1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into a President's Day edition of 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Texans All Access John Harris alongside the voice of the Texans, 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermier. Mark. Good evening, my friend, how are you. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: How's your weekend? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Good evening, Johnny. You know, it's so good to uh. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: I had a little bit of extra time this weekend, 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: which was nice, and I know you did too. It 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: feels really weird to not have football. I know it's 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: been several weeks now since the Texans have played, but 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: it's sort of this sort of coming down process off 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: the magical season of twenty twenty three and you're still 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: the AFC and NFC championship games. Then you had Senior Bowl. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean you were at the Senior Bowl, so that's 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: great for you and that fills your cup in a 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: large degree. Then we had the Super Bowl. Okay, good, good, 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: But it's still not the same. And now here we 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: are in it's not the desert, it's the off season. 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: The hot stove is going to be cooking this year. 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: My mind keeps racing with Texans questions. Who's going to 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: be back on the team. You have over a thirty 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: free agency have to deal with what's the draft going 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: to be like, we're gonna be hot and heavy in 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: the combine next week. So we're sort of in this 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: transitional mode. I know you didn't answer this long answer, 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: but that's how I'm doing. 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: No, that's well, I'm glad you broughrowed that up because 27 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: we've kind of danced around certain things. But today we 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: are going to give you. I'm gonna give you some 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: either ors, and a lot of them have to do 30 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: with well, constructing the Texans for twenty twenty four and 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: beyond in some cases and in some cases, we're going 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: to try and make a couple other teams in the 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: AFC South a little bit worse. So we're gonna go 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: about doing that. 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Now. 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: There are a lot of decisions that go into rebuilding 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: this team, I should say rebuilding reconstructing this team, because 38 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is different than twenty twenty three and 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, it will be different than twenty twenty five, 40 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We all know that 41 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about that for a lot. There will be 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: now a core in place, which is kind of nice. 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I think we have found that core. Now it's building 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: around who else gets added to that? And that I 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: think is what the gender of either or is. And 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll get to a second. So keep in mind, the 47 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: new league year starts March fifth. Now, I looked up 48 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: the date. March fifth is, yeah, Tuesday, I believe that's right. 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: If my calendar from Football Operations is correct, then prior 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: to four o'clock New York time deadline for clubs yesday, 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: franchise Oh check out, my bad, my bad, the two 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: day negotiating period. I knew it was early. Two day 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: andgotiating period is March eleventh through the thirteenth, So that's 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: gonna be Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Oh sorry, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: after the combine. I think it's the second week after 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the combine. So you've got a little bit of time 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: after the combine to come back and the new league 58 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: year starts. That's what legal tampering can start. So you've 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: got that three day run. Now, March fifth has to 60 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: do with designating franchise or transition players. Yes, don't. I 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: don't know if the Texans will do that. What's your 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: gouta tell you on that? Think they will have anybody 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: franchise I don't feel like that's the that's gonna happen 64 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: this year. 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: Now with the Texans, I don't think they will. You know, 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: there's always a chance of JG or somebody like that. 67 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm very curious about what happens to Nico, who would 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: be eligible for that next year. Yeah, but I wouldn't 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: expect it. 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: You never know, though. 71 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: See, we don't know how they're going to handle things. 72 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: We don't know how Nick is going to handle things 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: in this environment with a contender. You know, Nick's been 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: dealing with a total let's build it up from scratch, 75 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: if you will, situation for a couple of years, and 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: then into last year, and now he's dealing with a contender, 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: and maybe last year it feels like they thought they 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: had something that was a lot more powerful and productive 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: than many outsiders thought. But you get my drift as 80 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: far as going into twenty four goes yep. 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely Okay, So keep those dates in mind. March fifth, 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: franchise or transition players. That deadlines at three o'clock local 83 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: time March eleven. That starts the two day negotiating period 84 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: for unrestricted free agents. That's when deals start getting agreed to. 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Now at the combine where there'll be some discussion. Sure, 86 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: there always is, but legal tampering March eleven, So keep 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: that in mind as I ask these questions of Mark 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: vander Meers. Time for either or, So a lot of 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: talking to Houston about a running back. Mark, Now, I'm 90 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna bring you know, players that 91 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: are on the Texans into this. We can kind of 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: talk it through what the Texas might do with them, 93 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: and singletary and current free agents, et cetera. We started 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: running back either or would you either sign Derrick Henry 95 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: to a two year, eighteen million dollars deal or Sakuon 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Barkley for three years at thirty two million. Derrick Henry 97 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: at nine million ap y Barkley would be over ten. 98 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: So you get an extra year Barkley, but you pay 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: him more, get two years of Henry for both of them. 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: Henry would have it, You're guaranteed Barkley's first two years 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: would be guaranteed. Either Derrick Henry to eighteen or Saquon 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Barkley three for thirty two. 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. 104 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: So you're basically asking me if I want Henry or Barkley, right, Yeah, And. 105 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: This is a tough choice. 106 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: A lot of people are thinking, well, you get just 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: got to automatically go for Derrick Henry. I think Barkley 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: could be really interesting in this offense Bobby Slowik with 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: the different things he can do. I feel like the 110 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 3: versatility is there. I'm not saying Henry isn't versatile, but Johnny, 111 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: as I think about it, I just have so many 112 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: memories of Henry destroying people, except for the games against 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: the Texans this year, that. 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: I think I got to go for Derrick Henry. 115 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: And I know he hasn't always been perfectly healthy, but 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: I think the health risk of Barkley is greater than 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: it is for Derrick Henry. I just look at it 118 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: that way, and I think the presence of Derrick Henry. 119 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: Look even when the Texans are stopping Derrick Henry, that 120 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: opens things up for other players. The Titans just couldn't 121 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: take advantage of that this year with the personnel they 122 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: had with CJ. 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Stroud. 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: If Derek Henry is inhaling the entire defense on a carry, 125 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: well guess who can capitalize on that? Or it would 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: be carry with play action possibilities. So my answer is 127 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: Derek Henry for two years and I'll take it from there. 128 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: Johnny, if you do sign Henry, would you think about 129 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: bringing back Motor. 130 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely would. I definitely would. 131 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: But I think at that point the money becomes a 132 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: little more cumbersome because you know, here's how I look 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: at the running backs. 134 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: If we're in a scramble. We're in a golf tournament. 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: It's a scramble and we're playing with four guys and 136 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: we all hit it on the green, what do you say, choices? 137 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: We've got choices with the running backs here. You've got choices. 138 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: You could resign Motor. You've got the money to do that. 139 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: You've got enough money to go for it, Derek Henry 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: or Sakuon Barkley or Josh Jacobs. 141 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: You also have a draft capital. 142 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Maybe you want to draft a guy because there's some 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: running backs in this draft, as you have told me. 144 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: So you have a lot of different possibilities here, and 145 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: we don't. 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: Know what they're really thinking. So I'm thinking that if 147 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: I can get. 148 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: Henry, great, But once I commit that money, even though 149 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: it's not a ton the way you laid it out, 150 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: and maybe it's more, maybe it's less. 151 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Who knows. 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: I think at that point, I'm not going to put 153 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: more money in the Motor. 154 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: And I love Motor, but if you resign Motor. 155 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: I'm thinking that you're thinking he's going to probably start, 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: or at least contend to start, and I hope Pierce 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: can play better next year or be better adjusted to 158 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: this type of offense. And or I'm drafting a back, 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: or I'm getting another veteran at a lower price that 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: I think will really fit in and thrive in this offense. 161 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: Maybe the equivalent of Motor last year. You know, Motor 162 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: last year on the market didn't get what maybe he 163 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: wanted coming off playing with the Bills, being their leading rusher. 164 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: They did not want to offer him a big contract. 165 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: He was due for it, and he ends up with 166 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: the Texans, has a really great year, his best year 167 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: ever as a back. So maybe there's another back we're 168 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: not quite of out there, similar situation who you could 169 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: use on a one or two year deal along with Motor. Again, choices, possibilities, 170 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: there are so many. 171 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I would have to consider that 172 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: because if Motor starts the full year, he's a twelve 173 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen hundred yard back, I mean yeah, and 174 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: you'd think, oh, man, I'd like to bring a guy 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: like that back. In fact, I was watching NFL Network today. 176 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: They're playing their top ten games of the year, and 177 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: so when I turned it on, it just happened to 178 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: me ten seconds left in the third quarter against the 179 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, and Joe Burrow had just hit Jamar Chase 180 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: for that deep ball touchdown and the Texas get the ball. 181 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: The first thing I'd do hand at the motor and 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: it's like, WHOA, Okay, this guy's got something. And I 183 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: know that Bengals defense wasn't great upfront except for one guy. 184 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: We'll get to that a little bit. But I you know, 185 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: it was not in the consideration here, but man, I 186 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: really would look at and consider bringing looking at other 187 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: free agents that might that might fit. I think this 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: running back class in the draft is okay, not great, 189 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: but if you handle some of the others and you know, 190 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: maybe you could put a second round or a third 191 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: round pick on a back, you know you might. Because 192 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: I think the running backs are gonna get pushed down 193 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: in this draft. That's just the way I feel about 194 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: these running backs. And I do think there's a there 195 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: is a Pompton back in this draft not loaded, but 196 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I do think there's some guys, but I think they're 197 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: more the better values. Like Day three guys, guy like 198 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Dylan Lobbe from out of New Hampshire, can run, you know, 199 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: can do special teams, can run back kicks, use them 200 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: the running game. You put them in slot, play them 201 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: in a slot receiver. You know, there's more kind of 202 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: jack of all trades sort of guys you can get 203 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: on Day three and then, like you said, you never 204 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: know what you might get from Damian Pierson the second 205 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: year too, So I know you don't want to, you know, 206 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: bank on that because you didn't get it, But I 207 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: do think there are possibilities there. Okay, let's go to 208 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: number two. This is that wide receiver. Now I had 209 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: a different had a different combination, and I just thought 210 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: of something right before we got to talking. Okay, do 211 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: you want to either sign Mike Evans one year twenty 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: two million dollars or trade for Brandon Aiyuk, But then 213 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: you have to extend him. 214 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: What's the trade costing me? Draft capital wise? 215 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: It's costing you a second. It's costing you pick number 216 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: fifty nine, So you have to give up pick number 217 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: fifty nine and then you have to extend Brandon AYUK. 218 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: But obviously you can extend it three four years. You 219 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: could set up the finances of the way you want 220 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: take cap Pits when you think you have to however 221 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: you want to do it, but the contract will be 222 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: in the end it will be less per a year 223 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: than what Mike is making. So Mike Evans one year 224 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars or trade for Brandon iy you 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: can then have to extend him. 226 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: If if it's either or because going other places here 227 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: either Core uh Man, Mike Evans is so tantalizing. 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: One year though twenty two million. 229 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: And the money twenty two twenty two, you know, twenty 230 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: two million for one or two years. I heard the afternoon, 231 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: I think it was the afternoon, guys talking about this 232 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: today and I thought, you know, oh, they said, Mike 233 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: Evans four years twenty per they're talking about that, and 234 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 3: I thought, okay, but. 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: You got to understand that. 236 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna say that's not a lot 237 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: of money. And in years three and four that starts 238 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: to clog up some things with some guys who want 239 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: to resign and pay that you drafted right to me. 240 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: It's all about you know, this year twenty would you 241 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: say twenty million one. 242 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: For twenty two one year twenty two million. 243 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: He's not doing that. 244 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: But okay, if I have to choose between those two, 245 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: I think I just go ahead and take Mike Evans 246 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: and I'll worry about Ayuk later. I might be able 247 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: to trade for a player of that stature next year 248 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: or do something of that nature. I know you get 249 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 3: a longer term with the way you just laid it out, 250 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: but I think deal me in for Mike Evans for 251 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: a year in your scenario. I do believe they'll do 252 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: something different. And I think in all these conversations you 253 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: and I talk about this, but I don't hear enough. Hey, 254 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: what about Nico and having to resign him, which I'm 255 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: not saying automatically. 256 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Has to happen this offseason, but you got to consider it. 257 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Yep. 258 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,239 Speaker 2: You have to talk about the possibility. 259 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: Otherwise you risk either having a franchise him next year 260 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: or he walks. He hits the open market and he 261 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: has another twelve thirteen hundred yard season and he's an 262 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: elite free agent that's going to get a lot of attention, 263 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: and you might not be able to afford it because 264 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, we didn't do it back when we 265 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: could have, so they got to take all of that 266 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: into consideration. But in your either or, I'll take Evans 267 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: for a year and see where it takes me. 268 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of with you on that, although 269 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: I think Brandon, I you pretty young guy. He's twenty five, 270 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know though that you would, you know, 271 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: pay him, you know, say, four years sixty eight paid 272 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: less than Mike. I think either way you go, you 273 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: still it's maybe not as pertinent with Brandon Ayuk because 274 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: he's a young guy. 275 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: But Mike I wants more than that. He wants more 276 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: than six. 277 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I think he does. I think he does. I think 278 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: you're probably paying four. If you're gonna pay the four 279 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: year deal, you're paying four for eighty for both of them. 280 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: But you'd have to trade for Brandon Ayuk. Now he 281 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: also knows this offense, knows Bobby Slowick, and I would imagine, 282 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's gonna give a discount. But 283 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: he gets to play with c J. Stroud. So you 284 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: tell me Rock Perdy or CJ. Stroud which guy you 285 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: want to play with. I think that's pretty pretty uh set. 286 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: I think the other thing either way. But mostly if 287 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: you do get Mike, and you get Mike for a 288 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: shorter contract, Michael he wants a couple of years whatever. 289 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: I would imagine Mike, if he's coming back home, he's 290 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna want that four year deal. I can't do for 291 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: a eighty not for a guy that's going into his 292 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: thirties and has had some soft tissue injury. Either way, 293 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm drafting a guy. I think it'll just 294 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: depend on when I need that guy to produce. If 295 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: I need that guy to produce right away, then you 296 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: know that's that's gonna you know, it's probably gonna it's 297 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna drive my draft decision at some point. But if 298 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I feel like Mike can stay healthy, I got a year, 299 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I could take maybe a shot on a guy that's 300 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a project, but he's a heck 301 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: of an athlete. Give a year to develop. Mike moves 302 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: on after a year, maybe stays who knows. That's an 303 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: interesting one. The Brandon Iwyukee situation is definitely want to watch, 304 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: But just the knowledge that he has of this offense 305 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: be with CJ. Stroud knowing Bobby Slowick, et cetera. I 306 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: don't think that'd be a tough one. 307 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: Okay, don't you think that ultimately? And again we're just 308 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: hypothesizing here. We don't know what they're gonna do. But 309 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna look at the receiving cores and say, 310 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: we got Niko, we got Tank coming back here. We 311 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: already have dynamic playmaking ability with those two and they 312 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: live here. What else do we need in the wide 313 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: receiving cores? Do you really need Mike Evans? I mean, look, 314 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: you love to have Mike Evans. 315 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: Who right exactly you really need that? 316 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: Or do you need something else? Like we talked about 317 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: maybe young Robert Woods, whoever that might be somebody that 318 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: filled that role. 319 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. Does Mechi rise? Does Mehi get closer. 320 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: To the level that you anticipated when you drafted him 321 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: because he was just coming back last year from the 322 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: year off and all of that and his first taste 323 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: of NFL action. Man, there are a lot of questions 324 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: there to sink our teeth into, and we have a 325 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: lot of offseason to talk about those things. 326 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: What's next? 327 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know to end, we'll we'll leave 328 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: right here. I don't think you can bank on that success. 329 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: I think you'd love to be able to see it, 330 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: but I don't know that you'll be able to bank 331 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: on it. And so at that point, it's kind of 332 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: like Aaron Foster. If you know a Arian Foster was 333 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be Arian Foster in twenty ten, maybe you 334 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: look at a different second round than Ben Tate, you know, 335 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: but you didn't, and then you ended up making the 336 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: best of the situation, having this two headed monster that 337 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: ended up being really down good for the next three years. 338 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: You know what, Ben was back on the field. So 339 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting, you know. I just know there's 340 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: so much talk about bringing Mike in. I'm like, it's 341 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: not that I don't want Mike Evans, but I just 342 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: want to make sure that it's the right financial move 343 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: for everybody, and there's value that's to be brought in 344 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: when if Mike does decide to come here. Okay, interior 345 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: defensive line. Like I said, we have no idea what 346 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins does, what team wants to do with Sheldon, 347 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: et cetera. But you have the opportunity to sign one 348 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: or the other exact same money, three years, fifty two million, 349 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. They're very good. You can 350 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: sign either Grover Stewart or DJ Reader. Which one do 351 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: you pick for the next three years? 352 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: Like I said last week when we were talking about Reader, 353 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: you're asking me to talking about my children, and I 354 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: want my children to come. 355 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: Home to me. Yes I do. But Johnny, I gotta 356 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: defer to you who's who. 357 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: You better off with in this defense, provided that you 358 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: look the other side, the other edge, opposite will We 359 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: don't know what it's gonna look like. No J signed 360 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: right now. Maybe you sign them, maybe a franchise him. No, 361 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: Derek Barnett, Jerry Hughes. You don't know who's gonna be 362 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: out there right on that edge. But let's say you 363 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: get somebody really good. You get somebody you really feel 364 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: good about. Now in the interior you have Malik. You 365 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: know who the reserves are. Maybe one of them can 366 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: rise up. But are you better off with Stuart or 367 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: with Reader? You have to ask yourself that I'm inclined 368 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: to say Stuart, but I love DJ your thoughts. 369 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I think right now that DJ's probably just a hair 370 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: ahead of Grover Stewart. But Stewart helps you in two ways. 371 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: Obviously because Stuart comes along from the Colts, so it 372 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: hurts the Colts and it helps you, and it's like, man, 373 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: it's not the major consideration, but it definitely is a consideration, 374 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: especially for us talking on the radio, I would love DJ. 375 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: I do worry a little bit. He's had two injuries 376 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: in the how many years he been up there? Four years? 377 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: He said, two injuries in four years since he's been 378 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: up there. Stuart's been banged up a little bit, but nothing, 379 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, like where DJ has lost a couple of years. 380 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: But I feel like I would say Stuart just because 381 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: it helps us by hurting the Colts as well. But 382 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: if you tell me you know DJ's coming back, I'll 383 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: throw a party. I mean that guy in this defense man. Wow. Okay, 384 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: so you mentioned Edge. So pick number four, number five, 385 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: just real fast, four to five, it's one. Let's go five, Okay, 386 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: good number five. You have to give up your first 387 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: rounder for a free agent. I'm telling you you gotta 388 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: give up the first rounder. You gotta give up pick 389 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: number twenty three for a free agent, and you gotta 390 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: pay him. You've decided got to do it. Some reason. 391 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: You can't bring JG back doesn't work. So you're like, 392 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: you know what, we gotta have a dominant edge player. 393 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: You have to give up your first rounder, and you 394 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: gotta pay him similar money. Difference is negligible. Who would 395 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: you sign Brian Burns or Josh Allen? 396 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: Jack Wars Uh boy, you talk about hurting the opponent, 397 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: but Allen's out of there anyway. 398 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: There is no way they're bringing back Alan, right. 399 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because they gotta pay Trevor. I don't think 400 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: what he's gonna want, but I think the money's gonna 401 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: be pretty similar for Brian Burns. Right, So do you 402 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: want twitchy, quick, fast off the edge or do you 403 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: want Josh Allen who has got some of that but 404 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more powerful, a little bit more explosive 405 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: in that way. Which one would you want? 406 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: And Allen had such a good year in terms of the. 407 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: Sack stats, and I think I go for Allen because 408 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna think he's better against the run, 409 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: and they want to be really good against the run. 410 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: So I think, if it's the same money, and I 411 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: have to go in that direction, again, you're not leaving 412 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 3: me any other option, but Burns, I think I take 413 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: Josh Allen in this situation, it's gonna be very confusing 414 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: to people when they talk about you with Josh Allen 415 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: and the quarterback Josh Allen, and this gets this gets 416 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: to be really tough, but I believe that it's worth 417 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 3: it to take him. You'll have Josh Allen sacking Josh 418 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: Allen this year when Buffalo comes visiting at NRG Stadium. 419 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go Jaguar Josh Allen over Brian Burns. 420 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Okay, last one short answer. This is tough because it 421 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: has now become a talking point. Mike Tannebam brought this 422 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: up on ESPN and it just I was like, wow, okay, 423 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: but it makes sense. Russell Wilson landing spot New York 424 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Jets as a backup or finding a starting job somewhere else. 425 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: What do I think should happen? 426 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: I think should happen? 427 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Boy, the Jets really need a good backup quarterback because 428 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: he just saw what happened last year. 429 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 430 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: But it's possible that he Wilson is not gonna like 431 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: that at all. He's not gonna want to sit behind 432 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: Aaron Wilson. I mean Aaron Rodgers so and Aaron Wilson either. 433 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: So I believe it's probably best for Russell Wilson to 434 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: be somewhere else. 435 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: He's got to be somewhere where he could possibly play, 436 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: and not because of injury, because they need him to play. 437 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least that if I'm Russell Wilson, 438 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: I'm my age. I've done what I've done in my career. 439 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: I know the last two years haven't exactly been splendid, 440 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: but they got it into a bit of a grew 441 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: for a while last year before they finally said, eh, 442 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: I believe that he's got to be somewhere else, maybe 443 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: somewhere where you gonna draft one of these young quarterbacks. 444 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: Washington, New England. 445 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: Interesting, I don't interest not Washington, Not Washington. 446 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: That's where he's from. That's why I bring it up. 447 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: He's from the Virginia area. 448 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: Maybe New England. Maybe that's not the worst place in 449 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: the world. 450 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: Form I'll give you this one. What about Pittsburgh. 451 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: I look, I kind of like that, and maybe Mike 452 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 3: Tomlin can make that work. Because who was I talking 453 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 3: to who's a Steeler fan? I said, what do you guys? 454 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: Do it like? As if this guy's making all the 455 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: decisions this fan. 456 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 3: Any guy's doing a quarterback, Are you really going with 457 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: Picket and Rudolph? 458 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: And that's it? I mean, get your tickets today. 459 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: Look, I know they made the playoffs and what it 460 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: could have should and all that, but that was not 461 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: exactly the ideal situation. Picket did not work, and you 462 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: have Rudolph exhoom, the body of Mason Rudolph who actually 463 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 3: played pretty well for you down the stretch. But it 464 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: was what it was. You need a wild card in there, 465 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: something that might hit. You need a lottery. 466 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: Ticket in there, and that could be Russell Wilson. 467 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: I like that. 468 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: Johnny slam down the Russell Wilson cart right there. Okay, 469 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: a certain soon to be a Hall of Famer said 470 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna limit holding the five yards. We'll get Mark's 471 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: gut reaction to that, and then some next right here 472 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: in Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Monday edition 473 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. Sean Harrison, Mark or Vandermere here 474 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: with you. Did a little or in our first segment, 475 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: and we decided we're gonna send Russell Wilson the Pittsburgh Steelers. 476 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. We're gonna do quarterback roulette. We 477 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: always do that every year, try and figure out where 478 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: every quarterback is gonna go and see who gets squeezed 479 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: out of a starting spot. We'll do that down the road, 480 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: but it's not for gut reaction. The first one mark 481 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: our good friend. JJ Watt says, more officials essentially a paraphrasing, 482 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: but more officials would throw fly if holding for five 483 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: yards instead of ten. There's been a lot of squawking 484 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: about the holding that the Chiefs did in the Super 485 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: Bowl and do with regularity. Donovan smichwant Taylor and that 486 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: they got away with it seemingly because they won another championship. 487 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: JJ says, hey, swimen holding the five yards, there'll be 488 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: more apt to call holding. I don't know it's a 489 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: good thing or not what your gut reaction to JJ saying, 490 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: but holding a five yards? 491 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because when we're calling a game 492 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: in the booth, I am watching the ball so closely, 493 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: and I have to If I take my eyes off 494 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: the ball for a split second, I'm dead. When I'm 495 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: watching the game at home, even at home on the 496 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: TV view, you're not getting all twenty two. 497 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: I find myself saying holding constantly? Where are the calls? 498 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: Right, especially especially those those tweeners where the d lineman 499 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: is just really he's kind of by the offensive lineman 500 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: at that's at that point, so he's kind of hanging 501 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: on to something on his side, right, trying to prevent 502 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: him from getting to the quarterback. 503 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: There's so many. 504 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: Holes that go uncalled or could be called. I understand 505 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: where he's coming from. JJ took a lot of heat 506 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: for this because everyone's saying, Oh, that's all we need 507 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: is more penalties, more flags, right right, thanks a lot, Sonny. 508 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: I don't know what the solution is. It is punitive 509 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 3: when you get ticketed for holding. We all know that 510 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: ten yards. But then everyone saying, well, look if you 511 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: do that, if you make holding five yards, let's make 512 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: PI fifteen or twenty if it's beyond twenty, and do 513 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: something of that nature to even it out a little bit. 514 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 515 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: This is getting very politicky. It's a political football. If 516 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: you will, I feel like I'll go back to this. 517 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: Why can't we challenge certain things or more things? More 518 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: plays are challengeable. Bill Belichick is a proponent of this, 519 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 3: but he's not working right now. Every play, every play 520 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: you could challenge. Now only have the challenges that you 521 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 3: currently have. But the good news is we all know 522 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: turnovers are automatically challenged scoring plays, I mean automatically reviewed 523 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: scoring plays, automatically reviewed everything inside the final two minutes. Now, 524 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: this is where it gets dicey. Is every play. 525 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: Under two minutes going to be scrutinized? 526 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: Are we going to the table like we do in 527 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: the NBA or college basketball or college football? 528 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: Sometimes these reviews in the NBA, I'm like, guys, it's 529 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: the third quarter. Who gives a flip? 530 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: Who cares college basketball? I've got seventeen minutes to go 531 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: in this game. This is not important enough to waste 532 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: three minutes reviewing this play. Those sports got to get 533 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: it together. I think there should be a clock on it, 534 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: and I think certain things and I don't know the 535 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: right answer to this, Johnny, but I think. 536 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: Holding or would be holding go ahead? Hey there was 537 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: an obvious hold there. I'm throwing my flag. 538 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: Let's go. 539 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: And you know what, maybe the solution is inside two minutes. 540 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: We're not gonna automatically review holding. We're gonna have you. 541 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: The onus is on you to challenge it. And if 542 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: you have no challenges left. Tough, tough deal with it. 543 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: That's obviously imperfect, but it might be better than what 544 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: we currently have. 545 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Okay, last night All Star Game, NBA 546 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: All Star Game, I didn't watch a lick. I just 547 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of follow what was going on on Twitter, and 548 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I kept seeing, Oh, this is terrible, this is just awful. 549 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Adam Silver is just totally upset about this gut reaction. 550 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Are all All Star games going to die? Now? The 551 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: NFL All Star Game, the Pro Bowl basically has. NBA 552 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: seems like it has. I don't know about the NHL. 553 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: They've done some kind of weird thing in the NHL. 554 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball has always been the Midsummer Classic. Are 555 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: all All Star games dead? Now? You're got reaction? 556 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 3: I think the one that can survive is baseball. The 557 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: rest should go and the NFL. Look, the Pro Bowl 558 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: didn't do well, but you play a game and it's 559 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: not gonna do well either, right. I believe the Pro 560 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: Bowl they made it into something more watchable. 561 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: I think the flag football game's kind of watchable. I 562 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: enjoyed it. It is what it is. 563 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: It's flag football. 564 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: And they had the other skills stuff and whatever else 565 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: they do, and CJ throwing at targets with Mayfield and 566 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 3: all that. Maybe you do that all in one day. 567 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what the right answer is to make 568 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: it a full weekend. But the flag football game, look 569 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: at the crowd. 570 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: They had a crowd. 571 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: Now people do go to the All Star Game in 572 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: the NBA, and it's always a revelation. 573 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: Johnny. 574 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: My message I watched about five ten minutes last night. 575 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: My message to the complainers is. 576 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: Where have you been? 577 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: It's been like this for years? Where even the one 578 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: in Houston in what was it six? I went to 579 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: that one and the pomp and circumstance to lead up 580 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: the introductions, it's amazing. Yep, yeah them everything. Then all 581 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: of a sudden the game begins. It's oh, it's an 582 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: All Star game. It's such a letdown. Yeah, So it's 583 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: kind of funny to me. I think it'd be a 584 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: lot cooler to see more contests and more things like that, 585 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: or more displays of their phenomenal athletic and shot making ability. 586 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: The fact I think I read somewhere that were shooting 587 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: thirty five percent from three last night. They're not even 588 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: garden and they're shooting only thirty five. 589 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: You know, show me you. 590 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: Could shoot forty forty five percent from three without people 591 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: in your face. Because sometimes I watch these guys warm 592 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: up and a lot of people if you've been fortunate 593 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: enough to go to an NBA game, get there early 594 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: enough to watch the players warm up. 595 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: It's sick to see how well these guys shoot. To 596 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: watch the three point shooters warm up, it's like lay up, 597 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: lay up, layer from three point Land. It's unbelievable to 598 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: see the prowess. To watch Curry warm up is incredible. 599 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: I'd rather watch stuff like that than the actual competition 600 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: in air quotes. 601 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Okay, a former NFL executive tweeted this or posted whatever 602 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: you'll call it. No NFL this weekend, no problem. Apple 603 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: TV covered it with the first two episodes of The Dynasty. 604 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Incredible footage and access, especially things like our Patriots draft 605 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: room in two thousand when we drafted Tom Brady that 606 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: was tweeted by Scott Pioli. Did you watch and what 607 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: did you think? 608 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: Really great stuff. It reminds people how highly regarded Bledsoe was. Yes, 609 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: but also the X factor that Brady had with the team, 610 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: and it was what's the name of the guy works 611 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: with Belichick. Who come on, you brought Ernie Adams, Ernie 612 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 3: Adams to have Ernie Adams, I'd rather just watch him. Yeah, 613 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: give me ten episodes of Bernie Adams because he knows 614 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: it all and he's he's gonna tell it like it is. 615 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: And I think for Texans fans, they've got to watch 616 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: this because so much of what Bill O'Brien was talking 617 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: about comes from Belichick obviously, and Bill was his own 618 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: guy too because he had coached before, but there was 619 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 3: a lot of Belisher coming in. 620 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest. 621 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: I thought it's so good on so many levels as 622 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: far as Texans fans go. This shows you how important 623 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: it is for players. And we talk about this a 624 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: lot to keep improving, to keep getting better, which is 625 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: what Brady did. 626 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: He would not be denied. 627 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: He came in one way, he got better and better 628 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: and better and worked at it. 629 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 2: The coaches saw it. 630 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: Ernie Adams talks about, Hey, we know what's going on 631 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: in the building. That's why nobody was surprised who was 632 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: close to it that Brady was named the starter even 633 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: after he threw those picks against the Rams in that 634 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: first season game. 635 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Thought. 636 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 3: When everyone thought, all right, well now this is it, 637 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: you got to go back to Blood. So because Brady 638 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: threw picks, they lost to the Rams. The Rams are 639 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: the best team in the league at that point. Nope, 640 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: stick it with Brady and they take off and win 641 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Unbelievable stuff right behind the scenes footage 642 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: Highly recommended on Apple TV, which has the worst interface 643 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: of all the streaming services, but they still have some 644 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: good stuff. I'm watching Silo too right now, by the way. 645 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I went back and watched after you and 646 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I talked about it on Friday. I went back and 647 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: watched it on Saturday. Watch both episodes again. Just locked 648 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: into it, not no other you know, do you have 649 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: the phone, just watch this. Locked in was like, guy, 650 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: this is great, this is great. And there's a scene 651 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: in there with Ernie Adams and they wanted to interview 652 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: Ernie driving in a car and they were gonna simulate 653 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: snow from like the game they did. The snow actually happened. 654 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: They got in the car and started to drive and 655 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: it started snowing. So when you see Ernie Adams driving 656 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: this car, you're like, it's real. It's literally snowing. As 657 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: they're talking about the Talk run. It is so well done. 658 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: They did a great job. I can't wait to see 659 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: the next eight episodes. I can't wait till they get 660 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: to Ernie Adams part when they talk about Spygate, which 661 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: you can tell that they talk about it, So that's 662 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch, or no doubt about that. Okay, 663 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: we get back on Texas All Access. Mark and I 664 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: had a chance to catch up with the goat, the 665 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Andre Johnson. If you missed it, well, 666 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing, but you got a 667 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: chance to catch up. That's next right here on Texans 668 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: All Access. Nothing like finishing up with the Goat, Andre Johnson. 669 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: Mark and I had a chance to catch up with 670 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: him last week, and well, if you missed it, here 671 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: you go Andre Johnson with me and Mark, let's go here. 672 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 3: He is Hall of Fame inductee Andre Johnson with us 673 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: in the studio. Dre, congratulations, what a long time coming. 674 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: You use the word closure in your press conference and 675 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: you know, first of all, congratulations, but what about that 676 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: part of it because you've been waiting for this. 677 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: For a while. 678 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think you know when you when you've you've 679 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: done so much not think because people always ask me like, 680 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: when did I know or when did I think I 681 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: would be a Hall of Famer. I never really thought 682 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: about it until I retired and Chris Carter, me and 683 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 4: him talk for a little while at that he came 684 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: to the house and he was just like, you feel 685 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 4: everybody feels the same until you get that knock on 686 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: the door. So when you get that knock on the door, 687 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 4: it's just separate you a little bit. So you're you're 688 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: in a fraternity now inside of a fraternity. So it's 689 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 4: just it's a different feeling. Man, it's a different it's 690 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 4: something different by having the gold jacket. 691 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Andre. When you play the game of football, you 692 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: just play sports in generally, do anything you know you 693 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: want to improve. You go run an extra forty, you 694 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: do more reps in the weight room, you go catch 695 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: your hundred passes off the jugs gun. But this is 696 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: one of those where couldn't do anything, There's nothing more 697 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: you could do. Did that make it more frustrating the 698 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: fact that hey, there's nothing I can do. You can't 699 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: go on this big PR campaign, you can't do any 700 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: of this, you can't do extra reps like you do 701 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: when you play the game. Did that make it more 702 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: frustrating in some sense that there really was nothing you 703 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: could do. You just kind of had to wait and 704 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: let the group that committee pick you. 705 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: Well, for me, it wasn't frustrating at all because I 706 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: had no control over it, so it was never frustrating. 707 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: I think For me, I always had the mindset I'll 708 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: get in. It's just a matter of time. Like I 709 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 4: said earlier, men me, Kyle, and Hannah and Travis were 710 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: at the game the night before I got the knock 711 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: and Cal asked me. He was like, do you think 712 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: you He was like, you think you got a shot 713 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: this year? And I don't know. For some reason, my 714 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: gut feeling was like, I think of any years this year? 715 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 4: You know. When I looked at the finalists list, I 716 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 4: was like, okay, it's me regientory hold again. So he 717 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: looked at like, over the past two years the guys 718 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 4: that were selected, they hadn't been a receiver. So I 719 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 4: was like, at some point they gotta at least select 720 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 4: one of us. So when I thought about it, I 721 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 4: was like, you know what, this might be the year. 722 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 4: You know, if not this year, then maybe next year, 723 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 4: but I knew it was gonna probably take about, you know, 724 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: three years or so before it happened. 725 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: Andrea, a lot of people ask you about your favorite 726 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: plays and things like that, and the highlight reels are 727 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: all running again for the last several days, and we've 728 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 3: seen the great moments again. For me, you getting into 729 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: Canton immortalizes that era of Texans football, and your teammates 730 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: can share in this because there were so many great 731 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: moments and I know you didn't get as many wins 732 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: as you wanted and that kind of thing, but there 733 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: were some really sweet wins and great moments and now 734 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: they live forever in Canton. 735 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah they do. And all the guys are like super excited. 736 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 4: You know. We have a group chat with all the 737 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 4: former players. And after I got it was announced, you know, 738 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: I knew for I actually knew for about a week 739 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 4: and a half before it was announced. So you know, 740 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 4: it's so hard to like hold that information in and 741 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: not share it with nobody. But I put in the 742 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 4: group chat. You know, we're in the Hall of Fame. 743 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't not me, right right, So it 744 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 4: wasn't just about me, man, I really, you know, enjoy 745 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 4: sharing the field with those guys, and you know, it 746 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: ain't just me going in the Hall of Fame. They're 747 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 4: they're going in the Hall of Fame with me. So 748 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: just even you know, I've seen j Jo, I got 749 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: to see the Miko right after it was announced. I mean, 750 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 4: if you could have saw the reactions, man like it was. 751 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 4: It was such a great feeling because you know, you 752 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 4: get to shut a field with those guys and go 753 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: to battle with them. 754 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 1: So. 755 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 4: They just I mean, it was just an exciting moment 756 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: for everybody. 757 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: You kind of stole my thunder a little bit. That's 758 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: what I was going to ask you about when people 759 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. You know, I got in, 760 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: I got in, and you immediately said, and I saw 761 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: it right after We're in the Hall of Fame, And 762 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: there were so many people that wanted to feel a 763 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: part of that, your former teammates, this city, this city 764 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of you getting Hall of Fame. 765 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know, people were more nervous about the 766 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: playoff game than they were You're getting into the Hall 767 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: of Fame. What does the city mean to you? Andre? 768 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: And the support that you've gotten from the fans and 769 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: the people in the city that still wear your number 770 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: eighty jersey, that still talk about your greatness and what 771 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: you've meant to this organization. 772 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: It means a lot. I always say, like, I feel 773 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 4: like Houston is a city that opted me. And and 774 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 4: it's funny because even when I'm like, I'm out and 775 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: I could be around guys and that I know, and 776 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 4: we're talking about football and just hanging out and stuff 777 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 4: like that, and they'll tell me, they're like, we know 778 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 4: you're from Miami, but you're Houston guy, and and and 779 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 4: and that's why I say, like, it's not just about me. 780 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 4: And if you see the video that's on on Texans 781 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 4: page after it was announced, that was the first thing 782 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 4: I said. I say, we are officially in the Hall 783 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 4: of Fame. So uh, it's it's like I said, it's 784 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 4: not just for me, it's for everybody because when it 785 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: was tough, they went through those tough years with me. 786 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 4: So it's, uh, it's all paid off and every I'm 787 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: sure everybody's I haven't even really got to see a 788 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 4: lot of people, you know, since I've been back, but 789 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 4: everybody's excited from the things I've been hearing just from 790 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 4: my friends, and things of that nature. Is everybody's excited about. 791 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: Is there another text thread on your phone with University 792 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 3: of Miami guys and how is that one going because 793 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 3: a lot of those guys are in the Hall of 794 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 3: Fame too. 795 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone is excited, you know. Everybody was congratulate me. 796 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 4: The funny thing I don't know, like when I walked 797 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: out on the stage and I was laughing. I was 798 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 4: laughing so hard because Michael Irvin was sitting right in 799 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 4: front of where I was standing at like, and he 800 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: was so like he was fist pumping and everything. And 801 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 4: I think what happened was he saw me walk out 802 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 4: and then he realized that Devin Hester was on that 803 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: so he was like, we got if you read his lips, 804 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: we got two guys going like that. So he was 805 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: he was, he was pumped up. I got to see 806 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 4: Ray Lewis Wednesday night when I got there, and he 807 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 4: it was funny because he knew and he was like, man, 808 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 4: I got to talk to you. He was like, we're 809 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 4: gonna talk in like two weeks. I'm gonna call you. 810 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 4: Was like, I got something I want to talk to 811 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: you about. And when So you knowing that all the 812 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 4: guys Hall of Famous come on stage. Afterwards, he came 813 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: up and he was just dying laughing. 814 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 2: He knew, and you knew, but you couldn't you both knew. 815 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he was dying. He was like, this is 816 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 4: what I wanted to talk to you about. So but uh, 817 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 4: that was great, man, It was a great moment. It 818 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: was It was a great feeling just to be around 819 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 4: those guys. 820 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: Andre Have you ever been to the Hall of Fame? 821 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: Have you been to Canton? Have you ever made that trip? 822 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: No? 823 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: Have you have you thought about what it's going to 824 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: be like when you walk into that room that's got 825 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: all the busts of all the Hall of famers and 826 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: then there you are amongst all them. I've heard somebody saying, 827 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember who said this. Maybe it's John Mad 828 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: that he envisions when the lights go down, it turns 829 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: into like a Hall of Fame toy story where they 830 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: all like start talking to one another. Have you kind 831 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: of thought about that moment of seeing all the different 832 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: busts of Ray Lewis, of Ed Reid and then to 833 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: see there's yours. 834 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 4: No, I haven't really thought about it. I'm actually going 835 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 4: to can the beginning of March. That'll be my first 836 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 4: time going. 837 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 3: You. 838 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: I remember John Mann saying that that he believes that 839 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: the bus speak to each other, right, you know, once 840 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 4: the lights go off, that's I mean you. I mean, 841 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 4: it's only three hundred and seventy eight people right that 842 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 4: are in the Hall of Fame, and I think there 843 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 4: are some conversations because there's I mean, if you just 844 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: look at who's in there, the busts that are in 845 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 4: that room, it's the best at the best. And I 846 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 4: tell people now, I'm a part of the greatest football 847 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 4: team ever. 848 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: Assembly I love you telling stories about Curtis Johnson and 849 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: Larry Kirksey because they coached you directly. 850 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: And here you are going into the Hall. 851 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: Of Fame now officially. And I guess the message must 852 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: be to everybody in all walks of life, but especially 853 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: to young players. It's about the day today, isn't it. 854 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 3: All the work you put in on a daily basis 855 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: with those coaches, those mentors and whatever else you put 856 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: into it. 857 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. I tell people all the time, like I never 858 00:43:54,080 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 4: traveled when I played, so I had a fourteen year career. 859 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 4: The furthest I ever went was to the Bahamas and 860 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 4: that's forty five minutes to hour from Miami. So I 861 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 4: never traveled. I never went any always felt like I 862 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 4: had to be working, and it did with that. It 863 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 4: just takes a lot of sacrifice, you know, it takes 864 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,959 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of work. And that's that's 865 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 4: just what I always felt like I had to be doing. 866 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 4: I didn't want to feel like anybody, you know, out 867 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 4: worked me or got ahead of me. So I just 868 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 4: always I don't care if I went out to a club, 869 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: Like my friends would be like, man, you want it 870 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 4: worked out. I was like, yeah, I was sleep. You know. 871 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 4: It was just something that I knew I had to 872 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 4: do to stay on top of my game and be 873 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 4: the best player. 874 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: I could be one more for you the passage of time, 875 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 3: because I when I first saw you almost twenty five 876 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 3: years ago, nineteen ninety nine, my first day as voice 877 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 3: of the Hurricanes was at that scrimmage at the Soccer Stadium. 878 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: Remember that one. 879 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 3: You're wearing number five going off and I'm like, who's that? Well, 880 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 3: he's probably not playing this year because we've got Santanamoas 881 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 3: and Reggie Wayne and Daryl Jones and all those guys. 882 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 3: And twenty five years later, you're gonna get inducted. It's 883 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: been quite a quarter century. 884 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think back then I even thought I 885 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 4: would be in this position. I was telling I would 886 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 4: say earlier that CJ. You know, my receiver coach, Curtis Johnson. 887 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 4: He used to tell me. He was like, man, if 888 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 4: you just listen to what I tell you, you'll be a 889 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 4: top five pick. He used to tell me that all 890 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 4: the time. And when I really bought into what he 891 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 4: was teaching and showing me, everything just kind of took 892 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 4: off for me. It was crazy, because it's crazy just 893 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 4: how things happened. I had talked to him in a 894 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: few months, and he actually called me the day I 895 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 4: got the knock. 896 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: Whoa. 897 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 4: Oh just coincidentally, he called me whoa and he uh 898 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 4: And I thanked him like, I was like, man, thank 899 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 4: you so much, like because he was like, man, because 900 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 4: he's the they changed it to the u UFL now 901 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 4: yeah yeah, yeah, so he's the head coach, you know, 902 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 4: for the UFL team, And he was doing he was 903 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 4: in town doing media, and he was like, man, everybody 904 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 4: just loves you. Like they they asked me about you, 905 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 4: you know, when I was doing and I told him 906 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 4: I said, man, see ya, I wouldn't be well, Matt 907 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 4: if it weren't for you, like, and I thanked him. 908 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 4: And then later on that evening I got the knock. 909 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 4: So it was just kind of crazy how all that 910 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 4: just kind of happened. 911 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 3: That's great, Andre, thanks so much for joining us. We 912 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 3: know we have a lot more celebrating to do, but 913 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 3: thanks enough for this visit. 914 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 915 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: The absolute best man. Love that man, and congratulations to 916 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson yet again. We'll be back tomorrow, Mark, and 917 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: I'll have you here on Texans All Access. Make sure 918 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: you keep you locked right here in Sports Radio six 919 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: ten for Area forty five. Sean Majhanny and Patrick Creton 920 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: next right here on Sports Radio six ten. Appreciate you 921 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 1: guys for being here and as always, go Texans