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Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here, got the Heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark

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Speaker 4: In Bulk.

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Speaker 5: What's up, guys, I disagree with what Zumwalt said. Uh well,

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Speaker 5: I think you are responsible Dan for when bad things

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Speaker 4: Like why just why do you like them?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: I love? I love Dolphins fans. They are so mad

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Speaker 6: I feel like you go out of your way to

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Speaker 4: Doesn't matter what I said.

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Speaker 5: I was talking about them, and it encourages them because

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Speaker 5: no matter what I say, yeah, they're gonna get me off.

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Speaker 5: Just like you know, we'll consume enough like media, you know,

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Speaker 5: Twitter and podcasts and whatnot. I feel like I've heard

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Speaker 5: At some point, Dolphins fans are mad them. There's one

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Speaker 2: You know you know what myke some analysts out there

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Speaker 4: Let's start there.

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Speaker 5: What's a good starting point when Sunday in the in

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Speaker 3: Be a good one.

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Speaker 4: And just beat the Cowboys. I feel like that. And

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Speaker 4: I'll be like, but just wait till the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they get all that again. Oh it's

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Speaker 3: so unfair. Please good I'll tell you about unfair.

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Speaker 7: Good ball team, good ball club.

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Speaker 3: About four plays into week one. That's unfair.

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Speaker 6: That is the signature element of a country that has

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Speaker 4: That we're spending time on that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, save it for the war podcast, uh, Mark? And no, right,

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Speaker 2: I know you want to come in with something about

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 4: Here we go in a row. Now, let's let's avoid

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Speaker 5: Old Patrick out zone of interest hive out there. Great

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Speaker 5: movie really sticks with you a hive. I just heard

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Speaker 3: Good. I'm so happy. Keep it up.

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Speaker 2: Greg, Let's go for the ultimate streak. Let's go with

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Speaker 2: the Joe DiMaggio Nazi streak on this. You brought it up,

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Speaker 2: Yes, Welcome to Around the NFL Week seventeen. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get into the previews and just a reminder, this

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Speaker 2: is our Thursday tripleheader.

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Speaker 3: We have a what you're gonna get here?

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Speaker 2: We got later on tonight Jets Browns Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 2: with Greg and Chris Westling's brother Nick Westling.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: And also the Dreamatorium is alive on NFL Plus. Let's

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Speaker 6: I mean, like I we asked after that Bills game

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Speaker 6: Like I would say, David Montgomery, if I were to

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Speaker 6: Jamiir Gibbs has been part of one of the best

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Speaker 6: I think that's a disrespectful to a Detroit team that

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Speaker 2: Well, the Lions went out even shut out everything else

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Speaker 2: In fact, they've been just not just winning at home

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Speaker 2: They have a plus one seventy one one seventy one

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Speaker 3: So, as much as Detroit is a great story and

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Speaker 2: We're all rooting for them as a graduate of the

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Speaker 3: No, I think the Cowboy's gonna have a big week here.

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Speaker 5: One answer could be Chauncey Gardner Johnson though, and so

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Speaker 5: These are the twenty fourth and twenty fifth defenses in

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Speaker 5: coaching job this Ye're like, let's see it. This Cowboys

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Speaker 7: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I like the the five and a half points for

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Speaker 5: they barely get this win, Tyron Smith's not practicing like

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be panicking.

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Speaker 6: About them, nor am I like and I'm not panicking

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Speaker 7: Wait wait, wait, wait, they gotta win.

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Speaker 4: Why why does that make feel differently? Because they lower

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Speaker 2: To score and they can't get a big stop and

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Speaker 7: Here's why.

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Speaker 5: Because Dolphins and Cowboys to me were pretty evenly matched

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Speaker 7: I said, those are two even teams. So I just

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Speaker 4: I think it is.

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Speaker 6: It matters that Jonathan Hankins is not being avail for Dallas.

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Speaker 6: Like he's kind of someone that you don't really talk

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Speaker 6: beaten up by Buffalo, they were beaten up on third

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 4: It's like if you're the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: You kind of need to change perception and go take

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Speaker 6: them as complete frauds.

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Speaker 4: That's not what happened.

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Speaker 4: Set the table day.

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Speaker 3: What happened there?

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Speaker 5: That's and they continue They proceed to walk them through

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Speaker 4: I should have been walking out there. I'm from Charlotte.

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Speaker 5: That was immediately after the game to put it contact.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't during the week, Yes, before his suspension. Unlikely, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: It feels like it never one thing.

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Speaker 2: A crazy I'm not going down like ranting grumpy sports

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Speaker 3: For him, it's just not a good look.

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Speaker 2: He's also wearing sunglasses that maybe Britney Spears was wearing

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Speaker 5: He's not been available for them for he just returned

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Speaker 4: Episode is this. Yeah, but when that's that fair, that's

446
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Speaker 4: that fair.

447
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Speaker 2: We just just came down from Madison behind the glass,

448
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Speaker 2: the Vikings are starting the rookie Greg Darren Hall.

449
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Speaker 7: I think it's the way to go.

450
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Speaker 5: He looked good on that one drives like.

451
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Speaker 4: Been turned off by two quarterbacks at this point, two.

452
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Speaker 2: Capable and and Nick Mallins is so frustrated because I

453
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Speaker 2: could carve up this defense, then maybe we'll see him.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a little shocky, and I think it shows

455
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Speaker 5: you that as much as the Vikings would like to

456
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Speaker 5: make the playoffs and actually have a great chance to

457
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Speaker 5: make the place if they went out they're in essentially though,

458
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Speaker 5: that's if they went out there BA basically in. I

459
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Speaker 5: think they're saying, as much as we want to do that,

460
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Speaker 5: we don't know if that's going to happen or not.

461
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Speaker 7: Like we want to see what Jaron Hall can look

462
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Speaker 7: like too.

463
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Speaker 5: And the advantage if there is any advantage to Nick Mullins,

464
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Speaker 5: it's not enough that we want to pass unseen Mark.

465
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Speaker 2: You could see him in the second half potentially you

466
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Speaker 2: never know out hope.

467
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Speaker 6: We're it's one of these scenes where you're going to

468
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Speaker 6: probably see all of them all over. I mean, if

469
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Speaker 6: there were more weeks to the season. Thankfully only two

470
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Speaker 6: more of for the king and as.

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Speaker 2: Much as it feels like it's over for the team

472
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Speaker 2: of eighten, this has been a weird, weird year.

473
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Speaker 3: Maybe the Vikings have a push.

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Speaker 6: Has this gone any better than the last time we

475
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Speaker 6: picked the Vikings? I would for you for me because

476
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Speaker 6: I'm not culpable.

477
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Speaker 7: Yes, that was howere of a disass call? Think we

478
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Speaker 7: picked them at like five.

479
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Speaker 4: And oh and they immediately lost right, Yeah, they tanked

480
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Speaker 4: hard and Mark took it as a personal front to

481
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Speaker 4: him and was yes for seven months.

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Speaker 6: Because it's like NonStop text being like, well I wasn't

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Speaker 6: part of that vote.

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Speaker 2: It's like, in some ways you're coupable for this too,

485
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Speaker 2: because you're a Josh Dobbs thing.

486
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Speaker 3: But it's fine.

487
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Speaker 6: That is you want to come about listening to previous

488
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Speaker 6: tapes like that's entirely true.

489
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Speaker 3: It was Dobbs that pushed it over the top, and

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Speaker 3: he was your.

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Speaker 4: I won't listen to Greg. You have to back me

492
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Speaker 4: on this, what about evidence?

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Speaker 7: In fact, Dobbs was the reason we picked the Viking.

494
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm not the reason we picked the Vikings

495
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Speaker 6: mostly Mark, in my opinion.

496
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Speaker 4: I find that to be annoying.

497
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Speaker 3: I know it is all right, let's get to the draft.

498
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Speaker 2: It is time now for the first overall pick presented

499
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Speaker 2: by Draft Kings, and I will take this an easy one.

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Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins at the Baltimore Ravens. This is a

501
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Speaker 2: early game, interesting, interesting time slot for the game.

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Speaker 4: But it's you know, unrewarding.

503
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of you know what, I don't mind

504
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Speaker 2: it about a hammer drop early game. We don't have

505
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Speaker 2: many of those, so it's a nice little change of pace.

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Speaker 7: In theory.

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Speaker 5: They could have flexed out Bengals Chiefs, which would have

508
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Speaker 5: been nice, but a week ago, I get why they

509
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Speaker 5: didn't do that.

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Speaker 6: God forbid, we don't have Tony Romo talking about Patrick

511
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Speaker 6: Mahomes for another four and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are given three points here and in a

513
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Speaker 2: good spotlight here for Iron Eagle and our guy Charles

514
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Speaker 2: Davis with Evan Washburn looking impeccable on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: So good matchup here, great matchup, and.

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Speaker 2: At this point it is hard to look at the

517
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Speaker 2: Ravens and say they're not going to win a big

518
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Speaker 2: game because they've done it over and over and over,

519
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Speaker 2: and you know, coming off the way they played against

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: I guess they seg into a different.

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Speaker 2: Place now, Greg, because now they are no longer going

523
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Speaker 2: to be the team. I don't think that is putting

524
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Speaker 2: up win after win after win, but is kind of

525
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Speaker 2: seen as a little lesser than Now you're the big boys.

526
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Speaker 2: And you heard Lamar talked about it this week that

527
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Speaker 2: you know we're still the underdogs. We're still the underdogs,

528
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Speaker 2: but they're not. They're very much the favorite, and I

529
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Speaker 2: think the at least in the AFC, and the Dolphins

530
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Speaker 2: have a chance here. And Dolphins fans listen up, like,

531
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Speaker 2: if you want to shut up people who you think

532
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Speaker 2: hate your team like me, which I don't really hate them,

533
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Speaker 2: but if you want to shut people like us up, wow, wow,

534
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Speaker 2: you have a chance to wrap up your division and

535
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Speaker 2: stun the Ravens coming off the Niners whin. It's a

536
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Speaker 2: nice setup for Miami to make a true statement right.

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Speaker 5: And try to get that one seed for themselves. And

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Speaker 5: they're not viewed, you know, in the desert by as

539
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Speaker 5: big underdogs. It's only a three point line, which is

540
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Speaker 5: pretty interesting in Baltimore minus one to eighty money line

541
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Speaker 5: the over unders forty seven. I am surprised by that

542
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Speaker 5: but I think the rest is part of it. They're

543
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Speaker 5: coming back from the West Coast, little resttop action on

544
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Speaker 5: a short week a huge win. Dolphins have that extra

545
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Speaker 5: day arrest and everything. But to see these teams as equal,

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Speaker 5: I think is surprising, because yes, they're trying to build

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Speaker 5: this underdog.

548
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Speaker 7: Mentality where you know, blah blah blah blah.

549
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Speaker 5: It's like but according to the numbers, like DVOA, for instance,

550
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Speaker 5: has had the forty nine Ers and the Ravens as

551
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Speaker 5: two of the best twenty teams of the last twenty

552
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Speaker 5: five years, basically the whole season. Now the Ravens are

553
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Speaker 5: actually ahead on top of the ring. It's like both

554
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Speaker 5: of them have been elite, elite teams forty nine Ers,

555
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Speaker 5: Ravens and pretty far away from the rest of the NFL,

556
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Speaker 5: including the Miami Dolphins. I do wonder if it's an

557
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Speaker 5: advantage or a disadvantage for Mike McDaniel to look at

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Speaker 5: that forty nine Ers tape. And yes, the Dolphins and

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Speaker 5: forty nine Ers do things quite differently in terms of

560
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Speaker 5: how they win, how their quarterbacks win offensively. But essentially,

561
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Speaker 5: here's the offense that we're most similar to. The coach

562
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Speaker 5: I'm most similar to here's what the Ravens did with

563
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Speaker 5: their disguised coverages and everything and winning physical, physical matchups

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Speaker 5: against them. How can I adjust what the forty nine

565
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Speaker 5: ers did poorly and make it work for me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're I think that's absolutely right.

567
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Speaker 6: Where it's like, yes, you can't just say what Mike

568
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Speaker 6: McDaniel is doing is the same as Kyle shanahan. But

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Speaker 6: there are a lot of roots and shared DNA there.

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Speaker 6: This game to me, boils down to availability. I think

571
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Speaker 6: it's very impactful that Kyle Hamilton has not been practicing

572
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Speaker 6: this week. I think he has been a huge piece

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Speaker 6: of what Baltimore's done on defense. Patrick Queen is banged up,

574
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Speaker 6: Rokwan Smith is banged up. Is A Flowers did not

575
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Speaker 6: practice on Wednesday for the Dolphins. Jalen Waddle did not

576
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Speaker 6: practice today on Thursday's right, and they're calling it not

577
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Speaker 6: overly severe. So it's like there's a chance he plays,

578
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Speaker 6: But what version do you get? Tyreek Hill is practicing

579
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Speaker 6: today on Thursday? Devant a Chant is practicing today. It's

580
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Speaker 6: like the Dolphins, like Tron Armstead has like eighty two injuries.

581
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Speaker 4: It's like their injury list has.

582
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Speaker 6: Just been wild and so it's like, I think this

583
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Speaker 6: is such an intriguing matchup, but it really comes down

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Speaker 6: to who is on the field and what percentage of

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Speaker 6: health they have.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was really interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, we played it on the last show, but

588
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Speaker 2: I want to play it again here because it wasn't

589
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Speaker 2: hard to decode which teams. Patrick Queen was talking about

590
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Speaker 2: when in the aftermafter the Niners victory, he pointed out

591
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Speaker 2: what makes the Ravens different.

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Speaker 9: Play a brand football and people don't want to play.

593
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Speaker 9: Everybody want to be out here Q playing about football

594
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Speaker 9: and grass and stuff. I mean, we ain't with all that.

595
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Speaker 9: So you could do all that stuff. You just gonna

596
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Speaker 9: hit in THEMUF ever play honestly, you know, we get

597
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Speaker 9: care of this boy. All the pred stuff you do,

598
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Speaker 9: gammixed stuff, you just out. You still have a line

599
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Speaker 9: of play football. You still going to get touch. So

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Speaker 9: that's how Mind said, that's how we want to come

601
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Speaker 9: out and just you know, hit people in the.

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Speaker 2: Month, and that is what's going to happen, uh with

603
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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, who are going to take it to

604
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Speaker 2: the Dolphins, humble their fans. I'm locking up the Baltimore

605
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Speaker 2: Ravens in this game. I think they're a perfect matches

606
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Speaker 2: and as good as the Dolphins season has been, I

607
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Speaker 2: think this is a bad matchup for them, and I

608
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Speaker 2: think the Ravens are going to bully this offense and

609
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Speaker 2: come away with another resounding win.

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Speaker 6: I think, like what Patrick Queen said also bags into

611
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Speaker 6: like the Lamar Jackson MVP conversation where it's like he's

612
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Speaker 6: his numbers don't blow you away, but you can't question

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Speaker 6: his value. Like I was looking at Nick Schuk's QB

614
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Speaker 6: index and he has and tell me, if you agree

615
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Speaker 6: with this number one to a number two Lamar, number three,

616
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Speaker 6: Dak it.

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Speaker 3: Is too and number one is yes, you'd be in yes.

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Speaker 7: But isn't that top five?

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Speaker 4: Really? I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me let me go.

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Speaker 6: You have to also you'd have to move Josh Allen

622
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Speaker 6: or Matthew Stafford out of there, or Jalen Hurts comes

623
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Speaker 6: at six.

624
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Speaker 4: But like to me, it's like wow, like Lamar is not.

625
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Speaker 6: It's a weird year for MVP obviously with the quarterbacks,

626
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Speaker 6: like I would just go Christian McCaffrey at this point,

627
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Speaker 6: but like you can argue that Lamar, like figures and

628
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 6: stats wise, isn't that guy, but he is based on

629
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Speaker 6: everything that he's done over the last ten or eleven weeks.

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Speaker 4: And it's like we're getting these schedules.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I don't like this, is that that

632
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Speaker 6: this is baked into like a ten games happening, you know,

633
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Speaker 6: early in the day in Los Angeles. Is that like

634
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Speaker 6: this is another one of these MVP showdown games we're

635
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Speaker 6: getting the week after week and like we're reacting off

636
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Speaker 6: of what we saw literally twenty four hours ago, and

637
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Speaker 6: the vote keeps changing.

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Speaker 5: You know what, now that Mahomes has taken a step back,

639
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Speaker 5: I probably would have it Alan if like I was

640
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Speaker 5: doing QBA, I'd probably have it like Alan Lamar either

641
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Speaker 5: one or two, those two, Dak Fair, and I would

642
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Speaker 5: have l Stafford and Purdy four and five probably, but

643
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Speaker 5: to of might be in there.

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Speaker 6: They're all close. Uh yeah, Like so I know it's

645
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Speaker 6: tough for you. Don't think two is top five?

646
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Speaker 5: Well yeah, that's just what I just said. He's either

647
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Speaker 5: five or six. So but who who is he deaf?

648
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Speaker 5: Out of those? I think it's all close. I mean

649
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Speaker 5: Stafford I think is in that mix. I think Purdy

650
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Speaker 5: is in that mix. He's got Baker Mayfield number eight.

651
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Speaker 5: I think Dak's been amazing.

652
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Speaker 7: That's wow. That's a big drop from the top six.

653
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Speaker 7: That is uh wild.

654
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Speaker 5: I am a little worried about this matchup as as

655
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Speaker 5: someone who's locked up the Ravens five times and definitely

656
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Speaker 5: rooting for them, because number one, where's the weakness in

657
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Speaker 5: the Baltimore Devens.

658
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Speaker 7: It's definitely at cornerback.

659
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Speaker 5: I know Marlon Humphrey's playing better lately, but their cornerback's

660
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Speaker 5: gonna beaten.

661
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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: This is a tough matchup for their cornerback number two.

663
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Speaker 5: I as much as Lamar played great, very well on

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Speaker 5: Monday Night, I do worry a little bit that their

665
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: offense has not been in rhythm lately and not a

666
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: lot of like in rhythm throws. He's broke the pocket

667
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: a lot more and you're just counting on him to improvise,

668
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: which he obviously can do, but you just would like

669
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: to see that like a little more consistently. It's there

670
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: one week, it's not the next And unlike playing the

671
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: forty nine ers, defenses is crazy. But I think the

672
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 5: Dolphins are have been a better defense last two months.

673
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: They've been like Baltimore, an explosive offense and a top

674
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: five defense that can win games in different sorts of ways.

675
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: And I think you saw that last week. So I

676
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: am a little worried about it. But I'm locking it

677
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 5: up too. I already had.

678
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 6: Locked in, and I don't than just let's go back

679
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 6: to the team that has has gotten me, yes.

680
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: And and just to counter punch to all that, which

681
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: is all.

682
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be close, Like it's not a lot.

683
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: Only one of these teams smoke the forty nine ers

684
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: in San Francisco like three or four days ago, So

685
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: like the Ravens, I just think they're at another level right.

686
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: Now in a way that almost sometimes those worrying me

687
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: because it is so hard to stay at that level

688
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 5: back to back weeks.

689
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 7: We just saw it with the Bills.

690
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: It's like the Bills followed up You're gonna be cowboy

691
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: and you get florioed?

692
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: What Lamar Jackson Mike Florio and his postgame press conference.

693
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 7: Why am I bury? I just locked them up.

694
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying they're looking for any type of motivation and

695
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: people doubting them, Well, so you are kind of he

696
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: was locking up a team that you're doubting a little bit.

697
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: I wasn't worried about I didn't know about that Floria thing.

698
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: It to cover the bar threw it out, but he

699
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 5: did say that they were god that they wouldn't even

700
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: like be like worthy of beat on the field I've

701
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: ever they were going to get totally smooth at Floria,

702
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: Like okay.

703
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: Gloria wood Doors the entire concept of what's happening.

704
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 7: To stay aggressive.

705
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Speaker 5: By the way, John Harbor, I really don't like this

706
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: new super conservative unfourd down John Harbor.

707
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Speaker 2: Floria had a very dignified, extensive tweet response as well,

708
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: like a like a man who just lost a presidential election,

709
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Speaker 2: like it was like a concession speech.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's keep moving here, we gotta we gotta

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Speaker 4: pick up the pace.

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Speaker 3: Mark you're up.

718
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Speaker 6: So I'm looking at the slate early and late, and

719
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Speaker 6: what I see you over and over like quality team

720
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: versus floating trash bag.

721
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Speaker 4: And so for me, it's like, I want to see how.

722
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Speaker 2: When you say floating trash bag, do you mean like

723
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Speaker 2: the beautiful kind from that movie American Beauty or just

724
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 2: an actual No.

725
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Speaker 6: Less that was artistic, That was artistic and beautiful, very nineties.

726
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: Yes, a little that was artistic.

727
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 6: This was more like you're driving down the highway and

728
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: there's a trash bag. It's gonna end up in the ocean. Sure,

729
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 6: it's gonna clog things up into a problem. That's the

730
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 6: seagull is gonna choke on it. We're ready for it

731
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Speaker 6: to go away, and we're ready for sattist.

732
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Speaker 5: Movie inspires one of Dan's least favorite things when movies

733
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 5: don't hold up well, because that movie did not does

734
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: not hold up.

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Speaker 4: It's got some problems, you know what, including some of

736
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Speaker 4: its actors. Guess what the stars. I here's a take.

737
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm pushing back on the take that it's has an

738
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Speaker 2: age girl watch it recently.

739
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Speaker 6: Fun fine, it's also where you're at, like in a

740
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: way like maybe at age twelve pounds back because mine

741
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: was like seven years ago.

742
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: It's become like the prevailing sentiment that it's terrible and

743
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: now it's terrible coming back around.

744
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Speaker 4: Okay, Wes Bentley, you know who kind of ruins it though, Yeah, Spacey, Yeah,

745
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: well that's hard to it's it's tough to get up.

746
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: The criticism around it hasn't been about him being a creep.

747
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: It's been that the movie is heavy handed and and

748
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: all that.

749
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Speaker 3: It's a great performance though.

750
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Speaker 6: Right, all right, we're good with that. Greg's betting amazing.

751
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 6: Yeah for you, Greg U. I will take San Francisco

752
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 6: at Washington. Maybe it seems curious, but I really actually

753
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 6: And then San Francisco is giving up twelve and a

754
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: half points, uh, which does not That feels fine to me.

755
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 6: I have no problem with that money line minus seven

756
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 6: fifty for the Niners over under of fifty.

757
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: That's a high over runner.

758
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 6: But I think that to me felt like a little

759
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: bit of a Jacobe Prissette factor there, because he's been

760
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 6: actually really great for them two weeks in a row,

761
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 6: and he's gonna start sam all these samhow experience might

762
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: be over forever in Washington, we know the head coaching

763
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 6: experience will be over. I mean, I think the whole

764
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 6: team blew it, but he he was spicy. If nothing else,

765
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Speaker 6: I want to see how San Francisco responds. I don't

766
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 6: have a problem with the idea. They're probably going to

767
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: come and blow Washington's doors off, But this is one

768
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: of the few teams. It's a pet team to me.

769
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: Trent Williams is still banged up with a groin injury,

770
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel's banged up. So I wonder if you're San Francisco, like,

771
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 6: do you push these guys into action, do you use

772
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel as much as you would normally, or do

773
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Speaker 6: you try to get out of here with a win.

774
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Speaker 4: It still matters.

775
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 6: They're still fighting for that number one overall spot in

776
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Speaker 6: the NFC.

777
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: You cannot let up the Niners.

778
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Speaker 6: I think have a This is a statement game in

779
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 6: a way for them to turn around after what happened

780
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 6: on national television that completely altered the MVP race, completely

781
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 6: altered people's confidence in the Niners, which I think is

782
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 6: a little bit over baked.

783
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Speaker 7: I don't I don't know if I agree with that.

784
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 7: I think if it.

785
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Speaker 6: Would alter the MVP race, yes, but entirely I suspect.

786
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 5: You know, they're heavy, heavy favorites to make the Super Bowl.

787
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 5: That hasn't changed in most people and I don't think

788
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: you can make it no matter what they do here.

789
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: Possibly they're not making a statement this week.

790
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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, come out, and like their version

791
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 6: of a statement has dropped forty points on this time.

792
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Speaker 4: Sure, I wouldn't heard anything about them, though.

793
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Speaker 5: I think I think I'd like to see it, just

794
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 5: because I want to see them playing their best at

795
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: the end of the season and looking looking like they've

796
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: looked they need to.

797
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 7: They really want to get that one seed.

798
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Speaker 5: They haven't had those home games in the big spots

799
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 5: the NFC Championship enough. Uh, They've They've really missed Uric Armstead.

800
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Speaker 5: I think the last couple of weeks, we don't know

801
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: if he's going to return their their offensive line. To me,

802
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: when especially when Trent Williams is out obvious, it's it's

803
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: like it it went from being like very good to

804
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: a problem and that's something that's not going to be

805
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 5: tested this week because there's no worse pass rush in

806
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 5: the league than Washington. I mean, they made the Jets

807
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 5: offensive line look like, you know, like the early nineties

808
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: Cowboys last week, so I mean it's a standing back then.

809
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: So it's like I'm with you, especially when the forty

810
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: nine ers have the ball. I don't feel like I'm

811
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: learning much, you know what, I like a lot because

812
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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the NFC is a little more saucing

814
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: after that blowout loss in terms of intrigue. I'm already

815
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: looking ahead and maybe maybe you get a flat Niners

816
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: performance because they're doing the same to the Rams. There's

817
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of like two thousand and seven week

818
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: seventeen Giants Patriots vive there where the Rams could make

819
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Speaker 2: like one last big statement before the playoffs if they

820
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Speaker 2: are to get there. Yeah, and the Niners are just

821
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: trying to lock up a big win to get where

822
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: they need to be number one seed potentially, so it

823
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Speaker 2: you know, I think they're going to be favored obviously

824
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: each of the next two weeks because they're still rightfully

825
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: seen as one of the best teams in the league.

826
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: But they were humbled and it's gonna be interesting, I guess,

827
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: to see how they react to that.

828
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Speaker 6: I cannot stand the MVP derby. Don't talk about it,

829
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 6: don't worry about it about it, because like I can

830
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Speaker 6: go find a game or two where Lamar Jackson like underperformed,

831
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 6: but it happened months ago, and so it's like.

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Speaker 2: That matters, context matters, Christmas all about.

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Speaker 4: What you do.

834
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Speaker 6: Like, as we get closer, he didn't have a four

835
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Speaker 6: pick game against another one of the big tests that that.

836
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 7: He did not.

837
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: I mean, he melted down against Cleveland in one game.

838
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: But that's it. Your guy can still win.

839
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Speaker 4: I don't think he can.

840
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 7: He's the third and four so favorite right now.

841
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: I think he couldn't even be the number one on

842
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 6: the Niners right now.

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00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 5: Well, I've thought it was McCaffrey all along. I think

844
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: that's I think that's a totally legitimate thing, looking at

845
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 5: their offense and just how it's built.

846
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 7: But all right, just needs to hope that Lamar loses.

847
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 4: Basically, all right, let's do one more before taking a break.

848
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Speaker 5: Greg, all right, I am unprepared here.

849
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Speaker 3: Toughie, your first pick, you're gonna get Vikings.

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 5: I'll take the Rams at the Giants. Rams are five

851
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: and a half point favorites minus two thirty money line.

852
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 5: I like the Rams to win this game. I don't

853
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 5: like the Rams to win as easily as when I

854
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: found out Tyrad Taylor's taken over.

855
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Speaker 7: I think it's a pretty big difference. I think it's

856
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 7: close to a Dalton level scale.

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: You know, starting quarterback who for the limited time he's

858
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 5: played this year, has unfurled a high amount of big

859
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: time throws. I don't know if that's going to continue

860
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: versus you know, maybe the most overmatched starting quarterback in

861
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 5: the league. So you're going on the road across the

862
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 5: country against defense which has been all over the place.

863
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: It's gone from absolutely terrible to quite good to kind

864
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 5: of back to terrible again the last couple of weeks.

865
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Speaker 7: So I don't know what to think.

866
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Speaker 5: But they are relatively healthy on defense, and it's just

867
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: another chance for Stafford in this offense to kind of

868
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 5: control the game. They have these long drives and then

869
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: suddenly when you're playing the Rams, you're like, wait a second,

870
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: it's the middle of the third quarter and we're down

871
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 5: thirteen points and we've only had the ball like six times.

872
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 5: They really have a way of shortening these games because

873
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 5: of a very efficient offense that goes on these nine

874
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: ten play drives.

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00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 6: They and when you have Cooper Cup, Puka Nakua, and

876
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 6: Karen Williams in there together, they have averaged almost thirty

877
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: points a game. It's like their offense is fully formed,

878
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Speaker 6: and I think coming into the season, I was like,

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: I looked at a team that didn't do a lot

880
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 6: along the offensive line after that was their achilles heel

881
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 6: a year ago. Since their bye, which was ages ago

882
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 6: Week ten, they had the second lowest they've allowed the

883
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 6: second lowest pressure rate. Like their line is performed, and

884
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: like they've been really healthy since their bye, and it

885
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 6: becomes this NFC team. I love your comment about like

886
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 6: the Patriots Giants end of season matchup that happened many

887
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: years ago, where it's like this RAMS team has completely changed, evolved,

888
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: grown developer over the course of the season, and it's

889
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 6: like we keep propping up different people as coach of

890
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 6: the Year. But Sean McVay is right in that conversation,

891
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 6: like this team was universally counted out as a drifting

892
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: driftwood on a dead sea before the season, and here

893
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 6: they are, and like it's like, who wants to deal

894
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 6: with them right now?

895
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that I've learned this season

896
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: is to not doubt the brain trust there at all,

897
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: because it did seem like and that was the prevailing

898
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: sentiment that they bought that Super Bowl on credit and

899
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: now they were going to go.

900
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: Into this tailspin and have to rebuild.

901
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: But the way they have developed all of these players

902
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, and you're right about

903
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: the offense, Craig is not just Matthew Stafford having a

904
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: big year or the rise of Pukainakua. Hel Cooper Cup's

905
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: not even having a big year. He's been injured a lot.

906
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: They identified a running back in the draft that became

907
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: a star. The offensive line playing at a high level,

908
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: The scheme is elite. And you tell me that the

909
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: Rams are an easy out for anyone in this league.

910
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: If they stay healthy, they are a true They're going

911
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: to be a wildcard, that is a true wild card

912
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: in January.

913
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: Well there, they couldn't have been happy seen the forty

914
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 5: nine Ers was on Monday Night, because now the forty

915
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: nine going to be starting Week eighteen, and so the

916
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 5: Rams are far from guaranteed to get into the playoffs.

917
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 6: I mean, org beat the Niners and then suddenly everyone is.

918
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Like a lot.

919
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 5: They also could clinch this week and they could rest

920
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: starters next week. All they need is to win this

921
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 5: game and the Seahawks to lose to the Steelers, which

922
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 5: is you know a reasonable thing to hope for and

923
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 5: then the Rams are in this week. I do think,

924
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: uh that it's as much as everything else matters. And

925
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: Puka's a true number one and got he was so

926
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 5: impressed with to see in person, like God, like whatever

927
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 5: the ceiling is, it's even higher than you could imagine

928
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: for this this kid. So much of it as the

929
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: Stafford improvising like you think of like Mahomes and Lamar

930
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 5: as like the top like second reaction guys in the league.

931
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: And I mean he had five plays in that game

932
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 5: that are not in the in the call sheet. He's

933
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: just improvising and he's freaking amazing at it. I don't

934
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: think he's a crazy idea for MVP.

935
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 7: I'd have him a little lower.

936
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 5: But if it was like the NBA where he voted

937
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 5: on five guys, I think he makes my top five.

938
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: Stafford, Yeah, I mean you said that Pooka is fun

939
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: to watch a person.

940
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: I imagine some.

941
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: So one where I was rolling left, we had the

942
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 5: perfect view where he was rolling left and did the

943
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: side arm stuff and I was just like trying to

944
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 5: tell Walker.

945
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 6: I was just like, do you see that, Like Stafford's

946
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 6: in that Lamar world, were like you have to ignore

947
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: the stats because he hate his like TD interception ratio

948
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 6: was just never really outstanding. But it's like what he's

949
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 6: doing physically is like this new version of.

950
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: And I think we there was an NFL plus streamatorium

951
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: mep Earliert Searson I was talked about.

952
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: It is Stafford in the Hall of Fame conversation man.

953
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: A year like this, I think has completely reframed how

954
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: special he has been. And he's actually the flip side

955
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: of And we're gonna get to the Russell Wilson drama

956
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: and the disaster that that's become for the Broncos, the

957
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: boondoggle that could have been the same thing for the

958
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: Rams if Stafford came here and couldn't play. Instead, he

959
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: kind of became a better version of himself and sustained

960
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: his play in his thirties.

961
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 3: Very interesting.

962
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 6: I'm not going to bring up MVP again on this episode.

963
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 6: I don't know why I don't. I don't know why

964
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 6: I've done that twelve times. That's it's got to be

965
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: annoying to the only one listening to Do you have

966
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 6: something else to say? No, if you're driving around, you're

967
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: probably annoying. You just brought say I'm not announcing that

968
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 6: I won't bring it up again. It's a tedious Uh.

969
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: Let's read a ban on MVP those three letters together,

970
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: Eric for the rest of the episode starting now, Let's

971
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: take a break and we'll continue on.

972
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

973
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: Right, Welcome back to Around the NFL the Week seventeen preview.

974
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: In Bulk, the snake is slithering right back door at

975
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: old Greggy.

976
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 5: I will take a late game first one off the board,

977
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: Bengals at Chiefs. Chiefs favored by seven. I don't want

978
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: to hear Mark complain about Romo and Mahomes again, so

979
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 5: you now you don't have to watch it. Money line

980
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 5: minus three oh five for the Chiefs cut kind of

981
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 5: a big favorites considering yeah, they were ted point favorites

982
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: against the Raiders and they got smacked. How broken is

983
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 5: their offense? This is another good test because the Cincinnati

984
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 5: defense has been quietly broken as well, one of the

985
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: worst groups in the league by almost any measurement, and

986
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 5: so it's two of the most disappointing sides I think

987
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: in the NFL, the Bengals defense and the Chiefs offense.

988
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: I think if you're the Bengals, you're hoping Hendrickson and

989
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: Hubbard can keep winning on the edge. You know, Janya Morris,

990
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 5: we haven't been talking about is a rookie left tackle

991
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: playing for the Chiefs or second year tackle wasn't played

992
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: much and has not been good. And so if Hendrickston

993
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: Hubbard can keep getting pressure at the tackle position, maybe

994
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 5: that sets up another long day for the Chiefs offense.

995
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean at this point, you just expect it,

996
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: right at this point, you don't you kind of know

997
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: that we were talking about this for a few weeks

998
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: now that it's changed, probably ain't coming until after the season,

999
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: but just them face planned. I thought it was just

1000
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: really interesting that with with the Mighty Mahomes and the

1001
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: great read, the fact that those turnovers happened and there

1002
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: were so much games still in front of them and

1003
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: they just couldn't adjust.

1004
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 3: They couldn't find a way to get it going.

1005
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: And at this point, and the Bengals are in must

1006
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: win territory just about here, right, Greg, I mean, they

1007
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 2: need they don't have tie breakers.

1008
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: They got to win both of them. They are not guaranteed,

1009
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 5: so they're in a deep poll.

1010
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: So you know they have they've been you know, they

1011
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: were cooled off obviously that the Pittsburgh loss really took

1012
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: a lot of air out of the balloon there and

1013
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: the idea of what they could be when they were

1014
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: riding at three game winning streak. So this is a

1015
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: game where I don't know what we're gonna get from Cincinnati,

1016
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: but I kind of do know what we're gonna get

1017
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: from Kansas City, and it will be a steady to

1018
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: very good defensive effort that could scramble Jake Browning, who's

1019
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: an up and down entity here. So I see this

1020
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: as crazy as it is, and it's a bummer because

1021
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: if you look in September, who since Sinnati at Arrowhead

1022
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: week seven to eighty. Now, I think this is going

1023
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: to be a low scoring game. I think this is

1024
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: going to be like a seventeen fourteen type game, and

1025
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: I think it's a true toss up.

1026
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1027
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 7: I wish it was Dolphins Ravens in the spot.

1028
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's that's why I don't know why they

1029
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: didn't do that. I mean, you're you're absolutely right, because

1030
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 6: like Kansas City twenty or fewer points in eight of

1031
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 6: their games, and it certainly looks like it. I do

1032
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 6: think for the for the Bengals, like it's a tough

1033
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 6: slate down the stretch. Pittsburgh's defense, Kansas City's defense, like

1034
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 6: for is disappointed as we are by the offense. Like

1035
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 6: their defense has been super consistent game after game for

1036
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: the most part. Cleveland's defense next week. So it's a

1037
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 6: rough it's a rough. It's a rough stretch. For Jake Browning.

1038
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 6: It's also a chance for him to like bring us

1039
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 6: back into the world where we believe in. I'm Jamar.

1040
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 6: Chase took part in the walkthrough. He's got a shoulder injury.

1041
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 6: I think that matters a lot because Chase and Browning

1042
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 6: have connected pretty well playoff game.

1043
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: I would expect them to be there. Put Yeah, I'm

1044
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: with you.

1045
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: I mean, Kadarius Tony's banged up for the for the Chiefs,

1046
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: Isaiah Pachecos banged up. T Higgins coming off a huge performance.

1047
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 6: So it's like, I don't I don't feel like that

1048
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 6: that the Bengals team that we loved a week ago

1049
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 6: was floated away entirely.

1050
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 4: It's just kind of like, we'll see.

1051
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 5: This is gonna be the last time we see them

1052
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: as we know it now. I think they'll tag T Higgins,

1053
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: but you know, in terms of a meaningful game.

1054
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 7: If they lose this game, they're basically done.

1055
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 5: T Higgins mixing Tyler Boyd, Joanah Williams, four guys who

1056
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 5: basically started every game throughout this run.

1057
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 7: All four might not be there next year.

1058
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 5: I feel like they'll I feel like they'll tag Higgins

1059
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: because he's just too good. But you know, this is

1060
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: the end of something with Cincinnati, which feels weird because

1061
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 5: Burrow's so young. But they're just gonna have to reload

1062
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: on the fly and figure out what was wrong this.

1063
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: Year, dream it all up again.

1064
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: Last word on this game, Let's go to the New

1065
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: Heights podcast, which is by the way, presented by Waves

1066
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Sports and Entertainment. Travis Kelce not having the year you

1067
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: expect from him, the Chiefs obviously not having the year

1068
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: he expected from them offensively, and he does that podcast

1069
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: with his brother Jason, and here are his thoughts on

1070
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: the state of their offense.

1071
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: Everybody's just got to do their job.

1072
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 10: Every single play, somebody not doing their job, and it's me,

1073
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 10: it's every one by one, it's everybody on the team.

1074
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 10: And whether that's prep, whether that's having the confidence and

1075
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 10: understanding of what the defense is in.

1076
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: Their their coverages, their gaps.

1077
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 10: And the run game, how we're picking up blitzes, how

1078
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 10: we're running routes versus certain.

1079
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Coverages, all the above, and we should bring it up

1080
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: here because you could look at that as just you know,

1081
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: cliches there.

1082
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: That we all got a man up and do our

1083
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: job and all that.

1084
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: Or he could say, like, is he talking about the

1085
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: the level of preparation and coaching with the offense as well?

1086
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: And you have obviously the enemy is not there anymore.

1087
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: Matt Naggie took on a bigger role there. Obviously read

1088
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: is the architect? Is there frustration in that building? And Greg,

1089
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: you had pointed out Rashid Rice a lot of miscommunications.

1090
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: We know Tony has had mental and physical gaffs. Is

1091
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: the offensive lines was having breakdowns? Is this a situation

1092
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: in house in Kansas City where it's like this offense

1093
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: is not being put in position forget about just the

1094
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: skill level put in position to be successful on Sundays?

1095
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 6: He like he's their leading receiver because they don't have

1096
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: a leading receiver.

1097
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: Well normally in this situation, it offensive coordinator leaves and

1098
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 5: you turn from a very buttoned up unit to one

1099
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 5: of the sloppiest units in the league by any measurement,

1100
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 5: it would people would be going crazy about the offensive

1101
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: coordinator change. I think it's confusing because Andy reads the

1102
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 5: head coach, But I think it's totally fair to wonder

1103
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: like Eric Benemy leaves, Matt Naggie comes on, and suddenly

1104
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 5: they don't look very well coached.

1105
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: Great, there's always part of the reason why, I think

1106
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: the enemy or one of the reasons he didn't get

1107
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: a head coaching job. It was always very nebulous about

1108
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: what he was actually doing. And then even we talked

1109
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: about it over the summer. That NFL Quarterback show you

1110
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: would see during their Super Bowl run last year, it

1111
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: was Naggy that was very involved on the sideline on

1112
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: a game play by play basis, and you're always like,

1113
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: where is the enemy? Well, right now they're asking where

1114
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: is the offense and where is the flow to it?

1115
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: And the basic fundamentals is what Kelsey is also getting at.

1116
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: Why aren't we playing at a high level? That's crazy?

1117
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: All right?

1118
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: Mark back to you, all right?

1119
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 6: Taking another early game Saints at Bucks, intriguing the Bucks.

1120
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: Basically that would have been a good number two pick,

1121
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: but you ended up getting it all worked out.

1122
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 6: Sure, Well, that's how the draft works sometimes. It just

1123
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know why. I'm sort of stunned

1124
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 6: that Greg didn't take his Saints, But that's okay.

1125
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 4: I'll report to you what I've.

1126
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 5: They have not been my Saints for many years. Here,

1127
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: I'm rooting box Let's go win a division.

1128
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: That's the thing. They're in it they win and they.

1129
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 7: They are taking the game just because of that.

1130
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: Aren't we rooting for them to win this division? Like?

1131
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 4: How can you make an argument for anyone else?

1132
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: The only team that's like a deadbeat, it's been like.

1133
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 6: The best version of themselves for a while, and it

1134
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 6: starts with Baker Mayfield. And I think there's like a

1135
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 6: really specific historical A lot of these like historical notes

1136
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 6: about player X performing a certain way against the team

1137
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 6: begins to become nonsensical because the rosters have changed so much.

1138
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 6: But like the Saints and Bucks, Like when you put

1139
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 6: Mike Evans against the Saints defensive backs who have they're

1140
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 6: kind of similar, like they're nasty, like Marshawn Lattimore and friends,

1141
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 6: Like this.

1142
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 5: Is they've really missed them in this matchup where he

1143
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 5: was so good against.

1144
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 6: That right, Latimore has been like the guy, but like

1145
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 6: it's like Mike Evans has been held under seventy yards

1146
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: in nine of his last matchups against the Saints. This

1147
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 6: has been like their player, their guy, and like, I

1148
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 6: think the one thing that has been such a promising

1149
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: aspect to Baker Mayfield is that that offense was so

1150
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 6: frustrating a year ago. And how many times did I

1151
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 6: watch Tom Brady and Mike Evans unable to connect deep downfield.

1152
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 6: That's not been the case with Mayfield and Evans. I

1153
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: think that that's the kind of the engine of their offense,

1154
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 6: and explosive plays in this matchup matter a lot. When

1155
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 6: they battled the first time, you know, the Saints always

1156
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 6: made life very tough for Tom Brady during his stretch

1157
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: with the Bucks. Baker Mayfield went in and they won

1158
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: twenty six to nine. And like, the performance between Derek

1159
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 6: Carr and Baker Mayfield was night and day.

1160
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 4: But Derek Carr, for all the.

1161
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: Critique gets since Week eight, has been has one hundred

1162
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 6: and forty passer rating on deep passes, and so it's like,

1163
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: I think explosive plays make the difference here.

1164
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 5: Bucks favored by two and a half man This is

1165
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 5: a tempting lock here. Saints have the extra rest coming

1166
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 5: off the DNF game, But man, the desert's been given

1167
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: the Saints way too much credit for way too long.

1168
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 5: Like they were barely underdogs in La got smoked. They're

1169
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 5: barely underdogs here. They're playing their worst football. The Bucks

1170
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 5: have won four in a row. Offensively, they're great. They're

1171
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 5: a very good offense. Right now, they're a legitimate top

1172
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: ten offense. Evans leads all NFL wide receivers and touchdowns

1173
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 5: right now, he's got to get to like thirteen fourteen

1174
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 5: hundred yards, like his route running the jerk route he

1175
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: ran on for the touchdown last week against what cornerback

1176
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 5: was that last I mean, he just made him looks

1177
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 5: gonna make a lot of mosdiculous Tyson Campbell was. He

1178
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 5: was awesome. This feels like Dennis Allen's last stand. And

1179
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 5: Baker they're now saying like there's mutual interest in keeping him.

1180
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 5: He's played his best two games of the season the

1181
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 5: last two weeks. I think Baker's been solid all year,

1182
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: but he's been legitimately really really good the last two weeks,

1183
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: and he's playing a team that just doesn't get any

1184
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: pass rush here, Like man, I like the bucks Man.

1185
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: We should look him up. It's not too late, you know.

1186
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: We obviously we know what Todd Bowles is and what

1187
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 4: he isn't, so he has nothing to do really with

1188
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: the offensive game plan. Have we been talking about Dave

1189
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: Canals on this show early in the season, Yeah, yeah,

1190
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 4: only went guy years. They went through a little slump.

1191
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, it all so tells you so because he

1192
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 4: deserves credit.

1193
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: Because if we were just talking about Kansas City and

1194
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: what's going on, everybody's out of sync. It's an offense

1195
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: that is in sync and is potent right now. And

1196
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: you got the quarterback playing with confidence, and Evans is

1197
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: having an all Pro year, and you even got Godwin

1198
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: going a little bit now, and it's just like, okay,

1199
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: look out now.

1200
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: We shall see. This is also the same.

1201
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: This is why they are the most deserving team to

1202
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: claim this bizarre division. They also did lose six of

1203
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: seven at one point this season, so the DNA within

1204
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: them perhaps is still there to have a late collapse.

1205
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 6: But I think I have to do this, Like I

1206
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 6: was gonna go somewhere else, but it's like this has

1207
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 6: been the one of the more unexpected quarterback performances of

1208
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 6: the season by Baker Mayfield, who I think was a

1209
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 6: Dalton line candidate coming into the year.

1210
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 4: I'm locking up the bucks. They're gonna do it. 'en

1211
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: up with the Saints.

1212
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 5: Check you later, okay, Dalton, I I mean heck, he

1213
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 5: was way below that.

1214
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 7: That's why he got no money this offseason. He got

1215
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 7: a one year, three billion dollar contract, and he's.

1216
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 6: Been better than Derek Carr who got who got a Yes,

1217
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: there's environment, but he's going to be a dad soon too.

1218
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: What kind of contract would Baker gets?

1219
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 7: It is a very tricky.

1220
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: I love Baker at this value. Is tricky one Baker.

1221
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 5: One last thing, The Buccaneers are the only team in

1222
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 5: the NFL that everything else that matters in terms of

1223
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 5: their playoff positioning and everything, everything else in the NFL

1224
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: has no impact on them whatsoever. Literally, no other results matter.

1225
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: If they win one of their next two games, they

1226
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: are the four seed.

1227
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 7: Period.

1228
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 3: There you go.

1229
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 4: If they don't win either, if they go zero and two,

1230
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 4: they're out. That is that is mathematically refreshing. I do

1231
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: like that.

1232
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: To quote to quote the great Mariano Duncan.

1233
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: Remember Mariano Duncan nice little infielder back in the nineties.

1234
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 4: Not really.

1235
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: We play today, we win today. That's it.

1236
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what the Bucks got to do, all right.

1237
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: I am up and it feels like it's been a

1238
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: long time since I've been up on the clock, and

1239
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: here I am. I do like the I like this

1240
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: game that it's still here. Raiders at Colts. I mean,

1241
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: come on, it's a big game in the AFC. You

1242
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: can look at these teams and say, oh, who cares,

1243
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: doesn't matter.

1244
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 4: These aren't Super Bowl teams. I get it, I'm with you.

1245
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: But it matters to the players, and it matters to

1246
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: the coach, and it matters to the fan base.

1247
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 3: So it's a game with a lot on the line.

1248
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: Colts at eight and seven, and they are, you know,

1249
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: with the Jaguars in a free fall.

1250
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 3: What's going on in the division over there? Right now?

1251
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: Where are they at?

1252
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 7: They're all tied?

1253
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: They oh my goodness, So the division is there? The

1254
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 4: wild card is there.

1255
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 5: Jacks have most of the tie breakers if it all

1256
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 5: stayed tied, but it's a three way tie.

1257
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1258
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: And then you have on the Las Vegas side of things,

1259
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: the biggest surprise of the last couple of weeks has

1260
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: been what they've done. I mean, they put.

1261
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: Up a sixty burger on the Chargers.

1262
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 2: Then on Christmas Day they go to Arrowhead and they

1263
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: and they beat the Artists formerly known as the Chiefs.

1264
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: And yes, the Chiefs are not the Chiefs anymore, at

1265
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: least not this season, but that is still a huge

1266
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: win for that organization. Obviously for Antonio Pierce is trying

1267
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: to get that intern label ripped right the hell off.

1268
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: So take a look at the Raiders now, because if

1269
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: they can beat the Colts in Indy, and we saw

1270
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: what the Colt just got spanked by the.

1271
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 4: Time, that was a terrible loss. That was a terrible loss.

1272
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: So we know what's going on with the Colts. They

1273
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: are just hanging around here. They could be picked off

1274
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: by anyone. They could beat a lot of teams too,

1275
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: but they could get picked off. Then they would be

1276
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: the Raiders home against the Broncos in Week eighteen and

1277
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: hot damn. If they ever win out and make the playoffs,

1278
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: that would be one of the more unlikely rises for

1279
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: any team in recent memory.

1280
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 6: I mean it would, it would It would match the

1281
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 6: Basaccia experience.

1282
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean even more so, like that team had some talent.

1283
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: They this team was completely off.

1284
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had a much longer because Druden got fired

1285
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: so early.

1286
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

1287
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 6: It's interesting to me how they're doing it because I

1288
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 6: think your argument for Antonio Pierce, and we talked about

1289
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 6: it a little bit in the recap show, was that, like,

1290
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 6: if you're going to be a defensive coach in twenty

1291
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: twenty three, twenty twenty four, like your defense better be great,

1292
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 6: Like it better be like we better see like a

1293
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 6: noticeable difference, and like, I think that's happened with them,

1294
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 6: Like they won that game against the Chiefs where DeVante

1295
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 6: Adams had had one reception for four yards. They've had

1296
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 6: four defensive touchdowns in two games. And the Raiders are

1297
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 6: one of the deepest historical lower operations in all of sports,

1298
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 6: and they've never done that over the course of two

1299
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 6: games in their entire organizational history. And they've had some

1300
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 6: great defenses and some like ballhawk type players. You got

1301
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 6: a guy like Max Crosby who's played more percentage of

1302
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: defensive snaps than anyone else in the league and like

1303
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: has gutted through terrible injuries. That tells me you want

1304
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 6: to play for your coach that tells me you want

1305
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 6: to play for Antonio Pierson like I think they'd be

1306
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 6: one of the most expicy stories around if they ever

1307
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 6: snuck into the wild card.

1308
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 7: And it's basically a playoff game.

1309
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 5: Good pick, fun game, an elimination game for the Raiders,

1310
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 5: you know, if they lose their out, not quite for

1311
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 5: the Colts, who, just because of the division, actually have

1312
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 5: a decent chance. They could even lose this game, win

1313
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 5: next week and still have a decent chance to get in.

1314
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if Josh Jacobs is going to be back.

1315
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: Julian Blackman has been really good at safety for the

1316
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 5: Colts is out. They're only three and four at home.

1317
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 5: The Raiders have also been a much better home team

1318
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 5: and bat on the road. So something's got to give there.

1319
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 5: This version of Minshew, who's been playing better I think

1320
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 5: in recent weeks. Despite that, I know that the result

1321
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 5: it's so weird. I swear he's played better the last

1322
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: three weeks versus this defense that could be trouble though.

1323
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 5: That could be trouble for the Colts. Two teams, good pick.

1324
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: I like this, all right, we'll say we'll say I

1325
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: wanted to be a dramatic affair, and we'll see if

1326
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor gets it going again second game back after

1327
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: the thumb injury. I don't know if you just said it, Greg,

1328
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: but Colts can win out and still miss the playoffs.

1329
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: But they could also when their division.

1330
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 5: It could also like lose this game and very easily

1331
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 5: make the playoffs next week.

1332
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot.

1333
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 7: It's crazy.

1334
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 5: The Colts three and a half point favorites in the

1335
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: money line is minus one seventy five.

1336
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 7: I'm taking the Colts. I feel bad.

1337
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: Raiders, Okay, Snakes to me, you know what, I'm going

1338
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: to go keep going down this road, and I'm going

1339
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: to pick up these games that are essentially playoff games

1340
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: for these teams. The Steelers traveling to Seattle to face

1341
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. This is the Seahawks getting three and a

1342
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: half in this game. And yeah, Mason Rudolph, he's getting

1343
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: another start. It's been quite a journey for Mason Rudolf,

1344
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: but all of a sudden he's getting something that maybe maybe,

1345
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't think this would ever be a

1346
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: situation again that here we are in late December, turning

1347
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: the calendar over to January, and he is playing a

1348
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: quarterback in a huge game for the Steelers, and maybe

1349
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: the craziest thing it is the obvious right move for

1350
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: this team right now.

1351
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: That tells you a lot, just tells you a lot.

1352
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 5: Right We're not sure if Kenny Pickett is even going

1353
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 5: to be available, although there was some hope that he

1354
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 5: would be, but Tomlin made it clear early in the

1355
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 5: week that either way, it's going to be Rudolph, who

1356
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 5: got a lot out of George. Picketts is a very

1357
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 5: talented human and they're not doing themselves a service if

1358
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 5: they don't find a way to use him, and Rudolph

1359
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 5: did in a big way. He's not great to go

1360
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 5: down the field. And I'm looking forward to those. Man,

1361
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get the bad with Pickens. That's just part

1362
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 5: of the DNA here. They might as well get the

1363
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 5: good while you're at it. And they were only not.

1364
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 5: They were only getting the bad and not the good.

1365
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 5: Get let the guy make plays, throw it up, and

1366
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 5: it made them. I don't enjoy watching the Steelers. I

1367
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 5: haven't enjoyed watching the Steelers for years now. Mostly rooted

1368
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 5: in the quarterback play, even at the end of the

1369
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 5: Ben era, that was at least a compelling watchable brand

1370
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 5: of football where you know you're getting that physical Steelers

1371
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 5: defense with an offense that has taken chances and row

1372
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 5: in the damn ball.

1373
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 6: Rudolph has more touchdown passes than Kenny Pickett with thirteen

1374
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 6: fewer games played.

1375
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 3: I can't.

1376
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna rush Canny Picket back on the field,

1377
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: can we?

1378
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 5: Con also think it's interesting, like Feelers fans, he has

1379
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 5: more touchdowns this season that.

1380
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: Can no career wise, Okay, thirteen played that one game.

1381
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: It should be pointed out that Mason Ruff came into

1382
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: the league in nineteen ninety six, so that's.

1383
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 6: Thirteen few games, thirteen fewer games than Picket. But I'm

1384
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 6: not saying like.

1385
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 3: He didn't come in to the league nineteen eighty.

1386
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 6: I do find it interesting that like Rudolph like Steelers

1387
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 6: fans are, so they adore him to such a degree,

1388
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 6: Like the degree that they.

1389
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 7: Did it seemed to like him too.

1390
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1391
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if you had to watch some of these

1392
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: guys that have been playing quarterback for the Steelers, you

1393
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: would probably want the underdog that you think didn't really

1394
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: ever get a fair shake. Although I feel like we

1395
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: watch a lot of bad Mason Ruff football too.

1396
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not last week. What is it worth?

1397
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: Last week? It was fine.

1398
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 5: Devin Wetherspoon is possibly returning, which would be really big.

1399
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 5: That benchet of Tarik Willen I think worked. He had

1400
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 5: a great game last week. They put him back in

1401
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 5: starting lineup. Carol does have and I think you see

1402
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 5: it with the russ stuff, Like Carol does have a

1403
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 5: way I think of giving players you see with Gino

1404
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: a lot of confidence in getting the best at them.

1405
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 5: They got Weatherspoon in that Russell Wilson trade. I do

1406
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: want to see Gino like use the middle of the

1407
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 5: field more. This is a matchup that you can't do it.

1408
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 5: Everything is to the outside, Like there's so many great

1409
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: Gino throws, like he played really well last week, and

1410
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 5: yet like there's such high degree of difficulty. Can we

1411
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 5: get something over the middle of the field to Smith

1412
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: and Jigma and the tight ends like he's done it

1413
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 5: before and they just don't. Compared to almost any team

1414
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 5: in the league, they just don't do that. And you

1415
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 5: should be able to against this slow Pittsburgh linebackers and

1416
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 5: what's going on in their secondary.

1417
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 6: They're pretty banged up. Like Kenneth Walker did not practice

1418
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 6: on Wednesday. Jackson Smith and Jigba was limited. Jamal Adams,

1419
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 6: who feels like an enigma at this point maybe not

1420
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 6: really part of the team going forward, also banged up.

1421
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 6: Jordan Brooks was hurting that game no offense. So it's like,

1422
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna it's that time of year for Seattle,

1423
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 6: but it's like part of those guys need to be

1424
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 6: healthy for their tackle.

1425
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 5: Worked last week against Tennessee and that is a big

1426
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 5: concern against t. J.

1427
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 7: Watt and Heismith.

1428
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: Seahawks have a sixty.

1429
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 4: Nine percent chance of making the playoffs.

1430
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: Nice even if they lose this week, they do get

1431
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: the Cardinals next week, but then you you kind of

1432
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: need some things to fall your way. So when this

1433
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: game eighty eight percent chance of making the dance.

1434
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 5: Right in the AFC, like a nine win team at

1435
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 5: this point is pretty likely to get in at least

1436
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 5: some nine win team in the NFC. I don't know,

1437
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 5: You're you're playing with fire if you if you get that,

1438
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 5: I mean we do not need Pittsburgh.

1439
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: All right, Mark back to you, buddy.

1440
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 6: So there is one final late game, but I'm going

1441
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 6: to take it later under the assumption that you're not

1442
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 6: going to steal it. From me because this is the

1443
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 6: special week where the NFL is created. As scenario, will

1444
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 6: will each be watching three games a piece in the

1445
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 6: early windows. So I'm going to take my final one,

1446
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 6: which is Arizona at Philadelphia.

1447
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 4: Similar situation.

1448
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 6: I want to see these like teams in the conference,

1449
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 6: like show me that they're still going to battle down

1450
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 6: to the end.

1451
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 4: And you're hunting for blowouts. That's what you're doing. That

1452
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: is exactly what I'm doing.

1453
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: Got the sniper ribs, You're You're on the sixth floor

1454
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: book depository right now.

1455
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 6: I tried to dress it up in a different way,

1456
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 6: but you saw right through that. That's what I'm looking for.

1457
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 6: If you're going to do three, two of them better

1458
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 6: be kind of easy narratives.

1459
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: Let's go that that's about you drafted forty nine ers.

1460
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: Now you need that.

1461
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: You want to take that party victory or rat lap

1462
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: on Sunday after waxing the worst secondary and well, I.

1463
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 6: Do I do feel that best player in the league again,

1464
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 6: I do feel that way.

1465
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: It comes everybody get ready. But you could say the Eagles.

1466
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 6: There is like a fair amount of intrigue around the

1467
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 6: Eagles because it's like the whole Matt Patricia thing the hole,

1468
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 6: the fact that like a j Brown at times have

1469
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 6: sort of vanished from this offense. The Jalen Hurts Uh

1470
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 6: essentially leads the league in turnovers from the pocket, Like

1471
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 6: we're like, I think he's an interesting study because it's

1472
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 6: like he made this huge leap last year where it's like, oh,

1473
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 6: that's what we just expected Justin Field to do this year.

1474
01:04:59,040 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: Well that's not how it works.

1475
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 6: But Jalen Hurts has taking a big step back, and

1476
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 6: I think that they're coaching, their coordinatorships have made a

1477
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 6: major difference to that team. They feel like kind of

1478
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 6: on the brink where there's just this like the Eagles

1479
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 6: front office, ownership, everything on down was like the most consistent,

1480
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 6: trustable team out there, like the NFC's version of the

1481
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 6: Ravens almost and like in the Last Fortnight, everything feels

1482
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 6: different and it's like, are the precipice of implosion if

1483
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 6: they have another bad performance and Arizona's probably not gonna

1484
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 6: go do that a little spice here with Kyler Murray,

1485
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 6: but it's like this is probably a home run for

1486
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 6: the Eagles, but if anything went south, I want to

1487
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 6: watch it because I think things get really interesting for

1488
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 6: a team that's hanging in a weird place.

1489
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 5: Right, it would sting to lose to Jonathan Gannon. It's

1490
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 5: a big Jonathan Gannon. Now people say revenge. You know,

1491
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 5: he was a helped him get to the super Bowl.

1492
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 7: But his whole.

1493
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 5: Controversy of how he left and the interviews and the

1494
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 5: process of that, that all like kind of led to

1495
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 5: uh h, shine the side getting hired and that didn't work.

1496
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 5: You know, it all didn't leave them in a good spot.

1497
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: On not the guy.

1498
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 5: I mean, Jalen Hurts I think is coming off one

1499
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 5: of his best games of the year. I think he's

1500
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 5: had a very good season. If to me a fourth

1501
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 5: year player that he hasn't as good as last year,

1502
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 5: obviously good, He's like, yes, I think he's been like

1503
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 5: a top seven or eight quarterback in the NFL. For

1504
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 5: where is his development to me is totally fair. It's

1505
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 5: the other stuff around them to me that's been more disappointing,

1506
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 5: namely the defense.

1507
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 7: The most controversial thing I feel like that happened.

1508
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 5: In the Eagles lately is like they're kind of bening

1509
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 5: Jalen Carter maybe didn't have the greatest effort on some

1510
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 5: players last week like played twenty one snaps.

1511
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 7: It's weird that No, you know that that hasn't been

1512
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 7: that talks.

1513
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 5: About to me, they just need to get back to

1514
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 5: running the ball. That it was a great swift game

1515
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 5: last week. I think you can run it down. The

1516
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 5: Cardinals throw interesting about Carter. I mean, see poems written

1517
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 5: mark about him earlier in the year.

1518
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: And also a guy that came into the league with

1519
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: some question marks about character and things of that nature.

1520
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: Let's see what's going on with him.

1521
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it might just be he never had

1522
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 5: many snaps in college. Neither did Jordan Davis, and like

1523
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: he's just wearing down and they're trying to save him

1524
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 5: a little bit for the playoffs because he is running

1525
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 5: out of gas.

1526
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: Man, I feel him. I feel that.

1527
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 5: Eagles favored by eleven minus six hundred, and you get

1528
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 5: Joe Davis and Daryl Johnston on the call.

1529
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 6: Pam Oliver about that big victory for me. Good team,

1530
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 6: good broadcasting standpoint. Greg, you're up, let's do Panthers Jaguars.

1531
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 6: How about that it's actually in the lock zone. You

1532
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 6: could lock again to the Panthers minus six and a

1533
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 6: half in minus two eighty five for the money line.

1534
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 6: Good one Panthers Jaguars. Can the Jaguars complete this collapse?

1535
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: You're rooting for that? Am I wrong?

1536
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: I announced that I've got.

1537
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 5: That they weren't good all year, and in that they

1538
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, just before the season, I did not have

1539
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 5: them as like a playoff team.

1540
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 7: I am surprised.

1541
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: I would make you look very smart if they end

1542
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 4: up face playing.

1543
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 5: Nobody's gonna remember anything, everyone and none of it. I

1544
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 5: picked the Charger to make the super Bowl, none of you.

1545
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 5: I didn't need to say that. Yeah, but nobody cares.

1546
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 5: That's one thing you have learned. You get older, literally

1547
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 5: no one. No one's gonna care about your predictions.

1548
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: Right Who did you pick?

1549
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: Pick to win the biggest award? Individual award? What do

1550
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: they call that? Again? We can't discuss that, well, I can't.

1551
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 7: I actually don't remember you guys, do you remember? I don't.

1552
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 4: I think I picked Mahomes. You know we're gonna remasit

1553
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 4: all that stuff.

1554
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 5: Uh No, Trev potentially in this game, but he is proud.

1555
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 5: He did speak with the media, so I think he's

1556
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 5: probably gonna play. He's come up with a new injury

1557
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 5: every week. He's just had this terrible luck where he's

1558
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 5: played every game. It feels like he's missed games. He

1559
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 5: feels gone and and he's and he's uh not finished

1560
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 5: three in a row, right.

1561
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like in his last four games, he's had a

1562
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 6: high ankle spring that looked terrible when it happened, right,

1563
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 6: He's had a concussion and a shoulder in quick recap Eric.

1564
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: The last three games for Trevor. Okay, here's game one,

1565
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: Game two three. I didn't know if that's true.

1566
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 5: I think of leaving the game yet, and it sounds

1567
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 5: like you will play. And I don't know what to

1568
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 5: put on his injuries because he had like seven or

1569
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 5: eight diying in that game against the Book. Yeah, but

1570
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what to think about it because like

1571
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 5: he he had a bad game because he made so

1572
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 5: many poor decisions and turned them all over.

1573
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 7: But if you made like a list of the best.

1574
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 5: Throws in that game, he had more great throws than

1575
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield. So it's like I have a hard time

1576
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 5: saying like marks injury. I just mean that, like I

1577
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 5: don't need to be protected. These things are confusing. It's

1578
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 5: the defense, the offensive line, everything is kind of collapsing

1579
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 5: around them. Bryce Young playing a little better. So wow,

1580
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 5: go win this game. We need go win this game

1581
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 5: and get out of that one seed.

1582
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1583
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and we'll go back

1584
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: to Greg when we come back, right, welcome back, Greg

1585
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:03,440
Speaker 2: gets back to you, baby boy.

1586
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 7: All right, what else is left?

1587
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 4: I think we could talk about a certain quarter?

1588
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 7: All right, let's go Chargers Broncos.

1589
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 4: Isn't that the only late game that I was telling

1590
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 4: you not?

1591
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 7: What's a shook game? Anyway?

1592
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 4: So oh, negative one eight five minus long and a half.

1593
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna do four one o'clock games.

1594
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 7: If you're on this, we can switch it around, we

1595
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 7: can give it.

1596
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 6: Uh.

1597
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1598
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 6: I just listened to the host here. He said, let's

1599
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 6: talk Russ. I figured it feels like a good time

1600
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 6: to talk Russ.

1601
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 4: I don't know what a coulda talked about it in

1602
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 4: for minutely weird?

1603
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 7: What a weird? Uh?

1604
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 5: Twenty four hours it's been since the report came out.

1605
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 5: Initially that like, oh they might be going to do

1606
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: the whole nation is dealing with it, and then thirty

1607
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 5: minutes later they are benching Russell Wilson for Jarrett Stidham,

1608
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: even though the Broncos have a chance to make the

1609
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 5: playoffs here. If they win out, you know they got

1610
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 5: a shot to make it. I believe Sean pay And

1611
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 5: when he says like he admitted that the finances are

1612
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 5: part of it to start a sentence, Rather, that's a

1613
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 5: fair point.

1614
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 4: That's a fair point.

1615
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 7: It where he says like the finances are part of it.

1616
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 5: They're trying to avoid Russell Wilson getting hurt potentially and

1617
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 5: then being on the hook for all this guaranteed money.

1618
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 5: But obviously they didn't do it until this week. And

1619
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 5: so until this week they decided like it was worth

1620
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 5: keeping playing him, and that actually we'd like to see

1621
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: Jarrett Stidham because we gave him this big contract and

1622
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 5: we don't think it's gonna be some big drop off.

1623
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 5: Maybe he'll be better, maybe he'll be worse, And that

1624
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 5: it's the combination of Russell Wilson's play and the contract.

1625
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson, you can tell, is putting out all this

1626
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 5: stuff through his sources that say it's.

1627
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 7: All about the contract, and no, it's a combination.

1628
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 5: If Russell Wilson was bawling out and it wasn't coming

1629
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 5: off one of the worst games of his season, I

1630
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 5: don't think you would be bench right now.

1631
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 2: It's God's plan here. Two things I find it to

1632
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: be refresh. There's a team at the bottom of the

1633
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 2: AFC playoff race. It's like, we're not kidding ourselves here,

1634
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: Like we could ride with Russ and risk the financial

1635
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: side to try to get in the playoffs and maybe

1636
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: we'll make some No, we're already looking ahead to the

1637
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: future of this franchise. And I think an old Greg ism, GREGI,

1638
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: it's like, it's two things can be true. It's yeah,

1639
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is a Dalton line level quarterback at this point.

1640
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: He's not a terrible quarterback, but he's you know, in

1641
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: that kind of soft underbelly. Where would you put him,

1642
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, like fourteen to seventeen in that range.

1643
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: And what does not work is to pay a Dalton

1644
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: line quarterback like a superstar, especially when there are risks

1645
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: of guaranteeing money for a quarterback. You have now decided

1646
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: with new leadership this year. Okay, we tried it out

1647
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: for a year. We're moving forward. It all kind of

1648
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 2: makes sense now Denver just has to eat all the

1649
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: pooh and it's unprecedented almost levels of financial penalties. They're

1650
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: going to incurry here to move on from Russ, but

1651
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 2: it's still you got to do it because you you

1652
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: did try this year. And I think they did a

1653
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: good job in having patients lading this song to see

1654
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: if this is a marriage to make work because of

1655
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: the money. It didn't work, and they're moving on, and

1656
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: I think it makes sense.

1657
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 6: I think in theory you would say that the best

1658
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 6: possible avenue he could have had to save his career

1659
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 6: was under Sean Payton or under a coach like Sean Payton.

1660
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: And I think it's I kind of love what they're doing.

1661
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 2: But it's not even about like he needs to save

1662
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: his career, because I don't think he's some hopeless cause

1663
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: you know, it's.

1664
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 6: Just coming off guy coming off coming off of last year,

1665
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 6: like his Broncos career, like the version of him in

1666
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 6: Denver where it's like he would stay beyond this season

1667
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 6: he finished. He's top ten right now in completion percentage,

1668
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 6: touchdown pick ratio, and passer rating it. But it doesn't

1669
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 6: look like it's kind of like Lamar, you just you

1670
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 6: got to watch the games.

1671
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's not ball. You know, it's like

1672
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 7: he's not but.

1673
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 6: I think it's like people are not like watching Brouckles

1674
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 6: games all just like he's just a disaster because he

1675
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 6: was that last year. No, he's not like he's just

1676
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 6: in the middle of the road like you're saying, but

1677
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 6: I'm wondering more like if you're the Broncos and if

1678
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 6: you're Sean Payton, who was clearly told before he took

1679
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 6: the job, like you're not tied to Russell Wilson, you

1680
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 6: can evaluate and see what you want to do, Like

1681
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 6: why are we keeping the general manager, like who made

1682
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 6: this trade? And like like they evaluated Greg like you

1683
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 6: were saying you were down on Russell Wilson before that

1684
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 6: trade had ever happened, a season before that trade ever happened.

1685
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 6: It's like the general manager, who is hired to make

1686
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 6: these kinds of decisions entangle you financially in a wise

1687
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 6: way towards a franchise quarterback made a terrible decision, and

1688
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 6: other people were seeing that Russell Wilson was not the

1689
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 6: same player.

1690
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 5: And Russell Wilson is guaranteed a lot of money next year.

1691
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 5: People kind of are getting it twisted. It's like, oh,

1692
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 5: they're getting out of having to pay him next year,

1693
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 5: it's like, no, he's actually get banged.

1694
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 7: Guaranteed money next year.

1695
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 5: The extension they signed him to, which to be clear,

1696
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 5: was in the area of the Mahomes and Josh Allen's

1697
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 5: type extensive. It hasn't started yet, Dan, it starts next year.

1698
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 4: That's wild. It's it's totally insane. It's funny money, Greg,

1699
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 4: if you have it right.

1700
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 5: Well, I think I think in terms of the actual money,

1701
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 5: it's still over thirty plus that they owe him. But

1702
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 5: in terms of the dead money the cap space that

1703
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 5: kills eighty five million. In theory, they could eat it

1704
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 5: all in one year. I don't think they'll do that.

1705
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 5: I think they'll just doing that. They'll spread it out

1706
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 5: over too, but that it might be tempting that the

1707
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 5: Falcons were in a somewhat similar scenario and they decided

1708
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 5: to eat all of Matt Ryan's money, which was like

1709
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 5: forty or something in one year to at least get

1710
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 5: it off the books, because suddenly Russell Wilson's gonna cost

1711
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 5: you like forty nine million in twenty twenty five on

1712
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: the cap and it's like, man, maybe maybe we just

1713
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 5: want to take our medicine. And that's why it's one

1714
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 5: of the worst trades in NFL history because the contract

1715
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 5: and all the picks that led to Weatherspoon and Mafia,

1716
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 5: all these like picks for Seattle.

1717
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 7: What a who is to.

1718
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: Put that in?

1719
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: It absolutely was, and just to put it in perspective,

1720
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: so if his cap hit is near what you say, fifty,

1721
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: if they spread it out.

1722
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 5: If they spread out, it'll be in the thirties next year,

1723
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 5: and then near fifty and twenty five.

1724
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 2: The cap at least this year, and it always creeps

1725
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: up is two twenty five. So that's going to be

1726
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: eating up a large part of their availability. So it's

1727
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: a It's a type of move that if you hit

1728
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: on it, and then I'll use staffor again as an example,

1729
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: it opens up your window as a contender for several years.

1730
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: But if it goes the other way, this is a

1731
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: mistake that is going to continue to reverberate for multiple years.

1732
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: And I wonder if Sean Peyton, then he's not a

1733
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: man that lacks confidence, if he ever truly thought that out,

1734
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: and if he's now realizing, oh wait, okay, I couldn't

1735
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: fix them, and now look, I'm basically handcuffed in a

1736
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: league where coaches don't usually get more than three years

1737
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: to write a ship.

1738
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 6: I mean, Sean Payton didn't have a lot of other

1739
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 6: options and he took this. He got huge money, right,

1740
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 6: so there's I mean, that was a huge part.

1741
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 4: I would just say this are we would have waited

1742
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 4: it out and eventually found something you could But are we?

1743
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 4: Are we in an NFL?

1744
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 6: That's so absurd and so like ill thinking that's another

1745
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 6: team this offseason is going to convince themselves to bring

1746
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,959
Speaker 6: in Russell Wilson as a starter. Like if that happens,

1747
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 6: I lose entire faith.

1748
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

1749
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: In general, he's again I don't think he's bad, and

1750
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: look how many bad quarterbacks you watch?

1751
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 6: I know, But like then it's just like what are

1752
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 6: we What are you saying getting paid like don't know,

1753
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 6: Smith or something that makes more sense.

1754
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 4: This is what is outrageous, getting paid like this to

1755
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 4: play like that? Right that doesn't it will get that

1756
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 4: will get leveled a little bit.

1757
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 5: It feels a little awkward though, as like a Teddy

1758
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 5: Bridgewater type. So I'm with you, Mark, I don't know.

1759
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 5: I don't think there's going to be a starting job.

1760
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 5: Maybe once all the chairs stopped moving, maybe they'll just

1761
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 5: be some team that that needs.

1762
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: The commanders will like the Raids, But I don't do that.

1763
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 7: I actually kind of doubt it.

1764
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 5: This is so ugly though, Like so Jordan Schultz had

1765
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 5: this reporting and then it was backed up I think

1766
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 5: by the Athletic that the Broncos approached Wilson two days

1767
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 5: before after their upset of the Chiefs, so just you know,

1768
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 5: almost two months ago now late October, and told him

1769
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 5: they were gonna make him inactive if they didn't adjust

1770
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 5: his contract and defer the injury guarantee that I was

1771
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 5: talking about, and that they threatened him and they got

1772
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 5: into a major dispute that the NFLPA got involved in.

1773
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 7: Who knows.

1774
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 5: It's interesting to me that Russell Wilson is his side

1775
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 5: is clearly putting this out there to make Sean Payton

1776
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 5: and the Broncos look bad. And Sean Payton is very

1777
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 5: aware of what is happening. And these two still have

1778
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 5: to work together the next couple of weeks and Russell

1779
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 5: Wilson is going to be the backup SUP this week.

1780
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 7: That's what Sean Payton said.

1781
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 5: So they're having this sort of source war, and he's

1782
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 5: basically saying Sean Payton's a jerk.

1783
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be benched.

1784
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put this out and then I'm gonna go

1785
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 5: on Twitter and go on a streak of liking a

1786
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 5: bunch of tweets from all these accounts like that. I

1787
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 5: mean that, like it is twenty twenty four. Here are

1788
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 5: the people JFA football. He liked JPA football. Oh that's

1789
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 5: one of those terrible ones Fantasy fanatics he did, which

1790
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 5: I'd been talking about liking some other stuff. Of all

1791
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 5: putting these out there of how poorly Peyton's treaty him

1792
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: and how great Russell Wilson is, and then his public

1793
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 5: statement is that, like I trust in God, and I

1794
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 5: really think it's interesting because these two guys shown Peyton

1795
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 5: and Russell Wilson, few people have tried to manipulate the

1796
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 5: media through sources to make themselves look better and to

1797
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 5: like get money than these two guys. So it's like,

1798
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 5: you know what, it's like my it's like my super

1799
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 5: Bowl of like source offs.

1800
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 6: We have been doing this for a long time, and

1801
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 6: like there is like no one gets Greg more, not

1802
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 6: no one, but like top five get Greg fired up.

1803
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 6: Sean Payton is consistently cemented in the trus.

1804
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: Else strong I see.

1805
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 5: I get, it's why they were yelling at each other.

1806
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 7: There's two alike.

1807
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: I also find football, you know, the Twitter verse to

1808
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: be exhausting sometimes because it's hypocritical that we're we're always

1809
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: talking about how, you know, the the owners have too

1810
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: much power, and the and the players. We should always

1811
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 2: side with players and this thing that's happening. But then

1812
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: it depends on the player. And Russell is not an

1813
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: overly popular guy, so all of a sudden, we're not

1814
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 2: like saying he's being done dirty, but he is being

1815
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: done I.

1816
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 7: Think, just like I think it's working what he's doing.

1817
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: But just like Derek Carr, this I think is an

1818
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: unfair loophole. I'll call it the car clause because it

1819
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: happened with him with the Raiders last year. That you

1820
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: sign a certain deal that you expect to protect you

1821
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: and then they kind of use it against you. And

1822
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: in this case, you hold him, put a gun to

1823
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: his head and say, unless you change your contract, we're

1824
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: going to end your career there and bench your ass.

1825
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 5: But here's the thing they did, so that's why the

1826
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 5: report they did, but they didn't for two more months

1827
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 5: so they didn't actually do it. So that's that needed

1828
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 5: a little pushback in terms of their party. It's like, Okay,

1829
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 5: they threatened that they were going to do that, and

1830
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 5: they didn't do it.

1831
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: They waited till they were himself with context matters too.

1832
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: That was at the point of the season where things

1833
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 2: were going really well.

1834
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 7: No, it was that.

1835
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 4: It was when they were three and five and they

1836
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 4: said they were going to bench. Said then it was

1837
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 4: after the Chiefs upset.

1838
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 7: Yes, but they were three and five at then, Okay.

1839
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 2: Well they they had they had turned the corner after

1840
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: a terrible start.

1841
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 4: Where were they They were one and four, right.

1842
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 7: They were one and four and then they were one

1843
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 7: and five. I think they had won.

1844
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: One and five and so they were kind of things

1845
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: were at that point in the season. Things were turning over.

1846
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm just saying sometimes it's like where do we choose

1847
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: when to side with ownership and when do we side

1848
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean.

1849
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 6: Like also like the one like it's not Russell Wilson

1850
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 6: is not being thrown into the breadline where you're still

1851
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 6: go to get a job at like CVS next week.

1852
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 4: It's like he's making.

1853
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: Oh okay, if you want to put it through that lens.

1854
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: What are we talking about anything?

1855
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 4: I am, well, that's that's that's a fair question. It's

1856
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 4: like he's this is what then happen.

1857
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 6: He's an incredibly disappointing quarterback for what they thought. It's

1858
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 6: a disaster, and he's still making an incredible more He's

1859
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 6: making way more money than he deserves for what he's

1860
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 6: given them.

1861
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 5: He Uh, this was one where he's doing the pr

1862
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 5: thing and it's it's working.

1863
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 6: I mean, every wedding everywhere, we're gonna kill Sean like

1864
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson is.

1865
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 7: I think I think Sean Payton needs to handle that better.

1866
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,480
Speaker 2: Every big name, almost every big name player has representation

1867
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 2: that works for him.

1868
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 4: And when these crisises happened different. There's spin, and there's

1869
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 4: it's part of the It's part of the game.

1870
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely, But I think it's fair to look at these

1871
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 5: two guys, John bat and Russell Wilson and say they've gotten.

1872
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: Guys a whole other category.

1873
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 7: He's actually because I think he knows he's mean enough.

1874
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, all right, let's move on. All right, let's

1875
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: see let's see anything about that game.

1876
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 6: No, we're good, Mark, all right, Uh, I'm gonna take

1877
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 6: my fourth early game because this point, someone just find

1878
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 6: an off fire arm and take me out.

1879
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 7: What does it matter.

1880
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 4: I'll take one of it, but I'm going Tennessee at Houston.

1881
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: Speaking of putting in perspective, you're watching football for a

1882
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 4: living sassy Tennessee it. I actually I think you just

1883
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 4: take this game. So that's not a fourth. I know

1884
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 4: what I'm doing.

1885
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 6: You can't have it both ways. You can't say I

1886
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 6: can have it. I can you have it both ways?

1887
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 6: You have it both ways, like twenty five times a show.

1888
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 6: I'll have it both ways. I'm happy to take the

1889
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 6: game from you.

1890
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 4: I am happy to take it for myself in the

1891
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 4: nick of time.

1892
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 9: C J.

1893
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 6: Stroud, who practiced good is returning. I found that so

1894
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 6: depressing for the Texans, who are one of the best

1895
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 6: stories around. Uh, to lose this quarterback and so this

1896
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 6: is such a winnable division the version that we got

1897
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 6: of c J. Stroud and the Texans are the team

1898
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 6: I want to win this division enough with everyone else.

1899
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 4: Give me a break. Uh, they're you know.

1900
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 6: When you look back at the first matchup, one thing

1901
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 6: stands out to me is that Derreck Henry had sixteen

1902
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 6: carries for nine yards and four receptions for one yard.

1903
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 4: Historically, you have to go back deep.

1904
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 6: In time to find a player that had twenty offensive

1905
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 6: touchdowns or twenty offensive touches with ten scrimmage yards. That's

1906
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 6: never happened in the Super Bowl era. So it's like,

1907
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 6: if you can, if you can nullify Derek Henry and

1908
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 6: like it sounds like Will Lewis is gonna come back potentially,

1909
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 6: but it's like this is somewhat of a dead offense.

1910
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 6: Go take care of business, Houston, win this game. You

1911
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 6: got Stroud back in the lineup.

1912
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: This is the.

1913
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 6: Most intriguing team in the AFC South. If he's performing

1914
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 6: the way that we know, and especially if you get

1915
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 6: guys like Will Anderson the rest down the stretch back

1916
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 6: as well, it's like this is a well coached team,

1917
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 6: Coach of the year potential. I want to see Houston

1918
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 6: in the playoffs start right here.

1919
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you.

1920
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 4: They were given up five and a half points.

1921
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 5: They yeah, they are they are favorite here. I guess

1922
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 5: that's assuming well, this should be minus two fifty five.

1923
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 5: It's probably Levis. It's probably the last two games of

1924
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry's career. According to Derrick Henry in Tennessee. So

1925
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 5: that's interesting. He was kind of talking about like he

1926
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 5: sees where it's going and he wanted to play for

1927
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 5: one team, but it's just probably not gonna happen. Taji

1928
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 5: Spears being fantastic is part of that. Kind of shows

1929
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 5: you the limitations of a great backfield. I would put

1930
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 5: them in the top three four backfields in the NFL,

1931
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 5: and it really doesn't matter much for them.

1932
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 4: Well, there's nothing else happening with that offense too, That's

1933
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 4: it can't be.

1934
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 5: Just that CJ being back, Blake Cashman being back, but

1935
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 5: might not have Anderson or Grenard, which is what made

1936
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 5: this defense special. So the Texans are definitely capable of

1937
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 5: losing this game too.

1938
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 7: They're not some juggernauts.

1939
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 5: Strauta was struggling a little bit before the injury too,

1940
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 5: and now has missed a couple of weeks. So I'm

1941
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 5: with you, Mark, I really hope they win and find

1942
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 5: a way in all.

1943
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 4: Right, up next, I mean, like can have five games.

1944
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 5: Will all end up with the exact same game. That's

1945
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 5: why it was not worth There's so many worked up.

1946
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 5: We so many like well each have three, it's very easy.

1947
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 6: No, there is no other show like this where works. Wow,

1948
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 6: we got fin about what we have to do? No,

1949
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 6: I just has that happened this year?

1950
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 4: That's no. I think we're getting killed with that early

1951
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 4: slate situation.

1952
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 9: Right.

1953
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: I got New England at Buffalo, and it is Buffalo.

1954
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: We got a college spread here, They're given thirteen and

1955
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: a half.

1956
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 4: That's absurd to me? Is it how the Patriots defense

1957
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: is played?

1958
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 2: The idea here, and I am fully on board with it,

1959
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: is that the Buffalo Bills are at home in a

1960
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: have to have it game.

1961
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 3: This is not a trap game. This is the Bills.

1962
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: No, they cannot mess around here. And they know they

1963
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: got the Dolphins next week. They survived that little slip

1964
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: up against the Chargers, and so they had that type

1965
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 2: of game and they got away with it after you know,

1966
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: finding ways to lose earlier in the season. So the

1967
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: idea here is I get it, Belichick, and the defense

1968
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: has been competitive this year. But the Bills, when they

1969
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: are operating at a high level at home, I could

1970
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: just see them going off here and I think the

1971
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: spread actually is fair. And I think the Bills are

1972
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: the great mystery to me of the season because and

1973
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 2: you know.

1974
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: No one.

1975
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: Oh, it can't bring it up, but certain things that

1976
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: hardware that's handed out at award shows. Josh Allen truly

1977
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: was the big winner last week because all of a

1978
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: sudden he could be in that conversation with a strong finish.

1979
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: But they got to get to the playoffs first, and

1980
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: they got to win these games.

1981
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: So it's all in front of the Bills.

1982
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: They could be in two weeks time, they could be

1983
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: the most disappointing team in football this year, and really

1984
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: the most disappointing team in the last couple of years.

1985
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: I think in the NFL, if this thing went a

1986
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: certain way and they and they missed the dance, or

1987
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: they can go in like a house on fire and

1988
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: the team that people are picking to go to the

1989
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 2: super Bowl and it wouldn't seem crazy. So a lot

1990
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: to be figured out around Buffalo right now.

1991
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,799
Speaker 5: I think it's a huge difference to win the division

1992
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 5: and we'll get to that and they have to, you know,

1993
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 5: hope the Dolphins lose.

1994
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 7: This week to get there. But it's such a huge difference.

1995
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 5: I think even going in as a two or three

1996
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 5: seed and going in as a six or seven, it's

1997
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 5: just so hard to be the six or seven. They're

1998
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 5: playing a team that handled them earlier in the year.

1999
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 5: Certainly Mac Jones' best game of the year, he's long gone.

2000
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 5: Bailey Zappi is coming off his best game of the year.

2001
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 5: This defense still like not consistent the Bills defense, and

2002
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 5: like don't have a consistent enough pass rush.

2003
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 7: Von Miller.

2004
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 5: You know what a disastrous season he's had with the arrest,

2005
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 5: But for the Bills that he just I don't think

2006
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 5: it's coming. It's he just isn't gonna make an impact.

2007
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 5: So you need your offense to score thirty forty points.

2008
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 5: He used to do that reliably against the Patriots defense,

2009
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 5: and I tend to think you're right, Dan, that they

2010
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 5: can do it again. This State Pagers defense is good,

2011
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 5: but let's not get carried away. They're like they're a

2012
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 5: good defense, They're not a like unstoppable defense. They can

2013
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 5: still give up like two ninety yard drives to Russell

2014
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 5: Wilson in a big spot, you know when it matters.

2015
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 6: No, I'm not saying that there's something that's special about

2016
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 6: their defense, but it's been consistent. It's been pretty consistent

2017
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 6: the Bills under McDermott. I think these kind of things

2018
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 6: matter like they're seventeen and two in December and January

2019
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 6: regular season played like they close seasons. Well, I think

2020
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 6: they understand through all the chaos that's unfurled inside and

2021
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 6: outside the building. You know, it's been a weird year.

2022
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 6: Last year was a weird year for the Bills. Two

2023
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 6: years in a row and a weird way. They have

2024
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 6: to take care of business, and they will, and there's

2025
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 6: no reason to expect. There's no element to New England

2026
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 6: that suggests an upset like Rimondre Stevenson's been put on IR.

2027
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 6: I think that they looked explosive on offense against the

2028
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 6: Broncos for the first time and like a thousand eons,

2029
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 6: Do I trust that that's who they are for the

2030
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 6: next two weeks? No, No, the Bill's the money line

2031
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 6: is pretty wild here minus eight hundred. At least that

2032
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 6: Christian Barmore is playing like a standout defense.

2033
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 3: Very good.

2034
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 5: I always believe that th sacks and three sacks plastic.

2035
01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 5: That's really been great for the second half of the season.

2036
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 5: So at least there's one nice young player they have like.

2037
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: None, Yeah, we have so few.

2038
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 2: I got a lot of work to do and he

2039
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 2: is one and it's going to be a vitally important

2040
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: draft coming up. Who's going to be in charge of

2041
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: that draft? We don't know a great stat here from

2042
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: the research team. We'll go out on this with this game,

2043
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: with a win versus the Pats in week seventeen, the

2044
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: Bills will have ten wins or more for.

2045
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: The fifth straight season.

2046
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:27,440
Speaker 4: Roberts Roberts, how old you? How old are Eric Roberts

2047
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 4: Actually just turned thirty two years old by a young

2048
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 4: looking through our beautiful mustachioed boy.

2049
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: Eric Roberts is thirty two, So the end of his twenties,

2050
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: early thirties, he's known nothing but ten wins. Seasons are

2051
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: more buffalo for all the other years pretty much of

2052
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: Eric's life, for most of them, had zero such seasons

2053
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 2: of ten plus wins from two thousand to twenty eighteen.

2054
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: So Sean McDermott much beligned in certain corners of BLOGI sphere.

2055
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: He arrived in twenty seventeen.

2056
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Do the math. He's been part of the right.

2057
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 4: But my niece and nephew only know Josh Allen.

2058
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 3: There you go. What a life? Yeah, it's nice? What

2059
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 3: I know? I know? Pain.

2060
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 6: I want to tell you one thing about Eric like

2061
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,759
Speaker 6: I went to my desk. Yes, I'm sure this occurred.

2062
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 6: If it happened to only me, that would be very noticeable.

2063
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 6: But like, uh okay, really nice Christmas card from Eric, handwritten.

2064
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,440
Speaker 6: Who's doing that anymore? Like my like my my grandmother's

2065
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 6: like the last person that sent me things like that.

2066
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: So the great Sean Kelly also Sean Kelly. Absolutely very

2067
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: nice Eric, that you guys all should have gotten a note.

2068
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 2: If not, that would be awesome if.

2069
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 4: To compare what you said to me versus Yeah, all right.

2070
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 7: Knapp into my desk this week. Yeah, come straight here.

2071
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 2: I'll be checking in on that and reading it closely

2072
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: to see if there's any differences in the letters.

2073
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: That goes back to me.

2074
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: And uh, I guess I'm gonna toss this over to

2075
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: sestag enjoy the Falcons at the Bears.

2076
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 7: No, I think it's me. Well, we'll figure it all

2077
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 7: out afterwards. That's not where.

2078
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 11: It's not in my direction that I'm throwing this hot

2079
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 11: potato to somebody. Falcons at there as the Falcons keeping

2080
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 11: their playoff hopes alive just barely with that win over

2081
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 11: the Colts, a decisive win. So you know what, Greg,

2082
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 11: it's like, if you're gonna ask me to try to

2083
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 11: figure out what version of the Falcons are gonna get

2084
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 11: it this week, you're going to the wrong guy.

2085
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really knows. But they have an

2086
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 2: opponent that also is a bit, a bit, a bit

2087
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 2: hard to team to decipher right now. So this could

2088
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: be a close game, It could have a could go

2089
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: in a lot of different.

2090
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 5: Directions, but it does feel like a bit of a

2091
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 5: like a coach off, like a hot seat off. Next

2092
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 5: week's Falcon Saints feels possibly like a loser gets home job. Potentially,

2093
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 5: if the Falcons won these two weeks, they have a

2094
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 5: reasonable chance to make it either as the division winner

2095
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 5: or the wild card, almost fifty to fifty, about thirty

2096
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 5: eight percent chances if they won both of them. So

2097
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 5: it's it's not too late for them to save their job.

2098
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 5: The Bears have been the number one defense in EPA

2099
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 5: per play allowed since week how about that six week six.

2100
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 5: That's a pretty long timeline here, And I think these

2101
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 5: games really matter for Eberflus if they they have the

2102
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 5: Packers next week, Like if they could knock out the Packers,

2103
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 5: I mean, if they win these two games, I don't

2104
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 5: think there's any chance Eberflus has gone, So it does

2105
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 5: matter for these two coaches, I think.

2106
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I think if if you want to make

2107
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 6: an argument for Eberflus, it's like what he is meant

2108
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 6: to be good at, they're good at.

2109
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 7: They've like in the guy.

2110
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 6: And I would also even say for the front office,

2111
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 6: like the Montes Sweat trade wasn't just a vanity move,

2112
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 6: Like it's absolutely worked. He fits into their defense. They've

2113
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 6: been really good on that side of the ball. I'm

2114
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 6: looking at the entire league and I'm like, are the

2115
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 6: Falcons the most disappointing team in the NFL considering where

2116
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 6: I thought what I thought they would be back in August?

2117
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 4: There's some competition. Been the team that has desmondridd Or

2118
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 4: the quarterback be the most disappointing.

2119
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 3: To me in the NFL.

2120
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 6: I thought person how much I thought personally that they

2121
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 6: were going to kind of do something that got a

2122
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 6: lot of talks.

2123
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 5: Bengals are up there for me, but Bengals are injury base. Yeah,

2124
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 5: but it's to me, it's not. They were disappointed with Burrow,

2125
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 5: and I think they'd be disappointing with him still.

2126
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 7: But You're right, Patriots are up there.

2127
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 6: The Bills need to finish strong, but they have a

2128
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 6: potential to be up there.

2129
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 7: But you're right there. There aren't many I'm.

2130
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Saying for Arthur Smith, it's like, what is your selling point.

2131
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 6: It's like you're in that Patriots chargers, deep chargers, chargers,

2132
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 6: and so that we know what happened to that coach.

2133
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 6: It's like, I'm just saying Arthur Smith's resume. Here is

2134
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 6: rough rugged.

2135
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 5: Last test for that running attack. Again, such a good

2136
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 5: run defense. It's not a bad game. I'll take it.

2137
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 5: I'll take it. It's a final chance for the Bears.

2138
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 5: Home favorites minus three and minus one.

2139
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 2: Per next Gen Stats, the Bear is currently less than

2140
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 2: a one percent chance to make the playoffs if they win,

2141
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: though greg in Week seventeen, Chicago's playoffs chances jump to

2142
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 2: one percent. So it goes from less than one percent.

2143
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 2: Will probably be eliminated this data point.

2144
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 6: What does that mean though, Like like artillery would need

2145
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 6: to fall in like four other organizational buildings, Like how

2146
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 6: do you get in with a one percent chance to

2147
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 6: make the playoff?

2148
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: There is a path in weekend?

2149
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they're not eliminated. They would need a thousand

2150
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 5: incredible to see a lot of things would need to

2151
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 5: happen here, here, anything else, No, gang, we've said it

2152
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 5: all all right, this is uh. You're gonna have like

2153
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 5: a fifteen minute post show draft to figure out.

2154
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 3: A draft after the draft.

2155
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's coming up for us, but that's private and

2156
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 2: you don't need to be involved with that, and you

2157
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 2: don't want to be involved with that. But remember adible

2158
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 2: header TNF Browns Jets Dreamatorium with me and Greggy. Where's Mark?

2159
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Another trip to the Currentist? Remember need that call