1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: My husband got a second wife because I was infertile. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: But now I'm pregnant. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: What do I do? 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 3: Wait a second wife because are number two moments or 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: number two? 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: I think we're going to find out. 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about the second wife because of 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: infertility kind of deal. They need a baby. You know 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: what they say, happy wives, happy lives. 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Bingo plural, specifically true emphasis on that. So I'm from 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: a culture where it's okay for a husband to have 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: up to four wives, although it's not often done. 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: What is it? Is it Mormons? Mormons? It's gotta be Mormons, 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: or or I mean in some Muslim cultures. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: Right, I'm almost positive it's is long? 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah. 17 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Now, when my husband and I got married, he said 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: he only ever wanted me. We got along great, and 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: we fell in love soon after the wedding. This was 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: an arranged marriage, Okay. After trying for a child for 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: a long time, we found out that I had diminished 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: ovarian reserves and we would not get pregnant and IVF 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: would most likely be futile round after futile rounds. So 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, it's trough. You know you could do 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: you could do IVF, but. 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: Like it's not gonna work. 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: Probably probably not, nothing's gonna happen. 28 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: He to just keep going, And yeah, I was absolutely heartbroken. 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I could not bear his children for him, he was 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: more okay with this than I was. We discussed and 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: reached the decision together for him to have a second 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: wife as long as she would be a good. 33 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Fit for his life. 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's so. It's that's such a like conversation or 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: like conversation to me, that's like very interesting. 36 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: And they were expecting monogamy, like they had no plans whatsoever. 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: Of like do you have another wedding? Do you say 38 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: like you may now kiss the bride? These are other 39 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: bride there, These are question standing there. Do they do 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: a three way kiss? I imagine they have three ways? 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: I imagine they do have a wedding. 42 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: I love how to like she's like surprised that he's 43 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: not heartbroken, like like I'm like, oh, like like my 44 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: man's like, you know, it'll be tough. It somehow we can. 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Somehow, I guess I guess we can. We can give it, 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: give it a go. 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: It's not heartbroken at all. It's just like doing secret 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: fist bumps. 49 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Now, for example, would she be okay with living together 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: with his first wife. 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: Me. 52 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Our religion says the second wife has rights to her 53 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: own place if she wants, and we didn't want to 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: rush anything. And I actually found a woman who was interested, 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: and I introduced her to my husband. She's being proactive 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: over here. Wow, she's getting the job done. So my 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: husband and his new wife got on well, and I 58 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: didn't have much jealousy, and things were great. 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Things were, Things were rolling along here. They got married 61 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: and we all lived together. 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: And sounds that they got married. 63 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: They got married. 64 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but she didn't get married. 65 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: No, no, no, she. 66 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Does not get married to them, but he marries. It's 67 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: like the guy is married to the wives. Ocatually they 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: got married and we all lived together while they were 69 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: ups and down. I was at first, like any marriage. 70 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: My husband and I had them as well. Eventually things 71 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: were awesome. We lived together and our husband treats us 72 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: both excellently. She soon became pregnant and we were all 73 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: super excited. Her pregnancy was hard, but I looked after her, 74 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: and when the baby came, I was also a mother 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: and loved this child like my very own. And we 76 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: were all getting along so well. She now has a 77 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: four and a two year old with my husband. When 78 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: we discussed our feelings once, she said she feels secure 79 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: because she's been able to give my husband children, and 80 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: I feel secure because I'm his first wife. However, I 81 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: just found out that I am eight weeks pregnant. After 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: all the stuff that she went. 83 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Through, that seems like it complicates no IVF. 84 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: They got a second wife, and now finally she's pregnant. 85 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: This God, the IVF didn't work. The second wife did work. 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Now what terrible timing. 87 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I never expected this to happen, and I really am 88 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: so happy, but I'm terrified of how this is going 89 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: to change our relationship dynamic. I'm scared she will be 90 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: hurt or our household might be split into two households, 91 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and then I'll have to get my husband fifty percent 92 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: of the time with a newborn. I really don't want 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: to hurt the co wife. I don't want to ruin 94 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: the family dynamic, and I feel pressure all the time, 95 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: and I haven't yet told my husband or my co wife. 96 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Please I really need advice. I feel so bad for her. 97 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: She's like I also like I am probably the least 98 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: qualified person to give advice on this relationship. No, like 99 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: I have no like, how do you give advice here? Like, 100 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: I have no idea how polygamous relationships work. I have 101 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: no idea about the dynamics my like, in my suspicion 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: is is actually not that big of an issue, Like 103 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: I think it's it's not going to really change the 104 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: dynamic that much. 105 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's like we all have anxieties and 106 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: things that like in our own heads seem like. 107 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the worst of things in the world. 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: But it sounds like her husband the co wife are 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: both completely reasonable, understanding, loving, like they they've worked through 110 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: all of these scenarios like together. 111 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so why would anything change here? Like it's it 112 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: sounds like they have a great relationship with each other. 113 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be fine. But I'm just fascinated. 114 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: Like now I'm like, dude, I want to read more 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: relationship stories about other cultures. Yeah, because this is like 116 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: like I've that is Yeah, that is an interesting thread 117 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 3: to go on. I've literally never heard of anything like this. Yeah, 118 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: Like I know, I'm so Also, I mean, have you 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: read sex at Down before? So like that it's it's 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: a book about like sex and relationships, and they talk 121 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: about how the default state of humans is to be polygamous, 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: but within a the context of like a group of people, 123 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: and that that that are not sorry, not polyamorous. I 124 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: always get those two mixed up, right, But. 125 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: How dare you? 126 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: I continue? But like the sex would actually maintain bonds 127 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: between members of the of the group and instead of 128 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: child bearing or instead of like like raising children, and 129 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: instead of a one mother raising children, the group would 130 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: raise their children, and so it was the group's children 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: rather than like a single one cup person children. 132 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: And is that like kind of hunter gatherer times? Hey, 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 2: we ever pack? We travel together, like exactly kids together. 134 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: And I feel like this is like the closest modern 135 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: day equivalent to a relationship that is like that. Although 136 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: I feel like this relationship is in terms of power dynamics, 137 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: it's not as equal because it's like only the man, 138 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: only the man. Yeah, so I feel like the power 139 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: dynamic is a little bit off from the one hundred 140 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: gathered days, but still fascinating, and it's cool that it's 141 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: like working for them. 142 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like some people, like people do have 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: polyamorous relationships out there. It's crazy that it's illegal and 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: criminalized in North and South America, including all fifty states 145 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I had. 146 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 147 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: That's wild, the institution of I mean, we just let 148 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: like gay people get married. This is true. 149 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: This is true, except for Utah Utah's out here. They're like, sir, 150 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: you don't have a felony. Here's a parking ticket, Keith. 151 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: It's for those, it's for those Mormons, those keeping on baby. 152 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: And there's an update. 153 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: Oh, there's an updates. 154 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone who's taken the time to reply. 155 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: It is really warm to my heart to see such 156 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: kind hearted replies, and also that I've had people from 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: other cultures to talk about it in an understanding. 158 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: Way, which is so sweet. 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 160 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: I've decided to have a talk with my husband and 161 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: co wife about it, and they're optimistic and incited. Final 162 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: update husband and co wife know. Sorry didn't reply to everyone, 163 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: but I promised to read everyone's posts. Although there have 164 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: been some up and downs, overall, things are good and 165 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: my husband and co wife are happy for me. Happy endings, dude, 166 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: it worked out there. 167 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: We go