453
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Speaker 2: head too. A thirty forty season plus something like a

454
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Speaker 2: three forty batting average while playing shortstop, Like.

455
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Speaker 1: That's pretty compelling.

456
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 2: I mean, all four of these guys are probably gonna

457
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Speaker 2: end with a war over eight if like nine or

458
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 2: even in double digits for one or two of them.

459
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: Like again, it's pretty pretty bokers. So just wanted to

460
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Speaker 2: highlight that because they're all awesome and really fun players

461
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: and I hate that two of them a Yankees.

462
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a bit about some.

463
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Speaker 2: Of these recent hot streaks in my head to head

464
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Speaker 2: points league, which you know, everybody's league scoring is a

465
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 2: little different. But in that head dead points league that

466
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: I often reference for our pitching stuff, the number one

467
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: player over the last six weeks I think it is.

468
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Speaker 2: It's over a month. It's either five or six weeks.

469
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Speaker 2: I forget which which range I did, is Brent Rooker.

470
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Speaker 2: It's not Bobby Wood Junior. It's not Aaron Judge, it's

471
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Speaker 2: not got her Head. It's Brent Rooker. We often joke

472
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Speaker 2: on the show because say so and so is the

473
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Speaker 2: best player in baseball. Brent Rooker has been the best player,

474
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Speaker 2: at least in my league in baseball for over a

475
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Speaker 2: month now.

476
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Speaker 1: He has been awesome.

477
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Speaker 2: He had you know, he obviously had a lot of

478
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Speaker 2: power last year as well, and I kind of talked

479
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: about him as kind of one of the honorable mentions

480
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: of like first half surprises, like I've been under the radar, honestly.

481
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: His career batting average though to forty nine this year

482
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 2: it's two ninety. Like the average jump has been really

483
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: significant for him obviously, Like he's hit twenty three home

484
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: runs this year. Last year he hit thirty in the

485
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: whole season, and he's already at twenty three this year,

486
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Speaker 2: Like I said, he's just absolutely been on fire, like

487
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: playing for a very bad team, like imagine in a

488
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Speaker 2: better lineup.

489
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Speaker 1: I'm really curious.

490
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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a bit about some trade candidate stuff

491
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: coming up, like if they were willing to trade him

492
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Speaker 2: to go to I mean a team like the Orioles

493
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: could certainly use a right handed hitting outfielder, like we're

494
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: really good going anywhere, Like, would be really exciting to

495
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Speaker 2: see him in a better lineup in a better ballpark.

496
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 2: Not that kem They Yards would be much much better

497
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Speaker 2: of a ballpark, but anyways, the point is Brettrocker has

498
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Speaker 2: been like amazing, and the you know, the stat cast

499
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Speaker 2: data is very red. I mean it's very it seems

500
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Speaker 2: very legitimate. He's not fluking into this. To what degree

501
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Speaker 2: would you consider him like I've seen not by low

502
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: but like a bye high even Like do you think

503
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 2: this this hot streak has lasted long enough that it's like,

504
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: is he just one of the best hitters in Fantasy

505
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: baseball now or do you still think it's would you

506
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: still classify it as just a hot streak and not

507
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: a player maybe having like a lake Lake career leveling up?

508
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: I think it's more than a hot streak, because even

509
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: even outside of this hot streak, he's having a really

510
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: good year. You kind of highlighted some of the numbers.

511
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: He was doing this in April, you know, like he

512
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere in April. It is,

513
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, hitting for power, and a lot of people

514
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Speaker 3: at the time are like, all right, this is interesting,

515
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 3: like ride the hotstrike while you can. But he's probably

516
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: not going to last, Like he's never he's not going

517
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Speaker 3: to keep hitting for this, you know this consistently, and he.

518
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Speaker 4: Just kind of has.

519
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Speaker 3: I was just looking at you know, my favorite page,

520
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Speaker 3: the VVR page, the stats page while you were talking,

521
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Speaker 3: and he's twenty two twenty. He's the twenty you know,

522
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: top twenty two, top twenty five player hitter in Fantasy

523
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Speaker 3: this year.

524
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Speaker 4: And that's all season.

525
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: That's you know, obviously that's including the hot streak, but

526
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: that's all year, and that's it's not that easy to

527
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Speaker 3: get into that, you know, unless you're just producing consistent

528
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: for a long period of time to get that, you know,

529
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Speaker 3: that that high on the list.

530
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Speaker 4: And so I think it's kind of time to take

531
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Speaker 4: him seriously.

532
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: And you know, I never actually wrote him up as

533
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: a as a cell high this season, I looked at

534
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: him a bunch of times as a potential cell high

535
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: because I have you know, we have to cover them

536
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: each week. I have to write about them each week,

537
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: and so I try to pick new players every week.

538
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: And you know, we're several weeks into the season. There's

539
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: a lot of names to pick from. And I've looked

540
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: at Brent Rooker a bunch of times as a potential

541
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Speaker 3: sell high, and each time I talk myself out of it.

542
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Speaker 3: And so that tells me he must be doing something

543
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: well if I keep you know, if if he's the

544
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Speaker 3: potential low hanging fruit, and I keep saying I keep

545
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: looking under the hood and saying, nope, this actually.

546
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Speaker 4: Looks pretty legitimate. I guess I'll keep moving on look

547
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Speaker 4: for someone else.

548
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Speaker 2: It's always tricky when a guy does this at you know,

549
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: the age of twenty nine. Like again, he was good

550
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: last year, you know, at twenty eight, but like you

551
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: just we're so accustomed to if you're gonna break out,

552
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: it's gonna be when you're younger. But sometimes it does happen,

553
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 2: you know, like career as an Orioles fan, I've noticed

554
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: it with Ryan o'harn and we talked about him early

555
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: on this season. I mean, Brett Rukers stack caast page again,

556
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: ninety seven percentile expected WILBA ninety eighth percentile expect it's lugging.

557
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Speaker 1: Average.

558
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Exit velocity is ninety first percentile, barrel rate ninety eight percentile,

559
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: hard hit rate ninety third percentile, sweet spot rate ninety

560
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: seven percent stile. He's been awesome. He's impacting the ball.

561
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he strikes out a lot. That's the downside

562
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: over thirty. I mean, my head dead points league is

563
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: pretty significantly negative on strikeouts, like most are. And he's

564
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: still been good enough that he's been the highest scoring

565
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Speaker 2: hitter over the last month.

566
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Speaker 3: Plus walks a good amount to His strikeout rate is

567
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Speaker 3: over thirty percent, but his walk rates over ten percent,

568
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Speaker 3: So he is thrones and walks in there.

569
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Speaker 4: And I was looking.

570
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Speaker 3: He's batting two ninety which is kind of absurd for

571
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Speaker 3: that strikeout rate, But his expected banning average is still

572
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 3: two seventy one, still really solid. You know, even that

573
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: completely regresses, that's still a good banning average.

574
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Speaker 1: I would call him a bye high.

575
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be giving up like a somebody I believe

576
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Speaker 2: in is like a first round bat for him. I'm

577
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Speaker 2: not saying buy at any cost, but I would be

578
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: willing to say at this point it's more than legitimate.

579
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: I will spend reasonable market value for his hot streak

580
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: and expected to relatively continue. So that's been really exciting.

581
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Speaker 2: His teammate Lawrence Butler. You we were just talking before

582
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Speaker 2: the show.

583
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Speaker 1: Are somewhat shocked to see how hot he's been lately?

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking a little bit about the show

585
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Speaker 3: and the same thing. I was looking at like wave

586
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Speaker 3: you know, waiver candidates for this week and then writing

587
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 3: the Bilo cell high and I I was sorting, you know,

588
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: different lists to try and see, you know, I try

589
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: to look at like expected numbers, like who's really standing

590
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: out and expected numbers, you know where I can you know,

591
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: reasonably project some some easy regression there.

592
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 4: And then I also look.

593
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: At like who's been really hot, who's been really cold?

594
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: And I looked at like, I think it was for

595
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Speaker 3: the entire month of July, who like the hottest hitters were,

596
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: and lo and behold Laurence Butler number two. And so

597
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: I was kind of shocked by that. And so then

598
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: I started looking at into him a little bit more.

599
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: I ended up not writing him up just because he's

600
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: been so hot and I don't necessarily know what to

601
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: make of it. His minor league numbers are kind of

602
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: all over the place, but he's been fairly consistent with Like.

603
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: The interesting thing is, batting average is down compared to

604
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: what he's done, at least in the minor leagues, but

605
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: you can.

606
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 4: You can expect that, you know, going up a level.

607
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: He's batting two fifty four, he's got ten home runs

608
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: in seventy games, and he's just been on an incredible

609
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: hot streak. Expect that batting average is actually higher. You

610
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: don't see that a lot in a player that's been

611
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: this hot. Or he's batting two fifty four expected batting

612
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: average two fifty nine, so he actually could be getting

613
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: a bit even luckier. I granted that's for the full

614
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: season sample size and not just this hot streak, but yeah,

615
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: pretty I would not necessarily bet on this continuing the

616
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: rest of the season.

617
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 4: But did someone not a lot of people know about, do.

618
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: You think this is a scenario of him taking a

619
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: step forward because he hit two home runs through May,

620
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 2: like he was very bad in April and May not

621
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: even just like the lack of power, right, I mean

622
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: he was I think batting average at the end of

623
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: a was like one seventy nine or something.

624
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it was he was really bad.

625
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: And then now in June he's been one of the

626
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: best hitters in baseball. Or you know, he was in

627
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: in the you know, into July, rather so I might

628
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: I might have said May it was through June that

629
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: he was struggling. But anyways, he's been amazing this month.

630
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: Do you think it's a case of him leveling up

631
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: or do you think it's more hot streak.

632
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: I lean hot streak, but I also I also get that,

633
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: you know, if you just pull up his stats and

634
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: you just kind of look at his path through the

635
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: minor leagues, you kind of see like it's almost even

636
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: hard to look at because he's got he's jumped from

637
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: each level to each level to each level, and so

638
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: you don't have a ton of full season sample sizes

639
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: at each level because you know, he was in rookie

640
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: ball for forty six games, and he was in Low

641
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: A for fifty five games, and he was in A

642
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: for eighty eight games, and he was in High A

643
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: for fourteen games, and he was in High A the

644
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: following year for eighty one games, and then Double A

645
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: sixty seven games, and it goes on and on. There's

646
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: no real full sample size in there where you can see,

647
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, just like a full season at one level,

648
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: but you can also see like he kind of progresses

649
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: and gets a little bit better at each level. Last

650
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: year in the major is not good. Forty two games

651
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: batted two to eleven, walk grate non existent, twenty seven

652
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: cent strikeout right, four home runs, and forty two games,

653
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: you know, not great numbers. And then his minor league

654
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: numbers this year in twenty seven games, four home runs,

655
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: batt two fifty five. So essentially what he's doing at

656
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: the major league level now, and so it's hard to say,

657
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: is this, you know, he's only twenty three. Is this

658
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: him figuring out the major leagues? And it just kind

659
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: of taking that, you know, taking that next step. We've

660
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: seen a lot of young hitters come up and struggle

661
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: and then very slowly, it feels like recently starts to

662
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: turn things around. I lean hot streak, but I also

663
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: would not be shocked if this was just him just

664
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: becoming a major league hitter.

665
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: He only just turned twenty four, so you know, certainly

666
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: young enough that you could it's very reasonable to imagine

667
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: him taking a step Forwardmately, I want to talk about

668
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: Tyler Fitzgerald. He we just recently hit a home run

669
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: in five straight games. He's twenty six years old. Obviously

670
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: with the Giants, he is batting three twenty three this season.

671
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: In ninety three at bats, he has six home runs,

672
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: seven stolen bases. His OPS is over a thousand right now.

673
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: His ops plus is one eighty seven. Obviously, smaller sample size.

674
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Some of the you know bat of all data is

675
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: less encouraging that. The average EGSIT velocity is pretty low.

676
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: The hard hit rate's pretty low, but like expect batting

677
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: average is two sixty one. It's significally lower than it

678
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: is right now, but it's not abysmal expected wOBA three

679
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: forty five. His sweet spot rate is like again, it's

680
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: he doesn't have enough you know, swings to really qualify

681
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: in statcast, but it's basically like one hundred percent sile.

682
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Uh if he did qualify.

683
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: Uh, he's very fast as sprint speed twenty nine point

684
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: seven feet per second.

685
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: That's just just south of elite elite. What do you

686
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: make of him?

687
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: Is his somebody who just happened to have a really

688
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: good week that is because it's a small sample size

689
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: making his numbers look better, or are you maybe making

690
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: him a speculative ad or more than a speculative ad.

691
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: Well, I think it can kind of be both.

692
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Given what we were talking about with those injuries, that

693
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: it's kind of at the time of the year where

694
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: the sample size almost doesn't matter. Now, if he's hot

695
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: and he's hat for two weeks, two weeks is a

696
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: significant part of the rest of the season, you know,

697
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: and so maybe you do pick him up, ride him.

698
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: If he goes called, you drop him, and you know,

699
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: maybe you have one of those roster spots. Maybe you're

700
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: rostering Ozzi Alpis and who's not going to be around

701
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: for eight weeks. Two weeks of Tyler Fitzgerald might be

702
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: better than eight weeks and not having Izy Albi's I

703
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: would gather it probably is, as long as he doesn't

704
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: just completely fault flat and hurt you everywhere. It's hard

705
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: to get too excited about someone who, granted he hit

706
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: five home runs in five days, he said, to give

707
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: him six home runs on the year. Granted that's only

708
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: in forty forty games, but those are all of his

709
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: home runs. You mentioned his expected adding averagon as that

710
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: guy's two sixty to one fangrafts is two fifty four,

711
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: so it's even lower. So that's you know, that's indicating

712
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 3: a lot of luck there with some of that contact numbers.

713
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: Those contact numbers, he is walking a decent amount, which

714
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: has been a thing he's done throughout the miners, so

715
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: you know, you can you you can expect that is

716
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: probably going to continue. It's it's pretty much identical. It's

717
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: ten point five percent. He's been right around between like

718
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: nine and a half and eleven and a half give

719
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: her take, throughout his minor league career, so that's pretty

720
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: standard for him. Yeah, I feel like I'm less excited

721
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: about Tyler Fitzgerald than I am about the other two.

722
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: But it's it's it's just hard to say.

723
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: But like I said, if he's he's gonna be hot

724
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: for another week, pick him up and you know, see

725
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: what he got. And if he gets cold, the second

726
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: he gets cold, drop him.

727
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: By the way, I saw one of the homers in

728
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: person with the Giants Rockies game, which is about his

729
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: nondescriptive game as you can go to if you're not

730
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: a fan of either team.

731
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: But a buddy invited me over the weekend, so that

732
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: was fun.

733
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: That was the game where Solaire led off with is

734
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: like four hundred seventy eight foot bomb to a straightaway center?

735
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: Is it one hundred degrees like the Phillies Braves game

736
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: I went to.

737
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: No, it was.

738
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: It was very overcast actually, and we got a little

739
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: rain during the game. It didn't there's no delay or anything,

740
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: but it was a little bit cooler. Actually, last player here,

741
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: Brenton Doyle has been very good as a Lady's got

742
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: seventeen home runs on the season, hitting two seventy nine,

743
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: also twenty stolen bases ops. Is over eight hundred outfielder

744
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: for the Rockies. You know, the stat cast data is

745
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: kind of.

746
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: In the middle. It's not particularly amazing.

747
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: It's not particularly bad. Obviously, he's somebody with speed, he's

748
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: a very good defensive player, and he's hit really well.

749
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: You know throughout the course of the season. What do

750
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: you make a Doyle moving forward?

751
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: So he's another one that I was looking at recently

752
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: and I just kind of like, this wasn't like this week.

753
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: This was maybe right around the All Star break when

754
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: I was doing some research just to look at like

755
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: first halfs and you know, trying to formulate some second

756
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: half strategies because I really enjoyed that, like that break

757
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: over the All Star break where you just kind of

758
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: catch your breath and I look at some first hair

759
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: performances and I'm just scrolling through my favorite page on

760
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: Fantasy Pros and I'm looking at the names and there's

761
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, the names you would expect

762
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: at the top, Bobby wid Of, Tani Cruz, Judge Soto,

763
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: and I start getting into you know, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

764
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: and it's Jose Ramirez, Marcelo Zuna, Catel Marte, Francisco Lindor,

765
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: Jose josel Tube number thirteen, Breton Doyle, the top thirteen

766
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: player first half of the season.

767
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: And it's just like you said, kind of like.

768
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: Quietly, he's not someone you hear a lot about unless

769
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: you're in the fantasy community. And even if you are,

770
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: he seems kind of, I don't want to say, unexciting,

771
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: but you just he doesn't get a ton of credit

772
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: for what he's doing this year, and he's having a

773
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: really solid year. Seventeen home runs, twenty stolen bases, on

774
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: pace for thirty thirty with a two seventy six average

775
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: on a bad team.

776
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: Probably not going to get.

777
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: One hundred hundred RB runs because he's at fifty nine

778
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: runs fifty one RBI. Probably not going to go one

779
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: hundred hundred there based on that pace. But a guy

780
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: on pace for thirty thirty batting over to seventy, that's,

781
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: you know, a really high draft pick if you if

782
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: you pick.

783
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: He's got the rockies, you think on him though.

784
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is like the one prospect they haven't

785
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: ruined in the last fifteen years.

786
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's talk a little bit about the

787
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: trade deadline. The next time we talk it will be

788
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: after the trade deadline, right, do I have my calendar right?

789
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: July thirtieth is the trade deadline, which is before next week. Hey,

790
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: I wish it was July thirty first, I wish it

791
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: was still midnight. I wish I was still staying up late,

792
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: like watching four hours of coverage for two trades to

793
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: be announced, Like I'm all in on doing that.

794
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it now that

795
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: I cheer for a team that's actually good and has

796
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 2: prospects to spare. There's been so much discussion in Orioles

797
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: Twitter about like, you know, can they get Schooble, can

798
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: they should they go after Crochet? Sure they you know,

799
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: reunite with jack Flaherty.

800
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: And that would be a wild one.

801
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: They're well, the they're open to it, but there's a

802
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: lot of like, you know, who are they willing to

803
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: part with? Right, And Jackson Holliday is the obvious, you know,

804
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: top choice for other teams, but he's very likely to

805
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: very unlikely to be moved.

806
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: I would expect he's gonna say there's no way they're

807
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: moving him, right.

808
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, because this is the first trade deadline

809
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: where we've we don't know what Michael Yas is gonna

810
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: do when it's hey, you are actually win now mode

811
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: and your team's really good and has an obvious need,

812
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: and there's guys on the market who fill that need,

813
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: but it takes one of your elite prospects, Like I

814
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: genuinely don't know. I would imagine Jackson Holliday is not

815
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: getting moved though I wouldn't move him. But the other

816
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: thing is like I'm not sure I would even move

817
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: Kobe Mayo or Samuel Bisio, Like those are kind of

818
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: the big three in Baltimore.

819
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: Of like truly truly like from.

820
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: What we've seen in the minors at their respective ages

821
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: and their respective levels, like truly special bats.

822
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Potentially like Pisio. I think it's a little under.

823
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: You know, discussed because he plays the same position as

824
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: Adle and he's a little bit younger.

825
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: He's an international guy.

826
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: There was a chart going around Oriels Twitter over the

827
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: off season that was comparing him in his age eighteen

828
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: season and what level he was at and what his

829
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: like triple slash line was to like seven other guys

830
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: and the names I forget everyone, but it was like Tatis.

831
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: Vladdie Soto, like it was the best.

832
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: It's actually the best international prospects that we've had in

833
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: the last you know, decade, and he was better than

834
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: all of them in his age eighteen season and at

835
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: a higher level. That's not to say he's gonna be

836
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: the next one of those guys, but it was obviously

837
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: super impressive. You know, Kobe Meyo is gonna be up

838
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: any week. You would think with the majors they could

839
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: sure use the spark and then Holiday is in ever

840
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: one prospect to Baseball. So like I, this is, you know,

841
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: very much a detour that we didn't need to take.

842
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: But I say all that to say, I'm really interested

843
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: to see with what the Oriols do because it's the

844
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: first time that we've had a trade deadline in a

845
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: while that I care as a buyer and not as

846
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: a seller, and they have the depth to move other

847
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: people too. It might not get them an ace, but

848
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. We did want to hit on

849
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: just if there are kind of names that kind of

850
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: fit into our buy sell discussion based.

851
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: On what we expect app with the trade deadline.

852
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: Kind of how you should be approaching it as a

853
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: fantasy manager. Do you have a specific strategy when it

854
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: comes to navigating as a fantasy manager the MLB trade deadline?

855
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: So the main thing I try to focus on this

856
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: time of year is try and this is something we

857
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: talked about a few weeks ago as we were getting

858
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: closer to the trade deadline, to try and get some

859
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: of these you know, get some of these trades before

860
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: you start getting into the trade deadline, because then prices

861
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: in terms of fantasy baseball trades can get a little

862
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: bit all over the place. But kind of projecting whose

863
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: role is going to change. If you have a closer

864
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: on a bad team and you're getting some saved from him,

865
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: he might not be a closer in three weeks. So

866
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: maybe now you know three weeks ago, two weeks ago

867
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: was the time to sell. You can probably still sell

868
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: heading into this weekend. But the main thing for me

869
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: is to just monitor roles, monitor who's likely to move,

870
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: who is likely going to a better scenario, worse scenario,

871
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: kind of a thing whose value.

872
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: Like might not change.

873
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 3: One name I wanted to bring up was Eric Fetti

874
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: because he was someone I was looking at as a

875
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: potential buy low candidate just because he's on the White Sox.

876
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: But looking at his stats, I couldn't really justify him

877
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: as a as a bilow candidate because his ERA was

878
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: below three and despite being on the White Sox, he's

879
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: still has seven wins. So you can't even say, look,

880
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: these guy's on the White Sox, he's not getting any

881
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: getting any wins. He already has seven wins here. You know,

882
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: he's already having a solid season despite being on the

883
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: white side, on the White Sox. But he's the kind

884
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: of person that if I can buy him for fair

885
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: market value or below market value because he's on the

886
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: White Sox, maybe you try and buy him now because

887
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: he might be on the Orioles next week, you know,

888
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: and be in a much better situation.

889
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: So it's players like that.

890
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: It's a little bit harder to do as we're getting

891
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: closer and closer to the trade deadline because people, you know,

892
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: some people are dumb. Some people are not dumb, and

893
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: they know why you're trying to to acquire players. But

894
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: if you can kind of dig a little bit deeper

895
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: into the news and try to project where some of

896
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: these players are going to go and if they can move,

897
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: you can get some value here because there's someone on

898
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: a bad team who's worth X right now, who's going

899
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: to be worth why next week when he's in a

900
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: better lineup in a better ballpark. And so just kind

901
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: of paying attention to that news that that's my you know,

902
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: it seems like high level, like surface level advice, but

903
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: also that I think it's underrated at this time of year.

904
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: The bullpen guys are the ones that really typically stand out,

905
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, like a Kyle Finn again or somebody, I mean,

906
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: somebody like Mason Miller. If he gets moved, like, he's

907
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: very likely going to still be the closer, right, So

908
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: it's probably not that big a deal. And in fact, he'd

909
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: probably get more safe opportunities somewhere other than Oakland, because

910
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: it seems like the only times they win games are

911
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: when they score like eighteen runs, and it's not even

912
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: a safe opportunity. But you know, some of these, some

913
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: of the like Tanner Scott, if he gets moved, I

914
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna be the closer wherever he goes, right,

915
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: So guys like that that are gonna lose those saves,

916
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: sell if you can, and I mean it's harder, it's

917
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: harder to do this, but if if there is a

918
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: clear this is the guy who's going to replace him

919
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: in the bullpen, you probably don't even have to buy them.

920
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: If they're not depending on how deep the league is,

921
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: you can go pick him up right now. And I

922
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: would I would definitely speculatively pick up guys in the

923
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: next week who you think could step into the closer

924
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: role if the guy ahead of them gets traded, and

925
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: then guys like like I said, like Brent Rooker, like

926
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna move or not, but

927
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: like if he let's say, let's say the Yankees are like, listen,

928
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: we have two great hitters and the rest of our

929
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 2: team kind of is rubbish. Let's go get Brent Rooker.

930
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna love him hitting in that ballpark, right, I mean,

931
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: I think there's like opportunities for hitters like that on

932
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: bad teams. That would make a lot of sense that

933
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: maybe that are older. The other name that you had written,

934
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: jazz Chism. I'm sorry, go ahead of that. I was

935
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 2: gonna say the other name, like jazz Chism. I've seen

936
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: him rumored to, like maybe the Yankees. That would be

937
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: huge for his value, like a left handed hitting jazz

938
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: Chism in that lineup, like a very top heavy lineup.

939
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, they don't necessarily need more outfielders, but they

940
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: need more bats and someone with that kind of power

941
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: in that lineup.

942
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: He could be a lot more valuable than he is

943
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: on the Marlins.

944
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. The other day that you had written

945
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: down is Garrett Crochet. There was a news update that

946
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: he is going to pitch as normally, like as if

947
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: there's no kind of concerns about the arms and innings.

948
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: But he's not going to pitch in October unless the

949
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: team that trades for him gives him an extension.

950
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: Did I have that right? I was just reading that

951
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: right before we started recording.

952
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a weird update. It was.

953
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: It was a report that came out from John Hammond.

954
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: He said his plan with the White Sox is to

955
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: pitch pitches normal workload and until the end of the season,

956
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: and then if traded, he would need an extension to

957
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: pitch in October and then he's not going to move

958
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: to the bullpen, and Will is not planning to take

959
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: any break, and that he views that as the best

960
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: routine for his health going forward. It's a weird kind

961
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: of stance to make publicly. I feel like it kind

962
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: of hurts his trade value. Yeah, it's like, yeah, like

963
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: I would love to come and pitch for you guys,

964
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: but I'm going to be in complete control of my workload.

965
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: And also like if you want me even going near

966
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: the playoffs, like I'm gonna need I'm gonna need to

967
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: be paid right now.

968
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: I like can't really blame him because given like the

969
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: background with his arm and his innings totals and like

970
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: pitching into October that, I mean, that makes a massive

971
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: step forward and workload even more massive. So like I

972
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: get like wanting to kind of get the bag, but

973
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: also like part of the appeal of Crochet is that

974
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: he's under team control for multiple more years after this season.

975
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: Like I know, again from the Orioles perspective, like, you know,

976
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: we could trade for him, and even if he's like

977
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: kind of only a bullpen arm in October, he could

978
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: be the Cortman Burns replacement next or something like that.

979
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: Thought has gone around, as you know on Oriel Twitter.

980
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: But like if you have to sign to extension, you

981
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: kind of miss out on some of those cheap deals,

982
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: you know, years likely of team control.

983
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: So I you know, it makes me less interested in

984
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: trading for him, is how.

985
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 3: I think it makes everyone less interested in trading for him.

986
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: I think that's the point. I think it's a weird thing.

987
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: And it's also like if you want to have your

988
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: agent say that to teams, like, look, you can, you

989
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 3: can trade for me. I plan on staying a starter.

990
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: I want to make sure we're on the same page

991
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: about that, and I also want to make sure I've

992
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: never had this workload before. And so if if we're

993
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: going to pitch into October. I want to start talking

994
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: extension and like make sure we're on the same page.

995
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: I feel like that conversation is fine to have, but

996
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: to like have this come out publicly before you're even traded,

997
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: Like it comes off very much like a diva.

998
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean whether or not he actually is

999
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: being a diva.

1000
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Again, I'm all four players getting the bag, especially at

1001
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: a position like pitcher, but I think that's kind of

1002
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: the perspective.

1003
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: That's that's how it comes across. So I get that.

1004
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Let's kind loot this conversation into just our bilo cell

1005
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: high for the week, my favorite bilo And this is

1006
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: again I'm drawing from our sixth Fantasy Baseball Players to

1007
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: Trade Now article which dropped yesterday on the site Fantasypros

1008
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: dot com, and I'm picking kind of my favorite ones

1009
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: that were highlighted by the analysts. And I am loath

1010
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: to give Joey p credit on anything, but he does

1011
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: have my favorite pick this week of the Bilow targets,

1012
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: and that's Blake Snell. As Joe points out in his blurb,

1013
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Snell's got an era of five thirty eight and a

1014
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: whip of one thirty seven. Doesn't sound that great, but

1015
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: he's been much better since returning from the IL. His

1016
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: last two starts, he has twelve strikeouts and two walks,

1017
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: has given up just two earned runs across thirteen innings.

1018
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: And the point that I liked that Joe made really

1019
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: is that while he has been really bad for whoever

1020
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: took him this year, he was a late signing who

1021
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: got off to a slow start, but not unexpectedly given

1022
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: the fact that you know he was you know what

1023
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: his off season looked like, and then he had an injury.

1024
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: But when he's right, which maybe this is him figuring out,

1025
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: and just it took later in the season again like

1026
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: we probably would have expected given what the offseason looks like.

1027
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: If he is now getting right, he can be a

1028
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: difference maker down the stretch. So I like him as

1029
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: a BILO for that reason. And again, the stats are

1030
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: such that you might be able to get him for

1031
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: cheap because they look pretty ugly.

1032
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like Blake Snow.

1033
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm not big on him.

1034
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: Well, well, here's here's the other thing I'll say.

1035
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't the longest article this week, so

1036
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: I didn't have that many names to pick from No, I.

1037
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: Get I get the appeal.

1038
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: But I do I do like I do agree with you.

1039
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't just pick him because I know

1040
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: other options.

1041
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: I think I get the case Joe's making, and I

1042
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: agree with it more than you do.

1043
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I agree with it.

1044
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: I just you know, I want to give you and

1045
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: if I can give you and Joe a hard time

1046
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: with like one sentence, with the same sentence, I'm going

1047
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: to you know, I'm going to take that value and

1048
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: slam it home every time. But I get the like,

1049
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: the numbers are really bad. He's dropped in a lot

1050
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: of leagues, And so when you're talking about bilows so high,

1051
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: it's as much about thinking the player is going to

1052
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: bounce back and be really valuable as it is what

1053
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: the value is right now and what the price is

1054
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: right now, because you can get him for cheap and

1055
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: if if you can, like there's really high you know, high.

1056
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: Upside there is. It's how young award winner. You know,

1057
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: you don't win those by accident.

1058
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: You know, even if he's a little bit overrated throughout

1059
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: the course of his career, he's also got an array

1060
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: over five and he's not gonna have an the Arra

1061
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: over five the whole season, and.

1062
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: So that in that sense, he's a bilo.

1063
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: My pitcher is Zach Eflin, someone I've talked about earlier

1064
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: in the year in the show, and I'm kind of

1065
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: contradicting myself.

1066
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: I liked him as a pitcher on the Rays.

1067
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: I liked them to be able to figure out everything

1068
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: for him, and I liked his upside.

1069
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to take a.

1070
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: Step forward after a big step forward last year, they

1071
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: was gonna do it again this year, and it just

1072
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: it's been a really weird year for him. It's been

1073
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: a weird year for the Raise. I think he's someone

1074
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: going back to our other trade conversation.

1075
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: I think he could be on the move.

1076
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: I've seen him floated as a possible candidate for the

1077
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: Braves and Brewers of the Cardinals. I think all three

1078
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: of those could be better landing spots for him. I

1079
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: particularly like the Braves still land him. And he's someone

1080
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, it's been a weird year.

1081
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: He's probably affordable for you in your fantasy league right now,

1082
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 3: and I think you can get him for a fair price.

1083
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: And I think he still has a lot of upside.

1084
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to hit my early season

1085
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 3: preseason prediction of him getting al Sign Award votes, but

1086
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: I do think he can still be valuable for you,

1087
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: especially going to like a better team, better pallpark, better situation.

1088
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 3: I think he just needs a reset and not being

1089
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: Tropicana anymore.

1090
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 2: My favorite Cell High is the guy that you picked,

1091
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: so since you already picked him, I went with Kelly's

1092
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: pick in the article, which is Trey Turner.

1093
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: Obviously huge name value.

1094
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: As she points out, the expected line is much lower

1095
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: in every I mean, his inspected batting average is like

1096
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: fifty plus points lower than his current batting average. Expected

1097
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: on base percentage much lower, expected slugging much lower. I mean,

1098
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: it's there's there's a long way to drop. If he

1099
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: does kind of regress to the mean, you know he'll run,

1100
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: So you can kind of sell him on the soul bases,

1101
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: as Kelly points out, and again their name recognition, like

1102
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: you can probably get somebody really good for him. And

1103
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: again we're talking about selling Hi, not selling at any cost.

1104
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: So that was my favorite pick this week. I could

1105
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: not pick two Joey p selections, so I went with

1106
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: Kelly's here and I genuinely.

1107
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: Like what she's kind of selling with with Trey Turner.

1108
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: No pun intended, so but like I said, my favorite

1109
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: one was actually the one that you picked.

1110
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I picked his equal Tovar.

1111
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: He could have been in our hot hitters section because

1112
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 3: he's been really hot the last couple of weeks. And

1113
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: that's exactly why I want to sell him. He's been

1114
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: really hot. Numbers are really good. Season long numbers look

1115
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: pretty good now, but a lot of that is because

1116
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: of the recent hot streak. He's just been so hot.

1117
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: He just had I think he's up to eleven game

1118
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: hitting streak now with another home run. But when I

1119
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 3: wrote this yesterday, it was a ten game hitting streak,

1120
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: and seven of those ten games had multiple hits, and

1121
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: there's also four home runs thrown in there too, And

1122
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: so it's just he's just been red hot, and he's

1123
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: hot now to the point where the numbers, even if

1124
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: you look at the season loan numbers, they look really

1125
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 3: pretty and shiny, but most of that is inflated by

1126
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 3: the hot streak, and a lot of his expected numbers

1127
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: are not good. And in fact, the difference I always

1128
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: look at the difference between I look at like leaderboards

1129
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 3: of like batting average versus expect the batting average, and

1130
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: I look at like the biggest differences, and I do

1131
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: it for batting average, slugging like ex wOBA, you know

1132
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: expect you know, hard contact and a lot of stuff.

1133
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: And he's like top three, top five in the wrong

1134
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: direction on all of those. And so he's just like

1135
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: screaming quote unquote negative regression. I like to say, So, yeah,

1136
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: he's a sell high for me.

1137
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Could not agree more laid out the case perfectly.

1138
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: I'm totally on board of selling two of ar and

1139
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: I have him in at least one spot where I

1140
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: would love to sell him, and I'm not sure if

1141
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: I'll be able to. All right, let's go to our

1142
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: waivers guys for the week. I went first in Bilo,

1143
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: so hi, so I'll let you go first year.

1144
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: So mine is fairly simple. Nato Alvarez prospect called up

1145
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 3: by the Braves. He's the essentially he's their first attempt

1146
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: at the Azzi Albi's replacement. He's he's batted second in

1147
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: the lineup. I grabbed him on waivers just this past

1148
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: weekend or not just a couple of days ago, kind

1149
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: of speculating the call up when he was when the

1150
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: Azzi Albi news first broke, it was like he got

1151
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: hurt and then my waivers ran in a few hours

1152
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: and I was able to grab him for pretty cheap.

1153
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: And in his first two games he's bad at second

1154
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: in the lineup, and so it's it's pretty speculative. We

1155
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: don't know how he's going to adjust the major league hitting,

1156
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 3: if he's gonna hit the ground running, but it's it's

1157
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: just he's he's a pretty highly regarded prospect. It seems

1158
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: like he's going to hit high in that order unless

1159
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: he completely falls on his face. And so it's just

1160
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: a really cheap roll of the dice to see if

1161
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: you can get a good hitter in what should be

1162
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 3: a good lineup that should be better down the stretch,

1163
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: but haven't been great all year. But yeah, the speculative

1164
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 3: ad Naturo Alvarez.

1165
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: For me, it's somebody who's available in just about every

1166
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: league that you would be playing again.

1167
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: It's Connor Norby.

1168
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the video of the

1169
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: Jorge Mateo injury yesterday or two days ago, whichever game

1170
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: in the Marlin series it was, it looked really ugly.

1171
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: It was like a tough replay to watch.

1172
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: And there is now an opening in this infield because

1173
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: Jackson Holliday wasn't very good to start the year. Uh

1174
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: and now with Mateo hurt, they need The Oels needed

1175
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: another second basement because right now it's just Jordan Westberg,

1176
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: and even he is better at third. So they called

1177
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: him Connor Norby, who has gotten really overlooked because there's

1178
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: so many elite prospects in this organization. He's a former

1179
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: top one hundred prospect who is very I think personally,

1180
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: I think is very major league ready. I mean, he's

1181
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: been really really good at Triple A for a while

1182
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: now and has just been waiting for an opportunity, and

1183
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: we kind of thought an injury was gonna be what

1184
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: it takes to get him the opportunity, and an injury

1185
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: is what happened. And I mean, barring a trade, I

1186
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: think this is going to be the regular second baseman

1187
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: in the Oils lineup. I mean it's either him or

1188
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: Ramonaius pretty much day in and day out, and I'd

1189
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 2: rather take the upside swing on Norby. He's played five

1190
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: games to the major league level this season. He's hit

1191
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: two home runs in those five games. He has at

1192
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: least one hit in four of those games every game

1193
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: since his debut. I think he's a good player, Like

1194
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a superstar. He's going to be

1195
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: a league winner. I think if you haven't eat it infield,

1196
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: he is a quality prospect with the bat who is

1197
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: major league ready and is now playing any really good lineup.

1198
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: Recent slump aside, like, there will be run scoring in,

1199
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, run driving in opportunities in this lineup. So

1200
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: I really like Connor Norby as a prospect. And if

1201
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: he gets traded, because there has been speculation if he

1202
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: gets traded, well, if he does, it's gonna be to

1203
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: a team that wants to start him right away. Like

1204
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: a team's not gonna trade for a guy with this

1205
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: profile at this stage in his minor league career and

1206
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: say we're gonna trade for you than key be in

1207
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: the minors. Like if a team is selling, there's going

1208
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: to be at bats and he will be even more

1209
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: certain I think, to play every day. If he gets traded,

1210
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: he's even he doesn't. He now has the opportunity in Baltimore.

1211
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's deserved a shot since twenty twenty two, so

1212
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: it's time. It's time to see what he can do.

1213
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: And again, like, don't let the fact that he's low

1214
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: in the organizational prospect rankings fool you. Like he is

1215
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: a very good hitting second basement prospect who just happens

1216
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: to be in an organization that has, you know, graduated

1217
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: the likes of Adlaide and Gunner and has Mayo and

1218
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: Posio and Holl like he is. He is very good,

1219
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: even if he's not on that level. So I think

1220
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: he's since he's available everywhere. I think he's a really

1221
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: smart pick up right now, even if he gets traded.

1222
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite pitcher?

1223
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, when we're not on Norby, even

1224
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: if it's just for like a short term thing, if

1225
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: that's the mindset you're thinking, they play eight games next

1226
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: week because they play every day and one of them

1227
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: is a doubleheader, so you do get an extra game

1228
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: next week, if that's relevant to you.

1229
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: Nice, He would be high on my list on quick

1230
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: grades if I was still doing my the old formula

1231
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: for quick grades, but he'd probably still be will be

1232
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: high on the new formula. But my favorite picture this

1233
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 3: week is Daniel Hudson. Very simple it looks like he's

1234
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 3: going to be the closer for the Dodgers, and if

1235
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: not the closer, the favorite to get most of the

1236
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: save opportunities going forward. And so a lot of times

1237
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: I focus on a starting pitcher in this section, but

1238
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: given the situation, I'm gonna I'm gonna grab Daniel Hudson.

1239
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: They could, of course be one of those teams that

1240
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 3: goes out and grabs a closer or a high leverage

1241
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: reliever at the trade deadline, but for now, it could

1242
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: be Daniel Hudson. And if you can get the closer

1243
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: on the Dodgers for the rest this season on waivers,

1244
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: that's a pretty you know, that's a no brainer.

1245
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: I went with Michael Waka of the Royals. Royals, obviously

1246
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: you've been playing well as of late. This is really

1247
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: more of a kind of two start streamer type because

1248
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna make two starts the next week against the

1249
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: White Sox and the Tigers.

1250
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: White Sox, we know we're terrible. The Tigers.

1251
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: This is going to be coming after the trade a

1252
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: deadline that start, so they might look even worse than

1253
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: they do now, and like this might be like a

1254
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: kind of a more deflated roster that is ready to

1255
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: just kind of play out the string this season, So

1256
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: I think those are really nice matchups. Waka has kind

1257
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: of alternated good starts with bad starts since the start

1258
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 2: of July. His last start was a bad one, so

1259
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he's good. He's doing for a good one,

1260
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: And again, I like the matchups. So this is more

1261
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: of a two start streamer type than a kind of

1262
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: a long term favorite waiver guy. But I like walka

1263
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: next week if you, if you, you don't have.

1264
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 3: To hope the Tigers trades and players because they've been hot.

1265
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: They've been hot the last couple of weeks, like shockingly,

1266
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: and people are like they need to buy at the deadline.

1267
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: I'm kind of banking on them trading and making this pick.

1268
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a chance they done? I mean

1269
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: I think they will. Yeah, they might not sell Tak Schooble,

1270
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: but I think they're.

1271
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of arguments that they should trade

1272
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: Schooble just based on how you know.

1273
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: Some of the proposals you see made by fans online

1274
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: are insane. They're like they're like, uh, if you're the Tigers,

1275
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: would you accept holiday Mayo and Besaio for schoo ball

1276
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 2: and Flaherty And I'm like, are you the Orioles would

1277
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: laugh at you if you three top fifteen prospects in baseball,

1278
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: including the number one guy for an ace who has

1279
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 2: had arm stuff in the past, who's not that young,

1280
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: he's got years of team control, but only two Like

1281
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: I think there, I mean, I just think it's you

1282
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 2: can ask for one of those guys for school ball, certainly,

1283
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: like he's a very very good pitcher and might win

1284
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: a cy young this year.

1285
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: But I think some of the folks are delusional.

1286
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: I saw another one that there was like a rumor

1287
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: that the Pirates turned down giving away David Bednar for

1288
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: Kobe Mayo, and all the Pirates fans were like, yeah,

1289
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: that's smart.

1290
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: Why would they give him up for a prospect.

1291
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, you are an idiot if you think the

1292
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: Orioles offered Kobe Mayo.

1293
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: For David Bedner.

1294
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: Anyways, Yes, some of them are delusional, so you'd ever know,

1295
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: hopefully that actual decision makers are a bit smarter and realistic.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the weekend excitement here. You mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 2: Red Sox Yankees. That's just kind of like a cop out.

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Speaker 2: I don't find those series to be that interesting, and

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of them being on Sunday Night Baseball like

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Speaker 2: every other week.

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Speaker 3: I find it very interesting, and I also think it's

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Speaker 3: an interesting time for it.

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Speaker 2: It's a little more interesting right now given what the

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Speaker 2: standings are starting to look like, but in general, I'm

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: not like, oh, Red Sox Yankees, it's got to be

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Speaker 2: on the list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's more interesting for the timing because

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Speaker 3: the Yankees are free falling. The Red Sox I haven't

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Speaker 3: been doing. You know, they were hot going into the

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Speaker 3: All Star Break, and they're one of those teams that

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Speaker 3: has not been hot coming out of the All Star Break.

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Speaker 3: They just left twenty runs to the Rockies yesterday, and

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Speaker 3: they're in a situation where I'm actually happy that they

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00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: locked up Alex Core because I really like Alex cor

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Speaker 3: as a man.

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of the best.

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Speaker 3: But there were rumors that or whisperers or rumblings everyone

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Speaker 3: to put it that he might not be thrilled with

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00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: how you know, I know I was not thrilled with

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Speaker 3: the Heim Bloom experience in Boston. I don't think Alcorra

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00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: was overly enamored with him Blum either, especially when he

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Speaker 3: had multiple times competitive teams at the deadline that the

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Speaker 3: Red Sox didn't didn't buy or they kind of like

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Speaker 3: tried to buy and sell at the same time. And

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Speaker 3: you know, they might very well do that again. And

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Speaker 3: so I think if they kind of didn't do anything

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: to improve this roster, Alix score might have been out

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Speaker 3: the door. So they locked him over the contract extension.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping as a fan that I don't I don't

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00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 3: need them to go out and like, you know, mortgage

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Speaker 3: the farm for you know, some short term help, but

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Speaker 3: I would like them to go out and at least,

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Speaker 3: you know, add an arm to help the bullpen, add

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Speaker 3: an arm, you know, add another arm or a bat here,

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Speaker 3: and see if you can get hot and make a

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Speaker 3: run at it. Like Oddville, don't like the new wild

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00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: card format because it just kind of feels silly and

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00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: like more teams get in and there's more more of

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00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: these owners that are like, well, we don't we really

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00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 3: realistic only have like a seventeen percent chance of putting

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00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: the World Series, So like why bother? Because it's awesome

1342
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: and because seventy percent is not bad, and so just

1343
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: go for it, try to try to win it all,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the Royals went to a World Series.

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00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: You know, anyone can anyone can do it. Like, if

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: you're in a position this ben the gains of a

1347
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: five hundred, you need to go for it. And so

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00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm interested to see how the series goes because

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00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: it's important for a team like the Red Sox to

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00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: potentially buy because if they get swamp by nankies, you're

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00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: probably not gonna buy it the deadline, even though they

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00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: still should. And the other thing I'm looking forward to

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: this weekend is I want to see some of those

1354
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: early trades. You know, the trade deadline is always considered

1355
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: like the big day for trades, but we usually see

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: date trades in the days leading up to it too.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: I hate that teams wait to the deadline, by the way,

1359
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: like I know that teams like the sellers want to

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00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: make sure they're willing to sell, But I'm like, go

1361
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: get a guy for another month, like I'd rather if

1362
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna trade for him, I'd rather have him for

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: twelve weeks than eight, Like I wish trades happened earlier. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the Phillies Guardian Series, just two

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00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: teams that have you know, been two of the best

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00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: teams of baseball this year. We get showed at even

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: and ver Seth Lugo on Saturday in the Cubs Royal Series,

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01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: which is like a surprisingly very fun starting pitcher matchup,

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: and then sort of along the line with your trades,

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Speaker 2: like which teams have a bad enough weekend to like

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Speaker 2: commit to selling at the deadline? Like do the Tigers

1372
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: get swept? And then it's like, okay, it's a no brainer, right,

1373
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: Like the stuff like that. I want to see which

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: teams who are still kind of in that gray area

1375
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: are no longer in the gray area after this weekend,

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: so we'll see kind of who who plays out that way.

1377
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Speaker 2: Let's go to our season long two start pitcher competition.

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01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: Last week, we were uncertain who would be making two starts,

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: given just the kind of question marks surrounding what teams

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: will line up their rotations like post All Star break.

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01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 2: We also recorded during the break, not on Thursday last week,

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: so it was a little early, and we just weren't

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: sure who's gonna make two starts, so we had backup selections.

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Speaker 1: My main pick was Zach Wheeler.

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01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: He did get pushed back far enough that he's only

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: making one pick pitch one start this week, so I

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: have to go to my backup who is still currently

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01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: schedule to make a second start this week. That's Bryce Miller.

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Speaker 2: So that is now my official pick for this past week.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out with the final start

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. I actually didn't check your guys, are

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01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: you able to still roll with Cole Ragons or are

1393
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: you having to uh to go to Kurschet.

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01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: Looks like we're still on track, so fingers crossed.

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01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: So you still have Reagan's and I have Bryce Miller. Currently.

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Speaker 2: The current standings are nine to six. Again that's including

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: my dominant Homer and Derby victory and.

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 4: Do questionable decisions by guests.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, time, my guests got me two wins. So well.

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Speaker 3: I mean we had guests like with two very close calls,

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 3: we had them vote on the winner, and they both

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: picked They picked you both.

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, in the four weeks where we

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01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: had fill ins, you and I never won one. The

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01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: guests won every every week, which again I don't know

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01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: what that says about us.

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Speaker 1: For this week.

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Speaker 2: I him finally for the first time, taking the best

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01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: pitcher in baseball, Paul Skeens. He's at Houston at home

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01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: against Arizona. I only have a couple more weeks as

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: mentioned to make picks myself. I want to get a

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Speaker 2: week with fall Skeins. He's every time out dominant, so

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Speaker 2: I don't even really care who the matchups are. These

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Speaker 2: aren't matchups that are so so good they're scary to me.

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Speaker 2: So I will happily take Skeens for the first time.

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: First off, we all know that the best picture in

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01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: baseball is Ranger Suarez, and I am taking his teammate,

1418
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler, who has a start against Yankees and start

1419
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 3: against the Mariners.

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01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: This Zac Wheeler, I think has been picked the most

1421
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: times in this because of this.

1422
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: I had him once already.

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01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: Then we had the rule we can each reuse one person,

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01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: and I tried him last week and then it didn't

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: work and I was getting picked by you. So he's definitely,

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: I think, been the guy who's been picked on the

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Speaker 2: show at least the most times.

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01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 2: Have you picked Nola and Rangersrez at other points too.

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01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: I've definitely picked NOA, I think Nola was the one that.

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01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I've taken Rangers Suarez. You

1432
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: took Rangerarez once.

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: It looks like I took Suarez on one of the

1434
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: episodes where you were out because it was Suarez versus

1435
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: Nola was too Phillies head to head.

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01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: I've not taken the best picture in baseball, Uaz yet.

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: That's a miss by you. All right, So Skeens versus

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: Wheeler was still goes next week. We'll see how Reagan's

1439
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: versus Bryce Miller goes to finish up this past week.

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01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, we might have some fun next week.

1441
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we're going to do kind of

1442
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: a usual format of the show or mix it up

1443
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: with it kind of being the last one with the

1444
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: two of us for a few months.

1445
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 4: But also post trade deadline.

1446
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Post trade deadline will definitely react to what's been going

1447
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: on there.

1448
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: So we'll see what next week looks like.

1449
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: But we will be back next week for sure for

1450
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: my final show before and I will be back eventually.

1451
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm never coming back, but just for

1452
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: the remainder of the regular season, I will be stepping away.

1453
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I hope everybody enjoyed this week's episode and

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: tunes in again next week.

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Speaker 1: For Mayor, I'm Ryan Warmlin. Thanks everybody for tuning in

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you again next time.

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,880
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