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Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today.

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis FED President Neil Kashkari says the US will likely

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Speaker 2: have a slowing economy, but the country will avoid a recession.

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Speaker 2: He told CBS has faced the nation that US inflation.

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Speaker 3: The outlook is quite positive.

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Speaker 4: The economy continues to surprise how resilient it is. That's

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Speaker 4: low at three point six percent. Nonetheless, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: Despite the positive inflation data. Kashkari said that the fed's

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Speaker 2: He said unemployment may reach four percent. On Friday, we'll

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Speaker 2: get the closely watched US jobs report. It's projected to

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Speaker 2: show that higher increase at a healthy, yet more moderate clip.

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Speaker 2: Kashkari said that the FED will remain data dependent as

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Speaker 1: As mentioned earlier, it's going to be a big week

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Speaker 1: for US earnings, including megacap Tech the story from Bloomberg's

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Speaker 5: Apple and Amazon are both scheduled to report quarterly results

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Speaker 5: after the closing bell Thursday. Investors will be watching for

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Speaker 5: more about Apple asking suppliers to keep iPhone shipments flat.

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Speaker 5: You're on your We're also hearing Apple expects revenue to

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Speaker 5: Apple's reliance on Chinese manufacturing is also of concern because

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Speaker 5: will be interested in anything Apple has to say about AI.

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Speaker 5: As for Amazon, Bloomberg Intelligence says, watch to see if

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Speaker 5: strength and streaming and advertising will be offset by slowing

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Speaker 5: Amazon's push into pharmacy and grocery will be of interest. Shopify, PayPal, Qualcom,

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Speaker 5: Western Digital, and Advanced micro Devices also report this coming week,

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Speaker 5: along with Pfizer and merc Denise Pelgriny Bloomberg day Break Asia.

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Speaker 2: US banks have been told to step up their contingency

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Speaker 6: Agencies, including the Federal Reserve and the FDIC, have told

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Speaker 6: times of stress to ensure they have access to a

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Speaker 6: range of liquidity sources. The issue was spotlighted by the

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Speaker 6: collapse of Silicon Valley Bank earlier this year. The guidance

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Speaker 6: is part of a bid by federal regulators to encourage

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Speaker 6: of their contingency planning. In Washington and Kates Bloomberg Day

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Speaker 1: We go to China next, where the government says it

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Speaker 1: will soon announce new measures to boost consumption the story

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Speaker 7: These new directives follow a slew of other policies unfailed

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Speaker 7: in recent weeks to revived economy growth. Momentum weakened in

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Speaker 7: rural consumption. The new consumption package will be announced this

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Speaker 7: afternoon in Beijing. In Hong Kong, I'm Bonnie Olt Bloomberg

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Speaker 2: Meantime, Francis Finance Minister Bruno Lamarre has called on Chinese

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Speaker 2: companies to invest more in Europe. Bloomberg's Joan Wong has

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Speaker 8: Lamire said his talks in Beijing were positive on a

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Speaker 8: Lamire said he wants to get better access in China.

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Speaker 8: Decoupling is not possible. More meetings will be held in

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Speaker 2: And on that Bruno Lamier said that de risking with

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting to see what the

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Speaker 1: I was struck by the news last Friday, Brian, As

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're well aware that the Security Regulatory Commission

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Speaker 2: Well, that for sure, But to even have them push

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Speaker 2: People can look for on the terminal that the year

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Speaker 1: Speaking of walls of worry, another story from the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: involvement in the ev supply chain of That was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for global news.

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Speaker 2: Germany is warning officials its own officials that China is

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Speaker 2: stepping up spying in the country. At Baxter has Global

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Speaker 2: News from the nine to sixty newsroom in San Francisco.

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Speaker 9: Ed.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, when you go see Barbie, Brian, We're endeavoring to

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Speaker 10: get your doll to take in with you.

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Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, as you say. Germany warning its officials about

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Speaker 11: We would tell our universities you either take Chinese money

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Speaker 11: Cause of debt for adults eighteen to forty nine. Margaret

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Speaker 11: say to China, we will end all normal trade relations

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Speaker 12: For years, Chinese laboratories have been cooking up formulas of

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Speaker 10: Schumer says the bill will allow the president to declare

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis in Hong Kong, along with Rashad Salomat

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Speaker 2: in London, and our guest is Steve Sasnik, chief strategist

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Speaker 2: at Interactive Brokers. Steve, I almost don't know where to start.

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Speaker 2: We've got a pretty quiet vis at thirteen. We've got

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm actually sort of of that same belief

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Speaker 9: and you you know, there's a million many different ways

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Speaker 13: Is it time? Then if it is concerning, Steve to

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Speaker 13: perhaps change your out, perhaps look elsewhere, perhaps look a

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Speaker 13: different asset classes, emerging markets instead.

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Speaker 9: be looking at alternatives. I think, you know, especially when

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Speaker 9: it's tough to move away. It's tough to it's tough

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Speaker 9: There are places to put your money that that that

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Speaker 2: Can we sniff out a little bit of coordination efforts

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean, the BOJ you know, sort of

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, and it's interesting, you know, you win Powell switch

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Speaker 9: It's not just China. I think global markets are screened,

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Speaker 9: And I and you know the story, the story that

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Speaker 9: that that you know, That's that's what traders want to hear,

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Speaker 9: is you know, anything any stimulative, any stimulus. But we've

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Speaker 9: I think what it hasn't happened. The markets have been

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Speaker 9: we say, traders want to hear that sort of thing,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Risch asked you about emerging markets earlier, and I

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Speaker 2: think we can note that EEM has had a nice

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Speaker 2: How how strong could this phase be about money? Perhaps

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Speaker 2: eases out of US stocks that it feeds into emerging

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Speaker 9: That really becomes a question of does the risk on

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Speaker 9: and especially if if, if we really do skirt a recession. Well,

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Speaker 9: risk on markets. You know, the dollar. You know that

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Speaker 2: Okay, Steve, we got really one time for one more question.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to steal too much time from Ed Baxter,

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Speaker 2: although he did have me carrying a Barbie doll into

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Speaker 2: the movie theater. But anyway, number one, pick here, what's

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