Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here's the face uporn hoole
Speaker 1: in America. Yeah, we'll take it. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan
Speaker 1: hand As. I come to you from a virtual room
Speaker 1: filled with sub heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenhal and you know,
Speaker 1: certainly there are far better cornhole players and myself from
Speaker 1: Greg and certainly Mark Um, that's fired Um. And even
Speaker 1: West Uh as great as West was as a cornhole player.
Speaker 1: When I watched the Cornhole UH Championship tournaments on ESPN two,
Speaker 1: as I sometimes sadly do, and I would text Wes
Speaker 1: about that on occasion, Hey West, it's on ESPN two.
Speaker 1: It was never like, oh, let me go flip it on.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh cool. Like even West wasn't on
Speaker 1: board with watching cornhole on television. But the level of
Speaker 1: gil for the greater corn hole community, the true elites,
Speaker 1: is absurd that they'll go, you know, the two guys
Speaker 1: side by side and they'll just throw eight bags in
Speaker 1: a row in the hole. And I just want to say,
Speaker 1: um that in terms of underrated hand eye coordination and
Speaker 1: feats of greatness and athletics, athletics being able to go
Speaker 1: four in a row in the hole in corn is
Speaker 1: to me right up there on the other top of
Speaker 1: the list. I don't care what anybody says. I think
Speaker 1: that's both right and also not right, because I do
Speaker 1: think it's something like free throw shooting that if if
Speaker 1: a ton of people just practiced it NonStop, then a
Speaker 1: decent chunk of those people can get really really good
Speaker 1: at Cornell in a way that you could not, like,
Speaker 1: you know, dunking of basketball, no matter how much you practice,
Speaker 1: Like those guys have so many reps, you gotta give
Speaker 1: them a little, a little. And I know you guys
Speaker 1: think that I'm ultra apathetic, and largely I am. But
Speaker 1: there was there is one cornhole incident that um, I
Speaker 1: still think about probably weekly, and it was at when
Speaker 1: we the four of us went down for West's bachelor weekend,
Speaker 1: um at a questionable Airbnb. I would say it was
Speaker 1: a It had some pluses of minuses. I know you're
Speaker 1: you're up in arms about it, but um, we played
Speaker 1: a lot of corn hoole, and I was teamed with
Speaker 1: West and I was determined to put my best foot forward,
Speaker 1: and we were on the brink of knocking Dan and
Speaker 1: Greg out and I, honestly, I do you remember this.
Speaker 1: I had played pretty well, I had held my own
Speaker 1: like it was not an embarrassment, and I actually had
Speaker 1: a few money shots. But there was a final showdown
Speaker 1: in which suddenly I had the skill of a newborn
Speaker 1: and was flinging like the the the the bags like
Speaker 1: to and fro off the board and we crumbled in
Speaker 1: the final eight minutes. And it's set me to this
Speaker 1: moment and this time around, I do accept the music
Speaker 1: because it was something that I was at. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do remember that. I remember of that you did. You
Speaker 1: put forth a really fine performance. I mean Mark wants
Speaker 1: a big pad on the back because he kept it
Speaker 1: close while he was partnered with you know, the most
Speaker 1: experienced guy there. And let's come down. Well, no, I
Speaker 1: it wasn't like typically It's like West hits nineteen out
Speaker 1: of twenty shots, and I go, I maybe like hit
Speaker 1: the board once. I held my own this time, and
Speaker 1: had we won, you would have heard about it. It
Speaker 1: saved you some trouble because you would have heard about
Speaker 1: it five to six hundred times a month, since um,
Speaker 1: fair enough and yes, West, you could throw the hell
Speaker 1: out of those bags. And Nick Westling by the way,
Speaker 1: and you know we talked about it last week, uh,
Speaker 1: the corn hole showdown that you know, there are different
Speaker 1: viewpoints and how it went down and may have nineteen
Speaker 1: at Western Lucush's wedding. Uh, he sent me a simple
Speaker 1: text two words based on how I told the story
Speaker 1: revisionist history, to which I say, all right, well, let's
Speaker 1: let's see what happens when we all get back on
Speaker 1: the island together. Okay, And let's get on the island
Speaker 1: and let's play and let's settle this for real Westling right.
Speaker 1: But I but I agree with his point though. It's
Speaker 1: like you've you've erased the past and turn it into
Speaker 1: a future challenge, as if the playing field is level,
Speaker 1: which is not. It's not accurate. It's we've got a
Speaker 1: great We've got a great picture out of it, you
Speaker 1: and and Nick both wearing tuxedos, throwing the bags. You know,
Speaker 1: it was nice. All right. We are a week out
Speaker 1: almost um from the start of the new league year,
Speaker 1: and this is now We're now deep, I would say,
Speaker 1: Greg into the second wave of free free agency. Um.
Speaker 1: As the final big names came off the board, it
Speaker 1: felt at the end of the week and over the weekend,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all of that, and then we're
Speaker 1: also going to take another look at where we're at
Speaker 1: with available free agents. As you know, some teams I
Speaker 1: would imagine start are starting to turn their attention to
Speaker 1: the draft in a in a big way. So, yes,
Speaker 1: that's where we are at the stage of the league calendar,
Speaker 1: and uh, why don't we see where we are in
Speaker 1: the old our league hit the news? Ricky is a
Speaker 1: level up in my in my heart deeply just understanding
Speaker 1: what he brings. It's a level up tough sits there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are tracking this story.
Speaker 1: So that was Michael Brocker's. Uh. Then a RAMS star
Speaker 1: asked about the trade of Matthew Stafford to l A
Speaker 1: and uh in exchange for Jared Goff, and he he
Speaker 1: told t MZ that, oh, clearly Matthew Stafford level up,
Speaker 1: level up. And then Michael Brockers gets traded to the Lions,
Speaker 1: the team where Jared Goff plays quarterback, and he today,
Speaker 1: just today TMZ had an update that Lions Michael Brocker's
Speaker 1: apologize as to teammate Jared Goff after shot at QB.
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about your all time backfires. He tried,
Speaker 1: he tried to make it so, and even Goff at
Speaker 1: the answer and be like, no, it's all cool, and
Speaker 1: Bracker's was like, yeah, I explained to him, I was
Speaker 1: just hyping up our new uh our our new situation.
Speaker 1: He gets how it is, and it's like, now re
Speaker 1: listening to him actually say, that's not really what he
Speaker 1: was doing. He was just being real. It was a
Speaker 1: level up where you don't get a sense that they
Speaker 1: were like super tight friends who always had each other's back.
Speaker 1: If that quote came out at all, you wouldn't imagine
Speaker 1: one of us doing that to each other in a
Speaker 1: public sphere, had had we shifted from one show to another,
Speaker 1: you know, back on this show. You know, he thought
Speaker 1: he was safe, he thought he was in the clear.
Speaker 1: Can make a statement like that, and he got banged
Speaker 1: in the biggest of all spots, like Jared Goff himself,
Speaker 1: by the way, because I look at it and we're
Speaker 1: just about we're about to talk about Kenny Golladay who's
Speaker 1: no longer a member of the Lions, and we also
Speaker 1: know that Marvin Jones, the great underrated receiver uh no
Speaker 1: longer with the Lions. Perriman's in the house um late
Speaker 1: starters Tyrrell Williams another team that was another player who
Speaker 1: was cast off by his previous team. Those are the
Speaker 1: top two receivers, with seventy four year old Danny Ammond
Speaker 1: Dole in the slot. I guess he's a free agent too,
Speaker 1: I believe. I don't think he's been signed. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you still got Hockinson. It's not a great it's not
Speaker 1: a great, not a great group, tough situation for golf.
Speaker 1: And then he's got people in the media and his
Speaker 1: own head coach and his old teammates have become his
Speaker 1: teammates all bagging on him. It's it's a trying time
Speaker 1: for Mr Goff. All right, let's get into it, starting
Speaker 1: with Kenny Golladay, who entered a wide receiver free agent
Speaker 1: market that wasn't too kind of many of his contemporaries,
Speaker 1: but it all worked out for him because he signs
Speaker 1: a four year, seventy two million dollar contract um with
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Uh and there's forty million and
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, and that is big. That's a big payday,
Speaker 1: especially in this market. Mark Sessler and I know last
Speaker 1: week on one of our programs where we're talking to microphones.
Speaker 1: You were lamenting the Giants and their strategies in terms
Speaker 1: of team building. To me, this feels like a great
Speaker 1: signing for New York and it really gives them their
Speaker 1: first true number one receiver since O'Dell was traded a
Speaker 1: couple of years back. Yeah, and you look at you
Speaker 1: get se Kwon, Barkley back, healthy, um sterling Shepherd, Darius Slayton,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Kyle Rudolph is depth in my book, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But but if you're Daniel Jones, um, it
Speaker 1: is a huge season you're rolling into because if he crumbles, uh,
Speaker 1: he's out. So you can't. You can't. My issue was
Speaker 1: more with Daniel Jones, with sitting pat at that quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: I get it like they invested a lot and they're
Speaker 1: not ready to jump ship on that. But he's sort
Speaker 1: of run out of um, you know, lingering excuses even
Speaker 1: last year could say without se Kwan and stuff around them, maybe,
Speaker 1: but it Um, he isn't a quarterback that I would
Speaker 1: view as someone that, hey, everyone around him is better
Speaker 1: because Daniel Jones is here. It's like, can this guy
Speaker 1: keep on hold of the ball? He's a turnover machine. Um,
Speaker 1: he's got to work on his own game and make
Speaker 1: use of Kenny Galladay. I mean, you could argue that
Speaker 1: it's not a great landing spot for Kenny Golladay if
Speaker 1: this offense continues to look stuck in the mud with
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett Collin plays that said. I do think that
Speaker 1: the Giants went for it. They got the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver on the market, and so critique off and let's
Speaker 1: see how it goes. Well, it wasn't wasn't cheap. It's funny.
Speaker 1: I saw some smart people saying, these wide receivers better
Speaker 1: take these these deals quickly because this money, the big
Speaker 1: money is not happening for you. And we saw a
Speaker 1: couple of them did. We'll get to him, Juju will fuller.
Speaker 1: But Galad I got that full money. He he this
Speaker 1: is a real deal. Forty million guaranteed, really a fifty
Speaker 1: four year, fifty four million dollar contract over the first
Speaker 1: three years. That's top shelf money. I love it for
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I think he's played a little bit better
Speaker 1: than people give them credit for. And I do think,
Speaker 1: uh that the excuses that you can make for him
Speaker 1: are enormous because I think it's not the weapons, just
Speaker 1: the weapons and the run first approach with a bad
Speaker 1: running game. It's one of the worst offensive lines in
Speaker 1: the league. And I've been hard on Sam Donald and
Speaker 1: I think he probably deserves a little more leeway because
Speaker 1: of the offensive line. It's not about the weapons. Those
Speaker 1: two guys were protected as poorly as any two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the entire league. Joe Burrow I would throw in
Speaker 1: there too, and so they haven't fixed that. So I'm
Speaker 1: still a little worried. But I do like Shepherd and Ingram,
Speaker 1: s Quan's back and Gola Day. It feels like at
Speaker 1: least you've got a team here, we might uh see
Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones has and be a little more fun
Speaker 1: to watch. I would do. I would ask you a question, Greg,
Speaker 1: because I remember after the Primetime game where Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: had and Stumble, well you were well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was almost surprised with how strongly you buried the concept
Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones sort of evolving into anything where I think,
Speaker 1: if anything, I was probably more saying I still see
Speaker 1: things him and I do here and there. It's just
Speaker 1: never a lot of complete games. So did something happen
Speaker 1: down the stretch with Daniel Jones that changed your opinion.
Speaker 1: Did well. He was hurt too. I do think he
Speaker 1: played better down the stretch. That's part of it. I
Speaker 1: think I was a little emotional because I've been in
Speaker 1: on Jones. I like watching him play, and maybe and
Speaker 1: I do think, you know, maybe the ceiling for him
Speaker 1: isn't like top shelf, but I do think he played
Speaker 1: better down the stretch. To answer that he had a
Speaker 1: leg in or A big part of his game is
Speaker 1: his mobility and his speed, and you kind of stripped
Speaker 1: that away from him down the stretch last season. And
Speaker 1: he obviously didn't have a true number one wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You didn't have se Juan Barley Barkley for the whole season,
Speaker 1: and Golladay that's top shelf money because he's a top
Speaker 1: shelf player. He's a true number one wide receiver and
Speaker 1: smack in the middle of his prime. And you mentioned Sandarnald.
Speaker 1: This is what I had hoped for for him. I
Speaker 1: had hoped that in the time that he had his
Speaker 1: UH three years as a starter, at some point they
Speaker 1: surrounded him with a true number one wide receiver, for instance,
Speaker 1: Um and that never happened. And so I think with
Speaker 1: the Giants. They set themselves up well here to get
Speaker 1: one last look at Jones with a really good, uh
Speaker 1: set of playmakers around him, and then if if he
Speaker 1: doesn't play well, then you there's no questions and maybe
Speaker 1: you draft someone at quarterback if you like someone this
Speaker 1: year as well. But uh, I think this is a
Speaker 1: really smart move for them. It'll be interesting to see,
Speaker 1: um if Jones play does take a step in yours
Speaker 1: while we're on the Giants. I do want to throw
Speaker 1: and that. I thought it was interesting they signed Mike Glennon,
Speaker 1: not because I'm a Mike Glennon fan, just because it
Speaker 1: just shows where Daniel Jones is compared to the Drew
Speaker 1: Locks or the Donald certainly of the world, Like they
Speaker 1: just signed like a full on backup that they're that's
Speaker 1: not going to remotely compete with Dana Jones. You mentioned
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster and he is staying in Pittsburgh. This
Speaker 1: went down on Friday. It's a one year, eight million
Speaker 1: dollar contract and uh, Juju. Obviously, I don't think he
Speaker 1: was expecting Kenny Gollada Kenny Golladay money necessarily, but he's
Speaker 1: certainly thinking he was going to get a rich multi
Speaker 1: year deal. After the first four years of his career
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, the market wasn't too hot. Uh So he
Speaker 1: goes back to Pittsburgh on a one year, eight million
Speaker 1: dollar deal, approve a deal essentially and one um that
Speaker 1: um really works out well for the Stealers, Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: because I think they had resigned themselves to losing um juju.
Speaker 1: And according to reports, Mark he left some money on
Speaker 1: the table to stay in Pittsburgh. The Ravens were among
Speaker 1: the teams that were interested in bringing him in. The
Speaker 1: Ravens part um would have been juicy, But I don't
Speaker 1: think that's if you're on a one year prove it deal.
Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to find a team in the
Speaker 1: a f C that I would that I would find
Speaker 1: more of a The results could be so variable than
Speaker 1: going to Baltimore. Maybe would work out, maybe they would
Speaker 1: um open up that passing game a little bit more,
Speaker 1: but it's certainly risky. Why not go back to a system,
Speaker 1: into teammates and environment that you know so well. I mean,
Speaker 1: you take all those ex factors out and you go
Speaker 1: play the best version of yourself next season, And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe this is a player that lost a
Speaker 1: little bit of potential money here and there, or suitors
Speaker 1: based on the whole Juju experience, which, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I get it. The Browns is the Browns. The dancing
Speaker 1: on the logo and that's you know, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: there's tons of players doing that and if anything like
Speaker 1: while that maybe heated me up a little bit um
Speaker 1: before the Browns week, and I think that actually affected
Speaker 1: that game. I really do. But I would say this
Speaker 1: like like a d D for instance, who is around
Speaker 1: the Steelers all the time, and other people who are
Speaker 1: around Juju do also talk about him as one of
Speaker 1: the hardest working, best prepared guys who works on his
Speaker 1: game tirelessly. So I don't think it's a character issue
Speaker 1: at all. I think it's just that, you know what,
Speaker 1: there's most reporters are in their thirties, forties and fifties,
Speaker 1: and your players are in their twenties, and they're like TikTok.
Speaker 1: The idea of TikTok maybe a noise um even people
Speaker 1: like me at times, But I think there's very good
Speaker 1: things on TikTok. If you take a look, if you
Speaker 1: can find things you like, um, I would just say,
Speaker 1: what are you into a lot of corners, a lot
Speaker 1: of categories, and you know, I just there's there are
Speaker 1: things to look into. I'll leave it at that. But um,
Speaker 1: I don't I think Juju has landed in the correct place.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, seven catches eight hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: one yards less season, which is a truly bizarre stat line.
Speaker 1: And I think that hurt his market and depressed his
Speaker 1: value as well, because it reinforced this notion that Smith
Speaker 1: Schuster is not a true playmaker. He's a grinder. He's
Speaker 1: a tough guy that will do the hard work, but
Speaker 1: he's not going to be somebody that can light up
Speaker 1: a team for fifteen hundred yards in a season. But
Speaker 1: that's not quite fair either, because he did that once
Speaker 1: apot a time about two years ago. Um. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great set up um for the Steelers. Now
Speaker 1: we just gotta see if he has a quarterback that
Speaker 1: can get him the ball. It's funny though, Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: was kind of right about Juju when he really slammed him.
Speaker 1: He's like, that boy is not that guy is not
Speaker 1: a number one. And think the two years since the
Speaker 1: league agrees with Antonio Brown and sort of the Steelers
Speaker 1: do too. Guys who played the slot and are rugged
Speaker 1: and tough over the they don't tend to get paid.
Speaker 1: Guys on the outside get paid. That said, I look
Speaker 1: at some of the contracts signed, Corey Davis is with
Speaker 1: the Jets and Nelson Aguilar with the Patriots being the
Speaker 1: ones that stand out. I'd rather have Juju than either
Speaker 1: of those players for sure. Definitely more than all who
Speaker 1: had played a lot in the slot and got sixteen guaranteed,
Speaker 1: you know, two for twenty. I don't know, but Juju
Speaker 1: would be a great fit with the Patriots. By the way,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they just never thought his price would
Speaker 1: get this Patriots. He is though he's a throwback in
Speaker 1: terms of the way he played in his perfect world.
Speaker 1: He is an Edelman Welker type. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. I'm just saying the things that Mark was
Speaker 1: alluding to. That feels like something that maybe Bill what Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's and that a signing has been I mean,
Speaker 1: that is getting killed by pe Well at this point
Speaker 1: for being a jump quick paid too much for a
Speaker 1: guy with questions of his own on the that one,
Speaker 1: and I would say Davis too, but Agil are even
Speaker 1: more so looks worse after the Juju and the Fuller
Speaker 1: signings that they look worse. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: would have taken, because the Jets talk to Shoot Smith
Speaker 1: Schuster as well. Would I'd rather have Jameson Crowder for
Speaker 1: ten million or Schuster Smith Schuster for the same price.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Smith Schuster, but I like I
Speaker 1: like Jameson Crowder, I do I like Crowner. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, he is a member of the Dolphins, which
Speaker 1: feels like it was just fate. I feel like Will
Speaker 1: Fuller was always on the Dolphins in some way, in
Speaker 1: some reality, some universe out there, He's always been a
Speaker 1: member of Miami Dolphins. Now he is in this one. Uh.
Speaker 1: He signs a one year contract, and you know, he
Speaker 1: kind of blew it. Let's face it, Um, he was
Speaker 1: having his the breakout year everyone he expected UH with
Speaker 1: Houston last year after DeAndre Hopkins went out the door
Speaker 1: in that um in for this trade, UH, and it
Speaker 1: seemed like he was going to go into a contractor
Speaker 1: here coming off a twelve yard season with ten touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and then he gets pop for p d s UH
Speaker 1: and get suspended for the last chunk of the season.
Speaker 1: Uh so that depressed his market. Good for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: who now have a guy with huge upside. And I
Speaker 1: like this one too, Greg because to a you want
Speaker 1: to get a good idea of who this guy is
Speaker 1: and what he can do. Um and if you as
Speaker 1: we surround him with better weapons like the Giants just
Speaker 1: did for their young quarterback, you're gonna get a better
Speaker 1: chance to see whether he can really do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hit it on the head there. I think I
Speaker 1: think that got overlooked that you know, they're two best
Speaker 1: receivers were DeVante Parker and Ghazicki who's the tight end? Okay?
Speaker 1: And then after that it was like a fall off
Speaker 1: a cliff to like the Jachem Grant or Preston Williams
Speaker 1: coming off in a c L like that was not
Speaker 1: a good skill position group. I think it's it was
Speaker 1: close to the Patriots as being uh you know, one
Speaker 1: of the worst in the entire NFL. I think Fuller
Speaker 1: isn't even better pick up than than Schuster. I love that.
Speaker 1: I mean I could see them resigning him to a
Speaker 1: big contract in December or January, or using the franchise
Speaker 1: tag because it goes well, I mean there are the
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't played more than eleven games since
Speaker 1: his rookie year, UM half a decade ago, and we
Speaker 1: I mean every year we've talked about when he's not
Speaker 1: in that offense in Houston, like it changed markedly and
Speaker 1: I think it will be the same in Miami. That
Speaker 1: if they were to lose him for three or four games,
Speaker 1: you're losing your deep threat. Maybe you know certainly that
Speaker 1: they're ripe to draft someone too, but he adds an
Speaker 1: element because I think too was in a tough situation
Speaker 1: to your point of who the two leading receivers were
Speaker 1: a year ago, A lot of contested catches, UM, a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff over the middle, UM give to a
Speaker 1: chance to throw deep and create big place. This doesn't
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson, the tackle who was as in terms of yeah,
Speaker 1: one year drops in terms of where you are as
Speaker 1: a professional. You could go across the spectrum out of
Speaker 1: the football world. This this is pretty tough. One to
Speaker 1: twenty nine overall. Picked by the Titans last year, they
Speaker 1: identified him as a guy who can be a big
Speaker 1: time tackle UH for years. He totally bombs UH in
Speaker 1: terms behind the scenes, being on the field two trips
Speaker 1: to the COVID list, H A d U I, all
Speaker 1: that sort of sort of stuff that the Titans say,
Speaker 1: we can't make this work. They essentially dump him to
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Isolah Wilson now has a fresh start
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, and what does he do. He shows
Speaker 1: up late for his physical, then late for his on
Speaker 1: boarding process, Then he skipped um voluntary workouts, and according
Speaker 1: to the Miami Herald, he refused team efforts to help
Speaker 1: him to get his life on track. So in two
Speaker 1: weeks the Dolphins say, okay, we're done, and he cleared
Speaker 1: And now he cleared waivers, which means his football career
Speaker 1: could be over potentially less than a year after being
Speaker 1: a first round pick in the NFL. It's kind of remarkable,
Speaker 1: and not in a good way. I don't know why
Speaker 1: if you're another team, you don't swoop in and grab
Speaker 1: this guy in with him now. It's a like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it. It was the cherry on top of
Speaker 1: a terrible, pretty terrible offseason for the Titans a year ago,
Speaker 1: one that really cost them. I mean, if they made
Speaker 1: different choices, they would have been a different team. They
Speaker 1: were relying on him after letting Jack Conklin go and
Speaker 1: other guys, and he does not show up for the challenge.
Speaker 1: And these little things, Um, these are the little things
Speaker 1: showing up to work on time. Uh, you know, putting
Speaker 1: your best foot forward, X, Y and Z, and he
Speaker 1: seems incapable of that. It just reminds you that a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are immature. I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: to there is something to be said about who you
Speaker 1: are off the field. He kind of reminds me a
Speaker 1: little bit for a comp like Justin Gilbert who was
Speaker 1: a super high draft pick in Cleveland and basically, if
Speaker 1: you wanted to pick like the ten stupidest things you
Speaker 1: could do to have your career fade away, he did them.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah Wilson Um has also checked every possible box,
Speaker 1: including getting COVID multiple times where he was caught at
Speaker 1: like frat how I think it was like at a
Speaker 1: frat house, Um frattonizing that's what you do at a
Speaker 1: frat house with other people who were not you know,
Speaker 1: quite troubling. I mean, he doesn't he's not into football.
Speaker 1: It happens, you know, he's not does not seem that
Speaker 1: interested in having an NFL career for whatever reason. It
Speaker 1: might be a simple one where he's like he's just
Speaker 1: not that into it. Um So, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's sad or or there might be more serious things
Speaker 1: going on. I was gonna say that that would end
Speaker 1: up being a simplification. He seems like a guy it's
Speaker 1: a little bit lost at see he doesn't and it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he has people that are there to
Speaker 1: help them make the right decisions, or if there are people,
Speaker 1: he's ignoring them. But it's it's pretty sad actually, because
Speaker 1: if you take a step back and you don't think
Speaker 1: about it, but then it's like it's like a twenty
Speaker 1: two year old kid like and he's totally like, you know,
Speaker 1: part of the French up his life right now and
Speaker 1: only he can really get himself back on track and
Speaker 1: right now he is off. Yeah, I had I had
Speaker 1: a conversation about this actually someone over the weekend, and
Speaker 1: it's my theory, Like I saw this tweak going around.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, just because you're in the NFL doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you like for ball, Like plenty of these guys
Speaker 1: don't really like that much. And I thought, okay, well
Speaker 1: that's I think the majority by far do because it's
Speaker 1: so hard to get through. But I do think there
Speaker 1: is like a subsection of NFL players, and it's often
Speaker 1: the most talented ones who can get by enough with
Speaker 1: their talent and they don't become like the best players
Speaker 1: in the league. They probably are just like on your
Speaker 1: roster and there maybe middle of the pack and they
Speaker 1: can just like get by with their talent just because
Speaker 1: they're talented enough, and they're they're not really that into it.
Speaker 1: And um, I think I think he would have been.
Speaker 1: He could have been in that category, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: even make the bare minimum of Karen. Apparently, you know
Speaker 1: that Greg had a spicy weekend when he was having
Speaker 1: off the cuff conversations about Isaiah. This story named individual story.
Speaker 1: It was an interesting story, alright. So off the field
Speaker 1: issues have been an issue for Isaiah Wilson. Also off
Speaker 1: the field issues a legend coming to the forefront here
Speaker 1: around Deshaun Watson. This is a story that's getting bigger,
Speaker 1: and um, now we have to track and see how
Speaker 1: it plays out because there's a lawyer named Tony Buzzby
Speaker 1: who said that twelve clients will sue the Texans quarterback
Speaker 1: for a legend misconduct misconduct during massage sessions, and the
Speaker 1: latest of those lawsuits is on an incident that happened
Speaker 1: allegedly just this month. So it is now officially up
Speaker 1: to eleven. So he promised twelve. It's the official count
Speaker 1: is eleven. At a Friday press conference, Buzzby said that
Speaker 1: the misconduct continued even after this started to pick up
Speaker 1: some steam as something that was happening happening these lawsuits
Speaker 1: and the league is monitoring and investigating the situation. He
Speaker 1: could be disciplined Watson under the Personal Conduct Policy UM,
Speaker 1: he could face criminal charges. That is still in play,
Speaker 1: so we have to learn more about this. But at
Speaker 1: a time with Deshaun Watson is the centerpiece of the
Speaker 1: NFL in terms of intrigue. He wants out of Houston.
Speaker 1: Now there is a huge off the field issue around him,
Speaker 1: and you just wonder how that's going to play a
Speaker 1: part in whether he stays, goes, or even comes off
Speaker 1: the field entirely. And I think it's it's impossible to
Speaker 1: say right now let's start there, But I do think
Speaker 1: the story, as you mentioned, Dan, transitions at some point
Speaker 1: as the number of UM women accusing him piled up,
Speaker 1: that this is beyond like not nothing, like this is
Speaker 1: not nothing. This is not something they can put to
Speaker 1: the side. That the chargers also are getting increasingly serious.
Speaker 1: And you know, I went through and read all like
Speaker 1: a bunch of the different charges and you know, some
Speaker 1: of them, some of them involved you know, him him touching,
Speaker 1: and initially the first couple of ones were a little
Speaker 1: more vague. But he has the texts and he has
Speaker 1: like some social media stuff that he's putting as part
Speaker 1: of it, and it's it's very serious and it complicates it.
Speaker 1: And you do think about previous UM domestic domestic cases,
Speaker 1: like you know, conduct policy cases. I'm thinking Jamis Winston specifically,
Speaker 1: he got suspended for that UM for what he did,
Speaker 1: and I think we have to see how this, you know,
Speaker 1: goes from here. But it makes it really complicated UM
Speaker 1: for for Watson, for the Texans, for for everyone. I
Speaker 1: think also if you're like Peter King pointed out, and
Speaker 1: you know, if you're into football, maybe you don't know
Speaker 1: some of how the legal stuff goes. But if it's civil,
Speaker 1: these are civil suits and you can't be put on
Speaker 1: the Commissioner's exemple list. And with civil suits, if it
Speaker 1: moved to criminal suits. That's when guys like Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: and ray rice Um were put on those lists, because
Speaker 1: that's the distinction there. Um. But another thing that you
Speaker 1: point out from a football angle that I I think
Speaker 1: it's just um weighs heavy over the next month plus
Speaker 1: is that we're about thirty eight days away from the draft,
Speaker 1: and you know we've all talked about any sort of
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade obviously has to happen. It could be
Speaker 1: close to the draft, but before the draft, so that
Speaker 1: teams know, whatever team would be, you know what they're
Speaker 1: doing a quarterback, including the Texans, and thirty eight days, um,
Speaker 1: with all this stuff thrown into it is a very
Speaker 1: short amount of time and it could just leave all
Speaker 1: of this um in a very weird place. And you wonder,
Speaker 1: I mean, based on how all this goes, where does
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson's playing it all next year or if he's
Speaker 1: playing and it's it's it's a wait and see. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you have to push pause on the whole thing.
Speaker 1: If from a football perspective, because if you're the Texans,
Speaker 1: well the Texans, as we understand it, don't want to
Speaker 1: trade Deshaun Watson. But if they if they felt like
Speaker 1: they had to and they didn't have a choice. You're
Speaker 1: gonna want to move him for you know, a mountain.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to be able to restock your franchise
Speaker 1: with that trade. And if you're another team, are you
Speaker 1: gonna trade away your future for a guy that has
Speaker 1: an unsettled legal situation and not just you know, a
Speaker 1: one off case or some kind uh an alleged pattern
Speaker 1: of behavior that is really messy and disturbing and that
Speaker 1: is not necessarily got you want to mortgage your future
Speaker 1: over until you find out whether or not, you know,
Speaker 1: just gets cleared up in courts one way or the other.
Speaker 1: So it does feel like and as Mark mentioned, with
Speaker 1: the draft here, it all makes sense that you would
Speaker 1: want to do a trade before the draft. But maybe
Speaker 1: that's just not the way this is gonna work out anymore.
Speaker 1: It is very messy. Oh my goodness. I think I
Speaker 1: think if it was someone other than Watson, the story
Speaker 1: would have accelerated even faster. I think his reputation and
Speaker 1: all the other things that he's done in his career
Speaker 1: and his life and his relationships and everything almost was
Speaker 1: you know, give gives him some benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: in terms of how it just was being handled publicly,
Speaker 1: you know, like for one or two of these complaints
Speaker 1: when they first popped up, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: focus on the lawyer and in different things, and that's
Speaker 1: all you know, worth having context about. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think if it doesn't matter who you are, what's happened before,
Speaker 1: if you put the same circumstances with any player in
Speaker 1: the NFL, would be like incredibly serious. Much less a
Speaker 1: guy who's a franchise quarterback and you know, potentially getting
Speaker 1: traded right now. I mean, I think the things you
Speaker 1: can't get out of here without noting that when it
Speaker 1: started and it was just there were whispers of this
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, this lawyer lives essentially sort
Speaker 1: of kitty corner to the Houston Texans owner that there
Speaker 1: were layers of what is this seems potentially fishy? We
Speaker 1: want let's take you know, of course, just wait and see.
Speaker 1: But to the point that you made are worth the
Speaker 1: number of cases and the frequency and these similarities of
Speaker 1: them all, it's just pretty dense and intricate, intricate and
Speaker 1: so um. You know, our job it really is just
Speaker 1: to not assume, just to wait and find out how
Speaker 1: the legal side of it carries out. But I mean,
Speaker 1: the timing could not be thorn here. It's interesting how
Speaker 1: the story has been covered because you're right, it pops
Speaker 1: up at a time where the Texans in terms of
Speaker 1: pr could not be worse right now about who's running
Speaker 1: the franchise, how it's being run, and how they're desperate
Speaker 1: to keep this guy. And then the conspiracy theories about oh, well,
Speaker 1: maybe this is one way to make that happen to
Speaker 1: depress his trade market. But now you don't. And then
Speaker 1: you have this lawyer and it was like the way
Speaker 1: he came out and initially it seemed like he was
Speaker 1: an ambulance chaser type guy, that he shouldn't be taken seriously,
Speaker 1: that he's looking for publicity. But that feels that feels
Speaker 1: like it's shifted over the past week. So we will
Speaker 1: continue uh to track this story, as unpleasant as it is.
Speaker 1: Back to football. Nice signing here by the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: who pick up Kyle fuller Um, a really solid cornerback
Speaker 1: formerly of the Chicago Bears. It's a one year, nine
Speaker 1: and a half million dollar deal. Uh. Nice spot there
Speaker 1: for vic Faia. They have experience together from their days
Speaker 1: in Chicago and Greg just so happens that the Broncos
Speaker 1: really needed another corner back and now they have a
Speaker 1: really solid one to pair with Ronald Darby and and oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, Justin Simmons, one of the best safeties
Speaker 1: in the league, just signed an extension. Things are set
Speaker 1: up well in the back end, and then I like
Speaker 1: their offseason a lot. They also brought back Shelby Harris,
Speaker 1: who was one of my favorites at defense. I think
Speaker 1: I should expect to be in the top five because
Speaker 1: they're they're a defense heavy team right now. They need
Speaker 1: that defense because they're spending there. They have a great coach,
Speaker 1: great system, Von Miller's coming back. That's the type of
Speaker 1: defense the Broncos can have. I think from the Bears perspective,
Speaker 1: if you want to pile on the Bears for anything
Speaker 1: over the last week, it's not the Andy Dalton signing.
Speaker 1: It's the Kyle Fuller release. It's the fact that you
Speaker 1: were trying to trade Kyle Fuller and probably a Chem
Speaker 1: Hicks to the Seahawks for Russell Wilson right before you
Speaker 1: cut Phillier Fuller. That you mismanage your cap to the
Speaker 1: point where you have to cut a really good player.
Speaker 1: I said, you know earlier this month, though they're not
Speaker 1: cutting players they want to keep. Maybe the Bears are
Speaker 1: an exception to because Fuller is still playing at a
Speaker 1: high level. But you you kind of mismanaged everything where
Speaker 1: yet there's been a few exceptions, Mr, There's been a few,
Speaker 1: but by general point remains. I stand by it. One
Speaker 1: of the one of the legs of your table, your
Speaker 1: soapbox right now. But there a couple of exceptions that
Speaker 1: prove the rule. But the Ryan Pace has blown this.
Speaker 1: You gotta stand behind me on that point. Uh. It
Speaker 1: really makes no sense. It makes no sense, and I
Speaker 1: love it for Denver he has I mean, also, Kyle
Speaker 1: Fuller couldn't know Vick Fongio any better, and well it's
Speaker 1: a great signing. If you don't you don't wonder if
Speaker 1: he'll fit into that system, you know he will. And
Speaker 1: if you're the Broncos and Vic Fongio is your coach,
Speaker 1: what are you doing other than building up that defense
Speaker 1: to the best it can be. He's not. He's an
Speaker 1: old school type of higher If the defense isn't like
Speaker 1: loaded at every position, it's a it's a weakness. And
Speaker 1: I know a bunch of listeners have been telling us
Speaker 1: that we've been calling the general manager his name is
Speaker 1: George Payton a warding into some Um, we don't re
Speaker 1: refuse to acknowledge that, not to recognize it. Sure, we're
Speaker 1: not dumb to the suggestion. We just refuse to to
Speaker 1: to give into that. We have our own name for
Speaker 1: him and General Patton military marching music, Ricky, that would
Speaker 1: be nice, Yes, Peyton, we already got a Painton. Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't need to complicate things. And plus we had
Speaker 1: a George Patton and he was a General Patton, and
Speaker 1: this Patton as a general manager. It's too pit, it's
Speaker 1: too perfect exact from a wordplay angle. You can't ignore it. Please.
Speaker 1: It's like some people on this network, an NFL network,
Speaker 1: called me hand zoos and they like check started it,
Speaker 1: and it's stuck a little bit. I could go around
Speaker 1: spending my life correcting people, as I've had to do,
Speaker 1: but at a certain point I was just like, you
Speaker 1: know what if certain people like hitting my last name
Speaker 1: in a different way, Um, even if they know that
Speaker 1: it's been said multiple ways, whatever you feel works and
Speaker 1: for our podcast in our league, it's George Patton. It's
Speaker 1: the general. You are. You are the old What happened
Speaker 1: to Daddy Rich? Though I thought you're you're floating. People
Speaker 1: have multiple options and how they would like to address you.
Speaker 1: Daddy Rich is one that never really got off the ground,
Speaker 1: but it was officially thrown out there. The New Old
Speaker 1: Blue Eyes is another option. I mean, there's just you've
Speaker 1: got a lot of directions. The new Old Blue Eyes.
Speaker 1: That one's good, that's catching a little fire, that one's where,
Speaker 1: that's bubbling up, and who knows very strong it might
Speaker 1: be turning into you know how like nobody calls hi
Speaker 1: Matt Smith. In fact, my old neighbor now that I've moved.
Speaker 1: But she was asking me right before I moved, you
Speaker 1: know about what it's been like doing shows during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: And I told her, oh, yeah, you know, doing the
Speaker 1: podcast and we have a show and also do this
Speaker 1: power ranking show with Matt Money Smith. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know Matt Smith. It's like, yeah, I know money
Speaker 1: right guy. Oh we love Matt Smith. We listened to
Speaker 1: a show every day. It's like, who calls him Matt Smith?
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny? Like I had you know
Speaker 1: how Facebook, they'll throw you suggestions on who to add
Speaker 1: as a friend, and I was looking at them and
Speaker 1: it was like become friends with Matt Smith. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know anyone named Matt Smith. And
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, that's money, And like
Speaker 1: I realized, I totally get why he injected the his
Speaker 1: birth name with a with a saucy nickname in between,
Speaker 1: because it changes the entire energy. Everything changes throwing money.
Speaker 1: And that's why the new Old Blue Eyes. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that ends up being my thing, where my
Speaker 1: when you see my nameplate on NFL network is gonna
Speaker 1: say Dan new Old Blue Eyes hands. That's in play maybe,
Speaker 1: but I don't know for sure. I don't control it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm more interested just that you that
Speaker 1: your vision of yourself was throwing this nickname out there.
Speaker 1: That's the nickname, the nickname you want, don't know. I
Speaker 1: just go with the flow. I just go with the floe,
Speaker 1: all right. Chris Carson went with the flow, and it
Speaker 1: took him right back to Seattle. Nailed it two years,
Speaker 1: fourteen point six million. Uh, there's one of those stupid
Speaker 1: void years in there now that that can't be new,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's being stressed more this year.
Speaker 1: People are like, like that Taysom Hill contract, which is
Speaker 1: not to get off off track here, but we never
Speaker 1: really dug in on it. Taysom Hill got the onety
Speaker 1: million dollar extension, which clearly isn't that but why did
Speaker 1: they have to make it so giant? Was that? Was
Speaker 1: that trolling people that don't understand the salary cap or
Speaker 1: me specifically, I don't know why was that contract so giants?
Speaker 1: It's for voids every year? It's like that's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: don't take the contracts seriously. It has voids after each year.
Speaker 1: Like again, not to hit on this again, but what
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Well? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Why does that make some complicated? I think probably appeases
Speaker 1: certain the egos of certain agents where they know that
Speaker 1: a vast majority outside of like sort of something you know,
Speaker 1: a group of nerds, not I wanna call the nerds,
Speaker 1: but like people that understand numbers, um, they're going to
Speaker 1: see through that. That Hayes right away. But the most
Speaker 1: football fans think that Taystom Hill sign this monster contract
Speaker 1: until smarter people like ten minutes later describe it initially
Speaker 1: you don't have your average guy or girl just saying like,
Speaker 1: well wait a minute, that contract looks voidable and strange,
Speaker 1: like you need like that layer of looks to come
Speaker 1: into market, go check out. Like whoever it was, whether
Speaker 1: it's rap sheet or chefter, I don't know who it was.
Speaker 1: That the initial tweet of the numbers, and then look
Speaker 1: at all the replies like the next five days just
Speaker 1: totally and then within three hours like calmer heads have
Speaker 1: come in and said, this is probably what's really happening
Speaker 1: with the financials here to your point, to answer your question, Dan,
Speaker 1: taste Mark doesn't do a lot of voices, just have
Speaker 1: to say maybe we need have more assessler voice worker.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that was was Liken pff like
Speaker 1: under score cap expert. I feel like just general like
Speaker 1: a snob. He's like a snob at a country club
Speaker 1: from an eighties movie, Um saying, I would say to
Speaker 1: answer your question, Yes, the Taysom Hill thing was was
Speaker 1: what was the word you use? It was it was
Speaker 1: having a little fun with us, trolling us. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was because his contract, unlike some of these others, didn't
Speaker 1: have anything real in it. They just they just were met.
Speaker 1: They were just messing around. They weren't adding anything to
Speaker 1: reel to his contract. And you're right, these voids and
Speaker 1: they've been around a little bit, but they've been growing,
Speaker 1: and it's been it's all Loomis in New Orleans who
Speaker 1: really brought it to the forefront um and the Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: like all of Drew Brees contracts lately have had these voids.
Speaker 1: And then the Patriots copied it with Brady and like
Speaker 1: now it's like everyone's just going void wild, you know what,
Speaker 1: I hope because I don't like being trolled. I don't
Speaker 1: like people being showing and and say, oh look I
Speaker 1: know the caps so well, I could you know, I
Speaker 1: can make this a billion dollar contract if I want.
Speaker 1: I want something to happen with all old Mickey blue
Speaker 1: Eyes himself Loomis. I want him to somehow miss something
Speaker 1: in the notes and to end up being a guaranteed
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty millions to Taste in Hill, Like
Speaker 1: he just gets banged for being the show off. That's
Speaker 1: what he desire. I think it's sad and to Who's
Speaker 1: just like, well, we gotta do we gotta do this
Speaker 1: crazy void with someone who should we do it with
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, let's do it with taste, and
Speaker 1: that don't really get them going Chris Carson back to
Speaker 1: Chris Carson. Yes, good job by the Seahawks. Another guy
Speaker 1: that you kind of thought might end up leaving and
Speaker 1: making that team weaker as a result, but he comes
Speaker 1: back on a team friendly deal, I like to think,
Speaker 1: and when he's right, which isn't always the case with
Speaker 1: health issues with Chris Carson Mark, but when he's right,
Speaker 1: he's a really good freaking running backs and they got
Speaker 1: him back in the fold. I I he's the kind
Speaker 1: of running back that I kind of just like, and
Speaker 1: I think he makes the Seahawks fun when he's on
Speaker 1: his game. I mean, if you go back to seventeen,
Speaker 1: I think he's fourth in the league and sort of
Speaker 1: tackle breaking elusiveness, creating yards after contact, that kind of
Speaker 1: those kind of metrics. And you know, they also acquired
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson from the Raiders, So I think there's something
Speaker 1: here where it's like, let's we're trying to show you,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, we want We're not just appeasing you, but
Speaker 1: we do want to put the parts around you to
Speaker 1: quell this storm. Um, because if the Dashaun thing goes south,
Speaker 1: there may be extra attention on making this Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: thing happen. If you're one of these teams that doesn't
Speaker 1: have a chance to draft, you want to go swing
Speaker 1: for the fences. The spotlight turns to Russell Wilson. I
Speaker 1: think you're peak Carroll. The Seahawks are saying, we're getting
Speaker 1: you a right guard, We're getting your running back back here,
Speaker 1: we have a draft coming up. Bang, I am here.
Speaker 1: I feel like they've had a curious offseason, though I
Speaker 1: know their fans do, and I share that that they
Speaker 1: they really valued Uh signing Carson and then trading for
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson, who's making ten million dollars. Meanwhile you didn't
Speaker 1: and signing Gerald Everett, the tight end from the Ramps
Speaker 1: for seven million. Like that money adds up to a lot.
Speaker 1: And you chose not to keep Dumblop. You don't really
Speaker 1: have a a pass for us. You chose to keep
Speaker 1: Jaren read Over. Uh, some of these other guys the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Okay, Gabe Jackson, and you resigned Poe Chick.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, I contract was out of control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fourteen million but I'd rather have done Loped
Speaker 1: than Everett uh and Carson or Everett and Gabe Jackson.
Speaker 1: However you want to add it up. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of grumbling going on in Seattle right now
Speaker 1: about how their team is being run by the fans,
Speaker 1: and I get it. I do. And by the way,
Speaker 1: and this is quieted down since the trade, but they
Speaker 1: still have to pay Jamal Adams. They gave up two
Speaker 1: first round picks for that guy, and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: wanting to be paid at a a market resetting level contract.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you delay too long on that,
Speaker 1: he will start to let you know about it. And
Speaker 1: I know from experience you don't want to go down
Speaker 1: that road with Jamal Adams. Uh. So yes, it's going
Speaker 1: to be I think we talked about this um with
Speaker 1: Mike Dugard when he was on the show. Uh. And
Speaker 1: this feels like such a pivotal year in the future
Speaker 1: for the future of the Seattle Seahawks, like everything can change,
Speaker 1: uh if things go poorly, and conversely if things go
Speaker 1: really well, if they're back in the super Bowl. But
Speaker 1: this is all gonna be forgotten. But we'll see what happens. Uh.
Speaker 1: Moving on. He would have been nice for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: By the Waycress Carson, you're gonna fall back. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: really like Chris Carson. I just was surprised that he
Speaker 1: got so much. It shows the Seahawks priorities. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would have loved him on the Patriots for for a
Speaker 1: lower price or what or for any price. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not the one pay and what do I care? Well,
Speaker 1: those guys are. The Patriots probably would have overpaid him
Speaker 1: twice with Seattle, didn't I think they were. They must
Speaker 1: have been in on in on him pretty hard, and
Speaker 1: that's why he got so much. I think from Seattle.
Speaker 1: I said that Will Fuller and the Dolphins felt like
Speaker 1: it was always meant to be. Uh. I kind of
Speaker 1: feel the same way about the Sean Jackson and the Rams.
Speaker 1: Doesn't he feel like a guy that was always gonna
Speaker 1: end up on Rams and now he's there. He signs
Speaker 1: a one year contract, so he'll be catching passes. It's
Speaker 1: a good thought, Matthew Stafford throwing passes the DeShawn Jackson
Speaker 1: deep down the field. The problem is the man cannot
Speaker 1: cannot stay healthy. We all know that. So he's thirty four.
Speaker 1: Now those paper machee hamstrings. I don't imagine they're gonna
Speaker 1: get stronger as he enters his mid thirties. I've just
Speaker 1: been through a week of moving and my body is
Speaker 1: in a full on revolt, just the aches and pains
Speaker 1: of lifting boxes and putting together things and going up
Speaker 1: and downstairs. For Sean Jackson, it's gonna be tough for
Speaker 1: him to stay healthy. But if he ever did, if
Speaker 1: he ever did, he'd be a star. My guess is
Speaker 1: it's for very very little money. The money hasn't come out,
Speaker 1: so my guess it's it's just kind of a flyer.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad as a fan because I I just
Speaker 1: don't like DeShawn Jackson going out on too total injury
Speaker 1: plague years the league. More is more fun watching him,
Speaker 1: and as recently as a week sixteen last year, whenever
Speaker 1: he plays, he like rips off an eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: You remember that that touchdown he had from Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: It was against the Cowboys. So like, even though he
Speaker 1: never plays, he seems to get a seven yard touchdown
Speaker 1: every time he plays. So, I mean he hasn't he
Speaker 1: hasn't had a full seasons in seven years. Um, but
Speaker 1: I think this is a swan that's there. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: you get like eight great games out of him for
Speaker 1: a million or two million dollars, which eight is, which
Speaker 1: is what I would think, which is what I would
Speaker 1: guess he was signed for. Then it's eight quarters eight
Speaker 1: quarters quarter un there. I really do think so, And like,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the problem is the Eagles were
Speaker 1: legit counting on him the last two years. And you're
Speaker 1: right though if you go back to the opener in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he blew up Washington and it was like
Speaker 1: this guy still can play, but you're but he can
Speaker 1: only play one or two weeks a year. I mean,
Speaker 1: but Sean McVeigh got the best out of in Washington.
Speaker 1: I think this is a relationship signing. And they lost
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Um Josh Reynolds was signed by the Titans.
Speaker 1: So you've got Cooper copy, You've got Van Jefferson, so
Speaker 1: he has a chance to see targets and snaps. If
Speaker 1: to dance point the paper set hamstrings. You know, if
Speaker 1: you get too much heat on paper machete, it's gluey
Speaker 1: and it it goes back to that. It's not you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't keep its form. You know, I like that
Speaker 1: that that whole we could go wrong. He you know,
Speaker 1: he's an exciting athlete and all that, but I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want him on my team. I just feel
Speaker 1: like it's not weeks one and two about I guess
Speaker 1: I got to see the money, but as like a
Speaker 1: fourth receiver for two or three million dollars or third receiver. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean that that is the limit though, and maybe yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're fact they're paying um, you know their top two
Speaker 1: guys good money would uh and Cup and the and
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that he's still in the league
Speaker 1: at this point is a testament to when he has
Speaker 1: been on the field, because otherwise, I mean, his body
Speaker 1: is clearly telling the National Football League I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I can't play football on your team because this doesn't
Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's not gonna work. I want to,
Speaker 1: I can want to, I'd love to. I will not
Speaker 1: cooperate with you for three months. I just can't do it,
Speaker 1: let alone three weeks. Little wouldn't it be worth it
Speaker 1: for like one Matthew Stafford seventy five yard you'll get
Speaker 1: in the air bomb to him that I just looked beautiful.
Speaker 1: Give me one two million to work one week a year,
Speaker 1: and I will give you something special in that week.
Speaker 1: You'll you won't forget it, Greg, Greg Rosethal. Rams fans
Speaker 1: out there, savor that incoming eighty four yard touchdown. It
Speaker 1: will be cool. You're down. This was exciting. This was
Speaker 1: the first ever NFL news I can remember. My my wife,
Speaker 1: Emmica broke to me because she's on some mailing list
Speaker 1: because she bought my daughter a Rams T shirt. And
Speaker 1: it was like they were they were out front with
Speaker 1: this de Sean Jackson news right off the bat. But
Speaker 1: you're busy talking Isaiah you know whatever his name is,
Speaker 1: to like random sources stuff right off. Right after we
Speaker 1: got off the podcast air on Thursday, as this always happens,
Speaker 1: big news went down in the NFL Business News. The
Speaker 1: league announced a new eleven year deal with its television
Speaker 1: partners UM. According to the AP, the NFL will earn
Speaker 1: a total of one and thirteen billion a billion with
Speaker 1: a B from the deal, and it will run through
Speaker 1: the twenty thirty three season unless the NFL opts out,
Speaker 1: which they can, I believe in seven or eight years. Uh,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will. And then sign something worth
Speaker 1: I don't know, trillion, twelve trillion dollars maybe next deal anyway,
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy, but in terms of what it means
Speaker 1: to you the football fan, a few notes and then
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you guys if you had anything
Speaker 1: else you took out of it. Uh. Number one, we
Speaker 1: don't get any of the money that should be note. UM,
Speaker 1: Monday night games starting will be flexible starting in week twelve.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. There will be more Monday doubleheaders. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: going to be a Saturday double header. This is all
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of years down the line,
Speaker 1: but Saturday double header during the final week of the
Speaker 1: season with teams that have playoff UM aspire ations. That
Speaker 1: so that's flexible. And Thursday night football is headed to
Speaker 1: Amazon and a full time capacity starting in which is
Speaker 1: obviously a total game changer. Uh for UM Television. The
Speaker 1: idea that watching a primetime spotlight Island NFL game now
Speaker 1: you would only be able to do it unless you
Speaker 1: had your computer internet hook up. UM. And that's that's
Speaker 1: a game changer, and that looks like the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the home markets will will get those Amazon games. I
Speaker 1: was curious about that on some sort of over the
Speaker 1: air TV. But if nationally, yeah, you'll have to have
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. That that changes. It's a bummer here for
Speaker 1: for us At NFL Network, they said the net NFL
Speaker 1: Network will have a small, you know, selected series of games.
Speaker 1: It's a little unclear what that would be. Maybe holidays
Speaker 1: or Saturdays. Well, we'll see, um. But it just it
Speaker 1: just goes to so coming off the pandemic UM to
Speaker 1: be able to do this is wild. And I love
Speaker 1: the fact that they're going to be flexing Monday night.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it should it shouldn't go
Speaker 1: without saying, uh, seventeen weeks starting starting this season. That's
Speaker 1: part of it too. That's not official, I guess, but
Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's close to as official.
Speaker 1: We've been calling for more flexing UM and as as
Speaker 1: of others for a long time, so I love that
Speaker 1: they're open to that. I do wonder who would be
Speaker 1: the announcers for the Amazon UM scenario. Maybe you still
Speaker 1: you know TVD on that. Here's one little thing that's
Speaker 1: stuck out for me because how long have we been
Speaker 1: watching football where Network A owns the a f C
Speaker 1: and Network B owns the NFC and all of that
Speaker 1: is going away, that the there is no more CBS
Speaker 1: um a f C partnership and Fox NFC marriage, that
Speaker 1: it's all being dissolved. And I find that fascinating, um too.
Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe that's just a nerdy thing, but I
Speaker 1: grew up with NBC UM being tied at the hip
Speaker 1: to the a f C that became CBS. But Foxes
Speaker 1: been with the NFC for so long, and all of
Speaker 1: that's being thrown into a soup um, which I think
Speaker 1: is causing may cause some consternation because you don't have
Speaker 1: those you can't rely on those certain properties, um if
Speaker 1: you're one of those networks, those certain teams year after year.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how they figure that out.
Speaker 1: But I think most of this is how lucky that
Speaker 1: they signed that c B A when they did none
Speaker 1: of the I don't none of this would be happening
Speaker 1: right now. They got that thing out in time, at
Speaker 1: the weirdest time in our our nation's history to be
Speaker 1: signing massive contracts. Get your get your TV, by the way,
Speaker 1: you know how like each each network as their own
Speaker 1: you know, streaming platform, like if you don't if you're
Speaker 1: a cord Cutter. You can get Paramount Plus and you'll
Speaker 1: get NFL games. That's gonna get everyone to you know,
Speaker 1: sign up for Paramount Plus. But Foxes, you know, streaming
Speaker 1: thing is called to be to you b I, so
Speaker 1: you might have some NFL to Yeah. To Be has
Speaker 1: a separate version of NFL Network. Um that just all
Speaker 1: sorts of other program and it's pretty good. Sorry, probably
Speaker 1: didn't need to jump in to talk to be, but
Speaker 1: I just like the word to be t u b I,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I like, I just like an entire
Speaker 1: show that just Marking Gregg breaking down the streaming wars.
Speaker 1: Who needs Marshot going upstream with Cessler and I would
Speaker 1: be the Robin to Greg's batman on that front. He
Speaker 1: is like obsessed with television deals. Uh, let's hit eight
Speaker 1: o'clock to light. Philip Lindsay, formerly of the Broncos, signs
Speaker 1: a one year, three point to five million dollar contract
Speaker 1: with the Texans, the Texans who also just signed mark
Speaker 1: Ingram and also brought back David Johnson. Okay, they've they've
Speaker 1: signed twelve different players to one year, three million dollar contracts,
Speaker 1: but this was maybe my favorite one. This one in
Speaker 1: Desmon King. I don't hate what they're doing a little
Speaker 1: bit because they can reset the board next year, run
Speaker 1: a little single wing with all three running backs and
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Wow. Uh, Cincinnati Bengals. They finally add someone
Speaker 1: to their offensive line as Riley reeve recently been with
Speaker 1: the Vikings. They also, as we know, let A j.
Speaker 1: Green walk in free agency, while they also say goodbye
Speaker 1: to thirty two year old Geno Atkins, the great defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: who is cut after eleven years and Cincinnati injuries have
Speaker 1: taken their toll rank. They have potential Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I think I'll get another job, and and I know
Speaker 1: I know you are worried about Burrow, so at least trying.
Speaker 1: They're trying. They they better use that first round picking
Speaker 1: the draft on a tackle. We'll see Sheldon Rankins, formerly
Speaker 1: of the Saint Size of two year, seventeen million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Another guy that's been dealing with injuries. He's now joining
Speaker 1: a Jets defensive line that needed um a little more depth.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Rankings great big upside his
Speaker 1: eighteen season, he was awesome. That's a it's a nice signing.
Speaker 1: Birth to that. In two thousand eighteen He had eight
Speaker 1: sacks and forced to fumble eight sixteen starts for Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: All right, Xavier Rhodes resigned by the Colts one year,
Speaker 1: six and a half million. Uh, what do you think?
Speaker 1: More we I think Matt Eberflus got the best out
Speaker 1: of him last year after he really kind of crashed
Speaker 1: and burned in Minnesota. So why not? They could use
Speaker 1: the extra pass rush though, That makes the secondary better.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, fired by the Falcons, resurfaces as d C
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, and now he brings along one of
Speaker 1: his former guys, Dan O'Neill, the linebackers safety one year,
Speaker 1: five million dollars. Yeah, they're trying out a few other
Speaker 1: ex Falcons. It's like, yeah, let's let's get the whole
Speaker 1: Falcons defense back together. That was a great group. It's
Speaker 1: gonna play linebackers. Sorry, he's a good Effony Harris with
Speaker 1: safety signs of one year, five million dollar deals with
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I like this player and they got him
Speaker 1: for five million. That's a good bargain. I mean he
Speaker 1: he played with their new defensive coordinator, Jonathan gannet So
Speaker 1: good job to Brown signings. Troy Hill cornerback four years
Speaker 1: twenty four million, and also Malik Jackson signs as well
Speaker 1: with a it's formerly every eagerly. I think that John
Speaker 1: Johnson Troy Hill signings were quietly some of the best
Speaker 1: work in the f C perfect eight o'clock. Well, listen, Mark,
Speaker 1: you you're feeling good about the Browns, aren't you. You've
Speaker 1: you've kind of you've ducked into slack it for a
Speaker 1: couple of times of a couple of texts. You had
Speaker 1: a high coup on our network show. What are we thinking?
Speaker 1: I think the high coup is really just a way
Speaker 1: to um continue to troll Big Bend in the whole
Speaker 1: concept the Big Ben returning this season. But I do think, um,
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm not saying this, but I've seen some
Speaker 1: reports saying they think that the Browns have one of
Speaker 1: the most well rounded rosters um in the conference, and
Speaker 1: I think it's fair. I mean, they needed to address secondary.
Speaker 1: They still have a few other things to do, and
Speaker 1: maybe we could get out into that segment if we
Speaker 1: wanted to. But Mark has a lot emotionally invested right
Speaker 1: now in not just the Browns, as he always does,
Speaker 1: but in the Browns bringing about the demise of the Steelers.
Speaker 1: So that'll be a good well if it goes south
Speaker 1: this year, right, if that goes south, or if it
Speaker 1: just goes back to the norm of before last season,
Speaker 1: or really just before last wild card game. Um, there
Speaker 1: will I will be punished by many from the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: area on Twitter. This this is setting up, though potentially
Speaker 1: as the true Now, the playoff game was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun, but maybe Mark, truly the tables turned starting
Speaker 1: and you become the bully? And how will you handle that?
Speaker 1: Will you comport yourself in a way that you felt
Speaker 1: the Steelers fans didn't always handle their business the right way?
Speaker 1: Will you handle yourself with dignity if that happens? I
Speaker 1: hope I would, But I would say it's very up
Speaker 1: in the air because, Um, I'm already noticing that my
Speaker 1: behavior is becoming less kouth um post wild card game,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to inhabit some of the traits that I
Speaker 1: found unlikable in others. Um, all right, let's let's uh
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye quickly, let's talk about it. Um.
Speaker 1: Teams that still have work to do, whether it's gonna
Speaker 1: be free agency or the draft, Mark, you want to
Speaker 1: get going. I will I thought that the Jaguars um,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of places you go here. I
Speaker 1: thought the Jaguars were a logical landing spot for like
Speaker 1: a Hunter Henry type or maybe even a John new
Speaker 1: Smith UM. And obviously no one UM. But the Patriots
Speaker 1: snagged both of those guys. They let Josh Oliver go,
Speaker 1: who was a bust. UM. They have Trevor Lawrence coming
Speaker 1: in borrowing something you know, unexpected. You'd love to give
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, even if you're as good as Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: like a security blanket. I think that's something like Sam
Speaker 1: Donald's missed in New York, for instance, because they've had
Speaker 1: issues at that position and health. They've got your dude
Speaker 1: Chris man Hurts lined up to play snaps and John
Speaker 1: and James O'Shaughnessy. I like the idea of James O'shanny
Speaker 1: on your roster doing one or two things, but not
Speaker 1: as like these two guys. As you're um starting tight ends.
Speaker 1: So there are UM, they're in tough position because there
Speaker 1: are a couple of good tight ends in the draft,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to go in that direction in
Speaker 1: the first round. UM, and they're kind of out of
Speaker 1: luck right now, so I think it's a position that
Speaker 1: they need to look into. I I did a best
Speaker 1: worst contracts um piece for NFL dot Com that's going
Speaker 1: up this week. I'm not sure when uh and the
Speaker 1: Jaguars were on the worst because they were they were
Speaker 1: the one team that I felt like like all these
Speaker 1: deals were below what you expected, except if you signed
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville like they where there was like the top
Speaker 1: of the market where everyone was about where you thought
Speaker 1: and then a lot of bargains except for Jacksonville giving
Speaker 1: like a lot of money to Roy Roberts and Harris
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Brown and Marvin Jones and ray Sean Jenkins
Speaker 1: and Riff and their their cornerback that they got Um.
Speaker 1: I just felt like they paid a premium. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that was like a hey, we're bad where
Speaker 1: the Jaguars premium or what, But they don't know if
Speaker 1: they had a great month. It feels like a trend
Speaker 1: belki Um premium. That was an interesting person to hire
Speaker 1: a GM UM. Let's go with Miami. It seems weird
Speaker 1: because they just signed Fuller and yet I like want
Speaker 1: more I just got. Maybe it was expectations being too
Speaker 1: high that I thought they were going to do a
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, and they got rid of some good
Speaker 1: players and they you know, they brought in Fuller, they
Speaker 1: brought in Justin Coleman, who's a slot corner, but especially
Speaker 1: on offense, where I'm not totally convincing that offensive line,
Speaker 1: no matter how much Handsome Hank says they're better than
Speaker 1: I think that they're great. And then you know, I
Speaker 1: just want more receiving weapons. And I thought they'd bring
Speaker 1: in a nice running back there. So maybe that's the draft,
Speaker 1: Maybe that's bargains in free agency. There's still players out there,
Speaker 1: but I want to see more out of the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. But I do like I like that
Speaker 1: they haven't panicked and and we'll see maybe something changes
Speaker 1: between now and the draft. But I never liked that
Speaker 1: idea of pivoting away from to a potentially or going crazy,
Speaker 1: Um I would like I think it would be totally
Speaker 1: It would be nonsense if you Assent really soured on
Speaker 1: to a based on last year, which had so many
Speaker 1: obstacles against him. So I like the Fuller sign it,
Speaker 1: but you say I want more. Maybe it's the running
Speaker 1: game you want them. Yeah, I think there were um
Speaker 1: to some degree, but even another it's just a thinner
Speaker 1: group than you'd like. They did sign Matt Scura, the
Speaker 1: Ravens center, who I believe was the one that was
Speaker 1: struggling with snaps and my crazier here the one that
Speaker 1: got hurt. Either way, they did sign a center, but
Speaker 1: I I want them to like take the next step,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the raster not sure if I
Speaker 1: see it. I think in another world they could have
Speaker 1: gone after Aaron Jones, which I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people were connecting those dots. I thought that would happen.
Speaker 1: But they have a lot of draft picks, and I
Speaker 1: think they have I really do think Chris Career Um
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that maybe says we're gonna
Speaker 1: get our running back in the draft, and there's there
Speaker 1: are some good backs in there. Um, we kind of
Speaker 1: touched on it quickly, so I won't um dig on
Speaker 1: on this one, but yes, I think good job. They
Speaker 1: The Bengal signed Riley Reeve and they had a steak
Speaker 1: dinner where they sealed the deal. Joe Burrows there, Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor was there. Um. After dinner, Um brief walked away,
Speaker 1: uh saying I walked away from eating that steak and
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to block block for that guy,
Speaker 1: all right, could So that's a good start since tonight,
Speaker 1: let's not settle now. I know Mitchell Schwartz is out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's continuing to play obviously the
Speaker 1: top of that draft, but I really want to focus
Speaker 1: on a different team. And they have seen north than
Speaker 1: it is the Baltimore Ravens, and man, it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: to me that they are not more active in trying
Speaker 1: to build up their wide receiver room right now. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should have signed Kenny Golladay because
Speaker 1: that was a lot of money to give to Kenny
Speaker 1: Golladay and you have financial restraints, but you know you
Speaker 1: didn't go the extra mile to get ju Ju. I
Speaker 1: imagine you could have if he signed a one year
Speaker 1: deal worth eight million, and I know maybe they did
Speaker 1: offer a little bit more, but maybe you have to
Speaker 1: go another year to add someone there. But the fact
Speaker 1: that you still have Hollywood Brown at the top of
Speaker 1: your depth chart, um, it makes me think that this
Speaker 1: team is not it's gonna struggle with Lamar Jackson to
Speaker 1: take that next step on offense unless they make a
Speaker 1: splashy uh move via trade or really focus it on
Speaker 1: draft upgrading at wide receiver. And this fact whether you
Speaker 1: could put whatever you want into it, but I think
Speaker 1: it does um hold water because Ozzie Newsom gave way
Speaker 1: to Erica Costa, who learned under Ozzie Newsom. They've never
Speaker 1: drafted Pro Bowl wide receiver in the history of that organization.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna leaning on that, there's some history
Speaker 1: that tells you they're not. Maybe they have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a blind spot at wide receiver. So if
Speaker 1: you're gonna pass on free agency, you better hit on
Speaker 1: somebody in the draft unless I'm crazy, Greg, And I
Speaker 1: know you love Lamar Jackson, Uh that this is fine
Speaker 1: the way it is, and they're a running team anyway,
Speaker 1: and you don't need to build up around I'm not
Speaker 1: shocked because that's how the Ravens have approached things over
Speaker 1: the years. And we knew they were coming into this
Speaker 1: offseason in a tough spot. You know, they also lost
Speaker 1: their top two pass rushers, uh, and they've made some moves.
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler they picked up for their offensive line. There
Speaker 1: is one name out there who's the top My receiver rankings.
Speaker 1: Really the top two there left that I think would
Speaker 1: be good for them, which is t Y Hilton is
Speaker 1: number one left. I think that would be a nice signing.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's done um, but the culture trying
Speaker 1: to bring him back. And then Antonio Brown, who they
Speaker 1: were rumored to be um talking with at some point
Speaker 1: last year, is also available. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the right fit right. I don't know that the top
Speaker 1: two receivers at least available on my on my board,
Speaker 1: I could imagine Antonio Brown being UM, very annoyed and
Speaker 1: question don't want no. I I just wonder if you're
Speaker 1: talking to your camp, your agents, your managers, and you
Speaker 1: have equal deals from Team A and Team B, and
Speaker 1: you know the Ravens are a tough place if you're
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. To think I'm gonna go and become
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow up here, this is a great fit.
Speaker 1: It's like you maybe you will, but you have no idea.
Speaker 1: And like the Greg Roman offense feels like the last
Speaker 1: offense you want to run into based on their star
Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're saying, you know multiple times this year
Speaker 1: this place is a trash have been perfect, so our
Speaker 1: our tailoring about it that Juju got a nine million
Speaker 1: dollar offer from the Ravens, a one million dollar more
Speaker 1: but more incentives, like some incentives too, but it was
Speaker 1: still a one year offer. Why why not make a
Speaker 1: little more, give a little more guaranteed. I think Juju
Speaker 1: would have fit perfect in Baltimore. That's where Lamar throws best,
Speaker 1: is over the middle. T Y makes sense. Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: also out there is an option. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: but make a move, make a move, give you give
Speaker 1: you that that guy a chance to lift his game
Speaker 1: as a passer. If that's the jury is out on
Speaker 1: him in that sense, well you gotta build up around him.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, anybody else have something? I think
Speaker 1: I just want Denver to to all that quarterback spot
Speaker 1: with Locke because I don't want to as someone who
Speaker 1: really likes this roster. I like their defense. I like
Speaker 1: the weapons around Lock a lot. I'm not feeling good
Speaker 1: right now that right now Noah fant In Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: and Jerry Judy and Tim Patrick and Handler and even
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon like they're all relying right now on Drew Lock.
Speaker 1: I want another. I want an option be I don't.
Speaker 1: I think all the the good options are gone, so
Speaker 1: it might be too late unless you drive it might be.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the cults um left tackle, Anthony
Speaker 1: Constanzo get Teddy. Denver, I just thought of that one, Denver.
Speaker 1: You love Teddy. I love Teddy two and a half
Speaker 1: times more than any other person you. How about how
Speaker 1: about your boy? How about your boy Matt Rule? How
Speaker 1: about your boy Matt Rule? You love sending see poems
Speaker 1: about who gave him fifty million dollars guaranteed when no
Speaker 1: one else was, who told us on the show how
Speaker 1: much he loves it and, by the way, helped him
Speaker 1: produce at a really high level for about ten weeks
Speaker 1: before the wheel. Well, Greg, that was you, Barry Dan
Speaker 1: and I in front of Matt Rule to showcase yourself
Speaker 1: as a Teddy fanboy, which I didn't appreciate. But secondly,
Speaker 1: that entire organization is said, we're going to go get
Speaker 1: a real quarterback. So you're right, by the way, I
Speaker 1: get it, though you I think you were, You were right,
Speaker 1: But I also think Teddy is way better than Drew
Speaker 1: lock Is. My point is Teddy is that Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: you know, or even a little lower like twenty three
Speaker 1: or fourth best starter in the league. And to me,
Speaker 1: that might be a huge upgrade from Lock and might
Speaker 1: be a pretty big difference. And I wouldn't hate that.
Speaker 1: That would be a good spot for Teddy. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, I mean, I'm just here's the
Speaker 1: thing with Teddy Gregg at this point where we are now,
Speaker 1: where it's now two thousand twenty one. Last year really
Speaker 1: felt like the chance for him to establish himself as
Speaker 1: a guy that you could really say that's myke QB one.
Speaker 1: He is. He is not the greatest quarterback ever, but
Speaker 1: you know he's in that conversation of like a you know,
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. I don't I don't think he
Speaker 1: had his chance and it just didn't happen. Is that
Speaker 1: a solution? You're right, But I think I get it.
Speaker 1: But what if that's not what they're looking for. They're
Speaker 1: looking for a guy to pair with Locke. That is
Speaker 1: kind of a making case for that. I think what
Speaker 1: I just said with that realizing was well, no one
Speaker 1: else is available. He's on the wrong side of the
Speaker 1: Dolton scale, Teddy. So if you don't why go you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's I think Locke is definitely on the wrong
Speaker 1: side of the Dalton scale. Uh, maybe they should have
Speaker 1: went a different direction, because that is a roster that
Speaker 1: can win. I think. I think if you watched it
Speaker 1: all of Teddy's snaps last year, we go First of all,
Speaker 1: it did go south. But I think he was better
Speaker 1: than people think, if not for one really big problem,
Speaker 1: which is he played his worst in the in the
Speaker 1: late portions of fourth quarters of games. And that really sad,
Speaker 1: and that's understandable. Like when everyone switched to the Panthers
Speaker 1: game with five minutes left, that was when Teddy was
Speaker 1: at his worst. But that's not what you want out
Speaker 1: of your quarterback. Every Panthers game seemed to come down
Speaker 1: to like a sixty one yard field goal attempt. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're trying to I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're trying to help Teddy Bridgewaters' last five minutes, but
Speaker 1: you're greg you're going to have to at some point,
Speaker 1: like verbally accept that he's not quite as shiny as
Speaker 1: you pitch him to us. As I mean, if if
Speaker 1: he's going to be on his fourth team in four years, um,
Speaker 1: if he's on his fifth team five in five years
Speaker 1: a year from now, will you still be you know,
Speaker 1: song and dance scenario here with Teddy Bridgewater? Can we
Speaker 1: chill just a little bit on the PR machine. I
Speaker 1: don't know what your relationship is with the Bridgewater family,
Speaker 1: but very close, you know, has he reached out to you?
Speaker 1: He's a likable guy. No one's questioning that. We like
Speaker 1: to watch. It's sad you kind of replaced Geno Smith
Speaker 1: with Teddy, like as the guy who up that. It's
Speaker 1: hard to fathom for others. Um, we all have those
Speaker 1: players though, that's true. All right, good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with another show, another big
Speaker 1: week of action for the Around the NFL podcast. There
Speaker 1: is no off season, so we have a show on
Speaker 1: Thursday and then the network show returns on Friday, and
Speaker 1: please check that out. Any any closing thoughts, haikup, perhaps tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about Teddy. I'm still things that could
Speaker 1: respond about Teddy. It's like if if Sam Donald, how
Speaker 1: do you always do that? You always Donald? I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Donald any could I just you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying if he had done one season as good as
Speaker 1: as Teddy's even last season, or his first or second season.
Speaker 1: It's like we would we would be talking about huntil
Speaker 1: the cows coming. I don't know, man, That's like when
Speaker 1: you you start to get upset, you just bring up
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and and say, but if he was Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: it's probably right. But um okay, that's it. Dan has
Speaker 1: a signing off for Quiet Storm. The old Boss. Ricky
Speaker 1: Holly is very silent assassin behind the virtual of Last Today.
Speaker 1: Possibly asleep, maybe maybe coherent, maybe awake, we don't know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, until Thursday, he's the call six