1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: All right, third hour of Clan Buck. Get's going right now, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: and we had some breaking news to talk to you 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: about here in the last well kind of from yesterday, 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: I suppose, but breaking and that we haven't talked about 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: it here on the show, and that is that Speaker 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Johnson has gotten a top line spending deal, so there 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: will not be a government shut down as of last week. 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: There was discussion that on the border issue, which we 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: are about to dive into, there's so much distance between 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: the two sides that perhaps there would be a partial 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: government shutdown. I don't really want to get too deep 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: into the Speaker of the House conversation because I know 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: there are going to be people that feel very invested 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: that Mike Johnson is great, and there's some people maybe 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: that are having second thoughts. I would just point out 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: that we hear on this show told you a lot 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: of the speaker stuff that has gone on in the 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: Republican Party in the last year has been much more 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: about the personalities involved than changes in policy. And that's 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: evidence by the fact that there have been no changes 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: in policy and that the same outcomes happen when we 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: have McCarthy in, we had Johnson in. Now, maybe that 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: will change, but so far it hasn't changed. So I 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: think that sometimes we get a little caught up in 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: that everyone's like, well, this guy's a rhino and that 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: guy's not. Well, just wait till that guy becomes leadership 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: in the House and maybe people will be feeling all differently. 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the speaker thing though, 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: right now, Clay, because I think it's more important to 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: focus on although maybe we'll come back to it. We'll 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: certainly come back to it later in the week. I 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: believe the border crisis as it stands right now, we've 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: got I'm trying. I'm going from memory. I think, Clay, 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: when you were out they had the number, it was 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: basically seven hundred thousand. In stretching back to September, I 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: think it was seven or eight hundred thousand. I mean, you're 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: at a point now where there's over ten thousand migrants 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: a day coming into the US. I agree with people 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: that don't like the term migrant, and this has been 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: a very deliberate, deliberate decision. We can't say illegal alien anymore. 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: We can't say legal immigrant. We weren't going to say undocumented. 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: So now they've settled on migrant. The problem is they 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: are in a process. They're in a process, and until 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: that changes, nothing else changes. Here's Nancy Pelosi Clay saying, 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: the way to solve this is to honor our asylum responsibilities, 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: to cut one. 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: So we have to handle this with care. We must 50 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: secure our border, that's for sure, there's no question about that, 51 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: but we also must honor our responsibilities in terms of 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: asylum and the rest. And the President has that in 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: his proposed And what they say is, oh, it won't 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: make a difference. No, it will make a difference. Let's 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: get the job done, let's. 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Do it soon. Now she's lying. I mean it won't 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: make a difference if you believe that we want to 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: stop people from illegally coming into the country. This is 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: where it gets very complicated. People agree. I to talk 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: about that CBS poll the border seventy five percent basically 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: say it's a crisis. But then we get into who 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: do they blame for the crisis, What do I think 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 2: should be done about the crisis? Biden's president, so there's 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: some blame for him. There. The fundamental problem here is 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: that what Democrats want to do is have a more 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: orderly invasion of illegality, whereas they're at least some Republicans 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: who want the illegals to stop coming into the country. Yeah, 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: and look what they're gonna do. 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: This is my prediction. I think they're going to try 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: to muddy the waters here because of all the issues 71 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: that are out there right now. Biden is weakest on 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: the border an even traditional Democrats voters and even Democrat 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: supporters of Biden. The mayors of New York City, Chicago, 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: I saw with the mayor of Denver now has got 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: too many migrants there. They just can't handle it. And 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: I do think we need to give credit to Texas 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: Governor Greg Abbott his decision to begin busting all of 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: these illegals to the places where they want to go. Remember, 79 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: New York City is a sanctuary city, Washington, d C. 80 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: Sanctuary city, Chicago, Boston, all of these different cities Denver 81 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: that are now being flooded with illegal immigrants, all of 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: them supposedly wanted to have open borders and they wanted 83 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: to be places of refuge for all of these people 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: legally coming into the country. Until suddenly they had to 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: be responsible for it themselves. And Greg Abbott's game plan here, 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: and I think it was brilliant. I think it's been 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 4: brilliantly executed. Is it's easy to pretend there isn't a 88 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: crisis if you aren't on the border yourself, all of 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: you listening to us right now in Texas and in Arizona, 90 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: if you're anywhere near the border, you are constantly overrun. 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: This is a never ending crisis for you. But for 92 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: many parts of the country, you can just pretend this 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: isn't happening because it isn't crisis level in your community. 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: And what Greg Abbott did was he said, Okay, I'm 95 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: going to give you a small picture of what we 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: deal with in Texas on a daily basis. Came Remember, Buck, 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: this is only a pen prick of the number of 98 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: people that are coming illegally, that are being put on 99 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: buses and going to New York City, Chicago, Denver, these 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: other cities, and it's breaking their ability in those cities 101 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: to even handle this at all. It's not like a 102 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: million people are getting on these buses. What was the 103 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: number this year? Over three million illegals? I think came 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: in in twenty twenty three, and all it takes is 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: fifty or sixty thousand to break New York's city. And 106 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: this is what is going on now. I give credit 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: to Greg Abbott. It is completely altered the dynamics and 108 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: the discussion surrounding this. But what I think they're gonna do, 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 4: and I'm curious if you would sign on with this 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: as well, is one they're going to say, well, we're 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: making offers and Republicans won't actually sign on to the 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: fixes that we want, so they're actually to blame, right. 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: Blame shifting is going to be number one. Number two 114 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: is and I'm curious whether this is going to end 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: up happening. They're going to try to get something passed 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: that Joe Biden can sign and say, oh, I've solved 117 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: the issue at the border now to try to get 118 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: this blame off of his plate. Those are the two 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: things that I think are going to happen. Republicans are 120 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: to blame, which maybe some people will buy into. I 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: don't think very many, but they'll try it. And two, 122 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: they'll try some bill that doesn't actually address this at all, 123 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: because remember they want this. This is the this is 124 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: the is that they have. In general, they want open 125 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: borders effective. 126 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: This is why, this is why the language that's used 127 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: is so important. When they say secure the border, I 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: mean think of America like it's a party, and border 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: patrol is they're the bouncers to the party. And you 130 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: know there's fire code that can't let too many people in. 131 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: Republicans or at least the ones who are serious about 132 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: this issue, Trump, Desantists and others as well who are 133 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: running for president. Republicans are saying, hey, there are too 134 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: many people inside. People are sneaking in without paying. We 135 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: need to stop this. Democrats are saying, we just need 136 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 2: more bouncers to let more people in who haven't paid. 137 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: That's what's going on. So when they say, oh, we 138 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: want to send more security to the party, what they 139 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: mean is we want to make it easier. They want 140 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: to streamline the illegal entries into the country. They want 141 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: to make sure that they're able to be sort of 142 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: entered into the system. And understand when Nancy Pelosi says 143 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: we have a we have responsibilities in terms of asylum. 144 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: Part of that responsibility is if you don't get asylum 145 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: under law, you are supposed to be deported. You're supposed 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: to be sent home to the country, because asylum is 147 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: the same thing as refugee status. It's just asylum as 148 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: when you're already in the country, right, So it used 149 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: to be if you were sailing past you know, New 150 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: York Harbor and you're supposed to go somewhere else, he said, no, 151 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: I need asylum. You jump off. You're like, I need 152 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: asylum here in America. If you're a refugee, it means 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: you're applying to do the same kind of process but 154 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: from another country. 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: Right. 156 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: The issue now is you never get sent away. So 157 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: it's just a giant open door to come into America 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: and skip the whole immigration line. I mean, the whole 159 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: thing is a scam. 160 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: Not only that, your first appearance now in front of 161 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: a judge to consider your asylum claim. I'm sure you 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: saw this, buck. I think I saw this while I 163 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 4: was in Australia. Some of these guys are after two 164 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: thousand and thirty appearance notices. Now, think about how wild 165 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 4: that is. Seven years of living in the United States. 166 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: We know you even have to appear before judge. 167 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: There's no chance that they're not going to say they've 168 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: been in the community for seven years. It's heartless and 169 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: cruel for us to know lear say so, the whole 170 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: thing and probably they might might have had a kid 171 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: we're talking about. The whole thing is falling apart. But 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: it's not falling apart because, oh, we don't have laws 173 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: to address this. It's not falling apart because there's some 174 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: grand bargain that could be struck that would make everything better. 175 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: It's the refusal of our political elites. Democrats across the board, 176 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 2: but even some Republicans get in on this one too. 177 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: Even some of the donor class Republicans or they're big 178 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: fans of the cheap labor, let's be honest, they don't 179 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: want it to stop fundamentally. And everything else that people 180 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: are hearing this is to your point about how they're 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: going to blame the Republicans. Everything else is just a lie. 182 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: It's just a yeah. 183 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: And I think you crystallized this early last year, and 184 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: I've heard other people pick up on it. Democrats are 185 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: far more concerned about the Ukrainian border than they are 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: the United States border, and that is a really compelling 187 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: distillation of two distinct issues that it's very hard to 188 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: argue against. I think that cuts through the noise when 189 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: you hear Joe Biden talking about how we need to 190 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: spend one hundred billion dollars to protect Ukraine's border. 191 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: How much money? This is a good question. 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: How much money do you think it would take to 193 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 4: actually shut down our southern border and not allow anybody 194 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: else in. I feel like one hundred billion dollars probably 195 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: would do it. Oh a lot of us A lot, yes, 196 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: But I mean one hundred billion for sure. And if 197 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: you ask the American public right now, would you rather 198 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: give a hundred billion to secure the border of Ukraine 199 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 4: to the best of their ability or one hundred billion 200 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: to the United States to secure our southern border. 201 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: That's a seventy thirty issue. 202 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 4: I think in terms of American voter at least maybe 203 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: seventy five, twenty five, maybe even eighty twenty. 204 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: I think that people are recognizing the scam here. They're 205 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: starting to understand the way that this works and what 206 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: the what the real end state goal from the Democrats is, 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: which is the continuation of this. And I always want 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: to say, I mean, right now, clay people across the country, 209 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just sort of bring this home for 210 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: a second. I mean, all immigration stuff is here at home. 211 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: But for for people listening, they can afford half the 212 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: house they could three years ago. That's just a fact 213 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: by based on mortgage rates. Yes, they're paying more for food, 214 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 2: gas in logic, I mean, the inflation number CPI is 215 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: a joke. Everybody. We know that, right, because CPI measures 216 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: the increase in the cost except for food and energy. Well, 217 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: for most people, what are the things you know, gasing 218 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: your car and food you know on the dinner table, 219 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: those are the things that you have to deal with 220 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: the most frequently and hurt your budget the most, right, 221 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: because that's money you have to spend. It's not really discretionary. 222 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: So all that's going on, and you got higher and 223 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: higher defaults on car loans, people running up more and 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: more credit card debt. They can't afford what they were 225 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: And when I say used to, I'm not talking about 226 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: oh ago three years ago. Can't afford what they could 227 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: three years ago in terms of a house to live in. 228 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: And they're gonna be eight million illegals in the country 229 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: this year getting free housing, free medical care, free everything 230 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: courtesy of the taxpayer. I mean, if it's not a problem, 231 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: why is New York City screaming about this and saying 232 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: we can't handle this anymore. People are seeing in and 233 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: understanding it in a way that they hadn't before that 234 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: the lawlessness has costs, economic costs, social costs. It's real 235 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: to them. 236 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: And not only that Buck as we go to break here, 237 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: think about this, they're also note what New York City 238 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: and Chicago's of the world are saying. They're demanding a 239 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: federal bailout. They want you and me and every single 240 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 4: person out there paying tax is to actually pay for 241 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: their open sanctuary city status. They want you, who lives 242 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: nowhere near New York City or Chicago to bear the 243 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: cost that they are bearing as a federal taxpayer. That's 244 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: what they're demanding right now from Joe Biden and everyone else. 245 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: And they'll push for amnesty as soon as they have 246 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: a Democrat safely ensconced in for Biden. Harris News, I 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: don't even care who it is. If a Democrat is 248 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: president in twenty twenty five, you will start to hear 249 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: the gods. The only way to solve this is amnesty. 250 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: And for those who are going to say, oh, but 251 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: they might not have the House in the Senate, they 252 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: might not have the you know the votes necessary, they'll 253 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: try it with an executive order of some kind. They'll 254 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: try to just abuse the law and make it something 255 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: that's already finished before anyone can do anything about it. 256 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: No doubt, if you're in the listening to great podcasts, 257 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: we've got a recommendation for you. 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Check out 277 00:14:53,960 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: our American Stories. That's our American Stories. Keith is real, honest. 278 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back in Clay Travis 279 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 280 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: We are rolling through the third hour of the program, 281 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: Monday edition. Appreciate you guys. Go download the podcast. Make 282 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: sure you don't miss a moment. We mentioned earlier in 283 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: the program that Joe Biden is speaking in Charleston, sight 284 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: of the twenty fifteen mass shooting that led inside of 285 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: a black church, speaking to some of the challenges that 286 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: Biden is facing in his coalition. His speech inside of 287 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: that black church was interrupted by pro Palestinian protesters who also, 288 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: by the way, Buck and I'm sure many of our 289 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: New York City listeners unfortunately experienced this shut down many 290 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: of the roadways in New York City this morning for 291 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: people trying to come into work. But this is what 292 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: it sounded like as pro Palestinian protesters interrupted that Biden speech. 293 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: Listen, that's all right, that's all right, that's all right. 294 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 7: I understand that, I understand their passion, and I've been 295 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 7: quietly working, I've been quietly working the Israeli government to 296 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 7: get them to reduce this to me. 297 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: And there's Biden kind of answering to that. But buck 298 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: this to me is what is one of the big 299 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: challenges that Biden faces is the left has actually connected 300 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: the experience that they believe black people face in America 301 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: with the fact that Palestinians, who they see as brown, 302 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: are also being in their opinion, over by white Jewish 303 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: Israelis and that distillation there. He can't even disconnect them 304 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: because he's trying to speak about this thing that happened 305 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: nine years ago and the thing that's going on right 306 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: now directly confront him. 307 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: Yes, And just also the fact that there's the first 308 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: impulse isn't to say how disrespectful it really is to 309 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: show up in that churches even the subject matter and 310 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: start whining about Palestinians. I mean, it's pretty insane, but 311 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: these people are insane. And this is why what do 312 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: I think blocking traffic in New York City is going 313 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: to do? They're blocking traffic by other Democrats, like they're 314 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: blocking people that agree with them, probably politically, from getting 315 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: to work. It's not changing any minds. 316 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: First thing that happened Buck, when I was traveling for 317 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: the holidays, we landed at lax Never, Palestinian protesters trying 318 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 4: to shut down the airport pathways there forever. 319 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: To get out. It's happening to people all over the country. 320 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: It almost is annoying those people who flew themselves to 321 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: the paintings. If you're concerned about the future of the 322 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: US dollar, your instincts are right on. 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But 340 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: eight hundred two eight eight a two on the phone line. 341 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: You want to chat with us, Let's go because we 342 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: haven't taken a call you today. Glen and I are 343 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: so fired upbout everything we want to hear from you. 344 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: We have Kyle in Kentucky. What's going on? Kyle? 345 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 8: Hey, I love the show. Thank My wife travels for 346 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 8: the past couple of years three weeks a month to 347 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 8: southern California, and she's finding that she's having to use 348 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 8: her I'd say elite status with some of the hotel 349 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 8: chains because of her frequent staying to get rooms because 350 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 8: they're all booked up with illegals with vouchers. 351 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: I look, I saw the number buck I was reading. 352 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: Is it over forty hotels in New York City that 353 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: they are putting illegals. 354 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: In right now? 355 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: I think that was the number that I've either thirty 356 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: or forty, and either one of those numbers was staggering 357 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: to me that they would take over that number of 358 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: hotel hells. If you have ever traveled to New York 359 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: City before, you know how expensive hotels are to be. 360 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 4: Thinking that you could be in South America and you 361 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: would come to the United States and they would put 362 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: you in a free hotel room and feed you. 363 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: Tell me how you wouldn't believe that this is the 364 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: land of milk and honey. 365 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: A lot of you out there couldn't afford a hotel 366 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: room if you had to pay for it yourself over Christmas. 367 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: Season, because it's so expensive. 368 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: To think that that's happening all over the country is crazy. 369 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: And I saw a buck that California now will pay 370 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: for a legal immigrant sex change change. 371 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: Did you see this? Yes? I like to use the 372 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: old school term too, because now we're supposed to say 373 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: gender affirmation surgery. Oh yeah, sex. They like to say 374 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: sex trage operation, which but even sex change operation in 375 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: a sense is a misnomer because you can't actually change 376 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: your sex. It does not work. They cannot do this. 377 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: It's not like they can put all the lady parts 378 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: on you and then you're a woman who can actually 379 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: have babies and all that. Although you know, they are 380 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: trying to work more and more into that range of things, 381 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: which is, you know, we're getting really getting really deep 382 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: down down the rabbit hole, so to speak. We have 383 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: Jody in Utah with a question about illegals. What's up, Jody? 384 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 9: Hey, not much good to talk to you guys. Hey, So, 385 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 9: I know Joe Biden can pardon his son if he 386 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 9: gets prosecuted before the end of his term or before he. 387 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: Direct and he will, by the way, But yes, and. 388 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 9: I believe that one n you know, crks good everything. 389 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 9: So anyway, but what I'm curious about is the illegal situation. 390 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 9: Can he I know he can pardon people. Can he 391 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 9: give every immigrant illegal? Why you're going to call him 392 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 9: across the border anty? 393 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: That's his way out? 394 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: That's actually a fascinating legal question. I would I would think, 395 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think he can give them amnesty? Well, 396 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: he would be amnesty as right. 397 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: It would go into the courts because it would be 398 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: seen as a you know, to do something like that 399 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: as a usurpation of the legislative prerogative of Congress to 400 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: set laws. But then again, when people are pardoned, they 401 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: violate laws that Congress has set. So it really comes 402 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: into whether the courts would view that as a nullification 403 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: and effectively a separation of powers issue. But this is 404 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: what I mean they will do. People didn't realize, Clay, 405 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: it was very clever what the Obama administration did. I mean, 406 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 2: it almost worked. They said, remember it was all about dreamers. 407 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: You notice you don't even hear about dreamers anymore, but 408 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: it was about dreamers. Because as soon as they got 409 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: that going, they were going to expand the definition of 410 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: a dreamer to be as you know, it was gonna 411 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: be like they said, it was going to initially a 412 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: million people are eight hundred thousand. They're going to expand 413 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: it to three or four or five million, and then 414 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna expand it to the parents. Stop up, people 415 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: don't even remember this deferred action for the parents of 416 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: arrivals DAPA they were going to do with just a oh, 417 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: it's just for dreamers. Eight to ten million person legalization 418 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: with Republicans going, you know, that seems like a good deal. 419 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 4: And remember again, on top of this, what's important even 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: if the court strikes this down, and we saw the 421 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: court strike down vaccine mandates, we saw the court strike 422 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: down the eviction moratoriums, we saw the court strike down 423 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: the erasure. 424 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: Of student debt. What do they then do, and I 425 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: think this will be the result. 426 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: When we see the court strike down what Colorado and 427 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: Maine have done to try to take Donald Trump off 428 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: the ballot, they say, oh, this is an illegitimate court. 429 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: That's why we need to expand and pack the court 430 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: with more justices. So they're setting a recipe to will 431 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: allow them to win no matter what happens. If the 432 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: court supports their action, then they get the result they wanted. 433 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 4: If the court strikes down their action, then it's only 434 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: because of all the Trump appointed justices. And this is 435 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: why we need new judges to expand the Supreme Court. 436 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: Also, though, it brings me back to Socrates and the Republic, 437 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: which I guess is by Plato, or rather as Bill 438 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: and Ted and their excellent adventure called him. So creates? 439 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: Is a law really a law? And if the law 440 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: is not enforced at all? Right, at what point do 441 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: we recognize that it's just absurd that the immigration laws 442 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: that we have are ignored the way that they are. 443 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, on the other side of things, you know, 444 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: try telling the irs. Try telling somebody about tax law, 445 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: which is immensely complicated, and I would argue very corrupt 446 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: in many ways that the law isn't the law, or 447 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: rather the law is open to interpretation. Good luck with 448 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: that one, Mike in Hilton Head, South Carolina. What have 449 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: you got for us, Mike, Yes, thanks for having me. 450 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 5: I don't know if a lot of folks around the 451 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: country know that South Carolina has separated the Democratic and 452 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: Republican prime therey of the primary votes. They moved the 453 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 5: Democrats moved theirs up to February the third, and the 454 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: Republicans aren't until three weeks later. So if they want 455 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 5: to run Operation Chaos, that's the Democrats want to, you know, 456 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: not vote in their primary there they can move their 457 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 5: votes to the Republican primary. Because we're not a you 458 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 5: don't have to deplayer in South Carolina. 459 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: You could only vote in one primary. But he's saying, 460 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: he says, if you sit out February third, you could 461 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 4: show up on February the twenty fifth, or whatever the 462 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: date was when this is taking place. Yeah, look, I 463 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: mean the reason Democrats shifted their date in South Carolina 464 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: is because they have decided that Iowa and New Hampshire 465 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: have too many white this is true, have too many 466 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 4: white voters, and as a result, they want to allow 467 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 4: New Hampshire, I mean, sorry, South Carolina to weigh in 468 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 4: before New Hampshire does. And Joe Biden certainly has nothing 469 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: in favor of Iowa New Hampshire, which has overwhelmingly rejected 470 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 4: all of his presidential candidacies. And it's the reason he's 471 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 4: president now is because James Cliburn said, South Carolina, Biden's 472 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: the choice, go out and vote for him. 473 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: You know. And the mention of Operation Chaos there is interesting, 474 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: of course, But I would just say, who Democrats right 475 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: now are sure they want what outcome in South Carolina? 476 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: You know? You you know, depending on who you ask, 477 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: they would want Trump to win, but other people would 478 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: say no, they actually would want Hamley. I mean, you know, 479 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: so you know, if there was a candidate, if there 480 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: was a candidate that was so clearly viable but weak 481 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: against Biden, maybe, but I'm not so sure that Democrats 482 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: think that they that they know who they want to 483 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: go up against right now. So that would be a 484 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: tough one. Yea, I'm talking about the average voter, not 485 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: like tell you Brat's strategists. 486 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 487 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: I think the challenge for Democrats is there was a 488 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 4: lot of talk we're one week out from Iowa about 489 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 4: electability last year. Have you heard very much talk about 490 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: electability on the Republican side. I think Biden is so 491 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 4: much weaker than anybody anticipated even a year ago, that 492 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people out there that believe any 493 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: Republican can beat Biden. 494 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: I just tell you, Clay, this is now what I'm 495 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: dealing with in my life. Somehow. It's like I've become 496 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: I'm almost like running a comm shop here for the 497 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: Biden will be the nominee. Uh, because I get people 498 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: in my life that are there anytime there's a whisper 499 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: about someone other than Biden might be the you might 500 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: be the Democrat nominee. I get all these text messages, 501 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: like friends of mine from high school, people I know 502 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: in New York, They're like, see buddy, see I see here. 503 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, am I am I really the only one 504 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: that they know that things that Biden's gonna end up 505 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: being the nominee. 506 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I just I look at it, and 507 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: I think what they're waiting for is they're hoping that 508 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 4: they get a glimmer of hope. 509 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: It's like if you're playing in a football game. 510 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: We got the National Championship game between Michigan and Washington. 511 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 4: If one team comes out and gets up twenty one 512 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 4: to nothing, your team then comes back and scores a 513 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: touchdown and gets a stop, and you're like, Okay, we 514 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: can still make a game of this. Democrats are waiting 515 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: for the polls to start to show, Okay, we can 516 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: make a game of this. The problem that I think 517 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: they have, and this goes with the Paul Bagala clip 518 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: that you played earlier where he just set attacks seven times. 519 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: The problem is Biden can't stand on what he's done. 520 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: And I think Trump it's hard to stand on December 521 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: sixth now that you're trying to put him on January sixth, 522 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: now that you're trying to put him in prison for 523 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: the rest of his life. 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Mark Vip wrote 569 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: in DeSantis has never said he would not be Trump's VP. 570 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: He has danced around it by saying he is more 571 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: of a number one guy. I've said this many times. 572 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: JFK TOOKLBG LBJ on and they hated each other. No, 573 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: DeSantis has said directly that he would not be Trump's 574 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: vice president. He has said that to me, I think 575 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: in an interview, I think he said it on this 576 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: show with US. I think DeSantis has been pretty clear. 577 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: I do not see any way He's Trump's vice president. 578 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: Do you agree with that? 579 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: Buck? Would you be stunned beyond belief? 580 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: Leaving a side potentially the constitutional issues of having two 581 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: guys who are residents of the same state. 582 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: I think it is more likely that you or I 583 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: would be Trump's VP than Ron DeSantis would be Trump's VP. 584 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: That's how certain I am that Ron will not be 585 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Trump's VP. 586 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: Now the flip side is we think Nicky Haley would 587 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: take the VP and a heartbeat right, you agree. 588 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: With me that, no question. Think of the speaking fees afterwards, Man, 589 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: the book should get a book deal probably five five 590 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: to ten million advance. Have someone else writ it for 591 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: making two hundred and fifty k of POP on those speeches. 592 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: The board seats that would be hers after a VP stint, 593 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: oh Man, be amazing. 594 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 4: So we think Nicky would take VP. Nicky Hayley, we 595 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: think Vivegue would take VP. I think that's fair. I 596 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: understand he has said and sometimes look, I understand the 597 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: skepticism from Mark here. A lot of candidates who end 598 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 4: up being the vice president say they would not have 599 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: been the vice president. Tim Scott, I think we said 600 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: this from the get go, would be vice president, right, 601 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: he would take yeh. 602 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: He's kind of faded from the conversation away. I don't 603 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: even think anyone's talking about him as a possibility at 604 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: this point anymore. Christy Nome's still in the mix. 605 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: I think at least Stephonic has gotten in the mix 606 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: with her questioning. She's obviously been a big Trump supporter. 607 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 4: Kerry is focused so on Senate. She's focusing on her 608 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: Senate run. I believe now that's right. If she were governor, 609 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: I think she would be at the very top of 610 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: the list. She's running for senate obviously in Arizona. I 611 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: think Sarah huckaby Sanders in the event that Trump decides 612 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: he wants to go with a woman, I think Sarah 613 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: Huckabye Sanders is out there. I would put in my 614 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: own backyard here. I know she's running for reelection. I 615 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: like her a lot. Marcia Blackburn I would float as 616 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: somebody that might be in that mix. She has a 617 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 4: good relationship with Trump, has been very supportive of him, 618 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: she's running for reelection in the Senate. I think there 619 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: are a bunch of people out there that would be 620 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: in the mix. DeSantis is the only person that I 621 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: feel comfortable saying he wouldn't take it, right. I think 622 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 4: a lot of other people, Well, Chris Christy's not gonna 623 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 4: get it. I don't know I'd even think Chris Christy 624 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: would take it. Honestly, even though he hates Trump, He's 625 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: not gonna get it offered. DeSantis is the only guy 626 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: I can think of. Brian Kemp at Georgia I don't 627 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: think would take it. They obviously don't get along, so 628 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to get the offer. 629 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: And it also in terms of the election itself, I 630 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: don't think it matters all that much who the vice 631 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: president is. It will matter a whole lot more if 632 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: we had a Trump victory and then he gets two 633 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: years in and then all of a sudden you realize 634 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: he's on the way out and the vice president you 635 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: would think would be the party's nominee. 636 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 8: Yeah. 637 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 4: I want to give credit to my father in law here, Buck, 638 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: because I had somehow missed this. We've talked a lot 639 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: about the idea of Biden stepping down if he is 640 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 4: re elected, because then you get Kamala Harris to run. 641 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: Remember Kamala. 642 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 4: He would not be able to step down and allow 643 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 4: Kamala to run for two terms until after two years 644 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: of his term was fulfilled. I had totally forgotten this. 645 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 4: You can be vice president, elevated to president and run 646 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 4: for two terms, but only if you are elevated to 647 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: president for two years of what two years? Or electing 648 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 4: sports where you have the eligibility years. Yes, yes, yes, 649 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 4: but I had forgotten about that. I was talking about 650 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 4: it with my father in law recently. Yeah, very good point, 651 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: because so Biden would have to serve two years in 652 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 4: a day, and then Kamala Harris could serve one year, 653 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty four days if she were to 654 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 4: be elevated and still run twice. I still think that 655 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: they would. They would that he wouldn't get to the 656 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 4: two year mark. I think that meaning that he would 657 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: just hand over term one wholesale to Kamala. Yeah, well 658 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: that could visibly be true, but then she would only 659 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: have one term she could run for. 660 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: All right, tell me about Barbie. 661 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: You tease that you as a huge officionado of the 662 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: Barbie franchise. Wow, spent your weekend making your I know 663 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 4: you blocked off four hours to watch it back to back. 664 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: Make sure that you loved it. I just want all 665 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: the Lord of the Rings fans to notice that he 666 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: even hit me for the extended edition Lord of the 667 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: Rings at Clay Travis on Twitter if you want to 668 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: light him up, Clay, I'm honest to god. I sat 669 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: down with Carrie and I'm like, we're gonna, We're gonna 670 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: make it through, Honey. We couldn't. We got I think 671 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: thirty minutes into it, I was like, I can't do 672 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 2: it anymore. Really, I can't do it anymore. It's so bad. 673 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: It was so bad. I don't know. Did she not 674 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: like it either or did she keep watching? Oh no, 675 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: she hated it too. We did not make it more 676 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: than thirty minutes in. The Barbie movie was worse than 677 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: the Ferrari movie. I didn't even think that was possible. 678 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: I didn't even think that was a thing that could 679 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: happen in the space time continuum with the flex capacitor. 680 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 4: Well, to be fair to everybody out there, I did watch. 681 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: I mentioned this or romantic comedy on the airplane flight 682 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: back from Australia. 683 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 8: Love. 684 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: Actually, I thought it was pretty good Buck. I hadn't 685 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: seen it. 686 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: Card and you don't even realize it. That man Card 687 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: is toast. I laughed out loud a lot of times 688 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: during that movie. I didn't think it was bad.