00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest, you're presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We are in the backyard. What's going on. I'm trying to think of what you're doing right now? What are you doing? Maybe you're taking a walk, maybe you're on a plane. Maybe maybe you're just got in a huge fight with your mom. I don't know, but I'm here for you. What's happening with me? I took a nap at noon, and that's kind of a new experience. I don't think I've ever napped that early in the day. I also need to buy a new hose. So those are the two. Those are kind of the defining things in my life right now. So we should probably get into the podcast. I'm very, very excited about today's guest. It's Nick Dodani. Nick. Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:35 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Bridget. 00:01:36 Speaker 2: We had a little bit of rain, a little bit set off some alarm bells in my head, so I'm trying to remain calm. 00:01:43 Speaker 3: It's not raining anymore. 00:01:44 Speaker 2: No, it's kind of overcast. 00:01:46 Speaker 3: I don't know who said this, but every storm ends beautiful. 00:01:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, every storm ends, except for the last three months of Los Angeles. 00:01:55 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, that's true. That's not ending. 00:01:57 Speaker 2: This is simply not going away. 00:02:00 Speaker 3: What's been going on with you? I just got back from a big trips in New York. I'm a co producer on Life Pie Broadway right. We opened last month and it's running right now. It's my first time doing this kind of thing, so it's been a big learning experience, kind of sure, seeing what the Broadway world is like and cutthroat, absolutely cutthroat. Do you know, I wouldn't say cutthroat. Everyone's really like happy and excited to be there. 00:02:27 Speaker 2: That's true. My boyfriend is a Broadway person and he saw Life. You're gay? What I'm gay? 00:02:33 Speaker 3: You said, boyfriend? 00:02:35 Speaker 2: No, I meant to say my wife. 00:02:37 Speaker 3: Okay, good, because I don't know if I can do I'm looking at the producer of her. I don't think I can do this otherwise. 00:02:42 Speaker 2: No, I'm straight. I'm absolutely straight. I I have a wife and four kids. Okay, so my wife was saw a Life of Pie on Broadway. 00:02:49 Speaker 3: Amazing, she loved it. Oh good, I'm glad she loved it. 00:02:52 Speaker 2: Jim. She's a beautiful woman and we have such a good time. 00:02:56 Speaker 3: Did you really see it? 00:02:57 Speaker 2: He saw? And he really he was amazed. Good, so happy because they're they're like the do we call them puppets? 00:03:03 Speaker 3: Puppets? 00:03:03 Speaker 2: They're giant? I mean, but they're and I don't want to diminish puppets, but they're beyond what you expect of a puppet. It's not what I've seen. 00:03:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not your sock puppet. Simply, not a son, simply not a sock puppet. No, the puppets are insane. They really steal the show, especially the tiger Richard Parker. 00:03:22 Speaker 2: I think that's the one thing I've seen. 00:03:24 Speaker 3: There's a there's a team of I think seven or eight puppeteers that rotate because it's so physically taxing that they have to take shifts. 00:03:33 Speaker 2: Is it because is the tiger really heavy? 00:03:35 Speaker 3: Tiger's really heavy? There's a person inside the tiger, Oh not letting flat like hunched over. 00:03:42 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, that requires their. 00:03:45 Speaker 3: Arms are controlling the front legs and the back legs and tail are controlled by another person, and the head is controlled by another person. And occasionally, if there's a lot of stuff going on, there's one or two aditional puppeteers who help move it. 00:04:02 Speaker 2: Wait, what what other stuff would be going on when these two extra people have. 00:04:06 Speaker 3: To show up when the tiger's jumping around? Oh? 00:04:10 Speaker 2: Okay ya, wow, Yeah, I would love to see that. I love. I went to the Bob Baker Marionette Theater for the first time. How was that January? It was wonderful? Have you ever been? No, I saw a concert there, Marionette concert. No, it was a rock concert. Rock concert is such a corny thing to say, isn't it? Rock and roll? 00:04:31 Speaker 3: Roll jam SASH. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: They host like a concert series there a band that I love played. My home was literally flooding while it was happening, and I had bought tickets, So I just went forgot all of my cares. 00:04:46 Speaker 3: That's the really healthy thing to do. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: To kind of just put your problems bury them. 00:04:52 Speaker 3: What is property? 00:04:53 Speaker 2: What is property? 00:04:54 Speaker 3: You don't need to worry about. 00:04:55 Speaker 2: It's just something that can get wet over and over and over, and. 00:04:59 Speaker 3: Who can I wouldn't know, I don't know anything. Well, just prepare yourself. 00:05:03 Speaker 2: Okay, Nick, this is something this morning I actually want to ask you about. This is an interesting thing. I think I may have accidentally invented some new slang. 00:05:14 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:05:15 Speaker 2: I saw a headline that said Jennifer Lopez's new drink is pissing off her fans. And the first thing that went off in my mind was that not that she had like a beverage, but like that new drink was a slang, like her new thing is pissing off her fans. And I think new drink might be a nice I mean, and then when you start talking about inventing slang, it kind of takes away from it. But like, uh, what could your new drink be? My new drink is taking a nap at noon. I feel like this is a new thing. Everybody's going to start saying, new drink, what's your new drink. 00:05:49 Speaker 3: My new drink. I don't know what my new drink is. Oh man, so you took one nap at noon and now that's your new drink. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: This is my new drink. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: There's like a really low bar for new new drinks. 00:05:59 Speaker 2: Yes, it can be really anything, anything slightly new thing in your life. Okay, I mean it could be pissing off your fans. 00:06:06 Speaker 3: Uh, that would require having fans. 00:06:10 Speaker 2: We all have fans, are parents, that's true? 00:06:13 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I spoke to your parents before this actually and are not You can count them as fans anymore. My new drink is actually checking my mail. I recently went through a fat stack of bills that I assumed also came in electronically. Right, but we're simply just unpaid. Oh no for a long time. Oh for how like months, over a year? No, over a year? 00:06:43 Speaker 2: Had you been sent to collections or anything? Huh oh no? 00:06:46 Speaker 3: It was like one medical bill was literally six dollars. I didn't know this bill existed, and uh yeah, I went to collections fully. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: Just ruins your credit score. 00:06:57 Speaker 3: I mean I was wondering what was going on with the score, because, like, you know, that's wildly yeah, six dollars. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: The doctor's office of the hospital just wait for you to show back up. 00:07:07 Speaker 3: Or just like let it go, leave me alone. The amount of money they spent on hiring a collections agency can't see worthwhile. 00:07:14 Speaker 2: So do you just have like a mountain of mail piling up at your place or what's going on there. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what I've done, and I've I'm truly my new drink is learning that this is stupid. Is any bill that I've gotten in the mail? I kind of just thrown in a pile, assuming that, like I've also got received an email of course. Of course, it's just been automatical with some of them. They are duplicative, right, I have received an email. Some of them there was no email. 00:07:38 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: Email I check, and the emails I pay. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: Of course. Well, and usually when it comes as an email, it's already kind of hooked into your credit card or whatever. They're kind of just taking it in the night. I feel like medical bills and dental bills are weirdly still arriving by mail. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: Ye, weirdly, And you don't expect you think this one was a dentist. 00:07:57 Speaker 2: Oh geez, yeah, I mean the dental problem on this podcast I could fill and they do hundreds of episodes. I'm sorry to hear. What was the six dollars for? Did she get a new retainer? 00:08:10 Speaker 3: I honestly don't even know what it was for. I was actually like, what costs six dollars? 00:08:14 Speaker 2: Right? 00:08:14 Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it was like a late fee or like something like the amount of my insurance. 00:08:21 Speaker 2: Covered everything up to six dollars, right, like simply couldn't go. 00:08:25 Speaker 3: I really don't. And I didn't even care because I was like, I'm just going to pay the six all. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Right, We've got to get I think a nice secret from checking your mail is you've got to subscribe to a magazine or something, something that you'll be looking forward. 00:08:39 Speaker 3: To singing the mail. That's true. 00:08:41 Speaker 2: I don't know what that is for me. What what do I look forward to singing the mail? Kind of nothing. My mom sends me postcards. Oh that's sweet, yeah, very sweet. She makes cards fan she's a fan in some ways. I don't know that she's a listener, but she occasionally I suppose. But getting those is nice. 00:09:01 Speaker 3: That is really that's really sweet. 00:09:03 Speaker 2: Subscribe to a magazine? What else? What other things? Do I guess? Order things for yourself. You can get seeds by male seeds. 00:09:14 Speaker 3: Do you often seeds? 00:09:16 Speaker 2: My brother sent me some seeds in the mail for purple peas and a pepper that will not grow. The peas grow, peppers don't. I don't know what the situation is. Get some seeds by Maya. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: That sounds so like good for the soul your mailbox and finding seeds something to grow, and then planting them and then complaining about what grows and what doesn't. 00:09:40 Speaker 2: I mean, that's shaming your brother's gift, if that's them I used to get my sister gave me for my birthday once a year long subscription to Socks by Male Once someone that was getting socked. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: I thought that was a magazine for a second. That was a bad idea for magazine. 00:09:55 Speaker 2: Now you and I started a new magazine called All the Socks, entirely about socks. That's what's spelled traditional. Okay, So I mean it is kind of by the book. There's nothing new or edgy about this sock magazine. 00:10:09 Speaker 3: There's no X or two s's. 00:10:12 Speaker 2: Socks with an X. Then you've got baseball teams mixed steps and. 00:10:16 Speaker 3: What about three x's. 00:10:19 Speaker 2: Now it's like an erotic magazine. Yeah, but then what I guess everyone's wearing socks and nothing else hot. There we go. 00:10:26 Speaker 3: We just cracked it. We've got an empire. Wow, cut this part out and then we can actually do this. 00:10:32 Speaker 2: No, this is the launch of the new magazine. We're getting the word out right now. 00:10:36 Speaker 1: I love it. 00:10:37 Speaker 3: Will you be on the first cover, I'm. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: Of course, but just your wife, Jim, my wife and I will be in socks only. Yes, great, Just you'll just see a photo from knee down. Uh and people are going to want to know what's happening about that big huh? 00:10:54 Speaker 3: Wow? How did we get to Oh? I don't know things in the mail? Oh yeah, okay, see what's your new drink? Well, you real new drink? 00:11:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, my real new drink. I'll tell you what my new drink is. I'm going to see movies. I have the movie pass or whatever the hell it's called. If a movie is over ninety minutes long, well over two hours long, I say say to myself, go see you an hour and a half of it, and if you want to stay you can Otherwise just walk out of the theater. I've done this with two movies already. 00:11:21 Speaker 3: Have you walked out? Yeah? What'd you walk out of? 00:11:23 Speaker 2: Avatar? Okay, so an hour and a half of Avatar is like, I don't know that anything else is going to change in this movie. It'll be I know what this is. Yeah, then John Wick four, that movie is three hours long. Yeah, so you left the intermission I basically left it, and I might go back. Yeah, but it's nice to not have that pressure of being like that is because life is short. Life is short. After ninety minutes in a movie, I think that they should start paying you to be there. You should get overtime or something. 00:11:50 Speaker 3: If you're not in it by ninety I think it's fair to. 00:11:54 Speaker 2: Walk out, right. I think that is my new drink. On a least. Do you have a new drink? 00:11:59 Speaker 4: Having a coffee at like one o'clock in the afternoon? 00:12:02 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:12:02 Speaker 4: Interesting, because I think starting it too early I get I get morning anxiety. 00:12:07 Speaker 3: So if I have a coffee. 00:12:08 Speaker 4: At like one, I'm already awake. Okay, it gives me that nice pep because then usually you crash in the afternoon. It avoids that crash. I usually it's like half and half. I do like half calf situation. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: You're drinking a fiftieth of the amount of caffeine that I consume. 00:12:23 Speaker 4: This is true. I think that might kill you. Would never sleep again if you had another if you had. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: No What I'm saying is I like, by one o'clock, I've had like five hundred milligrams of caffee and then I wait an hour that I need more, okay, fair, and then I need my evening caffeine, which can only come from soda from Dia coke for me, then coffee after four o'clock. 00:12:44 Speaker 3: I'm a nightmare. I drink coffee when I'm board, of course. Like that's how much caffeine I need. 00:12:50 Speaker 2: Do you like a good? 00:12:51 Speaker 3: Like? 00:12:51 Speaker 2: Are you a coffee snob or just any sort of coffee? 00:12:54 Speaker 3: I would say I'm a coffee snob. I like a latta okay. You know I used to hot hot, preferably. Are you from La Arizona? Originally interesting that you like a drink? 00:13:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm almost strictly a cold coffee person. 00:13:10 Speaker 3: You know, when it's frigid. You said you were gay, right. 00:13:13 Speaker 2: No, it's my church needs to know. I got why for children. 00:13:18 Speaker 3: I went through an iced coffee phase and then I'm in. I'm in like a hot drink, fas hot drink. Yeah. My drink used to be like a dirty chai latte. Okay, now it's like a vanilla oat milk latte. I went through a strong coal brew phase. I'm always just a caffeine to the veins. 00:13:32 Speaker 2: That's what's happening, right, here. 00:13:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like that that really gives me anxiety. Yeah, oldbrew will get me jittery, which I need to not be. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the problem with my entire life is just I'm consuming a drug that is not good for my mental illness, but. 00:13:48 Speaker 3: Uh, but good for your productivity. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not good for that. If I laid out my week for you, you would be like, oh, caffeine's doing nothing. 00:13:58 Speaker 3: For Maybe your new drink should be no more drinks. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, becoming parched or you know, water just straight water. Yeah, I feel like I'm pretty hydrated. Okay, I pride myself on my hydration. When I'm actually like in a writer's room or whatever, my hydration is near toxic levels. I'm drinking so much water I could die. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Why is that? 00:14:21 Speaker 2: Because it's just there. It's like, yeah, I'm going to be drinking lacroix after it is. But for some reason, that's a good question. It's actually in my house. It's even more here. 00:14:31 Speaker 3: It's not a water free home. 00:14:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, actually this is the opposite of a water free home. 00:14:40 Speaker 3: There's a lot of plants around here. 00:14:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot of plants, really lovely We won't get into it now because I've talked about it NonStop. But the house did flood for months and months, so the water. 00:14:51 Speaker 3: Situation should mention that once or three times. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: There's a lot of water going on. But maybe my new drink is drinking more water at home. So your new drink is getting into your mail situation. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, paying bills? 00:15:05 Speaker 2: Are you in an apartment or house apartment? So it's like piling up in a little metal box. 00:15:09 Speaker 3: A little metal box. 00:15:10 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you're frustrating your post person. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: I am actually got a note from them because I was out of town for a while and I always feel bad asking friends to like do things like check my mail right while I'm away, and so it just builds up. And I had a letter, a little note that was quite angry. Actually I should take a picture, but it was just like please check your mail. 00:15:32 Speaker 2: And it was from the postal service, I. 00:15:34 Speaker 3: Would assume, so I don't know who else it would be from. 00:15:36 Speaker 2: Was it on like a stationary or was it post it? 00:15:38 Speaker 3: I think it's like a post it note. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: Interesting, I mean, I guess the postal person has that authority. Yeah, you're where else is the mail going to go? 00:15:47 Speaker 3: I think it's fair. It's just a problem for them if I don't. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: Now you're you don't like asking a friend to do anything for you? 00:15:53 Speaker 3: Not anything when it comes to like chore type things. I just feel really guilty for some reason. I don't know what that is. I just like watering plants. I'd rather have plans die than ask a friend to come water them, which is so stupid because I have friends who would. Huh, it's bad. It's bad. There's your friends want to help you, they do. I don't know what that. What do you think that says about me that I don't want to ask for helping them? 00:16:15 Speaker 2: I think that What does that say about you? It's a it's Is it a lack of self worth? 00:16:21 Speaker 3: Huh? 00:16:22 Speaker 2: You feel like you're not your friends don't care enough? Is that what's happening? Do you feel like you're a burden on your friends? 00:16:30 Speaker 3: Why are you being mean? Because your friends have. 00:16:33 Speaker 2: Been calling Nick? Is draining draining us emotionally? 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Social? Help me move? I don't ask friends to drive men the airport. Wow, I don't ask. I mean airport as that's me. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: You have to have a spouse to drive. 00:16:49 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even ask yeah, I mean my wif asks it's my sorry, my wife, your wife. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't ask you what. 00:16:57 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie my boyfriend. 00:17:00 Speaker 2: Wow, you're coming out. Wow this is a podcast exclusive. 00:17:03 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:17:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all falling apart for you. 00:17:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's a software thing. 00:17:11 Speaker 2: Okay, So well I'm here to tell you don't ask anyone for any help. 00:17:16 Speaker 3: Cookay, you're confirming them. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: I'm confirming the lack of worth, absolute lack of got it. I will say truly. Asking for right to the airport is a huge, huge ask. 00:17:28 Speaker 3: Well, this is Burbank. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: Now that's a little fun trip. 00:17:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's easy, breezing. There's a Pan Express right there too. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: There is a Pan Express. There's also a is it Randy's Donuts? Oh yeah, Burbank has a lot of things happening, and it's easy. You feel like you're doing it, feels like a favor. But it's like, oh, it's a fifteen minute drive, right. I do feel like LA podcasts are going to ruin the Burbank airport. We're all talking about how great it is all the time. 00:17:53 Speaker 3: But it's more expensive. 00:17:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so much more expensive wink, I mean more I you know, I'm in huge debt because I go out of the Burbank Airport. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: That's why my bills are unpaid. 00:18:10 Speaker 2: Right, and I get sick every time I go through. There are all those dogs at the entrance snapping at you. So there are some downfalls in your Burbank airport. I mean, look, Burbank Airport doing favors and conveniencing people. There's something I'd like to talk to you about. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: Okay, what is that. 00:18:26 Speaker 2: I was looking forward to having you on the podcast. I thought we'll have a nice time. Nickel comes to the backyard, we'll chat, maybe I'll try to help him with some sort of with his self esteem, and then we'll move on. So I was a little surprised when you showed up holding a bag. The podcast is called I said, no gifts, and so I'm a little I don't know, I'm confused. This bag, for all I can tell, is a gift for me. 00:18:57 Speaker 3: That's right, it is a gift for you. Bridge Interesting. You've invited me into your home, or at least outside of it. 00:19:03 Speaker 2: You will never never enter my home, not after what's happening right now. 00:19:09 Speaker 3: You mean me giving you a present. 00:19:11 Speaker 2: The podcast has one rule. 00:19:14 Speaker 3: No gifts, no gifts, but it is my love language. 00:19:16 Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't know what what am I supposed to do with your love language? When it breaks a word. 00:19:22 Speaker 3: Accept it, let me love you? 00:19:26 Speaker 1: Well? 00:19:26 Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast? 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's a it's actually a really special present. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well then in that case, I'm I'm willing to make an exception. Yeah, let's get into it here. 00:19:49 Speaker 3: I'm going to hand you the bag. It's in a. 00:19:51 Speaker 2: Beautiful wrap, kind of a brown paper bag, which we love, A recycled bag from a local growth, not a national chain. 00:20:00 Speaker 3: It's a chain. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: It's a chain, but people like this chain. Okay, I'm reaching in and grabbing something. Oh, I have actually no idea. 00:20:11 Speaker 3: What this is. 00:20:12 Speaker 2: It says spoonfuls and then a word that says maquas, ma muquas and from the cake stop. Is that right? 00:20:21 Speaker 3: It's a gift from India, interesting, from my motherland? Is it what it is? It looks like trail mix kind of. It is a an all natural mouth freshener. Really, you take like a little handful of palm, pop it in your mouth after a meal. It's like a palate cleanser. It's like mint and seeds and nuts. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. 00:20:45 Speaker 3: It's quite refreshing. 00:20:46 Speaker 2: I will say, like at Indian restaurants they often have like little are they called? They're like they kind of look like miniature good and good? What is that candy called good and plenty? They're like little but they're like licorice flavor. Oh, but the like often at Indian restaurants, I'll see. 00:21:03 Speaker 3: Are you talking about like the sugar coated seeds? Yes, yeah, similar, okay, yeah those are bread fresh. 00:21:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love them. 00:21:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, this one doesn't have any added sugar. I don't think. 00:21:13 Speaker 2: Should we try it here? 00:21:14 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I went to India this past winter visit family. Yeah, sure, a little bit of my palm. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: How much do you take that month? But yeah, Onalise, do you want some? 00:21:25 Speaker 3: This one is a little nut heavy, I like. 00:21:27 Speaker 2: I mean, right, we know, no, we don't. Analise is throwing them all over the backyard, inviting birds. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: All right, all right, it's in our palms and all you gotta do is just. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: Throw it in there. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: M hm. 00:21:41 Speaker 2: This is wonderful. 00:21:42 Speaker 3: You like it? Of course? It's lovely, right, what do you think, Analis? This is a whole new experience. It's a little floral. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: It's a little minty. There's nut, I mean, the the layers of flavor that happen. I wonder, what do you have any idea what's happening in here? It's like seeds almonds. 00:22:00 Speaker 3: There's no ingredient list on it. Certainly mint, mint almonds. I think maybe cashew, some kind of like dried floral substance. 00:22:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lovely. 00:22:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard you had bad breath. 00:22:15 Speaker 2: So that's the one thing people know about me. Yeah, all of my guests they go away from this podcasting. The man's breath is horrendous. 00:22:22 Speaker 3: That's why I moved it from inside to outside. 00:22:24 Speaker 2: All right, yes, exactly, we had to get some air. You went to India over the. 00:22:29 Speaker 3: Over the over the winter holidays. 00:22:31 Speaker 2: How long were you there for? 00:22:32 Speaker 3: Like two ish weeks? 00:22:33 Speaker 1: Two? 00:22:33 Speaker 3: And hal? 00:22:33 Speaker 2: Is this your first time? 00:22:34 Speaker 3: No, I used to go a lot when I was a kid, but I hadn't been back in about ten years. 00:22:38 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 00:22:39 Speaker 3: And my boyfriend hadn't been back in like eighteen years. He's also Indian, okay, and so it was a bit of a homecoming for both. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: It was probably kind of like a first time experiencing it as an adult. 00:22:49 Speaker 3: Ten years ago. I was still an adult. 00:22:51 Speaker 2: I guess ten years ago you were about forty eight. Uh huh so I guess yeah technically. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: But as like a fully it was it's the first time I've been since been out. Oh so that was like a new experience definitely, and it was it was really lovely. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: Where did you visit in India? 00:23:08 Speaker 3: We started in Goa, which is a beach town in South India, a lot of Portuguese influence from colonial days. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: Colonial days. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: They're not that far behind us, you know, they certainly are. They actually are ahead of us as well. Then we went to Jaipur, okay, and then for a wedding, which was crazy, and then a visiting family Indrat, which is where his mom is from and where both my parents are from. And we're not related. Okay, well I just want to put that out there. 00:23:41 Speaker 2: There's no telling. You never know, you never quite know. Isn't that true? 00:23:45 Speaker 3: I don't think it's true. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe that's not true. Whose wedding wasn't. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: Our good friend's sister? 00:23:52 Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, Yeah, that was a nice time. 00:23:55 Speaker 3: It was lovely. 00:23:56 Speaker 2: Indian weddings are a big deal. 00:23:57 Speaker 3: They are. I mean they can be. I mean some Indian weddings are low key affairs. I will say, yeah, I think the representation of weddings here is like every wedding. No, I mean, people who are not insanely wealthy don't throw insanely crazy. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: Weddings, right, just like in America? Right. Not everyone's having a huge affair. No exactly, but yeah, I mean from my I have I've never been to one, but like you'll see on Instagram, somebody's in an Indian wedding. I'm like, somebody invite me. This sounds this actually looks like a good time. I'll invite invite me to the wedding. Him invite me and wants to bring you one. 00:24:36 Speaker 3: Okay, then you know. 00:24:38 Speaker 2: Are you thinking about getting married anytime soon? 00:24:40 Speaker 3: No? 00:24:41 Speaker 2: No? Do you want to get married? 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Maybe? 00:24:43 Speaker 2: Interesting? How far down the road do you think? 00:24:47 Speaker 3: A few years? Few years? 00:24:48 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:24:48 Speaker 3: Are you married? 00:24:49 Speaker 2: I'm not married. I have no interest. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: How long are even with your eight years person? 00:24:53 Speaker 1: Wow? 00:24:54 Speaker 2: Years? 00:24:55 Speaker 3: So do you want to get married? No? I haven't. 00:24:57 Speaker 2: I just don't. There's nothing there for. 00:25:00 Speaker 3: Me, does he he? 00:25:02 Speaker 2: I think at one point Wood was excited about the idea of getting married but I think we're both kind of on the same page now of like we don't need that. I mean, I understand why other people like to do it and that kind of thing. I don't want to throw any shame on that, but for us, it's just like, I don't know, I grew up in a very marriage dominated culture, which is Mormonism, so that is part of it. I think. Then I don't like, I don't really like a party in general of any kind, certainly not a party person. And I don't like filling out paperwork. So what else is there for me in a wedding food? 00:25:42 Speaker 1: Food? 00:25:42 Speaker 3: And you don't really even get to enjoy your own wedding food as much. 00:25:45 Speaker 2: That's whenever I'm at someone's wedding, I'm just like, this poor person is paying so much money to not experience any of this. 00:25:53 Speaker 3: It's the money part for me. I'm like, I raither use that money for anything. 00:25:57 Speaker 2: Literally, right, redecorate your home, go on the most extravagant vacation of all time. Yeah. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: But then the other part of me is like the sappy romantic that wants the whole thing right now. 00:26:09 Speaker 2: I go back and forth, how long have you been with your wife? 00:26:13 Speaker 3: A little over two years, almost two and a half. 00:26:15 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got a while before I were the idea of really married. 00:26:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a bit older, so it's a more presence on his mind. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: Oh okay, sure, sure, Well hi babe, So what did you do while you were in India? How long were you there? 00:26:29 Speaker 3: Like two weeks? 00:26:29 Speaker 2: Two weeks? What were some highlights for you? 00:26:32 Speaker 3: I mean the best part for your visiting family. I got to see a lot of my cousin's kids, who, at last I saw him, were very little and tiny and fully teenagers with personalities and opinions and talents, and oh that's lovely. 00:26:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:26:48 Speaker 3: And I got to see my two remaining grandparents, oh, which was really lovely. Definitely the highlights and the food. The food, I mean, I sound like a white girl. Food was so good. That people are so spiritual, obviously the nicest people you've ever met, my god, But like my stomach just was so upset. But gosh, I'd like to go back. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Everywhere has good food to say. The food was so great. It's like, of course that's true. 00:27:18 Speaker 3: I mean that true. 00:27:19 Speaker 2: What where is food not good? 00:27:21 Speaker 3: Well? 00:27:21 Speaker 2: Actually we probably shouldn't. I feel like We're gonna make somebody mad if we say, like the food in Arizona, for example. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: But well that's just false. Arizona food is great because it's a lot of Mexican. 00:27:32 Speaker 2: Food, right exactly. Yeah, I really feel like Ireland. Ireland's got to have something on the menu. I'm sure they have. I mean the potatoes, potatoes. I feel like they've got good cheese there. I imagine, like the dairy element is good in Ireland, the whole, the whole of the UK does. I guess it's kind of famously bad. 00:27:54 Speaker 3: Food or like it's just not as exciting, not as exciting as it's not as layered. But like if you which is wild considering the lengths they went to get spices from. 00:28:04 Speaker 2: Us, right, they kind of conquered the entire world and took everything but the food, which is an interesting It's not how I would have done, but you know, to each his own, and the British Empire kind of dropped the ball with food. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: Although I will say like Indian food in the UK is fucking ope, it's fantastic. I mean chicken ticka massala was invented there. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, What a bizarre turn of events. Because that's kind of as far like, it's one of the most famous Indian foods here in the United. 00:28:36 Speaker 3: States at least. 00:28:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder is it in other countries? Do they think? 00:28:40 Speaker 3: I think chicken ticka massala is now a global enough. 00:28:43 Speaker 2: You can you get it in India? 00:28:45 Speaker 3: Yeah? Interesting? 00:28:46 Speaker 2: But yeah, the closest I've had to I think great Indian food was in England. 00:28:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:28:51 Speaker 2: I had Indian breakfast there. Oh, fantastic breakfast is great, phenomenal. Okay, so you're eating, you're seeing family. 00:28:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, friends, the wedding was lovely. 00:29:01 Speaker 2: You went to the beach, went to the beach. Are you a big beach person. 00:29:04 Speaker 3: I'm not a huge beach person. I enjoyed in theory a lot in theory, right, mildly. In real life. What are you doing at the beach, I'm usually just sitting. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: You're reading. 00:29:16 Speaker 3: I'm usually reading or listening to an audiobook or music. 00:29:20 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: Worried about a sunburn, not so much. You. I'll put on some sunscreen. I got melanin. 00:29:25 Speaker 2: I'm constantly panting. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're at risk. 00:29:28 Speaker 2: I mean it's completely cloudy and recovered by another thing, and I still could get sunburned right now, Yeah, I'm going to go inside and just be burnt to death. But that is one thing. Even if I'm covered in sunscreen at the beach, still in the back of my mind, am I getting skin cancer? 00:29:44 Speaker 3: It's real? It's real. Plus I guess it's it's like a lot of people, usually. 00:29:50 Speaker 2: A lot of people. Do you like getting in the water, like my up to my knees, up to your knees, okay, yeah, beyond that, I start getting scared right of dying. I feel like I can get maybe chest level okay, impressive once we're over the shoulders at the beach, you're scared of dying. I'm scared of getting caught up in some sort of whirlpool or the undertoe. 00:30:12 Speaker 3: And then of course the creatures. Right, that's a different that's a whole station thing happening. Yeah. 00:30:19 Speaker 2: I think I stepped on a fish in the ocean once and had a panic attack. 00:30:24 Speaker 3: On a fish that's wild. Maybe it was an eel you stepped on it, or like you kicked it. 00:30:29 Speaker 2: I feel like I was starved on it. 00:30:30 Speaker 3: The floor under was like the seafloor. 00:30:33 Speaker 2: Well, it was sitting in a chair. Oh god, I don't know. I just remember stepping on something that was slimy and uh muscular or whatever, muscular to the point that it was moving that it was clearly a living being. 00:30:48 Speaker 3: Could have been seaweed, muscular seaweed. It could have been a clump of seaweed. 00:30:52 Speaker 2: That wanted to escape from underneath my feet. 00:30:55 Speaker 3: There's research that shows that plants scream. Wait, is that true? Yes? It just it just got confirmed. 00:31:01 Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't know if you're a kidding or not. 00:31:03 Speaker 3: No, No, I mean, I hope I'm not spreading misinformation. But I'm pretty sure this is a real scientific style that just got some attention in the news. They scream like when cut, they scream when they're thirsty. Oh interesting, and I think they scream when they're under threat. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: But like at a frequency none of us can hear correct, can dogs hear it? 00:31:25 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:31:27 Speaker 2: Interesting, I need to look into this. You could be really spreading something here that's absolutely false. 00:31:32 Speaker 3: I mean, even if this is completely false. 00:31:35 Speaker 2: Is reaching for the mic. 00:31:37 Speaker 3: It's true. It's true, Thank you, Analise. It's true. Now, I've never I've never been more terrified to kill. 00:31:42 Speaker 2: We're surrounded by plants right now that could all be screaming plants. Welcome to the podcast. Wow, that's fascinating. I wonder where did that idea come from to even begin researching that shrooms? 00:31:56 Speaker 3: Probably that's really true. 00:31:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody was ebbs the tripping out of their mind, heard. 00:32:01 Speaker 3: A plant uh huh, and thought I gotta go to the lab. 00:32:05 Speaker 2: Wow, I wonder what frequency that is? I want to get a plant whistle huh. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: I've seen those things where you like put like electrodes on a plant and I'll transform the electrical current from the plant into music. What, yeah? 00:32:20 Speaker 2: Is that us like to record? Like? Do bands use that? Do musical artists use that? 00:32:24 Speaker 3: I know who uses it? I'm sure the guy on TikTok that I saw post about it is using it. But beyond that practical muse, I'm not sure. 00:32:34 Speaker 2: Interesting people are finding ways to mistreat plants all over the planet. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: Why is it mistreating? We're just giving them a microphone, giving them a voice. 00:32:42 Speaker 2: I feel like it's it's like a stage mom to a plant. The plant didn't ask to be on stage. Suddenly it's all over TikTok and it didn't say it wanted to be on TikTok. 00:32:52 Speaker 3: That's true. It didn't sign a release. 00:32:53 Speaker 2: Did not sign a release? Are you on are do you post to TikTok? 00:32:57 Speaker 3: No? I just watch? Okay, Yeah, I don't. 00:32:59 Speaker 2: Know that I've ever met somebody that actively posts to TikTok Like. 00:33:03 Speaker 3: We might be a little bit old for that. 00:33:06 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's probably true. I'm seventy five, like no one in my and I know a lot of performers and this sort of thing. Maybe that's because the performers I know are already doing it professionally. 00:33:17 Speaker 3: Are you saying TikTok is not a professional endeavor? Are you saying TikTokers and creators? I'm not. 00:33:24 Speaker 2: Do not put me in this place. 00:33:25 Speaker 3: The creator economy is. I love the backbone of our imagination culture people. 00:33:30 Speaker 2: I am in full support of TikTokers and whatever content they want to create. I support them. Do you know what happened to me recently? I was looking through the Instagram recommended to you or whatever. I don't know if I've even I may have talked about this on the podcast already, and if I did, I apologize to the listener. There was some disgusting recipe happening okay, but like in one of the little things that I was like, what's happening there? I click on it and it was this woman that was just literally like putting ten eggs in a bowl and then melting chocolate into it, oh, stirring it all up in a blender, and then baking it. It's just like, this is what's happening. And now everything is suggested to me is a disgusting recipe and I can't stop looking at disgusting recipe. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: Oh, I got you. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: I love it now. It's crazy. 00:34:13 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that's how people get indoctrinated. 00:34:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of my red pill moment. 00:34:20 Speaker 3: It is, it really is. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: I mean, the algorithm finds some little tick into your personality and then these disgusting recipes. These people obviously are doing something wild, and they're probably doing other wild things probably, and I'm going to slowly head down that path. 00:34:37 Speaker 3: But soon you're going to be doing it as well. 00:34:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I will be putting a lot of eggs and bowls. And then I'm telling you most of these recipes involved just like eggs and ingredient. 00:34:48 Speaker 3: It's so bizarre, that's so strange. And these are all from different people or is it people? 00:34:54 Speaker 2: It's like an entire it's like a genre. I would say more than a genre. 00:34:59 Speaker 3: It's a cold it's a culture of people culture. 00:35:02 Speaker 2: Wow, it's I don't I guess it's people who are looking for like protein heavy. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: Foods, interesting egg people. 00:35:10 Speaker 2: But it's disgusting people of eggs, people of eggs. Are you what's getting recommended to you? 00:35:17 Speaker 3: Oh, it's such a weird mix. 00:35:20 Speaker 2: I think it is for everybody. 00:35:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's such a weird mix. It is the latest ai news mixed with hot shirtless dudes dancing, mixed with like beautiful singers who are like composing just the most incredible original ballads and just watching them belt. It really is is a very strange. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem that strange. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: And then there's a handful of like OnlyFans people that have tiktoks okay and I don't have only fans, but I do follow them on TikTok and I feel like it's close. 00:35:55 Speaker 2: What's the pipeline there is a TikTok to only fans or only fans to TikTok. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: I think it's talk to only fans. I think they used the market there right here, I am come pay for me. Well, I definitely went and like look them up on olyfans right out of my budget? 00:36:08 Speaker 2: Right? 00:36:08 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:36:09 Speaker 2: AI News, Yeah are you into AI all of this? 00:36:13 Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by it. I use chat GPT. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: What do you use it for? 00:36:17 Speaker 3: I use it to help me write interesting how so? And I don't really mean any creative sense. I mean it more of like I write a lot of email. We all write a lot of emails, right, and like sometimes I don't want to actually write the email, right. And I have found that if I just say like, hey, I need to tell this person this, and these are the bullet points, please make this sound professional and kind, it'll draft a thing. 00:36:41 Speaker 2: Somebody was just telling me about this. They broke was on this podcast that they broke up with their therapists this way. Yeah, they said, I need to break up with them write the email. 00:36:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. I considered when I when I was looking at a six dollars unpaid collections bill, I was like, am I going to dispute this? And if I do, I'll use chat GPT to do it. But that was just so much work and I just paid it. 00:37:02 Speaker 2: Wow, But that's great, my lawyer chat GPT that's not a bad idea to defend yourself. 00:37:08 Speaker 3: I'll also use it as like a thesaurus for phrases, so like, Okay, I have a sentence that I've written. It's clunky, it gets the message across, but it's just it's not there. And I'll be like, hey, here's a sentence I wrote, can you give me five halts interest? And then like no one result is perfect, but little bits and pieces, right, So it's not like it's replacing shit yet, at least in the way I'm using it, but it's definitely helping. 00:37:35 Speaker 2: It's just streaminglining what you actually want to do. 00:37:38 Speaker 3: I also use it for like feedback on a thing I wrote. I wrote a thing okay, and I pasted it in chat GPT and said, act as if you are this type of person, please provide a critical analysis of what I just wrote. And it gave me like a really great set of notes both positive and negative. 00:37:55 Speaker 2: Wow, I know that's amazing. Yeah, I need to see I need to find my use for it. I feel like all of mine has just been like absolutely worthless. Just toying with it. 00:38:06 Speaker 3: There's a lot you could do. It's pretty I mean, what's like what's like a mundane ish writing based task that you have to do on a regular. 00:38:13 Speaker 2: Basis send emails. But I mean most my emails are four to five letters long with no punctuation on a These can probably attest to very lazily written. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: And that's white privilege. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: That's uh, that's just I guess that is white. Let's be honest. I'm sorry. 00:38:34 Speaker 4: I know that I should not be weighing in here, but you need to start putting titles in your like, there need to be subjects. 00:38:41 Speaker 3: No subject. 00:38:44 Speaker 2: You don't subject This is ridiculous. Subject lines have got to go away. No any no one uses you. 00:38:50 Speaker 3: Never find anything, Bridger, I'm constant. 00:38:52 Speaker 4: I have to like respond to your emails to myself with keywords so I can find them later. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: You get that's late that you are not getting paid for You. 00:39:01 Speaker 2: Both use subject lines. I don't know anyone that uses a subject line? 00:39:05 Speaker 3: Do you know anyone? 00:39:08 Speaker 2: The only people who use subject lines are banks, uber eats, and retailers who are trying to get me into a sale. I don't know anyone else that uses a subject line. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: So when you when you're in a writer's room and an email is sent, no subject line, ever never is that true? Yeah, one hundred percent true. 00:39:28 Speaker 2: Interesting. 00:39:29 Speaker 3: How much of how much of the back and forth in a room is over email? 00:39:33 Speaker 2: There's a decent amount. I mean, I guess it depends on the job. But I really know, I'm really wondering, like production emails for shows or whatever, and those are getting sent out, those will have sure subject lines. I mean among the writers interpersonally, no subject Huh. It's almost like so fascinating. 00:39:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's interesting that both of you have come at me almost attacked. Yeah, we just met. But I mean I feel like I support you. 00:39:59 Speaker 2: But my thing is subject line feels like it is almost more important than the email itself. I would I think I would spin out thinking of what should the subject line be? 00:40:07 Speaker 3: Subject line is just what it's about. 00:40:09 Speaker 2: But what it's about is right there in the email. 00:40:11 Speaker 3: I feel like we could talk ourselves into a circle about this. 00:40:13 Speaker 2: Wow, this is interesting. 00:40:15 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you're right because if you don't have a subject line, it just shows you the preview text of the email immediately. 00:40:21 Speaker 2: I have not used a subject line probably in fifteen years. 00:40:26 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you do the emails for this podcast on at least because I would have probably said no if I got a no subject line invitation, Hey do you want to come to this guy's backyard. 00:40:38 Speaker 2: But what we're talking about with an alas emailing you, that's professional, that's I'm talking about a professional context here. I guess I'm not a professional person. I'm not a serious saying. 00:40:50 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's unprofessional. I find I mean, I find it interesting. I'm weirdly nerd out about this kind of thing, because, like, we spend so much time emailing, texting, right, dming all that crap, and the way people do it differently is so interesting to me. 00:41:03 Speaker 2: This is what I'll say. If I email you and I'm using periods and I'm capitalizing the beginning of a sentence, that's because I'm not comfortable with you, or I'm not like I don't feel that familiar with Sure. Sure, when it feels like the worst written email of all time, no period at the end, it's all lowercase, that's because I you're in my life. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a love language yes type thing. 00:41:28 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a love language thing, with the exception of if I think that the person has bad grammar, I will go out of my way to use all of the proper grammar, because I'm like, this person needs needs an example in their life. 00:41:42 Speaker 3: You know, I was really like on your side until you decided to be a grammar queen. It may be so leis fair. No subject lines and you care about grammar. The subject line has got to do. I either care about it all or none of it. There's no middle ground. No, does not exist anymore. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: It is absolutely a spectrum and grammar and subject lines are a spectrum. 00:42:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the woke agenda. This is this is not. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: Get woke, go bro. Yeah, that's that's what this podcast is all about. Hard right wing podcast. Interesting. I wonder what the I bet listeners are going to freak out about this. They're going to be people come down hard on this sort of thing. 00:42:24 Speaker 3: And I'm do you use your calendar? 00:42:27 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:42:28 Speaker 3: Do you send the calendar invites to people? No? Interesting? What are you sending calendar invites for meetings? Calls? 00:42:36 Speaker 2: Okay? So events those sort of things on lease will send for me? Oh right, okay, but like do you do it for dinners? That sort of thing? 00:42:44 Speaker 3: Not like not personal like friends? Okay, now with friends okay, work wise, Okay, I think I work with a lot of people who are disorganized. Okay, no collaborators that might be listening, right, there's a lot of just like disorganization, and I sometimes I think I have to like put it on their calendar so they don't forget it. 00:43:07 Speaker 2: So this is sort of like me with grammar, where I'm like, this person's grammar's bad. I need them to just have a little guiding light. 00:43:16 Speaker 3: It's already on my calendar. Adding their name is not a big deal. 00:43:19 Speaker 2: I now that we're talking about this, I will say that I think just in general, getting in touch with me or being in touch with me for everyone in my life is an absolute nightmare. 00:43:31 Speaker 3: Huh. 00:43:32 Speaker 2: My phone is always on do not Disturb, so it almost always goes to. 00:43:35 Speaker 3: Voice that that's legendary status. 00:43:37 Speaker 2: It feels great. 00:43:38 Speaker 3: It feels so good. I went the whole day when I'm when I really don't want to bother to turn on. But the other day I went a full day from morning to night with it on, doing undisturbed, and I felt like a god, You're truly a king. Yeah, you're amazing. I felt so good. 00:43:52 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Right, It's like no one can bother you. You are just that you get to make all of the literally the calls. It's great. You hop on there, the texts have come in, You're like, now I get to answer them. I'm not getting bothered over and over and over. I feel like it almost feels like a landline. I feel like this is probably as close to a landline as we're. 00:44:11 Speaker 3: Going to get them. That's nice. 00:44:12 Speaker 2: It's like you can only be bothered in certain scenarios. 00:44:15 Speaker 3: I'm kind of miss having a landline. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's been a long time since I had a landline. Yeah, maybe I'll get one. The cable company is always trying to get me to get a landline. 00:44:25 Speaker 3: Which is strange. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: Just stop doing it right now, people have it, people have it? Who offices and offices? 00:44:34 Speaker 3: Parents, offices and parents. That's a big portion of the population. That's true, offices and parents, but that actually might be the majority of the human population. Offices in parents, offices are people too? Yeah, corporations. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: That's thank you, Mett Romney. 00:44:50 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:44:52 Speaker 2: Interesting, Well we've I mean, this has become a really contentious podcast all because of my failings as a person. I I agree, and we barely talked. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: About the macass. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: What else should we talk about with this, Is there anything else to say? 00:45:09 Speaker 3: It's delicious, It's delicious. People should try it. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: It's a maquas. Does that mean anything? 00:45:14 Speaker 3: Do you know? 00:45:15 Speaker 1: Yes? 00:45:16 Speaker 2: Or do I just mean like literally what this is? 00:45:18 Speaker 3: You know I should know that and I don't. Okay, but I'm willing to admit my ignorance. 00:45:23 Speaker 2: And was this literally purchased in India? 00:45:25 Speaker 3: There was a gift from family to me. 00:45:26 Speaker 2: That is incredible to you? Oh yeah, and they've got their gmail right here. Interesting? Yeah, well, I'm so happy to have that. I wonder how long it lasts, like expiration wise. 00:45:35 Speaker 3: I think a while. Okay, yeah, I think a while. Very interesting. I think nuts really, seeds don't go bad? Do they do? Nuts go bad? 00:45:45 Speaker 2: Do they scream? There are a lot of questions about nuts and seeds, But we bring up these questions of the scientific community, research them, right. I can't do everything? 00:45:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, all we can do is feed, wonder and dream. I regret saying that sentence. I'm really happy you spoke over me there. 00:46:08 Speaker 2: Do you want to play a game? 00:46:09 Speaker 3: Yes? I mean you have no choice, podcast, I do have a choice, Like I walk away right now. I don't tell me what. 00:46:15 Speaker 2: You're absolutely trapped. I will you walk away now, I will burn you down. You will be destroyed. 00:46:21 Speaker 3: So violent. Okay, what's the game, Jesus Christ. 00:46:25 Speaker 2: The game is called Gift Master. I recently realized this is the game. We haven't played in a long time, and I've been playing another game probably for the last fifty episodes. I need a number between one and ten from you four four, Okay. I have to do some light calculating. 00:46:41 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:46:42 Speaker 2: So while I do this, I'm getting the game pieces. You can recommend something, promote something, Just talk to the listener in any way you want, Okay, I'll be right back. 00:46:51 Speaker 3: Last night I watched the pilot to Beef on Netflix. It's incredible. There's a really great Indian rest in La called Pisia Palace. It's Indian Italian food. 00:47:05 Speaker 2: Pisia Palace is so good and so hard to get into. 00:47:08 Speaker 3: It is it is it is. 00:47:09 Speaker 2: I not to brag. Went there before it became a phenomenon and we just walked in. No longer a possibility. No, but anyone that comes to La should go there. 00:47:19 Speaker 3: Indian Italian is like a marriage that I'm surprised has not. It's perfect. Yeah, it's perfect. 00:47:25 Speaker 2: And also, fusion is not an easy thing to do often bad. Yeah, it's a and it's such a fun place to be and beef. I watched the pilot recently and really liked it. I will say the last song they play in the episode, I was confused, confused. It's like, what is that song? The reason is that what it's called? 00:47:45 Speaker 3: I think so hubis tancre horrible piece of music. Oh wow, I was. I felt a nice rush of nostalgia. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I felt what's the opposite of nostalgia? 00:47:55 Speaker 3: Hate? We need a word for sorrow? 00:48:00 Speaker 2: Yes, it's trauma. 00:48:01 Speaker 3: Trauma is trauma the opposite of nostalgia. I guess if it's something that triggers a feeling from your past. Yeah, if it's positive, it's nostalgia. If it's negative, it's trauma. Interesting. 00:48:10 Speaker 2: Interesting, I think we did just discover something. 00:48:13 Speaker 3: But the show was. 00:48:14 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to keep watching good. 00:48:16 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: Okay, this is how we're gonna play the game. And I may have already screwed up because I'm not good with the doc anymore. Okay, here we go. I'm gonna name three gifts, three things you can give away, and then I'm gonna name three celebrities. You're gonna tell me which gift you'll give to which celebrity? Great and why that makes sense? Right? Okay? The gifts you're giving today are Number one, an iPod photo. That's the iPod from probably two thousand and four. It's kind of when it first had a color screen and. 00:48:45 Speaker 3: It was called iPod Photo. 00:48:47 Speaker 2: Are you sure you're talking to a former Apple store employee? Oh? 00:48:51 Speaker 3: Wow, I always wanted to be one of those. 00:48:53 Speaker 2: Well, there's still time, there's always your second chapter. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: That's true. 00:48:58 Speaker 2: The iPod Photo, I think was the second version of the iPod. Okay, so it's a little you know, it's kind of an artifact at this point. Second is, uh, this is a from a listener named Hannah. Uh, the ability to wow a crowd. So you'll be giving this person kind of the skill to wow a crowd. 00:49:15 Speaker 3: Wow. That's a good one. 00:49:17 Speaker 2: And number three is one of your kidneys, which is a huge gift. Oh my god, you'll be giving them to these people. 00:49:23 Speaker 3: Who are they? 00:49:24 Speaker 2: Daniel day Lewis, Okay, great actor, Daniel day Lewis. Has he ever had fun? It's hard to say. Number two Lana del Rey. Number three Lester Holt oh news anchor. Yes, yes, we love Lester. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: What do you think I'm gonna give Lester the ability to wow crowd because of this group. I'm not saying he can't, but like of the group, Daniel d Lewis and lnnaz ol Ray have that kind of down that's true, you know, very true, and so just by process of elimination, right to give that to Leicester? Okay, very nice. I'm gonna give the eye pod photo to Daniel Day Lewis because I think he could use a little more joy in his life, and I think we can load it with some pretty. 00:50:07 Speaker 2: Pictures, no music, strictly photos. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: You said iPod photo, right. 00:50:13 Speaker 2: Well, the photo thing was kind of a weird addition to It's like why there is a very small screen to look at photos looking back? Didn't make sense as a product. But Daniel Day might enjoy it. 00:50:26 Speaker 3: I think he would. I think he'd be confused and then he'd learn about it, and I'd want to watch that whole process, Okay, I think. And then I guess my kidney going to Lana del Ray, which, honestly, if she writes a song about it, or actually please an album, give me an album and we're set. Oh, I would love to listen to that album. 00:50:46 Speaker 2: Can we talk about Lana del Rey for a moment? Sure, I would love to understand. I feel like every other person on the planet now understands Lana del Rey, understands what. They love it, They're into it. Her spell is over them. I don't know, it doesn't hasn't clicked for me, and I feel like it should click. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: Well, what is it like? 00:51:11 Speaker 2: What about Lana is for you? 00:51:13 Speaker 3: She's able to tap into an emotional state that I can only describe as existential, gay and hopeless. 00:51:25 Speaker 2: And what are you listening to her while you're driving? Not usually around the house? 00:51:29 Speaker 3: Yeah? I listened during the shower okay? 00:51:32 Speaker 2: Oh interesting? 00:51:34 Speaker 3: Or around the house when I'm feeling moody okay? So how often are you feeling moody? Often very emotional person. 00:51:44 Speaker 2: Now the shower thing makes sense to me. Maybe that's where I need to get Lana going. You may not just you just may not be the It feels like she's for everybody. 00:51:52 Speaker 3: Would you describe yourself as hopeless? Hopeless? Sure? 00:51:57 Speaker 2: Gay? 00:51:57 Speaker 4: Gay? 00:51:58 Speaker 2: That's obviously in the air, and by the end of this podcast, I might be comfortable enough. 00:52:02 Speaker 3: To come on. That was the third word that I just. 00:52:04 Speaker 2: Said, Moody, that's the hopeless existential? 00:52:09 Speaker 3: Is that what I said? Okay, yeah, Jesus Christ, yeah. 00:52:13 Speaker 2: I would say all of those things. I'm constantly wondering, what is my purpose? What is the world, what is the universe? What is reality? 00:52:20 Speaker 3: I think I think the ingredients are there for you to be into Lana. 00:52:24 Speaker 2: I think it's maybe it's because it's all slow. 00:52:27 Speaker 3: You're not into the slow. 00:52:29 Speaker 2: I like slow music, but I need, come on, put one fun song on the album. 00:52:35 Speaker 3: Well why don't you put her on like a playlist mixed with fast songs and that way you're getting all right. I'm just trying to help. 00:52:45 Speaker 2: Immediately, I apologize to you and Lanna. I'm going to try. I'm going to try for Lana's sake and for mine, because she obviously I mean. The problem now is she has an enormous catalog. Seems like she has a new album every six months. 00:53:01 Speaker 3: I don't actually know. I listened to more of her, like old stuff, older stuff like ten years ago. 00:53:07 Speaker 2: Ribes she's been around for quite a while now. Shower, though, that's the shower is my place for music. I'm uncertain about to or like, I need to give this a try, because you know it can just be on in the background. Right, Okay, Lona, I'm coming for you, and there's a kidney on its way, and also Nick's kidney. You can keep it in the fridge until you actually need it. Excellently played, I mean, kind of just knew exactly what needed to happen almost immediately. Wait, you want a curveball, you want another? A cursed watch and Gene Simmons. 00:53:43 Speaker 3: Oh wait, I guess we're giving Gene Simmons a cursed. 00:53:50 Speaker 2: Watch, which makes perfect sense. 00:53:52 Speaker 3: I love the idea of a cursed watch. 00:53:54 Speaker 2: I know on the wrist of the lead singer of Kiss. Was he the lead singer? I'm always confused about the members of Kiss and what they do. 00:54:03 Speaker 3: I'm not well versed in white Kiss averse. 00:54:08 Speaker 2: Just some older men in makeup at this point, kind of dramatic makeup. 00:54:14 Speaker 3: And they're all still alive. 00:54:15 Speaker 2: They're all of Kiss, as far as I know, is still alive by some luck, because they seem like they should probably all be dead at this point. They all seem like giant perverts to me. 00:54:25 Speaker 3: Huh, Again, I'm not well versed in white culture. 00:54:30 Speaker 2: I don't think kisses kisses its own thing. I'm not claiming claim it fair not my culture. Okay, well, that wasn't a curve ball. I obviously don't understand what a curve ball is. 00:54:42 Speaker 3: It's okay, I'm just going to be thinking about cursed watches for the rest of the day. 00:54:45 Speaker 2: It's all take a minute to think about a cursed watch, about who you'd give it to, Yeah, and who you would give it to in your life. Yeah. It's the last segment of the podcasts. Okay, it's called I said no emails. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com my listeners. I mean it's they're famously bad at life. They're having trouble with all kinds of things, mostly gift related, but they write in they ask for help. Will you hope me answer a question? 00:55:12 Speaker 3: I would love to? 00:55:13 Speaker 2: Okay, let me read here. This says, dear Bridger and disrespectful guest. 00:55:17 Speaker 3: That's you. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: I think I have a unique one for you. I'll be the oh, and then it says you'll be the judge. Well, I will be the judge. I was laid off last year and settled rather uncomfortably into freelance work and furniture design. In fact, I hate working freelance and I am genuinely bad at it, but the rent must get paid. It's damn near impossible in my city to get a job in the design world without having an inside contact to grease the wheels. However, an old colleague sent me a link to a post she saw, and lo and behold, I ended up getting that job. 00:55:51 Speaker 3: Okay, good for you. 00:55:53 Speaker 2: While this colleague friend didn't recommend me internally, she both recommended the job to me and also was a profest reference during the interview process. I'd love to send her something thoughtful that's not a candle or booze too predictable, somewhere in the fifty to seventy five dollars range. Could you please help me think of an original gift. I don't really know what she's intwo in her free time, but she's a badass construction project manager and puts up with a lot of bullshit. Interesting. Please help, Thank you in advance, all the best, Rebecca. Can I ask you a question just off the top here, Yeah, seventy five dollars gift should never be given to anyone right. 00:56:33 Speaker 3: As in that's too high or too low. 00:56:35 Speaker 2: It's either a fifty dollars gift or one hundred dollars gift. A seventy five dollars gift is very strange to. 00:56:41 Speaker 3: Me, aren't we all on a spectrum? 00:56:43 Speaker 2: Not that you get just sad Bridger except in gifts. Seventy five dollars is a weird territory. 00:56:51 Speaker 3: It is kind of weird. I would say, like one hundred is yeah, you're right, you're you know what? 00:56:55 Speaker 1: Thank you? 00:56:56 Speaker 2: Finally, finally, it is like one thing about me. 00:57:00 Speaker 3: I didn't say at all. The first idea that pops into my mind. Since you work in furniture design, dear friend, what's their name? 00:57:09 Speaker 2: Rebecca? 00:57:10 Speaker 3: Rebecca? What if you got this person a miniature of a cool piece of furniture, like a miniature lounge chair or a miniature like credenza, And when you're talking and then you put and then you drill a teeny teeny little hole and then put a flower in it as a vase. 00:57:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of cute. 00:57:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:57:35 Speaker 2: So when you were saying miniature, I was imagining like a micro machine. 00:57:39 Speaker 3: Oh no, not not okay, I mean more like the size of your hand, right. 00:57:42 Speaker 2: Like a tiny I guess the word might be tiny. Yeah, yeah, small, because miniatures are now that miniatures are like World of a ten ten right, so you're thinking like a small couch, a small What is a piece of furniture? 00:57:57 Speaker 3: A table? Table? A table might be weird, but it could be cool. 00:58:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of nice. This person is a for an construction project manager. What do they need? A tin lunch box? Is that something you would. 00:58:11 Speaker 3: Take the construction site? 00:58:12 Speaker 1: Tin? 00:58:12 Speaker 3: A tin lunch box? Yeah, it's kind of. 00:58:15 Speaker 2: Just tin poisonous. Maybe those metals you don't want your food. 00:58:19 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know aluminum metal a construction project manager. 00:58:26 Speaker 2: Hard hats. 00:58:27 Speaker 3: I was going to say, like a like a hard hat that you paint. Oh interesting, like a unique Yeah, I get like a hard hat that's from just from home depot, right going it cost a lot and then you know, you sound like a creative person. Paint it. 00:58:40 Speaker 2: That's I feel like that's something that could be happening very soon all over TikTok. Yeah, people painting construction hats. 00:58:47 Speaker 3: I would buy one of those. I know. 00:58:49 Speaker 2: I bet you there's an Etsy shop that sells that. It sounds very cool. It seems like such a natural thing to paint. 00:58:55 Speaker 3: Huh. 00:58:56 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we're really influencing culture. 00:58:58 Speaker 3: Here, Anally's can you check Etsy and just see if you can get painted construction hat? Is that now? 00:59:06 Speaker 2: I feel extremely gay? 00:59:08 Speaker 3: Is it a hat? It's a hard hat? Hard hat? 00:59:12 Speaker 2: Hard hat? 00:59:14 Speaker 3: It does it happen? 00:59:14 Speaker 2: It is a hat? Let's be hard is the adjective hat? Construction cap construction can looks like they're struggling. I can't Maybe it's not happening. Yeah, I don't think this is a thing yet. 00:59:27 Speaker 3: Well, which is good, Which is great for you. Becca. If this new job doesn't work out, you've got a whole shop. You got a whole Etsy shot. 00:59:36 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I feel like we answered Rebecca's question. I mean, I'm not taking credit for it. You just did it. 00:59:41 Speaker 3: We would your idea be for her? 00:59:43 Speaker 2: I said, a tin lunch box. You can paint that too, A pair of coveralls like a nice car heart jacket. Sure, paint that thick pair of gloves. Paint those two chunky boots. Nice paint like a knee chunky construction boot. That's a new thing. That's also so you're just as long as it's painted. 01:00:06 Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, it has to be special the two Okay, so it has to be painted buy boots. 01:00:12 Speaker 2: And I cannot stress enough Rebecca, it can't be seventy five. 01:00:15 Speaker 3: Dollars, correct, It has to be fifty or one hundred. 01:00:17 Speaker 2: That seventy five dollars. It's like you're saying, I don't know about you as a person. 01:00:22 Speaker 3: And what's really special is that Bridger will actually send you a twenty five dollars Amazon gift card to supplement the seventy five seventy five to one hundred. 01:00:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Rebecca, go for the fifty dollars gift. Go for the fifty stick to fifty. You can also do a ten dollars gift. No, We've answered Rebecca's question perfectly. And congratulations on the new job, Rebecca, congratulations. I'll love a new job until it becomes a job you've had for a couple of years, and then we hate it for a couple of months, a couple of months, a few hours, a few hours, I want sortied mail and left during my lunch break. 01:00:58 Speaker 3: Wow, quits. 01:00:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never went back. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: Amazing on your first day, first day, that's incredible. It was not a job for me, did you tell anybody? Or did you just walk out? 01:01:08 Speaker 2: I just left his lunch break, just left. I don't know. It must have been really miserable, because I can put up with. 01:01:16 Speaker 3: A lot, anyone like follow up with you. 01:01:19 Speaker 2: I guess maybe I was doing a bad job because they didn't get back in touch. They're just like, he's gone. 01:01:23 Speaker 3: Maybe they were like, was he ever even here? I think it was that a ghost. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: I'm constantly being mistaken as a ghost that tracks. Uh No. I feel like that was probably more of a thank god he's gone situation, also something I probably dealing with a lot. But you know whatever, Nick, we answered it. You played the game perfectly. I have an actual you know, one in ten gifts on this podcast is usable in my personal life. This is something that could be on my shelf or on my counter. Yeah, I can actually use. Yeah. 01:01:54 Speaker 3: It's great for when you're like leaving the house and you're like, I should have brushed my teeth. But that time, I wonder if I leave it in my car, I'd be worried about the heat. That's true. I don't know if the heat would fuck it up, But why take a risk. 01:02:08 Speaker 2: Right, just have it on the counter. Wonderful. I've had such a nice time with you. Likewise, and the birds are now chirping. Yeah, thanks for having me, Thank you for being Thank you Bridge listener. We've done a lot today. We've done so much. I've brought this new slang into your life. We've all got to get that going. So I can. 01:02:27 Speaker 3: I really have to be here for the wrapout. 01:02:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, Abs, and it's half an hour, so you know, I have to read all of the credits. I do my thank you. 01:02:36 Speaker 3: You can start over and start over. 01:02:39 Speaker 2: We've done a lot here today on the podcast, and uh, it's over. It's absolutely over. You've got to move on. Nick has become very sick. His nose is bleeding. We've got to get I'm calling in an ambulance. Please get going with your life. The podcast is over. I love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Cottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:03:33 Speaker 3: And I invit? Did you hear? 01:03:38 Speaker 1: Funa man myself perfectly clear? But you're a guest to me. You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff. So how do you dare to survey me