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Dodgers 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.960 Red Sox obviously in the headlines with the big deal 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.840 that sent Mookie Bets and David Price to the Dodgers. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.000 So they get a former Cy Young winner and a 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.840 former MVP and Bets and Pry in hopes of improving 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.240 upon their one hundred and six wind total from a 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.960 year ago. It's not the one hundred and six wins 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.560 in the regular season you need to improve upon. It's 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.960 the number of wins you had in the postseason. But 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.240 you put Mookie Bets at the top of that lineup. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.160 You got Corey Seeger, you got Justin Turner, Cody Bellinger, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.880 Max Munsey, Lux Smith Pullick. You got a pretty potent 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.600 lineup there. As for the Red Sox, I guess some 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.880 fiscal sanity here. I just didn't think that we needed to. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.520 If I'm a Red Sox fan, trade away a guy 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.239 who's about twenty six or twenty seven and you could 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.360 build around. He's going to cost me a lot of money. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.000 You make a lot of money. Are you taking a 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.120 year off? Here? Is that they just raised ticket prices, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.200 by the way, a slight raise on Monday, the Red 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.760 Sox did, and then they trade Mookie Bets to the Dodgers. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.960 Dodgers needed pitching, in my opinion, great bat with Mookie Bets. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.720 Wonderful player, one of my favorite players. I go out 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.800 of my way if Mookie Bets in the Red Sox 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.760 were playing, I would watch. I thought that much of him, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.919 thought he was a great player all around. And Jack 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.679 Peterson gets sent down the road to the Angels as 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.840 they make way for Mookie Betts in that outfield eight 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.280 seven seven three d P Show email address DP a 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.200 dan Patrick dot com Twitter handle a DP show had 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.040 a lot of fun with JJ Watton. The first hour 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.640 he hosted Saturday Night Live, and he had one skit 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:27.079 that was a little racy, and he called ahead to 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.680 his mom to give his mom a heads up to 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.800 tell Grandma that this was going to be a little 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.640 sexual nature. And once that skit came on about him 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.000 being a pizza delivery guy to take Grandma too the bathroom. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.400 There pull question for the first hour, Nick Love, and 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.160 what do you have for me? Are you four or 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.720 against fiscal sanity? So do you like it when your 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.880 team overpays for a superstar or lets him go before 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.440 the big contract? Say let him go before the big contract? 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.880 People are upset and Dodger fans are upset with you, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.920 Todd wearing the Dodger jersey because you root for the 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.600 cheating Astros. I do kind of cheating Astros. And this 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.360 because today was a Newsy day with Mookie Bets going 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.120 on Dards, not about being a fan. I had a 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.320 nice Dodger jersey in the close. I just passed the 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.920 information on. Still an Astro fan, Okay, not turning my 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:15.680 back on the Asters. There's nothing to do with the Astros. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.560 Is just wailing the Dodgers because of the bench because 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.960 you stick by your cheaters. I do, yes and whatever 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.360 thing stick by those astros. Are you going to change 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.640 the poll question? McClement? Sure, which directions could we? I 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.720 don't know. I didn't know if you had another suggestion there, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.920 but um I did remember I asked what's the most 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.120 exciting offseason thing going on right now? The NBA trade deadline, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.320 the MLB hot stove or the NFL Draft, And you guys, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.680 I love MLB hot Stove. I feel like it's a 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:47.040 better issue than the actual MLBC. But it's over. Well 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.560 I know, but there was a trade last night that 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.479 was okay, is it really over? Byvise? Bryce Harper signed 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.280 in like late February. Well that's because they said there 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.479 was collusion. But do you is there somebody else out 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.240 there that I'm missing? Not unless or the Dodgers is 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.800 going to get a pitch or was wondering about that. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.120 We got some tweets at saying pointing out they didn't 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.400 give up anyone so they can then mortgage the young 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.080 guys for pitching. Yeah, yeah, I mean you got I 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.520 don't know what the Red Sox hall is because it's 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.000 you know, you're getting minor leaguers there, You've got a 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:17.840 young team there. It feels it feels like J. D. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.160 Martinez is the next guy out in Boston. He might 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.480 make too much money, but you got you got a 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.800 young there's a nucleus there. It felt like I think 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.520 the Red Sox probably looked around and said, we got 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.120 a bloated payroll and we're not better than the Yankees, 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.880 and we might not be better than the Rays. And 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.159 that's why you know, they seemed hell bans on getting 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.120 rid of Mookie Bets because he was going to cost 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.880 them four hundred million dollars. Yeah, we were discussing and 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.640 pretail like, I really don't think buying a World Series 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.760 has really worked at all. The Yankee Is only won 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.640 one with their expensive teams. They won all those with 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.039 the core four, right, and yeah, but they also bought 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.040 it back then. If you think about it, that they 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.600 did raise those prospects, they were able to keep them. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.640 How many teams were able to keep that kind of quality, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.040 that kind of talent, that nucleus because they're too expensive. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.600 So the Yankees did have to spend, it was just 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.200 they didn't acquire anything. They just kept what they had. Normally, 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.720 teams will lose those kind of prospects. Tampa does it 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.680 all the time. Cincinnati or Pittsburgh, they can't keep those 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.000 teams together. The Yankees were able to do that, Yes 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.040 to club. Yeah, but the Cubs were homegrown, the Royals 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.560 were homegrown. The Nationals are kind of homegrown, you know, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.280 I feel like. And the other question was, isn't it 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.720 really pitching in October more than anything like these starting 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.440 You were all high on Cole coming into both teams. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.160 I told you it was the best. I said that 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.400 the start of the year. It's when they the astro 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.960 has got Garrett Cole. I go, oh my god, he is. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:46.680 But you had to go out of your way to 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.760 watch him. I watched him with Pittsburgh and I thought, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.280 this guy is a beast, and then we saw just 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.200 how great he was. Now you put him with Verlander, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.360 and I thought, man, that's pretty impressive. Yeah. There's an 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.520 article from Forest magazine that does payroll equate winning in 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:06.360 MLB and it says it doesn't. It equates competitiveness. You're 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.040 more likely to be at the above eighty five wins 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.320 if you're a top ten in payroll, but it doesn't 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.280 equate necessarily world Series. They said, ignore the payroll of 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.040 your team and look at the actual stats of the 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.440 players on the roster before the season, and do those 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.240 players equate winning? They said, it doesn't always work out 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.280 that the payroll equals World Series. Yeah. I look at 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.920 gian Carlos Stanton and the amount of money he cost. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.240 You man, the Yankees, the Yankees would like to have 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:40.080 a couple of those. Back right to Kobe Elsberry. He's 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.760 still getting paid? Is he still there? I think I 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.800 think he's still getting paid. I think he's owed like 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.800 twenty seven million, and I don't know the last time 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.480 he played. But see, the Yankees can make a mistake 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.880 like that. How many teams in baseball can make a 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.360 mistake like that? Very few? Yes, because very Even with 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.280 all those mistakes that cost him a billion dollars, you know, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.440 I mean, they still went to the Alcs and you know, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:05.960 I mean they're still a game away from going to 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.000 the World Series. Yeah, so I'll take that all day. Oh. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.680 If I'm a Yankee fan, I love the fact they 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.520 spend money. Absolutely. If I'm a Red Stock fan, I'm 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.920 going wait, are we a mid market team here? What 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.560 happened to us? What happened in the stock market that 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.600 I don't know about. Yeah, on the club, how about 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.320 the Mets? They're still paying all these guys. They can 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:28.080 go drastically wrong, right, like the Mets, Which franchise is 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.080 paying the most players for not playing or that don't 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.400 play for them? The Knick's gotta be still paying Alan Houston, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.960 Henny Hardaway. Yeah, I'm guessing. I'm guessing. But you know, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.160 basketball team, there's less people on the roster than a 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.520 baseball team. But I don't know which team is still 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.200 spending the most money on players who don't even play 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.280 for them? All right? I mentioned Pete Rose news. Pete 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.480 Rose has asked the Commissioner Rob Manfred, and this was 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:58.280 earlier this morning, to remove his name from Baseball's ineligible 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.320 list would allow him to be considered for induction into 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.400 the Baseball Hall of Fame. So the petition was sent 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.679 to the Commissioner's office. It was obtained by ESPN. Rose 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.240 and his lawyers argue the commissioners recently opted not to 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:19.360 punish players guilty of major game changing rules in fractions, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.440 and as a result, should end Rose's thirty and a 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.280 half year ban for gambling on baseball while he was 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.400 a manager of the Reds. The lawyers say that Rose's 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:34.079 lifetime ban is quote vastly disproportionate when compared to Baseball's 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.320 punishment of players who took performance enhancing drugs and the 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.600 players involved in the sign stealing schemes of the twenty 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.800 seventeen Astros. There cannot be one set of rules for 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:48.160 mister Rose and another for everyone else. Rose's twenty page 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:54.520 petition for reinstatement says no objective standard or categorization of 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.120 the rules violations committed by mister Rose can distinguish his 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.680 violations from those that have incurred substantially less severe penalties 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.560 from Major League Baseball. Rose is seeking a meeting with 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.440 the commissioner. Rule twenty one d any player, umpire, or 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.760 club league official or employee who shall bet, as some 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.480 whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.560 better has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.000 He would have to remove that rule from the rule 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.640 book forever to reinstate Pete Rose what the Astros did. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:30.440 There's no rule that says what a specific punishment is. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.800 This is one of the shortest rules in the entire 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.120 MLB rule book. And i'd like to know if and 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:43.720 I don't have lockdown proof, but I certainly have what 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.360 would be circumstantial evidence that Pete bet on baseball while 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.480 he was a player. You're trying to tell me that Pete, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.400 who's been known to be a gambler, that he waited 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.640 till he was the manager of the Reds to bet 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.839 on his team every single night. I don't believe that's 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.760 the case. And even if he bet on his team 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.640 to win every single night, he's still betting on his 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:08.080 team while he's a manager. As a player, I believe 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.600 Pete bet on baseball. I don't know. I'm sure Major 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:17.000 League Baseball knows this. My guess is that they're like, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.360 let's just we're gonna suspend him. And definitely he's on 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.719 the ineligible list because he bet as a manager. And 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.360 not even get into did he bet while he was playing? 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.200 Did he bet against his team while he's playing? How 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.000 often did he bet as a player. I just don't 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.120 think you go all of a sudden, he wakes up 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.840 one day and he goes, you know, I'm gonna start 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.120 betting on my team. That's not how gambling works. It doesn't. Yeah, 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.360 going back to rule twenty one D. It doesn't matter 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.199 if Pete Rose bet four or against the team, doesn't differentiate. 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.079 It doesn't matter if he's a player, an umpire, a 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.120 league official, or a manager. But it does not say 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.800 anything in there. He's permanently ineligible for working for an 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.600 MLB ball club. That's what he's ineligible. It has says 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.520 nothing there about it being ineligible for the Hall of 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.319 Fame ballot, the Hall of Fame eliability. The Hall of 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:05.160 Fame added that in later, So it's interesting he could 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.760 be on the Hall of Fame ballot without actually being 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.520 reinstated to participate in baseball. Yeah, because Baseball's Hall of 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.079 Fame has chosen to align itself with Major League Baseball. Here, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.240 that's my choice because we've spoken to the Hall of 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.960 Fame before, and the Hall of Fame says we could 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.880 put him on the ballot if we wanted to, because 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.760 it's their museum and they could do what they want 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.440 to do. They just chose to align themselves with Major 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.040 League Baseball and the rules and regulations there. So Pete 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.959 Rose is on the outside looking in. I still maintain 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:40.920 Pete has gotten far more attention, notoriety, made far more 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.720 money by not being in the Hall of Fame. Because 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.199 if you said, twenty five years ago Pete Rose got 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:54.760 into the Hall of Fame, this isn't a story. Nobody cares. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.640 We care because we saw Pete Rose play and you go, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.600 that's a Hall of Famer, and there with you. I 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.880 went to see him first game I ever saw in person, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:13.600 Pete Rose mid sixties, got his autograph. He didn't charge 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.920 me either back then. Yeah. See. But part of Pete 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.360 Rose's problem is that the people who actually do care 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.000 about this are slowly being replaced by a bunch of 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.320 people who never saw him play that probably don't care. Well, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.920 I don't know. I don't know if Pete Rose getting 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.480 into the Hall of Fame. It's really a hot button 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.560 topic for a certain age group, for the younger younger 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.920 group that yeah, maybe so, But they can't those writers 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.199 can't do anything. This is mazing. This is the commissioner. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.679 So the writers can go, we're gonna put Clemens in 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.760 or Bonds in. They can't put Pete Rose in unless 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.880 he's on the ballot. Then you'd find out what these 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.000 younger writers think about Pete Rose. The commissioner, I think 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.240 wants to uphold the integrity of that decision by Bartsia 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.320 Matti and Bud Seelig didn't want to go against that. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.000 Faye Vince didn't want to go against that, and this 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.160 commissioner doesn't want to go against that either. When we 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.200 had him in Washington, DC, when he joined us at 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.360 the All Star Game, and the Commissioner and we talked, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.480 and I don't want to compromise what we said off 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.040 the air, but I got the same feeling that I 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.800 got from Bud seeing this is never happening. While I'm 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.280 the commissioner of Baseball. It's just not yeah, I'm a club. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.360 But still like thirty years ago, having every league partnering 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.320 with a casino sea like MLB and MGM are gigantic partners. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.840 I mean, it's gambling so different now, but you can't 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.280 be a part of something that gives the illusion you're 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.440 fixing a game that maybe even more so now because 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.680 it's so open. Yeah, but now I would rather have 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.720 Vegas involved in this right than I would where it's 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.000 you know, kind of offshore and who knows what's going 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.280 on here, shady characters where you could get to somebody. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.320 Vegas is the one that protects, you know, the betting 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.400 part of this, the integrity of this. I did notice 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.560 around Super a week a lot of players are answering 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.520 questions about spreads, and like it was, I feel like 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.200 we're did we talk to some football players, like yeah, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.320 telling about this betting thing? Like I think it's could 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.480 be hard to keep players from betting now because it's 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.080 such a big thing now. I mean, yeah, but you 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.640 know you can't, right, Like I know that you could say, oh, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.840 you know what, everybody's doing it, then I want to 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.320 do it. But I mean Tony Romo three years ago 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.600 is penalized for having a fantasy football. Now there's a 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.800 team in Vegas. You know, well, look, you know, these 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.800 leagues are all hypocritical. And I said this before. As 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.720 soon as they figure out how to make money, it'll 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.400 be legal. I mean, the ethics go away. This is 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.920 about how do we make money? And how many years 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.680 ago did I say that? I said that to this audience. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.120 As soon as the leagues decide how they can divvy 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.360 this up and every all these owners get their money, 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:57.320 that's when you're gonna have gambling, legalized gambling, right, yeah, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.640 I think this legalized game. I know it's in the open, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.320 but it does risk this more money coming into this. Now, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.400 maybe players will compromise. Happen throughout history. Yeah, but it 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.520 feels like Vegas keeps a closer eye on this. And 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:15.520 if you're the leagues, your leagues are only like, you 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.400 have to have somebody keeping an eye on this, people 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.640 keeping an eye on this because your sport, the integrity 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.120 of your sport, the validity of your sport is based 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.600 off of what you're seeing is real. You know, Baseball 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.520 got hurt because all of a sudden, you're watching, You're going, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.480 those guys are cheating, those guys who are using steroids, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.320 those guys are you know, cheating with surveillance cameras. Remember 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.400 the Tim Donaghee situation, you know with the NBA that 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.320 hurt the NBA not in a long long term, but 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.040 it did immediately where people went the sea. I told 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.840 you those officials. I think people have this conspiracy theory 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.320 when it comes to officiating. All they're on the ticket, 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.400 how do they miss that call? Like we've all thought, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.800 how did you miss that call? I don't go, I 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.919 don't take that leap where I go. Yeah, they're on 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.960 the take. Oh they're cheating. Oh, they want them to win. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.520 But I think that if you if you don't have 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.280 that integrity, then you've really lost something because then you 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.320 lose the confidence in your audience that what they're seeing 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.680 is it real. And there's gonna be billions and billions 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.280 and billions of dollars bet legally in these sports. I mean, 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.399 we got a hockey team in Vegas, we got a 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.320 football team in Vegas. The curtain's been pulled back all 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.919 of these owners. Oh, we'll never go for it. It 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.320 goes back to the BCS. Oh, we'll never go for 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.800 a playoff. Wait, how much money can we make? Let's 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.640 do a playoff here. That's what happens. These guys are phony, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.840 Like the transparency is. They just want to make money. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.640 I don't care about it. Oh you know we can't 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.000 have gambling attached to this, can't we? Yeah, I'm think 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.440 glothing for the NFL. Well, I couldn't have to play 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:03.720 footballs up like their matter about that. Then you know somebody, Oh, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.439 you're gonna be gambling on it. So we don't care 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.800 if you have a gambling They're trying to keep everything 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.119 above board, you know, with the injury lists and everything 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.080 By the way, you know, the Patriots thing is still 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.439 being yes, look into yeah, yeah, I don't know what 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.320 they're I don't know what they found. I'm trying to 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.440 find this out, Like what did you find that? Now 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.480 keeps this open and I haven't found that out too. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.680 We're talking about it or whatever. Yeah, that make some 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.680 good offseason content. By the way, it couldn't be. We 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.600 could use that. It could be. You know, now we 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.600 got enough to talk about, you know, Brady to the 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.240 forty nine ers, those kind of things. Yeah, but that 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.480 in Mark if he resize that the Pats will eat another, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.480 will lease sub kind of scandal get us through. If 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.280 you're the Niners, would you trade Jimmy Garoppolo for Tom 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:49.480 Brady right now? White hot? Yeah? I would. Good. You 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.960 imagine if that happened, if the Niners go, hey, Bill, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.000 you love Jimmy Gee, We'll send him back. Jimmy g 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.719 makes more than Tom. You know that seems like an 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.640 even samp. I love the story, you know, I don't 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.439 think there's any truth to it at all. Uh, you know, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.800 it's sort of thrown out there by Skip Bayliss to 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:15.040 troll everybody finalize. Yeah, yeah, like they it's so reaction there. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.639 I you know, I would trade Garoppolo right now and 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.240 get Tom Brady Shannon, what do you think? Yes, I 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.600 worry that they're gonna be just good enough to keep 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.960 Jimmy g win twelve games every year, but not quite 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.159 good enough to win a su They almost won a 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.119 Super Bowl. We stopped with this that he could have 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.760 if they had two first downs, they win the Super Bowl? 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.600 I know, but are you confident that he's going to 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:40.560 get him back there? Confident? I'm not confident that Mahomes 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.480 will get back there. As much as I love him 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.280 and they got talent there, it's really hard to get 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.639 back there and then win again. It's been fifteen years 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.480 since we've had back to back. Yeah, club, it's like 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.359 you mentioned Bill O'Brien earlier. Deshaun Watson's gonna get you 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.800 eleven wins every year. It's to eternity, but you're never 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:00.720 gonna win a Super Bowl with bild Ryan is your coach. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.680 It's like the good limbo in the NFL. Yeah. Oh, 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.320 against the grain is back. That was very against the grain. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:08.880 I love it. All right, we'll take a break here. 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.320 I want to read some of the tweets. Some of 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.560 the tweets that I can read from Bengal fans. They 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.720 were upset at me yesterday because I had the audacity to, Oh, 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:20.800 Todd mcshay's joining us now, Is that right? Yeah? We 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.040 got time? Oh okay, all right, So we'll get to Todd. 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:27.520 Mcfade's got his mock draft out, and I want to 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.960 know the team. Is it the Lions or the Giants? 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.720 That could be the gatekeeper too? Do you want to 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.320 come up and get a quarterback? Is anybody gonna go 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.240 up and get Tuma? Can anybody go get Joe Burrow? 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.960 That's what I'm curious about with Todd. So we'll we'll 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.040 talk to him and I'll read these mean tweets from 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.800 Bengal fans, edited in my direction. Twenty one after the hour. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.280 This is the Dan Patrick Show. Hey, it's Pauli Paps 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.440 for the Dan Patrick Show. We've got an awesome podcast 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.920 to tell you about today. 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