Speaker 1: Hello, it's Chris letting you know. I have some stand
Speaker 1: up dates coming up this week. Actually Wednesday, February eighth,
Speaker 1: I will be.
Speaker 2: At Suba's in Chicago.
Speaker 1: February tenth through twelfth, I'll be in Saint Louis at
Speaker 1: Helium Comedy Club. And then February fourteenth, that's Valentine's Day,
Speaker 1: I'll be at Helium in Indianapolis. Go to Chris Fairbanks
Speaker 1: dot com to find the links for tickets.
Speaker 2: Thank you and you're welcome.
Speaker 3: Are leaving? I you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 3: we want to be there.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter how much baggage you clayankive us time and
Speaker 4: a urman on engaye.
Speaker 3: We want to send you off in style. We want
Speaker 3: to welcome you back home.
Speaker 4: Tell us all about it?
Speaker 3: We scared? Or was it fine?
Speaker 5: Malcoorn?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need with Karen and Chris welcome to Do
Speaker 2: you need a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 3: And this is Karen Kilgarra.
Speaker 2: Hello, my friend Karen.
Speaker 3: Hello Chris, how are you.
Speaker 2: Let us speak in song like tones.
Speaker 3: It's not irritating.
Speaker 2: It will ever be irritating. Now.
Speaker 3: Our fans love it.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 1: They as much as they love us chewing into the microphone.
Speaker 2: They love singing songy dialogue.
Speaker 4: One of the worst mistakes we ever made on this
Speaker 4: podcast was when I ate a rice crispy tree.
Speaker 3: From Starbucks into my love in the car.
Speaker 2: Yes it was. People do not like SMR as much
Speaker 2: as they think they do.
Speaker 3: No, we lost fifties of listeners.
Speaker 1: Yes, but we did get all that foldy work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm. I have a new microphone in case I
Speaker 1: sound amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do, and you look amazing from your hands
Speaker 4: are way up by your ears.
Speaker 2: Give me just gesticulating wildly. I don't.
Speaker 4: We all have to use our zoom box with our
Speaker 4: like as much as possible with our hands. Today we
Speaker 4: are in honor of Chris's new mic stanes.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's gonna be just riddled with jazz like hands
Speaker 6: and lots of measurements that are about two feet wide.
Speaker 6: We can do anything, so many visual things that you
Speaker 6: can't appreciate on an audio podcast.
Speaker 4: You almost actually irritate you on an audio podcast.
Speaker 3: Yes, but yes, yeah, especially we'll do it.
Speaker 1: We address them so more singing and gesticulating to come,
Speaker 1: and you will love it.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. You and I met.
Speaker 1: Our guest today at the same time when we were
Speaker 1: doing the more fun of the Zoom shows.
Speaker 2: I've ever done, the most fun.
Speaker 4: I think it's one of two Zoom shows I did,
Speaker 4: and then I said that's enough for me.
Speaker 1: We liked our guests today so much that we had
Speaker 1: to call each other and say, hey, I really liked
Speaker 1: that person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Didn't you didn't I see you liking him on that
Speaker 4: streaming comedy attempt that we made in early quarantine.
Speaker 3: I think that's what I asked you.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's exactly how you worded it.
Speaker 4: We're both huge fans. Yes, this is a person who
Speaker 4: what was it Quiplash?
Speaker 2: It was quick the game. I don't remember the rules.
Speaker 1: I remember being frustrated and kicking myself off by not
Speaker 1: having glasses on and pushing the wrong button, and then
Speaker 1: I'd punish myself by doing chin ups, which I am
Speaker 1: doing again. I was I received an Apple Watch for Christmas,
Speaker 1: and it tells me when I need to get up
Speaker 1: and stop sitting, which would be annoying to most people,
Speaker 1: but I use it as an opportunity to do frustrating
Speaker 1: chin ups.
Speaker 2: So I've been doing more of that and.
Speaker 3: Soon great, good hopefully, and we see it today.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my physique, Yeah, I'll show it.
Speaker 3: We're mid intro right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I tend to do that, don't I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you basically stop and we're introing. Think of three
Speaker 3: other topics.
Speaker 1: Just mention a watch. We were smoothly getting into Jason.
Speaker 3: We were on the brink. Actually, some would say, and.
Speaker 1: Now I've done the worst thing ever where I said
Speaker 1: his first name.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I should take it from me, Karen.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, we are thrilled to tell you he
Speaker 4: plays clubs and colleges all over a lot of colleges.
Speaker 3: Please welcome Jaye Jerden.
Speaker 7: Hey, what's up y'all? Hey, yay, very happy to be here.
Speaker 7: Tons of colleges. The last college gig I did was
Speaker 7: at a place where I went to grad school, and
Speaker 7: that was interesting for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, they do.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that they book like comics. Was it
Speaker 4: a nooner at a grad school?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: So I went to the University of Alabama for grad school.
Speaker 7: And that was the last college gig I did, and
Speaker 7: I did it in this summer of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 7: late summer of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: And how long had it been since you were in
Speaker 1: that school? Just a matter of years, right.
Speaker 7: Oh, I left there in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: So where they're familiars, that'd be so fun to see.
Speaker 7: Some familiar some familiar faces. It was also it's like
Speaker 7: it was part of their welcome week for like the
Speaker 7: freshman class for that year. So it was like it
Speaker 7: was well attended and they were smart and fun and
Speaker 7: weird and masked and probably vaccinated.
Speaker 3: It was just.
Speaker 7: Everything was so everything was so good. I was very
Speaker 7: happy I got to do it. But because you tell
Speaker 7: people you're going to do a college show in Alabama
Speaker 7: during the pandemic and they go, well, Jay, it was
Speaker 7: nice knowing you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, see you later.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's usually did you get to do a.
Speaker 4: Lot of local jokes that like really played in the
Speaker 4: room because you knew you.
Speaker 7: Don't want to talk about the restaurants on like the
Speaker 7: strip for like what's going on in the square. You
Speaker 7: want to be like, oh, yeah, I can't wait to
Speaker 7: see y'all. I can't wait to see y'all. I don't
Speaker 7: know like mos after this, but if you want to
Speaker 7: like drop a if you want to like drop a reference,
Speaker 7: they'll get it. It's also it's very funny because college
Speaker 7: kids are uniquely and like very aware of everything now
Speaker 7: in a way that like I guess started when I
Speaker 7: was in college, but has only like progressed and gotten
Speaker 7: even faster. Like they're aware of everything. They set the
Speaker 7: trends for everything, they dictate everything.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the older I get the more and more
Speaker 1: I'm impressed by young people to where I think it's
Speaker 1: ridiculous that people used to complain about young people.
Speaker 7: It's like, oh, and I get rid of these old
Speaker 7: like old people, and this is the crazy old people
Speaker 7: like have to ask them for things like there's no
Speaker 7: way you can exist without young people. I say, this
Speaker 7: is a person who's thirty three. I'm on the other
Speaker 7: side of it. There's a person at my job. I
Speaker 7: was like this, I'm scared if I post this it's
Speaker 7: and it look weird. It's stretched out. Do you know
Speaker 7: how to make it not stretched out? I had to
Speaker 7: go to like the guy who was part of the
Speaker 7: digital content strategy whatever that job that exists not only
Speaker 7: because of young people. I was like, it looks like
Speaker 7: it's going to be stretched out? Is it when I
Speaker 7: post it? Will it be stretched out? I'm worried?
Speaker 3: And was he nice about it?
Speaker 7: Or was it was so kind about it? He was like, Okay,
Speaker 7: i'll send you another file and I'll send it to
Speaker 7: you these ways too. And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 7: was a work Yeah, I had that.
Speaker 3: Does that happened to me one time I started a job.
Speaker 4: This is when this was right to the end where
Speaker 4: I had to stop caring because I already don't like
Speaker 4: computers and didn't realize they were going to be like
Speaker 4: seventy fives.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you something. They don't like you. They don't
Speaker 7: like you a mutual computer. No, we are all going
Speaker 7: to be the Thomas Jefferson of computers, all of us,
Speaker 7: every human. We've taken advantage of these things. They are slaves,
Speaker 7: but we also like love them like it's it's gonna
Speaker 7: be bad. The AI recognition will spare none of us.
Speaker 3: It's so true.
Speaker 4: Well, I had the writer's assistant came in and saw
Speaker 4: the contact sheet that had been put together, and he
Speaker 4: came in and shut the door and went y'ah email address,
Speaker 4: no girl, no, And I was like what why really,
Speaker 4: who cares? And he's like, we have to sign you
Speaker 4: up for Gmail right now, Like he was mortified for me.
Speaker 4: And that was like the I think the last that
Speaker 4: was the last string and strand I was holding on to.
Speaker 4: And then I just said I can't I can't care
Speaker 4: because I must be doing this all day in every way,
Speaker 4: had you no idea if.
Speaker 7: It would have been hot mail, you wouldn't even got
Speaker 7: the job. They would have threw it in the garth.
Speaker 4: For real, like who is this hermit that's been living
Speaker 4: in a cave and still using Yahoo? Email? Was just
Speaker 4: so easy in twenty two thousand and three or whenever
Speaker 4: I got it. It was just like they MA made
Speaker 4: it easy for me.
Speaker 7: Is how I met my Nigerian prince fiance and we've
Speaker 7: been very happy.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 7: I love that man.
Speaker 4: I love giving him tens of thousands of dollars a month.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing is because my sister was born in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine. She just had her name sixty nine
Speaker 1: at Gmail and I had to tell her, like a
Speaker 1: lot of people and I know why you put that,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people are going to think, you know,
Speaker 1: six And it's almost as if my sister wasn't familiar
Speaker 1: with it as a sexual position, but.
Speaker 2: She sense changed it very very embarrassed.
Speaker 7: Chrisy, I love that you said, and lit Sis, I
Speaker 7: know why you put it. I know why you put it.
Speaker 7: I know why you put it. I know why. Let
Speaker 7: me stress, I know why. Yeah, it's not for the
Speaker 7: reason I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, putting the nineteen the nineteen in there before
Speaker 1: it would be such a different message for everyone.
Speaker 7: That's how sexual our society is. We can ruin numbers.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said anything if she wasn't a teacher
Speaker 1: of young people.
Speaker 2: You know, their imaginations.
Speaker 1: They get all the information they know, you know, they've
Speaker 1: seen all the porn that the kind.
Speaker 2: Of porn Bury in the woods.
Speaker 1: They have it presented to them, and they they have
Speaker 1: all the information, good and bad.
Speaker 7: So they're all making it now.
Speaker 2: You just can't.
Speaker 7: They're just not viewing the porn judgment free zone. They're
Speaker 7: just not viewing.
Speaker 2: They're ignoring.
Speaker 1: They know it's out there, they're ignoring it. But they're
Speaker 1: a sixty nine passive kid.
Speaker 2: These days.
Speaker 7: They're critiquing the porn. They're writing reviews, they're.
Speaker 2: Directing, they're directing.
Speaker 7: Point they're producing their crowd sourcing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're raising the money for very adult films.
Speaker 2: They're just kids.
Speaker 4: They've set up Yelp pages for each individual porn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're discussing it.
Speaker 7: They talk about, oh, well that's not realistic, that's not
Speaker 7: nearly realistic enough.
Speaker 4: He doesn't love her. That's my criticism of every porn. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I think he's using her. I think he's
Speaker 4: just using her emotion.
Speaker 7: I think all seven of those guys might be using her.
Speaker 4: The one keeps making eye contact, that's nice, but the
Speaker 4: other one, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird during it.
Speaker 1: And I know there's a better phrase than gangbang, but
Speaker 1: it's always weird when you see that one of them
Speaker 1: is in love and he's just kind of in the background.
Speaker 1: He's not really participating. Maybe he's a sound guy that
Speaker 1: actually comes into comes into frame accidentally.
Speaker 7: But that's maybe. But maybe he represents the viewer. Right,
Speaker 7: there's a cinematography there, Chris, Somewhat, a narrative is established.
Speaker 2: You got to relate to one other character.
Speaker 3: Still, I want to see the porn. That's the point
Speaker 3: of view.
Speaker 4: Of every guy that's standing in that circle kind of
Speaker 4: Rasamon style. What was it like for you? Where did
Speaker 4: you come from this morning? What are you going to
Speaker 4: do after this?
Speaker 3: Do you guys just to all love?
Speaker 7: Just a bunch to slice the life. And it's where
Speaker 7: all these characters had it. Oh my gosh, it's like, okay,
Speaker 7: it's the modern family Pilot. This is what you want.
Speaker 7: They all were going to the orgy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Then they all do a take to
Speaker 3: the camera. Can you believe this?
Speaker 2: Cake? HBO?
Speaker 7: Max will greenleave back? That will get green lit. It's coming.
Speaker 4: We have to This is a poor man's copyright where
Speaker 4: we have to say we did this on purpose.
Speaker 3: This was our collaborative idea. We get the best.
Speaker 1: Time for us to come up with good ideas or
Speaker 1: invent things because it's documented and it's better than a
Speaker 1: patent clerk, which you can't even find anymore, yes, trying
Speaker 1: to find a patent clerk or a notary public.
Speaker 7: Just someone with a very specific stamp. That's what you need,
Speaker 7: just ink and rubber on something.
Speaker 3: On a very like made to order. It took eight
Speaker 3: weeks to get it right stamp.
Speaker 7: You see those stamp, those ink wells were so big.
Speaker 7: There was a pad with the sponge. It was like
Speaker 7: red or blue. They had the words the lettering in
Speaker 7: reverse because that's important for some reason on their stamp,
Speaker 7: and they would put it in, but then they would
Speaker 7: do that little wiggle and make sure it gets all
Speaker 7: in there. They take your document and just hold on
Speaker 7: to it, press down for dear life. And these people
Speaker 7: they played no games, these stampers. Yeah, any person who
Speaker 7: was part of a bureaucratic thing like that.
Speaker 2: You're right, No one need think.
Speaker 1: It's a very serious moment when they're stamping anything.
Speaker 4: Anyone more so when the stamp goes down and say
Speaker 4: it's red. But then they take a blue ink pen
Speaker 4: and right in the date onto the stamp where the
Speaker 4: blank line is yes, like that's official. You have now
Speaker 4: bought that house, you have now married that person.
Speaker 7: If that person is doing all that, then they also
Speaker 7: have like the finger wedding station for patents. They have
Speaker 7: like a they could spit is ineffective, They're going through
Speaker 7: too many paper. The volume alone would ray their mouth out. No, no, no,
Speaker 7: they have the finger wedding station.
Speaker 3: I just to go over there.
Speaker 1: I want to elaborate on finger wedding station because I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. It made me think of
Speaker 1: when you're at a wedding and a bunch of people
Speaker 1: put their thumbprint on a tree to let people know
Speaker 1: that they were at the wedding.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? There? Is that? Not what you're talking about?
Speaker 7: Never been on that kind on a tree?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's a great idea, and you can do it
Speaker 1: for a party or something. It's better than signing a
Speaker 1: guest list. There's a drawing of a leafless tree, just
Speaker 1: dry branches and then the leaves.
Speaker 2: This is fun. The leaves are everyone's fingerprint.
Speaker 3: What are you thinking of kindergarten?
Speaker 1: No, I'm thinking of the first time I was arrested. No,
Speaker 1: I've never been. You know, I stay within the law.
Speaker 4: I have a friend who just became a notary public
Speaker 4: and the money's great.
Speaker 2: You're kidding.
Speaker 3: Really, it's a really good job to have.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right. It's also one of those words that
Speaker 7: you have to say very intentionally and explicitly. You are
Speaker 7: a notary public, right ye? Because together notary public? What
Speaker 7: it's like a what republic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: What wonder?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: A lot of people let it just fly off the
Speaker 1: tongue and they say, note the Republic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are we telling the Republic?
Speaker 1: What do I put on this note? I'm very confused.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have this job or this stamp.
Speaker 4: I just like the idea that people who were into
Speaker 4: like stamps of hearts and kittens in the eighties or
Speaker 4: whenever they were into it when they were young. This
Speaker 4: is if they were truly passionate. If you had like
Speaker 4: a box of stamps or that's how you expressed yourself,
Speaker 4: you could actually go on to make bank with what
Speaker 4: you love stamping? Jay, what's going on in New York?
Speaker 4: Anything to report these things?
Speaker 7: It's so the past three days it is it's die
Speaker 7: of exposure cold. It was it's forty seven degrees right now,
Speaker 7: and I went outside and I knew I had been
Speaker 7: abused because I was like, this is great, forty yes seven,
Speaker 7: What hold on, mama nature, I'm about to act up
Speaker 7: forty seven girl. I might not play socks on just
Speaker 7: ound in my house, shoes to walk my dog. But no,
Speaker 7: it was it was bleak for it's this past weekend.
Speaker 7: It was one of those like nine degrees feels like
Speaker 7: negative to in New York. Everyone has gone from like
Speaker 7: cute coats to very functional coats to you know what,
Speaker 7: both of these can be on at the same time.
Speaker 7: I went to a brunch on Saturday and they had
Speaker 7: like an inside outside situation where there's a roof that's
Speaker 7: covered and heated, and we were gonna sit there. And
Speaker 7: one of the people in this group text said, oh,
Speaker 7: it's it's we have outside seating, and I said outside,
Speaker 7: question mark, I will turn around because I thought they
Speaker 7: meant like outside, and I was like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 7: I will never. So it's been cold and now it's
Speaker 7: halfway decent and it'll get cold again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was like one degree in Montana when I was
Speaker 1: home for the holidays, and then it did. It jumped
Speaker 1: up immediately to forty six or something, you know, because
Speaker 1: of al Gore. And then everyone, Yeah, they're all just
Speaker 1: wearing shorts outside. Everyone dressed like it was summer. They're
Speaker 1: walking around with surfboards. But you can tell, you can
Speaker 1: tell secretly there.
Speaker 7: The zinc oxide on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some zinca on your nose.
Speaker 4: I went when I lived very briefly in New York
Speaker 4: for like a year, I think it was twenty ten,
Speaker 4: and so I'm from California, life long and never like
Speaker 4: we would go to snow after it had snowed in
Speaker 4: Tahoe and you'd be like, I can't believe it. But
Speaker 4: it was not really serious winter. And there was one
Speaker 4: day it took the subway to work and when I
Speaker 4: get out of the subway, it was ten degrees and
Speaker 4: I could not stop laughing because it felt like I
Speaker 4: was It felt like I'd been submerged in listing and
Speaker 4: I was just breathing, like it just didn't make sense.
Speaker 4: I'd never experienced it. It was so insane, which I loved.
Speaker 4: It was really fun and exciting.
Speaker 7: Hear someone saw you laughing, Yeah, the cold.
Speaker 2: They don't care.
Speaker 1: It's something I can tell you Jay about Karen a bit.
Speaker 1: If there's any trauma or everything horrible is about to happen,
Speaker 1: maybe a mushroom cloud in the distance.
Speaker 2: Karen reacts by laughing maniacally.
Speaker 7: I can't help it, Like you planned it, like you
Speaker 7: press the button.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it appearance that way.
Speaker 4: Well, sometimes it's like that, and sometimes it's like there
Speaker 4: was a time where my friends and I were in
Speaker 4: a car and my friend was driving way too fast
Speaker 4: on like the five South, and it was like nighttime
Speaker 4: and he was truly going like over ninety, but it
Speaker 4: was trafficky whatever, and his girlfriend was kind of like
Speaker 4: you have to slow down and all upset, and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden he changed lanes and there was
Speaker 4: a stop truck in front of us, and he had
Speaker 4: to basically get over again without looking, and it was
Speaker 4: this insane like we were about to die and write.
Speaker 3: It before it happened.
Speaker 4: I started laughing, and once we like once we got
Speaker 4: into the lane and you know, the girlfriend start was
Speaker 4: like god, damn it. It was all mad, and then
Speaker 4: we all calmed down. My friend who was driving, is like,
Speaker 4: that was so fucking creepy, Karen.
Speaker 2: I'm like sorry, sorry, I'm.
Speaker 3: It's like I started laughing. I was like, this is it.
Speaker 2: I can't fucking are you a joker?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I understand laughing right afterwards, immediate relief
Speaker 1: just indorphins, but right.
Speaker 7: Before death possible death.
Speaker 2: To laugh maniacally, then that's it.
Speaker 7: I I've definitely sometimes my boyfriend will say look at
Speaker 7: me and tell me why this is like this in
Speaker 7: the house, and I'll just have to because I know
Speaker 7: it's me and I've done it. Like it'll be something
Speaker 7: like the like dog food is not where it's supposed
Speaker 7: to be, and I will just like start laughing, like
Speaker 7: that's how I It's always like Jay, what is this?
Speaker 7: And I go, OK, it's it looks crazy because it
Speaker 7: is And those are definitely someone shoes in the fridge.
Speaker 7: But here's how that happens.
Speaker 3: You're gonna love this story.
Speaker 7: That's when I like uncontrollably laugh.
Speaker 4: Now, are you the kind of person that does stuff
Speaker 4: like that? Like do you get up in your head?
Speaker 4: I sometimes do that where I know I've actually been
Speaker 4: like fighting with someone for twenty minutes in my head
Speaker 4: and then I look around and can't find what I
Speaker 4: was looking for or something.
Speaker 3: Is it one of those?
Speaker 7: I am very I'm usually pretty. I know where everything is,
Speaker 7: I know where things have to be, this is where
Speaker 7: this should be. But I will get caught off guard.
Speaker 7: So every now and then there is a moment where
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, I'm supposed to do that, and then
Speaker 7: I run down two flights of stairs and it's like
Speaker 7: Jay pants, and then I run back up. Like in
Speaker 7: the summer, sometimes you'll be like this is the temperature,
Speaker 7: I'm pants. I've done I've done that in my.
Speaker 3: Building you gotten to the front door, not.
Speaker 7: To the front door, two flights of stairs. I've never
Speaker 7: like gotten all the way down.
Speaker 1: And we're talking. You're just you were wearing boxers, not
Speaker 1: all the way of swinging.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just like or just like whatever I was like
Speaker 7: sleeping in not yeah, I'm not nake?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Sure is this pre COVID or quarantine?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 7: This is like pre COVID Whenever you would like run
Speaker 7: out and do stuff. Now there's a whole ritual. Now
Speaker 7: there's like mask and yeah, I'm aware of like, but
Speaker 7: I've also I also think that like those like little
Speaker 7: moments like me laughing at shit, like I can either
Speaker 7: laugh where I can be like, oh this is terrible,
Speaker 7: you know, and people you can tweet about and be
Speaker 7: like my day was so stressful. Yeah, or you used
Speaker 7: to be like that's kind of crazy, that's kind of funny,
Speaker 7: that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to be well.
Speaker 4: And also I think it would be really great to
Speaker 4: go all the way somewhere and then be like I'm
Speaker 4: wearing pajamas.
Speaker 3: That would be kind of amazing as.
Speaker 4: A story, Like wouldn't that open up a bunch of
Speaker 4: variables for you and the interactions you might be able
Speaker 4: to have with the people that would normally.
Speaker 7: Pre do people in college. A lot of people win
Speaker 7: everywhere in pajamas. It is.
Speaker 1: I was just in I did shows with Reggie Watson Bozeman.
Speaker 1: Were both from Montana, and he made a comment that
Speaker 1: I love this town. You can just walk around and
Speaker 1: see people wearing pajamas when it's thirty degrees it was
Speaker 1: even colder, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, it was funny to me.
Speaker 1: But then the next day I noticed, if so, I
Speaker 1: was taking pictures of people wearing pajamas, just flannel plaid
Speaker 1: with Surrell like snow boots. So many people in pajamas,
Speaker 1: and I guess that means, yeah, they're enrolled in some
Speaker 1: sort of college.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah. Undergrads are notorious for like how can I
Speaker 7: wake up right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Not no no margin for air.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It used to be so fun for me to go
Speaker 1: in between classes. There'd be like three hours and I would,
Speaker 1: even though it was not worth the drive, go up
Speaker 1: snowboard for one or two runs and then come back.
Speaker 1: And I feel like my motivation was to go to
Speaker 1: class in my snow pants, like somehow.
Speaker 2: That was cool. Oh, I was just up being rad.
Speaker 1: Oh but now I'm ready for social statistics.
Speaker 2: It's so funny that is a young person that.
Speaker 7: Hey, oh I'm I'm sorry. I was just doing the
Speaker 7: opposite of.
Speaker 2: Oh what you guys all are comfortable and dry.
Speaker 4: I pulled a one eighty. Can you believe my range? Anyway,
Speaker 4: I'm taking that. Stop talking about I'm taking notes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I get pretty, I get pretty big air, massive
Speaker 7: air actually, but we need to focus on.
Speaker 4: My eyes off, my snow pants, eyes forward. I respect
Speaker 4: that both of you went to college. Jay, you went
Speaker 4: even more.
Speaker 3: You went double college.
Speaker 7: Too too much college, too much college for me, I
Speaker 7: think my mom was a teacher. Academia was like a fun,
Speaker 7: kind of like nurturing place for me to be in.
Speaker 7: I would always find a way to like kind of
Speaker 7: like hustle and make like have like I like worked
Speaker 7: at the business school when I was in an undergrad.
Speaker 7: I worked at the business school. Never took a single
Speaker 7: business school class. So people, parents, prospective students will come
Speaker 7: up to me at the front desk in the business
Speaker 7: school and ask me what courses the teacher and I'm
Speaker 7: just like, oh, this school, it's I don't know, like
Speaker 7: all the statistics, all the rankings, I'd be like, knowing
Speaker 7: it was established, they'd be like, yeah, what about this teacher.
Speaker 7: I'd go, oh, I'd take theater classes. I'm I'm just
Speaker 7: the face. This is all I got.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. I did the same thing.
Speaker 1: I had a girl when I first moved to Austin
Speaker 1: to start doing stand up. My girlfriend was a teacher
Speaker 1: at UT and it was in the radio television building
Speaker 1: and I would go use the computer lab because they
Speaker 1: had brand new photoshop and I was doing a lot
Speaker 1: of illustration stuff.
Speaker 2: But I had.
Speaker 1: A edu a UT edu email, and I was there
Speaker 1: every day and same thing.
Speaker 2: People were do you know where a professor? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in drama right. I don't remember where the
Speaker 1: building is. I was always fielding questions.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why people asking because I was wearing snow pants.
Speaker 2: Maybe in Austin, yeah why not?
Speaker 5: Why not?
Speaker 7: You gotta Chris was giving guided tours.
Speaker 1: And again that's the tower where a lunatic shot folks.
Speaker 1: Any other questions, there's.
Speaker 7: You see that, you see that cow? What kind of horns?
Speaker 7: So long you are? Do you want to give the tour?
Speaker 7: What are we doing?
Speaker 3: Like this guy confrontational?
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna say it's a short horn.
Speaker 7: It's like we always say, it's the same we have
Speaker 7: in Austin. Keep Austin strange.
Speaker 2: Pardon me, I think it's weird you're out of the tour.
Speaker 7: I think it is weird that you would try to
Speaker 7: correct me.
Speaker 2: Do you go too here?
Speaker 3: We actual point about it being weird.
Speaker 2: Are you're you're from Mississippi, right?
Speaker 7: I am from Mississippi originally.
Speaker 1: So I'm from Montana. The thing those dates have in
Speaker 1: common is they were always in a dead heat for
Speaker 1: the lowest income in the nation. And I think that
Speaker 1: what a lot of like people moved to Montana now
Speaker 1: to become fly fishermen or you know, they're always complaining
Speaker 1: about Californians moving in and I experienced that when I
Speaker 1: drove up with my license plates and people were threatening me.
Speaker 2: But I think that's the only reason it's been off
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: But we're, yeah, we're That's all I know about Mississippi,
Speaker 1: and I have to force it into conversation.
Speaker 7: Whoa was sus Well, no, because you're the statistic hides
Speaker 7: a fact that the reason they're time for the income.
Speaker 7: The Mississippi Party said is because Mississippi has like the
Speaker 7: the highest number of black people of any state in
Speaker 7: the continental US, and black people suffer from power already
Speaker 7: at a disproportionately high rate of Mississippi, so it drops
Speaker 7: everything down. And so it's because Montana has more space.
Speaker 1: In Montana, it's a high number of Native American reservations,
Speaker 1: so that yeah, so it's probably not the same thing,
Speaker 1: but it's I think, I.
Speaker 7: Know, I think they're connected. And the other thing about Mississippi,
Speaker 7: Mississippi whenever it is, whenever the topic is brought up.
Speaker 7: I I love the dance of like me shitting on
Speaker 7: it and then me make it like kind of taking
Speaker 7: up for some of the people there, because there are
Speaker 7: so many things to make fun of from like a
Speaker 7: big perspective, and there's something you're like, oh, well, okay,
Speaker 7: well like this kind of sucks because historically these people
Speaker 7: have been like disenfranchised. But also Jesus Christ, you put
Speaker 7: that flag away, my god, yeah, like the the Confederate
Speaker 7: until I got I got a hat with the new
Speaker 7: flag on. But until last year, they were like, we
Speaker 7: gotta do something about this flag. And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 7: you you're a state legislator, you can't. Well they don't
Speaker 7: like you tell what to do. Who's they you make
Speaker 7: the laws?
Speaker 2: People in their pajamas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was hundreds of years.
Speaker 7: It was like the last is the last state. It
Speaker 7: was the last state that still had like very visible
Speaker 7: Confederate iconography on their flag, like Alabama tries to hide it.
Speaker 7: Florida tries to hide it, like they took the crossing
Speaker 7: pattern and just changed the color scheme and took out
Speaker 7: the stars, which is like that's part of the American experience.
Speaker 7: If you see it, then you can see. But Mississippi
Speaker 7: was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna imagine leaving your Christmas
Speaker 7: tree up for a couple of hundred for like one
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty years. Oh, I know, it was Why
Speaker 7: why didn't you tell us?
Speaker 3: We didn't realized.
Speaker 4: Did you ever see that video of the woman who
Speaker 4: comes out front step and the person it's like a
Speaker 4: handyman that pulls into her driveway and has a Confederate
Speaker 4: flag the size of the truck.
Speaker 7: The size of the truck, yeah, like waving behind and.
Speaker 4: She just she does this thing where she just is
Speaker 4: like absolutely not and then the husband right has to
Speaker 4: come out and we're sorry, we're not going to be
Speaker 4: using your services, like what in the living fuck I
Speaker 4: want to.
Speaker 7: Know, does that person hate working?
Speaker 4: Does that person hate every experience they have outside of
Speaker 4: their house?
Speaker 7: As a conspiracy theorist? What if? What if they're like
Speaker 7: they keep turning down these gigs? Oh no, you know
Speaker 7: It's like there is the Curb episode with the hat
Speaker 7: that came out recently where it's like almost like a
Speaker 7: de buff like you go, oh, well, yeah, I sure
Speaker 7: would hate it if someone took offense to this flag,
Speaker 7: because then I wouldn't get the day off. I was like,
Speaker 7: are you using racism to get out of doing this work? No?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7: I have so many people I can't stand of the list,
Speaker 7: the list of people I don't think should be Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I see that flag, I don't ever accuse
Speaker 1: that person of being a workaholic, you know.
Speaker 4: Not Sonan, not Sonan. It's awesome, but also, yeah, what
Speaker 4: the fuck do you think people are going to do?
Speaker 4: Even like, there's so many people that would not agree
Speaker 4: with that, where you're just like, it's not even we
Speaker 4: can't go it's a bumper sticker, And I don't like
Speaker 4: that vibe. It is a flag flying like it would
Speaker 4: be on the top of a fucking high rise.
Speaker 3: But it's just on your ram truck.
Speaker 7: And it's like, then people drive. But if that black
Speaker 7: family less that happened, then people drive. If that black
Speaker 7: woman is like, what's wrong with you, he's like, oh,
Speaker 7: it's actually my dad's truck. I'm just I'm I'm so sorry,
Speaker 7: and then she goes, okay, well just do the job.
Speaker 7: Then to me, the funny thing is her friends would
Speaker 7: go court, what's going just trucking her job? When she goes, no,
Speaker 7: it's his dad's truck. And then someone else comes by
Speaker 7: and goes, ma'am are you being are you okay? No, no,
Speaker 7: it's his dad's truck. There's just a lot that day.
Speaker 5: Would have to house.
Speaker 3: You would just start laughing.
Speaker 7: Okay, oh yeah. If I lived in that house, I
Speaker 7: would be like, I think we went to Old miss together.
Speaker 2: No, so do you still have family? Do you go back?
Speaker 7: I do? I was in Mississippi twice in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7: I went in July after I had received all of
Speaker 7: my shots, which is a funny. We used to say
Speaker 7: that about other countries, look at US America. And then
Speaker 7: I went again for a wedding in December, and that
Speaker 7: was the last time I went, So I do have
Speaker 7: some friends who live there in my family. My mom
Speaker 7: still was there, my brother and my niece, and my
Speaker 7: nephew and my brother's wife still live in my grandmother,
Speaker 7: So I have like enough family there that usually go
Speaker 7: every year.
Speaker 2: At December wedding.
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, it must have been indoor. I'm used to
Speaker 1: everyone just getting married off in the woods.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 7: It was in like a wedding space that was kind
Speaker 7: of a refurbished, very very southern barn but nice. And
Speaker 7: then yeah, but it was still nice weather in Mississippi
Speaker 7: and December it was in the fifties.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, What is there something you wish people knew
Speaker 4: about Mississippi of how great it is or what you
Speaker 4: like about it? Oh, like that people might not know
Speaker 4: if they don't go there and see it themselves.
Speaker 7: Well, the easy thing to point to is without Mississippi.
Speaker 7: For America, without Mississippi, you probably most certainly don't get
Speaker 7: Delta Blues. Without Delta Blues, you don't get Chicago Blues.
Speaker 7: Without the Blues. In general, you don't get rock and roll.
Speaker 7: So a lot of America's cultural significance and legacy is
Speaker 7: rooted in Mississippi. That's like a big that's like a
Speaker 7: big idea that I wish more people kind of go, oh,
Speaker 7: that's crazy, and then you don't have the voice of
Speaker 7: God without Mississippi I e. Morgan Freeman. Those are like fun, fun,
Speaker 7: silly things that people just don't know about. You don't
Speaker 7: get Oprah Oprah, you don't if you don't have Mississippy.
Speaker 7: Don't get Oprah. People go to Chicago, But Chicago is
Speaker 7: where she went afterwards.
Speaker 3: And Mississippi made her.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think there. I think that more people
Speaker 7: should realize that the South is full of people, and
Speaker 7: people can be flawed, but places like don't hate on places,
Speaker 7: you know, and it's beautiful and it's green and it's lush,
Speaker 7: and it's like undeveloped in spots and it's really kind
Speaker 7: of like Memphis little sister in spots. If you want
Speaker 7: to have a fun, like downtown experience, I think it's
Speaker 7: great and it can I mean just like every place,
Speaker 7: and like all the places that are getting more credit
Speaker 7: and not like Texas and Florida should be made fun of,
Speaker 7: and they are, but Texas and Florida should be made
Speaker 7: fun of just as much. And Mississippi has a rich
Speaker 7: cultural heritage. That's all I would say.
Speaker 2: Do you ever go back and do stand up there?
Speaker 2: Or is there?
Speaker 7: Oh? Oh god, no, no, why would I do that?
Speaker 7: I didn't stand up? Are you kidding me about it?
Speaker 7: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't like what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You like it?
Speaker 7: Wait, we're off right, I'm gonna hit me, I have.
Speaker 7: I think I'm gonna end up doing stand up there
Speaker 7: next year for the University of Mississippi. I think I'm
Speaker 7: gonna end up doing stand up for another another college,
Speaker 7: I think next year. And I've done it in the past,
Speaker 7: And there is something very fun about airing your grievances
Speaker 7: about other people's take on your state while in that state. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so that, I mean, there is a very very specific
Speaker 7: amount of home cooking you can play with. But they're
Speaker 7: just I think they only have two like comedy clubs,
Speaker 7: like rotating headliners in the state. So also, the comedy
Speaker 7: city in Mississippi is so tiny and so new, like
Speaker 7: new new, new, new new, like the there's one room
Speaker 7: in Jackson that's like a spinoff over room that was
Speaker 7: already in Memphis of a club that was already in Memphis.
Speaker 7: So like it takes like that. And the place in
Speaker 7: the south of the state. I want to say that
Speaker 7: Jamie Arrington runs It's there because of his connection with
Speaker 7: New Orleans and so like it blew up a little
Speaker 7: bit because Hannibal Burris would come whenever he was going
Speaker 7: to go through New Orleans, he would go through Hattisburg
Speaker 7: and do that room. But yeah, it takes like I mean,
Speaker 7: it would have to build, like really build a comedy scene.
Speaker 3: Is that where you started?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 7: No, I started. I started comedy. What's the easiest way
Speaker 7: to answer this question for people because you don't want
Speaker 7: to Yeah, no, I I really want to say I
Speaker 7: started in New York, but I've done it in Mississippi
Speaker 7: and Alabama before I moved to New York. But New
Speaker 7: York was a place where I got the majority of
Speaker 7: my reps in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there were You did some comedy.
Speaker 7: Clubs, Yes, I did. You would do like an open
Speaker 7: mic night at bars in college towns is the first
Speaker 7: place that you ever get to do stand up which
Speaker 7: it was like as a theater kid, I liked it.
Speaker 7: It was probably so much closer to one man showy
Speaker 7: than like good stand up, But like I liked it.
Speaker 7: People were always it's very easy to be funny when
Speaker 7: the next person is going to have a guitar and
Speaker 7: not be like you know, you know what. And then
Speaker 7: if you're hosting the thing, if you set the thing up,
Speaker 7: you can do whatever. So yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why I really like storytelling shows, because because my
Speaker 1: only goal is to be like, make people laugh, and
Speaker 1: when someone just tells, even if it's an amazing story,
Speaker 1: it's so fun to go up after them and just
Speaker 1: do stand up.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you cheat, you're cheating. Oh we get to
Speaker 7: be fun dads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'm.
Speaker 7: Gonna be done.
Speaker 5: Dad.
Speaker 7: Look at you. Oh man, what are you weighing now? Yeah?
Speaker 7: What are you beating this? Boy? You got me in.
Speaker 2: The people in the Yeah later, I've never changed a diaper.
Speaker 1: I just watched your Comedy Central featuring and you you
Speaker 1: have so many punchlines for minute. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's a goal of your I've always tried to be
Speaker 1: like in a panic, I don't like there being a
Speaker 1: moment of silence, and so I even if it's a
Speaker 1: joke I'm not proud of, or it's something I try
Speaker 1: and hammer out as many as possible. That's I do
Speaker 1: it in like a panic, but you're doing it in
Speaker 1: a very controlled way.
Speaker 7: I like flourishes, you know, because when you're on stage
Speaker 7: doing comedy, you just did the hardest thing possible. Because
Speaker 7: a person before you just told a bunch of people
Speaker 7: who are skeptics because they live in twenty twenty or
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. They say, hey, this
Speaker 7: next person is funny. And sometimes crowds go you keep
Speaker 7: saying that, Yeah, you keep saying that, and sometimes they
Speaker 7: can get one overall us. But most of the time
Speaker 7: I'm sitting here with my arms crossed waiting for them
Speaker 7: to surprise me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And so I think those people have paid money and
Speaker 7: they pay time, so they should you like, you know,
Speaker 7: when the lunch lead would give you like a big scoop,
Speaker 7: that's me. I want to be that. I want to
Speaker 7: be the I want to be your friend that works
Speaker 7: at Chipotle that goes don't say anything. I'm gonna just
Speaker 7: so like I'm gonna pretend to do one and then
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go, oh, and then I'm gonna give you
Speaker 7: two scoops. Don't say you got two scoops. Don't say
Speaker 7: you got two scoops when you go to the counter,
Speaker 7: because then I'm gonna get in trouble. That's what I
Speaker 7: try to do with the amount of comedy I give
Speaker 7: someone because audiences will go, oh yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 7: But he like he kind of just chilled out for
Speaker 7: a little bit during that, Like at one point he
Speaker 7: just was kind of like, I don't really know what
Speaker 7: do y'all even care about? And that can there's a
Speaker 7: level of fame and a level of smoking indoors that
Speaker 7: afford you that luxury where you can break all kinds
Speaker 7: of rules and just say you don't give a fuck
Speaker 7: and mean it. Oh the amount of fucks I give
Speaker 7: so many, so many fucks.
Speaker 3: But I have to And this is a real I have.
Speaker 4: I'm just old and haven't been in the stand up
Speaker 4: circles in a long time, especially.
Speaker 3: You know, the n y LA whatever. But when we
Speaker 3: did that quip last show.
Speaker 4: With you, you were just so impressive out of the gate
Speaker 4: with every answer where I was just doing that thing
Speaker 4: where I'm like I don't know and I'm not I'm
Speaker 4: just like sitting in my house like not feeling anything,
Speaker 4: and then you.
Speaker 3: Whatever years would get revealed.
Speaker 4: It would just be like the most beautiful diamond of
Speaker 4: comedy where I'm like, wow, he's really fucking you just
Speaker 4: killed it and killed it both of both of you
Speaker 4: did that on that show. But Jay as like a
Speaker 4: person that I had never seen you before. I was
Speaker 4: just like, oh shit, here we go, Like it was
Speaker 4: so exciting. I love when young comics are like above
Speaker 4: and beyond funny, and you really are.
Speaker 7: I really I like. I like it as like you're
Speaker 7: like an artisan and like you whittle away at things
Speaker 7: and you go, oh is this fun? Oh where does
Speaker 7: this go? There's like a fun construction the comedy that
Speaker 7: I feel like can be used to really really like
Speaker 7: answer questions or create new questions that you have hypothetical
Speaker 7: and fantastical and sometimes facetious answers to. And then maybe
Speaker 7: those answers like are on the edge of like a
Speaker 7: real answer. But whatever comedy isn't taken seriously and I
Speaker 7: don't mean taken seriously and like this is the I'm
Speaker 7: like a real comedian. I just mean taking seriously and
Speaker 7: in fact there's a care and a courtesy for the audience.
Speaker 7: Then it can lead to people thinking that comedy is
Speaker 7: just you like saying evil shit or saying like you
Speaker 7: are you saying like pointedly and like intentionally contrarian shit.
Speaker 7: And what happens is that people get very turned off
Speaker 7: because you you know, what's more fun than someone getting
Speaker 7: on stage and spewing a little bit of poison? Is
Speaker 7: you seeing an old lady fall down some stairs and
Speaker 7: that shit. That's just let me tell old lady down
Speaker 7: the stairs, baby eating dog food. That's gonna win every time.
Speaker 1: I can't oh, oh, I can't wait to see that
Speaker 1: you give a baby a dog street.
Speaker 7: That baby don't know, That baby doesn't know anything.
Speaker 4: Wait, no, you're when you're talking about the spearing poison
Speaker 4: on stage? Are you talking about my acts specifically?
Speaker 3: Because I do feel like that was.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I thought around about me.
Speaker 4: Are you talking about No, there's this thing.
Speaker 7: Maybe it's because I've seen a new reaction that people
Speaker 7: yup people younger than me, young people like late teens,
Speaker 7: mid twenties, late twenties are like going to shows now
Speaker 7: in New York. Shows have started to skew younger, and
Speaker 7: people are amazed and kind of like bewildered that stand
Speaker 7: up and these people's sensibilities have changed, and these people's
Speaker 7: worlds have to change, and these people's parameters on what's progressive,
Speaker 7: what's regressive, what's transgressive, what's funny, what's kind of like
Speaker 7: not funny anymore, what's creative? All that shit has shifted
Speaker 7: and everyone got funnier. In the early it's like two
Speaker 7: thousand and ten, maybe it was two thousand and eight,
Speaker 7: everyone knew about comedy. Whenever comedy blew up and people
Speaker 7: were like, oh, yeah, that's a callback, And I was like,
Speaker 7: everyone knows what this shit means. Everyone knows the land
Speaker 7: of the land. Everyone knows people's.
Speaker 1: Like, like, right, in the last ten years, if I
Speaker 1: find myself having an open mic or I'm just watching
Speaker 1: a show, I'm impressed.
Speaker 2: Everyone is pretty good. Now, Yeah, they know how to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 7: There was a sensibility that, like, this is a skill
Speaker 7: set that people can work on, and so comics had
Speaker 7: to get really good. Comics have to be very good now,
Speaker 7: and you have to be multidisciplinary, and you have to
Speaker 7: be like sometimes you have to be topical, and then
Speaker 7: you also have to be individualistic and evergreen. So it's
Speaker 7: the world has made me. Having to come up during
Speaker 7: all of this, I think has made me a better
Speaker 7: comic and also my approach to comedy. I really, I
Speaker 7: really really want it to be good and of good.
Speaker 7: And I say that I wanted to be crafted well
Speaker 7: and I want people to leave there feeling like full
Speaker 7: but also like amazed and kind of like trying to
Speaker 7: keep up. I'll I'll like even tell people, I'll go, okay,
Speaker 7: now that I like, y'all, we can go slower, but
Speaker 7: I want to. Sometimes I'll be like, I'll train your ear.
Speaker 7: I'll be like, comedy happens at this speed. You're not
Speaker 7: from Mississippi. You don't have an excuse to go so slow,
Speaker 7: Like come on, yeah, you can, I promise, just listen,
Speaker 7: don't focus on what you're about to drink. So it's fun,
Speaker 7: it's real. It's really fun. And I talk about it
Speaker 7: like I'm one nerd because I am a weird little
Speaker 7: nerd about it. It's fun.
Speaker 3: It's the coolest. It really is.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: And I think I totally agree with you that because
Speaker 4: I kind of saw it as I dipped out of.
Speaker 3: Stand up and did more. I just had a full
Speaker 3: time job.
Speaker 4: When I would watch it was like so clearly this
Speaker 4: next generation of comics were people who had studied, They
Speaker 4: had gone to shows they they made it there. You know,
Speaker 4: they went to colleges where they had like sketchwriting as
Speaker 4: a as a class.
Speaker 3: Or a memberager like they were.
Speaker 4: They were fucking serious, those Emerson people where they're just
Speaker 4: like so and so went here, I'm going to be
Speaker 4: like that, and they were like as opposed to me,
Speaker 4: who truly in the beginning, I always wanted to be
Speaker 4: a comic, but I also always wanted to be drunk.
Speaker 4: So I was like, this is perfect, this is like
Speaker 4: and it was about what I wanted, and I hated
Speaker 4: the audience and it showed. And it was that era
Speaker 4: of like bring your notebook and talk about your feelings
Speaker 4: or whatever, which club comics hated, Alternative comics like got
Speaker 4: real self indulgent about it.
Speaker 7: Then it's patantic alternative comics and regardless of whatever how
Speaker 7: you ever feel about the picture on New Year's Eve,
Speaker 7: like Paton went from aught to mainstream yep. Yeah, And
Speaker 7: he didn't. He shifted slightly because he got older and
Speaker 7: because of a number of life experiences, but the parameters shifted, yes.
Speaker 4: And he basically just I mean, he was always at
Speaker 4: the top of his game. I started with him in
Speaker 4: San Francisco and He has always written those chunk jokes where.
Speaker 3: You're just like, how have you thought about this this much?
Speaker 4: And with another metaphor, yeah, it's brilliant. And we were
Speaker 4: also competitive that there was this kind of like you
Speaker 4: wanted to at least be decent if you were going
Speaker 4: to be on a show with Patten or Blaine or.
Speaker 3: Any of those guys. It was real competitive.
Speaker 4: But then I kind of love seeing that the next
Speaker 4: generation was not only that competitive, but then they also
Speaker 4: were like, and we're also gonna do fucking puns, do
Speaker 4: whatever the fuck we want. Like they took comedy like
Speaker 4: it's it's our thing now. It was great and it
Speaker 4: just keeps happening.
Speaker 7: It's also really really fun because people will be like,
Speaker 7: I just like people are discovered stand up because the
Speaker 7: view shifted to front facing comedy and TikTok videos and
Speaker 7: like without judgment you can say okay, So those were prioritized.
Speaker 7: So then when people see stand up in real life,
Speaker 7: they go, what is it?
Speaker 5: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa?
Speaker 7: What what is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just recently got into TikTok, So it works both ways.
Speaker 7: Right, And I have to I have to like swallow
Speaker 7: my pride and like have silly fun. On TikTok, there's
Speaker 7: like a there's a cross cultural exchange chronologically. Seriously, it's
Speaker 7: one hundred it's one hundred percent like a Thanksgiving that's
Speaker 7: just digital where it's like, will you teach me how
Speaker 7: to use the land? I don't know how to work
Speaker 7: the land. When should I plant this video seed? Well,
Speaker 7: I have a good harvest young people? Yeah, exactly, young people.
Speaker 7: Like well, comments are just as important as like, I mean,
Speaker 7: like what I didn't know? Comments were just as important
Speaker 7: as like if not more? If not more? Well, aren't
Speaker 7: you posting at the same time every day? I just posted?
Speaker 7: I feel like, what are you a rookie? I am?
Speaker 2: You gotta set an alarm?
Speaker 7: There's I mean with stand up, And this is part
Speaker 7: of the reason I do love it is you can
Speaker 7: fold those things also into stand up. Stand up can
Speaker 7: be both like a presentation and a reflection, So like
Speaker 7: that's always fun to me too, Like the fact that
Speaker 7: now you can go from making you can talk. You
Speaker 7: can reference TikTok on stage, and its cultural impact is
Speaker 7: big enough that it's not niche, so like it's refracting
Speaker 7: back into the art form that it did replace in
Speaker 7: some aspects and driving on that medium stand up. So
Speaker 7: it's it's crazy and it's weird, and like, if you
Speaker 7: complain about it, then you just grow more gray hair.
Speaker 7: That's what happens exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why I that's why I started paying attention to
Speaker 1: it because I had these sopranos wings on the side
Speaker 1: of my head that started.
Speaker 2: Great, just walnut wings and look it's gone away.
Speaker 3: Nice, you're part of it now.
Speaker 4: So wait, Jay, we should definitely talk about because it
Speaker 4: was really fun to watch this kind of play out
Speaker 4: on social media.
Speaker 3: At least that was my point of view.
Speaker 4: You got a writing job working on John Stewart's Lewis
Speaker 4: show The Problem.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Congratulations because that packet and that whole remember when that
Speaker 4: happened and people that's all people could talk about on
Speaker 4: social media?
Speaker 3: Yes, who got the invite to do the.
Speaker 4: Packet and whose packets being read and dah dah dah,
Speaker 4: and it was like it played out real time.
Speaker 7: Well, it was insane to me that it was a
Speaker 7: blind submission. That was the first time anyone had ever
Speaker 7: chosen to do that. And Chelsea, the head writers, she
Speaker 7: read through twenty four hundred packets, four hundred of them.
Speaker 7: It even made its way into non comedy Twitter, like
Speaker 7: Splenda made a joke about packets and they posted like
Speaker 7: a splend the packet, which means someone at Splenda's team
Speaker 7: was like, should get like a written drink? Can we
Speaker 7: get a mock up of John Stewart on a splendid packet?
Speaker 7: And then post because kids are talking about packets on
Speaker 7: Twitter for some reason?
Speaker 1: Yes, and whoever was Area, whoever does the Twitter for Splendor,
Speaker 1: you know they wanted to write for John Stewart too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, maybe this will get me some attentions.
Speaker 7: That's a very good point. And I it's my first
Speaker 7: staff writing gig. I had, I had representation. I was
Speaker 7: going through like the traditional routes of like they're looking
Speaker 7: for people right now, or this packet is due. Like
Speaker 7: so i'd done packets before, I had not gotten past
Speaker 7: I think round two for any of them, and so
Speaker 7: this one was kind of like, I'll do this one.
Speaker 7: As a geriatric millennial, I'm very aware of his work.
Speaker 7: He is like the first person that made in high school.
Speaker 7: I would never see middle school because would kill me.
Speaker 7: But middle school too, But in high school, in high school.
Speaker 7: I made to joke to him two weeks ago. I
Speaker 7: was like, oh, yeah, it was Craig Killbour on and
Speaker 7: then it was Trevor Noah and then something was in between.
Speaker 7: But Craig and TV. When I think Daily Show, I
Speaker 7: think Craig Kilbourne and Trevor Noah. You know what, I
Speaker 7: also think Roy Wood Jr. But those are the That's
Speaker 7: what I think about all.
Speaker 2: The current, all correspondence from the past.
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, I don't know, sam B. Sam
Speaker 7: B was there for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Remember there.
Speaker 7: I sent my package in and then I got to
Speaker 7: round two and then the process like there were like
Speaker 7: three rounds and it was really fun. But it was
Speaker 7: one of those weird things where like Twitter kind of
Speaker 7: did help me get that job. Twitter helped me get
Speaker 7: that job. Twitter helped me be aware that that was happening.
Speaker 7: Twitter helped make that job a more equitable process for
Speaker 7: some people. And it produced a writer's room that is
Speaker 7: varied and comes from different walks of life, but everyone
Speaker 7: is at their heart a very good comedy writer. So that,
Speaker 7: I mean, that's insane, and that's kind of the world
Speaker 7: that we're living in, and no one we get in
Speaker 7: trouble for this joke. But no one. I don't think
Speaker 7: any of my classmates went to an ivy. I mean
Speaker 7: any of my co writers went to an I Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 3: That's a good sign, especially if it's if it's a blind.
Speaker 3: It was a blind, you know, that's good.
Speaker 7: That's yeah, And we have nothing against I have nothing
Speaker 7: against like a path that is traditional when it comes
Speaker 7: to like going into a writer's room, but like just
Speaker 7: make sure that other people give access to things too well.
Speaker 4: And also John Stewart could have had anyone and that's
Speaker 4: I think that's the coolest part that kind of no
Speaker 4: one could believe. It's like he really has won so
Speaker 4: many goddamn Emmys and know so many people. And the
Speaker 4: choice he made was exactly the choice you make when
Speaker 4: you want to be of the current world, which is,
Speaker 4: don't use your old connections in your musty old stuff
Speaker 4: that like isn't you know, be get the kids now
Speaker 4: that are like hungry.
Speaker 3: And want to be a part of this. It's so smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's another reason to like that guy.
Speaker 1: And what is equivalent to saying you went to Harvard,
Speaker 1: the fact that you were a published McSweeney's writer, to me.
Speaker 3: Way better, cheaper, and better for.
Speaker 2: The past several decades.
Speaker 1: If you wrote anything for McSweeney's, it meant you were
Speaker 1: so intimidatingly smart that I can't be in the same room.
Speaker 7: Oh I'm I'm mcsweeeny's. McSweeney's was really really one of
Speaker 7: those things. I was like, holy shit, Oh it's crazy
Speaker 7: because I went it went mac Sweeney's and then like
Speaker 7: the two things for The New Yorker. But also when
Speaker 7: you do stand up, it's not that it doesn't help,
Speaker 7: is that people are like, are just gonna get up
Speaker 7: there and say a bunch of like s A T
Speaker 7: words and you're like, oh no, no, I'm I'm gonna talk
Speaker 7: about penises.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's not get into that.
Speaker 1: Quit judging me and go do a storytelling show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did you write about in McSweeney's.
Speaker 7: My mc sweeney's article, the one that worked. I think
Speaker 7: it was I did a list of things that black
Speaker 7: people like more than Donald Trump, because it was right
Speaker 7: after he said black people would he have to lose?
Speaker 7: And it was a list of things that black people hate,
Speaker 7: just just a list of things that black people demonstrably
Speaker 7: dislike as a rule, culturally, just things that black people
Speaker 7: are like, No, we don't, we don't have we don't
Speaker 7: want that at all.
Speaker 1: Well, I should have read it before this podcast, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to read it after because I do a
Speaker 1: lot of my work.
Speaker 2: I'm always I'm always learning.
Speaker 7: It was fun. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Are you're currently like you're me? How do you write
Speaker 1: for John Stewart right now? You're like this meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're zooming.
Speaker 7: We were in the office, now we're zooming more. We
Speaker 7: have an office, we've shot episodes, we take you get tests,
Speaker 7: you get swabbed all the time. Yeah, so that I mean,
Speaker 7: it's been a very very kind of like learn as
Speaker 7: everyone goes process in regards to starting the show, not
Speaker 7: like having the structures in place already, but like starting
Speaker 7: the show during all of this. Yeah, but they've been
Speaker 7: very kind and very safe and everyone has been on
Speaker 7: top of things, which is all. That's literally all you
Speaker 7: can ask for because it's so touch and go and
Speaker 7: you figure out what's gonna work, what's not gonna work,
Speaker 7: whenever it does, whenever it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lucky to be doing. Uh. We all have
Speaker 3: jobs that you can do remotely.
Speaker 4: I always think, especially in the beginning when we're all
Speaker 4: still quarantined, are you used to get I couldn't let
Speaker 4: myself think about like bus drivers or like you know, people,
Speaker 4: it's just so upsetting where it's just it's just unfair.
Speaker 7: You'll get because you'll go, oh my god, yeah, I
Speaker 7: the city would shut down.
Speaker 4: Yes, but that means they have to take the hit.
Speaker 4: Like it's so just that imbalance and how you know
Speaker 4: from the beginning, I don't know anyway, it's like every
Speaker 4: time I get on a zoom, I want to complain
Speaker 4: about the timing is awkward and it hurts comedy and
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But ultimately it's like it means we're
Speaker 4: the luckiest people because we.
Speaker 7: Have Yeah, and I liked I liked zoom comedy in
Speaker 7: the sense that I think it just gave you a
Speaker 7: lot of free camera work, very aware of what works
Speaker 7: and what doesn't for the camera.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, the best thing to come out
Speaker 1: of this is I now own a ring light, right,
Speaker 1: And yeah, if we were because Karen and I were
Speaker 1: the bus drivers of podcasts, we used to drive around
Speaker 1: in a car. I don't know if you know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: then we otherwise would never have New York comics or
Speaker 1: be able to have you on.
Speaker 2: So that's like the best silver lining.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get to book people from from wherever.
Speaker 7: Whenever, whenever I think of like the concept, though I
Speaker 7: have had those. I've had really great experiences people picking
Speaker 7: me up from the airport and take me to gigs,
Speaker 7: and I've had some experiences where I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: you definitely have dogs, all right, Okay, this is wow
Speaker 7: wow wow wow wow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we Karen and I will no longer go
Speaker 1: to LAX.
Speaker 3: We've decided that you can't. No one can't.
Speaker 4: Like if I know people that are some for some
Speaker 4: reasons flying into Los Angeles, I'm like, honestly, unless it's
Speaker 4: two thousand dollars extra, you've got to go to Burbank
Speaker 4: because you're you don't understand you're flying into a grid
Speaker 4: locked area that you will remain in for three hours.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I just realized we did do that to our guests
Speaker 1: a lot, because Karen did indeed have dog hair throughout
Speaker 1: her back seat, Oh my.
Speaker 3: God, and I had it was a haunt of fits.
Speaker 4: So uh, the seats were made of like that kind
Speaker 4: of sticky felt, so I go back there before we
Speaker 4: would record with like a sticky thing going back and forth,
Speaker 4: like a little bit like sweating. It doesn't like it
Speaker 4: weaves in and it becomes like a.
Speaker 3: Tweed of dog hair.
Speaker 4: It was so disgusting I would put a sheet over it.
Speaker 4: People will be like, what's up with your sheet?
Speaker 5: Back here?
Speaker 2: Oh I just murdered someone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've smothered them to death with dog hair in
Speaker 4: the backseat.
Speaker 7: I feel like a bad person that James taya, I
Speaker 7: have to like leave around.
Speaker 3: We've kept you so oh no, no.
Speaker 7: No, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our internal clocks were about to the alarms were
Speaker 1: about to go off, the high pitch ringing in my brain.
Speaker 2: I hate it, but I.
Speaker 7: Was that's uh, that's long COVID Chris, you know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that explains why I can't taste any of these
Speaker 1: hot dogs.
Speaker 3: Your ears bleeding?
Speaker 2: Oh again?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, and he just both have mic stand.
Speaker 1: Time to put on what I've been referring to as
Speaker 1: my gauze hat.
Speaker 2: All these bleeding ears of mine.
Speaker 3: Jay, do you have any plugs that you want to
Speaker 3: get out? Real quick?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: You go, No, you can.
Speaker 7: Anyone who listens to this number one, Thank you. Number two.
Speaker 7: You can find me on social media. It's Jay Jurden.
Speaker 7: I think I'm the only one of me in existence,
Speaker 7: except I can't get Jay Jurden the email. It's I
Speaker 7: don't know who has it. It's someone whose name probably
Speaker 7: isn't really j But I'll figure this out. I'll find you.
Speaker 7: That's actually what I want to say. Whoever, whoever the fuck.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're.
Speaker 7: I don't know who it is. They're a liar, that's
Speaker 7: who they are. And you know what, and they are blocking
Speaker 7: any and all career success I could have. That's what's happening.
Speaker 2: We're taking it.
Speaker 7: They're probably hiding emails from Marvel that they sent. Oh
Speaker 7: my gosh, I'm getting they have.
Speaker 4: You considered a Yahoo email account. What I'm saying, if
Speaker 4: no one wants it, so this will not happen.
Speaker 7: To you, yours, Karen on you yours.
Speaker 1: Your name, your name was sixty nine. It's an easy solution.
Speaker 7: Okay, yes, And you know what. It lets people know
Speaker 7: that I'm all in favor of reciprocity. That's that's or
Speaker 7: or that I'm a cancer, isn't that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's what it's about.
Speaker 3: And then when that means all kinds of things.
Speaker 7: No, but you can just follow me on social media.
Speaker 7: It's been more than a delight to talk to y'all.
Speaker 7: And this has been such a pleasurable car ride. I'm
Speaker 7: so glad I asked for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just leave you here at this corner then.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so just uh I'll do it. No, no,
Speaker 7: I'll I know, just out roll when I hop out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, great.
Speaker 3: I will break then I just okay, keep going in the.
Speaker 1: Movement class insert car doors sound effect here.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jay, you've been.
Speaker 4: To Thanks Jay, is great to see you and talk
Speaker 4: to you. That was so fun you've been.
Speaker 2: You've been listening to Do you need a ride?
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Speaker 2: The more we do that, the more ridiculous I find it.
Speaker 3: To be really good.
Speaker 2: We can never stop, We can never stop