WEBVTT - Is There A Solution To Teaching Black History If Removed From Schools Curriculum?

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<v Speaker 1>It's topic time.

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<v Speaker 2>So eight hundred and five five one five one to

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<v Speaker 2>join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning everybody, It's DJ Envy Charlamagne de God. We are

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<v Speaker 3>the Breakfast Club now if you're just joining us. We

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about something in Front Page News earlier today.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the fact that Florida Border Education approves new

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<v Speaker 3>Black history standards that teach house slaves develop skills for

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<v Speaker 3>their personal benefit. So we were talking about, since they're

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<v Speaker 3>pulling pretty much Black history out of schools now and

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<v Speaker 3>pulling out the books and don't want to teach Black history,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we need to do as a community to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that our young kids actually know what went

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<v Speaker 3>on in black history and the future generation and how

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<v Speaker 3>do we educate them?

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<v Speaker 4>That was the question that we were having this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, like I said earlier, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't depend on white institutions to teach teach our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that is something the Nation of Islam and

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<v Speaker 2>other great black leaders have been telling us since the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of time. For me, I feel like we just

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<v Speaker 2>got to encourage our kids to read. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to recommend books for them to read. I was

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<v Speaker 2>blessed to have a mother who was a Jehovah's witness

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<v Speaker 2>and an English teacher, so you know, she kept the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible in my face and watched Howers and Awake.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the first little child was exposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we had the book at program when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid in elementary school and I was reading four

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<v Speaker 2>books to get a free pizza, and my mom told

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<v Speaker 2>me read things that don't pertain to you. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>I started reading Julie Bloom and Beverly Clearly and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. And then my pops, you know, he gave

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<v Speaker 2>me books like the Autobiography of Malcolm X, which led

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<v Speaker 2>me down a rabbit hole of wanting to know everything

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<v Speaker 2>I could about the NI But also any book that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Malcolm X reference, I read it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And I've always done that.

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<v Speaker 2>If I read a book and then they reference another

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<v Speaker 2>book in that book, then I'll go read, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that book. That's why I thought, you know, when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like Nipsey Hustle was alive, you know, he was so

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant because Nipsey would always reference different books in his interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Nipsey Hustle even had a booklest that he put out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I think that's that's what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do. You just got to encourage, you know, our

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<v Speaker 2>kids to read and recommend them things to read.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I said earlier that I think we need to develop

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<v Speaker 3>more program like even in the church, right, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of black families go to church together and have those

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<v Speaker 3>days where we teach about our black history and black heroes.

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<v Speaker 3>But also I think as parents, I think parents need

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<v Speaker 3>to knowledge themselves, you know, because it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 3>teach your child if you don't have the proper history.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like anything else. Like you know, my father's a

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<v Speaker 3>retired police officer. He was able to teach me laws

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid and teach me about just

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<v Speaker 3>things as far as you know, what to do if

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<v Speaker 3>I get pulled over what laws mean and how the

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<v Speaker 3>judicial system works, because he was part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Same thing with my kids.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a daughter that's in the school, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in college right now for real estate and just past

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<v Speaker 3>or exam. I have a son that is doing real

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<v Speaker 3>estate now and sold his first house. But like these

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<v Speaker 3>are things that they learned from their father. But like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, I think we have to educate ourselves so

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<v Speaker 3>we can actually educate our children, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>with Black history that I'm still learning now because I

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<v Speaker 3>honestly wasn't taught as a child.

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<v Speaker 2>I envy people who've gone to African American studies, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love the way, you know, somebody like

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<v Speaker 2>an Amanda Seals can just reference history so quickly, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like a Michael Eric Dyson, and you know, we know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know the literacy race in black and brown communities

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<v Speaker 2>are high.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's actually why Kevin Hart and I started our

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<v Speaker 2>company with Audible SBAH Production, because you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes it's not that kids aren't reading, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>other ways for them to get that information.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of reading nowadays, people are listening, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I always had the idea of even

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<v Speaker 2>though we did put out you know, finding to me

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<v Speaker 2>because some of it, some of the eighty five, some

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<v Speaker 2>of eighty five is about you know, what happened the

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<v Speaker 2>move organization in Philadelphia. But I always thought that kids,

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<v Speaker 2>always thought that kids could take in this information by listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my train of thought. Just now, how the

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<v Speaker 1>hell I lost my train of.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought, like, oh, I was saying, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>that kids can learn, you know, more more by listening

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<v Speaker 2>now than actually picking up books and reading.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I wanted celebrity, That's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted celebrities to do the audiobooks, right. That that

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<v Speaker 2>was an I then we had when we launched this company,

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<v Speaker 2>have celebrities reading audiobooks, right, And you know, Audible kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took the idea and they had launce Fishburn READAUGHTERI

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<v Speaker 2>bigraphy of Malcolm X.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's fine as long as it happens, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But but you know what too, And I would also

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<v Speaker 4>say this for a lot of parents.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times we take our kids to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on vacation, and vacation can mean many different things from

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<v Speaker 3>many different people. It can mean taking them to six Flags,

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<v Speaker 3>it can mean taking them to Miami for Disney World

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. And I think sometimes and that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 3>we we're gonna have to think of alternative things to do,

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<v Speaker 3>like going to somebody experiences, right, but like going to museums,

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<v Speaker 3>like the museum that just opened up in South Carolina, one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's opened up in DC. And even when in South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 4>I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to because there's so much history, right you

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<v Speaker 3>learn that's where you know a lot of that's where

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<v Speaker 3>the first ships came that a lot of us, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>touch touched down on on this land. So I would learn.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to learn that history. I've been fortunate

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<v Speaker 3>enough to go to Africa and fortunate enough to go

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<v Speaker 3>to South Africa and see these different places that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from where from where Bob Marley was in Jamaica to

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<v Speaker 3>where uh to think of some of the houses that

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<v Speaker 3>we went to over there, so many different houses.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with that, and you're absolutely right what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>but just speaking from a person who has the financial means.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But that's what I'm saying, Like instead of maybe

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<v Speaker 3>going to six Flags, going to the museum, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>there's museum that prices are not that expensive. They're ten

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<v Speaker 3>dollars for a ticket, and I'm sure a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times they do it for free just to teach our

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<v Speaker 3>own but just experiences like that that we can actually see,

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<v Speaker 3>touch and get the proper knowlogy.

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<v Speaker 2>How about your how about do something as simple as

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<v Speaker 2>go get a library card. That's true, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, go get a library card and then go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look up some books to go get. I

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<v Speaker 2>always tell people all the time. Start with the autobiography

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<v Speaker 2>of Malcolm X. There's a great book that I read

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, called from n Words to Gods,

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<v Speaker 2>Buy and Kill. And the way that he wrote the book,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote the book the way we actually talk, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So it was like he's cursing

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<v Speaker 2>it and he's using street banacular, right, but he's educating

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 2>everything don't have to be eighteen letter Shakespearean words.

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<v Speaker 1>Right for you to learn.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was able to go to Nelson Mandela's house.

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<v Speaker 3>I was able to go to where Nelson Mandela grew up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was able to see it. But I had

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<v Speaker 3>to He used to do it, but before I had

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<v Speaker 3>the means, my mom had me and those museums. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>go to the phone lines. We got Jamisha on the line, Jamisha,

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<v Speaker 3>good morning, good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 6>Jamisha, Hey god, I want a first day that I

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<v Speaker 6>love you guys and I listen to you guys every morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Jamisiha. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, so I just wanted to time in and just

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<v Speaker 6>give my advice. I ain't on thirty seven, just to

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<v Speaker 6>give you guys the idea of where I'm coming from.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a mom of a threeting boy, and I tried

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<v Speaker 6>to just share stories with him because the literature out

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<v Speaker 6>there is not very fun for the kids to read

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<v Speaker 6>or interstite. So I feel like it starts at home.

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<v Speaker 6>We as the parents have to be encouraged to learn

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<v Speaker 6>it so that we could spend simply verbally share those

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<v Speaker 6>stories with our kids, so that hopefully when they get older,

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<v Speaker 6>they'll read those stories or watch those movies that we

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<v Speaker 6>watched when we got older, or sometimes when we were

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<v Speaker 6>given younger and we didn't understand what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally agree.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree that it's I just feel like it starts there.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally agree. All right, thank you. I totally agree starts

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<v Speaker 1>in the house.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, who's this Jerry? Hey, Jerry, good on and talk

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<v Speaker 4>to us. What's your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to say fun because I just want my

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<v Speaker 7>child's father some of them, but I think we have

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<v Speaker 7>to meet kids where they are. There's like so many

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<v Speaker 7>social media acts TikTok and stuff like that. I feel

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<v Speaker 7>like maybe artists in different acts or just different people

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<v Speaker 7>in the media in general should start maybe relaying Black

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<v Speaker 7>history facts that way where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, but you do realize on TikTok one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest uh things on TikTok, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>you call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's book talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it's a hashtash tag book talk, bok halshtag, book talk,

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<v Speaker 2>like like even when I'm putting out books, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on my own or through my d like these these

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<v Speaker 2>these public these barns and Nobles and Time and his shoes,

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<v Speaker 2>they always talk about book talk. They want book talk

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking about their books because it's so big.

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<v Speaker 2>So these kids are having these conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and those are the conversations that I love. And

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<v Speaker 3>let's open up the phone lines again. Eight hundred five

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<v Speaker 3>eight five one oh five to one. What are some

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<v Speaker 3>suggestions to better educate future generations on black history? That

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<v Speaker 3>is the question. And I just want to say one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, sometimes you know, what's that? What's the saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes your your your skin folk and your kim folk skin.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason I say that is because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times I see people trying to educate and people

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing they say is, oh, it's a lie,

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<v Speaker 3>like and I remember when you started talking mental health, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and people.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, he's just doing it for a check. He

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't really care it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That and he ever, I got nothing from it. And

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<v Speaker 3>this man has has gave up his is I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to give up his life. But he's put his

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<v Speaker 3>life in books to explain and to see how he's felt,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's done so many things.

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<v Speaker 4>And the same thing with me and trying to teach

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<v Speaker 4>people about real estate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when we try to do these things, we

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<v Speaker 3>try to really put on for our community so that

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<v Speaker 3>we can learn to get the education that we didn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're not saying that we know everything, but we

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<v Speaker 3>just want to open the door for you guys to

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<v Speaker 3>start reading, to start doing research on these things, to

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<v Speaker 3>start asking questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to ask questions. That's all we want. And we'll

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<v Speaker 4>take your calls when we come back. It's the Breakast

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<v Speaker 4>Club the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's topic times.

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<v Speaker 5>Called eight hundred and five eight five five one to

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<v Speaker 5>join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club, talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Warning Everybody's DJ Envy Charlamagne the God.

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<v Speaker 4>We are the breakfast club.

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<v Speaker 3>Now if you're just joining us, This conversation comes from

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<v Speaker 3>Front Page News. Now, Florida Border Education approves new black

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<v Speaker 3>history standards that teach how slaves develop skills for their

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<v Speaker 3>personal benefit. So obviously they're trying to take our black

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<v Speaker 3>history out of the school system. And we're asking, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the solution. You know, how can we change that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I already told you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can't depend on white institutions to teach

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<v Speaker 2>your kids, you know what I mean, Like, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to start encouraging our kids to read, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>to recommend books for them to read at home.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Another of the good thing that I do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>around our house is so much black.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagtry right, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know you hear just a Liary's making jokes

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<v Speaker 2>about the big guys Harriet Tubman picture, but that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I got four daughters, so I want him to see

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<v Speaker 2>strong images of black women. So they'll they'll ask questions,

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<v Speaker 2>who is that? You say, Oh, that's Harriet Tubman. And

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<v Speaker 2>like the young lady said, then you can have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about that's right, who Harriet Tubman is. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you hope that education continues on as they get older.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, let's go to the phone line. We have Diane

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<v Speaker 4>on the line. Diane, good morning, good morning, how good morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing well?

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<v Speaker 4>Talk to us? What's your thoughts? Mama?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, well good morning. Let's go out to everyone to

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<v Speaker 8>get out rugs and charlemade the god ladies said, let's

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<v Speaker 8>uh figure out. I just wanted to say good morning.

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<v Speaker 8>But I myself, I'm a grandma and my oldest child

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<v Speaker 8>was older than you, my god. But what happened is

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<v Speaker 8>because of the climate. I'm just tired and I would

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<v Speaker 8>face with the opportunity to come to school with my

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<v Speaker 8>eleven or sixteen year old grand I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 8>for a couple of years. We were registered through the

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<v Speaker 8>border beds in North Carolina. I'm from New York, but

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<v Speaker 8>my family is from South Carolina. I took it upon

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<v Speaker 8>myself to incorporate black history as a subject, and I

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<v Speaker 8>seached them and we've been We're in all the books

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<v Speaker 8>sixteen nineteen. Black history is our social studies books.

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<v Speaker 5>We do that.

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<v Speaker 8>We talk about history. We have there's a link black

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<v Speaker 8>facts dot com website which gives you so much pertinent

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<v Speaker 8>information black history. We talked about that. We're in the Quran,

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<v Speaker 8>we're in the Bible, your book shook one. We're just

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<v Speaker 8>all over the place. But I make sure that they

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<v Speaker 8>know the foundation. I also, because I've gone through something

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<v Speaker 8>some years ago. I send out inspirations every morning, six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>In the morning.

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<v Speaker 8>Used to be one or two people, is now one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and fifty people. And I do it one by

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<v Speaker 8>one because I don't do But what I do is

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<v Speaker 8>I am like them.

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<v Speaker 5>On Black history.

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<v Speaker 8>We're not just for February, but for every month. And

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<v Speaker 8>we talk about things, not but the normal things people

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<v Speaker 8>would talk about. Martin Luther Kings, not that we don't

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<v Speaker 8>talk about them, but we've gone into everything. We talk

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<v Speaker 8>about the masscreadd, we talk about the history. So I

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<v Speaker 8>do that. Growing up in New York's history was something

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<v Speaker 8>that Black history we were a part of. There was

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of boos. There was a foundation's history, and

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<v Speaker 8>we were kind of taught that in the schools a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit, but the rest really lived. We grew up

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<v Speaker 8>in that era. It's different now. And it's true a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of black families children in history, A lot of

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<v Speaker 8>them don't have mind to teach their children. A lot

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<v Speaker 8>of them do depend on the schools. But you have

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<v Speaker 8>to be minding children of what's going on in the schools.

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<v Speaker 8>They were there in the school during the pandemic, how

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<v Speaker 8>they were handling that, and they're not being caught. But

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<v Speaker 8>they can't blame the things because a lot of them

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<v Speaker 8>don't know themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, queen, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, how old are you? How old are

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<v Speaker 1>you as a grandmother, I'm close to seventy.

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<v Speaker 8>I never thought I would be in this permission, would

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<v Speaker 8>be doing this, but I am brave that I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We we love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, glad that we're glad that God kept you here

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right, Mama, Absolutely absolutely, you don't have a blessed

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<v Speaker 8>and thank you so much. Keep doing what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>A great weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, who's this? Hey?

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<v Speaker 5>This is out of trend?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey? What's up? Brother?

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<v Speaker 4>Talk to us?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey man, I don't want to give our shooting the

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<v Speaker 5>shout out for giving people information as far as how

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<v Speaker 5>to learn their history. But I got the easiest format

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<v Speaker 5>for anybody. You can't follow this for me, I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to learn. All you got to do is

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<v Speaker 5>go to YouTube and google Caress one. Then you also

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<v Speaker 5>do certain songs because hip hop has information of it.

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<v Speaker 5>You got the Grave Diggers picked sick on shovel with

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<v Speaker 5>Riss actually break it down a whole slave trade, the

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<v Speaker 5>song I fought in the verse. You know you got

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<v Speaker 5>sons and man, you got skiller armor. You know what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. You got to pull right to teachers, out

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<v Speaker 5>the trend and shout out for right.

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<v Speaker 2>You got killer, Mike you got, you got, you got

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<v Speaker 2>early ice you Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right public aemy, California, public enemy.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of a lot of those artists are

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<v Speaker 3>artists that are our era of artists. What people are saying,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, like you said Charris One, you know

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<v Speaker 3>Karas one where he's breaking down, I want to play

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<v Speaker 3>that Charas when.

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<v Speaker 4>You must learn, you got you must learn, you must learn.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna put that record up.

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<v Speaker 3>He breaks down all the you know, he talks about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, who created the stop light and who created

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<v Speaker 3>this and this that and the ever but.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly along with all black cops. Even even like you

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<v Speaker 5>said you would learn, but listen, I know it's our error.

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<v Speaker 5>But still if you're trying to learn and you listened

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<v Speaker 5>to hip hop. Well, this is lazy waits you to

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<v Speaker 5>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give him another You're absolutely right. I'll give him

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<v Speaker 2>another suggestion. Google Kendrick Lamar's reading reading Look Reading reading recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>Google Nipsey Hustles reading recommendations. I'm looking at Kendricks right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Invisible Man by Rob Ellison, Things Fall Apart, The Black

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<v Speaker 2>of the Barry by Wallace Thurmot, Roots by Alex Haley,

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<v Speaker 2>The Color Purple by Alice Walker. That's that's Kendrick's readingless.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not like we don't have people out here

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<v Speaker 2>that are encouraging people to read.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the more of the story, man, and more of

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<v Speaker 4>the stories?

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<v Speaker 2>What I said earlier, you can't rely on white institutions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to teach your kids black history, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like you do have to do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of self education at home, man. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, please, let's stop repeating white propaganda talking

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<v Speaker 2>points in regards to black people. If we start having

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<v Speaker 2>conversations about black people self educating and encouraging each other

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<v Speaker 2>to read, please, folks, let's not start saying black people

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<v Speaker 2>can't read and black parents don't teach their kids to read.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not that's nonsense, and that's not all the way accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>All these people who called up here, you know, telling

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<v Speaker 2>us how they teach their kids at home. The grandma

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<v Speaker 2>who says she homeschooled her kids talked in black history.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all give me a lot of hope. There's nothing dumb

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<v Speaker 2>about us. There's nothing uneducated about us. Don't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>these white propaganda talking points about us and in regard

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<v Speaker 2>to literacy, and please don't repeat them.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, all right, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, when we come back, we got your room and

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<v Speaker 3>report Dwight Howard he's in a sticky situation.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get to it next.

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<v Speaker 1>Nasty, but not Dwight Howard. You because the way you

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<v Speaker 1>worded that.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what you just did, just said the

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<v Speaker 4>White House stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>You like to play dumb, I said, Dwhite how is

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<v Speaker 3>it a sticky situation?

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<v Speaker 2>When we hear about the situation, you're gonna hear why

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<v Speaker 2>it's sticky, the sticky predicament.

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<v Speaker 1>See why do guy be a predicament?

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get to it next. It's the breakfast lull going.

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<v Speaker 4>It's freaking freaking right, up