Speaker 1: Is this seat taking Conrad? I choose you? That was
Speaker 1: the moment that fans have been waiting for for three
Speaker 1: full seasons from the summer I turned pretty and TJ
Speaker 1: and I watched the finale finally a couple days after
Speaker 1: it aired, and you know what, it doesn't get more
Speaker 1: rom COMI than that.
Speaker 2: We were screaming at the television.
Speaker 1: We were screaming.
Speaker 3: It lost me. I was so upset.
Speaker 1: They gave the people what they want, TJ.
Speaker 3: That's not what I wanted.
Speaker 1: What did you want to happen?
Speaker 2: You know what? It completely went into your rom calm,
Speaker 2: predictable format. You give me these lines.
Speaker 3: It was always you home is wherever you are?
Speaker 2: This thing and it completely cheezed up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this to you often when I come
Speaker 1: up to the table, When is this seat taken? I
Speaker 1: choose you to She ran to the train state. Oh
Speaker 1: the running scene, yes, Oh, it was running through the
Speaker 1: streets of Paris. It couldn't get more romantic. And usually
Speaker 1: in these rom comps you see the man running to
Speaker 1: the woman who's left. But it was a little switcheroo.
Speaker 1: She was running and she chose him, So that was
Speaker 1: a little twist. Female empowerment. Yes, they had all the
Speaker 1: nods to all the young women and older women. In fact,
Speaker 1: we had our friend she she I don't want to
Speaker 1: give away her age, but she was in The Golden
Speaker 1: Bachelor and she was texting us yesterday talking about the passion,
Speaker 1: the sexual tension, how much she loved the finale. So
Speaker 1: this is something that has resonated with people and women
Speaker 1: specifically of all ages, and it's been fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is obviously never something I would be into,
Speaker 2: but I've got girls around me all the time. Not
Speaker 2: you saying this, but are you talking about this show.
Speaker 2: We started watching it kind of as a joke. We
Speaker 2: kind of got into it, then we started enjoying it.
Speaker 2: Then we started rooting for one guy over the other.
Speaker 2: Conrad has been my guy. But in the finale it
Speaker 2: wasn't filming.
Speaker 1: He got a little weepy, a little sentimental.
Speaker 2: Just one of them stand up straight, just come on,
Speaker 2: do something.
Speaker 1: He was like a lost puppy dog. Love me, love me.
Speaker 1: But I mean even the title of the finale was
Speaker 1: so ram commy. At last one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 1: But you know, they always have to have one of
Speaker 1: the very well, they had a lot of French songs,
Speaker 1: a lot of Parisian songs. That was a little too
Speaker 1: much for me. I was like, oget it, you're in Paris,
Speaker 1: it's romantic. But yeah, that last finale clocked in at
Speaker 1: an hour and twenty minutes, and Prime Video has said
Speaker 1: that season three broke all records, drawing twenty five million viewers,
Speaker 1: topping the charts globally. It hit number one on the
Speaker 1: platform at Prime Video in one hundred and twenty countries
Speaker 1: and is the most watched season among women ages eighteen
Speaker 1: to thirty four. So, yes, in the end, they gave
Speaker 1: the viewers what they wanted. And this also was a trilogy,
Speaker 1: a book that's how it all began, and Team Conrad won.
Speaker 2: Do you know I did the books in this way
Speaker 2: because I know the writers they did.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get into that a little bit later, because
Speaker 1: there were a couple changes, but for the most part, yes,
Speaker 1: and I just it isn't over. And that's the other
Speaker 1: exciting news with the season finale came the news that
Speaker 1: it's not over. There's a movie coming, and so of
Speaker 1: course it will be and so Bonrad bon Rad lives on,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get more of bon Rad so we
Speaker 1: actually got some fun color from the fans who were
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be in the theater in Paris on
Speaker 1: Wednesday evening when they aired the finale, and this is
Speaker 1: how they described it. The fans were screaming and losing
Speaker 1: their minds as the sex scene and the love scenes
Speaker 1: played out on the big screen because this was steamy.
Speaker 1: This was not in the books. They actually did not
Speaker 1: have Belly have premarital sex in the books, so they
Speaker 1: made the decision in the series because she had sex
Speaker 1: with both brothers in the series now and we finally
Speaker 1: saw her and Conrad seal the deal in the finale,
Speaker 1: but she decided. Hans said that the writer, Jenny Hans,
Speaker 1: said that she wanted to make it more current and
Speaker 1: basically give again a little female empowerment that women can
Speaker 1: choose who to have sex with. It's not about being
Speaker 1: you know, chased or a virgin before you get married.
Speaker 1: So she adapted that.
Speaker 3: I don't know how old is the story like the books.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how old they were, but they did
Speaker 1: make the decision and she was comfortable with it having
Speaker 1: the lead character Belly explore her sexuality. She's twenty two
Speaker 1: in the finale.
Speaker 3: So that was birthday.
Speaker 1: It was her right. It was so rom comy. He
Speaker 1: surprises her in Paris. We think she has a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: They make us think she did. Then we realize they
Speaker 1: broke up weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Because they rolled up on a schooner together on a
Speaker 2: little best.
Speaker 1: Thigh they embraced goodbye. Yes, so you know what it does?
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, it has all the hallmarks of a
Speaker 1: rom common. Yes, our daughters were all into it. But
Speaker 1: why did this series in particular resonate so much? And
Speaker 1: it's interesting this series started during the pandemic, and so
Speaker 1: a lot of viewers say this was their comfort food.
Speaker 1: They wanted something that was nostalgic and joyful, and so
Speaker 1: that does make people changed what they wanted, what they
Speaker 1: needed when they realized we were in a world of
Speaker 1: crises and that in terms of the news today, one
Speaker 1: of the fans I thought this was really interesting, saying
Speaker 1: it was then in the pandemic and is now a
Speaker 1: source of comfort, especially with what's been going on in
Speaker 1: the world and now watching this you don't get shamed
Speaker 1: for it. They're like, normally, if you admitted you watch
Speaker 1: this series, you might get shamed for Like you watched
Speaker 1: the summer. I turned pretty Now it's like, what, you're
Speaker 1: not in the know, you're not watching it, you don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. But that really makes sense that
Speaker 1: it struck a chord the way it did with audiences,
Speaker 1: and then they got sucked into the story. And even
Speaker 1: though maybe the acting when the writing isn't exactly what
Speaker 1: we're used to when we see some of these White
Speaker 1: Lotus right, these streaming services that are clever and funny,
Speaker 1: this was just old school, kind of a Lifetime movie
Speaker 1: esque and feeling of nostalgia.
Speaker 2: And that's not a criticism and it should not be
Speaker 2: compared to a White Lotus. I I would argue Robes,
Speaker 2: you have seen me get more worked up and emotional
Speaker 2: over what's going on between Conrad and Jeremiah than I
Speaker 2: ever did about anybody on White Lotus.
Speaker 1: That is true.
Speaker 2: I watch, I respect it and love, but I wasn't
Speaker 2: clamoring to go watch the next episode of White Lotus,
Speaker 2: and everyone I watched I loved and found phenomenal. You
Speaker 2: get me in front of an episode off somewhere, I
Speaker 2: turned britty, I'm throwing shit at the TV. I'm all
Speaker 2: worked up and said, what the hell? Why is he
Speaker 2: wearing that shirt? What's wrong with his hair? What was
Speaker 2: belly thinking it? Because the writing does, it hits something
Speaker 2: in all of us. It hits something about relationships and
Speaker 2: the complexities and family and friendships and all these things.
Speaker 2: The bottom line, no matter what you think about the
Speaker 2: writing or the performances or how any of it, here's
Speaker 2: the bottom line. A love triangle involving a young girl
Speaker 2: and two of her best friends who happened to be brothers.
Speaker 2: That is drama, and somebody will watch it's that, ye,
Speaker 2: point blank.
Speaker 1: And it's about summers and nostalgia and going back and
Speaker 1: falling in love for the first time and having that
Speaker 1: summer place. I mean, I didn't grow up like that,
Speaker 1: didn't have a didn't have a summer place, but we did.
Speaker 3: We would go to our place on the Mississippi River.
Speaker 1: We go to the yes, the cape every summer. No.
Speaker 1: But actually, in that sense too, you're its voyeurism. You're
Speaker 1: watching people who do have that sort of means and
Speaker 1: are able to have that beautiful home and on the
Speaker 1: beach where young kids can get together. Most of us
Speaker 1: didn't have that, so we can enjoy watching other people
Speaker 1: do it because it seems like that would have been
Speaker 1: amazing life.
Speaker 3: Being a sixteen year old with a range Rover, it
Speaker 3: would have been awesome.
Speaker 1: What's that like?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's also this was part of that where you
Speaker 1: were just watching the halves. Even when you're a have not,
Speaker 1: it's still fun to watch that play out.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I was so thrown You know
Speaker 2: what when it turned to rom Com. You know, I
Speaker 2: am as anti romcom as they get. I respect them,
Speaker 2: but you have to drag me kicking and screaming. We've
Speaker 2: been in movies before, and I leaned over to you.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I leaned over.
Speaker 1: You got really choked up. I know it was emotional
Speaker 1: for you to watch the finale.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it in my mind again, and I
Speaker 2: got worked out. But I've leaned over to you in
Speaker 2: movies before and said to you, is this a rom Com?
Speaker 1: Did you trick me?
Speaker 2: Yes? So I am so anti Romcom for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: Just they're not my lane.
Speaker 1: They're formulating fine.
Speaker 2: When I saw the formula started playing out yesterday, I
Speaker 2: got I gotta know it. I gotta know it because
Speaker 2: I was upset that I've been tricked. I was upset
Speaker 2: that I've been bamboozled in some way to watching a
Speaker 2: rom com.
Speaker 1: But that's why it's comfort food, because you know what
Speaker 1: you're getting, and then you get, yes, the ending in
Speaker 1: a bright, shiny package with a bow on top, but.
Speaker 3: Sure, you know what you're getting.
Speaker 2: What do you always say about expectations, right?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: I was disappointed because my expectations were not that it
Speaker 2: was going to go with that direction.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Then you don't really know rom coms because
Speaker 1: they don't deviate, they stay in their lane. They know
Speaker 1: what they are.
Speaker 2: You didn't tell me this was a rom com.
Speaker 1: This entire sh rom drum kind of it wasn't really funny.
Speaker 1: It was a m dress. I think that's a better
Speaker 1: way to maybe put it. But honestly, speaking to that passion.
Speaker 1: The one thing that actually had I think it definitely
Speaker 1: through producers this season because things got nasty, the whole
Speaker 1: Team Conrad team Jeremiah thing. Remember we actually did a
Speaker 1: whole episode on it. They had to put out a
Speaker 1: warning ask people to be kind, that, you know, let's
Speaker 1: be nice this summer. A fictional character, correct, and they
Speaker 1: actually pointed that out. You know, the actors are real,
Speaker 1: their characters are not so please make the distinction between
Speaker 1: the two, because it did get pretty heat, but that
Speaker 1: was the level of passion. But you know what, we
Speaker 1: can all be excited now collectively because it's not over
Speaker 1: for Belly and Conrad. We get to see more, perhaps
Speaker 1: the next chapter, and when we come back, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk everything we know about the upcoming movie. And
Speaker 1: welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ, where
Speaker 1: we are talking about this season finale of the Summer
Speaker 1: I Turn Pretty. And we say finale, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: really a finale. It was just stay tuned for the
Speaker 1: next movie now of the Summer I Turn Pretty. And
Speaker 1: here's what we do know. We know that the actors
Speaker 1: who played Belly and Conrad have already signed up, and
Speaker 1: we don't have confirmation that the actor who plays Jeremiah
Speaker 1: is in, but fans have noted that he posed for
Speaker 1: pictures with the other two in front of the movie
Speaker 1: signage that they had on the red carpet for the premiere,
Speaker 1: so it seems as though he will likely. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine they couldn't get a new Conrad, I'm sorry, a
Speaker 1: new Jeremiah.
Speaker 2: Bizarre because the story is just going to be about
Speaker 2: Belly and Conrad now because they're going off into the sunset.
Speaker 3: Apparently from what I.
Speaker 1: Saw, that's true. That is true. So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Most people are hoping that the movie, of course, will
Speaker 1: have the Belly and Conrad wedding. The author Jenny would
Speaker 1: not Jenny Han has not admitted that that's the case.
Speaker 1: Here's all she said. And I think this is pretty obvious.
Speaker 1: There is another big milestone left in Belly's journey, and
Speaker 1: I thought only a movie could give it its proper due.
Speaker 1: So yes, And here's another hint. So you asked me
Speaker 1: how the series differed from the book. At least in
Speaker 1: the finale, Belly goes to Spain, not France, so there
Speaker 1: is a little difference there. But the show leaves out
Speaker 1: a major part of the final book, Book three. There
Speaker 1: was an epilogue in book three, and in that epilogue,
Speaker 1: Bellie reads the letter that Conrad and Jeremiah's mother, Susannah,
Speaker 1: left for her on the day of her wedding to Conrad.
Speaker 1: So in the epilogue there is a wedding to Conrad
Speaker 1: and the letter she received from their mother before she
Speaker 1: died that we saw on the show when she was
Speaker 1: about to marry Jeremiah that she never opened in the book.
Speaker 1: She opens it when she weds Conrad. So there is
Speaker 1: an epilogue that they did not actually acknowledge.
Speaker 3: Who read the books?
Speaker 2: You're not putting anything out there, people's it's out there.
Speaker 2: I would have never known this because I never would
Speaker 2: have read the book, certainly not the epilogue the book.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I just feel like that clearly points to
Speaker 1: at least a wedding. I was actually hoping, maybe they'll show,
Speaker 1: don't say it a baby. Okay, First comes love, then
Speaker 1: comes marriage. Oh you thought maybe Jeremiah was going to
Speaker 1: roup the wedding.
Speaker 2: First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: Here, does anyone here have any reason to the back
Speaker 1: and forth?
Speaker 2: When she had that moment, I choose you. I think
Speaker 2: I might have screamed, I said, is this really about
Speaker 2: to happen? And everything?
Speaker 3: I was so upset.
Speaker 1: We screamed. I mean, we're not kidding me. We actually
Speaker 1: were screaming at the.
Speaker 2: TV the whole time. And she look runs to the
Speaker 2: window Conrad and then she runs out the door. I'm like,
Speaker 2: how she paying for a cab? She shouldn't have a phone.
Speaker 2: She shouldn't have an id.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot a lot of people have asked that question,
Speaker 1: and they said, what happened when she got to Brussels
Speaker 1: because she was on the train. And by the way,
Speaker 1: they actually shot that on a moving train, and they
Speaker 1: did shoot it in France, so that was actually you
Speaker 1: were asking about that.
Speaker 2: So the run, the whole run to the everything is
Speaker 2: a run.
Speaker 1: At the end, she said it was hilly, that she
Speaker 1: hadn't been working out, and she was actually out of
Speaker 1: breath because they really were running through the streets and
Speaker 1: then getting to this train. And then a lot of
Speaker 1: folks said, did she stay in Brussels? How did she
Speaker 1: get back? She had no money, she had no idea,
Speaker 1: she had no luggage, she didn't have a purse, she
Speaker 1: had I don't even think she had keys on because.
Speaker 3: She had nothing.
Speaker 2: It might have been nice to grab the phone because
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have had to make the run. So you
Speaker 2: had to do is call Conrad and say come.
Speaker 1: Back, or you could just say I'm coming, what train
Speaker 1: car are you in? Like you know, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of practical things that could have happened.
Speaker 2: But practical doesn't go with rom com No, for.
Speaker 1: You need the dramatic. Was there ever a moment where
Speaker 1: you thought maybe she wouldn't find him last year?
Speaker 2: Kidding on my god, there was not a moment that
Speaker 2: I didn't think they were going to end up together.
Speaker 2: And then she starts treating them bad after they have sex.
Speaker 2: She starts just dogging the guy, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Belly, that was kind of rude. It
Speaker 2: was nasty, And again it was a part of the
Speaker 2: emotional journey they're taking us on. I was so done
Speaker 2: with Belly at that moment, And now you want me
Speaker 2: and Conrad to open our arms and embrace her on
Speaker 2: the train.
Speaker 1: She was scared. He scared her When he said forever,
Speaker 1: it scared her, and then she realized she does want
Speaker 1: forever with him. All right. So, for those of you
Speaker 1: who want to know when this movie is coming out,
Speaker 1: it's not if it's when, So it's too soon for them.
Speaker 1: They said to give a release date, but they did say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we haven't even shot it yet, so it's definitely not
Speaker 1: coming next year. So a lot of people are looking
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty seven. So we have about a year
Speaker 1: and a half two years to wait for this movie.
Speaker 1: And you know that we are going to go to
Speaker 1: the movie theater and we are going to see it.
Speaker 3: It'll release on Amazon.
Speaker 2: It'll be fine, and I hope everybody no this is
Speaker 2: there is no criticism we have with the show. We
Speaker 2: respect it's phenomenal. We're having fun here talking about any
Speaker 2: criticism of Ron Common and all that stuff. But it's
Speaker 2: just it's fun and it was a formula and look,
Speaker 2: I've had a good time. And you know, it's a
Speaker 2: weird way to find something that you normally don't have
Speaker 2: somebody in common with, something to talk about. We don't
Speaker 2: talk to kids about the kids about TikTok videos and
Speaker 2: all this stuff. But we all get together and we
Speaker 2: have fun talking about this.
Speaker 3: This has been a great, great exercise.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I appreciate Summer I Turn Pretty and Team
Speaker 2: Conray Go.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you were willing to watch with me
Speaker 1: and watch with us. It has been fun, it really
Speaker 1: and like there isn't a lot of even though it
Speaker 1: was a little cheesy and predictable, there isn't a lot
Speaker 1: out there where we can all watch together and have
Speaker 1: fun and feel good about it. So this was this
Speaker 1: was fun. I think that's the best way to describe it.
Speaker 3: One another thing annoyed me. You were his surprise on
Speaker 3: the train.
Speaker 2: Oh right, she's making a total commotion coming through the train.
Speaker 2: He didn't notice all the commotion and he's surprised.
Speaker 1: Maybe he had his air pods in he didn't.
Speaker 3: I looked.
Speaker 1: All right. And on that final note, we hope you
Speaker 1: enjoyed it as much as we did. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for listening to us. Everyone, we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: real soon.