1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here's the face uporn hoole 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: in America. Yeah, we'll take it. Welcome to another edition 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: hand As. I come to you from a virtual room 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: filled with sub heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenhal and you know, 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: certainly there are far better cornhole players and myself from 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Greg and certainly Mark Um, that's fired Um. And even 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: West Uh as great as West was as a cornhole player. 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: When I watched the Cornhole UH Championship tournaments on ESPN two, 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: as I sometimes sadly do, and I would text Wes 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: about that on occasion, Hey West, it's on ESPN two. 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: It was never like, oh, let me go flip it on. 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: It was like, oh cool. Like even West wasn't on 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: board with watching cornhole on television. But the level of 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: gil for the greater corn hole community, the true elites, 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: is absurd that they'll go, you know, the two guys 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: side by side and they'll just throw eight bags in 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: a row in the hole. And I just want to say, 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: um that in terms of underrated hand eye coordination and 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: feats of greatness and athletics, athletics being able to go 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: four in a row in the hole in corn is 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: to me right up there on the other top of 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the list. I don't care what anybody says. I think 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that's both right and also not right, because I do 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: think it's something like free throw shooting that if if 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a ton of people just practiced it NonStop, then a 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: decent chunk of those people can get really really good 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: at Cornell in a way that you could not, like, 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, dunking of basketball, no matter how much you practice, 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Like those guys have so many reps, you gotta give 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: them a little, a little. And I know you guys 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: think that I'm ultra apathetic, and largely I am. But 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: there was there is one cornhole incident that um, I 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: still think about probably weekly, and it was at when 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: we the four of us went down for West's bachelor weekend, 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: um at a questionable Airbnb. I would say it was 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: a It had some pluses of minuses. I know you're 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: you're up in arms about it, but um, we played 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot of corn hoole, and I was teamed with 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: West and I was determined to put my best foot forward, 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: and we were on the brink of knocking Dan and 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: Greg out and I, honestly, I do you remember this. 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I had played pretty well, I had held my own 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: like it was not an embarrassment, and I actually had 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: a few money shots. But there was a final showdown 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: in which suddenly I had the skill of a newborn 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: and was flinging like the the the the bags like 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: to and fro off the board and we crumbled in 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: the final eight minutes. And it's set me to this 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: moment and this time around, I do accept the music 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: because it was something that I was at. Yeah, I 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: do remember that. I remember of that you did. You 53 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: put forth a really fine performance. I mean Mark wants 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a big pad on the back because he kept it 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: close while he was partnered with you know, the most 56 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: experienced guy there. And let's come down. Well, no, I 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't like typically It's like West hits nineteen out 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: of twenty shots, and I go, I maybe like hit 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: the board once. I held my own this time, and 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: had we won, you would have heard about it. It 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: saved you some trouble because you would have heard about 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: it five to six hundred times a month, since um, 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: fair enough and yes, West, you could throw the hell 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: out of those bags. And Nick Westling by the way, 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and you know we talked about it last week, uh, 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the corn hole showdown that you know, there are different 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: viewpoints and how it went down and may have nineteen 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: at Western Lucush's wedding. Uh, he sent me a simple 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: text two words based on how I told the story 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: revisionist history, to which I say, all right, well, let's 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: let's see what happens when we all get back on 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: the island together. Okay, And let's get on the island 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and let's play and let's settle this for real Westling right. 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: But I but I agree with his point though. It's 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: like you've you've erased the past and turn it into 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: a future challenge, as if the playing field is level, 77 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: which is not. It's not accurate. It's we've got a 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: great We've got a great picture out of it, you 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: and and Nick both wearing tuxedos, throwing the bags. You know, 80 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: it was nice. All right. We are a week out 81 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: almost um from the start of the new league year, 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: and this is now We're now deep, I would say, 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: Greg into the second wave of free free agency. Um. 84 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: As the final big names came off the board, it 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: felt at the end of the week and over the weekend, 86 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all of that, and then we're 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: also going to take another look at where we're at 88 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: with available free agents. As you know, some teams I 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: would imagine start are starting to turn their attention to 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: the draft in a in a big way. So, yes, 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: that's where we are at the stage of the league calendar, 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: and uh, why don't we see where we are in 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: the old our league hit the news? Ricky is a 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: level up in my in my heart deeply just understanding 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: what he brings. It's a level up tough sits there. 96 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are tracking this story. 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: So that was Michael Brocker's. Uh. Then a RAMS star 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: asked about the trade of Matthew Stafford to l A 99 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: and uh in exchange for Jared Goff, and he he 100 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: told t MZ that, oh, clearly Matthew Stafford level up, 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: level up. And then Michael Brockers gets traded to the Lions, 102 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: the team where Jared Goff plays quarterback, and he today, 103 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: just today TMZ had an update that Lions Michael Brocker's 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: apologize as to teammate Jared Goff after shot at QB. 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about your all time backfires. He tried, 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: he tried to make it so, and even Goff at 107 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: the answer and be like, no, it's all cool, and 108 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Bracker's was like, yeah, I explained to him, I was 109 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: just hyping up our new uh our our new situation. 110 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: He gets how it is, and it's like, now re 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: listening to him actually say, that's not really what he 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: was doing. He was just being real. It was a 113 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: level up where you don't get a sense that they 114 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: were like super tight friends who always had each other's back. 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: If that quote came out at all, you wouldn't imagine 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: one of us doing that to each other in a 117 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: public sphere, had had we shifted from one show to another, 118 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: you know, back on this show. You know, he thought 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: he was safe, he thought he was in the clear. 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Can make a statement like that, and he got banged 121 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: in the biggest of all spots, like Jared Goff himself, 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: by the way, because I look at it and we're 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: just about we're about to talk about Kenny Golladay who's 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: no longer a member of the Lions, and we also 125 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: know that Marvin Jones, the great underrated receiver uh no 126 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: longer with the Lions. Perriman's in the house um late 127 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: starters Tyrrell Williams another team that was another player who 128 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: was cast off by his previous team. Those are the 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: top two receivers, with seventy four year old Danny Ammond 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: Dole in the slot. I guess he's a free agent too, 131 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I believe. I don't think he's been signed. So yeah, 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: you still got Hockinson. It's not a great it's not 133 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: a great, not a great group, tough situation for golf. 134 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: And then he's got people in the media and his 135 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: own head coach and his old teammates have become his 136 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: teammates all bagging on him. It's it's a trying time 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: for Mr Goff. All right, let's get into it, starting 138 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: with Kenny Golladay, who entered a wide receiver free agent 139 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: market that wasn't too kind of many of his contemporaries, 140 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: but it all worked out for him because he signs 141 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: a four year, seventy two million dollar contract um with 142 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Uh and there's forty million and 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed money, and that is big. That's a big payday, 144 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: especially in this market. Mark Sessler and I know last 145 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: week on one of our programs where we're talking to microphones. 146 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: You were lamenting the Giants and their strategies in terms 147 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: of team building. To me, this feels like a great 148 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: signing for New York and it really gives them their 149 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: first true number one receiver since O'Dell was traded a 150 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: couple of years back. Yeah, and you look at you 151 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: get se Kwon, Barkley back, healthy, um sterling Shepherd, Darius Slayton, 152 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Kyle Rudolph is depth in my book, I 153 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: don't know. But but if you're Daniel Jones, um, it 154 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: is a huge season you're rolling into because if he crumbles, uh, 155 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: he's out. So you can't. You can't. My issue was 156 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: more with Daniel Jones, with sitting pat at that quarterback situation. 157 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: I get it like they invested a lot and they're 158 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: not ready to jump ship on that. But he's sort 159 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: of run out of um, you know, lingering excuses even 160 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: last year could say without se Kwan and stuff around them, maybe, 161 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: but it Um, he isn't a quarterback that I would 162 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: view as someone that, hey, everyone around him is better 163 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: because Daniel Jones is here. It's like, can this guy 164 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: keep on hold of the ball? He's a turnover machine. Um, 165 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: he's got to work on his own game and make 166 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: use of Kenny Galladay. I mean, you could argue that 167 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: it's not a great landing spot for Kenny Golladay if 168 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: this offense continues to look stuck in the mud with 169 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett Collin plays that said. I do think that 170 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: the Giants went for it. They got the best wide 171 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: receiver on the market, and so critique off and let's 172 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: see how it goes. Well, it wasn't wasn't cheap. It's funny. 173 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: I saw some smart people saying, these wide receivers better 174 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: take these these deals quickly because this money, the big 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: money is not happening for you. And we saw a 176 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: couple of them did. We'll get to him, Juju will fuller. 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: But Galad I got that full money. He he this 178 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: is a real deal. Forty million guaranteed, really a fifty 179 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: four year, fifty four million dollar contract over the first 180 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: three years. That's top shelf money. I love it for 181 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I think he's played a little bit better 182 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: than people give them credit for. And I do think, 183 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: uh that the excuses that you can make for him 184 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: are enormous because I think it's not the weapons, just 185 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: the weapons and the run first approach with a bad 186 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: running game. It's one of the worst offensive lines in 187 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the league. And I've been hard on Sam Donald and 188 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: I think he probably deserves a little more leeway because 189 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. It's not about the weapons. Those 190 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: two guys were protected as poorly as any two quarterbacks 191 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: in the entire league. Joe Burrow I would throw in 192 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: there too, and so they haven't fixed that. So I'm 193 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: still a little worried. But I do like Shepherd and Ingram, 194 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: s Quan's back and Gola Day. It feels like at 195 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: least you've got a team here, we might uh see 196 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones has and be a little more fun 197 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: to watch. I would do. I would ask you a question, Greg, 198 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: because I remember after the Primetime game where Daniel Jones 199 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: had and Stumble, well you were well, I mean, I 200 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: was almost surprised with how strongly you buried the concept 201 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones sort of evolving into anything where I think, 202 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: if anything, I was probably more saying I still see 203 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: things him and I do here and there. It's just 204 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: never a lot of complete games. So did something happen 205 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: down the stretch with Daniel Jones that changed your opinion. 206 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: Did well. He was hurt too. I do think he 207 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: played better down the stretch. That's part of it. I 208 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: think I was a little emotional because I've been in 209 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: on Jones. I like watching him play, and maybe and 210 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, maybe the ceiling for him 211 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: isn't like top shelf, but I do think he played 212 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: better down the stretch. To answer that he had a 213 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: leg in or A big part of his game is 214 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: his mobility and his speed, and you kind of stripped 215 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: that away from him down the stretch last season. And 216 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: he obviously didn't have a true number one wide receiver. 217 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: You didn't have se Juan Barley Barkley for the whole season, 218 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: and Golladay that's top shelf money because he's a top 219 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: shelf player. He's a true number one wide receiver and 220 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: smack in the middle of his prime. And you mentioned Sandarnald. 221 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: This is what I had hoped for for him. I 222 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: had hoped that in the time that he had his 223 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: UH three years as a starter, at some point they 224 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: surrounded him with a true number one wide receiver, for instance, 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: Um and that never happened. And so I think with 226 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: the Giants. They set themselves up well here to get 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: one last look at Jones with a really good, uh 228 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: set of playmakers around him, and then if if he 229 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: doesn't play well, then you there's no questions and maybe 230 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: you draft someone at quarterback if you like someone this 231 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: year as well. But uh, I think this is a 232 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: really smart move for them. It'll be interesting to see, 233 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: um if Jones play does take a step in yours 234 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: while we're on the Giants. I do want to throw 235 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: and that. I thought it was interesting they signed Mike Glennon, 236 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: not because I'm a Mike Glennon fan, just because it 237 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: just shows where Daniel Jones is compared to the Drew 238 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Locks or the Donald certainly of the world, Like they 239 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: just signed like a full on backup that they're that's 240 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: not going to remotely compete with Dana Jones. You mentioned 241 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster and he is staying in Pittsburgh. This 242 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: went down on Friday. It's a one year, eight million 243 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: dollar contract and uh, Juju. Obviously, I don't think he 244 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: was expecting Kenny Gollada Kenny Golladay money necessarily, but he's 245 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: certainly thinking he was going to get a rich multi 246 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: year deal. After the first four years of his career 247 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, the market wasn't too hot. Uh So he 248 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: goes back to Pittsburgh on a one year, eight million 249 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: dollar deal, approve a deal essentially and one um that 250 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: um really works out well for the Stealers, Let's be honest, 251 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: because I think they had resigned themselves to losing um juju. 252 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: And according to reports, Mark he left some money on 253 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: the table to stay in Pittsburgh. The Ravens were among 254 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: the teams that were interested in bringing him in. The 255 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Ravens part um would have been juicy, But I don't 256 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: think that's if you're on a one year prove it deal. 257 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to find a team in the 258 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: a f C that I would that I would find 259 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: more of a The results could be so variable than 260 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: going to Baltimore. Maybe would work out, maybe they would 261 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: um open up that passing game a little bit more, 262 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: but it's certainly risky. Why not go back to a system, 263 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: into teammates and environment that you know so well. I mean, 264 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: you take all those ex factors out and you go 265 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: play the best version of yourself next season, And I think, 266 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: you know, maybe this is a player that lost a 267 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: little bit of potential money here and there, or suitors 268 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: based on the whole Juju experience, which, um, you know, 269 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: I get it. The Browns is the Browns. The dancing 270 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: on the logo and that's you know, that's fine, but 271 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: there's tons of players doing that and if anything like 272 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: while that maybe heated me up a little bit um 273 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: before the Browns week, and I think that actually affected 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: that game. I really do. But I would say this 275 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: like like a d D for instance, who is around 276 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers all the time, and other people who are 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: around Juju do also talk about him as one of 278 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the hardest working, best prepared guys who works on his 279 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: game tirelessly. So I don't think it's a character issue 280 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: at all. I think it's just that, you know what, 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: there's most reporters are in their thirties, forties and fifties, 282 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: and your players are in their twenties, and they're like TikTok. 283 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: The idea of TikTok maybe a noise um even people 284 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: like me at times, But I think there's very good 285 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: things on TikTok. If you take a look, if you 286 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: can find things you like, um, I would just say, 287 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: what are you into a lot of corners, a lot 288 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: of categories, and you know, I just there's there are 289 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: things to look into. I'll leave it at that. But um, 290 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't I think Juju has landed in the correct place. 291 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, seven catches eight hundred and thirty 292 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: one yards less season, which is a truly bizarre stat line. 293 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: And I think that hurt his market and depressed his 294 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: value as well, because it reinforced this notion that Smith 295 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: Schuster is not a true playmaker. He's a grinder. He's 296 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: a tough guy that will do the hard work, but 297 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: he's not going to be somebody that can light up 298 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: a team for fifteen hundred yards in a season. But 299 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: that's not quite fair either, because he did that once 300 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: apot a time about two years ago. Um. I think 301 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: it's a great set up um for the Steelers. Now 302 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: we just gotta see if he has a quarterback that 303 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: can get him the ball. It's funny though, Antonio Brown 304 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: was kind of right about Juju when he really slammed him. 305 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: He's like, that boy is not that guy is not 306 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: a number one. And think the two years since the 307 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: league agrees with Antonio Brown and sort of the Steelers 308 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: do too. Guys who played the slot and are rugged 309 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: and tough over the they don't tend to get paid. 310 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Guys on the outside get paid. That said, I look 311 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: at some of the contracts signed, Corey Davis is with 312 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: the Jets and Nelson Aguilar with the Patriots being the 313 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: ones that stand out. I'd rather have Juju than either 314 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: of those players for sure. Definitely more than all who 315 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: had played a lot in the slot and got sixteen guaranteed, 316 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, two for twenty. I don't know, but Juju 317 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: would be a great fit with the Patriots. By the way, 318 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if they just never thought his price would 319 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: get this Patriots. He is though he's a throwback in 320 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: terms of the way he played in his perfect world. 321 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: He is an Edelman Welker type. That's what I'm trying 322 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: to say. I'm just saying the things that Mark was 323 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: alluding to. That feels like something that maybe Bill what Okay, 324 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: that's that's and that a signing has been I mean, 325 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: that is getting killed by pe Well at this point 326 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: for being a jump quick paid too much for a 327 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: guy with questions of his own on the that one, 328 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: and I would say Davis too, but Agil are even 329 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: more so looks worse after the Juju and the Fuller 330 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: signings that they look worse. I don't know what it 331 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: would have taken, because the Jets talk to Shoot Smith 332 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Schuster as well. Would I'd rather have Jameson Crowder for 333 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: ten million or Schuster Smith Schuster for the same price. 334 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Smith Schuster, but I like I 335 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: like Jameson Crowder, I do I like Crowner. Um, all right, 336 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Will Fuller, he is a member of the Dolphins, which 337 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: feels like it was just fate. I feel like Will 338 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: Fuller was always on the Dolphins in some way, in 339 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: some reality, some universe out there, He's always been a 340 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: member of Miami Dolphins. Now he is in this one. Uh. 341 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: He signs a one year contract, and you know, he 342 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: kind of blew it. Let's face it, Um, he was 343 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: having his the breakout year everyone he expected UH with 344 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Houston last year after DeAndre Hopkins went out the door 345 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: in that um in for this trade, UH, and it 346 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: seemed like he was going to go into a contractor 347 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: here coming off a twelve yard season with ten touchdowns, 348 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: and then he gets pop for p d s UH 349 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: and get suspended for the last chunk of the season. 350 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: Uh so that depressed his market. Good for the Dolphins, 351 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: who now have a guy with huge upside. And I 352 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: like this one too, Greg because to a you want 353 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: to get a good idea of who this guy is 354 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: and what he can do. Um and if you as 355 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: we surround him with better weapons like the Giants just 356 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: did for their young quarterback, you're gonna get a better 357 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: chance to see whether he can really do it. Yeah, 358 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: you hit it on the head there. I think I 359 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: think that got overlooked that you know, they're two best 360 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: receivers were DeVante Parker and Ghazicki who's the tight end? Okay? 361 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: And then after that it was like a fall off 362 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: a cliff to like the Jachem Grant or Preston Williams 363 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: coming off in a c L like that was not 364 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: a good skill position group. I think it's it was 365 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: close to the Patriots as being uh you know, one 366 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: of the worst in the entire NFL. I think Fuller 367 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: isn't even better pick up than than Schuster. I love that. 368 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean I could see them resigning him to a 369 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: big contract in December or January, or using the franchise 370 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: tag because it goes well, I mean there are the 371 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't played more than eleven games since 372 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: his rookie year, UM half a decade ago, and we 373 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: I mean every year we've talked about when he's not 374 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: in that offense in Houston, like it changed markedly and 375 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: I think it will be the same in Miami. That 376 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: if they were to lose him for three or four games, 377 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: you're losing your deep threat. Maybe you know certainly that 378 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: they're ripe to draft someone too, but he adds an 379 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: element because I think too was in a tough situation 380 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: to your point of who the two leading receivers were 381 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: a year ago, A lot of contested catches, UM, a 382 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: lot of stuff over the middle, UM give to a 383 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: chance to throw deep and create big place. This doesn't 384 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson, the tackle who was as in terms of yeah, 385 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: one year drops in terms of where you are as 386 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: a professional. You could go across the spectrum out of 387 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: the football world. This this is pretty tough. One to 388 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: twenty nine overall. Picked by the Titans last year, they 389 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: identified him as a guy who can be a big 390 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: time tackle UH for years. He totally bombs UH in 391 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: terms behind the scenes, being on the field two trips 392 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: to the COVID list, H A d U I, all 393 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: that sort of sort of stuff that the Titans say, 394 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: we can't make this work. They essentially dump him to 395 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Isolah Wilson now has a fresh start 396 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, and what does he do. He shows 397 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: up late for his physical, then late for his on 398 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: boarding process, Then he skipped um voluntary workouts, and according 399 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: to the Miami Herald, he refused team efforts to help 400 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: him to get his life on track. So in two 401 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: weeks the Dolphins say, okay, we're done, and he cleared 402 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: And now he cleared waivers, which means his football career 403 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: could be over potentially less than a year after being 404 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: a first round pick in the NFL. It's kind of remarkable, 405 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: and not in a good way. I don't know why 406 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: if you're another team, you don't swoop in and grab 407 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: this guy in with him now. It's a like, you know, 408 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: I think it. It was the cherry on top of 409 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: a terrible, pretty terrible offseason for the Titans a year ago, 410 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: one that really cost them. I mean, if they made 411 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: different choices, they would have been a different team. They 412 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: were relying on him after letting Jack Conklin go and 413 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: other guys, and he does not show up for the challenge. 414 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: And these little things, Um, these are the little things 415 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: showing up to work on time. Uh, you know, putting 416 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: your best foot forward, X, Y and Z, and he 417 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: seems incapable of that. It just reminds you that a 418 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are immature. I mean, you've got 419 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: to there is something to be said about who you 420 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: are off the field. He kind of reminds me a 421 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: little bit for a comp like Justin Gilbert who was 422 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: a super high draft pick in Cleveland and basically, if 423 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to pick like the ten stupidest things you 424 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: could do to have your career fade away, he did them. 425 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: And Isaiah Wilson Um has also checked every possible box, 426 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: including getting COVID multiple times where he was caught at 427 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: like frat how I think it was like at a 428 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: frat house, Um frattonizing that's what you do at a 429 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: frat house with other people who were not you know, 430 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: quite troubling. I mean, he doesn't he's not into football. 431 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: It happens, you know, he's not does not seem that 432 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: interested in having an NFL career for whatever reason. It 433 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: might be a simple one where he's like he's just 434 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: not that into it. Um So, I don't know if 435 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: it's sad or or there might be more serious things 436 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: going on. I was gonna say that that would end 437 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: up being a simplification. He seems like a guy it's 438 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: a little bit lost at see he doesn't and it 439 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he has people that are there to 440 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: help them make the right decisions, or if there are people, 441 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: he's ignoring them. But it's it's pretty sad actually, because 442 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: if you take a step back and you don't think 443 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: about it, but then it's like it's like a twenty 444 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: two year old kid like and he's totally like, you know, 445 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: part of the French up his life right now and 446 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: only he can really get himself back on track and 447 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: right now he is off. Yeah, I had I had 448 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: a conversation about this actually someone over the weekend, and 449 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: it's my theory, Like I saw this tweak going around. 450 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, just because you're in the NFL doesn't 451 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: mean you like for ball, Like plenty of these guys 452 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: don't really like that much. And I thought, okay, well 453 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: that's I think the majority by far do because it's 454 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: so hard to get through. But I do think there 455 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: is like a subsection of NFL players, and it's often 456 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: the most talented ones who can get by enough with 457 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: their talent and they don't become like the best players 458 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: in the league. They probably are just like on your 459 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: roster and there maybe middle of the pack and they 460 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: can just like get by with their talent just because 461 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: they're talented enough, and they're they're not really that into it. 462 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: And um, I think I think he would have been. 463 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: He could have been in that category, but he doesn't 464 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: even make the bare minimum of Karen. Apparently, you know 465 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: that Greg had a spicy weekend when he was having 466 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: off the cuff conversations about Isaiah. This story named individual story. 467 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: It was an interesting story, alright. So off the field 468 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: issues have been an issue for Isaiah Wilson. Also off 469 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: the field issues a legend coming to the forefront here 470 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: around Deshaun Watson. This is a story that's getting bigger, 471 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: and um, now we have to track and see how 472 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: it plays out because there's a lawyer named Tony Buzzby 473 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: who said that twelve clients will sue the Texans quarterback 474 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: for a legend misconduct misconduct during massage sessions, and the 475 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: latest of those lawsuits is on an incident that happened 476 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: allegedly just this month. So it is now officially up 477 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: to eleven. So he promised twelve. It's the official count 478 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: is eleven. At a Friday press conference, Buzzby said that 479 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: the misconduct continued even after this started to pick up 480 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: some steam as something that was happening happening these lawsuits 481 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: and the league is monitoring and investigating the situation. He 482 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: could be disciplined Watson under the Personal Conduct Policy UM, 483 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: he could face criminal charges. That is still in play, 484 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: so we have to learn more about this. But at 485 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: a time with Deshaun Watson is the centerpiece of the 486 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: NFL in terms of intrigue. He wants out of Houston. 487 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Now there is a huge off the field issue around him, 488 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: and you just wonder how that's going to play a 489 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: part in whether he stays, goes, or even comes off 490 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: the field entirely. And I think it's it's impossible to 491 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: say right now let's start there, But I do think 492 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: the story, as you mentioned, Dan, transitions at some point 493 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: as the number of UM women accusing him piled up, 494 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: that this is beyond like not nothing, like this is 495 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: not nothing. This is not something they can put to 496 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: the side. That the chargers also are getting increasingly serious. 497 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I went through and read all like 498 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of the different charges and you know, some 499 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: of them, some of them involved you know, him him touching, 500 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: and initially the first couple of ones were a little 501 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: more vague. But he has the texts and he has 502 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: like some social media stuff that he's putting as part 503 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: of it, and it's it's very serious and it complicates it. 504 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: And you do think about previous UM domestic domestic cases, 505 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: like you know, conduct policy cases. I'm thinking Jamis Winston specifically, 506 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: he got suspended for that UM for what he did, 507 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: and I think we have to see how this, you know, 508 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: goes from here. But it makes it really complicated UM 509 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: for for Watson, for the Texans, for for everyone. I 510 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: think also if you're like Peter King pointed out, and 511 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, if you're into football, maybe you don't know 512 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: some of how the legal stuff goes. But if it's civil, 513 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: these are civil suits and you can't be put on 514 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: the Commissioner's exemple list. And with civil suits, if it 515 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: moved to criminal suits. That's when guys like Adrian Peterson 516 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: and ray rice Um were put on those lists, because 517 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: that's the distinction there. Um. But another thing that you 518 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: point out from a football angle that I I think 519 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: it's just um weighs heavy over the next month plus 520 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: is that we're about thirty eight days away from the draft, 521 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: and you know we've all talked about any sort of 522 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade obviously has to happen. It could be 523 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: close to the draft, but before the draft, so that 524 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: teams know, whatever team would be, you know what they're 525 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: doing a quarterback, including the Texans, and thirty eight days, um, 526 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: with all this stuff thrown into it is a very 527 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: short amount of time and it could just leave all 528 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: of this um in a very weird place. And you wonder, 529 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean, based on how all this goes, where does 530 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson's playing it all next year or if he's 531 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: playing and it's it's it's a wait and see. You know, 532 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: I think you have to push pause on the whole thing. 533 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: If from a football perspective, because if you're the Texans, 534 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: well the Texans, as we understand it, don't want to 535 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: trade Deshaun Watson. But if they if they felt like 536 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: they had to and they didn't have a choice. You're 537 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna want to move him for you know, a mountain. 538 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna want to be able to restock your franchise 539 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: with that trade. And if you're another team, are you 540 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna trade away your future for a guy that has 541 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: an unsettled legal situation and not just you know, a 542 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: one off case or some kind uh an alleged pattern 543 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: of behavior that is really messy and disturbing and that 544 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: is not necessarily got you want to mortgage your future 545 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: over until you find out whether or not, you know, 546 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: just gets cleared up in courts one way or the other. 547 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: So it does feel like and as Mark mentioned, with 548 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: the draft here, it all makes sense that you would 549 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: want to do a trade before the draft. But maybe 550 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that's just not the way this is gonna work out anymore. 551 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: It is very messy. Oh my goodness. I think I 552 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: think if it was someone other than Watson, the story 553 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: would have accelerated even faster. I think his reputation and 554 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: all the other things that he's done in his career 555 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: and his life and his relationships and everything almost was 556 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, give gives him some benefit of the doubt 557 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: in terms of how it just was being handled publicly, 558 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, like for one or two of these complaints 559 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: when they first popped up, and there's a lot of 560 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: focus on the lawyer and in different things, and that's 561 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: all you know, worth having context about. Um. But I 562 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: think if it doesn't matter who you are, what's happened before, 563 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: if you put the same circumstances with any player in 564 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, would be like incredibly serious. Much less a 565 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: guy who's a franchise quarterback and you know, potentially getting 566 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: traded right now. I mean, I think the things you 567 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: can't get out of here without noting that when it 568 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: started and it was just there were whispers of this 569 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, this lawyer lives essentially sort 570 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: of kitty corner to the Houston Texans owner that there 571 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: were layers of what is this seems potentially fishy? We 572 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: want let's take you know, of course, just wait and see. 573 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: But to the point that you made are worth the 574 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: number of cases and the frequency and these similarities of 575 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: them all, it's just pretty dense and intricate, intricate and 576 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: so um. You know, our job it really is just 577 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: to not assume, just to wait and find out how 578 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: the legal side of it carries out. But I mean, 579 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: the timing could not be thorn here. It's interesting how 580 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: the story has been covered because you're right, it pops 581 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: up at a time where the Texans in terms of 582 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: pr could not be worse right now about who's running 583 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: the franchise, how it's being run, and how they're desperate 584 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: to keep this guy. And then the conspiracy theories about oh, well, 585 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: maybe this is one way to make that happen to 586 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: depress his trade market. But now you don't. And then 587 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: you have this lawyer and it was like the way 588 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: he came out and initially it seemed like he was 589 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: an ambulance chaser type guy, that he shouldn't be taken seriously, 590 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: that he's looking for publicity. But that feels that feels 591 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: like it's shifted over the past week. So we will 592 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: continue uh to track this story, as unpleasant as it is. 593 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Back to football. Nice signing here by the Denver Broncos 594 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: who pick up Kyle fuller Um, a really solid cornerback 595 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: formerly of the Chicago Bears. It's a one year, nine 596 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: and a half million dollar deal. Uh. Nice spot there 597 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: for vic Faia. They have experience together from their days 598 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: in Chicago and Greg just so happens that the Broncos 599 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: really needed another corner back and now they have a 600 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: really solid one to pair with Ronald Darby and and oh, 601 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: by the way, Justin Simmons, one of the best safeties 602 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: in the league, just signed an extension. Things are set 603 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: up well in the back end, and then I like 604 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: their offseason a lot. They also brought back Shelby Harris, 605 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: who was one of my favorites at defense. I think 606 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: I should expect to be in the top five because 607 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: they're they're a defense heavy team right now. They need 608 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: that defense because they're spending there. They have a great coach, 609 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: great system, Von Miller's coming back. That's the type of 610 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: defense the Broncos can have. I think from the Bears perspective, 611 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: if you want to pile on the Bears for anything 612 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: over the last week, it's not the Andy Dalton signing. 613 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: It's the Kyle Fuller release. It's the fact that you 614 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: were trying to trade Kyle Fuller and probably a Chem 615 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: Hicks to the Seahawks for Russell Wilson right before you 616 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: cut Phillier Fuller. That you mismanage your cap to the 617 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: point where you have to cut a really good player. 618 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: I said, you know earlier this month, though they're not 619 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: cutting players they want to keep. Maybe the Bears are 620 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: an exception to because Fuller is still playing at a 621 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: high level. But you you kind of mismanaged everything where 622 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: yet there's been a few exceptions, Mr, There's been a few, 623 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: but by general point remains. I stand by it. One 624 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: of the one of the legs of your table, your 625 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: soapbox right now. But there a couple of exceptions that 626 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: prove the rule. But the Ryan Pace has blown this. 627 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: You gotta stand behind me on that point. Uh. It 628 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: really makes no sense. It makes no sense, and I 629 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: love it for Denver he has I mean, also, Kyle 630 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: Fuller couldn't know Vick Fongio any better, and well it's 631 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: a great signing. If you don't you don't wonder if 632 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: he'll fit into that system, you know he will. And 633 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: if you're the Broncos and Vic Fongio is your coach, 634 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing other than building up that defense 635 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: to the best it can be. He's not. He's an 636 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: old school type of higher If the defense isn't like 637 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: loaded at every position, it's a it's a weakness. And 638 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I know a bunch of listeners have been telling us 639 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: that we've been calling the general manager his name is 640 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: George Payton a warding into some Um, we don't re 641 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: refuse to acknowledge that, not to recognize it. Sure, we're 642 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: not dumb to the suggestion. We just refuse to to 643 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: to give into that. We have our own name for 644 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: him and General Patton military marching music, Ricky, that would 645 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: be nice, Yes, Peyton, we already got a Painton. Okay, 646 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: we don't need to complicate things. And plus we had 647 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: a George Patton and he was a General Patton, and 648 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: this Patton as a general manager. It's too pit, it's 649 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: too perfect exact from a wordplay angle. You can't ignore it. Please. 650 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: It's like some people on this network, an NFL network, 651 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: called me hand zoos and they like check started it, 652 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: and it's stuck a little bit. I could go around 653 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: spending my life correcting people, as I've had to do, 654 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: but at a certain point I was just like, you 655 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: know what if certain people like hitting my last name 656 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: in a different way, Um, even if they know that 657 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: it's been said multiple ways, whatever you feel works and 658 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: for our podcast in our league, it's George Patton. It's 659 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: the general. You are. You are the old What happened 660 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: to Daddy Rich? Though I thought you're you're floating. People 661 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: have multiple options and how they would like to address you. 662 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: Daddy Rich is one that never really got off the ground, 663 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: but it was officially thrown out there. The New Old 664 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Blue Eyes is another option. I mean, there's just you've 665 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: got a lot of directions. The new Old Blue Eyes. 666 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: That one's good, that's catching a little fire, that one's where, 667 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: that's bubbling up, and who knows very strong it might 668 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: be turning into you know how like nobody calls hi 669 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Matt Smith. In fact, my old neighbor now that I've moved. 670 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: But she was asking me right before I moved, you 671 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: know about what it's been like doing shows during the pandemic. 672 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: And I told her, oh, yeah, you know, doing the 673 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: podcast and we have a show and also do this 674 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: power ranking show with Matt Money Smith. She's like, oh, 675 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: you know Matt Smith. It's like, yeah, I know money 676 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: right guy. Oh we love Matt Smith. We listened to 677 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: a show every day. It's like, who calls him Matt Smith? 678 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: You know what's so funny? Like I had you know 679 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: how Facebook, they'll throw you suggestions on who to add 680 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: as a friend, and I was looking at them and 681 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: it was like become friends with Matt Smith. And I 682 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know anyone named Matt Smith. And 683 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, that's money, And like 684 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: I realized, I totally get why he injected the his 685 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: birth name with a with a saucy nickname in between, 686 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: because it changes the entire energy. Everything changes throwing money. 687 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: And that's why the new Old Blue Eyes. I don't 688 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: know if that ends up being my thing, where my 689 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: when you see my nameplate on NFL network is gonna 690 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: say Dan new Old Blue Eyes hands. That's in play maybe, 691 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: but I don't know for sure. I don't control it. 692 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm more interested just that you that 693 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: your vision of yourself was throwing this nickname out there. 694 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: That's the nickname, the nickname you want, don't know. I 695 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: just go with the flow. I just go with the floe, 696 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: all right. Chris Carson went with the flow, and it 697 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: took him right back to Seattle. Nailed it two years, 698 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: fourteen point six million. Uh, there's one of those stupid 699 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: void years in there now that that can't be new, 700 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like that's being stressed more this year. 701 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: People are like, like that Taysom Hill contract, which is 702 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: not to get off off track here, but we never 703 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: really dug in on it. Taysom Hill got the onety 704 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: million dollar extension, which clearly isn't that but why did 705 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: they have to make it so giant? Was that? Was 706 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: that trolling people that don't understand the salary cap or 707 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: me specifically, I don't know why was that contract so giants? 708 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: It's for voids every year? It's like that's like, oh no, 709 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: don't take the contracts seriously. It has voids after each year. 710 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: Like again, not to hit on this again, but what 711 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Well? What are we doing here? 712 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Why does that make some complicated? I think probably appeases 713 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: certain the egos of certain agents where they know that 714 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: a vast majority outside of like sort of something you know, 715 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: a group of nerds, not I wanna call the nerds, 716 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: but like people that understand numbers, um, they're going to 717 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: see through that. That Hayes right away. But the most 718 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: football fans think that Taystom Hill sign this monster contract 719 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: until smarter people like ten minutes later describe it initially 720 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: you don't have your average guy or girl just saying like, 721 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: well wait a minute, that contract looks voidable and strange, 722 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: like you need like that layer of looks to come 723 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: into market, go check out. Like whoever it was, whether 724 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: it's rap sheet or chefter, I don't know who it was. 725 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: That the initial tweet of the numbers, and then look 726 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: at all the replies like the next five days just 727 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: totally and then within three hours like calmer heads have 728 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: come in and said, this is probably what's really happening 729 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: with the financials here to your point, to answer your question, Dan, 730 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: taste Mark doesn't do a lot of voices, just have 731 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: to say maybe we need have more assessler voice worker. 732 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who that was was Liken pff like 733 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: under score cap expert. I feel like just general like 734 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: a snob. He's like a snob at a country club 735 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: from an eighties movie, Um saying, I would say to 736 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: answer your question, Yes, the Taysom Hill thing was was 737 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: what was the word you use? It was it was 738 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: having a little fun with us, trolling us. Yes, it 739 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: was because his contract, unlike some of these others, didn't 740 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: have anything real in it. They just they just were met. 741 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: They were just messing around. They weren't adding anything to 742 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: reel to his contract. And you're right, these voids and 743 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: they've been around a little bit, but they've been growing, 744 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: and it's been it's all Loomis in New Orleans who 745 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: really brought it to the forefront um and the Drew Brees, 746 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: like all of Drew Brees contracts lately have had these voids. 747 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: And then the Patriots copied it with Brady and like 748 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: now it's like everyone's just going void wild, you know what, 749 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: I hope because I don't like being trolled. I don't 750 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: like people being showing and and say, oh look I 751 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: know the caps so well, I could you know, I 752 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: can make this a billion dollar contract if I want. 753 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: I want something to happen with all old Mickey blue 754 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: Eyes himself Loomis. I want him to somehow miss something 755 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: in the notes and to end up being a guaranteed 756 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: a hundred and forty millions to Taste in Hill, Like 757 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: he just gets banged for being the show off. That's 758 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: what he desire. I think it's sad and to Who's 759 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: just like, well, we gotta do we gotta do this 760 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: crazy void with someone who should we do it with 761 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, let's do it with taste, and 762 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: that don't really get them going Chris Carson back to 763 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Chris Carson. Yes, good job by the Seahawks. Another guy 764 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: that you kind of thought might end up leaving and 765 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: making that team weaker as a result, but he comes 766 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 1: back on a team friendly deal, I like to think, 767 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: and when he's right, which isn't always the case with 768 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: health issues with Chris Carson Mark, but when he's right, 769 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: he's a really good freaking running backs and they got 770 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: him back in the fold. I I he's the kind 771 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: of running back that I kind of just like, and 772 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: I think he makes the Seahawks fun when he's on 773 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: his game. I mean, if you go back to seventeen, 774 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: I think he's fourth in the league and sort of 775 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: tackle breaking elusiveness, creating yards after contact, that kind of 776 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: those kind of metrics. And you know, they also acquired 777 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson from the Raiders, So I think there's something 778 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: here where it's like, let's we're trying to show you, 779 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, we want We're not just appeasing you, but 780 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: we do want to put the parts around you to 781 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: quell this storm. Um, because if the Dashaun thing goes south, 782 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: there may be extra attention on making this Russell Wilson 783 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: thing happen. If you're one of these teams that doesn't 784 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: have a chance to draft, you want to go swing 785 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: for the fences. The spotlight turns to Russell Wilson. I 786 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: think you're peak Carroll. The Seahawks are saying, we're getting 787 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: you a right guard, We're getting your running back back here, 788 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: we have a draft coming up. Bang, I am here. 789 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: I feel like they've had a curious offseason, though I 790 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: know their fans do, and I share that that they 791 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: they really valued Uh signing Carson and then trading for 792 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson, who's making ten million dollars. Meanwhile you didn't 793 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: and signing Gerald Everett, the tight end from the Ramps 794 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: for seven million. Like that money adds up to a lot. 795 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: And you chose not to keep Dumblop. You don't really 796 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 1: have a a pass for us. You chose to keep 797 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: Jaren read Over. Uh, some of these other guys the 798 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. Okay, Gabe Jackson, and you resigned Poe Chick. 799 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, I contract was out of control. Yeah, 800 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: it was fourteen million but I'd rather have done Loped 801 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: than Everett uh and Carson or Everett and Gabe Jackson. 802 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: However you want to add it up. I think there's 803 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot of grumbling going on in Seattle right now 804 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: about how their team is being run by the fans, 805 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: and I get it. I do. And by the way, 806 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: and this is quieted down since the trade, but they 807 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: still have to pay Jamal Adams. They gave up two 808 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: first round picks for that guy, and he's gonna be 809 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: wanting to be paid at a a market resetting level contract. 810 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you delay too long on that, 811 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: he will start to let you know about it. And 812 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: I know from experience you don't want to go down 813 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: that road with Jamal Adams. Uh. So yes, it's going 814 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: to be I think we talked about this um with 815 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: Mike Dugard when he was on the show. Uh. And 816 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: this feels like such a pivotal year in the future 817 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: for the future of the Seattle Seahawks, like everything can change, 818 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: uh if things go poorly, and conversely if things go 819 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: really well, if they're back in the super Bowl. But 820 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: this is all gonna be forgotten. But we'll see what happens. Uh. 821 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: Moving on. He would have been nice for the Patriots. 822 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: By the Waycress Carson, you're gonna fall back. Yeah. I 823 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: really like Chris Carson. I just was surprised that he 824 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: got so much. It shows the Seahawks priorities. Yeah. I 825 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: would have loved him on the Patriots for for a 826 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: lower price or what or for any price. Well, I'm 827 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: not the one pay and what do I care? Well, 828 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: those guys are. The Patriots probably would have overpaid him 829 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: twice with Seattle, didn't I think they were. They must 830 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: have been in on in on him pretty hard, and 831 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: that's why he got so much. I think from Seattle. 832 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: I said that Will Fuller and the Dolphins felt like 833 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: it was always meant to be. Uh. I kind of 834 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: feel the same way about the Sean Jackson and the Rams. 835 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't he feel like a guy that was always gonna 836 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: end up on Rams and now he's there. He signs 837 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: a one year contract, so he'll be catching passes. It's 838 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: a good thought, Matthew Stafford throwing passes the DeShawn Jackson 839 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: deep down the field. The problem is the man cannot 840 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: cannot stay healthy. We all know that. So he's thirty four. 841 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: Now those paper machee hamstrings. I don't imagine they're gonna 842 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: get stronger as he enters his mid thirties. I've just 843 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: been through a week of moving and my body is 844 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: in a full on revolt, just the aches and pains 845 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: of lifting boxes and putting together things and going up 846 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: and downstairs. For Sean Jackson, it's gonna be tough for 847 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: him to stay healthy. But if he ever did, if 848 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: he ever did, he'd be a star. My guess is 849 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 1: it's for very very little money. The money hasn't come out, 850 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: so my guess it's it's just kind of a flyer. 851 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad as a fan because I I just 852 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: don't like DeShawn Jackson going out on too total injury 853 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: plague years the league. More is more fun watching him, 854 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: and as recently as a week sixteen last year, whenever 855 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: he plays, he like rips off an eight yard touchdown. 856 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: You remember that that touchdown he had from Jalen Hurts. 857 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: It was against the Cowboys. So like, even though he 858 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: never plays, he seems to get a seven yard touchdown 859 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: every time he plays. So, I mean he hasn't he 860 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: hasn't had a full seasons in seven years. Um, but 861 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: I think this is a swan that's there. Yeah, it's 862 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: you get like eight great games out of him for 863 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: a million or two million dollars, which eight is, which 864 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,479 Speaker 1: is what I would think, which is what I would 865 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: guess he was signed for. Then it's eight quarters eight 866 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: quarters quarter un there. I really do think so, And like, 867 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the problem is the Eagles were 868 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: legit counting on him the last two years. And you're 869 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: right though if you go back to the opener in 870 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he blew up Washington and it was like 871 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: this guy still can play, but you're but he can 872 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: only play one or two weeks a year. I mean, 873 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: but Sean McVeigh got the best out of in Washington. 874 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: I think this is a relationship signing. And they lost 875 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Um Josh Reynolds was signed by the Titans. 876 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: So you've got Cooper copy, You've got Van Jefferson, so 877 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: he has a chance to see targets and snaps. If 878 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: to dance point the paper set hamstrings. You know, if 879 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: you get too much heat on paper machete, it's gluey 880 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: and it it goes back to that. It's not you know, 881 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't keep its form. You know, I like that 882 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: that that whole we could go wrong. He you know, 883 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: he's an exciting athlete and all that, but I don't 884 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: I don't want him on my team. I just feel 885 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: like it's not weeks one and two about I guess 886 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: I got to see the money, but as like a 887 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: fourth receiver for two or three million dollars or third receiver. Okay, 888 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean that that is the limit though, and maybe yeah, yeah, 889 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: they're fact they're paying um, you know their top two 890 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: guys good money would uh and Cup and the and 891 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, the fact that he's still in the league 892 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: at this point is a testament to when he has 893 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: been on the field, because otherwise, I mean, his body 894 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: is clearly telling the National Football League I can't do this. 895 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: I can't play football on your team because this doesn't 896 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's not gonna work. I want to, 897 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: I can want to, I'd love to. I will not 898 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: cooperate with you for three months. I just can't do it, 899 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: let alone three weeks. Little wouldn't it be worth it 900 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 1: for like one Matthew Stafford seventy five yard you'll get 901 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: in the air bomb to him that I just looked beautiful. 902 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: Give me one two million to work one week a year, 903 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 1: and I will give you something special in that week. 904 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: You'll you won't forget it, Greg, Greg Rosethal. Rams fans 905 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: out there, savor that incoming eighty four yard touchdown. It 906 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: will be cool. You're down. This was exciting. This was 907 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 1: the first ever NFL news I can remember. My my wife, 908 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: Emmica broke to me because she's on some mailing list 909 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: because she bought my daughter a Rams T shirt. And 910 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: it was like they were they were out front with 911 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: this de Sean Jackson news right off the bat. But 912 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: you're busy talking Isaiah you know whatever his name is, 913 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: to like random sources stuff right off. Right after we 914 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: got off the podcast air on Thursday, as this always happens, 915 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: big news went down in the NFL Business News. The 916 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: league announced a new eleven year deal with its television 917 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: partners UM. According to the AP, the NFL will earn 918 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: a total of one and thirteen billion a billion with 919 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: a B from the deal, and it will run through 920 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: the twenty thirty three season unless the NFL opts out, 921 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: which they can, I believe in seven or eight years. Uh, 922 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will. And then sign something worth 923 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, trillion, twelve trillion dollars maybe next deal anyway, 924 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy, but in terms of what it means 925 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: to you the football fan, a few notes and then 926 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you guys if you had anything 927 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: else you took out of it. Uh. Number one, we 928 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: don't get any of the money that should be note. UM, 929 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: Monday night games starting will be flexible starting in week twelve. 930 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: That's interesting. There will be more Monday doubleheaders. Uh, there's 931 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: going to be a Saturday double header. This is all 932 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of years down the line, 933 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: but Saturday double header during the final week of the 934 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: season with teams that have playoff UM aspire ations. That 935 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: so that's flexible. And Thursday night football is headed to 936 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: Amazon and a full time capacity starting in which is 937 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: obviously a total game changer. Uh for UM Television. The 938 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: idea that watching a primetime spotlight Island NFL game now 939 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: you would only be able to do it unless you 940 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: had your computer internet hook up. UM. And that's that's 941 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: a game changer, and that looks like the future. Yeah, 942 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: the home markets will will get those Amazon games. I 943 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: was curious about that on some sort of over the 944 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: air TV. But if nationally, yeah, you'll have to have 945 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. That that changes. It's a bummer here for 946 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: for us At NFL Network, they said the net NFL 947 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: Network will have a small, you know, selected series of games. 948 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: It's a little unclear what that would be. Maybe holidays 949 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: or Saturdays. Well, we'll see, um. But it just it 950 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: just goes to so coming off the pandemic UM to 951 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,479 Speaker 1: be able to do this is wild. And I love 952 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 1: the fact that they're going to be flexing Monday night. 953 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it should it shouldn't go 954 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: without saying, uh, seventeen weeks starting starting this season. That's 955 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: part of it too. That's not official, I guess, but 956 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's close to as official. 957 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: We've been calling for more flexing UM and as as 958 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: of others for a long time, so I love that 959 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: they're open to that. I do wonder who would be 960 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: the announcers for the Amazon UM scenario. Maybe you still 961 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: you know TVD on that. Here's one little thing that's 962 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: stuck out for me because how long have we been 963 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: watching football where Network A owns the a f C 964 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: and Network B owns the NFC and all of that 965 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: is going away, that the there is no more CBS 966 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: um a f C partnership and Fox NFC marriage, that 967 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: it's all being dissolved. And I find that fascinating, um too. 968 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe that's just a nerdy thing, but I 969 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: grew up with NBC UM being tied at the hip 970 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: to the a f C that became CBS. But Foxes 971 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: been with the NFC for so long, and all of 972 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: that's being thrown into a soup um, which I think 973 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 1: is causing may cause some consternation because you don't have 974 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: those you can't rely on those certain properties, um if 975 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: you're one of those networks, those certain teams year after year. 976 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how they figure that out. 977 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: But I think most of this is how lucky that 978 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: they signed that c B A when they did none 979 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 1: of the I don't none of this would be happening 980 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: right now. They got that thing out in time, at 981 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: the weirdest time in our our nation's history to be 982 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: signing massive contracts. Get your get your TV, by the way, 983 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: you know how like each each network as their own 984 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: you know, streaming platform, like if you don't if you're 985 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: a cord Cutter. You can get Paramount Plus and you'll 986 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: get NFL games. That's gonna get everyone to you know, 987 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: sign up for Paramount Plus. But Foxes, you know, streaming 988 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: thing is called to be to you b I, so 989 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: you might have some NFL to Yeah. To Be has 990 00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: a separate version of NFL Network. Um that just all 991 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: sorts of other program and it's pretty good. Sorry, probably 992 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: didn't need to jump in to talk to be, but 993 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: I just like the word to be t u b I, 994 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: let's do it. I like, I just like an entire 995 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: show that just Marking Gregg breaking down the streaming wars. 996 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: Who needs Marshot going upstream with Cessler and I would 997 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: be the Robin to Greg's batman on that front. He 998 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: is like obsessed with television deals. Uh, let's hit eight 999 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: o'clock to light. Philip Lindsay, formerly of the Broncos, signs 1000 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: a one year, three point to five million dollar contract 1001 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: with the Texans, the Texans who also just signed mark 1002 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: Ingram and also brought back David Johnson. Okay, they've they've 1003 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: signed twelve different players to one year, three million dollar contracts, 1004 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: but this was maybe my favorite one. This one in 1005 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: Desmon King. I don't hate what they're doing a little 1006 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: bit because they can reset the board next year, run 1007 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: a little single wing with all three running backs and 1008 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Wow. Uh, Cincinnati Bengals. They finally add someone 1009 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: to their offensive line as Riley reeve recently been with 1010 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: the Vikings. They also, as we know, let A j. 1011 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: Green walk in free agency, while they also say goodbye 1012 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: to thirty two year old Geno Atkins, the great defensive tackle, 1013 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: who is cut after eleven years and Cincinnati injuries have 1014 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: taken their toll rank. They have potential Hall of Famer. 1015 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: I think I'll get another job, and and I know 1016 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: I know you are worried about Burrow, so at least trying. 1017 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: They're trying. They they better use that first round picking 1018 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: the draft on a tackle. We'll see Sheldon Rankins, formerly 1019 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 1: of the Saint Size of two year, seventeen million dollar contract. 1020 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,760 Speaker 1: Another guy that's been dealing with injuries. He's now joining 1021 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: a Jets defensive line that needed um a little more depth. 1022 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: What do you think about Rankings great big upside his 1023 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: eighteen season, he was awesome. That's a it's a nice signing. 1024 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: Birth to that. In two thousand eighteen He had eight 1025 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: sacks and forced to fumble eight sixteen starts for Sean Payton. 1026 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: All right, Xavier Rhodes resigned by the Colts one year, 1027 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: six and a half million. Uh, what do you think? 1028 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: More we I think Matt Eberflus got the best out 1029 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: of him last year after he really kind of crashed 1030 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: and burned in Minnesota. So why not? They could use 1031 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,959 Speaker 1: the extra pass rush though, That makes the secondary better. 1032 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, fired by the Falcons, resurfaces as d C 1033 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, and now he brings along one of 1034 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: his former guys, Dan O'Neill, the linebackers safety one year, 1035 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: five million dollars. Yeah, they're trying out a few other 1036 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: ex Falcons. It's like, yeah, let's let's get the whole 1037 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: Falcons defense back together. That was a great group. It's 1038 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: gonna play linebackers. Sorry, he's a good Effony Harris with 1039 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: safety signs of one year, five million dollar deals with 1040 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 1: the Eagles. I like this player and they got him 1041 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: for five million. That's a good bargain. I mean he 1042 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: he played with their new defensive coordinator, Jonathan gannet So 1043 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: good job to Brown signings. Troy Hill cornerback four years 1044 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: twenty four million, and also Malik Jackson signs as well 1045 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 1: with a it's formerly every eagerly. I think that John 1046 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 1: Johnson Troy Hill signings were quietly some of the best 1047 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: work in the f C perfect eight o'clock. Well, listen, Mark, 1048 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: you you're feeling good about the Browns, aren't you. You've 1049 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: you've kind of you've ducked into slack it for a 1050 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: couple of times of a couple of texts. You had 1051 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,760 Speaker 1: a high coup on our network show. What are we thinking? 1052 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: I think the high coup is really just a way 1053 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: to um continue to troll Big Bend in the whole 1054 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: concept the Big Ben returning this season. But I do think, um, 1055 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm and I'm not saying this, but I've seen some 1056 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: reports saying they think that the Browns have one of 1057 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: the most well rounded rosters um in the conference, and 1058 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: I think it's fair. I mean, they needed to address secondary. 1059 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: They still have a few other things to do, and 1060 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: maybe we could get out into that segment if we 1061 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: wanted to. But Mark has a lot emotionally invested right 1062 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: now in not just the Browns, as he always does, 1063 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: but in the Browns bringing about the demise of the Steelers. 1064 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: So that'll be a good well if it goes south 1065 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 1: this year, right, if that goes south, or if it 1066 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: just goes back to the norm of before last season, 1067 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: or really just before last wild card game. Um, there 1068 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: will I will be punished by many from the Pittsburgh 1069 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: area on Twitter. This this is setting up, though potentially 1070 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: as the true Now, the playoff game was a lot 1071 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 1: of fun, but maybe Mark, truly the tables turned starting 1072 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: and you become the bully? And how will you handle that? 1073 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: Will you comport yourself in a way that you felt 1074 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers fans didn't always handle their business the right way? 1075 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: Will you handle yourself with dignity if that happens? I 1076 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: hope I would, But I would say it's very up 1077 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: in the air because, Um, I'm already noticing that my 1078 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: behavior is becoming less kouth um post wild card game, 1079 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm starting to inhabit some of the traits that I 1080 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: found unlikable in others. Um, all right, let's let's uh 1081 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: before we say goodbye quickly, let's talk about it. Um. 1082 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: Teams that still have work to do, whether it's gonna 1083 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: be free agency or the draft, Mark, you want to 1084 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: get going. I will I thought that the Jaguars um, 1085 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of places you go here. I 1086 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: thought the Jaguars were a logical landing spot for like 1087 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: a Hunter Henry type or maybe even a John new 1088 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: Smith UM. And obviously no one UM. But the Patriots 1089 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: snagged both of those guys. They let Josh Oliver go, 1090 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: who was a bust. UM. They have Trevor Lawrence coming 1091 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: in borrowing something you know, unexpected. You'd love to give 1092 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, even if you're as good as Trevor Lawrence, 1093 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,240 Speaker 1: like a security blanket. I think that's something like Sam 1094 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: Donald's missed in New York, for instance, because they've had 1095 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: issues at that position and health. They've got your dude 1096 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: Chris man Hurts lined up to play snaps and John 1097 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: and James O'Shaughnessy. I like the idea of James O'shanny 1098 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: on your roster doing one or two things, but not 1099 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: as like these two guys. As you're um starting tight ends. 1100 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: So there are UM, they're in tough position because there 1101 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: are a couple of good tight ends in the draft, 1102 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: but they're not going to go in that direction in 1103 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: the first round. UM, and they're kind of out of 1104 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: luck right now, so I think it's a position that 1105 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: they need to look into. I I did a best 1106 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: worst contracts um piece for NFL dot Com that's going 1107 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: up this week. I'm not sure when uh and the 1108 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars were on the worst because they were they were 1109 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: the one team that I felt like like all these 1110 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: deals were below what you expected, except if you signed 1111 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: with Jacksonville like they where there was like the top 1112 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: of the market where everyone was about where you thought 1113 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: and then a lot of bargains except for Jacksonville giving 1114 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of money to Roy Roberts and Harris 1115 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: and Malcolm Brown and Marvin Jones and ray Sean Jenkins 1116 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: and Riff and their their cornerback that they got Um. 1117 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: I just felt like they paid a premium. I don't 1118 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: know if that was like a hey, we're bad where 1119 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars premium or what, But they don't know if 1120 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: they had a great month. It feels like a trend 1121 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: belki Um premium. That was an interesting person to hire 1122 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: a GM UM. Let's go with Miami. It seems weird 1123 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: because they just signed Fuller and yet I like want 1124 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: more I just got. Maybe it was expectations being too 1125 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: high that I thought they were going to do a 1126 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,919 Speaker 1: lot this offseason, and they got rid of some good 1127 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: players and they you know, they brought in Fuller, they 1128 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: brought in Justin Coleman, who's a slot corner, but especially 1129 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: on offense, where I'm not totally convincing that offensive line, 1130 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: no matter how much Handsome Hank says they're better than 1131 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: I think that they're great. And then you know, I 1132 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: just want more receiving weapons. And I thought they'd bring 1133 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: in a nice running back there. So maybe that's the draft, 1134 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: Maybe that's bargains in free agency. There's still players out there, 1135 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: but I want to see more out of the Dolphins. 1136 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: That makes sense. But I do like I like that 1137 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: they haven't panicked and and we'll see maybe something changes 1138 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: between now and the draft. But I never liked that 1139 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: idea of pivoting away from to a potentially or going crazy, 1140 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: Um I would like I think it would be totally 1141 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: It would be nonsense if you Assent really soured on 1142 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: to a based on last year, which had so many 1143 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: obstacles against him. So I like the Fuller sign it, 1144 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: but you say I want more. Maybe it's the running 1145 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: game you want them. Yeah, I think there were um 1146 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: to some degree, but even another it's just a thinner 1147 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: group than you'd like. They did sign Matt Scura, the 1148 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: Ravens center, who I believe was the one that was 1149 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: struggling with snaps and my crazier here the one that 1150 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: got hurt. Either way, they did sign a center, but 1151 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: I I want them to like take the next step, 1152 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the raster not sure if I 1153 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: see it. I think in another world they could have 1154 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: gone after Aaron Jones, which I mean a lot of 1155 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: people were connecting those dots. I thought that would happen. 1156 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: But they have a lot of draft picks, and I 1157 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: think they have I really do think Chris Career Um 1158 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that maybe says we're gonna 1159 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: get our running back in the draft, and there's there 1160 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 1: are some good backs in there. Um, we kind of 1161 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 1: touched on it quickly, so I won't um dig on 1162 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: on this one, but yes, I think good job. They 1163 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: The Bengal signed Riley Reeve and they had a steak 1164 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: dinner where they sealed the deal. Joe Burrows there, Zach 1165 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Taylor was there. Um. After dinner, Um brief walked away, 1166 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: uh saying I walked away from eating that steak and 1167 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to block block for that guy, 1168 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: all right, could So that's a good start since tonight, 1169 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: let's not settle now. I know Mitchell Schwartz is out there. 1170 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's continuing to play obviously the 1171 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: top of that draft, but I really want to focus 1172 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: on a different team. And they have seen north than 1173 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: it is the Baltimore Ravens, and man, it's it's interesting 1174 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: to me that they are not more active in trying 1175 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: to build up their wide receiver room right now. And 1176 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should have signed Kenny Golladay because 1177 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,919 Speaker 1: that was a lot of money to give to Kenny 1178 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Golladay and you have financial restraints, but you know you 1179 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: didn't go the extra mile to get ju Ju. I 1180 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: imagine you could have if he signed a one year 1181 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: deal worth eight million, and I know maybe they did 1182 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: offer a little bit more, but maybe you have to 1183 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: go another year to add someone there. But the fact 1184 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: that you still have Hollywood Brown at the top of 1185 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: your depth chart, um, it makes me think that this 1186 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: team is not it's gonna struggle with Lamar Jackson to 1187 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: take that next step on offense unless they make a 1188 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: splashy uh move via trade or really focus it on 1189 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: draft upgrading at wide receiver. And this fact whether you 1190 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 1: could put whatever you want into it, but I think 1191 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: it does um hold water because Ozzie Newsom gave way 1192 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: to Erica Costa, who learned under Ozzie Newsom. They've never 1193 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: drafted Pro Bowl wide receiver in the history of that organization. 1194 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,959 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna leaning on that, there's some history 1195 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: that tells you they're not. Maybe they have a little 1196 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 1: bit of a blind spot at wide receiver. So if 1197 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna pass on free agency, you better hit on 1198 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: somebody in the draft unless I'm crazy, Greg, And I 1199 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,439 Speaker 1: know you love Lamar Jackson, Uh that this is fine 1200 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the way it is, and they're a running team anyway, 1201 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and you don't need to build up around I'm not 1202 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: shocked because that's how the Ravens have approached things over 1203 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the years. And we knew they were coming into this 1204 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: offseason in a tough spot. You know, they also lost 1205 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: their top two pass rushers, uh, and they've made some moves. 1206 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler they picked up for their offensive line. There 1207 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: is one name out there who's the top My receiver rankings. 1208 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Really the top two there left that I think would 1209 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: be good for them, which is t Y Hilton is 1210 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: number one left. I think that would be a nice signing. 1211 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he's done um, but the culture trying 1212 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: to bring him back. And then Antonio Brown, who they 1213 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: were rumored to be um talking with at some point 1214 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: last year, is also available. I don't know if that's 1215 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: the right fit right. I don't know that the top 1216 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: two receivers at least available on my on my board, 1217 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: I could imagine Antonio Brown being UM, very annoyed and 1218 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 1: question don't want no. I I just wonder if you're 1219 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: talking to your camp, your agents, your managers, and you 1220 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: have equal deals from Team A and Team B, and 1221 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: you know the Ravens are a tough place if you're 1222 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. To think I'm gonna go and become 1223 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow up here, this is a great fit. 1224 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: It's like you maybe you will, but you have no idea. 1225 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: And like the Greg Roman offense feels like the last 1226 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 1: offense you want to run into based on their star 1227 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're saying, you know multiple times this year 1228 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: this place is a trash have been perfect, so our 1229 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: our tailoring about it that Juju got a nine million 1230 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: dollar offer from the Ravens, a one million dollar more 1231 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: but more incentives, like some incentives too, but it was 1232 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: still a one year offer. Why why not make a 1233 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: little more, give a little more guaranteed. I think Juju 1234 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,439 Speaker 1: would have fit perfect in Baltimore. That's where Lamar throws best, 1235 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 1: is over the middle. T Y makes sense. Sammy Watkins 1236 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: also out there is an option. So I don't know, 1237 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: but make a move, make a move, give you give 1238 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you that that guy a chance to lift his game 1239 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: as a passer. If that's the jury is out on 1240 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: him in that sense, well you gotta build up around him. 1241 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, anybody else have something? I think 1242 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I just want Denver to to all that quarterback spot 1243 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: with Locke because I don't want to as someone who 1244 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: really likes this roster. I like their defense. I like 1245 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: the weapons around Lock a lot. I'm not feeling good 1246 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: right now that right now Noah fant In Courtland Sutton 1247 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: and Jerry Judy and Tim Patrick and Handler and even 1248 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon like they're all relying right now on Drew Lock. 1249 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: I want another. I want an option be I don't. 1250 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: I think all the the good options are gone, so 1251 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: it might be too late unless you drive it might be. 1252 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the cults um left tackle, Anthony 1253 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: Constanzo get Teddy. Denver, I just thought of that one, Denver. 1254 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: You love Teddy. I love Teddy two and a half 1255 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: times more than any other person you. How about how 1256 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: about your boy? How about your boy Matt Rule? How 1257 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: about your boy Matt Rule? You love sending see poems 1258 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: about who gave him fifty million dollars guaranteed when no 1259 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: one else was, who told us on the show how 1260 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: much he loves it and, by the way, helped him 1261 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: produce at a really high level for about ten weeks 1262 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: before the wheel. Well, Greg, that was you, Barry Dan 1263 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: and I in front of Matt Rule to showcase yourself 1264 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 1: as a Teddy fanboy, which I didn't appreciate. But secondly, 1265 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: that entire organization is said, we're going to go get 1266 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: a real quarterback. So you're right, by the way, I 1267 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: get it, though you I think you were, You were right, 1268 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: But I also think Teddy is way better than Drew 1269 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: lock Is. My point is Teddy is that Alex Smith, 1270 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, or even a little lower like twenty three 1271 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: or fourth best starter in the league. And to me, 1272 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: that might be a huge upgrade from Lock and might 1273 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: be a pretty big difference. And I wouldn't hate that. 1274 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: That would be a good spot for Teddy. That's all 1275 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, I mean, I'm just here's the 1276 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: thing with Teddy Gregg at this point where we are now, 1277 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: where it's now two thousand twenty one. Last year really 1278 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: felt like the chance for him to establish himself as 1279 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: a guy that you could really say that's myke QB one. 1280 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: He is. He is not the greatest quarterback ever, but 1281 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: you know he's in that conversation of like a you know, 1282 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. I don't I don't think he 1283 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: had his chance and it just didn't happen. Is that 1284 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: a solution? You're right, But I think I get it. 1285 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: But what if that's not what they're looking for. They're 1286 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 1: looking for a guy to pair with Locke. That is 1287 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: kind of a making case for that. I think what 1288 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I just said with that realizing was well, no one 1289 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: else is available. He's on the wrong side of the 1290 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Dolton scale, Teddy. So if you don't why go you know, 1291 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: whether it's I think Locke is definitely on the wrong 1292 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: side of the Dalton scale. Uh, maybe they should have 1293 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: went a different direction, because that is a roster that 1294 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 1: can win. I think. I think if you watched it 1295 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 1: all of Teddy's snaps last year, we go First of all, 1296 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: it did go south. But I think he was better 1297 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: than people think, if not for one really big problem, 1298 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 1: which is he played his worst in the in the 1299 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: late portions of fourth quarters of games. And that really sad, 1300 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: and that's understandable. Like when everyone switched to the Panthers 1301 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: game with five minutes left, that was when Teddy was 1302 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: at his worst. But that's not what you want out 1303 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: of your quarterback. Every Panthers game seemed to come down 1304 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: to like a sixty one yard field goal attempt. I 1305 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you're trying to I don't know if 1306 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to help Teddy Bridgewaters' last five minutes, but 1307 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 1: you're greg you're going to have to at some point, 1308 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 1: like verbally accept that he's not quite as shiny as 1309 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: you pitch him to us. As I mean, if if 1310 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 1: he's going to be on his fourth team in four years, um, 1311 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: if he's on his fifth team five in five years 1312 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: a year from now, will you still be you know, 1313 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: song and dance scenario here with Teddy Bridgewater? Can we 1314 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: chill just a little bit on the PR machine. I 1315 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: don't know what your relationship is with the Bridgewater family, 1316 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: but very close, you know, has he reached out to you? 1317 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: He's a likable guy. No one's questioning that. We like 1318 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: to watch. It's sad you kind of replaced Geno Smith 1319 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: with Teddy, like as the guy who up that. It's 1320 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: hard to fathom for others. Um, we all have those 1321 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: players though, that's true. All right, good stuff, good stuff. 1322 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with another show, another big 1323 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: week of action for the Around the NFL podcast. There 1324 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: is no off season, so we have a show on 1325 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Thursday and then the network show returns on Friday, and 1326 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: please check that out. Any any closing thoughts, haikup, perhaps tomorrow. 1327 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about Teddy. I'm still things that could 1328 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: respond about Teddy. It's like if if Sam Donald, how 1329 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: do you always do that? You always Donald? I'm not 1330 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: saying Donald any could I just you know, I'm just 1331 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 1: saying if he had done one season as good as 1332 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: as Teddy's even last season, or his first or second season. 1333 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 1: It's like we would we would be talking about huntil 1334 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the cows coming. I don't know, man, That's like when 1335 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 1: you you start to get upset, you just bring up 1336 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,680 Speaker 1: Sam Donald and and say, but if he was Sam Donald, 1337 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: it's probably right. But um okay, that's it. Dan has 1338 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: a signing off for Quiet Storm. The old Boss. Ricky 1339 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Holly is very silent assassin behind the virtual of Last Today. 1340 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: Possibly asleep, maybe maybe coherent, maybe awake, we don't know. 1341 01:09:17,600 --> 01:10:01,839 Speaker 1: But anyway, until Thursday, he's the call six