Speaker 1: Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dean Angler and Dared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast. Hey, we're gonna help
Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating a new episode. I'm, of course
Speaker 1: Jared Haven, joined by Dean Angler. We have a very
Speaker 1: special guest. You know her from the most recent season
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. It is Genevieve Paris. Genevieve, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. How are you doing? I'm doing well?
Speaker 1: Did you did I send your last name correctly? Did?
Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of myself. So before we jump
Speaker 1: into the episode, we have to talk to Dean for
Speaker 1: a quick second. Dean, where the hell are you? Hey? Guys? Uh,
Speaker 1: First of all, hello, good morning. UM, I hope you
Speaker 1: guys all had a great week. Um. Sorry, my friend
Speaker 1: isn't putting a seatbelt on. I'm driving through Mexico right now.
Speaker 1: We're at a We're at a bachelor party for one
Speaker 1: of my good buddies who's getting married in a couple
Speaker 1: of months. And you know, I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: be able to just like take ant like chip an
Speaker 1: out are out of the day and go record, But
Speaker 1: it turns out that's not that's not loud at the
Speaker 1: bachelor Party. I guess so I need a bottle out
Speaker 1: for today's episode, which I hate doing, you know, because
Speaker 1: this is the highlight of my week every single week,
Speaker 1: talking to you guys, getting to our emails. But I just, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm back into your corner here. Yes, uh, well,
Speaker 1: enjoy your time at the bachelor party. What part of
Speaker 1: Mexico you in. We're in Ensenata, not Inconitas like we
Speaker 1: all thought, but Ensnata. Where's Ensenata? Like four hours south
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles and we drove down. We're down here
Speaker 1: to serve in golf and we're going to like a
Speaker 1: vineyard today and stuff. You crossed, Juanna, you go past
Speaker 1: to Juanna. That's my friend Josh. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: I've probably gotta go before anything else. All right, did
Speaker 1: his audio drop? Oh god, Genevieve, Welcome to podcasting with
Speaker 1: Deany Davies. Holy God. Yeah, that was that's interesting. Any
Speaker 1: who welcome, Welcome to the podcast everyone, Genevieve, how are you?
Speaker 1: And JOm Well that was a nice start. Just constant
Speaker 1: chaos in the world of help. I suck a dating
Speaker 1: here at my Heart Radio, but we're very grateful for
Speaker 1: everybody who listens to this podcast. Sometimes I really wonder
Speaker 1: why they do. But I love it. I really do. Uh, Genevieve,
Speaker 1: obviously you were on this past season of the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: so I want to talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: You are from Massachusetts, right but you live in l A.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm actually in Massachusetts right now visiting family.
Speaker 1: But I am from here and I live in l A.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. The house that you're in, it
Speaker 1: was it looks such like a Massachusetts house. I love
Speaker 1: every second of it. Yeah, does not look like you're
Speaker 1: in l A. I am in Rhode Island. We are
Speaker 1: currently in West Grantwae, Rhode Island. My sister lives in Rhobeth. Oh,
Speaker 1: no way. My aunt lives in East Grantwich. Oh that's
Speaker 1: so funny. E G. Yeah, that's crazy. So we're moving.
Speaker 1: We're gonna build an e G. My favorite town ever
Speaker 1: is East Grantage. Uh do you go there a lot?
Speaker 1: I go there sometimes, like um family gatherings and stuffing
Speaker 1: little to my aunts. Often. I love it there. So
Speaker 1: my shameless plug. My favorite restaurant there is Lamas and
Speaker 1: it's right on Main Street. So there's also a main
Speaker 1: Street coffee there incredible place, one of the places that
Speaker 1: inspired me to open. So my my wife and I
Speaker 1: we opened a coffee shop slash lounge. It's called All
Speaker 1: Just Coffee House and Lounge. Uh and it's inspired for
Speaker 1: from a place in each Scrantage anyway. Uh, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: That's a coffee shop South Kingston, Rhode Island, so please do.
Speaker 1: It's in South County Commons. How long are you in
Speaker 1: Massachusetts for? I'm here for like a week and then
Speaker 1: going to New York for a week to visit my sister.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so awesome. Oh hell yeah, you gotta come down.
Speaker 1: Um well, I'm sure everybody loves us talking about Rhode Island, Massachusetts. Genevieve,
Speaker 1: how did you get on the Bachelor? Um? So someone
Speaker 1: actually reached out to me on Instagram, UM, and that
Speaker 1: they are casting for a dating show and UM, if
Speaker 1: I want to hear more information, just give her a call.
Speaker 1: So I did, and she said it was a Bachelor
Speaker 1: and I have I haven't watched recent seasons, but I
Speaker 1: watched um Colton season. Maybe that was the last one
Speaker 1: I watched. So however long ago that was um and
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, why not? So I went
Speaker 1: through the process and it was kind of last minute. Actually,
Speaker 1: they reached up to me pretty late, and I went
Speaker 1: through all the interviews and everything, and then they gave
Speaker 1: me the call and said I was on. And I
Speaker 1: tried to not get my hopes up. Um, so I
Speaker 1: was just waiting to hear and I was pretty surprised.
Speaker 1: And then I had a week. I had to pack
Speaker 1: everything and get everything ready and go Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I did the exact same thing. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get my hopes up. I didn't. I tried not telling
Speaker 1: anybody because I didn't want to be the person who
Speaker 1: was like, oh, casting to be on the Bachelorette and
Speaker 1: then not get on the show. And then even when
Speaker 1: I finally got the call to go on the show,
Speaker 1: I was convinced I was going to be like an
Speaker 1: extra because I heard that they fly extra people out
Speaker 1: who never go out night one. There's they like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if there's like twenty five people all night one, they'll
Speaker 1: fly out twenty eight and there's like three reserves, but
Speaker 1: they don't tell you your reserve. And then that night
Speaker 1: they say, hey, you know, so sorry, I just didn't
Speaker 1: work out. Yeah I know, So that's what I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact they reached out to me, I
Speaker 1: had a little confidence. I was like, hopefully they wouldn't
Speaker 1: be reaching out to me if they were just trying
Speaker 1: to cut me. But um, I still didn't want to
Speaker 1: get my hopes stuff like you said. So I was
Speaker 1: just waiting and like also the same thing I didn't
Speaker 1: I told my parents and that's about it, and my
Speaker 1: sister because I didn't want to. I didn't wanna like
Speaker 1: have that and then have you asking me and then
Speaker 1: you have to say no, I didn't make it. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of East Granted, I was mad at my mother
Speaker 1: because of course my mother cannot hold anything in. So
Speaker 1: I get the call finally that they wanted me to
Speaker 1: be on the show, and I begged my parents. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, buddy, but she was like, listen, I just
Speaker 1: on a small dinner with like your close family and friends,
Speaker 1: you know, as a send off. I'm like, mom, I
Speaker 1: could be home in three days, you know, like nothing
Speaker 1: could happen. But of course she wanted to do it,
Speaker 1: so I was like whatever. So we went to Meritage
Speaker 1: and East Grimwage and then it was so embarrassing because
Speaker 1: my mom was like, like to the waitress. She said like, oh,
Speaker 1: my son, my son's going to film. He he might
Speaker 1: be on the batch, He's gonna be on the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I'm a mom. Shut the hell up. I mean, thank god, hindsight,
Speaker 1: it all worked out. But I mean I was the
Speaker 1: final rose on night one. I could have easily just
Speaker 1: gone home and known like that none of this would
Speaker 1: have ever happened really soon, the final rods, how is
Speaker 1: that that's gonna be? Like I was like in the middle,
Speaker 1: and I was terrified. I was coming up like with
Speaker 1: every excuse in my head, like okay, hey, listen, you
Speaker 1: know it was. You had a great experience. You got
Speaker 1: you got to be on TV for a hot second.
Speaker 1: You got to see this Bachelor mansion and and meet
Speaker 1: producers and get flown out to l A like so
Speaker 1: many people can't say that you shouldn't be, you know,
Speaker 1: ashamed or anything like that. And then Caitlyn called my
Speaker 1: name and I was like talking your yeah, pep talking
Speaker 1: yourself right. I was like, oh, Paulie said, go down
Speaker 1: the driveway to the labdom, like repeating everything that he
Speaker 1: said for if you don't get a rose um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: luckily it worked out for both of us. Thank god.
Speaker 1: Uh so, what did you think of Clayton? How is
Speaker 1: your connection with him? Um? Mike connection with Clean it
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Um. It started off like there are
Speaker 1: these there were butterflies, and I feel like there was
Speaker 1: an instant connection, kind of a spark um as to
Speaker 1: sees them and on not getting a one on one
Speaker 1: and just kind of being on the group dates and
Speaker 1: not getting too much time you know how it works, um,
Speaker 1: not getting too much time and seeing all the other
Speaker 1: relationships past yours kind of um it it brought me
Speaker 1: back a bit, um and so not having that time
Speaker 1: Clayton and I we I really like him as a person,
Speaker 1: and I think he's an amazing person, But towards is
Speaker 1: he an amazing person? I don't know him. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's very nice. I since I was trying to give
Speaker 1: him a break on the show for everything that happened,
Speaker 1: kind of I like playing Devil's advocate. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've seen interviews since in social media and I'm like, huh,
Speaker 1: I wonder maybe I don't know, not say he's a
Speaker 1: bad person. OK. Yeah, So I mean, hey, I knew
Speaker 1: him for a month and I talked to him for
Speaker 1: a total hour of that month. So I don't really know,
Speaker 1: but I do think I've never been the lead obviously,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what it's like. But I feel
Speaker 1: like it has to be hard to navigate that. But
Speaker 1: with that said, watching the last episode, in the episode,
Speaker 1: the second to last episode, it's it's it's interesting because
Speaker 1: he did say to Susie to go back to all this.
Speaker 1: He did say I love you the most, and then
Speaker 1: he told Gabby and Rachel it's whoever I love the most,
Speaker 1: so bad. I do think it was just a mess
Speaker 1: and just wrong. But I think maybe in in the moment,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was thinking. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt because I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's like genis Shoes. But it was bad.
Speaker 1: Watching it back, I was like, oh gosh, and I
Speaker 1: felt terrible for Yeat meeting Rachel. Yeah, no, I I agree,
Speaker 1: And uh, I always trying to give people the benefit
Speaker 1: down on the show, because it's you're in the moment,
Speaker 1: You're surrounded by cameras, everything's amped up, especially when you
Speaker 1: know that something might not like if you know you
Speaker 1: made a mistake and then you're in your own head,
Speaker 1: so you try to overcorrect the mistake and you only
Speaker 1: end up making it worse and digging the hole deeper.
Speaker 1: And then you're aware that that's happening and everything is
Speaker 1: being recorded, and you're you realize you're spiraling out of control. Like,
Speaker 1: I get it. I get why people could just easily
Speaker 1: lose themselves for like ten minutes and then it just
Speaker 1: being horrible. Um anyhow, that's all I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: That interesting, Like I see social media too, like and
Speaker 1: it's back and some people are like, come on, give
Speaker 1: him a break with some people are like you, he
Speaker 1: didn't have to tell everyone he loves them, not to
Speaker 1: beg them to stay a lot of stuff, So it's hard.
Speaker 1: I want to. I do think he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: I think he has good intentions. I don't know about
Speaker 1: it in the right way. And I hope him and
Speaker 1: Susie do work out. I do really like being from
Speaker 1: the show, it's like I want these couples to work out.
Speaker 1: I really do. Yeah, yeah, no, And I do think, um,
Speaker 1: they seem really I mean, they seem happy, and we
Speaker 1: only get what's on social media, so we don't know.
Speaker 1: But um, I do hope that they work out too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how's life post show? Life? Will show? Has been good?
Speaker 1: At first, it was I just lept for like two
Speaker 1: weeks straight. I didn't get out of bed, and there
Speaker 1: was a lot. UM I was pretty anxious and just
Speaker 1: like not knowing, Like I'm about to watch myself on
Speaker 1: TV and I don't know what I'm gonna look like.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna sound like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how it's going to be edited. So it was scary.
Speaker 1: But after the first episode, UM, I started getting excited
Speaker 1: to watch it, and so life has been pretty good. Um,
Speaker 1: I've been kind of hanging low because I don't love
Speaker 1: going out and people like, oh my god, you're Genevieve
Speaker 1: and it's l A, so like a lot of people
Speaker 1: in l A. UM, I guess recognize you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been No, it's been good. It's been really good.
Speaker 1: Do you think people in l A recognize you? If
Speaker 1: you go out in Massachusetts? I bet you get way
Speaker 1: more people that were you know, I haven't been. I
Speaker 1: had this the first time I've been home since I
Speaker 1: got back since um it filmed air. Sorry, so we'll
Speaker 1: have to see. No need to apologize for that. I
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I uh, you know what. I completely understand
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. When when this show first happened,
Speaker 1: I would go out and people like can I have
Speaker 1: a picture with you? And I'd be like, I promise
Speaker 1: you don't want to picture with me? I'm I'm very lame.
Speaker 1: I like, that's the thing. I'm looked like this. You
Speaker 1: really want to be nobody. I know, trust me, I
Speaker 1: feel the same way. I still do. But honestly, it's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know when when I like step back, it's such
Speaker 1: a cool experience and so much fun and like a
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime. You know. Ashley and I are
Speaker 1: both very aware that one day no one's gonna want
Speaker 1: to picture with us, and that day is probably coming.
Speaker 1: So and so like, we like are really very humbled
Speaker 1: by anytime someone's like can I have a picture with you? Like,
Speaker 1: we would love that because that's really cool that anybody
Speaker 1: is excited to beat us. Um. But it is like
Speaker 1: it definitely takes time to get used to that because
Speaker 1: I remember the first it was just like weird, um,
Speaker 1: But that's good. So I'm I'm very curious. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can talk about it because there's so
Speaker 1: many there's so much speculation about Paradise coming up this year,
Speaker 1: whether it's going to happen or not, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: Talk to me if Paradise doesn't happen. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's just rumor mills on online, But my question
Speaker 1: to you is, is their potential for us to see
Speaker 1: you down in a beach Mexico. I want to I
Speaker 1: would like to think so or it could. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel like it's happening. I would hope so.
Speaker 1: I've I've seen these rumors too, and I'm like wondering
Speaker 1: where they're coming from. Okay, well, I'm assuming the rumors
Speaker 1: are coming from the fact that The Bachelorette is not
Speaker 1: earning until July, and usually Paradise airs in August. So
Speaker 1: that makes me think when is Paradise going to air?
Speaker 1: Because if Bachelorette airs in July, are they going to
Speaker 1: air Paradise and Bachelorette simultaneously or they're going to push
Speaker 1: Paradise back to like whenever The Hell Bachelor it would
Speaker 1: be air in September October. I would think, if I
Speaker 1: had to guess, it would be after I feel like
Speaker 1: after the Bachelorette, I feel like this is an educated guess,
Speaker 1: which I like it is. We're breaking news here and
Speaker 1: help I suck at dating. We have an insider that's
Speaker 1: how so Eastern. If you're listening, let's make sure the
Speaker 1: name of this podcast is breaking news. Paradise will air
Speaker 1: in September. Inside source confirms. And now I'm teasing. I'm teasing.
Speaker 1: I honestly like it could not happen. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I really do hope that to this and I
Speaker 1: hope that we see would you so you would say
Speaker 1: yes if if I hasked to go back on Paradise. Um,
Speaker 1: most likely if I were asked, I would go good.
Speaker 1: That's also my advice for everybody when they're like should
Speaker 1: I do Paradise or should I not do Paradise? My advice,
Speaker 1: I mean, pent of the time it's very rare, is
Speaker 1: do it. Go on Paradise, have fun, enjoy it. Because
Speaker 1: I've had friends excuse me, who have said no to
Speaker 1: Paradise for a multitude of reasons, and then the following
Speaker 1: year they're like, Okay, I'm ready to go on Paradise now.
Speaker 1: And productions like, well we have you know, guys and
Speaker 1: new girls like if we you know, of course we'd
Speaker 1: love to have you on, but we're just trying to
Speaker 1: figure everything out right now, and then they don't get
Speaker 1: invited on, and it sucks because they lose that opportunity.
Speaker 1: You know, that's true. I know it's crazy because it
Speaker 1: seems like, well, if you just finished filming in what
Speaker 1: in October November, it seems like we're jumping right back
Speaker 1: into it. If like we did, it would probably be
Speaker 1: filming probably in the summer. So it seems like a lot.
Speaker 1: But like you said, I think I would regret it
Speaker 1: if I think so, and just to give it a shot,
Speaker 1: just to give it a shot. See if I meet
Speaker 1: someone and you met, didn't you meet? Ashley? Yes, we
Speaker 1: met on the show. We ended up dating off the show.
Speaker 1: It's a very long, convoluted story, and then we ended
Speaker 1: up making a cameo on Paradise where we got engaged,
Speaker 1: which is really cool because even though it's on the show,
Speaker 1: that really was the beach where we first met, so
Speaker 1: it was very significant to both of us. Um. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we met on Paradise. Hell, yeah, that's awesome. And see,
Speaker 1: I really do, like I've seen a lot of couples
Speaker 1: come out of it. So I have hopes. I have
Speaker 1: high hopes for it. So I do hope that it happens,
Speaker 1: and I hope I'm invited and I get to be there. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope all of the same. In Paradise definitely has
Speaker 1: the highest success rate I think of couples. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm more than Bachelor and Bachelor seasons. I would say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very sad that Bachelor and Bachelor it's just don't
Speaker 1: last anymore. It's very tragic. But Paradise keep it strong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I'll try. If I'm there, I was trying
Speaker 1: to keep it. Come out of that, all right. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break, uh, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back and we have some hot topics and emails
Speaker 1: to go over. So sleepy tune, all right, welcome back
Speaker 1: to help I suck at dating. We have a couple
Speaker 1: of hot topics. Dean is still down in Mexico doing
Speaker 1: god knows what. I just hope he's driving safely because
Speaker 1: it sounded like there was like a lot of dudes
Speaker 1: in one car buckling up while he was trying to
Speaker 1: record a podcast very quickly, and it was early in
Speaker 1: the morning. And hopefully they're not drinking yet, so I
Speaker 1: know Bachelor parties fingers crossed. Everything is going well down there.
Speaker 1: But Genevieve, we do have a couple of hot topics
Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about. First and foremost, do
Speaker 1: you know who Andy Dorfman is? She was a former Bachelorette? Yeah, actually,
Speaker 1: um so she recently. Just so, she was the Bachelorette
Speaker 1: before my season, well not my season, but the season
Speaker 1: I was on of The Bachelor at Kitlin. And that
Speaker 1: crazy thing about it's so weird because like I always
Speaker 1: just talk about people as if everybody knows. But Nick Vial,
Speaker 1: who's a very good friend of mine. Nick was on
Speaker 1: Andy season first before he crashed our season of the Bachelorette,
Speaker 1: where he came halfway through Caitlin season, and uh, it's weird.
Speaker 1: I remember before I went on the Bachelorette, I watched
Speaker 1: an episode of Andy season to prepare myself to say, okay,
Speaker 1: well what you know. I mean, I obviously know of
Speaker 1: the show, but you know, to watch it and see
Speaker 1: what it's about. And I remember seeing an episode where
Speaker 1: Nick was just being crucified by his fellow cast members
Speaker 1: and they made him look like the biggest jerk and uh,
Speaker 1: it's so funny to think that that was Nick. Um. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: I did do a podcast with him, so I have
Speaker 1: met him. Oh you did, Yeah, okay, cool. Nick's awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh good. Uh he's a good dude. I love Nick. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's such an acquired taste. But not anymore well, honestly,
Speaker 1: like I don't feel I feel like he's just not
Speaker 1: to talk about Nick. But um, you know, I used
Speaker 1: to always say about Nick that there was like such
Speaker 1: moments of greatness within him. I'm there, like, but then
Speaker 1: there'd be moments where like we it would literally just
Speaker 1: beat me and him at lunch and he would be
Speaker 1: on his phone percent of the time and just like that,
Speaker 1: Oh I did it. But I know. Um, but then
Speaker 1: there'll be moments of Nick that were just so good
Speaker 1: and he was such a good friend. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: We were watching, uh the Bruins, the Boston Bruins. I'm
Speaker 1: a Boston Bruins fan. They were in the Stanley Cup Finals.
Speaker 1: I was living in l A at the time, and
Speaker 1: we went out to go watch the game and with
Speaker 1: our friends Tanner and Jade, who are also a Bachelor
Speaker 1: Paradise couple, and they have a couple of kids, and
Speaker 1: Nick was there as well, and it was me and
Speaker 1: Ashley and then Tanner and Jade. There was I don't forget,
Speaker 1: there was like a moment and like the kids were
Speaker 1: crying and Tanner couldn't help, and Jade was like emotional.
Speaker 1: I forget, Like it was just like a very quick
Speaker 1: moment where the kids were crying, and I remember Nick
Speaker 1: just like grabbed the baby and it was like I
Speaker 1: got this and just like helped rock the baby and
Speaker 1: and like let Jade like compose herself for a minute
Speaker 1: while Tanner, I think with dealing was dealing with the
Speaker 1: other kid. And I was like, bro, that like that's awesome.
Speaker 1: That said something, Yeah, thats something about him. Yeah it does,
Speaker 1: you know, it really does. And but now I think so, like,
Speaker 1: but now I feel like that that Nick that was
Speaker 1: like there sixty percent of the time and the other
Speaker 1: was when he was on his phone all the time
Speaker 1: at lunch. Like he's that way a hundred percent at
Speaker 1: the time now. And I think he's so happy with Natalie,
Speaker 1: which is his girlfriend. It's like really cool to see
Speaker 1: that he's just completely head over heels in love with
Speaker 1: this girl. And uh, Anyhow, it's weird talking about he
Speaker 1: does not do do you know like that guy? Do
Speaker 1: you know how many of my friends are like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: not my friends, but like how many people coming to
Speaker 1: the coffee shop? And I'm like, oh, like, who do
Speaker 1: you want me to you know, ask to come to
Speaker 1: the coffee shop and do an event with so many Nick,
Speaker 1: so many Nick fans? Oh? Yeah, they just they want to.
Speaker 1: There's like a certain appealed on Nick, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, who are some of the other people
Speaker 1: that like they'll say like most popular? Well obviously like
Speaker 1: they just like they I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: who know, like who like come in and want to
Speaker 1: talk to Ashley and I know that we're really good
Speaker 1: friends with Dean and Ben and Nick, and so they
Speaker 1: probably say those obviously Tyler Cameron big you know, you
Speaker 1: know he's a big hit. Uh mostly yeah, most of
Speaker 1: these guys, I guess, uh, who the hell else? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know if um but what was I saying?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what. Oh Andy Dorfan, Holy sh it,
Speaker 1: I can't believe in one of this huge around she's engaged. No,
Speaker 1: it was she's engaged. So Andy Dorfman is engaged to
Speaker 1: her boyfriend will now Fancy Blaine Heart and she says
Speaker 1: that I finally found love, which is really cool. I've
Speaker 1: only met Andy. I met her twice. I think the
Speaker 1: first time was at Tanner and Jade's wedding. Um, God, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I back, Holy crap, that was six years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds it just sounds so long ago. How old you, Genevieve?
Speaker 1: I feel I'm twenty six. How old are you? I'm
Speaker 1: thirty three, So you were twenty you were twenty back
Speaker 1: until the sixteen. Yeah, Oh my god. I worked with
Speaker 1: so many college students too at the coffee shop because
Speaker 1: you know, we're next to a university, and it's just
Speaker 1: so bad because I'm I feel old, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm not old and thirty three, but man,
Speaker 1: there is like a generational gap. It's apparent. It's apparent. Um,
Speaker 1: but Andy Dorfman is engaged. I want to say congratulations.
Speaker 1: That's super exciting for obviously, she was on Juan Pablo
Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor. Uh, we're that whole thing where
Speaker 1: like he was like it's okay, it's okay, and she's like,
Speaker 1: it's not okay. Now, I do remember. I don't remember
Speaker 1: how the Stuthan ended, but I remember he wasn't a
Speaker 1: favorite one Pablo. Uh yeah, I just remember that moment. Um.
Speaker 1: So I didn't see that season, but of course I
Speaker 1: went back um and watched that moment because it was
Speaker 1: what so many people talked about, where he was like
Speaker 1: it's okay, It's okay, and she's like, it's not okay.
Speaker 1: And then she wrote a book titled It's Not Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did not go back? Yeah? Um, So
Speaker 1: I want to say congratulations to Andy Darfman on being engaged.
Speaker 1: That's super exciting. Uh, very happy for I know it's
Speaker 1: a long time coming Andy. Yeah, congrats Andy. Obviously she's
Speaker 1: a big fan of the podcast. She listens all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. I'm kidding. She definitely doesn't look kidding. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then our second headline, of course, we got to
Speaker 1: talk about the Will Smith Chris Rock uh slap herd
Speaker 1: around the world. Did you see this moment? I did.
Speaker 1: I've just seen it like all over social media. Were
Speaker 1: you watching live? Oh? I was not watching Live for you.
Speaker 1: I was because Ashley was upstairs recording a podcast. I
Speaker 1: was like flipping in and out of the Oscars. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge film buff. I love the Oscars. Unfortunately I
Speaker 1: don't really care anymore as most people don't. UM, So
Speaker 1: I was kind of in and out, but thank god
Speaker 1: I was watching so my my my wife and I
Speaker 1: have an eight week old is Davids Dawson, So I
Speaker 1: was holding Dawson and uh. I was watching it and
Speaker 1: Chris Rock came out and I was thinking to my head,
Speaker 1: I was like, I wish Chris Rock was hosting the
Speaker 1: Oscars this year. That would have been fun. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then he made the joke, the g I Jane joke,
Speaker 1: and I obviously had no idea that Jada Pickett Smith
Speaker 1: had alopecia, and uh. And then I saw it and
Speaker 1: I saw Will Smith walk up and slap him, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's it's, you know, obviously a
Speaker 1: bit and ha ha. And then I it was weird
Speaker 1: because on the live broadcast it just went silent for
Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds and they showed Will Smith and you
Speaker 1: can easily read his lips where he said, get my
Speaker 1: wife's name out your f and mouth, and it showed that,
Speaker 1: but it was silent, and then I was like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on and then I saw the
Speaker 1: rest of Chris Rocks, you know, where he was doing
Speaker 1: the nominations, and he was so flustered, and I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, there's no way this is real. There is
Speaker 1: no way that Will Smith just slapped Chris Rock on
Speaker 1: stage at the Oscars, and then of course ended up
Speaker 1: being real. Yeah, I think it's real. Everyone's still sitting
Speaker 1: it's a bit. I'm like, no, I don't think Bill
Speaker 1: Smith would do that to himself, Like, I don't think yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Well Smith would have screamed, get your
Speaker 1: wife's get my wife's name out of and mouth if
Speaker 1: it wasn't real. I mean, did you see Lupida Nuonga's
Speaker 1: reaction in the background. Yes, yes, it was so good
Speaker 1: she was It was so good. It was like everyone's
Speaker 1: reaction around the world. Everybody just looked at Lupeto and
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that was exactly exactly how I reacted.
Speaker 1: At first, I didn't know, like I had to figure
Speaker 1: out all the stuff behind it. I didn't know she
Speaker 1: had alopecia, and I apparently Chris Rock did not know either. Um,
Speaker 1: And I never think it's okay to make fun of
Speaker 1: someone's mental health or physical health or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: But like, I think there's a time and place and
Speaker 1: going up there and snacking someone, and like there's been
Speaker 1: a full audience too, So I feel like it just
Speaker 1: flustered everyone, not only Chris Rock. So it was it
Speaker 1: was a lot could have been handled differently. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think listen, Yeah, it was a joke that was probably
Speaker 1: a little below the belt. You know, he might not
Speaker 1: have known that she had alopecia and that you know,
Speaker 1: it was maybe distasteful. Okay, we can all move on
Speaker 1: from that. But Will Smith walked up. I guess what
Speaker 1: bothers me is a sense of entitling because I love
Speaker 1: Will Smith. He's one of my favorite actors of all time,
Speaker 1: and you know he still is. I I still love
Speaker 1: his movies. It's not like this is tarnishing, you know,
Speaker 1: his entire character for me. But still, like the sin,
Speaker 1: it's an entitlement that you have to have to walk
Speaker 1: up on stage, slap another person, walk back, sit down
Speaker 1: in front of hundreds of people and hundreds of people
Speaker 1: in the auditorium and millions of people watching, and just
Speaker 1: like not expect any repercussions. And then I mean there's
Speaker 1: so many like reports coming out that like, oh, the
Speaker 1: oscars asked him to leave and he refused, and then
Speaker 1: you know the l a p D was ready to
Speaker 1: arrest him, but Chris Rock said, no, I don't want
Speaker 1: to press any charges. The fact is security at the
Speaker 1: Like I I totally get and I respect that. Chris
Speaker 1: Rock was like, no, I don't want to make a
Speaker 1: situation worse, I don't want press charges. Totally totally respect
Speaker 1: that and get it, and I like, I love Chris
Speaker 1: Rock and I only love Chris Rock Moore after this moment.
Speaker 1: But like, as whoever's running the OSCARS, like you gotta
Speaker 1: just get security in and if Will Smith refuses to leave,
Speaker 1: you get security and you escort. Now, like you can't
Speaker 1: just allow one guy to literally hit another person and
Speaker 1: then just not do anything about it. And then he
Speaker 1: wins best Yeah, like it down. He literally just sat
Speaker 1: down like he like, did you see him fix his
Speaker 1: code after like after he slapped him walking back, he
Speaker 1: like fix his code and then sat down like nothing
Speaker 1: just happened. Yeah, and it seems so out of character
Speaker 1: for will Smith. That was the crazy part, like what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? And then he was partying afterwards.
Speaker 1: You see the videos, like he was saying getting jiggy
Speaker 1: with it, and it was just like this is weird
Speaker 1: because he never you know, he obviously apologized to Chris
Speaker 1: Rock the day after, which is all PR talk at
Speaker 1: that point, you know, um, and his speech was it
Speaker 1: was a little all over the place, like I didn't know,
Speaker 1: nobody knew what the hell he was gonna say, and
Speaker 1: he was emotional. It was like a heavy moment. But
Speaker 1: like then the like everybody gave him a standing ovation
Speaker 1: and was like, what the hell is going on? I
Speaker 1: didn't know, see I didn't watch the whole thing, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like do something about it, because it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's totally fine. He's allowed to stay and get a
Speaker 1: standing ovation and all this when he just assaulted someone. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: like he slapped him. And I understand, like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's let's not go overboard. I'm not saying that he
Speaker 1: should be, like, you know, in jail for ten years
Speaker 1: over this, but like, I mean, he how can you
Speaker 1: got to escort him out? And I know that they say,
Speaker 1: well he refused, Yeah, you get security. You know, you say, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: well we're going to get security. We're gonna escort you
Speaker 1: out because we can't allow you to stay here after
Speaker 1: you just assaulted another guy in front of millions of people.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It was a weird situation, uh,
Speaker 1: and very weird. I didn't know what to think of it.
Speaker 1: At first. I was like, Okay, chriss option have made
Speaker 1: fun of Jada for her hair or no hair. But
Speaker 1: then I was like, this is just that would have
Speaker 1: been handled so much differently, And yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you can absolutely say like, hey, listen, that joke was distasteful,
Speaker 1: like you should have said it. Uh, but you know,
Speaker 1: when you you can't just set a precedent like hey,
Speaker 1: I didn't like that joke, so now I'm gonna walk
Speaker 1: up and slap the dude. You know. It's like Jesus. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: weird moment. Obviously, I'm sure nobody cares about our opinions.
Speaker 1: And then that's the other thing. I actually really like
Speaker 1: Daniel Radcliffe when he I don't know if he's sawing,
Speaker 1: He's on some talk show and he's like, I'm so
Speaker 1: bored of everybody's opinion about this, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but we host a podcast, so we gotta
Speaker 1: like at least say our two cents on it very quickly. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: even if it went a little longer than I guess, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we gave our thoughts. Sorry about that, guys.
Speaker 1: You can fast forward to the last part. Um, let's
Speaker 1: get to one quick email before we wrap this podcast up.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's take one quick break.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to help I suck at dating.
Speaker 1: Of course, Jenevieve is still here to help us answer
Speaker 1: our anonymous email. Uh if there's any uh producer or
Speaker 1: Eastern Mark Hannah, Oh no, East did uh? All right,
Speaker 1: I'll read the email. I got it. I'll take care
Speaker 1: of it, Hannah, don't worry about it. I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: it today's email because Mark and Eastern are not here.
Speaker 1: So we'll get right into it with one of our
Speaker 1: favorite emailers, Anonymous Genevieve. We just like to pretend that
Speaker 1: there's only one anonymous emailer who just keeps sending us
Speaker 1: emails and this is the story of of their life. Um. So,
Speaker 1: Anonymous says, my boyfriend and I just moved out of
Speaker 1: state together. We have been together going on four years
Speaker 1: now now. He lived out of state for two years
Speaker 1: during peak COVID times and I would visit in three
Speaker 1: to month at three to four month gaps. But this
Speaker 1: is our first time living together full time. We have
Speaker 1: always had a healthy relationship and great communication. For our move,
Speaker 1: we never really fought at all. Everything was so natural
Speaker 1: and easy. Recently we have been in a place that
Speaker 1: feels so defeating and can't seem to stay in a
Speaker 1: constant good place. He travels for work and I have
Speaker 1: pretty bad anxiety, making it hard to stay home alone overnight.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's so much love within our relationship, but oftentimes
Speaker 1: it feels like we're coexisting rather than dating each other.
Speaker 1: I guess my question for you is how do you
Speaker 1: take yourself out of the sad codes coexisting funk and
Speaker 1: get back to the way that our relationship used to be. Um,
Speaker 1: that's tough. That is especially because I've never been in
Speaker 1: like anything even close to that. I've never lived with
Speaker 1: like a significant other. So but that is tough. That's
Speaker 1: really tough. What's your longest relationship? What was that? So?
Speaker 1: What's your longest relationship? Um? Two and a half years.
Speaker 1: So you can relate a move in college, so like
Speaker 1: it's just like a college relationship. Not seriously not living together. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's a tough one. What do your thoughts? Uh? So,
Speaker 1: I think one thing people forget is that it takes
Speaker 1: effort within a relationship that you it doesn't it just
Speaker 1: doesn't come naturally. I think relationships evolved. I think love
Speaker 1: evolves and it changes. And I'm not saying it's better
Speaker 1: or for worse. I think ultimately it's for better, but
Speaker 1: that does mean it changes. You know, there's no butterflies anymore.
Speaker 1: There's none of that like flirtatious banter back and forth,
Speaker 1: like you hang out, you talk to each other every day.
Speaker 1: You know, it just becomes stagnant. So I think my
Speaker 1: advice for you would be, for anonymous, would be to
Speaker 1: really try to put effort into making the relationship flirtatious again.
Speaker 1: And that's gonna, unfortunately mean that you have to kind
Speaker 1: of go out of your way. A lot of people,
Speaker 1: I think within a relationship for saying well, if it
Speaker 1: doesn't come natural, then like it's obviously I'm not with
Speaker 1: the right person, to which I would were button say, well,
Speaker 1: I think that after a couple of years, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna come so naturally anymore, and that's okay. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you should break up with them. It just
Speaker 1: means that you have to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: to you know, infuse um some some life back into
Speaker 1: relationship whatever that means, like setting a day apart and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, listen, Friday nights is for us. You know,
Speaker 1: that's our date night. We go out to dinner, we
Speaker 1: go to see a movie, we hang in, we do
Speaker 1: whatever we want to do. Um, you know, even doing
Speaker 1: like surprise little things, you know, like coming home. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you just like just gonna sound ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but just like making out on the couch, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, just do something different. Yeah. No, And
Speaker 1: I like what you said about like setting a day
Speaker 1: like Friday night is for us, And like she said,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Anonymous said that the uh, the partner travels
Speaker 1: a lot, so like that's something to look forward to
Speaker 1: when they get back to have that night together. And
Speaker 1: like like just little things like doing like doing little
Speaker 1: things for each other, bringing some in the coffee. Um,
Speaker 1: just little things like that. I feel like you can
Speaker 1: keep it like alive. Yeah. I agree. Life is made
Speaker 1: up of small moments that are added together to creative life.
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, Anonymously, I hope that helped definitely, just uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember I've said this multiple times on
Speaker 1: the podcast, but it's such a good piece of advice
Speaker 1: that I want to repeat it. And I think one
Speaker 1: of the best advice that I ever got towards our
Speaker 1: relationship is saying that don't forget the person that you
Speaker 1: are going to hopefully spend the rest of your life with,
Speaker 1: is the person that you will have a conversation with
Speaker 1: every day for the rest of your life. So make
Speaker 1: sure that you're married with you know, you you married
Speaker 1: someone that you really enjoy hanging out with, uh and
Speaker 1: having good conversation with, and um, you know that's definitely
Speaker 1: me and Ashley. I find that I always love talking Ashley,
Speaker 1: I always love hanging out with Ashley. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that we have a perfect relationship. And I can
Speaker 1: relate to Anonymous that there are times, especially with the
Speaker 1: kid and pregnancy and getting older, were like, there are
Speaker 1: those moments where it does feel like, oh, we're just
Speaker 1: kind of like co existing a little bit and we're
Speaker 1: not really dating, and so we we really try at
Speaker 1: times to prioritize our relationship as well and say, hey, listen, like,
Speaker 1: you know, tonight we're going out to dinner, or tonight
Speaker 1: we're watching a movie together or cuddling or doing ever
Speaker 1: whatever we need to do. And it has really helped,
Speaker 1: and it makes us feel like we're dating again instead
Speaker 1: of just like hanging out. Right, Yeah, I feel with
Speaker 1: kids and stuff. That just that's a whole another fall game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes it is. There's just there's there's p everywhere,
Speaker 1: there's spit up everywhere, and it's just like you just
Speaker 1: you know, there's no I can't I believe it. It's
Speaker 1: fun though, it's really fun. He's yeah, he's a good kid. Uh.
Speaker 1: Luckily eight weeks or eight months, eight weeks he was
Speaker 1: born January one, there'll be nine weeks on Monday. Wow,
Speaker 1: how cute. Well, thank you very much. She got Dawson
Speaker 1: from Titanic. Oh okay, Jack Dawson. Uh huh. So she's
Speaker 1: had this name picked out for like to two years
Speaker 1: of her life. I'm not joking, so I'm but oh
Speaker 1: I sweart of God. But I liked it. So when
Speaker 1: she first told me, thank you, Yeah, that's so funny
Speaker 1: that just had to pick up thank you, all right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this episode of Help I
Speaker 1: Suck At Dating. Once again, Dean, we are sending you
Speaker 1: our love. Please be safe and we'll see you next week. Genevieve,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for recording with us. We really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I think you're gonna be on Thursday's episodes.
Speaker 1: We have two episodes that come out each week, Monday
Speaker 1: and Thursday, or Sunday night and Thursday, UH, and I
Speaker 1: believe that you're gonna be on Thursday's episode as well,
Speaker 1: so we look forward to that. And we have a
Speaker 1: guest Geordanna Abraham that will be on Thursday's episode. But
Speaker 1: once again, thank you everybody who's listening. Please keep emailing us.
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