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Speaker 2: You are They're two words. I saw your n even box,

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: What was burglarized? Was I actually don't know money? Money

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Speaker 2: You know you're making a joke.

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Speaker 3: This is real.

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Speaker 2: Have you told this before?

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Speaker 2: But now that i've are we worried about legal things

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Speaker 2: Tell me what you saw, Okay.

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Speaker 3: But money because I was like the night shift manager

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Speaker 2: I got it. I'm sorry that they were.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I know who it was. This guy

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Speaker 3: Alex certainly did it. He was he had a bad attitude,

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, if it's not you, who could it

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Speaker 2: Why what this is what I want to know that

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Speaker 3: To that You wasn't there because I was the manager, right,

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Speaker 3: You would put it the money, the cash in a

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Speaker 2: It sounds so specific and thought.

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Speaker 2: And then anyone could have done it. I don't know

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Speaker 3: That's that happened. And then they I think they kind

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was accused. No, I wasn't. I think

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Speaker 3: Oh is this not a heist movie?

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Speaker 3: And how did you prove you hadn't?

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. We like improved our way out

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Speaker 2: it hurts to be accused of something you didn't do.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's deeply painful. Yeah, but if you had done it,

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Speaker 2: Easy? I told you, is in a box.

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Speaker 3: This is a thing where if you're a business, let's

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Speaker 2: And you know, we were talking about this earlier. I

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Speaker 2: That's made up, of course people in stealing since.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it's one of the original crimes, stealing cash.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Yes, was there anyone on the team

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope, I hope it was worth it to that.

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Speaker 2: I hope it was. You know, it's like you have

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Speaker 2: I know who would have.

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Speaker 3: Somebody showed up in a new shirt the next day?

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Speaker 2: You connect the toss?

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Speaker 3: My friends, how much money are we talking about here?

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Speaker 3: It was like after an improv.

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Speaker 3: Interesting if it weren't well it's true. Wow, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting Have you ever stolen anything?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it seems to.

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Speaker 3: Be like that seems to be a central tenet of

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Speaker 2: Well, there is. I was just listening to something about

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have good for you. I had

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Speaker 2: to think long and hard about that. I've certainly never shoplifted, Okay,

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Speaker 3: That's what separates you. Yeah, I'm a heavy or was

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Speaker 2: Did you have a problem with it?

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Speaker 3: No, no problem. My only problem was I wasn't shoplifting enough. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know this. Yeah, it's so, but

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Speaker 3: No, this was certainly they had security cameras. I think

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a justifiable crime where you're like, well,

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Speaker 3: This T shirt should not be three dollars. And then

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Speaker 2: It does feel I have to say, I'm not. It's

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Speaker 2: But I also like just the principle of it. But

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Speaker 2: if we like break it down, who is being hurt?

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Speaker 3: Right, absolutely nobody.

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Speaker 2: Would you have gone to a change like a retail store.

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Speaker 3: I think that's scarier because they care more.

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Speaker 2: Oh so not about whether it's right or wrong.

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Speaker 3: Who cares if it's right or wrong?

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Speaker 2: We're we're post right, right, we are way past that.

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Speaker 1: No.

440
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 3: I For me, it was it didn't feel wrong at all. Yeah,

441
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: it for whatever reason, a thrift store one for the

442
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 3: thrift store one. It didn't feel wrong. It felt exciting. Yeah,

443
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 3: and it felt like, well, I'll probably end up donating

444
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: this back at some point.

445
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: You got it, and your friends were This was with friends.

446
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: Friends were doing it. Every high schooler was doing it. Well,

447
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: maybe not every high school or yeah, I shouldn't.

448
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: Some people had worlds, but it does. But it does

449
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: feel like different from I don't.

450
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: But I like a regular store. I actually, uh yeah, morally,

451
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: I think that there are plenty of stores where I'm like, yeah,

452
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 3: shoplift from them too, they're equally bad or whatever. And

453
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm not speaking for Ellie here.

454
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, we'll give me looking at

455
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: every every every camera. No. I that's right. I apparently

456
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: have never stolen anything, or so I'm saying, you're an angel.

457
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 2: I really don't think I must have stolen something off them.

458
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 2: I think about it, and I also am acting like, oh,

459
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: I never, but I've done.

460
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: Well. Stealing is scary.

461
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 2: It's so scary because not that I've done it, but

462
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: it does. It's scary, and with good reason, the fear

463
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 2: that you might get caught, Yes, and that's a good

464
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: thing to scare from doing it. But also yeah, I

465
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: think even if there were no victim, I still think

466
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: I would be like, but it's.

467
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: Wrong, right, I guess right. Yeah. The one like real

468
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: experience with shoplifting I had was my brother. My mom

469
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: had taken us all shopping to something called chopcoat and

470
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 3: my brother changed the price on like a model plane

471
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: or something, and my mom bought it unwittingly. And then

472
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 3: the what they dragged my poor mom through in the

473
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 3: security room is I mean, it was beyond it, like

474
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: brutalized this poor mother. She's got four children and no,

475
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: it's just like just what So it was really traumatic.

476
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: They was this all the same visit or they called.

477
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: It was all the same visit. They caught us on

478
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: the way out.

479
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: That's absurd.

480
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: At shop CO.

481
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: Did your brother ever admit to He.

482
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: Must have admitted, but he was probably nine or.

483
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: What a waste of resources? No, I can't imagine. And

484
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: it's you know a little like slap on the wrist

485
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: and your mother.

486
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: I know, the stakes couldn't have been higher for SHOPCT right,

487
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: and they probably lost three dollars. Yeah, it was one

488
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: of these things. I think this is like a new

489
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: thing among retailers. Most of the time, if it's like

490
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: a low key thing, they're like, just leave them alone.

491
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 3: It's a waste of resources.

492
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 2: Well, and I also think right with all the like

493
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: self checkout, that they have calculated a certain number of

494
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: people are just going to see they to take things.

495
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's really nothing we can do. Yeah, it's

496
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: worth it to not pay human beings to do the job.

497
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: That's what. That's the math they've worked out, and I

498
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: have to I don't know which one. Oh wait, do

499
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: I know which one? You choose? You choose not checking

500
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: self check.

501
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: Oh I do whatever. Oh okay, I'm kind of in

502
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: some places you kind of have no option at this point.

503
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: Target it's like there's this one harried employee who has

504
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: fifty person people they are doing, and then there's the

505
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: self checkout.

506
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: I know the other day it was taking so long

507
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: in line for the human I was like, don't be

508
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: overt just but like I did want to move over

509
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: to the self checkout. I had to go to the

510
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: person because of the security. Oh they're not tags, they're

511
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: security whatever things on the clothes. So I went to

512
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 2: the but I was trying to do it so like discreetly, so.

513
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: It's not too right, right, like get them in trouble

514
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 3: for going too slow or something.

515
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: And it was it's just it's fun at first because

516
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: you get disapped, sure, and then it's just it's I

517
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. I don't run a business. Again,

518
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: I guess the math shakes out. But it's just a.

519
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: Bummer, all right, It's just kind of they's just a

520
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: continual bummer among industries at this point.

521
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Right. So then if you feel so sometimes something doesn't scan.

522
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: It does run through my head like just take it.

523
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: But you know that. But then you're on you see your.

524
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 3: You see your face right, yes, unflattering portray. Look at you,

525
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: you hideous thief.

526
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: It's like that's why it's there, Yeah, just to remind

527
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: you just.

528
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: To look at yourself.

529
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: What are you doing? How has it come to this?

530
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: Stealing from target? Anyway? And then and then I never do.

531
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 3: I just never. I actually will say those. The thing

532
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 3: where it shows your face almost looks like a cool

533
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: music video or something apps. So then you're hearing cool

534
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: music in your head and you're thinking, I'm gonna I'm

535
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: gonna do something cool. I'm gonna steal. Yes, I look

536
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: cool on camera.

537
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: You're so right, it actually is counterproductive.

538
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: I need to make those more unflattering or something, uh huh,

539
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: or have like a photo of an attractive person next

540
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: to us. You're comparing yourself. You're like, what am I?

541
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: How do I become that?

542
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 2: It's yeah, exactly, m M yeah, I don't know.

543
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: I don't know either. Well I do, there is something

544
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: I do know about speaking of just crimes that shouldn't

545
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 3: be forgiven, et cetera. Ellie, I was excited to have

546
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: you here today. I've been doing the podcast for a

547
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: long time. I've done a lot of episodes. I think

548
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: we've probably had two duds. I know we've had two duds.

549
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: I was we wouldn't have a third. The podcast is

550
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: called I said no gifts, so I was a little surprised,

551
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: after the billion emails that were exchanged, et cetera, that

552
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: you arrived with a gift. I did, and.

553
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: I know you said no gifts. I didn't know if

554
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: you were just being polite. It's three hundred episodes.

555
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: You've done, right, so there's.

556
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: Bee hundred you should be celebrated.

557
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: So this is almost unrelated. You're just bringing it as

558
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: a celebration.

559
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Congratulations too. A gift giving is very

560
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: popular where I come from, and I thought you should

561
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: be given a gift. But I seem to have offended you,

562
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: and I'm really sorry.

563
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: So you've gotten caught up in some gift giving fad.

564
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's more than a fad.

565
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: I think it's like across cultures, people give gifts.

566
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: It's here to stay.

567
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: I think it's here to stay.

568
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 3: Well, should we open it here on the podcast?

569
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're okay, okay, thank you for

570
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: being a good sport about it.

571
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: Of course I try. I'm working on that in therapy.

572
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: I've now blocked myself on the camera for a minute,

573
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 3: and I'm sure everyone's freaking out and we can't leave

574
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: it for just some minutes just so people are sweating.

575
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: Is it going to leave it here the whole episode?

576
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: The gift bag is very big. Yeah, it probably my

577
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: size and.

578
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: It might be your size. And you'll see when you

579
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: get the gift. Oh now you're blocking me. Now you'll

580
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: see when you get the gift.

581
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: This is the thrill of video, just blocking.

582
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: Cat's I'm a huge prop comic and so I know.

583
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: But it the gift is half the size.

584
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm the bad And it's in this gorgeous kind

585
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: of mint green with polka doonts.

586
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: I think it's from Target.

587
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: It's from Tart. You filled this with items other items

588
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: that were also so that was a famous shoplifting thing.

589
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: What somebody in my high school, stole a suitcase and

590
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: then put other objects in the amount of things, and

591
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: then one of the I'm sorry to go on attention.

592
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: He stole a used Burger King polo. Then use that

593
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: to go work at Burger King. Wait, this person was amazing.

594
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Wait was this from the thrift story? Yeah? Hell did

595
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: he king already? No?

596
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: Wait what this person stole all kinds of things inside

597
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: a stolen suitcase, walked out of the thrift store with

598
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: the suitcase. One of those things was a Burger King polo.

599
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Then he put that on and went to Burger King

600
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: and worked, went behind the counter to work at Burger

601
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: ca untrained train just like for a period. This is

602
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: this is a remarkable team.

603
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable.

604
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: Teens can surprise you the end them. Give him a chance,

605
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: Give him a chance, Give teens a chance.

606
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: Are you in touch with him?

607
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: I'm not in touch with him. He was like a

608
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: friend of a friend.

609
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: I wonder what I don't probably works at Burger King.

610
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: That was a stream job. He would do whatever it

611
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: took to work.

612
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: He was he couldn't get a job the regular way,

613
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: so he dressed as an employee and showed up. That's brilliant.

614
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: Maybe I should try that free time. Okay, let's get

615
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: into this. We've got tissue. Okay, do you want to

616
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: do that on your mind, I'll do it. Oh gorgeous, Okay,

617
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm reaching in.

618
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this a garbage garbage can?

619
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: What does this say? Oh? Street name, New York street name.

620
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So it's it's a two fer. There's

621
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: two in one here. Because you're a writer, sometimes.

622
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: You have what I would say thriving industry.

623
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Never, I don't doubt that a lot of your

624
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: first drafts are perfect. But sometimes writers have first drafts

625
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: that they have to toss in the So that's a

626
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: trash can for any discarded first draft.

627
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: It's just immediately attacking my ability for your first, your second,

628
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: your third, your fourth draft you're writing is garbage. Here's

629
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: where you should This is where your career.

630
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: This is where it is in the tank, and this.

631
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: Is what your career is missing.

632
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: This is it a garbage No, no, no, all joking aside,

633
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: it's for the first drafts, right, So then you do

634
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: the first draft and you and you say, okay, I'm

635
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: going to make these edits, and then you enter the

636
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: edits in the second draft, and then you discard the

637
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: first draft. Right, it's all great writers discard their first dress.

638
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: So that's what that's for. But the main reason is

639
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: because of the.

640
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: New York connection, of course.

641
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: So for those of you listening not watching, there are

642
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: New York places for this trash camp. Ninth Street in Brooklyn,

643
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Borough Hall, King's Highway, a place I've never used.

644
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: Highway. Interesting, that's also the name of a diner in

645
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: Palm Springs that could be doing a better job. Yeah, sorry,

646
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: King's Highway. You could. You have a beautiful environment. Let's

647
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: get the food up to speak. Yea King's Highway. I've

648
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: never heard of King's Highway.

649
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: You're in my life in New York, but I guess

650
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: it's there. Coney Island, J Street, Pearl Hall for Brooklyn twice.

651
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: Now.

652
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: The reason I thought they ran names? No, Brooklyn, they

653
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: literally ran out of Brooklyn. Let's do Brooklyn again. White Street,

654
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Coney Island, No, it is only other ones.

655
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: It's they certainly ran out of names. The reason I thought, okay,

656
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: New York trash can Bridger is because we know each

657
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: other from me.

658
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: Yes, that's where we met.

659
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know how much time you spent total

660
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: in New York.

661
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean when I was working on Kimmy, it was

662
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: like a year total, And then regrettably made the decision

663
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: not to go back, which was whatever.

664
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 2: I want to get into that. Yeah, we should get

665
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: it really well, but and I don't want to bring

666
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: back some pains painful members. All I hear all. Now

667
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: that I know your time in New York spent weeping

668
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: on the subway, I do apologize for bringing those memories.

669
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: But the other thing is when we first corresponded about

670
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: this show, yes we you had you were in New York.

671
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought that you were in New York

672
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: because I had reached out like would you want to

673
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: do an episode in New York?

674
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: And like a monster, I did not reply right.

675
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: Like a monster, I started, I mean, the word has

676
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: been spread and there's no taking up back. Oh I've

677
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: really I've made a mess of your name and.

678
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: You as well. You should. I think it was I

679
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: don't know what it was. It was like a absolutely

680
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: just did not respond for like months.

681
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: No, not months. Maybe you're better, Yeah.

682
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for saying up. But I was thinking, oh, you

683
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: live in New York. Because it was I thought, well,

684
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: he's in New York. What where? Okay, where does he live?

685
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: And so then so I thought, okay, our first correspondent

686
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: was about New York. Then we realized, oh, we're both

687
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and then that's what ultimately brought us together.

688
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of symbolism, I think, right, of course,

689
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: with the New York street names.

690
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: Right, at some point, it feels like you thought, I

691
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: may even be a drifter. Where does it? No one

692
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: can pinpoint where this person actually is on a map.

693
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: He's running person.

694
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: He seems to be in Florida at the King's Highway diner.

695
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: No, that's Palm Spring should King's Highway. You've got a

696
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 3: nice environment. Let's bring up the food to speed.

697
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: He says it again.

698
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, I hold them to I just it's a disappointment

699
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: every time I get it, and I wish the food

700
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: was better.

701
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: And it's just a diner.

702
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: It's a diner attached to the Ace Hotel. It's an

703
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: old Denny's. It's a beautiful environment. I wish they could

704
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: just bring up the food to speed. I'm sorry, King's Highway,

705
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: You've got a beautiful environment.

706
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: Come on, you're saying, bring it off. So yeah, but

707
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: I love New I don't know what your experience.

708
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: I I love New York in some way, I can't

709
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: exist in New York. I have a hard time existing

710
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: in New York.

711
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: All I want to hear why. I mean, I get it.

712
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm too fragile. I'm a fragile baby. No. I grew

713
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: up in Utah, which is more car culture, then moved

714
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: to LA which was an easy enough shift, and then

715
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: when I came and worked on Kimmy, you know, like

716
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: the weather is a little bit more extreme every moment

717
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: you were working to be alive. There are plenty of

718
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: wonderful things. I mean, bakery wise, they've got us beat

719
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: here in LA. Every time I'm there, I'm eating so

720
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 3: many baked goods.

721
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: In New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, incredible, incredible.

722
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I was there in April, and you know,

723
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: when you go in the fall or spring in New York,

724
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: it's very seductive. You think I should live here for

725
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: the rest of my life. But this April, the first

726
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: three days was probably ninety degrees and then the next

727
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: three days was like thirty eight to forty degree, which

728
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: was kind of nice. Where it's like, oh, so these

729
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 3: two weathers here you don't want to leave your apartment.

730
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: Right, right? You do you think there is a fundamental

731
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: like heartiness in uh. I I do think though that

732
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: kind of those that adversity is good for the spirit.

733
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: But I could be wronged.

734
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: I think it probably is, sure.

735
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not for it's it's very hard.

736
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hard. You. I just and leaving Utah.

737
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: One of the big things I didn't want to experience

738
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: every dain, of course, was the winter. And so having

739
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: winter in any form for me is just too much.

740
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: I've become you, I was on my way. I've been

741
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: on my way to becoming you. But I cannot It's true.

742
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: I cannot tolerate winter anymore. I don't know what happened.

743
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's miserable.

744
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: It's just awful. And in New York you're out in it.

745
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: Yes, so that's very Your feet are wet, uh huh.

746
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: The bottom of your pants is frequently wet. Yes, And

747
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: they're like the brief windows where it looks nice and

748
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: then the rest of its grace lush.

749
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: I know, I know. And then the only thing in

750
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: this winter was like apocalyptic, just frozen the whole. I

751
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: guess that's what I've seen or heard. But I think

752
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: the snow just stayed there for three straight months. But

753
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: which I guess that happens in Chicago or something all

754
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: the time. But I do feel the end of each day,

755
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: you come home and you've earned it, and you've.

756
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: Just oh interesting, yeah, but then what have you earned

757
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: the right to be exhausted and fall asleep on the couch?

758
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: I know, No, You're so right. It's a love hate place.

759
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: If by the way, by the way, if you would

760
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: come back and be like I loved my time there,

761
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: I would be singing it. I'd be like, I know,

762
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: there's right.

763
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: Of course you can convince somebody that they love New

764
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: York and like, I mean, there are so many incredible things, yes,

765
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: but yeah, just for me. I think I may have

766
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: mentioned this on this podcast at some point, but I've

767
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: kind of like come to the realization that if somewhere

768
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: is fun to visit, it's probably not as much fun

769
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: to live there. Oh that's so insightful, because LA, I

770
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: don't think is like a necessarily fun place to visit.

771
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: No one's like, let's go to LA, Like you don't

772
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: take the family to When I see a family that's

773
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: visiting La, I'm like, what are you doing here?

774
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: Polite with deepest respect, disagree.

775
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: Los Angeles proper you think is like a fun okay, well,

776
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: and let me also preface this with like, there's so

777
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: much good food here. I love La person.

778
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: I know you do.

779
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: But when I when somebody comes from and they're not

780
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: familiar with it, they're like, I don't know where to stay.

781
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: I got it.

782
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what I should do. And I think

783
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: it's like a harder city to access, whereas with New

784
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: York it's like every moment you're there, something looks neat,

785
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: there's great food everywhere, and it's just easier, right.

786
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Right right. I think coming here as a to Los

787
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: Angeles I'm trying to help the tourist actually is not

788
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: a bad idea because there are so many like there's

789
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: so many sites that you have read I have not

790
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: been to, but that are you know, like bus ride

791
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: tour buses, Oh yeah, of course, and going to Universal

792
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So there, and there's I went

793
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: on a trip here when I was in college with

794
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: my roommate. We just came here. It's not so weird.

795
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: My roommate and I did come to Los Angeles to

796
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: just check it out. Yeah, and more than that, our

797
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: first celebrity siding happened. Gary Coleman.

798
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, r I p are I the help

799
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: in Utah?

800
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?

801
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: He lived with a woman and he collected trains.

802
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: And was she Mormon?

803
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: She? I just remember she had really small teeth, that

804
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: she had red hair. She did have her red hair. Yeah,

805
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: either of us could play her in.

806
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: That was he? I don't want to. But was did

807
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: she kill him?

808
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't think she killed Oh I thought she did.

809
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: She ellis look into whether or not she killed him.

810
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: That would be a good thing to know.

811
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: I thought she pushed him down the stem.

812
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: Probably she seemed like that. It did seem like a

813
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: tough relition.

814
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Very complicated. Yeah, and ultimately that's I mean it.

815
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: And we wish her the best.

816
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: Yes, it was ruled as an accidental death, but according

817
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 4: to a Hollywood reporter thing from July of twenty twenty five,

818
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: she didn't do so well on the polygraph.

819
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: So twenty twenty five they're looking into it.

820
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: This.

821
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: Wow, people still care? Yeah, two people right here.

822
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: We're cracking the case. Wow.

823
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: What so she's roaming free when she should be behind bars?

824
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: It seems, well, why are they bringing up the polygraph

825
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: test now because it was a long time ago that

826
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 3: he died, right, fortunately, Yes, at least a decade ago

827
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: or something.

828
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's disturbing. I don't know what I mean. When

829
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: these things are revealed years decades later, you think what

830
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: were you doing the whole time?

831
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: Right?

832
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: But in any event, I came here on vacation and

833
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. So but I do know you have a

834
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: very good point, which is visiting a place and it's

835
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: fun is a message not to live there. So I

836
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: do see what you're saying about New York. I do

837
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: want to retire there though, for sure. Oh interesting, Oh

838
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: do you think it'd be easy to retire, Yeah, to.

839
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: Be like an elderly person. It seems like you kind

840
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: of it's just like a city that it's like living

841
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: in a retirement home, but it happens to be a

842
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: city as well. Exactly, there are services everywhere. You can walk,

843
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: you can go down to the street level and there's

844
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: the grocery store.

845
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: Yes, it seems that's exactly where I retirement village right there.

846
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: And you would want to live in the city as

847
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: a retireing, Yeah, for sure, Yes, I think that I

848
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: would be a senior that died in the cold or

849
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: in the heat. So I don't know that that's for me.

850
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: I think that I'm I think I'm stuck in sunny

851
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: southern California, although I like the more the time passes,

852
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm going to certainly we'll all die

853
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: of the heat here.

854
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: It is atrocious and in Locking Yata where I am

855
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: which to listeners who don't or watch viewers, it's bypassa.

856
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been to lock in Loch and yacht's

857
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: anything to say.

858
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: It is so it is so tricky to say. It

859
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: sounds like you're saying lock and YadA.

860
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: Lock Andata. It's a cop duo, Lock and Yata. CBS.

861
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: It's fifteen degrees hotter there all the time. Anyway, It's

862
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: a great place to live.

863
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: It is so many good restaurants. Yes, ah, what we

864
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: should say some nice things about Los Angeles. Wonderful coffee.

865
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: It's great coffee. I think I think the people.

866
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: Are people are a surface level polite. Yeah. I've managed

867
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: to kind of like remove most of the total psychos

868
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: from my life. Oh so there are some psychos, but

869
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: there are psychos everywhere.

870
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: There's cycles everywhere. But how do you You can't remove

871
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: the like stranger psycho.

872
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they'll keep coming in and out.

873
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: But you know, I want to know the man blocking

874
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: the door. But he was a dad.

875
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: It was dad. He had like a like a smaller

876
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: child that could be staying and he was like holding them.

877
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 3: And I was like, I was ready to open the door.

878
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: But then he stood in front of and like let

879
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: himself in and say, sir, I was ready to be

880
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: polite here, and now you've been a horrible example to

881
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 3: your son that's going to be a bad ad.

882
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: It was because he is it, because he had a

883
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: kid and he could do it all.

884
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: I think it was a do it all situation where

885
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you're fine, You're about to get a latte,

886
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: just right. What are we trying to prove for you?

887
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

888
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: I just I my probably my biggest problem with anyone

889
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: is when they are just like are not aware of

890
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: the space they're taking up or are and are doing

891
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: nothing about it.

892
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: So that's something I've struggled with here. I do feel

893
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: like in New York there is a shared sense of

894
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: space and people just understand it. I'm not saying that's like,

895
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: oh wow, what a skill, or like we're so superior.

896
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: But I do think that there's a flow just because

897
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: you're navigating it twenty four to seven with the streets

898
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: with other people. And I've noticed so many times it's

899
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's me, although it could be. I

900
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: don't want to like dismiss that idea, but in a

901
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: Ralph Serretta whatever like store or parking lot situation, there's

902
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: a problem with flow right, specifically pedestrian track.

903
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: Like absolutely right, yeah, and.

904
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm walking this, and then I find

905
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: myself doing that like so often.

906
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think probably because people are frequently not in

907
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: shared space.

908
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: I think that's it, which is part of.

909
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: Why I love being here is not from the shared space.

910
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: But I'm also trained in the the art of like

911
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: being aware of other human bodies, right and just like

912
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: being polite and yeah, getting out of the way.

913
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: I know, how do how are you doing? Like when

914
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: you do encounter the psychos, what do you do?

915
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm just I see if it goes too far, I

916
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: start making like sounds yeah, or like I was at

917
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: found Coffee again. I love the place, but this was

918
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: another experience where a woman had plugged her or her

919
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: car computer charger into the wall, but she was at

920
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: the table over so this one was at my table,

921
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: and so it was it was just shoving into my back,

922
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: which I would be okay with if she said, I'm sorry,

923
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: I have a low battery. Totally not a problem.

924
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Not a problem. I'm happy I can help somehow switch

925
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: with you.

926
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: If that helps. No acknowledgements. And I saw what she

927
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: was working on her computer. It was a bad photoshop job.

928
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: She should probably consider other careers.

929
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: Let the battery die.

930
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, let the battery dice card.

931
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: That's so, did you just.

932
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: Like moving in big ways and no acknowledgment whatsoever.

933
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: That you and I not only have similar complexions but

934
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: similar world views, because that is just so infuriating, And

935
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't I mean, I've you heard about

936
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 2: the let them theory?

937
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

938
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, isn't that well known.

939
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: It's extremely well known, the way that thing took over

940
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: TikTok and Instagram. She was ever everywhere telling everybody to

941
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: let them.

942
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's not I don't know. I have a

943
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: lot of thoughts about that. That's like nothing new, but

944
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy she found a cat's raised. But what it's crazy.

945
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: It is a sort of thing where it's like, oh,

946
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: so you're just saying something that and actually kind of

947
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: promoting something that's more complicated than letting people off the like.

948
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: It's very common. I've tried doing it with my kids

949
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: when they're like being crazy right or annoying, and I'll

950
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: be like, well, like like I was gonna say something horrible,

951
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: but they're like in danger, They're like running with scissors.

952
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, what they're bothering me? It has its limits, right,

953
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: and letting someone plug their thing in such a way

954
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: that is jetting into your back is an example. Let

955
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: them doesn't work. No, it's like, really.

956
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: You should be tell them interesting. That's that's me as

957
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: mel Robins t e l them. It's the let start it, Yes,

958
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: tell them.

959
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: Turn it?

960
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: We turn let around?

961
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, turn let around?

962
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: Around?

963
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: Time to turn let around and tell them.

964
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna do it. I'm got a big

965
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: pair of black glasses. Yes, tell them. I love this.

966
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: I really like it.

967
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: Wow, I think it is something and we need more.

968
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: Tell she was saying, and I don't know if this

969
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: is big on TikTok. But people are getting tattoos of

970
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: let them, and so you I'll be the first, I'll

971
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: get tell them perfect.

972
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: I'll be like, tell them, this is my career safety net.

973
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: Just tell them people are getting let them tattoos. It's

974
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: a little early.

975
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: It's just too early.

976
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: That's like getting Atkins diet tattoo. It's like, no, not

977
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: a few years pass and see if you're you like

978
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: the idea still crazy?

979
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: They saw they just laughed onto it. So fat. Everyone's

980
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: desperate for something.

981
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: You have to something to hang on.

982
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: I know this specific example, it's letting them.

983
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: But the let them kind of went hand in hand.

984
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: I think there was before that. There was a lot

985
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: of sorry if I'm too much for you.

986
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: Just have you ever been called a lot or whatever? Yes,

987
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry too.

988
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, sometimes you are too much and that's a

989
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: problem for other people.

990
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: There are limits behavior. I know the example, and you

991
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: need to cut me off if I'm talking too much.

992
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

993
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: We likewise, yeah, yeah, I will. The example I read,

994
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: I read part of them, I listened to it.

995
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: This is I mean, this is every reader's experience for

996
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: this book.

997
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: I think I think so. Yes, the example she gives

998
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: in the introduction, is that someone is coughing behind her

999
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: on it. We're talking about mel Robbins for you don't know,

1000
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: I knew, you knew.

1001
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and I know what I mean.

1002
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: But so when I say she that's who, and so

1003
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: someone's coughing behind her on a plane, and she's like,

1004
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to get sick. This is so annoying. Like

1005
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: she tried glaring at him through the gap in the seats,

1006
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: and then finally she was like, she's like, what do

1007
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: I always tell people let them? So it came about

1008
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: something like that. So she pulled up her like turtleneck

1009
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: and covered her face and she was like, cough away. No, No,

1010
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: She's like, if I get sick, I get sick. I'm like,

1011
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: that is I don't agree.

1012
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: That's actually the worst example of this.

1013
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: This is clearly clearly post COVID, but it was like

1014
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: a crazy I respect this woman. I don't agree with

1015
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: that example.

1016
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: That's a wild example. Yeah, you tell them or tell

1017
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: the flight attendant.

1018
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 2: Yes, And by the way, by the way, I don't

1019
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: want to again, I don't want to like mischaracterize it.

1020
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: She may have told the person or asked the person

1021
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: to stop and he may have either not understood or

1022
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 2: like agreed to disagree or whatever it was, but kept coughing.

1023
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it's absurd. Wow, but I think that I don't know.

1024
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: I think for your own sanity, you have to say,

1025
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: I can't control this anymore. Right, person's coughing. Right, but

1026
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: it feels defeatist.

1027
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the flight attendant ask to be moved. There

1028
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: are other things. Let them. Yeah, we've got to like

1029
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: there's a balance, mel I'm coming for you. I'm going

1030
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: to be telling them from now. Wow. I found the

1031
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: antidote to I love it. It's incredible.

1032
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: It was like right in front of us the whole time.

1033
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: We just needed a mirror.

1034
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, as a parent, this is another

1035
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: space occupying thing that drives me crazy. Is when someone

1036
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: has a child between like three to seven, and there's

1037
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: a line behind them for whatever service, and they decide,

1038
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: right now is the time for like the child to

1039
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: learn to use the credit card or like to pay,

1040
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: or to like use the soda fountain or whatever. I

1041
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: understand you want your child to but like when there

1042
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: are people behind you, let's maybe we find a different

1043
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: time to do this.

1044
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. What have I strongly

1045
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: disagreed and we got here's what I The first thing

1046
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: that came to mind when you said that is, I'm

1047
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: thinking of the pits, and I'm thinking of I don't know,

1048
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: with residents or below a residence. It's a teaching hospital,

1049
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: so they have to learn, literally on the job. That's

1050
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: how they learn, right, the stakes could and they're doing

1051
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: that giving your child the opportunity or to like order

1052
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: for themselves or like to thank the cat the worst.

1053
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: And I've found myself guilty on this, but guilty of this.

1054
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: But when you are teaching your kid manners in real

1055
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: time and you're like, thank the cashier and they're like

1056
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: and then you're like no, no, no, no, thank the

1057
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: cash and the cashier is like, I do not care.

1058
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: I have a job.

1059
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1060
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1061
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: It's awful. It's so self centered. And it makes as

1062
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: someone who's also received this like say thank you for

1063
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: having me over or whatever. You're like, now I have

1064
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: to wait around and wait for your Can you start.

1065
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: To feel like the bad guy? No, I'm sorry now,

1066
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that they've put us in a situation.

1067
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: I yeah, do not do that. And also there's a

1068
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: there's a like look that a parent will get where

1069
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: it's like I'm doing it right, you know.

1070
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: And I feel bad because I as a non parent

1071
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: anytime I say something about parenting. But this is one

1072
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: where I'm just like, let's let's again find the balance.

1073
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: I agree with everything. Oh my gosh, that was also

1074
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: something I was going to bring you.

1075
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: By the way, what, oh child, you're going to learn

1076
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: it's harder than you think.

1077
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: I pull out.

1078
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: It was.

1079
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: It was a what are they called diffusers read diffusers

1080
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: of balance? I'll give that to you one of the

1081
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: six hundred episode. What you'll forget about it then? Just

1082
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 2: about finding balance?

1083
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 3: Oh right? I mean that is uh in my own life,

1084
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: I could be probably better at that.

1085
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: We all could.

1086
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: I feel like you've probably got a nice balance. I

1087
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: feel like you're a You're a joyful, happy person that

1088
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: always feels like.

1089
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: We we know that's not true, but no, we know

1090
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: who's who is that?

1091
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: But I feel like you are at least headed in

1092
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: the other direction.

1093
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: You know what we are about to be like, we

1094
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: are lucky. I don't know what. It's just felt like

1095
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: a safe thing to say we're blessed.

1096
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 3: Gratitude attitude is the attitude. Dude, Ellie, thank you so

1097
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: much for being here. We're out of time, are we?

1098
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: No? I did, and I was like, that's okay, and

1099
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: then I was gonna like on the drive home, such

1100
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 2: a crazy I was ready for it. It did seem

1101
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: like that's how he ends it. I haven't seen him

1102
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: in another shows that way, but.

1103
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: Special occasion.

1104
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm just three hundred. He's out lose my mind. Tell them,

1105
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: tell them it's over.

1106
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: I have this garbage can no. No. What I was

1107
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: going to say is I'm sorry that I didn't work

1108
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: on more. Kimi should because I adore you. When I

1109
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: adored the show so much so.

1110
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: I was it's mutual. And I also I really liked

1111
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: that whole experience. I think back on it now and I'm.

1112
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: Like, that was so rare wonderful. I mean, for me,

1113
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: it was like a dream, like a miracle. It was

1114
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: like going to the Olympics.

1115
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: It was, but it wasn't. I mean, no, what is

1116
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: it when a storm is when a tornado is about

1117
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: to happen, you hear thunder first. What I mean is.

1118
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: I'm not looking into any of that science. I'm sure

1119
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: it's true.

1120
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: It couldn't have been a shock. It wasn't. You didn't

1121
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: character you didn't call it. I keep saying characterized. You

1122
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: didn't describe it as a shock. But when you said

1123
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: it was like the Olympics, it was like, what, No,

1124
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: it was the next step for it or whatever. Yeah,

1125
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: you're just being a nice person, and I'm no.

1126
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: But it was just one of those things where I like,

1127
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 3: when I worked at Jimmy Kimmel, this is this incredible thing.

1128
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 3: It was so incredible. I was like, I never thought

1129
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: I would make it this far. I'll be at the

1130
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: show for the rest of my life. And then this job,

1131
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: which was like I hate almost all of television, and

1132
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: so to be like, oh, literally the show I want

1133
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: to work on, I get to go work on it

1134
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: completely and write jokes, which is more and more rare.

1135
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: Yes.

1136
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: And then it was just like such a lovely group

1137
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: of people. Yes. So it was just a lovely thing.

1138
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 3: And ultimately a thing that kept me from coming back

1139
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: was the idea of like going back to New York

1140
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: in November, I think, And it was this thing where

1141
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: it's like.

1142
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems this might be a saying that people

1143
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: other than Titus. Lovely, Lovely, Titus says but he always says,

1144
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: I overstand.

1145
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: Is that overstand? Yes, you understand even more.

1146
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: Even and I've only ever heard it from him, so

1147
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: I wanted to credit him.

1148
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: But apparently I'm trying to think, is overstand something that

1149
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: came from the show that Titus the character said?

1150
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: Oh I thought he just said it. He says in

1151
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: real life? Did you see it in the show?

1152
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1153
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: Blurs life is art as life is hard, yes, yes,

1154
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: and so we don't know where the two separate. But

1155
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: I do overstand coming back in November to New York.

1156
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: It's no joke.

1157
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: So dark. It's so dark, it's really I wish.

1158
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: You had come back because we were all there. I

1159
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: guess how long did it go?

1160
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: But whatever it was, Yeah, there was another thing where

1161
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: that was a miracle show where you like worked for

1162
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: more than ten minutes. You know, they went for several

1163
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 3: months writing the show rather than like write thirteen episode

1164
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: in a week. Thirteen episodes in a week, right, I

1165
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 3: think it was like a normal schedule.

1166
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: I think it was a normal schedule, and thirteen seemed

1167
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: like short then oh right, anyway.

1168
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it did seem short then, and now it's like, well,

1169
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: seven episodes you're lucky if you get eight Yeah, right, right,

1170
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: an entire sitcom in eight episodes.

1171
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but why why? But I want to also

1172
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: clarify what I meant. I just meant about that being

1173
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: the Olympics or whatever. I meant like, of course you

1174
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: would have that job. That's a good fit. And also

1175
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: you were just being grateful, so I'm doing nice.

1176
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very nice. But it did the stakes seemed

1177
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: incredibly high because rarely do you work with people where

1178
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: you've seen their names, you know, it's just like, yeah,

1179
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: it's a very rare thing. So initially that was such

1180
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: an intimidating place because everyone that was like at the

1181
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 3: absolute top of their game.

1182
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: I never went to the writer's room for mostly that reason.

1183
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: I was like, this is an intimidating place to be.

1184
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: And also they made all those jokes about actors coming

1185
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: into the writer's room on thirty Rock.

1186
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.

1187
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be fodder. So I'm not falling

1188
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: into your trap. You made jokes about this in your show.

1189
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: No, it was just it is.

1190
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so those it does feel like the Olympics.

1191
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: All that to say, Oh I wish that show was

1192
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: still going whatever what are you going to do?

1193
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know what you're going to do.

1194
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: And I keep thinking, oh maybe maybe every show now

1195
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: seems to come back, so maybe another twenty years we'll

1196
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: have a reunion.

1197
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, of reunion. That's like ten season Harry b. Yeah,

1198
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: the ten season reunion. Yeah, I don't know.

1199
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: It goes and goes.

1200
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: Well.

1201
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: I have my garbage can. I'll be able to throw

1202
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: whatever I want in here. It's very tasteful. I think

1203
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: we should play a game. Okay, I'm going to play

1204
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: a game called Gift or a Curse, but I need

1205
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: a number between one and ten from you four. Okay.

1206
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our

1207
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote, do

1208
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: whatever you want on the microphone. I'll be right back. Okay.

1209
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to promote a show that isn't out yet,

1210
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: so you have to remember it. It's called Elephant and

1211
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: Piggy and it's an animated show and I am the

1212
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: voice of Piggy. By the way, not to like out

1213
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: my husband, but literally two days ago he's like, which

1214
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: voice are you? And I was like, I posted about

1215
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: this on Instagram. It says Ellie Kemper is piggy, so

1216
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: I repeated that information to him and Titus, our old

1217
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: friend is voicing elephant. So it's a based on a

1218
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: book series by the Great Moe Williams. And that show

1219
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: that I've spent five minutes talking about just now will

1220
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: come out at some point where on Paramount plus Paramount plus, Okay,

1221
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, no, I know, I know, but

1222
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I just I suddenly thought, is

1223
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: it paramount plus or just paramount?

1224
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: Right? I just.

1225
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: Uh?

1226
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: Do you ever watch Couple's Therapy?

1227
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: No?

1228
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: That's is that a recommend incredible show? You have to

1229
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: watch me?

1230
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: Why don't I watch it?

1231
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: If you like it, you won't stop. I mean you'll

1232
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: start and you'll just blow through the entire thing.

1233
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to embarrass myself. When did it come?

1234
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: It's like in the last five to six years. It's

1235
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: this therapist orna incredible person, and her advisor Virginia.

1236
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: Who I love, and it's just is this reality?

1237
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: This is a reality show. It's more like documentary reality.

1238
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: And she just meets with Cup and you see their

1239
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: couple's therapy and it's so fascinating. Oh and also very calming.

1240
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: For the most part because of the like mood, or

1241
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: because it's reassuring.

1242
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: The mood Orna is such a lovely presence, and it's

1243
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: also reassuring. Sometimes you're watching these couples and you're like, well,

1244
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: at least that's not my relationship. You see some of

1245
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: the relationships people are Any're like, that's an unsolvable problem.

1246
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: It's yes, and you're trapped with the worst person on

1247
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: the life. So it's nice to watch as a couple

1248
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: and you think you'll be so grateful for your partner

1249
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: because just wait, they don't.

1250
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: Do that thing. Yeah, I can't wait. That's going to

1251
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: be a great show.

1252
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: That's great. Of course I have nothing to watch on TV.

1253
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: And then the new season that came out and I

1254
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: watched all of it in less than twenty four hours,

1255
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: and now I'm back to be mad at TV. It's

1256
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: a tough cycle. It is that.

1257
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 2: That's really hard.

1258
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: The pit. Yeah, the pit, I'm too. I need to

1259
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: get over it.

1260
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 2: No, you don't.

1261
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: But I like to eat something while I'm watching TV, and.

1262
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: I was that's for the nine hundredth episode. I'm going

1263
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: to bring you snacks because that was my other thing

1264
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: I was. I love eating snacks. What kind of snacks,

1265
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: animal crackers, teddyms like.

1266
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: Little things that you haven't had a teddy Gram in

1267
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: a while?

1268
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: Of course, why would you. You're a grown man.

1269
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: You'd be surprised.

1270
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: The things I do is Yeah, yeah, they're They're delightful.

1271
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: It's just because they're bright size. Right.

1272
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite Teddygram flavor?

1273
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: Honey?

1274
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh, Honey's a good one.

1275
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: Honey's just it feels classic, right, it's kind of.

1276
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: The original, I think so. Yeah, and then they kind

1277
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: of got crazy. I like a chocolate chip one. I

1278
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: don't know if those are still on the.

1279
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: Market, are in the market. They taste funny though they

1280
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: don't know what's in them.

1281
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's like that certainly isn't chocolate. You don't

1282
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: think sort of dirt or pepple they put in here.

1283
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: I've got to maybe I'll circle back to see if

1284
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: I like those anymore.

1285
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may as well.

1286
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: So you're a snack person while you're watching TV.

1287
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: Gosh, I should have brought the snacks. Yeah, yes I am.

1288
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: It's the reason I watch TV.

1289
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: Of course.

1290
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: So you can't do that with the pit I muscle through.

1291
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: I do.

1292
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't look I mean they go out of their

1293
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: way I think sometimes.

1294
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: To be grossy. Right, that's not fair. No, no, no, no.

1295
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: They should give like a squeamish warning.

1296
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be the screen should flash. There should

1297
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 3: be like a siren that plays something gross is going

1298
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: to happen.

1299
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: I think that was just like wait, like we're about

1300
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: to do that, but it's yeah, there's not What can

1301
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: you watch the snacks?

1302
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: Well, they come back, they come back. There's there's plenty

1303
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: of television shows you could. I think you could eat

1304
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: popcorn while watching the pit though. I think you want

1305
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 3: to dry snack while you're watching that because there are

1306
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: a lot of wet, gross things that happen.

1307
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: I know, but I don't eat wet snacks, do you.

1308
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't exclusively wet snacks. What are they called gushers?

1309
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: Oh, gushers. We've had gushers on this podcast. They were

1310
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: discussed have you had one recent that should be expelled

1311
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: from the market. We've like, we've moved on from that flavor.

1312
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: They were revolting.

1313
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: Everything about it is feels toxic.

1314
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: Extually, the flavor is absolutely vile. The name is it's

1315
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: tough to get over.

1316
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: Everything is. But clearly people buy them.

1317
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: I mean there's demands or a company has just forgotten

1318
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: that they make. They just keep creaking because they're true,

1319
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what parent is buying their I think

1320
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 3: there was a period when you're like, oh, this is

1321
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: a fruit snack. I put it in totally the lunch

1322
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: for school or whatever. But now we know it's probably

1323
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: worse than candy.

1324
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: I think with so many of those snacks, I think

1325
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: that's the case. Right, But popcorn feels safe, well, the kernels.

1326
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: But I just mean, for we find out you're just

1327
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: eating kernels unpopped like a bird.

1328
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: I like snacks, like eating kernels.

1329
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: Your floor is filthy, every belly.

1330
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: I like the pit.

1331
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to play Gift to a Curse. I'm

1332
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: gonna put this on the ground because just so we

1333
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: have full view of my laptop.

1334
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: For some.

1335
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know why I did that. Now I'm upset

1336
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: with myself. Oh, We're going to play a game called

1337
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: Gift to a Curse. I'm going to name three things.

1338
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: You will tell me if there are a gift or

1339
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if

1340
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 3: you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. First,

1341
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 3: This is from one of our Patreon listeners, Sarah. Gift

1342
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 3: or a curse when a family member or friend gives

1343
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: an honest review of your cooking.

1344
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure a curse because, oh my gosh,

1345
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: that's a curse because you took time to make something.

1346
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Sorry. I have a very personal example. Yeah,

1347
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: I cook for my kids, and I'm not a good

1348
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: cook or a great cook, but I can put together

1349
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: food and I follow the recipe and it's fine, and

1350
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: they do give me honest reviews and nothing. I've said

1351
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: this a few times. I feel like nothing makes me angrier,

1352
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: but this makes me very hurt and annoyed that I

1353
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: spent time preparing food that is then criticized as not

1354
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 2: being tasty. So I think it's a curse. It makes

1355
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: everyone mad. I think it's I'm sorry, what was her name, Sarah?

1356
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: I think, Sarah, that it is a curse. And by

1357
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: the way, even if it were an adult family member

1358
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: saying I think this could have you know, more salt,

1359
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: I would say I would take that as a I

1360
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: think it's a curse.

1361
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: Oh, Ellie, you're wrong. Oh that's a gift. You're running from.

1362
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: Positive feedback you're running from your critics. I think that

1363
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: you are afraid of getting better. I think that ultimately

1364
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: you need to put your ego aside and say, look,

1365
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: I've nothing but bad meals for my children. They were right.

1366
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm torturing these poor children, and instead of taking their

1367
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: feedback and improving, I'm the martyr. You're always the martyr. Yeah,

1368
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: and I think that you've got to rethink that.

1369
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: I am not mad at that. I am listening to

1370
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 2: what you're saying.

1371
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: Okay, you're hearing me.

1372
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm hearing you, and I think there's something that can

1373
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: be extracted.

1374
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: People love to hear honest feedback about their cooking. Okay,

1375
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: you spend hours of your day putting together the meal

1376
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: and someone says, well, this would have been better with nuts. Yeah,

1377
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: and you say thank you, thank you for saying that,

1378
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: thank you. Okay, Well, we've gotten one wrong so far.

1379
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: Let's see zero zero zero, trying to be nice by

1380
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: saying you've gotten one wrong. Okay. The second one is

1381
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: from a listener named Lucy. Let's say gift or a

1382
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 3: curse concert encurse.

1383
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh.

1384
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: I think that's well, it depends. Okay, I'm going to

1385
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: say that's a gift. I think it's a gift because

1386
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: if you're at the concert, you're clearly a fan, and

1387
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: what could be nicer than the performer giving you some

1388
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: extra I guess love, some extra attention, some extra songs,

1389
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: which some extra art, which is what you came there

1390
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: to enjoy. Again, it's hard because it's like the performer

1391
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: want to do an encore. Of course they love attention,

1392
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: so it is a gift, correct.

1393
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: I think they're a gift. I think that they've gotten

1394
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, people are obvious, like it's

1395
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 3: too much. I hate sending her clapping and waiting for

1396
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 3: them to come back on. I think you have to

1397
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: reframe this in your mind. There are two good things

1398
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: about a concert encore. First of all, if you aren't

1399
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: totally exhausted by the end and don't want to go

1400
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 3: home desperately, little extra music for you to listen to.

1401
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: If you do want to leave now, you can get

1402
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: out before everybody else gets out. You get to your

1403
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: car first. This is something people forget about.

1404
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

1405
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,959
Speaker 3: If you don't want it, just leave and you seem

1406
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 3: kind of cool, like everyone watches you leave like, well,

1407
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: I guess they're just better than this.

1408
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1409
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: It seems like they have standards. Yeah, and you're on

1410
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 3: your way to your car. You get out sooner. So

1411
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: it's you just have to choose what you want there.

1412
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: Okay. As you have done many times in this conversation,

1413
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: you've offered some insight that I didn't have. You have

1414
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: the option to leave.

1415
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: You have the option to leave. If that's my second book, Yes,

1416
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 3: you have the option to leave.

1417
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: Tell them you have the option to leave that. But

1418
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: that is either you stay for the encore, enjoy it,

1419
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: or you leave. I like that a lot. A lot

1420
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 2: of people have been saying there's too much clapping.

1421
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: I really do think that people have a problem with

1422
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 3: encorese Sometimes I think they're like, oh, I have to

1423
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: stand here and wait for them to come back on stage.

1424
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: I understand the little the little show of it of

1425
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: like we know you're coming back. We probably could cut that,

1426
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: we could add to that element, but then there it's

1427
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: part of the framework of the thing. If there's not

1428
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: the phony encore thing, then we don't know if it's

1429
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: really the ends, and then people become confused. Maybe the

1430
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: band could just say that's the end of the set.

1431
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 3: Now we're going to play two more songs, yes, and

1432
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: and then everyone gets to go home. Let's set some

1433
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: boundaries and the.

1434
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: People know what they're That would be fine with me. Yes,

1435
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 2: the fake whatever suspense, it is not necessary.

1436
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: And it can start to be a little sad where

1437
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: it's like people aren't clapping that much.

1438
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: How hard is that?

1439
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: And there's just the expectation that they're coming out and

1440
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: it's like, well, then the concept of encore has kind

1441
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: of been lost. But you've gotten one right.

1442
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: So far, so I'm going to focus on one.

1443
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: Be very careful on this next one. This is from

1444
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: a listener named Douglas. Gift or a curse? Oh, this

1445
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 3: is another concert one actually when the band makes the

1446
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 3: audience sing the chorus of a song.

1447
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I think that's a gift, Douglas, because and

1448
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm really the thinking about the Billy Joel documentary I

1449
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: saw earlier this year, and when everybody would sing Piano

1450
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 2: Man together, and I just that's the only way I

1451
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: would have known that people sometimes sing piano Man together

1452
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: by watching the Billy Joel documentary. I think it is okay.

1453
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 2: I think you and I might find it annoying just

1454
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: because what is it not everyone's on key, and it's

1455
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: it's something about it is annoying, but ultimately it's a

1456
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: gift because it's shared humanity and we all how nice

1457
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: that we By the way, I'm not talking about the

1458
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: Eras tour.

1459
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 3: I think that is a whole what's happening there.

1460
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: I just feel like I didn't attend one. But I

1461
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: think that's its own category. She doesn't a word, she

1462
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: did a big reveal, she just stands. Yeah, she puts

1463
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: a GHOne out to the crowd for three hours. They're like,

1464
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: it was an amazing, groundbreaking tour. But I do think that.

1465
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 2: I think everyone sings the whole fat time and it's joyful.

1466
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: But where am I? I'm all over the map with this.

1467
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: I think it's ultimately a gift people sharing in something joyful.

1468
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 3: Wrong, Oh, come on, wrong, wrong, wrong, This is something

1469
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 3: that's a curse people. The band asking the audience to

1470
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 3: sing along is such a scam. I'm not here to

1471
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: not hear you sing. I'm not here And it's the chorus,

1472
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 3: the best part. And now suddenly a bunch of annoying

1473
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: strangers is singing the song around me. Yeah, I'm not participating.

1474
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: I'm not going to participate. So I'm standing there. What

1475
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: am I supposed to do in this moment? Right other

1476
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: than just be furious that I've been ripped off. This

1477
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 3: band has my money and they're not doing they're not

1478
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: putting in the work.

1479
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: That's right, yeap, I completely see it that way.

1480
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: Well, you got one out of three.

1481
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 2: That's a third. That's a third, but it's not zero.

1482
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: It's not zero, and we are so happy for that.

1483
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: I am.

1484
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: I am blessed. I'm too.

1485
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: Too.

1486
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: What is it too blessed to be stressed?

1487
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 3: To be stress? Yeah? Ellis? Do you have a gift

1488
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 3: a curse?

1489
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: Oh?

1490
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: I can Oh, Ellis has a gift a curse where

1491
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 3: they're going to give us a thing and we both

1492
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 3: have to speak to it, and then Ellis, we'll have

1493
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 3: an answer. I don't know if it'll be right or wrong.

1494
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: I'll decide it sounds right, Ellis, does that sound right

1495
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 3: to you?

1496
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

1497
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 3: Yes?

1498
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 4: Okay, this is going to be a little bit of

1499
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: a weird one, but we're going to try it. Okay,

1500
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 4: When something funny happens in a movie and your friend

1501
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 4: wants to make eye contact.

1502
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: With you as they laugh, Oh, do you want to

1503
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: speak to this first?

1504
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: To me, it's obvious what it was. It is a

1505
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: curse straight from hell because you just are having a

1506
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: good time. Just make eye contact. It's like in you mean,

1507
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a curse. Straight up.

1508
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 3: I agree. I think that's a curse. I've had it

1509
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: happened to me before, very rarely. But you feel their

1510
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: eyes and you're like, you can just hear me laughing,

1511
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: don't You don't need more confirmation? What like? Is this

1512
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 3: a secret between us? Now? I understand why.

1513
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: We're Is it from a movie or something you're watching?

1514
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're sitting there with this has never happened to

1515
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: you with a friend where something funny is happening and

1516
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: they're almost like confirming with you through eye contact. That's right,

1517
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: what you're talking about elis right? Correct?

1518
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: Yes?

1519
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: Oh hell oh, I've had apparently enough that I've, like you,

1520
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,919
Speaker 3: developed an opinion that can you imagine?

1521
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: No, sometimes if I hear someone laughing, I'll look over

1522
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: to make sure they're okay, that they're not you know,

1523
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: choking or whatever.

1524
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 3: I never Oh, horrible, what do you do? I feel

1525
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 3: uncomfortable and then I try to like and then I

1526
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: really don't turn my head at all. Towards them, I

1527
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 3: like almost turn slightly to another direction just so that

1528
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 3: can't happen again.

1529
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: Just enjoy it.

1530
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what like what do you need me

1531
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 3: to validate?

1532
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 2: That's I that requires analysis?

1533
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: Or is that a thing where it's like, Oh, I

1534
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: gave you a little treat by showing you this funny thing.

1535
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: Look at me?

1536
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 2: Oh the worst you mean if the person has shown

1537
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: you right like, ah, so you like, don't get you're

1538
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 2: it's all. It's awful. So much pressure.

1539
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 3: We have way too much pressure. Yeah, Oh, kill the mood.

1540
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: Kill the mood.

1541
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 4: And uh.

1542
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: If someone is showing you, oh, did you see this

1543
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: video and then you watch it while they watch you, awful.

1544
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: But if it's something you've both stumbled them upon, like

1545
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 2: independent or whatever, like just my chance, and then you're looking.

1546
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 3: You're sharing it, and you're both aware that it's funny,

1547
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: but you don't have to confirm it. No, no, no, no,

1548
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: And no one should ever show another person in public

1549
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: a funny video. Don't do that to anyone in your life.

1550
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: Send it to them and let them do that in private.

1551
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: Don't make me perform for your because you can.

1552
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: And it's usually if it's somebody you know, well, they

1553
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: know you're fake laughing. It's all. It's just a terrible,

1554
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: terrible thing that happens.

1555
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: Evil Ellis, Did we get the answer correct?

1556
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 4: I tried not to lead too much, but I just

1557
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 4: needed a moment to complain about it, because it's of

1558
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 4: course it's a curse.

1559
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: Ok.

1560
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 3: Good, it is so awful.

1561
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 4: I'm laughing at the screen.

1562
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 3: Why do I Why is this?

1563
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: Now?

1564
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 4: I'm performing for you like I'm laughing with you as No,

1565
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 4: we're watching a thing together.

1566
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1567
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 4: This is it's bizarre behavior. And now the worst thing

1568
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: is that I had a friend who did this so

1569
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: much with me. I've started to do it with other

1570
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: people and I catch myself because it's so obnoxious.

1571
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh so that is remarkable that your friend's behavior, yeah,

1572
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: transferred onto you, and now you are following doing the

1573
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: thing you hate. I'm so sorry.

1574
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 3: Now. There is something I in the same category that

1575
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: I think you should do is when you've prepared food

1576
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 3: for someone, when they take a bite, lock eyes with them,

1577
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 3: maintain eye contact for that first bite, just follow them

1578
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 3: through the whole bite. I hate it.

1579
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 2: I hate eye contact.

1580
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it's almost just entirely unnecessary.

1581
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: It really is. It's so bad.

1582
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: Well we all got the answer right on that one.

1583
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 3: That's very nice.

1584
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: Fee.

1585
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. People

1586
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 3: are writing into I said, no gives it gmail dot

1587
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 3: com just kind of in general begging for answers. We

1588
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 3: hope me answer a question. All right, this is Hello Bridger.

1589
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: They don't say anything.

1590
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: To you, Ali, and that's fine.

1591
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: Cruel. This says, I'm joking. Wait, I'm joking about her

1592
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: being my neurology. This is very confusing. Okay, I am

1593
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 3: joking about her being my neurologist. But my girlfriend is

1594
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 3: a neurologist. Okay, so let's just unpack this really quickly.

1595
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 3: So we think that the girlfriend's actually a neurologist. But

1596
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 3: then the partner is like, you're my neurologist because you

1597
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 3: deal with my brain. Is that what the tri question?

1598
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: We're on or off to a bad story?

1599
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: We did?

1600
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 3: Hold on. I feel like I've We're like, we gotta

1601
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: figure this out quick. This is I don't think unless

1602
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: part of it, because this is Hella Bridger, then we

1603
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: get into it. Unless I've been hacked Russian interference in

1604
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 3: my email. No, this is how it starts so let's

1605
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 3: just assume girlfriend is a board certified neurologist. Partner is like, a,

1606
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 3: you're my neurologist too, because I'm so my brain's crazy

1607
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 3: and this is so.

1608
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: Much better that what does the text I want to

1609
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm a text? Uh? What is it if somebody believes

1610
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: the constitution? Oh? Is that a text based?

1611
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 3: Do you want me to read this? Let me read

1612
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 3: this full sentence to you, because that's not the full sentence.

1613
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: Even I'm joking about her being my neurologist, but my

1614
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,919
Speaker 3: girlfriend is a neurologist, and I would like to propose.

1615
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 3: So there there's the full sentence.

1616
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm joking about her being my neurologist.

1617
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: But she is a neurologist. This whatever information has been

1618
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: given to.

1619
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,520
Speaker 2: Us is it's so, how is he with a neurologist?

1620
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: Well, and by the way, she women can be neurologists

1621
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: and lesbians, ellie and bad at writing emails.

1622
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: Sorry, women can do anything, My bad.

1623
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 3: We've just proven they can have it all.

1624
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 2: I think what she's saying is way simpler than what

1625
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: you were saying. All of a sudden, you're like, well,

1626
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: she's my neurologist, and she she because she deals with

1627
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: my brain.

1628
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: What do you think it is?

1629
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 2: I think she's saying, hey, baby, you're mine. Now you're

1630
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: you're my neurologist, Like you're you're my sweetheart, like you're sorry,

1631
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: you're my Lloyd.

1632
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 3: It's a term of endearment.

1633
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: I think it's like like, oh, like, oh, you're my writer,

1634
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: like you're like my fireman. Like it's just you're saying

1635
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: putting my in front of the person's job.

1636
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm saying.

1637
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 2: It is like like, I'm fisher.

1638
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 3: What you said? Oh no, did you think a fisherman.

1639
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm glad fisherman. Uh fisherman fishermen? Uh oh yeah, I

1640
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: don't know what I was official?

1641
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe official.

1642
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: Okay, so this person has created a problem for us

1643
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 3: that is nearly unsolvable already, and we're not even getting

1644
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 3: into the email.

1645
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, let's well put that aside. We may

1646
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: have to revisit and now, just again, can you read

1647
01:19:59,320 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: it moment time.

1648
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm joking about her being my neurologist, But my girlfriend

1649
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: is a neurologist, and I would like to propose continuing.

1650
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 3: I think proposals are basically the gift of a curated

1651
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 3: romantic experience unique to the proposal recipient. My question is,

1652
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 3: how can I do something more original than going to dinner?

1653
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 3: A little about her very feminine, loves very fancy slash

1654
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: elegant things. Enjoys fine dining and food experiences, but I

1655
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 3: know she would not want a proposal at dinner. She's

1656
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: very smart, loves to travel, enjoys the outdoors but not camping.

1657
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: Loves horror movies and graphic novels. Hoping for your help,

1658
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: we've gotten to the end of the email. That's Kristen.

1659
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 3: Kristen is looking to propose to what could possibly be

1660
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: a neurologist, but not her. Neurologist, not hers, but in

1661
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: a very funny way. Yes, yes, not joking, Kristin. I'm sorry,

1662
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: but you should have been We should we should have

1663
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 3: had a call about this, Kristen.

1664
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 2: CHRISTI I feel confident that there's that what you're saying

1665
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: makes sense, But I don't understand.

1666
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: What you mean. Right. We're not in on your cute

1667
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: little joke, but we but we have the.

1668
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: Facts, which is that your girlfriend is a neurologist and

1669
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: you want to propose to her.

1670
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations for so long, so exciting.

1671
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 2: Second of all, what are your ideas?

1672
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,879
Speaker 3: Okay, well, we've got all these different details. She's very feminine.

1673
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: She doesn't want to go out to dinner.

1674
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: She although she likes fine dining, she loves fine dining,

1675
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: but she likes but not at a restaurant.

1676
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 3: Will not be proposed to or for dinner.

1677
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: So do you think that means that she doesn't want

1678
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: people around, or like she wants a private proposal, or.

1679
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that it's more just like she thinks

1680
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: that that's kind of cliche. Don't take me to a

1681
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: fancy restaurant and hide it in the dessert. I've seen

1682
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 3: it before.

1683
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So she likes the outdoors, but she doesn't

1684
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: like camping, camping.

1685
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: She hates camping. She loves horror movies and graphic novels.

1686
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 3: So how do we have an original proposal? And proposals

1687
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: seem to be very high stakes at this point, they're

1688
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 3: almost like proposals. They're you know, they're people are doing

1689
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: all sorts of things for these Yes, that's right, and

1690
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: whatever happened to will you marry me? I don't know.

1691
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm seeing horror movies. I'm thinking how many proposals have

1692
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 3: been terrifying?

1693
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

1694
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: How do we turn this into a terrifying situation for

1695
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 3: this neurologist where she thinks her life is in danger?

1696
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 3: She dragged through just this horrible, scary experience that ends

1697
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: in I'm getting married?

1698
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: Does she? Where are they? Where do they live?

1699
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 3: Great questions? Okay, all these details details galore, couldn't tell

1700
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 3: us where they live?

1701
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: I was the first thing that comes to my mind,

1702
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 2: is is zi a haunted house situation they could go through?

1703
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. That might not be scary enough, right,

1704
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: I think there are some legitimately terrifying not to bring

1705
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: up New York here and then the trash can, but

1706
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: I do think there's some legitimately I'm sure in it. Well,

1707
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't know where they're.

1708
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 3: From, right, But they love to travel, so they can

1709
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 3: go anywhere. They could travel to a scary place, to

1710
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: a scary place.

1711
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe it just needs to be a legitimately

1712
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 2: scary place, haunted house aside, just a scary place.

1713
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 3: Cornfield, Yes, the middle of the ocean at night. What

1714
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 3: else is scary?

1715
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: The middle of the ocean at night?

1716
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: A Cornfield's abandoned warehouse.

1717
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 2: Abandoned warehouse, a cave, oh, a cave, deep in a cave.

1718
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: She likes the outdoors, right, she doesn't like camp.

1719
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: Interesting combination of the outdoors and horror cave in Cornfield.

1720
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, sure. Uh so maybe you kind of

1721
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 3: take her into one of these outdoors.

1722
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 2: Oh well, I know that you don't like the Sorry,

1723
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: she doesn't like cliches. But if she does like fine dining,

1724
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: could you at least could it be an organ that sorry,

1725
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: something that looks like an organ but it is actually

1726
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 2: you know, bef you know, fishermen, fishermen, that's actually a fisherman.

1727
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: But that you turns out to be good food.

1728
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, just a nice setting that maybe the dinner

1729
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 3: goes wrong, something scary happen.

1730
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 2: Not where I was going with it, but I like

1731
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:22,440
Speaker 2: that idea.

1732
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 3: And now I'm thinking about this. You know, this would

1733
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: be an extreme case. But the scariest movie I've ever

1734
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 3: seen is Zodiac. Yeah, I believe you, And there's a

1735
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 3: scary picnic scene in the movie. If you were to

1736
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: kind of redo the Zodiac picnic scene, but then the

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 3: Zodiac the you know, the hired actor you've hired to

1738
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: be Zodiac killer actually ends up having the ring terrifying

1739
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 3: you think your lives are over, but no, they're just

1740
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 3: about to begin. That's how romantic could it possibly?

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01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: I think I think that combines horror, romance, picnics, picnic

1742
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: outside outside, is it sorry? Is it picnic at night?

1743
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 3: No? This is again that if it's a tough scene

1744
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,440
Speaker 3: to watch, daylight.

1745
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 2: Scarier, way scarier, way scarier.

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01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 3: And that's why he was the Zodiac and nobody else

1747
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 3: could be. Uh huh, he was scary.

1748
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: Why did you watch that movie? But you can't you

1749
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: can't watch the Pit? Well, I don't know what I

1750
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: haven't seen Zodiac.

1751
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 3: Zodiac is the Pit is just so much close up

1752
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 3: on limbs and yeah, gore. Yeah, there's not really that

1753
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: much gore in Zodiac.

1754
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: There is no.

1755
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: It's more it's like, you do see some horrible things happen,

1756
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: but it's like not bloody, right, I mean, it's so

1757
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 3: it's crazy how scary that movie is considering what you

1758
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 3: actually like, You really don't. I'm trying to think of

1759
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 3: how much blood you actually see.

1760
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: No, it's is it psychological?

1761
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: But you're watching this man, You're watching some people get murdered.

1762
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: It's I don't know why you watched that, but that's

1763
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: oh it's so good. I guess I guess I should.

1764
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: It's just you've described yourself as fragile.

1765
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: I like horror movies, and Zodi's not really a horror movie.

1766
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: It's right.

1767
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 3: True, I mean, it's a true.

1768
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: Story, but I like the you're getting from that for

1769
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: this proposal, right.

1770
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 3: Put your lives in danger is what I'm trying to say.

1771
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Ultimately, Now, will Kristen Kristen will know well, Kristen know

1772
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 2: that they're safe or.

1773
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: No, yes Kristen, Well that's up to Kristen. If Kristen

1774
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 3: wants to put their lives in genuine danger, that's up

1775
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 3: to Christen. We know that Kristen can get a little

1776
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: wild and things they do writing emails, et cetera. So

1777
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 3: maybe this is the next step writing a strange first

1778
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: opening sentence to an email, then hiring someone who don't

1779
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 3: trust to act like they're going to kill you and

1780
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 3: see what happens. Well, I think we answered the question, Kristen,

1781
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 3: and we've got two people to fall even more in

1782
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: love with each other.

1783
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: Happy trails. Congratulations you guys, Well.

1784
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 3: We answered the question perfectly. I've got a new garbage can. Yeah,

1785
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: what more can I ask for?

1786
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 4: Three?

1787
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Hundred and one. That's what you can ask for.

1788
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: We'll try to do at least one more episode here,

1789
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 3: uh hopefully hopefully more than maybe two or three more.

1790
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: I don't know how much energy do you do one

1791
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: podcast as another Mel Robbins, one podcast at a time.

1792
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Just focus on the one you're in. You're going to

1793
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: be at six hundred in no time, and I'm going

1794
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: to be right next to you.

1795
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 3: You're going to be here and you're bringing don't I

1796
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 3: hope you already? Because there are two different things.

1797
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Different things, and I know which one it's going to be,

1798
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: so you even if you remember one, you won't know

1799
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: if that's what it's.

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 3: This is an incredible thing. We've got to get through

1801
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: these episodes quick. We're going to start doing three a day.

1802
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: You just have to have how many have you a

1803
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 2: repeat guest? We have.

1804
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: A few. If somebody's a repeat guest, they've got to

1805
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 3: be a good person.

1806
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of people.

1807
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 3: That's a lot of yeah, truly, just it's three hundred people.

1808
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: You know, it's a finding people.

1809
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: Finding people is finding people.

1810
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: You don't see people that often. There aren't many of

1811
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 3: them left.

1812
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: There are divine. Yeah, it's such a huge accomplishment to

1813
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: have reached three hundred.

1814
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you, and thank you for being here. I'm

1815
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: so glad you could be here on this one.

1816
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me and in Los Angeles too.

1817
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 3: We're really unbelievable.

1818
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

1819
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 3: The city is better off having Elie Camper, oh both

1820
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 3: of us. Oh maybe now it's like back to neutral

1821
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 3: or something.

1822
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 2: Very kind of you.

1823
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over this episode. At least, what

1824
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 3: if that was the end of the podcast as we

1825
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 3: know it? Uh no, this is the podcast is coming

1826
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 3: to a close. I'm so glad we could do three

1827
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 3: hundred episodes together, and I assume you've listened to every

1828
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 3: single one of them. If you are just joining us today,

1829
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure this is just impossible to tell how what's

1830
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: going on, and it require so much context. You probably

1831
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 3: had a horrible experience, and I'm sorry you should have

1832
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 3: started at number one. That's how podcasts work. But thank

1833
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 3: you for being here, and we'll just continue to move

1834
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 3: into the future. I love you, goodbye, I said No

1835
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is

1836
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 3: Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday.

1837
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 3: The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and

1838
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 3: we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You

1839
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 3: must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts,

1840
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 3: that's where you're going to see pictures of all these

1841
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 3: wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see

1842
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: the gifts? I invit?

1843
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're

1844
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty.

1845
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: And I said, no, goo, that's your own presences, presents enough.

1846
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

1847
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: dare to surbey me?