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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in hour number two Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us as we are rolling through debate. Later tonight,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that in many other things

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Speaker 1: with Bill O'Reilly. Eighteen number one best selling books in

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Speaker 1: the Killing series. The latest released today, Killing the Witches.

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Speaker 1: The Horror of Salem, Massachusetts came out yesterday. Sorry, every

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Speaker 1: book comes out on Tuesday. Check it out Bill O'Reilly

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Speaker 1: dot com, No Spin News. Bill, appreciate you hanging with

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Speaker 1: us here. Let's start right off the top. You and

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Speaker 1: me are on the right side of history here. You

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Speaker 1: came on this show several months ago, and you, I

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Speaker 1: believe correctly said that Joe Biden is not going to run.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton is going to try to defend his take

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is going to be the nominee. But

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Speaker 1: as all of these continued revelations pile up, and as

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Speaker 1: now they're trying to make sure that he wears the

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Speaker 1: right shoes, he can't even walk up and down the

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Speaker 1: Air Force one stairs. Bill, When and how does Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden announce that he's not running in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: to make Buck sext know us a big fat steak.

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Speaker 2: I think it's when the New York Jets sign him

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Speaker 2: to be a reporter back, which is coming shortly.

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Speaker 1: He might be better than Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, it's pretty grim here, I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 2: So it's a drip, drip drip. The Republican strategy that

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Speaker 2: I have just uncovered and will lead with tonight on

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Speaker 2: my broadcast, no spin news scene everywhere in Bill O'Reilly

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Speaker 2: dot com is the nexus point is that the Republicans

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Speaker 2: have decided to pretty much put out a story a

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Speaker 2: week about the Biden family finance grip. So they have

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Speaker 2: the information, but instead of dumping it all at once,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be part sold out and in addition

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Speaker 2: to that, the border meltdown, which has now reached the

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Speaker 2: catastrophic level. That story will then be highlighted alongside the grifting.

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Speaker 2: Those two things, along with food and gas prices, pretty

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Speaker 2: much doom Joe Biden. So I expect before the vote

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Speaker 2: begins in early twenty four to see mister Biden do

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Speaker 2: what LBJ did say. Look, you know I'm eighty and

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Speaker 2: Jill doesn't want me to do it anymore. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to run for reelection, not quit or resign.

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Speaker 2: That could happen. It depends how much material the Republicans have.

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Speaker 2: And then you get into well, who's going to replace Biden?

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Speaker 2: And the Democratic Party doesn't have anybody. If they did,

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Speaker 2: that person would already be front and center, and Biden

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Speaker 2: would have already announced he's not going to run again

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Speaker 2: because there's nobody in the Democratic Party confident he'll win reelection, nobody,

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Speaker 2: And so they're hoping Michelle Obama, but there's no indication

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Speaker 2: And other than missus Obama, there's really nobody at this

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Speaker 2: point that could be Trump in the Democratic Party. So

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Speaker 2: it is a huge mess for mister Biden and his party.

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Speaker 3: Hey Bill, it's buck. What do you think about where

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Speaker 3: the Republican primary stands right now? We obviously got the

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Speaker 3: debate tonight. Trump is doing his own thing same night

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Speaker 3: as the debate. Do you think that this this thing?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to call it already or do you

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Speaker 3: think that it's too early to tell? Well, you think

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Speaker 3: there could be some moves here by some of the

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Speaker 3: non Trump candidates that would make a difference in the polls.

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Speaker 1: What's your take.

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Speaker 2: I don't see anybody on the stage tonight in seem Valley,

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Speaker 2: California that's going to be Trump.

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Speaker 1: So if you were, if you were advising, so sorry

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Speaker 1: to cut you off there, but I think that's the

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Speaker 1: consensus view. But if you were saying it's over, so

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Speaker 1: you're saying it's over, it's basically.

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Speaker 2: At this point. But with Donald Trump, any any day

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Speaker 2: could be a bad day. So you don't know. But

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Speaker 2: if I can't see any of the people on the stage,

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Speaker 2: and this is not disrespect towards them rising quickly enough

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Speaker 2: to knock him off in the primary voting, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's just too far out in front.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So what we were just talking about, Bill, and

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Speaker 1: this is a building on that because I think that's

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Speaker 1: the consensus view, and I think both Buck and I

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Speaker 1: it's Trump vi DeSantis, if it's Trump v. Nicky Haley?

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Speaker 1: Is there anybody even if it were head to head,

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Speaker 1: or does that even matter at this point?

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Speaker 2: Well, Desanta's is the second strongest candidate because of his

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Speaker 2: record in Florida, but he's very tentative on the national

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Speaker 2: campaign trail, so it isn't show a lot of fire.

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately, in America now, many voters want their presidential

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Speaker 2: seeing that from Ron DeSantis at all. But I expect

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Speaker 2: spend their own money, believe me. And there's another factor

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Speaker 2: to night that will prohibit people from watching the Republican

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Speaker 2: debate that you guys didn't mention because you don't know

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Speaker 2: about it. There is an interview dropping on ex Twitter

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Speaker 2: at age thirty, Tucker Carlson, Bill O'Reilly a one hour

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Speaker 2: interview as.

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Speaker 1: A publicized Yet are you breaking news here here?

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for Carlson. I'm waiting for those people too,

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Speaker 2: because it's their show, not my show. Okay, can you give.

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Speaker 1: Us a little preview here?

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Speaker 3: Bill, a little little sense of what It'll.

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Speaker 2: Give you a lot of preview. I mean, he liked

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Speaker 2: killing the witches, Carlson did, and he wanted to hone

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Speaker 2: in on the demonic possession portion of the book, which

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Speaker 2: is substantial because the witches were hung over allegations there

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Speaker 2: in the League with the Devil, and I caught his attention.

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Speaker 2: But then we talked about politics, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: cable news, and we talked about his situation, my situation

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Speaker 2: was a fascinating one hour interview. So that comes again

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Speaker 2: at eight thirty. And to make it easy for everybody,

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Speaker 2: go to Bill O'Reilly dot com ill of a big banner.

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Speaker 2: All you do is click on it and boom, the

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Speaker 2: interview will come up. And I think what Callson is

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Speaker 2: it as well. But you can see it way after

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Speaker 2: want to. But it was the first time that I've

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Speaker 2: and it was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 3: Play Bill, why killing the witches right now? Like what

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Speaker 3: drove you to pick that as the topic for the

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Speaker 2: Because there's a witch hunt right now in the United States.

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Speaker 2: We're duplicating it. We're duplicating what happened in sixteen ninety

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Speaker 2: two and twenty human beings were executed on false charges.

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Speaker 2: The cancel culture does this is all day long. They

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Speaker 2: don't execute you, but they destroy you and your family.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Trump is the poster boy for the witch hunt.

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Speaker 2: How many times has he said he's the victim of

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Speaker 2: a witch hunt. And it's true. I'm not Trump's lawyer,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying Trump is totally not guilty of

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Speaker 2: foolishness and other things. But'll just take yesterday, as judge

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Speaker 2: in New York says, all Trump is guilty of defrauding

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Speaker 2: banks in his real estate business. Well, hello, there was

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Speaker 2: not one complaint from any bank. He paid back all

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Speaker 2: No victim, no beef. Why is the taxpayer's money in

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Speaker 2: New York being spent on this? Why? For what reason?

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Speaker 2: It's a witch hunt, the same thing that stupid stormy

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Speaker 2: you a hundred examples of people's whose lives have been

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Speaker 2: destroyed based on false accusations peddled by the corrupt corporate media.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that drive it. In Salem, it was

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Speaker 2: the insane Puritan clerics who were doing it, and they

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Speaker 2: now in twenty twenty three America, it's ideology. It's driving

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Speaker 2: where Hollywood is appalled by that, but Hollywood loves the

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Speaker 2: cancel culture.

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Speaker 3: You think the bill was the Kavanaugh Kavanaugh situation kind

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Speaker 2: For you, Well, it exploded it. You know, when you

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Speaker 2: he just survived. He just survived, just got on the court.

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Speaker 2: And to this day there's been no hard evidence of

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Speaker 2: in a witch hunt society now. So that's why I

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Speaker 2: wrote Killing the Witches. I give you the history, and

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Speaker 2: Where do you see this voyage sixty six days from

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Speaker 2: Rams thinks giving passes stuffing, No, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: hunt that we're enduring because of the Cancel Culture bill.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Trump as the target of cancel Culture. He yesterday,

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Speaker 1: in many gambling markets you can gamble on elections many

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Speaker 1: different parts of the world, became the favorite to be

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Speaker 1: you know what, fourteen months, roughly thirteen and a half

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Speaker 1: months from the election. Do you think Trump would win election?

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Speaker 1: If you're predicting, and I know again it's a ways away.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Trump will be elected in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But if it was the election were tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: I think you beat Biden.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Well, that's encouraging.

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Speaker 2: People, the folks, not the corrupt media people and corrupt politicians.

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Speaker 2: The folks they know they're getting hosed. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: know it's out of control. I mean they know this

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Speaker 2: trans stuff in this woke culture, this is all Biden

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Speaker 2: and then you throw in the border. I mean Trump

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Speaker 2: would beat them in my opinion if election, we're hell tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But again, we live in a country that's so unstable

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Speaker 2: way and make these kinds of predictions. I did, as

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Speaker 2: you rightly pointed out. I think it was the first

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Speaker 2: national commentator to say Biden won't run again. But I

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Speaker 1: Congratulations by the way on the book. It actually is

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you guys having me on anytime you

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Speaker 3: On will I will check it out, Clay, we'll check

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Speaker 3: it out. And actually I'm gonna get a copy of

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Speaker 2: Phil, I've always sent you those books. You guys didn't

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in everybody, We follow the migrants crisis, illegal aliens,

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Speaker 3: They've complicated things here because there's illegal so they're illegal

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Speaker 4: Today, under my leadership and under my direction, New York

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Speaker 4: Two hundred and fifty National Guard members will focus solely

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Speaker 3: Work Authorization, temporary Protected Status, National Guard Clay. They're getting

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to call out the National

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Speaker 1: We hit eleven thousand illegals crossing the southern border again

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Speaker 1: And you know what immediately happened, buck every single Venezuelan

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Speaker 1: They're letting us get jobs. You can make forty times

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Speaker 3: And just remember what destroyed Venezuela running an economy on

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Speaker 1: Back in Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us. I want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: Tons of evidence, all of it very compelling, that Joe

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Speaker 2: In terms of this thing about what are you talking

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Speaker 1: The only guy made money from China is this guy is.

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Speaker 2: The only one. Nobody else has made money from China.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one hundred percent a lie. All the people out

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Speaker 1: there that keep screaming no evidence, no evidence, I would

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Speaker 1: just reinforce buck the Menindez situation makes the Hunter Biden situation.

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Speaker 1: Menindez does like jaywalking. It's a minor degree of allegations

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Speaker 3: You know they're going to say, they're going to say,

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Speaker 3: but Joe didn't know. Joe didn't know what Hunter was

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: The thing about all this, Clay is a lot of

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Speaker 3: this has been a parent for a long time. The original,

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Speaker 3: to be a major liability for Joe Biden. That reality

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Speaker 1: I mean during the primary he was having to deny

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Speaker 3: But yet, but I mean even before, well before the

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Speaker 3: If it's so bad, where are the consequences for it?

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Speaker 3: as an understatement, Hunter was taking money from foreign adversaries

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Speaker 1: That is just what happened.

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Speaker 3: Now, did Joe Biden know?

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Speaker 1: the elevator. And the reason why I bring that up

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Speaker 1: is doesn't get a lot of attention. But before he

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Speaker 1: said that he was only going to be suspended a

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Speaker 1: few games, and he was allowed to show up at

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Speaker 1: training camp. He's a Baltimore Ravens player. Baltimore raven fans,

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Speaker 1: Many of them cheered ray Rice when he ran onto

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Speaker 1: the field for the first time for his first public

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Speaker 1: appearance after he knocked his wife out. There is a

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Speaker 1: statue to ray Lewis, who was charged with double murder

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Speaker 1: outside of the Baltimore Ravens Stadium. And I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to just pick on Ravens fans here. My point is

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Speaker 1: if you make the team more likely to win, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you do.

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm I mean, this is what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying with the Biden stuff. I don't think they care

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Speaker 3: at all. I think the Democrats believe that they have

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Speaker 3: enough loyalty from registered not even just the base from

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Speaker 3: registered Democrats, and they have a good early voting voter

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Speaker 3: turnout system that they you know, have a better system

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Speaker 3: in place. Look, we don't even talk about this. Everyone says, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the system was rigged in twenty twenty. Fine, how are

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Speaker 3: we going to get that undone this time around?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What evidence is there that this time around the Trump

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Speaker 3: apparatus for getting votes out is going to be better

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Speaker 3: than what. I'm not talking about who's a better candidate.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about who the American people want I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: what advantage are we going to have with Trump as

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Speaker 3: the candidate over the Democrat based on what we saw

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty for the you know, get out the

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Speaker 3: vote effort, for the early voting, for the different ways

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Speaker 3: that Democrats are able to micro target. You know, they

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Speaker 3: get people to vote early so then they can start

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Speaker 3: to hone in on the less likely voters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and this.

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Speaker 3: Is you know, people we like to think that the system.

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, well, the American people, the wisdom of

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Speaker 3: the American people. I mean, first of all, Joe Biden's president, now,

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Speaker 3: so what kind of wisdom can we really talk about?

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Speaker 1: But like it's all gonna work out. The good guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna win.

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Speaker 3: That's not the case, right Like they if they have

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Speaker 3: a better system on the field, they're gonna win the game.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is why.

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Speaker 3: I think right now it's a lot of emotion and

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Speaker 3: not a lot of strategy about how this is gonna go.

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Speaker 3: And with with the Biden stuff, you know, if he

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Speaker 3: manages to stay in and I think, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: talking of this a million times a day, I think

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Speaker 3: he will. I think Democrats are effectively just thinking that

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Speaker 3: the brand that the you know, it's not the CEO

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Speaker 3: of Coke versus the CEO of Pepsi. It's Coke versus Pepsi,

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Speaker 3: and they think Coke is gonna win, and everything else

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Speaker 3: is kind of noise, and they're also indicting Pepsi like

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Speaker 3: five times over.

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Speaker 1: So, well, here's the thing I would add on the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens Stadium. But eventually ray Rice got kicked to

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Speaker 1: the curb and they kicked him to the curb buck

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Speaker 1: because they decided his talent wasn't worth the problems. And

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Speaker 1: one of the big lessons of sports that I think

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Speaker 1: everybody out there listening, is so long as your talent

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Speaker 1: exceeds your problems, you will always be employed. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what it is. If you're the best car salesman

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Speaker 1: but you got messy personal life, you probably get to

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Speaker 1: keep your job on the car lot. If you are

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Speaker 1: the best at anything in your profession, you can deal

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Speaker 1: with problems your talent you make people money, you get

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Speaker 1: to keep working. Right. The reason Colin Kaepernick's not in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is not because he took a knee, even

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Speaker 1: though that's stupid and indefensible and he's a bum. It's

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Speaker 1: because he took a knee and he wasn't that good

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Speaker 1: at playing quarterback anymore. And the reason why I bring

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Speaker 1: this up is in the back of my mind, Buck,

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Speaker 1: as this drip drip drip of allegation continues against Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: there's a sort of a ledger in everybody's mind. And

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Speaker 1: right now, I think you're right. I think Democrats are

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Speaker 1: still of the opinion that loyalty will drag Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is going to work. But I feel like that weight

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Speaker 1: is continuing to add up. And it's almost like a boxer.

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Speaker 1: You know, you get enough body blows, eventually there's a

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Speaker 1: is the most devastating, it's just the culmination of all

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Speaker 1: those all those blows. Biden's taken a lot of punches

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Speaker 1: right now, and this.

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Speaker 3: Is where I have to say, we are in a

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Speaker 3: moving target situation whereas Biden gets weaker. Okay, fine, what

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Speaker 3: do we think is going to look like for Trump

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Speaker 3: once the primary is locked in, once the Super Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Oh, they're going to throw punches like him and the

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Speaker 1: license which we've never seen before, that's right, And the

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Speaker 1: will will actually end if Donald Trump wins.

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Speaker 3: They are going to go all in on this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we know this, and how that's going to affect

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Speaker 3: the psyche of the electorate is something that's very hard

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Speaker 3: to understand, you know, in advance. I do think, no

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Speaker 3: matter what, it will be a close election. I do

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Speaker 3: think that Donald Trump has the ability to win this election.

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Speaker 3: But I don't want us to get you know, deluded

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Speaker 3: win this thing. He was old empathetic when twenty twenty happened. Okay,

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Speaker 3: crazy things occur in politics in this country, and we

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Speaker 3: A guy with ninety one indictments, yes, all of them

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Speaker 1: Do you think.

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Speaker 3: Trump's so called lead will be so big, just saying

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Speaker 3: Mark from Western PA and Mark, let me let me

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Speaker 3: just say, I don't know how. I mean, we're trying

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Speaker 3: our best here to always nothing is done, yet, nothing

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Speaker 3: is set, no one has won, and things can change.

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Speaker 3: I started out in the beginning, in the first hour,

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Speaker 3: possible for him to get let's say, a double digit

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Speaker 3: poll change today based in the primary, based on the

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Speaker 3: debate performance, And you know what happened. I got emails

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Speaker 3: from people saying, why are you trying to push DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not pushing anything. I'm just talking about

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Speaker 3: what's going on here. So neither need well Clay assumes

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Speaker 3: a little more than I do. But we don't assume

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Speaker 3: that this contest is over.

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Speaker 1: I said on July seventeenth that I thought it was over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and sin yeah, yeah, it's not officially over until you know,

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Speaker 1: the probably Super Tuesday, right. But the question that we've asked,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get some of these calls is, and I

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Speaker 1: think this is the only question if we get to

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Speaker 1: one v one and it's Trump versus DeSantis, or it's

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Speaker 1: Trump versus Nicky Hayley, is there a audience there that

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Speaker 1: would move and support the other candidate. Right now, it's

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Speaker 1: one versus like eight or ten or whatever. That's a mess. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a mess, no question. Let's see.

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Speaker 3: We've got Joyce in Salem, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Joyce, what's going on.

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Speaker 5: I would just like to say that the reason why

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Speaker 5: there's such a high amount of percent of people wanting

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump is because we elected him in twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: and he is our president. He did wonderful things, and

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Speaker 5: anybody else that can stand behind him, like Pence, doesn't

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Speaker 5: deserve to be president. DeSantis, who he helped get the job,

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Speaker 5: doesn't deserve it. Nikki Haley, her big thing was she

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Speaker 5: didn't want a husband to go to war. I understand that,

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Speaker 5: but you know what, you can't run for one person's cause.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem with our government. They're running for one

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Speaker 5: person's calls, and that's Biden's. Evidently he wants billions of

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Speaker 5: dollars from the Chinese. He wants to give our money

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Speaker 5: away to the Craines. He's a criminal, and you can't

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Speaker 5: tell me there's not evidence there's banking trip.

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Speaker 1: We agree with you. Thank you, thank you for the call. Joyce.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the worst president in any of our lives.

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Speaker 1: And Donald Trump or any other Republican, if Biden is

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Speaker 1: a nominee, should beat him. And he's a crook and

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Speaker 1: his family is filled with criminals. I agree with all that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we've got an interesting call here, Joe

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Speaker 1: in Kennesaw, Georgia. What you got for us? Joe, Hey, Lee,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know if you brought this up because you're a sports guy,

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Speaker 6: but with the brivery scandal, it's clearly the Cam Newton rule,

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Speaker 6: and I know Buck doesn't know about it, but what

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Speaker 6: and then from junior college to Auburn. Well, they paid

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Speaker 6: paid Cam Newton's dad, Cecil Newton, like two hundred and

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Speaker 6: the NCAA found out about it, and they investigated it,

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Speaker 6: and they couldn't do anything to Auburn or to Cam

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Speaker 6: didn't give the money directly to Cam. They gave it

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Speaker 6: to his dad and then they instituted to Cam Newton

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Speaker 6: rule than I.

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Speaker 1: Was unaware of all of that. This is a huge like.

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Speaker 1: So Joe has just managed to bring together two huge

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Speaker 1: fiery groups, the Joe Biden pro and con people and

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Speaker 1: also the Cam Newton So basically buck His point is,

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Speaker 1: there are strong allegations that Cam Newton was paid to

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Speaker 1: go to Auburn. You can now pay players back then

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Speaker 1: you couldn't. But what they were unable to do is

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Speaker 1: determine exactly whether Cam got the money or knew that

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Speaker 1: the money was coming. And so his analogy is not

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Speaker 1: a bad one. The Joe Biden defense is, oh, Hunter

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Speaker 1: may had gotten paid, but I didn't know anything about that.

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Speaker 1: Cam was claiming through his defense attorneys, And again it's

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Speaker 1: simplifying it a little bit, but that even if any

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Speaker 1: payment happened, he didn't know anything about it, So why

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Speaker 1: should he be ineligible to play football? So it's the

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Speaker 1: similar defense. It's like the barrier head in the sand,

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Speaker 1: Oh there was money paid, well, I didn't know anything

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Speaker 1: about that money. Did Joe Biden and Cam Newton defenses

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Speaker 1: are fairly similar, And what it comes down to is

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Speaker 1: knowledge of payment? Right, how do you impute knowledge. You

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Speaker 1: can look around at everything and say there's no possible

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Speaker 1: way Joe Biden didn't know about this. But without the

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Speaker 1: proverbial smoking gun, you can claim lack of knowledge. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, same thing that Robert Menendez is going

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Speaker 1: to claim for all the payments that went to his wife,

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Speaker 1: he's going to claim they were legit and that he

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Speaker 1: didn't know about some other It's just it's a mess.

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Speaker 3: There's some sophisticated pro level college football morality and ethics

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Speaker 3: analysis there.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say we're covering a lot of ground. I

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Speaker 1: just think if you're a sports fan, you totally understand

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Speaker 1: this idea of you don't care about morality if it

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Speaker 1: makes your team more likely to win. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what democrats are doing. And when people think that

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Speaker 1: it's about politics, the future of the nation, the future

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Speaker 1: of perhaps the world, they care a lot more similar

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Speaker 1: mentality now