00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I've thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, your own presences, presents, And I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gift temperature winneger. We're here. This is the three hundredth episode we've done. We've managed to I've managed to do three hundred of anything. This is the only thing I've ever done three hundred of other than like take a shower. So we're here. I unbelievable. I can't believe that we've managed to make it this far. The fact we've found that many people that I can tolerate is a whole other story. And how we're going to fight even more is it's going to be an uphill battle. It's going to be a struggle, but we're going to keep fighting through. We're going to look under every stone and we will find some people I can deal with. Ah, what's going on now? It's been I think that's kind of the big news. Here's something I need to talk about. No more documentaries about rock climbers, I am looking for things on TV, and every other thing is now a documentary about somebody climbing a rock in Yosemite. Enough, we had the one. I don't know why we need more. They're in danger and they have a different type of personality. That's how they all are. And I like to rock climb. I've given up the hobby. But and I'm sure they're all perfectly nice people. But let's find some other extreme sport to get into. What would that be? Water skiing? Waterskiing? Doc water skiers reach out, Let's see is there anything else? Let's say if I have any business, I mean, Patreon continues to exist, Patreon dot com, slash, I said, no gifts, having the time of our lives. We're chatting, we're creating new episodes. I'm talking about the secret lives of Mormon Wives. I'm talking about the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Just generally posting things as you do, just realizing I haven't. I've done three hundred episodes of this and have not received a cent from the brazil Nut Commission. And I've really given brazil not the not a platform here, and I've been very good to brazil nuts and still haven't. I haven't reached out, so that's a problem I should recommend. I should advertise found coffee. I haven't done that in a while. That's an Eagle Rock, California. They do not pay me occasionally. They gave me a free coffee, probably not enough, to be honest, but it's a wonderful coffee shop. And there was an annoying father there today who stood in front of both the doors while I was trying to get out, and I would have opened the door for him, but he had to do it on his own. We have so much to celebrate in this day and age. Hmm, Okay, three hundredth episodes, so we should have us. Of course, you need to have a great guest for a three hundredth episode. And here's somebody who I've wanted to have on the podcast for such a long time. I absolutely adore her. It's Ellie Kemper. Ellie. Welcome to I said, no gift. 00:03:45 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 00:03:47 Speaker 3: Oh what a relief to have you here. 00:03:49 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the relief feeling is mutual and I am so happy to be here. Thank you for having me on. Happy three hundred. 00:03:57 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Can you imagine. No, I can't three hundred. 00:04:01 Speaker 2: I said on my before this started. I can't imagine pulling this off. I am beyond impressed. It's a testament to how much people love you. Oh well done. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: But it's something, it's something that we've done it, and I just keep driving on the freeway and sitting here for an hour and a half and as long as they let me do that. 00:04:24 Speaker 2: You have some magic sauce. So congrats. It's wonderful. I'm happy to be here to celebrate, and I'm happy to be talking to you. You're so easy to talk to you. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: Likewise, it's been a long time since I've seen you. It's probably been almost ten years. 00:04:37 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if it's been ten years. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: I think the last time I saw you was at Kimmy Schmidt, to be honest. 00:04:42 Speaker 2: But that it's twenty twenty six was that twenty sixteen? It may have been ten years. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I'm very aware it was twenty sixteen. Well, it was twenty seventeen, because when I was working at Kimmy I remember a specifically horrible day in twenty sixteen riding the subway to work. Oh sobbing. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: Oh no, But work related. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: No twenty sixteen election. 00:05:04 Speaker 2: Okay, you say no more twenty sixteen. You looked at me like twenty. 00:05:09 Speaker 3: Sixteen, this is where we find out something just absolutely horrible about your voting record. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, what's a big deal? That was, like, you mean the day we had cake, lots of cake to celebrate. I remember I texted the line no to the first ad and I was like, what happened because we were so I just what a memory Elie texting the first agent, the assistant director. But that was that was sad. 00:05:34 Speaker 3: I think that's like the one day of work ever in any environment that I've cried at work. And it was just what, this is what? How are we starting the three hundred episode of this podcast. This is what we're starting. 00:05:44 Speaker 2: We're reminiscing about. No, that's right, because so did you cry? That would have been November twenty November twenty sixteen, right, yeah, and then and then but were you there until twenty seventeen? 00:05:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, that season started and I think like the summer of twenty sixteen and went to like yes, March of twenty seventeen. 00:06:05 Speaker 2: So we saw the full cycle. We saw him be Yeah, we. 00:06:08 Speaker 3: Kind of got dragged through that whole thing. Yeah. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was nice though, to be with one another with like minded people. 00:06:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could be working on a thing that was inherently joyful. That's exactly I mean. I think that day was probably just tough for everybody. But but yeah, it's been a long time since I've seen you. I think probably the last last well, I bet it was like at a table read or something. But I feel like we we shot that thing when I I think we were on Staten Island out like a campground or something. Yes, I don't even know if you were there. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: I don't know if I was there. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: I think you were just on set. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: I just came to hang out. I love it. Even when I'm not called to set, I always come. I just hang out. 00:06:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's been a long time. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: It's been really lying you. 00:06:54 Speaker 3: And you look you still look like you're seventeen years old. 00:06:57 Speaker 2: That could not be a nicer compliment I have. I'm getting my hair colored tomorrow and so I did the head to do root spray today. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: I've never heard of root spray. 00:07:07 Speaker 2: Well, you don't seem to have gray hair. 00:07:08 Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to be flying in series. 00:07:10 Speaker 2: I'm again so many things about you impressed me three hundred episodes. Not a gray hair on your head, and I don't think it. If it hasn't happened by now, it probably won't happen. Root spray is just an aerosol spray of like red. 00:07:27 Speaker 3: Oh I'd like to get into this. 00:07:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh it's great. It's loreal is what I use. Okay, And but the thing is like, you can't really spray the front of your hair because it ends up getting. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: On your skin, on your forehead or whatever, and then. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: It's stripping and it's crazy, right, so this so thank you for saying that. But I do feel like I have a little bit of them. What do they call it? Like a skunk. 00:07:50 Speaker 3: There's no skunk happening hair, no stir. If you're not watching the video, there's no skunk happening. 00:07:55 Speaker 2: There's no skunk, skunk, no skunk Tuesday. Thank you for saying that. I don't I don't agree, but you look you're fourteen. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: I'll also say we talked about this before. It's always nice to have somebody of your exact complexion. 00:08:09 Speaker 2: I could not be happy. First of all, we just took a photo together. We both look incredible. 00:08:15 Speaker 3: We look gorgeous, and. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: It's because no one is like I think, what would it be. I don't want to put words in your mouth. I am pasty sometimes so I feel like and you're not. But when we're next to each other, we both look what well. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: I actually want to back up a little bit and say, I said, we have exact complexions. You look deeply tanned compared to me, So I apologize for even bringing I mean, even trying to compare. You look like you've like at least like passed through the sun during a day. 00:08:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, that sun is going to come back. That's gonna come back to bite me in a big way. 00:08:54 Speaker 3: If it hasn't yet. 00:08:54 Speaker 2: If it hasn't yet, you know, so no that that's thanks for saying. 00:08:59 Speaker 3: Did you go through a period like as a teen that you wanted to be really tan? 00:09:03 Speaker 2: Yes? I okay. So I grew up in Saint Louis and I remember the early spring and seeing the sun and I would go out in tan and like it would be like fifty degrees in March and I would go out and swimsuit. Why did my parents stop me? That's so dangerous? 00:09:22 Speaker 3: But yeah, did you have yeah, of course, because it was like the late nineties early thousands when it was like every people wanted being tan was the thing to do. Like there was no like talk about protecting your skins unless it was your mom, like at swim. 00:09:39 Speaker 2: Lessons, and that even then, my mom. 00:09:42 Speaker 3: Actually at swim lessons would fight us to get sunscreen on us at least like my ears and my neck. Yes, but obviously that wasn't when I was a teen, So that, right, what if my mom was taking me to swim lessons at like seventeen and trying to get sunscreen on. 00:09:57 Speaker 2: I am worried I'm on that path. No, no, no, I mean with the sun protection maybe yes, because that's only been proven to be a good thing, right, right, but in like all areas. But but I don't my mom certainly put sunscreen on me. I don't want to like mischaracter. Well, she protected my skin. But it is wild that like we all, I'm forty six, you don't have to reveal your age. But it was wild that we all were just like, no, but being tan is good and you. 00:10:24 Speaker 3: Should be or you will be expelled. 00:10:26 Speaker 2: From society, right It's wild. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the amount of sunburns that I went through, and there was just never a lesson learned for me. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: Did you ever peel? 00:10:34 Speaker 3: Of course, like truly, like there was nothing worse than peeling, like I would. I would rather be glowing the dark than peel at this point. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that I don't know how many. I think I probably had like four peels all on my shoulders. Oh yeah, of course, shoulders a death sentence. It's horrible, Or don't it's crazy to. 00:10:57 Speaker 3: Think that you went through something that your body was just like that, falling apart. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: Like your your skin boiled like boiled, it came up in little bubbles and then peeled off you. 00:11:07 Speaker 3: Yes, I uh. When I was maybe twenty or something, I went on vacation to Venezuela with a friend and became so deeply sunburned that I was hospitalized, and then came back and was working at a horrible bakery cafe which I won't name right now. I want to know they did accuse me of burglarizing. No, this wasn't sulake. They accused me of burglarizing it later, But I was peeling while working at this place. Why didn't they send me home? 00:11:35 Speaker 2: Why didn't wait hold on the burglary and the peeling are too seperate. 00:11:40 Speaker 3: Separate crimes. One of them I'm guilty of. I was peeling at work. 00:11:46 Speaker 2: Yes, you were feeling at work. You were dripping or like crusting flakes into the I hope. 00:11:55 Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I hope hopefully I wasn't prepping food that day. But I'm sure, like because I went back to work almost immediately after this sunburn, I'm like, I'm thinking back about it now, I'm like, send that person home. 00:12:07 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is I mean, on the one hand, I guess I don't know what's the right thing to do protect the products, but also you were sick. But also I'm sorry that you were hospitalized. That's really imagined, but. 00:12:19 Speaker 3: It was kind of exciting. Venezuela. You're experiencing socialized medicine. Your nurse has a leather jacket on. Those are not related things. It's just I think she wanted to be cool at work or something. But they got an IVY in me and took care of me. 00:12:35 Speaker 2: I want to know what the event was like in Venezuela. 00:12:38 Speaker 3: Were you what were you doing just on vacation? Yeah, well, I went to the beach for I think six to seven hours with no sunscreen whatsoever. I'll do it and fell asleep and then was just as sunburned as a human being can be. And so that that happened. The next day we went to like a little like village in the mountains, and I was so so sun I thought, well, let's put on some sort of lotion. Let's go to a pharmacy and get a lotion. Right, big mistake. Right as soon as the lotion touched my body, I was like, oh, I have to take my clothes like it felt like I was coming out of my skin. There was some sort of reaction or something to the point that I was undressing in public. 00:13:17 Speaker 2: This is this is a night This is something you have a nightmare about. 00:13:21 Speaker 3: It absolutely horrible. 00:13:23 Speaker 2: Sorry. Was it supposed to be like an aloe? Like a box? 00:13:26 Speaker 3: So I don't speak Spanish, my friend does. So maybe maybe the blame actually lays with him. He could he should have been gotten a better maybe just a lower something. 00:13:39 Speaker 2: Yeah. On the other hand, I want to say this, sometimes when you put like a I don't I think it could have like a not a byproduct, but a side effect may have just been that it was irritating your skin wall I. 00:13:56 Speaker 3: Think that must be it, right, because it like, I think I was just so severely sunburn that no matter what you put on there. 00:14:03 Speaker 2: It could have been water. 00:14:05 Speaker 3: Right. 00:14:06 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. That's worse than just shoulders. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: But they took care of me, and then I went and peeled at work. They kept me on the schedule until then I thought that I had burglarized, and then that was the. 00:14:18 Speaker 2: Was it like again, was it money that you took or that you were cute? 00:14:22 Speaker 3: Actually, let's let's just I'm actually they accused me. I'm just gonna own it and say I did do it because I'm I don't work there anymore. I may not have done it, but why don't I just own that at this point? Why didn't I say I did burglar I'm a bad boy? 00:14:37 Speaker 2: You are They're two words. I saw your n even box, I thought, hold on, you're being so cagy. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: What I been? 00:14:50 Speaker 1: Well? 00:14:51 Speaker 3: What was burglarized? Was I actually don't know money? Money was stolen? Apparently, because you know, I ended up in a police interrogation room of this. 00:15:00 Speaker 2: You know you're making a joke. 00:15:01 Speaker 3: This is real. 00:15:02 Speaker 2: Have you told this before? 00:15:03 Speaker 3: I've talked about it on this podcast. But then I've never hinted at the fact that I did it. I didn't do it. 00:15:08 Speaker 2: But now that i've are we worried about legal things because you do not. 00:15:11 Speaker 3: Need to know. No, they're no legal because I didn't do it. Take me to court, prove to me. 00:15:18 Speaker 2: Tell me what you saw, Okay. 00:15:22 Speaker 3: But money because I was like the night shift manager and I had returned to work after a period of not working there, and then I think shortly after they got burglarized. 00:15:32 Speaker 2: I got it. I'm sorry that they were. 00:15:34 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I know who it was. This guy Alex certainly did it. He was he had a bad attitude, first of all, and second of all, I have to blame somebody you got. 00:15:46 Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, if it's not you, who could it have been. It was definitely not randomly. You think it was targeted? 00:15:51 Speaker 3: I think so it was an inside job for because you know the money would get slid under the manager's door at the end of the night. 00:15:58 Speaker 2: Why what this is what I want to know that I don't know any of these things slid. You couldn't knock and hand it. 00:16:07 Speaker 3: To that You wasn't there because I was the manager, right, But you weren't allowed it to the manager. So you know, this is where if there were some problems with the business, why was I not trusted to go into the little office. No, had I been trusted, I would have gone in there and put it in a secure lokation. But you would slight. You would put it the money, the cash in a pastry bag. Oh, and slip it under the door. So if somebody had like a wire hanger fish right, that's exactly again. Now I'm like, well, of course I did it. 00:16:33 Speaker 2: It sounds so specific and thought. 00:16:36 Speaker 3: Out side the back doors. 00:16:42 Speaker 2: And then anyone could have done it. I don't know why it was so hot. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: That's that happened. And then they I think they kind of for a while still thought that I had done it, and then slowly removed me from the schedule. 00:16:54 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was accused. No, I wasn't. I think our improv team was accused of stealing money once. 00:17:02 Speaker 3: Oh is this not a heist movie? 00:17:04 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I know that feels like something. It has to be something, and I don't know. It was a misunderstanding. It's not nearly as dramatic as that. It was just some money was missing from a box and it was a similar thing. I guess there was no safe I don't know the details. I was not the person who on the team who was like brought who was made aware of the accusation. Somebody else was and then told us all, so and so thinks that we stole this money. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: And how did you prove you hadn't? 00:17:38 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. We like improved our way out of it. We were like being bang. But yeah, it's it hurts to be accused of something you didn't do. 00:17:52 Speaker 3: Yes, it's deeply painful. Yeah, but if you had done it, how would you have done it? 00:17:56 Speaker 2: Easy? I told you, is in a box. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: This is a thing where if you're a business, let's invest in something to put the money. 00:18:03 Speaker 2: And you know, we were talking about this earlier. I feel like it was a different time. Yeah, you could just put your money in a box and you just thought and you knew people. I don't know, you just it's not that you trusted people, but people wouldn't. It wouldn't have occurred to occur to be able to steal it. That's made up, of course people in stealing since. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it's one of the original crimes, stealing cash. Oh my gosh, Yes, was there anyone on the team you suspect it might have done it? You don't have to name them. Oh wow, there is. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: And now we are really going back because that was a long time ago. 00:18:39 Speaker 3: Well, I hope, I hope it was worth it to that. 00:18:41 Speaker 2: I hope it was. You know, it's like you have to wonder if you needed money. By the way, I believe that the accusation was dropped, so he must have recovered his money. But I if I had a guess, I know who would have. 00:18:57 Speaker 3: Somebody showed up in a new shirt the next day? 00:19:00 Speaker 2: You connect the toss? 00:19:01 Speaker 3: My friends, how much money are we talking about here? It was like after an improv. 00:19:05 Speaker 2: Show, exactly sixty five dollars I mean, right, yeah, yeah. 00:19:11 Speaker 3: Interesting if it weren't well it's true. Wow, yeah, that's an interesting Have you ever stolen anything? 00:19:20 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it seems to. 00:19:22 Speaker 3: Be like that seems to be a central tenet of this podcast is to me asking people if they've stolen something and then encouraging people to steal. Steal. 00:19:29 Speaker 2: Well, there is. I was just listening to something about the ethics of stealing, and I don't know where I land on that, but I do you know, what. I don't know that I've I'm not. I wish this were more interesting. I don't think have I ever stolen something? I don't think I have good for you. I had to think long and hard about that. I've certainly never shoplifted, Okay, and I want that on record because I haven't. 00:19:51 Speaker 3: That's what separates you. Yeah, I'm a heavy or was a heavy shoplift you? 00:19:57 Speaker 2: Did you have a problem with it? 00:20:00 Speaker 3: No, no problem. My only problem was I wasn't shoplifting enough. No, I would shoplift from not It was an interesting There's like a chain of thrift source through Utah that called Deseret Industries, and I would shoplift from those. There was an hour of each day at high school that you were supposed to go to something called seminary where you would learn about the Mormon Church. And instead of doing that, I would drive to Deseret Industries with friends and just take what I wanted. Well, I would go in the dressing room, put it on, and leave. 00:20:33 Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know this. Yeah, it's so, but there this before security cameras. 00:20:39 Speaker 3: No, this was certainly they had security cameras. I think they just had very lack of security there, and it was. It's kind of a justifiable crime where you're like, well, they got this for free, right, they're charging way too much. This T shirt should not be three dollars. And then your families don't, you know, like we're constantly donating more to the place. So my mind it was a victimless crum. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: It does feel I have to say, I'm not. It's more like again, it's like an ethical question, but I do. But I also like just the principle of it. But if we like break it down, who is being hurt? 00:21:17 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely nobody. 00:21:19 Speaker 2: Would you have gone to a change like a retail store. 00:21:22 Speaker 3: I think that's scarier because they care more. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: Oh so not about whether it's right or wrong. 00:21:27 Speaker 3: Who cares if it's right or wrong? 00:21:30 Speaker 2: We're we're post right, right, we are way past that. 00:21:34 Speaker 1: No. 00:21:35 Speaker 3: I For me, it was it didn't feel wrong at all. Yeah, it for whatever reason, a thrift store one for the thrift store one. It didn't feel wrong. It felt exciting. Yeah, and it felt like, well, I'll probably end up donating this back at some point. 00:21:48 Speaker 2: You got it, and your friends were This was with friends. 00:21:51 Speaker 3: Friends were doing it. Every high schooler was doing it. Well, maybe not every high school or yeah, I shouldn't. 00:21:58 Speaker 2: Some people had worlds, but it does. But it does feel like different from I don't. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: But I like a regular store. I actually, uh yeah, morally, I think that there are plenty of stores where I'm like, yeah, shoplift from them too, they're equally bad or whatever. And I'm not speaking for Ellie here. 00:22:15 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, we'll give me looking at every every every camera. No. I that's right. I apparently have never stolen anything, or so I'm saying, you're an angel. I really don't think I must have stolen something off them. I think about it, and I also am acting like, oh, I never, but I've done. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: Well. Stealing is scary. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: It's so scary because not that I've done it, but it does. It's scary, and with good reason, the fear that you might get caught, Yes, and that's a good thing to scare from doing it. But also yeah, I think even if there were no victim, I still think I would be like, but it's. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: Wrong, right, I guess right. Yeah. The one like real experience with shoplifting I had was my brother. My mom had taken us all shopping to something called chopcoat and my brother changed the price on like a model plane or something, and my mom bought it unwittingly. And then the what they dragged my poor mom through in the security room is I mean, it was beyond it, like brutalized this poor mother. She's got four children and no, it's just like just what So it was really traumatic. 00:23:34 Speaker 2: They was this all the same visit or they called. 00:23:36 Speaker 3: It was all the same visit. They caught us on the way out. 00:23:39 Speaker 2: That's absurd. 00:23:40 Speaker 3: At shop CO. 00:23:41 Speaker 2: Did your brother ever admit to He. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: Must have admitted, but he was probably nine or. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: What a waste of resources? No, I can't imagine. And it's you know a little like slap on the wrist and your mother. 00:23:55 Speaker 3: I know, the stakes couldn't have been higher for SHOPCT right, and they probably lost three dollars. Yeah, it was one of these things. I think this is like a new thing among retailers. Most of the time, if it's like a low key thing, they're like, just leave them alone. It's a waste of resources. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: Well, and I also think right with all the like self checkout, that they have calculated a certain number of people are just going to see they to take things. 00:24:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's really nothing we can do. Yeah, it's worth it to not pay human beings to do the job. 00:24:23 Speaker 2: That's what. That's the math they've worked out, and I have to I don't know which one. Oh wait, do I know which one? You choose? You choose not checking self check. 00:24:34 Speaker 3: Oh I do whatever. Oh okay, I'm kind of in some places you kind of have no option at this point. Target it's like there's this one harried employee who has fifty person people they are doing, and then there's the self checkout. 00:24:48 Speaker 2: I know the other day it was taking so long in line for the human I was like, don't be overt just but like I did want to move over to the self checkout. I had to go to the person because of the security. Oh they're not tags, they're security whatever things on the clothes. So I went to the but I was trying to do it so like discreetly, so. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: It's not too right, right, like get them in trouble for going too slow or something. 00:25:20 Speaker 2: And it was it's just it's fun at first because you get disapped, sure, and then it's just it's I don't know what it is. I don't run a business. Again, I guess the math shakes out. But it's just a. 00:25:33 Speaker 3: Bummer, all right, It's just kind of they's just a continual bummer among industries at this point. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: Right. So then if you feel so sometimes something doesn't scan. It does run through my head like just take it. But you know that. But then you're on you see your. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: You see your face right, yes, unflattering portray. Look at you, you hideous thief. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: It's like that's why it's there, Yeah, just to remind you just. 00:25:59 Speaker 3: To look at yourself. 00:26:00 Speaker 2: What are you doing? How has it come to this? Stealing from target? Anyway? And then and then I never do. 00:26:07 Speaker 3: I just never. I actually will say those. The thing where it shows your face almost looks like a cool music video or something apps. So then you're hearing cool music in your head and you're thinking, I'm gonna I'm gonna do something cool. I'm gonna steal. Yes, I look cool on camera. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: You're so right, it actually is counterproductive. 00:26:24 Speaker 3: I need to make those more unflattering or something, uh huh, or have like a photo of an attractive person next to us. You're comparing yourself. You're like, what am I? How do I become that? 00:26:35 Speaker 2: It's yeah, exactly, m M yeah, I don't know. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: I don't know either. Well I do, there is something I do know about speaking of just crimes that shouldn't be forgiven, et cetera. Ellie, I was excited to have you here today. I've been doing the podcast for a long time. I've done a lot of episodes. I think we've probably had two duds. I know we've had two duds. I was we wouldn't have a third. The podcast is called I said no gifts, so I was a little surprised, after the billion emails that were exchanged, et cetera, that you arrived with a gift. I did, and. 00:27:20 Speaker 2: I know you said no gifts. I didn't know if you were just being polite. It's three hundred episodes. 00:27:26 Speaker 3: You've done, right, so there's. 00:27:27 Speaker 2: Bee hundred you should be celebrated. 00:27:30 Speaker 3: So this is almost unrelated. You're just bringing it as a celebration. 00:27:34 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Congratulations too. A gift giving is very popular where I come from, and I thought you should be given a gift. But I seem to have offended you, and I'm really sorry. 00:27:47 Speaker 3: So you've gotten caught up in some gift giving fad. 00:27:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's more than a fad. I think it's like across cultures, people give gifts. 00:27:55 Speaker 3: It's here to stay. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: I think it's here to stay. 00:27:57 Speaker 3: Well, should we open it here on the podcast? 00:27:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're okay, okay, thank you for being a good sport about it. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: Of course I try. I'm working on that in therapy. I've now blocked myself on the camera for a minute, and I'm sure everyone's freaking out and we can't leave it for just some minutes just so people are sweating. Is it going to leave it here the whole episode? The gift bag is very big. Yeah, it probably my size and. 00:28:21 Speaker 2: It might be your size. And you'll see when you get the gift. Oh now you're blocking me. Now you'll see when you get the gift. 00:28:30 Speaker 3: This is the thrill of video, just blocking. 00:28:33 Speaker 2: Cat's I'm a huge prop comic and so I know. But it the gift is half the size. 00:28:41 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm the bad And it's in this gorgeous kind of mint green with polka doonts. 00:28:46 Speaker 2: I think it's from Target. 00:28:47 Speaker 3: It's from Tart. You filled this with items other items that were also so that was a famous shoplifting thing. What somebody in my high school, stole a suitcase and then put other objects in the amount of things, and then one of the I'm sorry to go on attention. He stole a used Burger King polo. Then use that to go work at Burger King. Wait, this person was amazing. 00:29:11 Speaker 2: Wait was this from the thrift story? Yeah? Hell did he king already? No? 00:29:16 Speaker 3: Wait what this person stole all kinds of things inside a stolen suitcase, walked out of the thrift store with the suitcase. One of those things was a Burger King polo. Then he put that on and went to Burger King and worked, went behind the counter to work at Burger ca untrained train just like for a period. This is this is a remarkable team. 00:29:36 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 00:29:37 Speaker 3: Teens can surprise you the end them. Give him a chance, Give him a chance, Give teens a chance. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: Are you in touch with him? 00:29:44 Speaker 3: I'm not in touch with him. He was like a friend of a friend. 00:29:46 Speaker 2: I wonder what I don't probably works at Burger King. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: That was a stream job. He would do whatever it took to work. 00:29:55 Speaker 2: He was he couldn't get a job the regular way, so he dressed as an employee and showed up. That's brilliant. 00:30:01 Speaker 3: Maybe I should try that free time. Okay, let's get into this. We've got tissue. Okay, do you want to do that on your mind, I'll do it. Oh gorgeous, Okay, I'm reaching in. 00:30:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this a garbage garbage can? 00:30:29 Speaker 3: What does this say? Oh? Street name, New York street name. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So it's it's a two fer. There's two in one here. Because you're a writer, sometimes. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: You have what I would say thriving industry. 00:30:46 Speaker 2: Yeah. Never, I don't doubt that a lot of your first drafts are perfect. But sometimes writers have first drafts that they have to toss in the So that's a trash can for any discarded first draft. 00:31:00 Speaker 3: It's just immediately attacking my ability for your first, your second, your third, your fourth draft you're writing is garbage. Here's where you should This is where your career. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: This is where it is in the tank, and this. 00:31:14 Speaker 3: Is what your career is missing. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: This is it a garbage No, no, no, all joking aside, it's for the first drafts, right, So then you do the first draft and you and you say, okay, I'm going to make these edits, and then you enter the edits in the second draft, and then you discard the first draft. Right, it's all great writers discard their first dress. So that's what that's for. But the main reason is because of the. 00:31:37 Speaker 3: New York connection, of course. 00:31:38 Speaker 2: So for those of you listening not watching, there are New York places for this trash camp. Ninth Street in Brooklyn, Borough Hall, King's Highway, a place I've never used. 00:31:55 Speaker 3: Highway. Interesting, that's also the name of a diner in Palm Springs that could be doing a better job. Yeah, sorry, King's Highway. You could. You have a beautiful environment. Let's get the food up to speak. Yea King's Highway. I've never heard of King's Highway. 00:32:10 Speaker 2: You're in my life in New York, but I guess it's there. Coney Island, J Street, Pearl Hall for Brooklyn twice. 00:32:17 Speaker 3: Now. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: The reason I thought they ran names? No, Brooklyn, they literally ran out of Brooklyn. Let's do Brooklyn again. White Street, Yeah yeah, Coney Island, No, it is only other ones. It's they certainly ran out of names. The reason I thought, okay, New York trash can Bridger is because we know each other from me. 00:32:40 Speaker 3: Yes, that's where we met. 00:32:42 Speaker 2: And I don't know how much time you spent total in New York. 00:32:46 Speaker 3: I mean when I was working on Kimmy, it was like a year total, And then regrettably made the decision not to go back, which was whatever. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: I want to get into that. Yeah, we should get it really well, but and I don't want to bring back some pains painful members. All I hear all. Now that I know your time in New York spent weeping on the subway, I do apologize for bringing those memories. But the other thing is when we first corresponded about this show, yes we you had you were in New York. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought that you were in New York because I had reached out like would you want to do an episode in New York? 00:33:18 Speaker 2: And like a monster, I did not reply right. 00:33:22 Speaker 3: Like a monster, I started, I mean, the word has been spread and there's no taking up back. Oh I've really I've made a mess of your name and. 00:33:29 Speaker 2: You as well. You should. I think it was I don't know what it was. It was like a absolutely just did not respond for like months. 00:33:38 Speaker 3: No, not months. Maybe you're better, Yeah. 00:33:40 Speaker 2: Thanks for saying up. But I was thinking, oh, you live in New York. Because it was I thought, well, he's in New York. What where? Okay, where does he live? And so then so I thought, okay, our first correspondent was about New York. Then we realized, oh, we're both in Los Angeles, and then that's what ultimately brought us together. So there's a lot of symbolism, I think, right, of course, with the New York street names. 00:34:05 Speaker 3: Right, at some point, it feels like you thought, I may even be a drifter. Where does it? No one can pinpoint where this person actually is on a map. He's running person. 00:34:15 Speaker 2: He seems to be in Florida at the King's Highway diner. 00:34:19 Speaker 3: No, that's Palm Spring should King's Highway. You've got a nice environment. Let's bring up the food to speed. 00:34:26 Speaker 2: He says it again. 00:34:29 Speaker 3: Sorry, I hold them to I just it's a disappointment every time I get it, and I wish the food was better. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: And it's just a diner. 00:34:37 Speaker 3: It's a diner attached to the Ace Hotel. It's an old Denny's. It's a beautiful environment. I wish they could just bring up the food to speed. I'm sorry, King's Highway, You've got a beautiful environment. 00:34:49 Speaker 2: Come on, you're saying, bring it off. So yeah, but I love New I don't know what your experience. 00:34:59 Speaker 3: I I love New York in some way, I can't exist in New York. I have a hard time existing in New York. 00:35:05 Speaker 2: All I want to hear why. I mean, I get it. 00:35:07 Speaker 3: I'm too fragile. I'm a fragile baby. No. I grew up in Utah, which is more car culture, then moved to LA which was an easy enough shift, and then when I came and worked on Kimmy, you know, like the weather is a little bit more extreme every moment you were working to be alive. There are plenty of wonderful things. I mean, bakery wise, they've got us beat here in LA. Every time I'm there, I'm eating so many baked goods. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: In New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, incredible, incredible. 00:35:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. But I was there in April, and you know, when you go in the fall or spring in New York, it's very seductive. You think I should live here for the rest of my life. But this April, the first three days was probably ninety degrees and then the next three days was like thirty eight to forty degree, which was kind of nice. Where it's like, oh, so these two weathers here you don't want to leave your apartment. 00:36:03 Speaker 2: Right, right? You do you think there is a fundamental like heartiness in uh. I I do think though that kind of those that adversity is good for the spirit. But I could be wronged. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: I think it probably is, sure. 00:36:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not for it's it's very hard. 00:36:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hard. You. I just and leaving Utah. One of the big things I didn't want to experience every dain, of course, was the winter. And so having winter in any form for me is just too much. 00:36:44 Speaker 2: I've become you, I was on my way. I've been on my way to becoming you. But I cannot It's true. I cannot tolerate winter anymore. I don't know what happened. 00:36:52 Speaker 3: Well, it's miserable. 00:36:53 Speaker 2: It's just awful. And in New York you're out in it. 00:36:56 Speaker 3: Yes, so that's very Your feet are wet, uh huh. The bottom of your pants is frequently wet. Yes, And they're like the brief windows where it looks nice and then the rest of its grace lush. 00:37:07 Speaker 2: I know, I know. And then the only thing in this winter was like apocalyptic, just frozen the whole. I guess that's what I've seen or heard. But I think the snow just stayed there for three straight months. But which I guess that happens in Chicago or something all the time. But I do feel the end of each day, you come home and you've earned it, and you've. 00:37:26 Speaker 3: Just oh interesting, yeah, but then what have you earned the right to be exhausted and fall asleep on the couch? 00:37:32 Speaker 2: I know, No, You're so right. It's a love hate place. If by the way, by the way, if you would come back and be like I loved my time there, I would be singing it. I'd be like, I know, there's right. 00:37:45 Speaker 3: Of course you can convince somebody that they love New York and like, I mean, there are so many incredible things, yes, but yeah, just for me. I think I may have mentioned this on this podcast at some point, but I've kind of like come to the realization that if somewhere is fun to visit, it's probably not as much fun to live there. Oh that's so insightful, because LA, I don't think is like a necessarily fun place to visit. No one's like, let's go to LA, Like you don't take the family to When I see a family that's visiting La, I'm like, what are you doing here? 00:38:13 Speaker 2: Polite with deepest respect, disagree. 00:38:16 Speaker 3: Los Angeles proper you think is like a fun okay, well, and let me also preface this with like, there's so much good food here. I love La person. 00:38:25 Speaker 2: I know you do. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: But when I when somebody comes from and they're not familiar with it, they're like, I don't know where to stay. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: I got it. 00:38:31 Speaker 3: I don't know what I should do. And I think it's like a harder city to access, whereas with New York it's like every moment you're there, something looks neat, there's great food everywhere, and it's just easier, right. 00:38:43 Speaker 2: Right right. I think coming here as a to Los Angeles I'm trying to help the tourist actually is not a bad idea because there are so many like there's so many sites that you have read I have not been to, but that are you know, like bus ride tour buses, Oh yeah, of course, and going to Universal and all that stuff. So there, and there's I went on a trip here when I was in college with my roommate. We just came here. It's not so weird. My roommate and I did come to Los Angeles to just check it out. Yeah, and more than that, our first celebrity siding happened. Gary Coleman. 00:39:16 Speaker 3: Oh my god, r I p are I the help in Utah? 00:39:21 Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? 00:39:22 Speaker 3: He lived with a woman and he collected trains. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: And was she Mormon? 00:39:26 Speaker 3: She? I just remember she had really small teeth, that she had red hair. She did have her red hair. Yeah, either of us could play her in. 00:39:37 Speaker 2: That was he? I don't want to. But was did she kill him? 00:39:40 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't think she killed Oh I thought she did. She ellis look into whether or not she killed him. That would be a good thing to know. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: I thought she pushed him down the stem. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: Probably she seemed like that. It did seem like a tough relition. 00:39:55 Speaker 2: Very complicated. Yeah, and ultimately that's I mean it. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: And we wish her the best. 00:40:01 Speaker 4: Yes, it was ruled as an accidental death, but according to a Hollywood reporter thing from July of twenty twenty five, she didn't do so well on the polygraph. 00:40:13 Speaker 3: So twenty twenty five they're looking into it. 00:40:16 Speaker 1: This. 00:40:16 Speaker 2: Wow, people still care? Yeah, two people right here. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: We're cracking the case. Wow. 00:40:23 Speaker 2: What so she's roaming free when she should be behind bars? 00:40:28 Speaker 3: It seems, well, why are they bringing up the polygraph test now because it was a long time ago that he died, right, fortunately, Yes, at least a decade ago or something. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's disturbing. I don't know what I mean. When these things are revealed years decades later, you think what were you doing the whole time? 00:40:44 Speaker 1: Right? 00:40:44 Speaker 2: But in any event, I came here on vacation and enjoyed it. So but I do know you have a very good point, which is visiting a place and it's fun is a message not to live there. So I do see what you're saying about New York. I do want to retire there though, for sure. Oh interesting, Oh do you think it'd be easy to retire, Yeah, to. 00:41:08 Speaker 3: Be like an elderly person. It seems like you kind of it's just like a city that it's like living in a retirement home, but it happens to be a city as well. Exactly, there are services everywhere. You can walk, you can go down to the street level and there's the grocery store. 00:41:21 Speaker 2: Yes, it seems that's exactly where I retirement village right there. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: And you would want to live in the city as a retireing, Yeah, for sure, Yes, I think that I would be a senior that died in the cold or in the heat. So I don't know that that's for me. I think that I'm I think I'm stuck in sunny southern California, although I like the more the time passes, I'm like, well, I'm going to certainly we'll all die of the heat here. 00:41:49 Speaker 2: It is atrocious and in Locking Yata where I am which to listeners who don't or watch viewers, it's bypassa. 00:41:57 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been to lock in Loch and yacht's anything to say. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: It is so it is so tricky to say. It sounds like you're saying lock and YadA. 00:42:07 Speaker 3: Lock Andata. It's a cop duo, Lock and Yata. CBS. 00:42:13 Speaker 2: It's fifteen degrees hotter there all the time. Anyway, It's a great place to live. 00:42:17 Speaker 3: It is so many good restaurants. Yes, ah, what we should say some nice things about Los Angeles. Wonderful coffee. 00:42:30 Speaker 2: It's great coffee. I think I think the people. 00:42:33 Speaker 3: Are people are a surface level polite. Yeah. I've managed to kind of like remove most of the total psychos from my life. Oh so there are some psychos, but there are psychos everywhere. 00:42:44 Speaker 2: There's cycles everywhere. But how do you You can't remove the like stranger psycho. 00:42:48 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they'll keep coming in and out. 00:42:50 Speaker 2: But you know, I want to know the man blocking the door. But he was a dad. 00:42:55 Speaker 3: It was dad. He had like a like a smaller child that could be staying and he was like holding them. And I was like, I was ready to open the door. But then he stood in front of and like let himself in and say, sir, I was ready to be polite here, and now you've been a horrible example to your son that's going to be a bad ad. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: It was because he is it, because he had a kid and he could do it all. 00:43:19 Speaker 3: I think it was a do it all situation where I'm just like, you're fine, You're about to get a latte, just right. What are we trying to prove for you? 00:43:27 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 00:43:28 Speaker 3: I just I my probably my biggest problem with anyone is when they are just like are not aware of the space they're taking up or are and are doing nothing about it. 00:43:40 Speaker 2: So that's something I've struggled with here. I do feel like in New York there is a shared sense of space and people just understand it. I'm not saying that's like, oh wow, what a skill, or like we're so superior. But I do think that there's a flow just because you're navigating it twenty four to seven with the streets with other people. And I've noticed so many times it's I don't think it's me, although it could be. I don't want to like dismiss that idea, but in a Ralph Serretta whatever like store or parking lot situation, there's a problem with flow right, specifically pedestrian track. 00:44:19 Speaker 3: Like absolutely right, yeah, and. 00:44:21 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm walking this, and then I find myself doing that like so often. 00:44:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think probably because people are frequently not in shared space. 00:44:31 Speaker 2: I think that's it, which is part of. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: Why I love being here is not from the shared space. But I'm also trained in the the art of like being aware of other human bodies, right and just like being polite and yeah, getting out of the way. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: I know, how do how are you doing? Like when you do encounter the psychos, what do you do? 00:44:50 Speaker 3: I'm just I see if it goes too far, I start making like sounds yeah, or like I was at found Coffee again. I love the place, but this was another experience where a woman had plugged her or her car computer charger into the wall, but she was at the table over so this one was at my table, and so it was it was just shoving into my back, which I would be okay with if she said, I'm sorry, I have a low battery. Totally not a problem. 00:45:21 Speaker 2: Not a problem. I'm happy I can help somehow switch with you. 00:45:25 Speaker 3: If that helps. No acknowledgements. And I saw what she was working on her computer. It was a bad photoshop job. She should probably consider other careers. 00:45:36 Speaker 2: Let the battery die. 00:45:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, let the battery dice card. 00:45:40 Speaker 2: That's so, did you just. 00:45:44 Speaker 3: Like moving in big ways and no acknowledgment whatsoever. 00:45:49 Speaker 2: That you and I not only have similar complexions but similar world views, because that is just so infuriating, And it's like, I don't I mean, I've you heard about the let them theory? 00:46:02 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:46:02 Speaker 2: Of course, of course, isn't that well known. 00:46:05 Speaker 3: It's extremely well known, the way that thing took over TikTok and Instagram. She was ever everywhere telling everybody to let them. 00:46:13 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's not I don't know. I have a lot of thoughts about that. That's like nothing new, but I'm happy she found a cat's raised. But what it's crazy. 00:46:22 Speaker 3: It is a sort of thing where it's like, oh, so you're just saying something that and actually kind of promoting something that's more complicated than letting people off the like. 00:46:34 Speaker 2: It's very common. I've tried doing it with my kids when they're like being crazy right or annoying, and I'll be like, well, like like I was gonna say something horrible, but they're like in danger, They're like running with scissors. I'm like, what they're bothering me? It has its limits, right, and letting someone plug their thing in such a way that is jetting into your back is an example. Let them doesn't work. No, it's like, really. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: You should be tell them interesting. That's that's me as mel Robins t e l them. It's the let start it, Yes, tell them. 00:47:09 Speaker 2: Turn it? 00:47:10 Speaker 3: We turn let around? 00:47:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, turn let around? 00:47:13 Speaker 3: Around? 00:47:13 Speaker 2: Time to turn let around and tell them. 00:47:16 Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna do it. I'm got a big pair of black glasses. Yes, tell them. I love this. 00:47:22 Speaker 2: I really like it. 00:47:23 Speaker 3: Wow, I think it is something and we need more. 00:47:26 Speaker 2: Tell she was saying, and I don't know if this is big on TikTok. But people are getting tattoos of let them, and so you I'll be the first, I'll get tell them perfect. 00:47:35 Speaker 3: I'll be like, tell them, this is my career safety net. Just tell them people are getting let them tattoos. It's a little early. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: It's just too early. 00:47:45 Speaker 3: That's like getting Atkins diet tattoo. It's like, no, not a few years pass and see if you're you like the idea still crazy? 00:47:54 Speaker 2: They saw they just laughed onto it. So fat. Everyone's desperate for something. 00:47:59 Speaker 3: You have to something to hang on. 00:48:00 Speaker 2: I know this specific example, it's letting them. 00:48:05 Speaker 3: But the let them kind of went hand in hand. I think there was before that. There was a lot of sorry if I'm too much for you. 00:48:13 Speaker 2: Just have you ever been called a lot or whatever? Yes, I'm sorry too. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, sometimes you are too much and that's a problem for other people. 00:48:22 Speaker 2: There are limits behavior. I know the example, and you need to cut me off if I'm talking too much. 00:48:29 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 00:48:30 Speaker 2: We likewise, yeah, yeah, I will. The example I read, I read part of them, I listened to it. 00:48:37 Speaker 3: This is I mean, this is every reader's experience for this book. 00:48:40 Speaker 2: I think I think so. Yes, the example she gives in the introduction, is that someone is coughing behind her on it. We're talking about mel Robbins for you don't know, I knew, you knew. 00:48:49 Speaker 3: Oh okay, and I know what I mean. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: But so when I say she that's who, and so someone's coughing behind her on a plane, and she's like, I'm going to get sick. This is so annoying. Like she tried glaring at him through the gap in the seats, and then finally she was like, she's like, what do I always tell people let them? So it came about something like that. So she pulled up her like turtleneck and covered her face and she was like, cough away. No, No, She's like, if I get sick, I get sick. I'm like, that is I don't agree. 00:49:23 Speaker 3: That's actually the worst example of this. 00:49:26 Speaker 2: This is clearly clearly post COVID, but it was like a crazy I respect this woman. I don't agree with that example. 00:49:35 Speaker 3: That's a wild example. Yeah, you tell them or tell the flight attendant. 00:49:41 Speaker 2: Yes, And by the way, by the way, I don't want to again, I don't want to like mischaracterize it. She may have told the person or asked the person to stop and he may have either not understood or like agreed to disagree or whatever it was, but kept coughing. Yeah it's absurd. Wow, but I think that I don't know. I think for your own sanity, you have to say, I can't control this anymore. Right, person's coughing. Right, but it feels defeatist. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the flight attendant ask to be moved. There are other things. Let them. Yeah, we've got to like there's a balance, mel I'm coming for you. I'm going to be telling them from now. Wow. I found the antidote to I love it. It's incredible. 00:50:29 Speaker 2: It was like right in front of us the whole time. We just needed a mirror. 00:50:32 Speaker 3: Let me ask you, as a parent, this is another space occupying thing that drives me crazy. Is when someone has a child between like three to seven, and there's a line behind them for whatever service, and they decide, right now is the time for like the child to learn to use the credit card or like to pay, or to like use the soda fountain or whatever. I understand you want your child to but like when there are people behind you, let's maybe we find a different time to do this. 00:51:04 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. What have I strongly disagreed and we got here's what I The first thing that came to mind when you said that is, I'm thinking of the pits, and I'm thinking of I don't know, with residents or below a residence. It's a teaching hospital, so they have to learn, literally on the job. That's how they learn, right, the stakes could and they're doing that giving your child the opportunity or to like order for themselves or like to thank the cat the worst. And I've found myself guilty on this, but guilty of this. But when you are teaching your kid manners in real time and you're like, thank the cashier and they're like and then you're like no, no, no, no, thank the cash and the cashier is like, I do not care. 00:51:50 Speaker 3: I have a job. 00:51:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:51:51 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 00:51:52 Speaker 2: It's awful. It's so self centered. And it makes as someone who's also received this like say thank you for having me over or whatever. You're like, now I have to wait around and wait for your Can you start. 00:52:04 Speaker 3: To feel like the bad guy? No, I'm sorry now, I'm sorry that they've put us in a situation. 00:52:10 Speaker 2: I yeah, do not do that. And also there's a there's a like look that a parent will get where it's like I'm doing it right, you know. 00:52:21 Speaker 3: And I feel bad because I as a non parent anytime I say something about parenting. But this is one where I'm just like, let's let's again find the balance. 00:52:30 Speaker 2: I agree with everything. Oh my gosh, that was also something I was going to bring you. 00:52:34 Speaker 3: By the way, what, oh child, you're going to learn it's harder than you think. 00:52:40 Speaker 2: I pull out. 00:52:43 Speaker 3: It was. 00:52:43 Speaker 2: It was a what are they called diffusers read diffusers of balance? I'll give that to you one of the six hundred episode. What you'll forget about it then? Just about finding balance? 00:52:53 Speaker 3: Oh right? I mean that is uh in my own life, I could be probably better at that. 00:52:58 Speaker 2: We all could. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: I feel like you've probably got a nice balance. I feel like you're a You're a joyful, happy person that always feels like. 00:53:06 Speaker 2: We we know that's not true, but no, we know who's who is that? 00:53:10 Speaker 3: But I feel like you are at least headed in the other direction. 00:53:14 Speaker 2: You know what we are about to be like, we are lucky. I don't know what. It's just felt like a safe thing to say we're blessed. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: Gratitude attitude is the attitude. Dude, Ellie, thank you so much for being here. We're out of time, are we? 00:53:41 Speaker 2: No? I did, and I was like, that's okay, and then I was gonna like on the drive home, such a crazy I was ready for it. It did seem like that's how he ends it. I haven't seen him in another shows that way, but. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: Special occasion. 00:53:56 Speaker 2: I'm just three hundred. He's out lose my mind. Tell them, tell them it's over. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: I have this garbage can no. No. What I was going to say is I'm sorry that I didn't work on more. Kimi should because I adore you. When I adored the show so much so. 00:54:14 Speaker 2: I was it's mutual. And I also I really liked that whole experience. I think back on it now and I'm. 00:54:20 Speaker 3: Like, that was so rare wonderful. I mean, for me, it was like a dream, like a miracle. It was like going to the Olympics. 00:54:27 Speaker 2: It was, but it wasn't. I mean, no, what is it when a storm is when a tornado is about to happen, you hear thunder first. What I mean is. 00:54:37 Speaker 3: I'm not looking into any of that science. I'm sure it's true. 00:54:41 Speaker 2: It couldn't have been a shock. It wasn't. You didn't character you didn't call it. I keep saying characterized. You didn't describe it as a shock. But when you said it was like the Olympics, it was like, what, No, it was the next step for it or whatever. Yeah, you're just being a nice person, and I'm no. 00:54:55 Speaker 3: But it was just one of those things where I like, when I worked at Jimmy Kimmel, this is this incredible thing. It was so incredible. I was like, I never thought I would make it this far. I'll be at the show for the rest of my life. And then this job, which was like I hate almost all of television, and so to be like, oh, literally the show I want to work on, I get to go work on it completely and write jokes, which is more and more rare. 00:55:18 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:55:19 Speaker 3: And then it was just like such a lovely group of people. Yes. So it was just a lovely thing. And ultimately a thing that kept me from coming back was the idea of like going back to New York in November, I think, And it was this thing where it's like. 00:55:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems this might be a saying that people other than Titus. Lovely, Lovely, Titus says but he always says, I overstand. 00:55:41 Speaker 3: Is that overstand? Yes, you understand even more. 00:55:45 Speaker 2: Even and I've only ever heard it from him, so I wanted to credit him. 00:55:48 Speaker 3: But apparently I'm trying to think, is overstand something that came from the show that Titus the character said? 00:55:52 Speaker 2: Oh I thought he just said it. He says in real life? Did you see it in the show? 00:55:56 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:55:58 Speaker 2: Blurs life is art as life is hard, yes, yes, and so we don't know where the two separate. But I do overstand coming back in November to New York. It's no joke. 00:56:12 Speaker 3: So dark. It's so dark, it's really I wish. 00:56:16 Speaker 2: You had come back because we were all there. I guess how long did it go? 00:56:21 Speaker 3: But whatever it was, Yeah, there was another thing where that was a miracle show where you like worked for more than ten minutes. You know, they went for several months writing the show rather than like write thirteen episode in a week. Thirteen episodes in a week, right, I think it was like a normal schedule. 00:56:36 Speaker 2: I think it was a normal schedule, and thirteen seemed like short then oh right, anyway. 00:56:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, it did seem short then, and now it's like, well, seven episodes you're lucky if you get eight Yeah, right, right, an entire sitcom in eight episodes. 00:56:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but why why? But I want to also clarify what I meant. I just meant about that being the Olympics or whatever. I meant like, of course you would have that job. That's a good fit. And also you were just being grateful, so I'm doing nice. 00:57:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very nice. But it did the stakes seemed incredibly high because rarely do you work with people where you've seen their names, you know, it's just like, yeah, it's a very rare thing. So initially that was such an intimidating place because everyone that was like at the absolute top of their game. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: I never went to the writer's room for mostly that reason. I was like, this is an intimidating place to be. And also they made all those jokes about actors coming into the writer's room on thirty Rock. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. 00:57:34 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be fodder. So I'm not falling into your trap. You made jokes about this in your show. 00:57:43 Speaker 3: No, it was just it is. 00:57:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, so those it does feel like the Olympics. 00:57:47 Speaker 3: All that to say, Oh I wish that show was still going whatever what are you going to do? 00:57:52 Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know what you're going to do. And I keep thinking, oh maybe maybe every show now seems to come back, so maybe another twenty years we'll have a reunion. 00:58:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, of reunion. That's like ten season Harry b. Yeah, the ten season reunion. Yeah, I don't know. 00:58:08 Speaker 2: It goes and goes. 00:58:10 Speaker 1: Well. 00:58:10 Speaker 3: I have my garbage can. I'll be able to throw whatever I want in here. It's very tasteful. I think we should play a game. Okay, I'm going to play a game called Gift or a Curse, but I need a number between one and ten from you four. Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want on the microphone. I'll be right back. Okay. 00:58:34 Speaker 2: I'm going to promote a show that isn't out yet, so you have to remember it. It's called Elephant and Piggy and it's an animated show and I am the voice of Piggy. By the way, not to like out my husband, but literally two days ago he's like, which voice are you? And I was like, I posted about this on Instagram. It says Ellie Kemper is piggy, so I repeated that information to him and Titus, our old friend is voicing elephant. So it's a based on a book series by the Great Moe Williams. And that show that I've spent five minutes talking about just now will come out at some point where on Paramount plus Paramount plus, Okay, I think, I mean, no, I know, I know, but I mean, I mean, I just I suddenly thought, is it paramount plus or just paramount? 00:59:23 Speaker 3: Right? I just. 00:59:26 Speaker 2: Uh? 00:59:27 Speaker 3: Do you ever watch Couple's Therapy? 00:59:29 Speaker 2: No? 00:59:30 Speaker 3: That's is that a recommend incredible show? You have to watch me? 00:59:34 Speaker 2: Why don't I watch it? 00:59:35 Speaker 3: If you like it, you won't stop. I mean you'll start and you'll just blow through the entire thing. 00:59:40 Speaker 2: I'm going to embarrass myself. When did it come? 00:59:42 Speaker 3: It's like in the last five to six years. It's this therapist orna incredible person, and her advisor Virginia. 00:59:52 Speaker 2: Who I love, and it's just is this reality? 00:59:55 Speaker 3: This is a reality show. It's more like documentary reality. And she just meets with Cup and you see their couple's therapy and it's so fascinating. Oh and also very calming. 01:00:06 Speaker 2: For the most part because of the like mood, or because it's reassuring. 01:00:12 Speaker 3: The mood Orna is such a lovely presence, and it's also reassuring. Sometimes you're watching these couples and you're like, well, at least that's not my relationship. You see some of the relationships people are Any're like, that's an unsolvable problem. It's yes, and you're trapped with the worst person on the life. So it's nice to watch as a couple and you think you'll be so grateful for your partner because just wait, they don't. 01:00:43 Speaker 2: Do that thing. Yeah, I can't wait. That's going to be a great show. 01:00:46 Speaker 3: That's great. Of course I have nothing to watch on TV. And then the new season that came out and I watched all of it in less than twenty four hours, and now I'm back to be mad at TV. It's a tough cycle. It is that. 01:00:58 Speaker 2: That's really hard. 01:00:59 Speaker 3: The pit. Yeah, the pit, I'm too. I need to get over it. 01:01:03 Speaker 2: No, you don't. 01:01:04 Speaker 3: But I like to eat something while I'm watching TV, and. 01:01:07 Speaker 2: I was that's for the nine hundredth episode. I'm going to bring you snacks because that was my other thing I was. I love eating snacks. What kind of snacks, animal crackers, teddyms like. 01:01:18 Speaker 3: Little things that you haven't had a teddy Gram in a while? 01:01:21 Speaker 2: Of course, why would you. You're a grown man. 01:01:24 Speaker 3: You'd be surprised. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: The things I do is Yeah, yeah, they're They're delightful. It's just because they're bright size. Right. 01:01:30 Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite Teddygram flavor? 01:01:32 Speaker 2: Honey? 01:01:33 Speaker 3: Oh, Honey's a good one. 01:01:34 Speaker 2: Honey's just it feels classic, right, it's kind of. 01:01:36 Speaker 3: The original, I think so. Yeah, and then they kind of got crazy. I like a chocolate chip one. I don't know if those are still on the. 01:01:43 Speaker 2: Market, are in the market. They taste funny though they don't know what's in them. 01:01:47 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's like that certainly isn't chocolate. You don't think sort of dirt or pepple they put in here. I've got to maybe I'll circle back to see if I like those anymore. 01:01:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, you may as well. 01:01:58 Speaker 3: So you're a snack person while you're watching TV. 01:02:00 Speaker 2: Gosh, I should have brought the snacks. Yeah, yes I am. It's the reason I watch TV. 01:02:05 Speaker 3: Of course. 01:02:06 Speaker 2: So you can't do that with the pit I muscle through. 01:02:10 Speaker 3: I do. 01:02:10 Speaker 2: I don't look I mean they go out of their way I think sometimes. 01:02:13 Speaker 3: To be grossy. Right, that's not fair. No, no, no, no. 01:02:17 Speaker 2: They should give like a squeamish warning. 01:02:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be the screen should flash. There should be like a siren that plays something gross is going to happen. 01:02:25 Speaker 2: I think that was just like wait, like we're about to do that, but it's yeah, there's not What can you watch the snacks? 01:02:36 Speaker 3: Well, they come back, they come back. There's there's plenty of television shows you could. I think you could eat popcorn while watching the pit though. I think you want to dry snack while you're watching that because there are a lot of wet, gross things that happen. 01:02:48 Speaker 2: I know, but I don't eat wet snacks, do you. I don't exclusively wet snacks. What are they called gushers? 01:02:55 Speaker 3: Oh, gushers. We've had gushers on this podcast. They were discussed have you had one recent that should be expelled from the market. We've like, we've moved on from that flavor. They were revolting. 01:03:09 Speaker 2: Everything about it is feels toxic. 01:03:11 Speaker 3: Extually, the flavor is absolutely vile. The name is it's tough to get over. 01:03:18 Speaker 2: Everything is. But clearly people buy them. 01:03:21 Speaker 3: I mean there's demands or a company has just forgotten that they make. They just keep creaking because they're true, and I'm like, what parent is buying their I think there was a period when you're like, oh, this is a fruit snack. I put it in totally the lunch for school or whatever. But now we know it's probably worse than candy. 01:03:36 Speaker 2: I think with so many of those snacks, I think that's the case. Right, But popcorn feels safe, well, the kernels. 01:03:42 Speaker 3: But I just mean, for we find out you're just eating kernels unpopped like a bird. 01:03:51 Speaker 2: I like snacks, like eating kernels. 01:03:56 Speaker 3: Your floor is filthy, every belly. 01:04:03 Speaker 2: I like the pit. 01:04:08 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to play Gift to a Curse. I'm gonna put this on the ground because just so we have full view of my laptop. 01:04:15 Speaker 2: For some. 01:04:17 Speaker 3: I don't know why I did that. Now I'm upset with myself. Oh, We're going to play a game called Gift to a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You will tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. First, This is from one of our Patreon listeners, Sarah. Gift or a curse when a family member or friend gives an honest review of your cooking. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure a curse because, oh my gosh, that's a curse because you took time to make something. Oh my gosh. Sorry. I have a very personal example. Yeah, I cook for my kids, and I'm not a good cook or a great cook, but I can put together food and I follow the recipe and it's fine, and they do give me honest reviews and nothing. I've said this a few times. I feel like nothing makes me angrier, but this makes me very hurt and annoyed that I spent time preparing food that is then criticized as not being tasty. So I think it's a curse. It makes everyone mad. I think it's I'm sorry, what was her name, Sarah? I think, Sarah, that it is a curse. And by the way, even if it were an adult family member saying I think this could have you know, more salt, I would say I would take that as a I think it's a curse. 01:05:42 Speaker 3: Oh, Ellie, you're wrong. Oh that's a gift. You're running from. Positive feedback you're running from your critics. I think that you are afraid of getting better. I think that ultimately you need to put your ego aside and say, look, I've nothing but bad meals for my children. They were right. I'm torturing these poor children, and instead of taking their feedback and improving, I'm the martyr. You're always the martyr. Yeah, and I think that you've got to rethink that. 01:06:18 Speaker 2: I am not mad at that. I am listening to what you're saying. 01:06:24 Speaker 3: Okay, you're hearing me. 01:06:25 Speaker 2: I'm hearing you, and I think there's something that can be extracted. 01:06:28 Speaker 3: People love to hear honest feedback about their cooking. Okay, you spend hours of your day putting together the meal and someone says, well, this would have been better with nuts. Yeah, and you say thank you, thank you for saying that, thank you. Okay, Well, we've gotten one wrong so far. Let's see zero zero zero, trying to be nice by saying you've gotten one wrong. Okay. The second one is from a listener named Lucy. Let's say gift or a curse concert encurse. 01:07:00 Speaker 1: Oh. 01:07:01 Speaker 2: I think that's well, it depends. Okay, I'm going to say that's a gift. I think it's a gift because if you're at the concert, you're clearly a fan, and what could be nicer than the performer giving you some extra I guess love, some extra attention, some extra songs, which some extra art, which is what you came there to enjoy. Again, it's hard because it's like the performer want to do an encore. Of course they love attention, so it is a gift, correct. 01:07:38 Speaker 3: I think they're a gift. I think that they've gotten a lot of you know, people are obvious, like it's too much. I hate sending her clapping and waiting for them to come back on. I think you have to reframe this in your mind. There are two good things about a concert encore. First of all, if you aren't totally exhausted by the end and don't want to go home desperately, little extra music for you to listen to. If you do want to leave now, you can get out before everybody else gets out. You get to your car first. This is something people forget about. 01:08:10 Speaker 2: Yep. 01:08:11 Speaker 3: If you don't want it, just leave and you seem kind of cool, like everyone watches you leave like, well, I guess they're just better than this. 01:08:18 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 01:08:20 Speaker 3: It seems like they have standards. Yeah, and you're on your way to your car. You get out sooner. So it's you just have to choose what you want there. 01:08:28 Speaker 2: Okay. As you have done many times in this conversation, you've offered some insight that I didn't have. You have the option to leave. 01:08:35 Speaker 3: You have the option to leave. If that's my second book, Yes, you have the option to leave. 01:08:41 Speaker 2: Tell them you have the option to leave that. But that is either you stay for the encore, enjoy it, or you leave. I like that a lot. A lot of people have been saying there's too much clapping. 01:08:56 Speaker 3: I really do think that people have a problem with encorese Sometimes I think they're like, oh, I have to stand here and wait for them to come back on stage. I understand the little the little show of it of like we know you're coming back. We probably could cut that, we could add to that element, but then there it's part of the framework of the thing. If there's not the phony encore thing, then we don't know if it's really the ends, and then people become confused. Maybe the band could just say that's the end of the set. Now we're going to play two more songs, yes, and and then everyone gets to go home. Let's set some boundaries and the. 01:09:30 Speaker 2: People know what they're That would be fine with me. Yes, the fake whatever suspense, it is not necessary. 01:09:37 Speaker 3: And it can start to be a little sad where it's like people aren't clapping that much. 01:09:41 Speaker 2: How hard is that? 01:09:42 Speaker 3: And there's just the expectation that they're coming out and it's like, well, then the concept of encore has kind of been lost. But you've gotten one right. 01:09:51 Speaker 2: So far, so I'm going to focus on one. 01:09:54 Speaker 3: Be very careful on this next one. This is from a listener named Douglas. Gift or a curse? Oh, this is another concert one actually when the band makes the audience sing the chorus of a song. 01:10:05 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I think that's a gift, Douglas, because and I'm really the thinking about the Billy Joel documentary I saw earlier this year, and when everybody would sing Piano Man together, and I just that's the only way I would have known that people sometimes sing piano Man together by watching the Billy Joel documentary. I think it is okay. I think you and I might find it annoying just because what is it not everyone's on key, and it's it's something about it is annoying, but ultimately it's a gift because it's shared humanity and we all how nice that we By the way, I'm not talking about the Eras tour. 01:10:47 Speaker 3: I think that is a whole what's happening there. 01:10:49 Speaker 2: I just feel like I didn't attend one. But I think that's its own category. She doesn't a word, she did a big reveal, she just stands. Yeah, she puts a GHOne out to the crowd for three hours. They're like, it was an amazing, groundbreaking tour. But I do think that. I think everyone sings the whole fat time and it's joyful. But where am I? I'm all over the map with this. I think it's ultimately a gift people sharing in something joyful. 01:11:18 Speaker 3: Wrong, Oh, come on, wrong, wrong, wrong, This is something that's a curse people. The band asking the audience to sing along is such a scam. I'm not here to not hear you sing. I'm not here And it's the chorus, the best part. And now suddenly a bunch of annoying strangers is singing the song around me. Yeah, I'm not participating. I'm not going to participate. So I'm standing there. What am I supposed to do in this moment? Right other than just be furious that I've been ripped off. This band has my money and they're not doing they're not putting in the work. 01:11:56 Speaker 2: That's right, yeap, I completely see it that way. 01:12:00 Speaker 3: Well, you got one out of three. 01:12:03 Speaker 2: That's a third. That's a third, but it's not zero. 01:12:07 Speaker 3: It's not zero, and we are so happy for that. I am. 01:12:13 Speaker 2: I am blessed. I'm too. 01:12:17 Speaker 1: Too. 01:12:17 Speaker 2: What is it too blessed to be stressed? 01:12:20 Speaker 3: To be stress? Yeah? Ellis? Do you have a gift a curse? 01:12:24 Speaker 1: Oh? 01:12:24 Speaker 3: I can Oh, Ellis has a gift a curse where they're going to give us a thing and we both have to speak to it, and then Ellis, we'll have an answer. I don't know if it'll be right or wrong. I'll decide it sounds right, Ellis, does that sound right to you? 01:12:38 Speaker 2: Yes? 01:12:39 Speaker 3: Yes? 01:12:39 Speaker 4: Okay, this is going to be a little bit of a weird one, but we're going to try it. Okay, When something funny happens in a movie and your friend wants to make eye contact. 01:12:49 Speaker 3: With you as they laugh, Oh, do you want to speak to this first? 01:13:00 Speaker 2: To me, it's obvious what it was. It is a curse straight from hell because you just are having a good time. Just make eye contact. It's like in you mean, I think it's a curse. Straight up. 01:13:19 Speaker 3: I agree. I think that's a curse. I've had it happened to me before, very rarely. But you feel their eyes and you're like, you can just hear me laughing, don't You don't need more confirmation? What like? Is this a secret between us? Now? I understand why. 01:13:35 Speaker 2: We're Is it from a movie or something you're watching? 01:13:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're sitting there with this has never happened to you with a friend where something funny is happening and they're almost like confirming with you through eye contact. That's right, what you're talking about elis right? Correct? 01:13:48 Speaker 2: Yes? 01:13:48 Speaker 3: Oh hell oh, I've had apparently enough that I've, like you, developed an opinion that can you imagine? 01:13:59 Speaker 2: No, sometimes if I hear someone laughing, I'll look over to make sure they're okay, that they're not you know, choking or whatever. 01:14:06 Speaker 3: I never Oh, horrible, what do you do? I feel uncomfortable and then I try to like and then I really don't turn my head at all. Towards them, I like almost turn slightly to another direction just so that can't happen again. 01:14:19 Speaker 2: Just enjoy it. 01:14:20 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what like what do you need me to validate? 01:14:24 Speaker 2: That's I that requires analysis? 01:14:27 Speaker 3: Or is that a thing where it's like, Oh, I gave you a little treat by showing you this funny thing. Look at me? 01:14:32 Speaker 2: Oh the worst you mean if the person has shown you right like, ah, so you like, don't get you're it's all. It's awful. So much pressure. 01:14:43 Speaker 3: We have way too much pressure. Yeah, Oh, kill the mood. 01:14:47 Speaker 2: Kill the mood. 01:14:49 Speaker 4: And uh. 01:14:51 Speaker 2: If someone is showing you, oh, did you see this video and then you watch it while they watch you, awful. But if it's something you've both stumbled them upon, like independent or whatever, like just my chance, and then you're looking. 01:15:00 Speaker 3: You're sharing it, and you're both aware that it's funny, but you don't have to confirm it. No, no, no, no, And no one should ever show another person in public a funny video. Don't do that to anyone in your life. Send it to them and let them do that in private. Don't make me perform for your because you can. 01:15:17 Speaker 2: And it's usually if it's somebody you know, well, they know you're fake laughing. It's all. It's just a terrible, terrible thing that happens. 01:15:25 Speaker 3: Evil Ellis, Did we get the answer correct? 01:15:28 Speaker 4: I tried not to lead too much, but I just needed a moment to complain about it, because it's of course it's a curse. 01:15:34 Speaker 1: Ok. 01:15:35 Speaker 3: Good, it is so awful. 01:15:37 Speaker 4: I'm laughing at the screen. 01:15:39 Speaker 3: Why do I Why is this? 01:15:40 Speaker 2: Now? 01:15:41 Speaker 4: I'm performing for you like I'm laughing with you as No, we're watching a thing together. 01:15:47 Speaker 3: I'm not. 01:15:49 Speaker 4: This is it's bizarre behavior. And now the worst thing is that I had a friend who did this so much with me. I've started to do it with other people and I catch myself because it's so obnoxious. 01:16:00 Speaker 2: Oh so that is remarkable that your friend's behavior, yeah, transferred onto you, and now you are following doing the thing you hate. I'm so sorry. 01:16:13 Speaker 3: Now. There is something I in the same category that I think you should do is when you've prepared food for someone, when they take a bite, lock eyes with them, maintain eye contact for that first bite, just follow them through the whole bite. I hate it. 01:16:30 Speaker 2: I hate eye contact. 01:16:33 Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it's almost just entirely unnecessary. 01:16:36 Speaker 2: It really is. It's so bad. 01:16:39 Speaker 3: Well we all got the answer right on that one. That's very nice. 01:16:42 Speaker 2: Fee. 01:16:43 Speaker 3: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. People are writing into I said, no gives it gmail dot com just kind of in general begging for answers. We hope me answer a question. All right, this is Hello Bridger. They don't say anything. 01:16:57 Speaker 2: To you, Ali, and that's fine. 01:16:58 Speaker 3: Cruel. This says, I'm joking. Wait, I'm joking about her being my neurology. This is very confusing. Okay, I am joking about her being my neurologist. But my girlfriend is a neurologist. Okay, so let's just unpack this really quickly. So we think that the girlfriend's actually a neurologist. But then the partner is like, you're my neurologist because you deal with my brain. Is that what the tri question? We're on or off to a bad story? 01:17:27 Speaker 2: We did? 01:17:28 Speaker 3: Hold on. I feel like I've We're like, we gotta figure this out quick. This is I don't think unless part of it, because this is Hella Bridger, then we get into it. Unless I've been hacked Russian interference in my email. No, this is how it starts so let's just assume girlfriend is a board certified neurologist. Partner is like, a, you're my neurologist too, because I'm so my brain's crazy and this is so. 01:17:59 Speaker 2: Much better that what does the text I want to I'm a text? Uh? What is it if somebody believes the constitution? Oh? Is that a text based? 01:18:10 Speaker 3: Do you want me to read this? Let me read this full sentence to you, because that's not the full sentence. Even I'm joking about her being my neurologist, but my girlfriend is a neurologist, and I would like to propose. So there there's the full sentence. 01:18:23 Speaker 2: I'm joking about her being my neurologist. 01:18:25 Speaker 3: But she is a neurologist. This whatever information has been given to. 01:18:29 Speaker 2: Us is it's so, how is he with a neurologist? 01:18:33 Speaker 3: Well, and by the way, she women can be neurologists and lesbians, ellie and bad at writing emails. 01:18:47 Speaker 2: Sorry, women can do anything, My bad. 01:18:52 Speaker 3: We've just proven they can have it all. 01:18:54 Speaker 2: I think what she's saying is way simpler than what you were saying. All of a sudden, you're like, well, she's my neurologist, and she she because she deals with my brain. 01:19:05 Speaker 3: What do you think it is? 01:19:06 Speaker 2: I think she's saying, hey, baby, you're mine. Now you're you're my neurologist, Like you're you're my sweetheart, like you're sorry, you're my Lloyd. 01:19:13 Speaker 3: It's a term of endearment. 01:19:15 Speaker 2: I think it's like like, oh, like, oh, you're my writer, like you're like my fireman. Like it's just you're saying putting my in front of the person's job. 01:19:27 Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm saying. 01:19:29 Speaker 2: It is like like, I'm fisher. 01:19:35 Speaker 3: What you said? Oh no, did you think a fisherman. I'm glad fisherman. Uh fisherman fishermen? Uh oh yeah, I don't know what I was official? 01:19:46 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe official. 01:19:48 Speaker 3: Okay, so this person has created a problem for us that is nearly unsolvable already, and we're not even getting into the email. 01:19:54 Speaker 2: No, no, no, let's well put that aside. We may have to revisit and now, just again, can you read it moment time. 01:20:00 Speaker 3: I'm joking about her being my neurologist, But my girlfriend is a neurologist, and I would like to propose continuing. I think proposals are basically the gift of a curated romantic experience unique to the proposal recipient. My question is, how can I do something more original than going to dinner? A little about her very feminine, loves very fancy slash elegant things. Enjoys fine dining and food experiences, but I know she would not want a proposal at dinner. She's very smart, loves to travel, enjoys the outdoors but not camping. Loves horror movies and graphic novels. Hoping for your help, we've gotten to the end of the email. That's Kristen. Kristen is looking to propose to what could possibly be a neurologist, but not her. Neurologist, not hers, but in a very funny way. Yes, yes, not joking, Kristin. I'm sorry, but you should have been We should we should have had a call about this, Kristen. 01:21:00 Speaker 2: CHRISTI I feel confident that there's that what you're saying makes sense, But I don't understand. 01:21:06 Speaker 3: What you mean. Right. We're not in on your cute little joke, but we but we have the. 01:21:11 Speaker 2: Facts, which is that your girlfriend is a neurologist and you want to propose to her. 01:21:14 Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations for so long, so exciting. 01:21:18 Speaker 2: Second of all, what are your ideas? 01:21:20 Speaker 3: Okay, well, we've got all these different details. She's very feminine. She doesn't want to go out to dinner. 01:21:25 Speaker 2: She although she likes fine dining, she loves fine dining, but she likes but not at a restaurant. 01:21:31 Speaker 3: Will not be proposed to or for dinner. 01:21:34 Speaker 2: So do you think that means that she doesn't want people around, or like she wants a private proposal, or. 01:21:40 Speaker 3: Oh, I think that it's more just like she thinks that that's kind of cliche. Don't take me to a fancy restaurant and hide it in the dessert. I've seen it before. 01:21:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So she likes the outdoors, but she doesn't like camping, camping. 01:21:54 Speaker 3: She hates camping. She loves horror movies and graphic novels. So how do we have an original proposal? And proposals seem to be very high stakes at this point, they're almost like proposals. They're you know, they're people are doing all sorts of things for these Yes, that's right, and whatever happened to will you marry me? I don't know. I'm seeing horror movies. I'm thinking how many proposals have been terrifying? 01:22:23 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 01:22:24 Speaker 3: How do we turn this into a terrifying situation for this neurologist where she thinks her life is in danger? She dragged through just this horrible, scary experience that ends in I'm getting married? 01:22:38 Speaker 2: Does she? Where are they? Where do they live? 01:22:40 Speaker 3: Great questions? Okay, all these details details galore, couldn't tell us where they live? 01:22:48 Speaker 2: I was the first thing that comes to my mind, is is zi a haunted house situation they could go through? I mean, I don't know. That might not be scary enough, right, I think there are some legitimately terrifying not to bring up New York here and then the trash can, but I do think there's some legitimately I'm sure in it. Well, I don't know where they're. 01:23:04 Speaker 3: From, right, But they love to travel, so they can go anywhere. They could travel to a scary place, to a scary place. 01:23:10 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe it just needs to be a legitimately scary place, haunted house aside, just a scary place. 01:23:18 Speaker 3: Cornfield, Yes, the middle of the ocean at night. What else is scary? 01:23:26 Speaker 2: The middle of the ocean at night? 01:23:28 Speaker 3: A Cornfield's abandoned warehouse. 01:23:30 Speaker 2: Abandoned warehouse, a cave, oh, a cave, deep in a cave. She likes the outdoors, right, she doesn't like camp. 01:23:38 Speaker 3: Interesting combination of the outdoors and horror cave in Cornfield. Oh yes, yeah, sure. Uh so maybe you kind of take her into one of these outdoors. 01:23:49 Speaker 2: Oh well, I know that you don't like the Sorry, she doesn't like cliches. But if she does like fine dining, could you at least could it be an organ that sorry, something that looks like an organ but it is actually you know, bef you know, fishermen, fishermen, that's actually a fisherman. But that you turns out to be good food. 01:24:13 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, just a nice setting that maybe the dinner goes wrong, something scary happen. 01:24:20 Speaker 2: Not where I was going with it, but I like that idea. 01:24:22 Speaker 3: And now I'm thinking about this. You know, this would be an extreme case. But the scariest movie I've ever seen is Zodiac. Yeah, I believe you, And there's a scary picnic scene in the movie. If you were to kind of redo the Zodiac picnic scene, but then the Zodiac the you know, the hired actor you've hired to be Zodiac killer actually ends up having the ring terrifying you think your lives are over, but no, they're just about to begin. That's how romantic could it possibly? 01:24:53 Speaker 2: I think I think that combines horror, romance, picnics, picnic outside outside, is it sorry? Is it picnic at night? 01:25:04 Speaker 3: No? This is again that if it's a tough scene to watch, daylight. 01:25:10 Speaker 2: Scarier, way scarier, way scarier. 01:25:12 Speaker 3: And that's why he was the Zodiac and nobody else could be. Uh huh, he was scary. 01:25:17 Speaker 2: Why did you watch that movie? But you can't you can't watch the Pit? Well, I don't know what I haven't seen Zodiac. 01:25:23 Speaker 3: Zodiac is the Pit is just so much close up on limbs and yeah, gore. Yeah, there's not really that much gore in Zodiac. 01:25:30 Speaker 2: There is no. 01:25:31 Speaker 3: It's more it's like, you do see some horrible things happen, but it's like not bloody, right, I mean, it's so it's crazy how scary that movie is considering what you actually like, You really don't. I'm trying to think of how much blood you actually see. 01:25:46 Speaker 2: No, it's is it psychological? 01:25:47 Speaker 3: But you're watching this man, You're watching some people get murdered. 01:25:52 Speaker 2: It's I don't know why you watched that, but that's oh it's so good. I guess I guess I should. It's just you've described yourself as fragile. 01:26:00 Speaker 3: I like horror movies, and Zodi's not really a horror movie. 01:26:03 Speaker 2: It's right. 01:26:05 Speaker 3: True, I mean, it's a true. 01:26:06 Speaker 2: Story, but I like the you're getting from that for this proposal, right. 01:26:13 Speaker 3: Put your lives in danger is what I'm trying to say. 01:26:15 Speaker 2: Ultimately, Now, will Kristen Kristen will know well, Kristen know that they're safe or. 01:26:21 Speaker 3: No, yes Kristen, Well that's up to Kristen. If Kristen wants to put their lives in genuine danger, that's up to Christen. We know that Kristen can get a little wild and things they do writing emails, et cetera. So maybe this is the next step writing a strange first opening sentence to an email, then hiring someone who don't trust to act like they're going to kill you and see what happens. Well, I think we answered the question, Kristen, and we've got two people to fall even more in love with each other. 01:26:52 Speaker 2: Happy trails. Congratulations you guys, Well. 01:26:57 Speaker 3: We answered the question perfectly. I've got a new garbage can. Yeah, what more can I ask for? 01:27:03 Speaker 4: Three? 01:27:03 Speaker 2: Hundred and one. That's what you can ask for. 01:27:06 Speaker 3: We'll try to do at least one more episode here, uh hopefully hopefully more than maybe two or three more. 01:27:15 Speaker 2: I don't know how much energy do you do one podcast as another Mel Robbins, one podcast at a time. Just focus on the one you're in. You're going to be at six hundred in no time, and I'm going to be right next to you. 01:27:28 Speaker 3: You're going to be here and you're bringing don't I hope you already? Because there are two different things. 01:27:33 Speaker 2: Different things, and I know which one it's going to be, so you even if you remember one, you won't know if that's what it's. 01:27:39 Speaker 3: This is an incredible thing. We've got to get through these episodes quick. We're going to start doing three a day. 01:27:45 Speaker 2: You just have to have how many have you a repeat guest? We have. 01:27:50 Speaker 3: A few. If somebody's a repeat guest, they've got to be a good person. 01:27:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of people. 01:27:57 Speaker 3: That's a lot of yeah, truly, just it's three hundred people. You know, it's a finding people. 01:28:03 Speaker 2: Finding people is finding people. 01:28:06 Speaker 3: You don't see people that often. There aren't many of them left. 01:28:11 Speaker 2: There are divine. Yeah, it's such a huge accomplishment to have reached three hundred. 01:28:17 Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you, and thank you for being here. I'm so glad you could be here on this one. 01:28:20 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me and in Los Angeles too. 01:28:23 Speaker 3: We're really unbelievable. 01:28:24 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 01:28:25 Speaker 3: The city is better off having Elie Camper, oh both of us. Oh maybe now it's like back to neutral or something. 01:28:33 Speaker 2: Very kind of you. 01:28:35 Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over this episode. At least, what if that was the end of the podcast as we know it? Uh no, this is the podcast is coming to a close. I'm so glad we could do three hundred episodes together, and I assume you've listened to every single one of them. If you are just joining us today, I'm sure this is just impossible to tell how what's going on, and it require so much context. You probably had a horrible experience, and I'm sorry you should have started at number one. That's how podcasts work. But thank you for being here, and we'll just continue to move into the future. I love you, goodbye, I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? I invit? 01:29:42 Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, goo, that's your own presences, presents enough. 01:30:04 Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?