Speaker 1: Hey, everyone is the community en Priantcene and you are
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Speaker 2: Today. I am chadless, but I do have a replacement.
Speaker 2: Hot He has been one of my bestest friends for
Speaker 2: good lord. Has it been like thirty years or something that?
Speaker 2: Has it been like a long time.
Speaker 3: Yantie, I'm only twenty nine. Yeah, listen, you even know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what year we met, but anyway,
Speaker 2: this is Cindy Snow a k A. Bobcat aka Pussy
Speaker 2: Willow aka Godfather's Hoe aka Hardcore Champion. I mean she's
Speaker 2: a monikers like I, but she's always Cindy to me.
Speaker 2: So Cindy, welcome, Welcome to is up here. I've been
Speaker 2: trying to get you on for eighty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got my.
Speaker 2: Closet in you.
Speaker 3: So I love you.
Speaker 4: I love you too, and.
Speaker 2: I miss you terribly. First of all, how have you been?
Speaker 2: And let's just start like with Curry, how have you been?
Speaker 2: And what are you doing today? And then we're going
Speaker 2: to backtrack Okay, the good stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm gonna give it a little scenario because
Speaker 3: the person I am today is not the same person
Speaker 3: it was yesterday. And being real quick during the pandemic,
Speaker 3: I started getting tremors and I thought, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I've got lupus or something. And with that, I go
Speaker 3: to the doctors and they tell me that I have
Speaker 3: great funny story because I never answered my phone if
Speaker 3: I don't know a number, so the same number kept
Speaker 3: showing up. I'm like, oh, it was probably when my
Speaker 3: friends changed their number. Didn't tell me. So I pick
Speaker 3: it up and they goes, this is your doctor. Answer
Speaker 3: your phone. Answer your phone. You have Grays disease. I go, what,
Speaker 3: I never even heard of it. He goes, I go,
Speaker 3: am I gonna die? He goes, no, pick up your
Speaker 3: medicine and magann appointment. So now I'm freaking out because
Speaker 3: I'm looking at what it is and everything. Well, AnyWho,
Speaker 3: it's a thyroid condition. It fucks with your your your everything,
Speaker 3: your brain. Everything. Like so I always knew I was
Speaker 3: a little off. I just didn't know what it was.
Speaker 3: I just figure out that was the way I was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say shit, you know, you know
Speaker 3: how I was. I was like whatever, and then I'd
Speaker 3: be back to normal. So with that, I got some
Speaker 3: medication and in three days it changed my whole life.
Speaker 3: Like it looks like I was wearing rose colored sunglasses
Speaker 3: and then they took them off. And when I was
Speaker 3: finding out the people that I loved, I love, and
Speaker 3: there's some people that just hung around me that it
Speaker 3: really didn't like and it was annoying. In the meanwhile,
Speaker 3: I'd be like I used to be like, yeah, let's
Speaker 3: do it, and I'm like, oh, you're annoying. You get
Speaker 3: on my face. But so on, what's that like?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I look back at some of the ship. If
Speaker 3: it wasn't probably if I didn't have grades, I probably
Speaker 3: don't have the ship I did well.
Speaker 2: And we'll get into all that shit, as you say,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of it. But I remember talking
Speaker 2: to you when you got the diagnosis and you told
Speaker 2: me all of this and you were saying, how quickly
Speaker 2: like the meds kicked in and like you started to
Speaker 2: feel better. Yeah, So how are you doing today? Do you?
Speaker 2: Is it like, because it's been months since we found
Speaker 2: out that this was going on.
Speaker 3: It's been going on years now that I found out,
Speaker 3: but during the pandemic. But what I uh, it's an
Speaker 3: ongoing thing I'll forever have.
Speaker 2: When I say months, I mean that since I talked
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I'm finding out bits
Speaker 2: and pieces every time I talk to you, And sadly
Speaker 2: we don't get to talk as much as I would
Speaker 2: love to, so whenever we do, we uh, we try
Speaker 2: to keep in touch with each other. But it's been
Speaker 2: a couple of months since I had an update, So
Speaker 2: has anything changed? Is it? No?
Speaker 3: I'm just a long times of medication. I look at it,
Speaker 3: I go, it's official. I'm oh, there's all the medicine
Speaker 3: of it. But yeah, they said I've had it since
Speaker 3: I was nineteen, So imagine all those years, Like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: I life.
Speaker 2: Do you know what year you acquired it?
Speaker 3: Like how did they go that long? Well, they they know,
Speaker 3: because you know, they asked you questions and stuff, and
Speaker 3: they go, no, we're guessing about that you've had this
Speaker 3: since you were like eighteen. And it makes sense because
Speaker 3: I never used to get anxiety until I turned eighteen,
Speaker 3: and then I always did crazy shit then too, Like
Speaker 3: I would think weird things and I would just say weird.
Speaker 3: You know one person that I thought you were bipolar?
Speaker 3: I go, in a way, I was because it was
Speaker 3: so it's hard, like it's I'm lucky compared with some
Speaker 3: people are hair fall out, Uh, they can't get out
Speaker 3: of bed, like technically is a disability. And I get
Speaker 3: on disability, but I feel good. Why would I you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: say it for the people who need it, And it's
Speaker 3: just really like some of the people like I just
Speaker 3: I'm on a site. I have to get off of
Speaker 3: it because I'm like, God, I don't even feel that
Speaker 3: bad as they do. But it's a struggle, and the
Speaker 3: struggles real. And if you on, everybody has grades, they
Speaker 3: can they can tell you it's your thyroids. So thank
Speaker 3: god I'm on medicine. I didn't have to take it out.
Speaker 3: I'd have to do any radiation any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: So I consider myself.
Speaker 2: Lucky, absolutely, and we're lucky to you know, be talking
Speaker 2: about it then, because you know, since you had it
Speaker 2: for all these years, God forbid, it could have like
Speaker 2: been full blown and something.
Speaker 3: So I was headed for the perfect storm they call that.
Speaker 3: So if that would have happened, I would have died.
Speaker 3: But I was headed that way, and I always knew
Speaker 3: something wrong, but I never, like even when I went
Speaker 3: to doctors. They never ever checked my blood work to
Speaker 3: find it, like all these years, but a lot most
Speaker 3: of the time, I never even went to the doctor
Speaker 3: because I'm like, who needs a doctor? I never had
Speaker 3: insurance or anything. So all I have to say is,
Speaker 3: if you think there's something wrong with you, then there
Speaker 3: probably is, so go to the doctor.
Speaker 2: Good for you. Well, I thrilled that they found it
Speaker 2: and that you're feeling better. And I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: all the years that I've known you, we always called
Speaker 2: you crazy, but not not crazy like you know, put
Speaker 2: her in. You were just like a party.
Speaker 3: Girl, like yeah, I didn't care what I said.
Speaker 2: I was just like no. And and so the one
Speaker 2: story I'm going back, I know you're going the one
Speaker 2: story that I always I always remember you saying, and
Speaker 2: you can tell it because you probably tell it.
Speaker 3: You tell it so delightful because you tell it because
Speaker 3: you love this story so much.
Speaker 2: I do love it, and I hope we're thinking about
Speaker 2: the same one. We were in Atlanta, Georgia at.
Speaker 3: A W E.
Speaker 2: W show and it wasn't it Atlanta, No.
Speaker 5: Philly?
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, well it was WEW. Wherever we were,
Speaker 2: it was WEW. And for those of you who don't know.
Speaker 2: WEW was a cute little indie fed that was an
Speaker 2: all women's company. That the only way that we were
Speaker 2: allowed to be on pay per view was if we added.
Speaker 3: Porn, which we never saw. It was in between the clippings.
Speaker 2: Yes, but we did have porn stars come in. Of
Speaker 2: course we do segments, and so afterwards we would all
Speaker 2: hang out. And when I tell you that all the
Speaker 2: girls got along, we all got along because we would
Speaker 2: all end up in somebody's room, like twenty of us
Speaker 2: and drinking and partying and just fun, just so fun.
Speaker 2: This night, everybody ended up in my room and it
Speaker 2: was like it was like story time. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Somebody was talking about someone and and Cindy stands up
Speaker 2: and they hired these strippers or broken didn't now in
Speaker 2: our room, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, because we were talking like stuff that we didn't
Speaker 3: want nobody else to hear too, right, and go ahead
Speaker 3: and tell it, tell it, because.
Speaker 2: There's this one There was this one girl and she
Speaker 2: was very nice. She was very nice. No one knew
Speaker 2: who she was, and I don't know why. She must
Speaker 2: have followed everybody into my room and she she's sitting there,
Speaker 2: nice and quiet, and I think it was lollipop and
Speaker 2: she was like blah blah blah, and Cindy goes, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, don't say another word. Who is that? And
Speaker 2: Cindy just points her finger in this and she goes,
Speaker 2: she goes so hateful too. She goes, who do you
Speaker 2: think you are with your big nose and your.
Speaker 3: Did you say her big hair?
Speaker 2: Big big news? We don't know you you you know,
Speaker 2: you were so mean. I think you're too, because we
Speaker 2: are probably you know, we were drinking, which is fine,
Speaker 2: but the girl was just like, no, I'm fine, you know.
Speaker 2: And You're like, you are not fine. You are to
Speaker 2: get out of this room where and she kicked her
Speaker 2: out of my room and I was I said, sweetie,
Speaker 2: maybe you can come back.
Speaker 3: Later, like babyface. I was like, yeah, I think of that. Afterwards,
Speaker 3: You're like, guy, I really had to do that. I
Speaker 3: don't know what overcame. It came over.
Speaker 2: I did no because you were like, listen, she's a
Speaker 2: stranger and she's not one of us and she can't
Speaker 2: hear this stuff. And I was like, but you.
Speaker 3: Could have did it nice. Well if I did, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't have the story to tell that you love seccretly,
Speaker 3: You're glad I did it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so funny. Another story I remember
Speaker 2: and I can't remember. Pretty. You had to have been
Speaker 2: there when we did the American Idol auditions. You sang
Speaker 2: for me, didn't you remember we had the big black dildo. Oh,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Yes, that was the microphone.
Speaker 3: Right, we were singing in microone.
Speaker 4: What the hell it was?
Speaker 2: I don't know. They said, pretend, they told me, Pretend
Speaker 2: you're Simon cal and I had two other girls next,
Speaker 2: and all of you got your black bildo.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that. You told me, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: At the top, I didn't give a ship.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. The fun. We had so much fun
Speaker 2: in that company. I wish this is what I wish.
Speaker 2: I wish all of us could get together for a
Speaker 2: weekend and just watch DVDs and like have cocktails.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, that that would be the most
Speaker 3: fun ever. Oh my god, that was so freaking funny.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite memory of that company?
Speaker 3: My favorite?
Speaker 2: Mother?
Speaker 3: Like, when I moved to like Louisville, remember in between
Speaker 3: and I got to come and see you guys. Was
Speaker 3: the way to hang out with everybody since I moved away, right.
Speaker 3: I think there's so many. Well, actually, one of my
Speaker 3: favorite top ones is the wedding gam the evening gam
Speaker 3: match of bridesmaids.
Speaker 2: It really was they were, oh yeah, so I had you,
Speaker 2: I had Amy Lee, and I had Shannon god Rest
Speaker 2: soul as my brother. And the gimmick was Fonsie came in.
Speaker 2: But Fonzi. Fonzie was like, I guess he was like
Speaker 2: the referee or whatever, but he was trying to cause
Speaker 2: a divide.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but weren't you refereeing that match though? You were?
Speaker 2: He made me a referee.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Okay, yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He was like the head referee or something, in charge
Speaker 2: of whatever. Yeah, and yeah, because that's the end. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you can never break us up because we have a bond.
Speaker 4: That have a bond.
Speaker 2: But you all wore the the bridid wedding and then
Speaker 2: they got destroyed.
Speaker 3: You all ripped them, ripped them off to shreds. There
Speaker 3: was a meme on that too, because it was pretty funny,
Speaker 3: like all the bridesmay fighting over each other. It was
Speaker 3: funny though. That was one of my favorite memories too.
Speaker 3: It was just so ridiculously funny because Amy Lee was
Speaker 3: gonna strip and you know how much she bitched about that,
Speaker 3: down to her biker's shirts and her vest thing. I
Speaker 3: was dying, had a full outfit on, like tights. I
Speaker 3: was like, and Shannon was like, and I was only
Speaker 3: jerked that had to be in a bikini.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was so funny.
Speaker 3: It was so like your wedding was fun too, fun
Speaker 3: funny story. At your wedding, you were drinkings. You have
Speaker 3: Paine or whatever lining up for the pictures. Amy Lee
Speaker 3: uh put her foot through and ripped it. So, you
Speaker 3: know me, I started laughing. She was so fucking hot.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's funny that she's really nice and
Speaker 3: she's like healing me out. I'm gonna stop laughing because
Speaker 3: it was funny.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 3: She was tripped out of the limo.
Speaker 2: Wait, and you remember in the limo when when my
Speaker 2: nephew cald her fat and she got hot at my
Speaker 2: five year old nephew and the.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god, I kid in her whole yeah
Speaker 3: room explains her whole childhood right there, the whole colding room.
Speaker 2: Oh. I know, I know, But the wedding was great
Speaker 2: because you were in the bathroom. But naked but naked,
Speaker 2: and my cousin runs out of the bathroom and runs
Speaker 2: up to me and she says, there's a girl in
Speaker 2: the bathroom and she's completely naked, and I, oh, that's
Speaker 2: probably Cindy. Let me go see what's good. And I
Speaker 2: ran in at Cindy's like I got my period and
Speaker 2: I yes, You're like, do you have the teampot? I go,
Speaker 2: I'm in my wedding dress, like.
Speaker 3: I don't even know where I got one front to
Speaker 3: be I do, Where'd I get it?
Speaker 2: Artie Amy's husband are seven eleven? Right?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a horrible thing.
Speaker 2: At my wedding.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm very that's so funny, I guess.
Speaker 5: And one of your other special guests there, which one Tammy?
Speaker 2: Tammy was there? Yeah, Tammy was there. Wait when we
Speaker 2: were in the church. You know you're in the church.
Speaker 2: It's a very very nice, quiet, peaceful. These three goofballs
Speaker 2: are in the in the pew, dancing, giggling, and I'm
Speaker 2: giving them laser eyes like you need to stop right now,
Speaker 2: and they're all looking at they all get nervous, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, one, I'm on the altar with the person
Speaker 2: I'm looking at them like you you're gonna have a
Speaker 2: normal wedding us the oh my god, and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have picked anybody else because I love.
Speaker 3: No, I love my crew, Like my favorite wedding ever?
Speaker 3: Was it my wedding? Was your favorite sodding?
Speaker 2: Before we get into any of the other wrestling that
Speaker 2: you Okay, okay, so Cindy, you know, her and I
Speaker 2: really good friends. Will you be in my wedding? Yes?
Speaker 2: Will you be in my wedding?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're in each other's weddings. She tells me. The
Speaker 2: bridesmaids dresses don't have to match, they just have to be.
Speaker 3: Read correct correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I find this really pretty dressed. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: like four and a half months pregnant, so I have this.
Speaker 2: I was, yeah, I was showing right, my boobs are big,
Speaker 2: like all the tuff. So there's like a a room
Speaker 2: that the girls were getting dressed in like a dressing room.
Speaker 2: And there was part of your family that I never met, right,
Speaker 2: But the part that I knew I was, you know,
Speaker 2: because we're comfortable with each other, and we really we
Speaker 2: saw each other boobs and millions times.
Speaker 3: No one cares at that point, right, I just decide
Speaker 3: to get dressed in this room because that's where everybody's
Speaker 3: getting dressed.
Speaker 2: Well, your other side of your family walk in and
Speaker 2: oh my god, oh she's naked and they can of
Speaker 2: their bare breasted with my belly.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't want to hear that, so they go
Speaker 2: running into the room.
Speaker 3: The favorite part was when Al's brother tried to hit
Speaker 3: on you, So okay, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah for that was not everybody was paired up like no,
Speaker 2: No one had a partner.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: This wedding was very bizarre to me, but it was fine.
Speaker 2: So Mini the Blue Meeni Brian Hefron was there for
Speaker 2: Alf Snow and you don't know her ex husband is
Speaker 2: Al Snow. Just the so you know, there's wrestling people
Speaker 2: there and and all this good stuff. So I say
Speaker 2: to me, do you want to partners? You know, walk
Speaker 2: me down the aisle and he says, oh yeah, because
Speaker 2: we knew each other. And you know, so this man
Speaker 2: comes running across the thing. He says he I don't
Speaker 2: have a partner. Why don't I have a partner? So
Speaker 2: I go, oh, you want to be our partner? You
Speaker 2: can walk with us. It's fine, And I really was
Speaker 2: but he was in the wedding.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 2: And he goes, sure, I'll walk with you guys. So
Speaker 2: I'm walking. I grab each of their arms and I
Speaker 2: got two guys, you know, one on each side. My
Speaker 2: husband is sitting in the chair. We're doing like a rehearsal.
Speaker 2: The guy says to me, so, what are you doing
Speaker 2: after the wedding? And I go, I don't know, you
Speaker 2: wanna you want to, like maybe hook up or something.
Speaker 2: We look notice I'm kind of pregnant right now, and
Speaker 2: I do my husband.
Speaker 3: He's probably hot for it.
Speaker 2: Hey, I said, my husband's sitting right there, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 2: he can join us.
Speaker 3: And that's perfect. It was Dave Alice brother. It's such
Speaker 3: a sleeve ball, he really is. So when you told
Speaker 3: me that, I go another Dave story. Yep, he's I'm
Speaker 3: not surprising at all, trying to have a threesome. Surprised
Speaker 3: he ain't ask me to join in.
Speaker 2: Listen as I'm walking, I'm going and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get meani. I'm going, Oh my god, weirdo, weirdo me.
Speaker 2: My husband. He was like, what the fuck.
Speaker 3: And he's like, let's go because he was that guy
Speaker 3: was yeah, he was out there. It would have to
Speaker 3: be Brad Pitt or somebody hot. You're gonna do that
Speaker 3: ship And I'd be like, I don't blame your girl.
Speaker 2: I'll get a ball like you. You know my better half.
Speaker 2: He's not doing that crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm for me.
Speaker 2: I'm fat with my baby in my belly, like I
Speaker 2: told Al And he just shook his.
Speaker 3: Head because al knew his brother's His brother is just
Speaker 3: he goes to bars and write like like drinks and
Speaker 3: you know, has like a a tab and then he
Speaker 3: like doesn't pay him. He runs down and he knows
Speaker 3: the people that he runs out on them with one
Speaker 3: of the guys one of my friends got they were
Speaker 3: married that run the bar. Almost had a heart attack,
Speaker 3: had a heart attack over this guy because he was
Speaker 3: like doing all this stupid ship. Alice brother, he keeps
Speaker 3: getting kicked out and trying to come back. I was like,
Speaker 3: only your brother now for the listen, He's trying to
Speaker 3: have a three simmer friend scene and her husband.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm flattered. I'm kind of gross
Speaker 2: down because this is a weird situation.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I was there and I felt like you were wasted
Speaker 2: and you kept going, come dance, come through this, come
Speaker 2: to that. My cankles were like so simool, Like I'm
Speaker 2: so fat.
Speaker 3: I couldn't break on the floor.
Speaker 2: It's like I gotta go back. Yeah, because I was
Speaker 2: staying with Jamie with Lollipope and we drove all the
Speaker 2: way to you know you guys. So that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: And it was cold.
Speaker 5: February wasn't It was actually a nice day in February.
Speaker 3: I remember somebody from a girl in my hair school.
Speaker 3: She was thrown up out on the gutter. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: edu came.
Speaker 2: Well. When I stayed at Lollipop's house the night before
Speaker 2: her heat broke. So it was like fifty it was
Speaker 2: fifty two degrees. Yeah it was Ohio and it was
Speaker 2: yeah degrees in her house. It was freezing, and so
Speaker 2: I had to get up to go to the bathroom
Speaker 2: and I remember running because it was so cold, and
Speaker 2: then running back and then like jumping into the bed freezing.
Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, that's horrible, hilarious.
Speaker 2: But we did.
Speaker 3: We had.
Speaker 2: There's so much more.
Speaker 3: We had so much Oh my god, yeah, I sure did.
Speaker 3: I've got to actually have it leaning up against my
Speaker 3: family right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, I'm there. Yes, I'm always paying attention. So
Speaker 2: many fun things. But let's go back. So for a
Speaker 2: lot of people might not know this, but you you
Speaker 2: were in like WWF right, how did you start there?
Speaker 2: Just the brief you don't know?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I am actually on the indies. You know,
Speaker 3: you were an ECW member and you come to some
Speaker 3: indie shows with us or whatever. So me and Inferno
Speaker 3: went on this tour for the South and you know,
Speaker 3: all these bookings and we were somewhere I couldn't even
Speaker 3: tell you where. And then Bruce Pritchard came up to
Speaker 3: me because afterwards and he goes, listen, we'd like to
Speaker 3: offer you a developmental call, met, but I was going
Speaker 3: to go to e c W the following week. Member.
Speaker 3: Finally Tim's like, all right, enough of the indies come
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 2: I wish I would.
Speaker 3: I'm me too, you know, knowing what I know now,
Speaker 3: I definitely would have been like fuck you and when
Speaker 3: uh and then ECW with you Tommy Dreamers like New
Speaker 3: York calls you got to go, and so everyone's like, no,
Speaker 3: you gotta go. Yeah, They're like, no, go to double
Speaker 3: this because that's what everyone does. Well, needless to say,
Speaker 3: that's how I started. And then I started training up
Speaker 3: in Connecticut with the Mean Street Posse, which is another thing.
Speaker 3: And then I was down in Memphis with them too,
Speaker 3: right but yeah, good time.
Speaker 2: So you know, you were a Godfather's hoe And I
Speaker 2: just saw an interview with him and he said the
Speaker 2: way that the girls became like hoes and recurring whose
Speaker 2: is that they would bring him weed. Were you one
Speaker 2: of the girls who brought.
Speaker 3: Well, actually those girls were the strippers.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was the only one under contract, so I was
Speaker 3: kind of like just like we were a ww like
Speaker 3: I was one of the person like, you know, I
Speaker 3: was really actually knew how to wrestled stuff, and they didn't. Right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: I didn't bring him anything.
Speaker 2: So how I know I didn't bring them? How did
Speaker 2: it come about for you to get the bell the
Speaker 2: hardcore belt?
Speaker 3: So as I was down here, So this is from
Speaker 3: what I've been told Trish, I was, I was signing
Speaker 3: for a Trish Stratus and so they were like kind
Speaker 3: of looking at me to take stable spot, and so
Speaker 3: they realized asking for the fiatures and doing. Then Trish
Speaker 3: got signed the same thing as our truth did. Now
Speaker 3: this thing was Trish was on like every muscle ma.
Speaker 3: She didn't know how to wrestle, because we actually watched
Speaker 3: her learn how to wrestle, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: on TV and she she had like on every fitness magazine.
Speaker 3: So you take me, even though everyone said I should
Speaker 3: have got it, just because I was the one who
Speaker 3: really wrestled and that's what I wanted to do, but
Speaker 3: they gave it to Trish. So now they now they
Speaker 3: now they put me down in Memphis because they really
Speaker 3: don't know what to do with me. And then they
Speaker 3: were gonna what they were doing with the whole train.
Speaker 3: They were looking for a wrestler to join the whole train.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I just asked Bruce, I go, look,
Speaker 3: just then put me on the whole train. I'd be happy.
Speaker 3: So I wind up. Next thing, you know what, I'm
Speaker 3: on the whole train. Next thing, I know, everyone's calling
Speaker 3: me Champ. I'm like, what the fuck are these people
Speaker 3: talking about? Champed? I'm like, all right, well I kind
Speaker 3: of find out they go that day, they go, you're
Speaker 3: gonna win the hard court belts and they even said,
Speaker 3: like you know, fast pinned crash Holly, that if they
Speaker 3: would have known that they got a big pop and
Speaker 3: went over, they would have kept it going for a
Speaker 3: little bit. But that's how that happened.
Speaker 5: But hey made history right my claims saw.
Speaker 2: How long did you actually hold that belt for?
Speaker 3: Oh like five seconds? Yeah, it was right, and he
Speaker 3: turned around to school. Yes, but he said they would
Speaker 3: have like in and I did some stuff talking about
Speaker 3: the belt and shit like you know, like chasing a belt.
Speaker 3: But uh, they would have h said they kept it
Speaker 3: longer if they would have known. And then after that,
Speaker 3: Coca Cola goes, well they I guess they never really
Speaker 3: listened with the hope what the Godfather was and they
Speaker 3: were like, uh, we can't have sponsor this if you
Speaker 3: guys are going to do this. So then they took
Speaker 3: us off and then they turned them into the good Father.
Speaker 3: Remember they did whole thing, and so they kept me there.
Speaker 3: They're like, we're going to bring them back, but they
Speaker 3: couldn't bring them ba because they would lose money. They
Speaker 3: would lose their uh you know, all the king sponsorship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's where that came up. My only heat is
Speaker 3: in the book where it says, hark they have the hoe.
Speaker 3: They never put my real name on and I'm like,
Speaker 3: fuck that I earned that my name is in that book.
Speaker 3: I always I think I called and yelled at. I'm like,
Speaker 3: why is my name not in the book? Bitches?
Speaker 2: You know? Like the call you.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think, uh, Pam or Paul or
Speaker 3: something like. I think I think Jim Ross and Jerry
Speaker 3: Waller just made it up on the spot or pat
Speaker 3: something really something like grandmother's name.
Speaker 6: Oh Gertrudecker, Oh my god, crazy.
Speaker 2: I really wish you would it came with us, that is.
Speaker 3: I wish so too. No one I know now I
Speaker 3: would have been fuck you w F And when I
Speaker 3: went with you guys, everyone kept telling me no because
Speaker 3: I knew maybe maybe he's a blessed me and probably
Speaker 3: got killed on the road. The way we were going
Speaker 3: at it, we have more, I'm just kidding. We would
Speaker 3: add good times.
Speaker 2: You and me would have been attached at the hip.
Speaker 5: You know, that's sure.
Speaker 3: And then look we normally do when we go other
Speaker 3: shows is back and left.
Speaker 2: I know I know what about the what about the
Speaker 2: TNA stuff? Because we you and I were.
Speaker 3: There the first Yes, so yes, they were there. I
Speaker 3: don't know whatever happened we were supposed to come back
Speaker 3: reoccurring like we were under contract, but they didn't fulfill
Speaker 3: the contract. I have my suspicions on what happened there,
Speaker 3: but I'll let on a lying dog lie. You know.
Speaker 3: I think I know where it fell through. Do you?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Jealousy. I think a lot of it was and try
Speaker 3: to push me into their thing, but it is what
Speaker 3: it is. It wasn't meantal What.
Speaker 2: Did you sign? Because I only signed for four appearances?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I signed like a contract for like I don't know,
Speaker 3: six or seven something like that. And how many did
Speaker 3: we actually do? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I think I did four. I signed for four. I
Speaker 2: did four?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I so I didn't they didn't fulfill my contract.
Speaker 3: I've had more left to do. And I was like,
Speaker 3: do I go what if I want to shoe? That's
Speaker 3: so stupid if you does anybody not know the wrestling business,
Speaker 3: I'm like, we need to shoo for that. Like no,
Speaker 3: that's like chump change. I gotta do that. And then
Speaker 3: like the shows?
Speaker 2: Did you actually do just the two? I don't know?
Speaker 3: Did I do? I do?
Speaker 2: Like four?
Speaker 5: I think because I was with David Young and we went.
Speaker 2: Yet yeah, because the Battle Royal.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, did not didn't? What did I do?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I right, it was Kathy you and I forget.
Speaker 2: Oh it was a mess. It was.
Speaker 3: I did watch it, but you know what, it was
Speaker 3: so much fun we did.
Speaker 2: It was fun. It was just stupid.
Speaker 3: So that's what member that You'd go out and there,
Speaker 3: well they weren't making any money. You'd go out there
Speaker 3: and they're like they had to move everybody over one side,
Speaker 3: so it looked like it was fully what was at
Speaker 3: the fair grounds at the fair grounds.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and you had to pay ten dollars to
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Yeah, oh it wasn't It start out as
Speaker 3: five dollars? I think then I one to ten.
Speaker 2: No, it was ten ten right off the bat, and
Speaker 2: I remember, uh, the Bob Ryder called me and said, uh,
Speaker 2: you have to do press for us. We're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna You're gonna do like a press tour with radio.
Speaker 2: And the first first radio spot I did, the guy says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're doing a lingerie Battle Royal. What do you think
Speaker 2: of it?
Speaker 3: I go, I am, Oh my god, that's good. One
Speaker 3: told me so.
Speaker 2: After I got off the radio. I called Bob Roder,
Speaker 2: I said, am I supposed to bring launderie? He goes yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh gosh, no one told me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so stupid.
Speaker 2: But I liked it there. I did like it there.
Speaker 2: I liked everybody. The girls were nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good. It was a good locker room
Speaker 3: for sure. I think so too. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: the New TEENA. That was a whole different story because
Speaker 3: we were at the very first.
Speaker 2: So I hung out with the girls from this era
Speaker 2: and they're all great.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the boy the guys too, Like I'm friends
Speaker 2: with a lot of the guys that work. They're now,
Speaker 2: They're fine. They're a fun group.
Speaker 3: Of people because you know, like anything, like especially like WWF,
Speaker 3: everybody's so worried about their spot, like they're like somebody's
Speaker 3: gonna take it. Like you could see how some of
Speaker 3: the top people. It's like my first day at WWF.
Speaker 3: I've worked on indie shows with the rock in the past.
Speaker 3: So he's like, hey, you know, I'm like, I see
Speaker 3: you here, and I can see everybody looking at me.
Speaker 3: He invites me to eat lunch with that. I'm thinking
Speaker 3: of myself, this is the deal. This is gonna be
Speaker 3: a curse. They're going to be thinking, oh and sitting
Speaker 3: there lunch with them. Do you know that every I
Speaker 3: was on my back thinking like, oh, what is she
Speaker 3: going to try to do? Get with the rocks? So
Speaker 3: she did? You know how they think and like you
Speaker 3: could feel it like your backs like, oh, get off me.
Speaker 3: Oh it's just it's a shitty business in that way.
Speaker 3: You can't what.
Speaker 2: A shame that girls just get a reputation unearned. Yeah,
Speaker 2: keep the guy.
Speaker 3: I have had people say this with me when they
Speaker 3: never did, and I've confronted me too. I'm like, do
Speaker 3: you think I wouldn't remember if I ever I got
Speaker 3: First of all, you're not my type. I would never
Speaker 3: get near you. I said, so stop fucking telling people.
Speaker 3: I go, what do you get from telling people that?
Speaker 3: I'd like to know, what do you get? What? What's
Speaker 3: the thing? Because you didn't you didn't hit it.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. And then they do these shoot interviews and
Speaker 2: people hold their word like it's gospel, and it's just like, man, like,
Speaker 2: what what do you get out of making women look bad?
Speaker 3: You know? It's men, men or pigs that you guys
Speaker 3: are listening, but yeah, you do, like you don't care,
Speaker 3: like they just don't care. Say whatever comes out of
Speaker 3: the fucking mouth.
Speaker 2: Liked business, but it really.
Speaker 3: Is it is. I mean considering how like os, but
Speaker 3: it's really not an environment you really want to have
Speaker 3: your daughter around.
Speaker 2: No, I believe now it's changed yet, because like I
Speaker 2: remember we were going at the airport one morning and
Speaker 2: Brian Myers I had a headache. We drank way too
Speaker 2: much the night before and I was like, hey, my
Speaker 2: head hurts, and he goes, here, I have advil, and
Speaker 2: I go, are you sure you're not going to union?
Speaker 2: He goes, this isn't nineteen ninety six or whatever he said.
Speaker 2: He goes, we just don't video games now, we don't
Speaker 2: roofy girls. And it's like, right, you know.
Speaker 5: But they've got a human resources there, Like it's like if.
Speaker 3: Anybody complains, like and it's just crazy, it's like, I
Speaker 3: wwe with a human resources considering, you know all the
Speaker 3: shit that's going on over there.
Speaker 2: It's like, but it's it's a different generation generation. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think like the Me Too movement and all that,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys got scared and smartened
Speaker 2: up and they don't want to get canceled, and you
Speaker 2: would half time some of.
Speaker 3: Them, you know what happened to them the internet before
Speaker 3: you know, we'd have internets, we have cell phones, so
Speaker 3: you can get away with a lot of shit like that.
Speaker 3: Now you can't do shit like stuff on room athletes careers.
Speaker 3: But well I shouldn't be fucking doing that. If you don't,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be a million dollars, don't be stupid.
Speaker 2: We're lucky we didn't and have the Internet back then.
Speaker 3: Oh that's what I said. I go, oh my god,
Speaker 3: thank god. I think I would have it, like part
Speaker 3: of it, we probably would have made a lot more
Speaker 3: money in Benvert. But then the other part was like,
Speaker 3: oh god, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like if if the if the internet was strong
Speaker 2: back then, I think ECW could have been saved. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: because there were resources to you know, YouTube or fight
Speaker 2: TV or all this kind of stuff that pick up
Speaker 2: wrestling like we didn't have any other output to use.
Speaker 3: No you didn't.
Speaker 2: But the boys would have been condemned because of all
Speaker 2: the stuff that they did.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't even want to tell about I
Speaker 3: got to one time because I'm not saying any of
Speaker 3: somebody was smoking with their koochie and they're like, she said,
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it because Bob kat was in the room.
Speaker 3: They go get out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I thought that story. We had a girl who was
Speaker 2: interview interviewed with us, if you can call it an interview,
Speaker 2: and in the men's bathroom, lay down and suck a
Speaker 2: cigarette in her bus and started smoking it. And then
Speaker 2: Paus Mahoney runs out and was like, Sugarrette, work the
Speaker 2: forky river. And he's freaking out and he was running
Speaker 2: back and forth like this girl was like answer or something. Oh,
Speaker 2: And so I sat there and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's great. And then the girl comes up to me
Speaker 2: and she goes, I'm so sorry, uh if I embarrassed you?
Speaker 2: And I go, you embarrassed yourself a cigarette with your vagina.
Speaker 2: So you know, but like crazy stuff like that, I.
Speaker 3: Know, don't I don't know, like yeah, rats and all
Speaker 3: that stuff, like you've seen, We've seen all that crap, and.
Speaker 2: I've seen it all.
Speaker 3: It's city situations, like what do you do?
Speaker 2: I mean, because they didn't have them back then. So
Speaker 2: you know, you can be a schedule artist and draw
Speaker 2: a picture of what.
Speaker 3: You like, so now the play by play is.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, exactly what else did we do?
Speaker 2: What else? What other? I'm just thinking of like so
Speaker 2: many I remember, well, this was Atlanta center Stage. I
Speaker 2: think we were.
Speaker 3: At maybe the hotel.
Speaker 2: Well we did, we did the Remember there was a
Speaker 2: female show and then a male show and I was
Speaker 2: on both of them that night. And after we and
Speaker 2: you guys waited for me, and after we got done,
Speaker 2: we were all in our pajamas and we and I
Speaker 2: say to myself all the time like that, that was
Speaker 2: such a fun night.
Speaker 3: It was a great night.
Speaker 2: It was so fun because like nobody got like to
Speaker 2: the point where they you thought they were going.
Speaker 3: To die right now.
Speaker 2: But you know, we partied. But it wasn't like disgusting.
Speaker 3: No one got weird, got weird.
Speaker 2: Girlfriends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we stayed in the room, listened to stories.
Speaker 3: Like we didn't go hanging out like that. It was
Speaker 3: just we had so much fun in the hotels, like
Speaker 3: running around crazy.
Speaker 2: I remember a story about you.
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember another strike yours.
Speaker 2: Let me say you before I forget it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we were in Dallas, Texas. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 2: so I came with passion and we get we walk
Speaker 2: in the room and I put my bags down and
Speaker 2: she goes, oh, I'll just stay with you, and she
Speaker 2: puts her bags next to mine. And five minutes later
Speaker 2: you come walking in. Hey, and I'm like hey, and
Speaker 2: you go, whose bags are these? And she goes their mind. Pass,
Speaker 2: she goes their mind, and you know she's my I
Speaker 2: got friend, get your bags and get out. You guys
Speaker 2: almost fist fought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was gonna stay with me in the room.
Speaker 3: First of all, she invited herself there. Nobody said she
Speaker 3: could stay with us. And then she got mad, like
Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, just like your room. Get out.
Speaker 2: You guys almost threw punches. If between you, you guys
Speaker 2: would have fist fought.
Speaker 5: Oh fuck for sure.
Speaker 2: I said, look, i know I'm popular girls.
Speaker 3: But really we're fighting over you either. That's my bed,
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out.
Speaker 2: And then when we went to Chiller and I was
Speaker 2: pregnant and you were spooning me and I was hanging
Speaker 2: off the bed. You're like, I just want to cuddle,
Speaker 2: Please just hold me. I'm like, Sidney, I have no room.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm always had a cuddler. She's like,
Speaker 3: I think because you always cuddle me, mother you Oh
Speaker 3: my god, good time.
Speaker 2: April Hunter was with us and she was eating hard
Speaker 2: bold bangs and forty Yes, I'm dying.
Speaker 3: I gotta get my bino. That's what I get a
Speaker 3: lot of it.
Speaker 2: What's the story you remember?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, so remember I think this is when we're doing
Speaker 3: the Electric Factory for Women's Extreme Wrestling and Chris just died. Yes,
Speaker 3: and uh, you trying to be the great person that
Speaker 3: you are, like, well, let's help her because she's, you know,
Speaker 3: having a hard time. Tammy. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's a good idea. Never turns out good. And
Speaker 3: then you're like, no, we're gonna help her. So okay,
Speaker 3: what happens? We go and help her. She's there, and
Speaker 3: then she's supposed to drive us back to the hotel.
Speaker 3: Remember I do. So it's now dark. We're in the
Speaker 3: worst neighborhood possible. Like we I go that what happened?
Speaker 3: God was in our favorite because another couple of hours,
Speaker 3: her and I will probably never been seen again. And
Speaker 3: then I'm like, fucking Tammy, she I tell I'm meeling
Speaker 3: a friend. She's done it again. She's done it again,
Speaker 3: And like you what have me? Try to be good there?
Speaker 3: Look what she I thought. It's been a bad idea.
Speaker 3: And out of nowhere comes to Atlas Security, like god.
Speaker 2: Clay own car. Remember there we got to jump. There's
Speaker 2: eight people in the I know, and I remember, wait,
Speaker 2: we were in our gimmick outfits. Yes, Hans in parking
Speaker 2: lot at like twelve thirtyth.
Speaker 3: Night, no ride, I'm out of nowhere. Comes at with
Speaker 3: security and we're like, oh, he goes, what are you
Speaker 3: girls doing out here? I go Sonny was supposed to
Speaker 3: pickus up there and they start laughing. Then somebody so
Speaker 3: that same night, somebody had she wind up in Jersey
Speaker 3: in the hospital. Some night she had left with the
Speaker 3: DJ way to good Tammy, thank you for looking out
Speaker 3: for your friends.
Speaker 2: Breaks my heart, though.
Speaker 5: I know you're such a I don't know she's done
Speaker 5: it for herself though I know you.
Speaker 2: Don't want to hear it, but I believe me, I
Speaker 2: know it. This is me off, but it breaks my heart.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but she has so many chances. And
Speaker 3: if she wasn't such a she's not even a nice person.
Speaker 3: She's like so mean to fucking people. So you know
Speaker 3: how she is like the world begins and ends around her.
Speaker 3: It's all I know.
Speaker 2: Is that night. That's the night that they found her
Speaker 2: in the graveyard.
Speaker 5: Yep, in Jersey, walking around right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a Jersey yeah, because.
Speaker 2: One of the guys where Christmas buried.
Speaker 3: It was in Jersey. But I don't think it was
Speaker 3: for Christmas buried.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. They just found her in a graveyard
Speaker 2: with her car on the side. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: broke my heart. I just anyway, Yeah, we didn't have
Speaker 2: a ride, and we were in our gimmick outfits, which
Speaker 2: was worse.
Speaker 4: I like to do.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Security didn't come running, like coming
Speaker 3: down like that. And then remember what's his face? Steve
Speaker 3: Dangela comes running down there? Way remember that.
Speaker 2: Clark because I know, like Ronnie's laps.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. They were like and then it's like
Speaker 3: it's Stephen diangel I know, just slides on, lays over
Speaker 3: everybody in the back. They were like, I'm like, don't worry.
Speaker 3: They would have gave him back, they would have kept up.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. We had such good times. I'm trying.
Speaker 2: There are so many stories that are just crisscrossing in
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 3: I know, it's like because you think about one thing,
Speaker 3: then another, then like who this person and that person. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just like so many things like well, perfect example
Speaker 3: the one where we got thrown out of the hotel
Speaker 3: because of the it was they had put a bunch
Speaker 3: of crazy wrestlers in a hotel with a bunch of
Speaker 3: people church. They were going to some big church event. Yes,
Speaker 3: remember what fucking we were up all night and fucking
Speaker 3: what's your face? Comes in like it's Greek uh ronica.
Speaker 3: She matches the plate on the floor. I go, what
Speaker 3: do you Greek? And then uh, we're loud and we're
Speaker 3: hanging out or whatever. So it's in the morning, so
Speaker 3: we didn't have to be there till at night in
Speaker 3: the building in the morning and Amy Lee and I
Speaker 3: were a room together. I think, I don't know who
Speaker 3: else a bunch of people worried there. But anyway, the
Speaker 3: phone rings, and so the Ferston The other is, how
Speaker 3: do you like it? How do you like being woken up?
Speaker 3: She goes, you know what I'm doing right now? I'm
Speaker 3: fucking stay.
Speaker 4: In the room.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's why. Yes, And then like yeah, and she's
Speaker 3: like I'm fuck it, stay and like I'll never forget
Speaker 3: that then that remember that they go. They asked us
Speaker 3: never to come back. Way to go.
Speaker 5: Girls got great fucking skills.
Speaker 6: But I remember you and I going uh to some
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was a mall, and we
Speaker 6: bought matching outfits and we did the the golf.
Speaker 2: We were caddies golf caddy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes, we were caddies for Oh my god.
Speaker 3: That was hilarious.
Speaker 2: The same we bought a Playboy white tank top that
Speaker 2: said play.
Speaker 3: Play Boy didn't have likedy short and we had a
Speaker 3: little cap on. We were like, so much fun, we're
Speaker 3: gonna Makenny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. He was the only one who
Speaker 2: was serious about keeping scoring.
Speaker 3: You. Yeah, I was like it, we're here to have fun.
Speaker 3: Do you think they hired us to play? Did he discurb?
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I didn't get to stay with you
Speaker 2: because remember the man requested me and I had to
Speaker 2: go with him, and you guys left me, so I
Speaker 2: had to like, I don't know, I was keeping scoring.
Speaker 2: He gave me like a hundred bucks. That was my tip?
Speaker 2: Was that good? I don't even know. No, I got wrobed.
Speaker 3: You got rob like, yeah, we go past some of them.
Speaker 3: The other girls are like wiggling their butts and ship
Speaker 3: I was cracking up.
Speaker 2: Showing their boobs. I was like, what is happening up?
Speaker 3: And I was just like, Oh, the guys that we
Speaker 3: went to I already knew them so and it was
Speaker 3: my other friend that went with us. We knew them, right,
Speaker 3: That's why they picked us. And then we were just
Speaker 3: they weren't even really golfing. They were just partying on
Speaker 3: the thing and we're having fun. But we slept at
Speaker 3: my ex's father in law's house. Member my ex father
Speaker 3: in law. I loved him. He passed away though. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: he was such a great guy. Like that's so crazy.
Speaker 3: Like me and Mark still lived together. He was in
Speaker 3: the other room. I was saying, in his dad's house
Speaker 3: until I was ready to move.
Speaker 2: Good relationships, and.
Speaker 3: Right I'm still friends with him, Like right now he's
Speaker 3: sponsoring our burlesting talk about that.
Speaker 2: Talk about all right. First of all, people, if you
Speaker 2: don't know, Cindy has like forty two different jobs, all
Speaker 2: this like crazy stuff to talk about the burlesque.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm just we have a I have a
Speaker 3: burlesque troop.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It started out when I was in other people's burless
Speaker 3: troops in Louisville, and it was fun. And like I
Speaker 3: do fans and I do wings and billy dancing and
Speaker 3: all that stuff. And I have now I have a
Speaker 3: kind of friends. And now my one friend she is
Speaker 3: a drag king, which I never even heard of it
Speaker 3: until her because she heard a dragon king, a drag king,
Speaker 3: like she's doing a series. They're making a series right now,
Speaker 3: making up a drag king. And I'm just picking up
Speaker 3: their clothes.
Speaker 2: With the woman that dresses like a man man.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they're so talented. They get like they don't
Speaker 3: get enough credit for something. You know, some of them
Speaker 3: look real because you'd be like, oh, I'm strangely I'm
Speaker 3: attracted to you, Like like god, I keep reminding yourself
Speaker 3: that's a girl. That's a girl.
Speaker 2: Are they doing like like a show, Like.
Speaker 3: Are they dances just like the drag queens do it?
Speaker 3: They do it, they live, sing and then they dress
Speaker 3: like their characters. I mean, some of them are freaking amazing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so my friend Shane's doing it. She's Shane West,
Speaker 3: that's her drag name, and we just call her Shane
Speaker 3: anyway to me, she's I know, she's my friend girl,
Speaker 3: but I always think of her as a dude, and
Speaker 3: she's doing that right now. So anyway, we did that,
Speaker 3: and then I decided to do this thing at OVW
Speaker 3: monto go go with al That's one I've learned. I
Speaker 3: would never want to work with Aligan in my life.
Speaker 3: So we're doing that with all the performers. Alice treating
Speaker 3: these performers, these girls like they're fucking wrestlers, Like you
Speaker 3: can't talk to that way because they start crying and thing.
Speaker 3: Then one girl starts she's doing fire fans and then
Speaker 3: she's given al a hard time. I'm like, as I'm
Speaker 3: talking to him that way, and he goes, where am
Speaker 3: I going to find another flower performer? He goes, oh,
Speaker 3: there's one right behind you. And his like retarded friend
Speaker 3: Barry was the MC. I was like, oh, I go
Speaker 3: never he was like trying to hit on all the chicks.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well never again, never again?
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 3: It just because he just he was running. It was
Speaker 3: wrestling in burlesque is going back and forth. So the
Speaker 3: wrestling was cheesy. That was easy, like they had all gimmicks,
Speaker 3: you know, and then it would have done really good.
Speaker 3: But like the stress from Alan all that. I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to work with you again.
Speaker 2: Wait is this before you were married?
Speaker 3: No, we were married at this.
Speaker 2: We're married at the time.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh now no new, no new. So
Speaker 3: then after that, like I I was doing, then I went,
Speaker 3: I moved after I divorced, I moved to Nashville, and
Speaker 3: then I was working with Nashville Burlesque, which I still
Speaker 3: work with them too, so we kind of piggyback off
Speaker 3: each other, like they do my shoes, I do their shows. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they're great. I love those girls there. They're really good.
Speaker 3: And some of them are like you know, they're aeralists,
Speaker 3: they're all, I mean, so talented.
Speaker 2: My one friend cheaper sucklet right.
Speaker 3: And then my one friend, no, it is my one friend.
Speaker 5: She's like she does she's stables what do you call that?
Speaker 3: Bizarre stuff? Or she's gorgeous. She's like she's a model
Speaker 3: from England and she does like she stepped on glass
Speaker 3: like side show stuff. Oh I know, and she's so
Speaker 3: and it's like yeah, so it's like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's really really good, Like I mean, it's fun,
Speaker 3: slight hearted.
Speaker 2: And you sell tickets. Do you have like a website?
Speaker 3: I usually we'll do my an event right or okay,
Speaker 3: And usually usually I have a page Wango Tango, and
Speaker 3: then I also have like I'll always post them on
Speaker 3: my Facebook page and stuff, and we have them. We
Speaker 3: should be had one coming up here in Louisville soon.
Speaker 3: We did the Elvis tribute show, so we're gonna do
Speaker 3: it again. They want us to do it again, so yeah,
Speaker 3: and then that's you know, there's that and then what
Speaker 3: was the other? Oh, and also doing a movie. Actually
Speaker 3: I'm directing my first movie too, so that it's called
Speaker 3: but Tenders but Tenders bud, but but Tenders is a
Speaker 3: good name to know, but.
Speaker 2: The Tenders okay, and then.
Speaker 3: Uh, Jeremy London's in it. I'm gonna play two smaller parts,
Speaker 3: like change characters like I did it last time. Like
Speaker 3: the other movie, I was an E. M. T. And
Speaker 3: then the next thing, I was a bartender. I worked
Speaker 3: wigs and changed my hair and stuff I got. I
Speaker 3: wonder if it's gonna catch on it like covered my tet.
Speaker 3: It's pretty funny. So yeah, and we're gonna be doing
Speaker 3: that in August.
Speaker 2: So okay, so let me ask you a questions. So
Speaker 2: when you do stuff like that, how do you obtain
Speaker 2: a budget? Well, your only London is an actor, like
Speaker 2: your actor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they go ahead. They have investors, like the
Speaker 3: people that they have investors and stuff like, they're the
Speaker 3: ones that are going to get to us doing our
Speaker 3: running diva show too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll be in an upcoming film of uh you
Speaker 2: are my husband, lets me.
Speaker 3: Go listen you kiss me. You have to be in
Speaker 3: it because it would not be the same.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well we'll see.
Speaker 3: I wrote the way I wrote it was that part
Speaker 3: is you like, there's no one else can play you now,
Speaker 3: the first part yeah we could do.
Speaker 2: But well and then the.
Speaker 3: Shannon but you know recipe Shannon m hm. So yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah that's another hard thing, Shannon. Like I know you
Speaker 3: were really really close with Shannon. Oh god, yeah, horrible thing,
Speaker 3: Like it was awful, Like I just saw like the
Speaker 3: and I talked to her not too long ago, like
Speaker 3: you know, she was in a really bad place and
Speaker 3: I told her she can come live here with me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, why don't you if you're lonely out there?
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, why don't you come up here?
Speaker 3: I go, well, I mean even I got all these clothes,
Speaker 3: here I go. We'll put all that stuff into words
Speaker 3: and you can come have the other room.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I mean she she was working for
Speaker 2: an elderly couple. She was taking care of the man
Speaker 2: like a caregiver. Yeah, and she they wanted her to
Speaker 2: move in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't.
Speaker 2: And I was telling and she's like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I should do it, and I was like, do it.
Speaker 2: A change would be good for you, you know, And.
Speaker 3: She just got so depressed, and especially her because you know,
Speaker 3: she was always about her body and stuff, and like,
Speaker 3: you know, she gained all that's our injuries. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: that's just life that happens.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm lonely, but she was lonely.
Speaker 2: She didn't kind of, you know, the support she needed
Speaker 2: from certain people. I'm not gonna, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to, but no, no, no, But you know, so many
Speaker 2: times when she came to stay with me, she just
Speaker 2: would look around and she would say, this is what
Speaker 2: I want. And I remember her saying, I don't even
Speaker 2: need to have a house as nice as yours. I
Speaker 2: just want my own home with a man who loves
Speaker 2: me and you know that's it. And I just kept
Speaker 2: telling you're going to get it. You know you'll get it,
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 3: Would get it if you know, if you want it,
Speaker 3: you'd throw it out in a universe to it. But
Speaker 3: she had such her soul, like you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: She just had demons. She was fighting, absolutely got it.
Speaker 2: I do. I miss her every time the phone would ring,
Speaker 2: like I had to pick it up, and like we'd
Speaker 2: be on the phone for like two three hours and
Speaker 2: she would just cry.
Speaker 3: She never was like that with me. It was very
Speaker 3: upbeat with me. But I think she trusted you more
Speaker 3: in that way than me. But yeah, every time I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, it was always kind of like
Speaker 3: let's go, yeah, you know, like Poo who was kind
Speaker 3: of cheerleading kind of thing. But I think she could
Speaker 3: tell you her real feelings where she couldn't do that
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I just I just wanted to be there for her
Speaker 2: as much as I could.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, honestly, none of us really knew, like
Speaker 5: who knew?
Speaker 3: Like I talked to her about too long ago and
Speaker 3: she said she was gonna go get that job. And
Speaker 3: then when she after she moved in. Nobody heard from her,
Speaker 3: nobody kne where she was.
Speaker 2: I think she just wanted to. She had this planned,
Speaker 2: she had everything out for a while, and she wanted
Speaker 2: to the way I thought of it, she just wanted
Speaker 2: to cut the people that she loved out of the
Speaker 2: equation because it would hurt too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she knows that we'd be like, don't do
Speaker 3: it like coming oh, twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: She knows so many times I told her, I know,
Speaker 2: do you know?
Speaker 3: The thing is, most people that really do commence this
Speaker 3: suicide do it like she did it, Like my friend
Speaker 3: did that too. We knew nothing, like you know, she
Speaker 3: wasn't a person who goes, I'm going to kill myself.
Speaker 3: She just did it, you know what I mean. She
Speaker 3: didn't even try for a cry for help with that
Speaker 3: means neither Chanon really. We knew she had demons, but
Speaker 3: she always felt like she was going to get better.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Well that's not necessarily true though, because she would tell
Speaker 2: me she she wanted to end it. She never said
Speaker 2: that to me though, Yeah, oh yeah, she And that's
Speaker 2: why when I would always pick up because I'm like,
Speaker 2: if I don't and something happens, I will, I will feel.
Speaker 3: You don't figure. Yeah, it's awful, just you know.
Speaker 2: And so I tried tried to be there, tried to
Speaker 2: be there, and it was just she had too much
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like, well, you know, if it was me,
Speaker 5: you'd been like, what you want some help?
Speaker 2: I would have did the same thing for you.
Speaker 3: You'd be like, what do you do?
Speaker 2: You want to help me?
Speaker 3: Right over? It's a cross the street, not down the block.
Speaker 2: Well, I told her, if you know, if she lived closer,
Speaker 2: that would have helped. But she was all the way
Speaker 2: in Atlanta and that's like a hike.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just didn't know why she never wanted to leave Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Well she well she did. She went to Florida and
Speaker 2: then she bounced back and back, and you know it
Speaker 2: was just listen. You girls to me were like sisters,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, it's so far and and so
Speaker 2: God forbid if any of you were in trouble, I would.
Speaker 3: Always be you know that I'm here to get you
Speaker 3: in trouble. You know.
Speaker 2: Nowadays it's like, uh, I'm in mom mood. You know
Speaker 2: it's hard to lose.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, I know the mommy mood.
Speaker 2: And you're like, I tell everybody. I'm like, listen, I
Speaker 2: don't drink at home. I don't curse in front of
Speaker 2: my kids, Like I don't know, but when I'm on
Speaker 2: the road, I'll take a fireball.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think I feel this way. Kids
Speaker 3: kids are going to find out that stuff anyway. So
Speaker 3: why ruin their youth when they don't you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: they're gonna find out that shit anyway when they go
Speaker 3: to school or you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You don't want them?
Speaker 3: Why not? Right? Like why I hear from you from
Speaker 3: your parents?
Speaker 2: Like if you if you see and I mean no
Speaker 2: offense to anybody that has a kid that does this,
Speaker 2: that's listening. But when I see a little a little
Speaker 2: kid walking around this that, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: Like what kind of household is like that? I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I just find that just offensive. What a little
Speaker 2: yeah work exactly.
Speaker 3: And I was just saying that today kids are really
Speaker 3: truthful and like if you point, like, if you really
Speaker 3: want to know how you look, ask a little kid,
Speaker 3: because they'll give you an honestly, don't ask your friends.
Speaker 3: Don't ask a little kid.
Speaker 2: My son will look at me and he'll go, Mom,
Speaker 2: you got a little gray. Right, Yeah, you got this,
Speaker 2: you got that. I'm like, dude, I get it here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks for telling me, mirror, he's my mirror.
Speaker 3: What you need to do because I love you anyway,
Speaker 3: I go.
Speaker 2: I know you do. And that's that's perfect. You know,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 5: They're getting so big, it's so good looking.
Speaker 2: Ugh, they're they're both taller than I am.
Speaker 5: Now, dude, Well, Joe's pretty tall too.
Speaker 2: He's six three and a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's very tall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big dude.
Speaker 5: He's a very big jode. Yeah, you got yourself a
Speaker 5: good one, Fanny.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: And I'm very happy and you're happy.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 2: I want you to come here.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: You know I will move in. Don't worry. No, You're
Speaker 3: like I said come here, and I say no, I
Speaker 3: said visit, visit that day.
Speaker 2: You know my door is always open up. We've been
Speaker 2: trying to plan something since I got married, and you
Speaker 2: have never been in the mindt.
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen. I'm gonna get home. I'm going to
Speaker 3: be like that movie me you and de pre.
Speaker 2: No for well, I know you work. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: I have a problem. I can I have it like
Speaker 3: I haven't. Like it's hard to like, didn't do so
Speaker 3: much shit, And every time I take off, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like screaming.
Speaker 5: I want to go on vacation, vacation, and I haven't
Speaker 5: even been able to do that.
Speaker 2: I would love to do a girl's vacation.
Speaker 5: I think we should do a cruise because I know
Speaker 5: already have some really cool cruises.
Speaker 2: I can't do cruises. I get sick.
Speaker 3: They were one of those patchy things.
Speaker 2: No, no, Remember when I had my surgery and they
Speaker 2: put the patch on my ear and I left it
Speaker 2: there for eleven days and I was hallucinating. Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: my god, my pupils were like this big in my eyes.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get it.
Speaker 4: I was terrible.
Speaker 3: I will never wear Sure, what wasn't that patch that
Speaker 3: he gave me. Sure wasn't a pain patch?
Speaker 2: And you're only supposed to wear it for no more
Speaker 2: than like three days, And I had it on my
Speaker 2: ear for eleven days.
Speaker 3: Why just keep it on for a lot.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me to take it off, my daughter,
Speaker 2: because I was getting nauseous from the pills from the surgery.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And I left it there and I finally said, you
Speaker 2: know what, maybe I should start to take the patch off.
Speaker 2: It was like I was, you know, going through withdraws
Speaker 2: or something. It was the worst. Oh my god, ask everybody.
Speaker 2: It was the worst. I know I told you because
Speaker 2: it was after the Yeah, I was bugging in.
Speaker 5: But I'm still but still like, we'll make sure you
Speaker 5: take it off after three days and then.
Speaker 2: Cruises don't get sick. Can't we just go to a
Speaker 2: resort or something?
Speaker 3: We could do that be fun.
Speaker 2: I would like to just stay and you know what,
Speaker 2: Atlantic City, come to Atlantic City.
Speaker 3: I was like, even did Jamaica? He they're so cheap now,
Speaker 3: like to do those things three days and four nights?
Speaker 2: What you need a passport?
Speaker 3: I think? Well, do you guys have the true idea
Speaker 3: up there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah you have that. I think you're good with the
Speaker 3: true ID.
Speaker 2: I do have it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah you could, you could. You don't have a passport?
Speaker 2: It expired.
Speaker 3: Inspired I was gonna say, you course have yeah, you
Speaker 3: should always have that on having it, I mean, that's
Speaker 3: why my why do you think my last name is
Speaker 3: still still Starvin?
Speaker 2: Because Arvin?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't get into your marriage and everything. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: you'll come back later.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's another fun, fun, fun story. Well, most
Speaker 3: people follow on internet like whoa, we cannot we can discuss.
Speaker 3: That's a story, that's a book in itself.
Speaker 2: That it is a book, that is that is.
Speaker 3: I don't regret one little thing of it.
Speaker 2: Good good for you don't regrets.
Speaker 3: No, And actually he did me a favor because I'm
Speaker 3: I didn't even know how miserable I was. I'm so
Speaker 3: much happier and I've got my own stuff and it's great.
Speaker 3: I don't have to listen to anybody or anything. You
Speaker 3: don't mean like do anything.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of stuff going on. Well, I
Speaker 2: want people, especially in like the Louisville, Kentucky area, if
Speaker 2: you're interested in anything that Cindy has to offer. We
Speaker 2: go to her Facebook page. It's what is it on?
Speaker 3: I'm not on the home train anymore for she can't.
Speaker 2: Help you out, but she's got to offer. And you're
Speaker 2: still doing wrestling stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do stuff like yeah, convention and stuff.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you're gonna be at the gathering.
Speaker 3: Oh I had to cancel it because of the film.
Speaker 2: Did you had to?
Speaker 3: Because it's like we were actually doing some script reading
Speaker 3: and going over locations. I had to be there, like
Speaker 3: I can't, you know, saying good to know. I love
Speaker 3: you know, doing those things because are always fun and
Speaker 3: I always got a lot of good stories. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's one of these. I had to go that one
Speaker 3: because actually I'm under contract with the other one.
Speaker 2: All right, well that's good to know. I'm kind of
Speaker 2: glad you're not going anyway. But he's good.
Speaker 3: Like when I see what I had to look at,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: Like, what's your Facebook page?
Speaker 3: Snow?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Also, I have a TikTok page.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: Instagram.
Speaker 2: Okay. I never used following each other on anything.
Speaker 3: Why I don't know, Like we used to on Twitter
Speaker 3: then I had it but all the time, but I know,
Speaker 3: why is it X? Now? I haven't done that right now?
Speaker 2: Where are you on Instagram? Why aren't we following each other?
Speaker 3: Nose?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Listen, I started doing Instagram and I started doing because
Speaker 3: I never did. All I did was Facebook.
Speaker 2: So now mm hmm, I'm going to find you. Okay,
Speaker 2: we have to find Why would you not follow me?
Speaker 3: I don't because I really don't get on there. What
Speaker 3: are you on TikTok?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just started TikTok me too, so we'll find
Speaker 2: each other. And I don't really like I don't do
Speaker 2: the TikTok.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, if you do it, you can send them
Speaker 3: to all three pages. So if this way, like I
Speaker 3: try to set them up, like if I do, go
Speaker 3: to Instagram. This way, you don't have to say repost
Speaker 3: it because if people don't follow on Facebook or you know,
Speaker 3: any Instagram or do do TikTok, at least you get
Speaker 3: it all three because.
Speaker 2: Some people TikTok though. Chad my co host.
Speaker 3: Oh Chad good, hello, where are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But I g I do X I do and he
Speaker 3: does the Facebook page too, but yeah, yeah, I have
Speaker 3: to get this one too. And also to if you
Speaker 3: want some really good tattoo t shirts, nomad Ink will
Speaker 3: be on the site modeling them for you to see
Speaker 3: and what. They're really cool. Actually I like them. I'm like,
Speaker 3: can I have these? They're really cool? And I love you.
Speaker 3: You don't want you don't I don't know, you don't
Speaker 3: want to get into other stuff yet.
Speaker 2: Well we've been talking an hour. Just flew by because
Speaker 2: you know it's great.
Speaker 3: I know we'll do it. I'll come back on again
Speaker 3: and we'll just do part two. Waitmen, heaby on Valentine
Speaker 3: Kiddaline date.
Speaker 2: Let me just scratch the surface, because you and I
Speaker 2: have been through so much and I know there's more
Speaker 2: stories than I think about, some stuff to talk about,
Speaker 2: but that I was just going off the top of
Speaker 2: my head with you tonight, so me too.
Speaker 3: And then there's other stuff that we both like we
Speaker 3: knew other stories or whatever, and like, yeah, we can
Speaker 3: go on so much more good and.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah we'll come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah we'll call I'll come back and we'll have the gossip. Yeah, stuff,
Speaker 3: the juicy stuff.
Speaker 2: Everyone here, so well, listen, I love you forever.
Speaker 3: You know that too.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can see each other.
Speaker 3: Wait, like, even when I couldn't meet you, because remember
Speaker 3: any invited to this slumber party not.
Speaker 2: Naming any names, slumber party you have.
Speaker 3: From E c W.
Speaker 5: You went over a certain person's house and then I
Speaker 5: didn get invited.
Speaker 2: Why was that? She didn't like you?
Speaker 3: Right, No, she didn't want me to meet you.
Speaker 2: Well we can talk about that.
Speaker 5: Again, Yes, you can get well, we know what you
Speaker 5: how it worked out.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, you and I are still together, so screw everybody,
Speaker 2: all right, So, sweetie, I'm going to talk to you,
Speaker 2: but good luck with everything. If anybody wants to follow
Speaker 2: her or find her anywhere, look up Cindy snow, Ventriloquists, Juggler,
Speaker 2: A lot of.
Speaker 3: You do it.
Speaker 2: You know all this crazy stuff, and thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love it. I you for sure.
Speaker 2: We'll do that. Well, we will do it again for me.
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