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Speaker 1: It's the Fred Show. Adam, good morning, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Do it okay? What's going on with this woman? Kristen?

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Speaker 1: I gotta know how you met, about any dates that

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Speaker 1: you've been on and where things are now? In waiting

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Speaker 1: by the phone because you feel like maybe she's ghosting you?

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Speaker 4: Right? Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean though me and Kristin I met by

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Speaker 3: the pool at our gym one weekend, and I mean

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Speaker 3: we were both just kind of hanging out with friends

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Speaker 3: and so like both we were both in the pool

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Speaker 3: and we just kind of started talking and so like

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Speaker 3: I was like, I really want this conversation to keep going.

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Speaker 3: So I asked her out and she said yes, so

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Speaker 3: she gave me your number, and so like we texted

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Speaker 4: And then we decided that we wanted to take it further,

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Speaker 4: so we met up for drinks and the like drinks

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Speaker 4: that week. We ended up doing really really well and.

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Speaker 3: So like even before the date, like our artechts were

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Speaker 3: getting super super party and I mean even even a

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Speaker 3: then when we met, we had like just this in

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Speaker 3: person chemistry that didn't disappoint and it was going really

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Speaker 3: really good. Like I mean I was even late to

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Speaker 3: work the next day because like we had ended up

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Speaker 3: having so much late night fun.

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Speaker 4: But I mean ever since that date, like I just

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Speaker 4: haven't heard from her, and I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Things were going well. She agreed that things were going well,

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Speaker 4: and I mean, I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always kind of crazy when this happens, because

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Speaker 1: it's like everything was going so well. I mean the

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Speaker 1: way you describe it, all this chemistry and all this

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Speaker 1: sort of you know, fun stuff, going on at night,

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Speaker 1: you're late to work. I mean, this is all this

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Speaker 1: all sounds great, except for whatever reason, something must have happened.

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Speaker 1: And now I assume you've texted, You've called Christen, you've

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Speaker 1: you know, carried your pigeons and smoke signals and everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Like send her an over abundant, like desperate amount of

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Speaker 4: text but like I did a couple of check in texts.

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Speaker 4: They even tried to call her one night and on

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Speaker 4: a preset schedule with work, and so like those were

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Speaker 4: and so like I tried to call her one night

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Speaker 4: and she just didn't pick up. And so I don't

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Speaker 4: want to be like a stalker and keep texting, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: we don't know what, but I just kind of want

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Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense. So we're going to play a song,

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Speaker 1: come back in a couple of minutes. We'll all Kristin,

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Speaker 1: you'll be on the phone, Adham. We're gonna ask these

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Speaker 1: all right, let's call Kristin. You guys, you met at

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Speaker 1: at the pool right with with your friends, and you

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Speaker 1: exchange numbers, texted, you know, things kind of got there

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Speaker 1: by his description, and you guys have gone out and

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Speaker 1: normally would. It appears that you're being ghosted. You want

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Speaker 1: to know why. Okay, let's call Kristin now. Good luck, Adam.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but thinks HI is this Kristin? Hey Kristin,

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Speaker 1: good morning. My name is Fredam calling for the Fred Show,

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Speaker 1: the morning radio show, and I have to tell you

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Speaker 1: we are on the radio right now, and I do

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Speaker 1: need your permission to continue with the call. Said, okay,

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Speaker 5: I guess, I guess I guess that's yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well thank you. We're calling out behalf of a

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Speaker 1: guy named Adam. I guess you met him at the

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Speaker 1: at the pool and you hung out a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I guess you guys went on some dates

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Speaker 1: and going out with him?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Okay, So he describes to us a minute ago

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Speaker 1: what he thought was, you know, this this great story

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Speaker 1: about meeting and all the chemistry you guys had, the

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Speaker 1: dates you've been on. But he says he can't get

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Speaker 1: a hold of you now, So what's going on with that?

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Speaker 1: Why are we ignoring Adam?

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Speaker 5: Okay, listen, Adam is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's attractive, he's charming, he's confident, he has great energy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's the butt? Where's the problem? I want to

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Speaker 1: go out with it? So we did.

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Speaker 5: We did go out. Okay, just sex was amazing.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so interesting, Okay, all right, just wait for it.

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Speaker 1: He's leaving my place and you know.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about, you know, meeting up again, and he

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Speaker 2: just casually slips in now you know, Oh, he just

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Speaker 2: has to work it around, you know, like his kids

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Speaker 2: swim schedule, which okay, yeah, cool, you've got kids, fine,

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Speaker 2: and his wife's works schedule. Oh how do you think

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Speaker 2: I felt having just had this amazing night with this

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Speaker 1: Has a wife. Okay, so hold us. So you guys,

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Speaker 1: you met, you talked, you hooked up, you went on dates.

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Speaker 1: You didn't mention a way he never mentioned that he

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Speaker 1: was married. And then like in passing he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow, but if my wife can pick up the kids.

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Speaker 5: Cos it out there like it's nothing.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't know anything about this. You didn't know

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Speaker 5: I knew nothing about it. I would have never gone

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Speaker 1: That's that's a details.

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Speaker 2: I had known that he had a wife.

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Speaker 1: Be helpful to know. Let me bring Adam, and I

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Speaker 1: forgot to mention kristin the Adam is here. I'm very forgetful. Also,

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Speaker 1: you're married, Adam, and that that's just not important to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I mean, did I forget to mention that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, you forgot to mention that.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm non monogamous and my wife has agreed to

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Speaker 4: everything to an open relationship. She doesn't want to live

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Speaker 4: that life, and so she says that I'm I'm available

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Speaker 4: to do whatever I would like because she would like

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Speaker 4: me to be happy in that respect, but she just

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to know about it.

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Speaker 5: So she doesn't want to know about it, like.

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Speaker 1: Really, and that would be interesting is to see, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, madam, what you're describing is.

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Speaker 2: Not I don't believe that.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that what are you describing. I have

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Speaker 1: heard of existing before.

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Speaker 2: Where I have to But the wife actually like agrees

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Speaker 2: and like she's available to like talk to, you know,

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Speaker 5: It's like they don't believe.

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Speaker 1: A few she says she's wanting to doing it. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, it's yeadam, you got it. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to but you you got to disclose that the

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Speaker 1: other person involved in this needs to have all the

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Speaker 1: information because maybe like in this case, Kristin is not

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Speaker 1: comfortable with this arrangement even if it's above board in

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Speaker 1: your house exactly, and.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's about board. Why can't I talk to her?

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Speaker 5: I have trying to, you know, with this.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a lifestyle, and they're always allowed to talk

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Speaker 2: to the spouse and get it verified. That's all I'm

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Speaker 2: asking for, Like, if this is above board, The only

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Speaker 2: way I could participate in this is if I got

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Speaker 2: to talk to your wife and she said, yay.

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Speaker 5: Verily she can do this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, That's the only way.

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Speaker 4: Adam, I can her about like a verification thing, Like,

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Speaker 4: that's not problem. I'm not trying to find anything. Like

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Speaker 4: she just was very like she just very much said

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that's let's say that Adam's telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: if you could talk to her and verify, you might

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Speaker 1: what's the likelihood you leave your wife? What's the likelihood

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Speaker 1: I make it for me, right, So, adam you if

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Speaker 1: you fall in love with Kristin, well, are you going

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Speaker 4: But I mean also Kristen said that she didn't want kids,

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Speaker 2: It'll make me feel like I'm a cheater. I'm a

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Speaker 1: How do I introduce you to people? Well? Then, but

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Speaker 1: like I just want to try to figure out is okay?

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Speaker 1: So so let's say it's all on the up and up?

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Speaker 1: him do it, then are you okay with those terms?

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Speaker 1: Because he just said he's not leaving his wife. So basically,

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Speaker 2: Going to be if there's no chance of him leaving

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Speaker 2: I'm probably not interested honestly, Like I just I don't

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Speaker 1: I can't live that way on your head, Kiki, what

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Speaker 1: because this is in like he's insane. This is insane.

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Speaker 1: Like you, if your wife gave you the green light

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Speaker 1: to do whatever you want to do, do it. But

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Speaker 1: why bring in people unknowingly, like hey my wife, I

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Speaker 1: have a wife. You don't tell somebody after the fact.

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta lay that out for me. I think, Adam,

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Speaker 1: I really lied, lied, And I can accept that, right, Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do we have an accountable person on that? It's impossible.

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Speaker 1: I do think you gotta you gotta lead with it, Adam,

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Speaker 1: Like you got to tell people, hey, I'm in an

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Speaker 1: that's not going to change because everything changes now for

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Speaker 1: Kristen because maybe she didn't want to be an accessory.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she didn't want to be just you know the

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Speaker 1: side thing. Maybe she wants you to all to herself,

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Speaker 1: and she has every right to make that decision. But

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Speaker 1: if she doesn't know, then look here we are.

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Speaker 5: It's just really disrespectful, is really what it comes down to.

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Speaker 5: It's incredibly disrespectful and it puts the other person in a.

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Speaker 2: Place where they feel dirty.

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Speaker 5: And she's, yeah, have you.

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Speaker 1: Ever had this problem before, Adam? I mean I assume

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Speaker 1: you've been doing this for a little while, Like if

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Speaker 1: you had this issue, where when do you normally lead

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Speaker 1: with it? You normally tell people up friend or no.

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Speaker 1: I mean usually the kind of gauge how how things go. First,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to work out. Kristin, Hey, thank you

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Speaker 1: for your time, and I'm sorry that you know this

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Speaker 1: happened to you and I wish you to mess an Adam.

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Speaker 1: Good luck out there to you as well.

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Speaker 4: Thank you