1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Jason Smith 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Show with Mike Carmen podcast. Be sure to catch us 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: live every weeknight from ten pm to two am Eastern 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: seven to eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: your local station for The Jason Smith Show with Mike 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Harmon at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: every night on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Friday, The Jason Smith Show with 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: my bass friend Mike Harmon. Hobo, have you ever wiped 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: to a piece of dry toilet paper and wondered? Is 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: this as good as it gets? It's not switched to 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: life changing Wet extra large flushable dude wipes because wet 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: or just Clean's better. Available at Amazon and at major 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: retailers nationwide. Dudewipes best clean pants down. Well, yeah, no 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: football this weekend, but it doesn't matter. We are leading 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: up to the bigest NBA game of the last decade, 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Nicks Lakers. The Knicks winn in a blowout tonight. The 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Lakers win in a blowout tonight. Mike Harmon last I 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: checked most expensive tickets since Kobe Bryant's finale. I mean, 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: maybe Nicks Lakers is bigger than the Super Bowl. I 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: mean it might be when it's all said and done. 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: You never know, at least for a moment, in this 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: moment in time in your universe Earth, whatever number you 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: ascribed to it. 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I had at the. 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Trade deadline where both teams are expected to do something 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: even if it's wrong. We've got that going for us, 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: and let's face it, eventually you have to move past 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: the Bill Belichick story and find something else to shout 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: about and chase wind Mills down. 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: So here we are Nicks and Lakers. Why not? Yeah? 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: Any other writers say anything today? 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: No? 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: No writers? Okay, so they all think it's spygate and 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: hate the guy. Got it all right, We're good. Hey. 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: Lebron was sad or not crying the other day. I 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: think on some level he watched a little interview clip 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: that Matt Damon did where he was stoleing praise upon 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: the rock for the smashing Machine, and there's a there's 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: a scene in the hospital where he starts to cry 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: and he raises the hospital blanket over his eyes. That's 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: kind of what Lebron did when he was sitting there 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: waiting on you know, the tribute to finish. Everybody get 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: my good side. And then he's got a documentary crew 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: following him this whole time. It's all fogayzy, but it'll 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: give us good theater good this weekend. 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: This will be the last time James suits up as 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: a Laker to play in Mattison to see what I 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: did there, See what I did there as a Laker 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: to play at MSG. Tickets were like eight hundred bucks 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: a piece. Now they've come down a little bit in 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, but you know this is like, 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: this is the most expensive regular season ticket game. I 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: mean since Kobe's last game, right going all the way 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: back to Kobe. That that's the demand to see this 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: NBA Finals preview. 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: You do know Austin Reeves is coming back right. 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Well, that's why that's why that's why the price is 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: so high, because Reeves is coming in. 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 4: That's why you're gonna wear yesh. 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: If you want to sit courtside, you're getting up into 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: a couple of thousand dollars. If you just want to 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: get in right now, you're under four hundred, Yeah, which 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: is less than going to see Harry to lose. 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 4: That's a good price. 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Hey, And you never know. Every game you see could 69 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: be Karl Anthony Towns his last game as a Nick 70 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: before he's traded for Yannis, So you never know. You 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: never know when that's the last one. Although if he 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: keeps pulling down twenty rebounds a night like he's done 73 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: the last few nights since the honest trade rumors came out, hey, 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna get to stay because I'll tell you what. 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: The last few nights, the Knicks have won three in 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: a row. Karl Anthony Towns has not been the offensive 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: quote force, but the Knicks have been better defensively. He's 78 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: pulling down twenty rebounds a game. The scoring load is 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: going more Josh hart and Unobi in support of Jalen Brunson. 80 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Maybe the Knicks have figured something out and maybe they 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: have look out. 82 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: It always goes back to the old Arnold Schwarzenegger philosophy 83 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: always worked a balance in definition. In this case, work 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: to balance, but you don't need to be a heavyweight 85 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: in terms of the scoring column. Actually do something there, 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: and then when they try to assign some sort of 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 3: valuation for your defensive work in the game. Make sure 88 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 3: there's a positive coefficient there. 89 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, positive coefficients always good. Negative coefficients not good, 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: not good. And that's one to grow on. So while 91 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: we wait for this Titanic game that's going to just 92 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: completely outdo the Super Bowl, because I mean, like, like, 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: why wouldn't it. You want a great and crazy basketball 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: headline that you are good that has become this big 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: headline Friday night, and you think there's no way this 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: can happen. Uh, just wait, just wait. Maybe you know 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: the name Amari Bailey. Maybe you don't, but former UCLA 98 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: standout went to the NBA after his freshman year a 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, was drafted in the second round 100 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: and didn't see a lot of time with the Charlotte Hornets. 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: He played in ten games during his rookie year. But 102 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: he's a second round pick, so you know, he's on 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: a two way deal. He's going to play a little 104 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: bit with the team, a little bit in the G League. 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: That's how it's gonna go. Now, he did spend two 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: years in the G League and he was cut over 107 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: the summer. Okay, so why is Amari Bailey suddenly a 108 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: name on everybody's lips because he has hired an agent 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: and a lawyer to fight for wait for it, wait 110 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: for it, wait for it, NCAA eligibility with hopes of 111 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: joining a college team to play one more season. That's right. 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: He wants to go from the pros back to college. 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: He wants to be a real life Rodney Dangerfield back 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: to school. Example. Hey, I'll tell you one thing, finding it. 115 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: You don't know the first thing about your writing. He 116 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: wants to go back to school to play one more season. 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Now to hear Bailey talk about, he gave a statement 118 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: to ESPN. He said, look, right now, I'd be a 119 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: senior in college. I'm not trying to be twenty seven 120 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: years old playing college athletics. Not what I want to do. 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Other guys want to do that, that's great, But I 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: think I should be able to go back and hey, 123 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: and I want to play one more year. I want 124 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: to show what I can do and go back in 125 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: the draft and get back into the NBA. And already 126 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I have seen blanketly across the board. No way, no way, 127 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: no way, no, you go pro. You forfeit your eligibility. 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: You're not going back. No, no, no, no, no, and 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: I just want to say this. Are you sure this 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: isn't going to happen? Because I can absolutely see this happening. Right. 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: We are eroding the student part of student athlete every day, right, 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: every day? Nil transfer being able to play immediately. The 133 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: last few years has just been this is not student 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: athlete anymore. Right, So, if you're eroding the student part 135 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: of it, why is this a hard line? We have 136 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: shown this age we are in now in the world, 137 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: but specifically in college athletics. In the world, there's no 138 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: rules in anything anymore. You don't like something, you can 139 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: just decide I'm not gonna abide by it, and I'm 140 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna wait and what are you gonna do to me? 141 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: Right? 142 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: And college sports has been the same thing. Wait a minute, 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: we can't do this in college Why can't we We 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: can change the rules in college football and college basketball 145 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: whenever we want to. We don't need to subscribe to 146 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: a hard line. Why should we do that? And if 147 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you are now paying players and players are getting ten 148 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: eleven million dollars, especially in college football, to go play, 149 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: what's going to stop a judge, What's going to stop 150 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: a case to say, hey, uh, why not? 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: Right? 152 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: Because I could see a judge saying a certain amount 153 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: of pro experience isn't an advantage over other people that 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: are playing at that level if it's a small amount, 155 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: and as long as he's within his normal eligibility, yes, 156 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: he can go back to school if he goes pro 157 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: and he plays it doesn't play a certain amount of 158 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: time and he wants to go back to school and 159 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: he's within his freshman to senior year of what his 160 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: normal eligibility would be, Yes, you can go back to college. 161 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Now it would open up a whole can of stuff 162 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: in college sports. But do you really think that? Can 163 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: you really think in an age when we again this 164 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: line is being eroded, Why is this line suddenly we 165 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: can't cross. I can easily see that ruling coming out 166 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: that you within your your regular eligibility of five years 167 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, four or five years, and 168 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: you don't play a certain number of games in the 169 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: pros kind of like you can keep your eligibility if 170 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: you don't play a certain amount of games in college football. Right, 171 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: you can see you can still, Hey, I want to 172 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: keep my one year of eligibility. I've played in four 173 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: games this year. They want to up that for next year. 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: So hey, you get to preserve your eligibility playing less 175 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: than four games in a year, you can red shirt 176 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: and play again. Isn't that? Isn't that? You know, something 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: that might be a little bit unfair, but we allow 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: that to happen. I can see this happening, Mike Carmen. 179 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I know everybody is out. No, no, no, no no, 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: but just look at the world we live in. I 181 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: can see him winning this, and I can see college 182 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: sports changing again after this ruling comes down. Well, it's 183 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: continuing in the theme. Think of the sanctity the yours. 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: What have you done? 185 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: You've eroded the sanctity of this institution of this game. 186 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: It's gone. Okay, Tradition has been blown out the door. 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: It has been torn asunder and filed somewhere else. It's 188 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: shoveled in the backyard and covered up with a nice 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: rose bed. At this point, all the things you remember, 190 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: right USC, Notre Dame, all these rivalry games, all of 191 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: these historical kickoff classics, all of that, it's gone. Bowl 192 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: system for basketball. 193 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: We keep expanding the tournament, we keep creating new and 194 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: exciting ways to try to market the game, changing up 195 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: the television partners changing up all of those things. Conferences 196 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: are now twenty large, like it doesn't matter anymore. And 197 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: the student athlete thing, let me tell you, with the 198 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: exception of a select few schools, and then we start 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: looking at D two, d T D three and the 200 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: service academies, there's a lot of shoulder shrugging. I mean, 201 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: remember the car Beck question and answer that he had 202 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: ahead of the National title game. Hey, how'd you do 203 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: in your classes this week? 204 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: Lady? I've been graduating for two years. What are you 205 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: doing now? 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: I don't play video games, hanging out with my girlfriend. 207 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it's done. And when you talk about the 208 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: billions of dollars that are transacted and raised by each 209 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: of these institutions, I'm not saying you have to like it. 210 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you don't stand on the mountaintop 211 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: with a little singular tier dripping down your cheek. 212 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: It happens. But the reality is the door has been open. 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Nausey did this right. While he didn't play ten games 214 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: in the NBA like Bailey did in the twenty three 215 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: to twenty four season, he still had his rights own 216 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: by your Nicks in the process, and all of this 217 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: to say that we've already eroded this, that lion has 218 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: been erased. I mean, you keep moving the line to where. 219 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: You can't even see it anymore. Or so the derivation 220 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: of that from the friends line from Chandler Bing from 221 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: so many years ago. But yeah, it's it can fight it. 222 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: But he's gonna go into the court and they're gonna say, hey, 223 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: will he help the school make more money? Yeah, it 224 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: doesn't help his life. Yes, what are we fighting about? 225 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Justin Frossburg has big news coming in right here. This 226 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: is news only from Fox Sports Radio involving this story. 227 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Justin Frostburg. We've just been doing this for about five minutes. 228 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 4: What do you have for us, man? Yeah, this just 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,359 Speaker 4: in Carmelo Anthony back to Syracuse. 230 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: All right, Oh, we're making the tournament, man, we are 231 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: making the tournament. Now another piece for me. You had 232 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: another guy going back to. 233 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: Call Lebron to duke. 234 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron is finally after all these years hit rewind. 235 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Oh telling you, man, I'd love to see it. Oh, 236 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Man Mellow going back playing with his kid. Back to 237 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Sir Mello's got three years, he's got three years of experience. Yeah, 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's a little bit old. I mean, you know, 239 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe that would be a little bit of a sticky wicket. 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: But he's got three years left. Why not why not 241 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: do it that? Let him go? Let him go. 242 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: But I just left Jason, Like we talk about all 243 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: of these different institutions. We talked about the Pro Football 244 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame voting that now they're shuffling. They just 245 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: changed their by laws and processes and they'll probably do 246 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: it again as a backlash to the one year rule 247 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: now for coaches and what it does and the way 248 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: these candidates were looked at. Right, three players, a coach, 249 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: and a contributor. All of these things are are subject 250 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: to change. You know, whichever the way the wind blows fiercest, 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: you lick your fingers, stick it up and say yeah 252 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: that way, and then you bounce back the other way. 253 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 254 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 255 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 256 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: Worst super Bowl Ever, Worst super super Bowl Ever? You 257 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: were so just for you? Is for you? 258 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: Not for America ever? Is that I'm gonna call you xenophobic? 259 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: This is the worst blaming your hatred of Bad Bunny. 260 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: How about that Jason Smith hates Bad Bunny worst super 261 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: Bowl ever, calls it worst super Bowl ever. 262 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh I can just I could you attribute 263 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: that to you? But I don't think that doesn't matter. 264 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: I'll just contribute it to you. You know I I 265 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, landa last week and I said to myself, Okay, 266 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good. I picked the Rams and the 267 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Broncos preseason for the super Bowl, feeling great. 268 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: Jason apologized that Sam Darling, now they hang on hang On, Frostburg, America. 269 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: I'm tired of hanging on hang on. 270 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I was feeling really good about those, feeling good about 271 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: that pick. I was feeling great, and then this weekend happened. Yeah, 272 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I got my picks right. And then only because you 273 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: put it out there to manifest against me. I know 274 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: that's why you did it. 275 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: Well, I actually went against my financial best interest because 276 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: I actually had live bets on both of the other 277 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 3: teams with the conference. 278 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you only did that to manifests. Man. Congratulations 279 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: because you made it happen. 280 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: Because this super Bowl ever, that means I am the 281 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: third of the Mighty Mics. This weekend Michael McDonald because 282 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: if we don't have Doobie Brothers all night long, we've failed. 283 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: We've got Mike Rabel and me. All right, I'll put that. 284 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. Well I had a fourth today. 285 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: It's the Four Horsemen because it's the fortieth anniversary at 286 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Ditka being carried off. 287 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Okay, alright, forty six dead. Okay, So then Ditka over Harmon, 288 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: who mentioned Ditka? So Harmon comes in fourth with Ditka third. 289 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: But that's what it was. 290 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: So so get bumped off the metal stand from my 291 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: own reference. 292 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Well, we kind of have to. I mean, is the 293 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: greater of all I mean in this in the skit, 294 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Ditka doesn't lose to anybody. No, he can't. He doesn't 295 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: lose to any the entire world. The worst super Bowl 296 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean, first of all, when 297 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: I thought about, you know, I'm thinking it's it's still 298 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of abstracted. But are they both really gonna win? 299 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Are they are? They're both the Patriots, and I'm gonna 300 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: have to watch as a Jet fan the worst super 301 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Bowl that you could ever have in the history of 302 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I thought I thought Giants Patriots was bad. 303 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: A few years ago. I was at that I was 304 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: on the sideline for that game, and I had to watch. 305 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: I thought that was bad Jets. First, Jets would be theirs. 306 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Do you think anybody would even watch that? Every day 307 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: they battle? 308 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: They would, they would cancel that Super Bowl. 309 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: Man a long line to watch that, apologize. 310 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Civil Wars, super Bowl Jets not only to have to 311 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: watch the Patriots after hey, two decades of a run 312 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: unlike we have seen in NFL history, right, and they went, Okay, 313 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: now they're just like everybody else. They start losing. They 314 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: fired their coach, they get a new coach. Oh no, no, 315 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: one year the guy shows up four and thirteen. Team, Hey, 316 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: we're flipping that record around. And now we're in the 317 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: bleep and Super Bowl. And you know what, my roster 318 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: wasn't great. His roster wasn't great, wasn't unbelievable. What did 319 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: he do? He came in, He did the right things, 320 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: He banged out dense, he inserted his culture. Well, I 321 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: watched my head coach come in and say, oh, we 322 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: have to tear this down to the studs. No, you 323 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: don't have to. You don't have to, clearly, and he 324 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: was the coacher. Oh yeah, all the first year coaches 325 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: came in and said, yeah, no, we don't need to 326 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: get rid of everybody and tear this down to the studs. 327 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: We can put our own culture in there. Ben Johnson 328 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: put his own culture in. Liam Cohen put his own 329 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: culture in. Look what happened everything, Hey, we still have 330 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: the same guys. Don't got to get rid of everybody. 331 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Don't gotta tear it all down. No, no, no, my guy 332 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: Aaron let who was the culture I know? And I 333 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: had to watch all of a sudden Mike Rabel now 334 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: and he's got a power in New England. Okay, well, 335 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: this is worse than the first time around where we 336 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: lost Belichick he didn't want to be the coach, but 337 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: then he went. But then he had the plays and 338 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: they were deflating footballs and all this stuff, and okay, no, 339 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: this is worse. 340 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: This is worse. 341 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: And then on the other side, I actually started thinking, 342 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: would it be worse of the Giants were in it? 343 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Like Withip you right now it's worse because now I thought, Okay, 344 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: who am I going to root for the Super Bowl 345 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: right because I have I have the team that that 346 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: you know, arch rival that I really not even a 347 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: rivalry because we win one side of every forty five 348 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: games against them, and then I have then I have 349 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: the team where hey, it's our quarterback that we booted 350 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: out that couldn't get it right for us now, and 351 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I can't I can't blame the Jets. Well, I guess 352 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: I can blame the Jets, but it's not like they 353 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: didn't give him the opportunity. It's not like he was great. 354 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: We should actually be more upset with the Vikings what 355 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: they did, because they kicked him out when he was good. 356 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: We kicked out Sam Donald when he stunk. So there's that. 357 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 5: But now just because of you guys, well pro sure, 358 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 5: I'm sure he wore your stink. 359 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. Yeah, clearly we weren't the right system. 360 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: A long time to wash off, long time. He had 361 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: took him. 362 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: Four different places he had to go to, so we had. 363 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: So now I'm like, okay, so here says we had 364 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: to kick him out, all right, and and I'm okay, Sam, 365 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, right, Obviously, I'm happy for Sam 366 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: donalks he was. He was a good dude when he 367 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: was with the Jets, and all said had nothing but 368 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: good things to say, didn't rip them on the way 369 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: out the door, very classy all the way through. I'm 370 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: happy for the guy, and I think, okay, well, if 371 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: I got to pull for somebody in the Super Bowl, 372 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: I'd probably pull for the Seahawks. But then I start thinking, well, 373 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: am I gonna feel if I gotta sit there and 374 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: watch Jim Nantz or whoever you know hand the Super 375 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP Trophy over to Sam Darnold, who thanks everybody. 376 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: They they're going to talk about his journey to where 377 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: he is now, and I'm sure they'll mention the Jets, like, 378 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: how am I going to feel seeing the guy that 379 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: we drafted third overall and jump to a bunch of 380 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: different days and finally get it right and not just 381 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: get it right and have a good career, but win 382 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Then I realized that might depress me 383 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: even more than watching Vrabel and Drake may Like, like 384 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I thought, for sure, Okay, I'm 385 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: gonna obviously lean the Seahawks because the Patriots, I'm you know, 386 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: I've been They've been more rivals, you know, my whole life. 387 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: I'm going all the way back to when I started 388 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: watching football. But the Seahawks Okay, yeah, that's great. But 389 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: then I realized what that what that optic is going 390 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: to look like with Darnald holding up the the super 391 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: Bowl Trophy, the Lombardy in one hand and the MVP 392 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: on the other hand, and here here at all this 393 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: stuff and watching the confetti come down and just and 394 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: I thought that that might depress me even more. Yeah, 395 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: I think super Bowl's on NBC, so it would be Collinsworth. 396 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: And the running joke is that he'd be making cracks 397 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: about Sam compared to Patrick Mahomes. 398 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: Maybe because he loves him. Maybe sure, I remember what 399 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: he called Josh Allen. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes, I don't play. 400 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: But you look at the opportunity here for you as 401 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 3: a sports fan and the misery that really rolls up 402 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: here for you. And I felt for you to a degree. 403 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: But it's the convergence of all all bad things. And 404 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: you could say, hey, Sam, donold it took him four 405 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: more teams before it. 406 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: Really got right. 407 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: Now, if you wanted to talk about were Super bowls 408 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: Denver would have won that game, because then we might 409 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: have had a repeat of a decade ago when Seattle 410 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: won forty three to eight. 411 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that very well would. 412 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: Have happened, and if Sean Payton had kicked the field goal, 413 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: we might have had And here we go and then 414 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: you know, the game is what it is. Second half 415 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: doesn't look anything like the first. Suddenly we're on haff 416 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: But for you, I I. 417 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Understand the vexation and the fear that New England is 418 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: getting ready to put a stranglehold on the division for 419 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: another decade. Now, Drake May imperfect. 420 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: And this playing this game as we're watching it that 421 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: the most laughable thing ever was the how Romo assessed 422 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: Drake May carrying the ball for that first down of 423 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: how gutsy risky whatever, it's like, no, no, no, risky would have 424 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: been to go back to pass, risky would have been 425 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: anything other than tucking the ball and running. 426 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: And he said he he audible. I was thinking about 427 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: telling you, but didn't want to tell anybody. I was 428 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: just gonna keep the fake, pretends to fake. But yeah, 429 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: he didn't tell anybody. That's what the linemen said after 430 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: the game. But the point being like that was the 431 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: safest play of it all. Don't put the ball in 432 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: the air. But yeah, so the Sam Darnald thing is 433 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: is tough. There's there's no quest hard man, I thought 434 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: it would be able to be. Yeah, hey go Sam, 435 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: go Sam. No, Now I'm like, no, you Jets, like 436 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: we told you, you tried to sell this all year. 437 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: You tried to sell it all last year, because you 438 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: tried to sell it all last year when he was 439 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: in Minnesota in a completely different conference, in a different world, 440 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: in a different land from your Jets. And then he 441 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: bounces and he replaces Geno Smith, and here he is. 442 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Because to think, just I don't know that I've ever 443 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: been as close to the Super Bowl as seeing a 444 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: guy that we draft to be our franchise and you 445 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: should own it like I do Hall of Famers and 446 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: hoist the Super Bowl Trophy with somebody else. But Andrew 447 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Jones is a white Sox Hall of Famer. I have 448 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: Sam Donald can be that Jets legend for you. I 449 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I haven't. Uh no, I haven't gotten to 450 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: that point where where I can say that I could 451 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: see somebody hoist in Lombardi Trophy. That would really just 452 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: like punch me in the gut, because it's not like 453 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: so many other people, because the Jets don't draft, well, 454 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: it's not like I have to see a bunch of 455 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: people who are great players with the Jets go someplace else. Well, 456 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: like I had to watch Revs go win sure with 457 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots, but okay, it was still Brady's team, right, 458 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, Revs won, but that's fine. He was 459 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: near the end and Brady won. Okay, yeah, we paid 460 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: the money that we shouldn't have been. That was the 461 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: toughest one. But really that was an ancillary part, Like 462 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: that was an answer, like, Okay, yeah, Revus he left 463 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: and he had gone out. Yeah, that's fine. But to 464 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: see it, to see a quarterback that everybody's gonna write 465 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: about and talk about and become legendary, Like I can 466 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: forget for a while that Revis won the super Bowl 467 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. I'm never gonna forget Sam Darnold wins 468 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with the Bleep and Seahawks. Man, that's 469 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean. And so now I don't Now now I'm 470 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: back to thinking if the Patriots win, would it really 471 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: be that bad? Well, I mean that's where I am, Like, Okay, 472 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I've seen them win a lot before, so it wouldn't 473 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: be something new. I guess it's a new coach and 474 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: a new quarterback. And I knew everything, and that's just 475 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna upset me because they came in the same time 476 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: as Aaron Glenn. 477 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 478 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: But so now I'm kind of back to maybe the 479 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Patriots wouldn't be so bad. 480 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: I mean they do have a guy on the roster 481 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: named Booty. Yes, I mean that's good. 482 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah. I can't go with fun stuff. 483 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: It just has to be how you gotta have fun 484 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: otherwise that's no Mentally, how am I going to How 485 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: am I gonna how am I gonna get think about it? 486 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: Was? 487 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: It would be even worse if we were up in 488 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: Santa Clara for any portion of that week and you 489 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: just had posters the size of stadium sides of Sam 490 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 3: Donald staring you in the face. That's Sam Donald. Jersey 491 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: I have on order will be worn all day week. 492 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: This might be the saddest segment you've ever done, Dude. 493 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: It is sad man. 494 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 4: Throwing out there. 495 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 5: Sad I'm throwing out there is one person. Absolutely nobody 496 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: feels bad for you at all. 497 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: I have to watch this. I feel how about a 498 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: frost guy? I earned you earned this? Super? How did 499 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: I earn this? A lifetime of my team losing? 500 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: I can't even a lifetime of bashing super Bowl bound 501 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: quarterback Sam Donald. 502 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: Well, I mean to be fair, I mean, for twelve 503 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: years you've foisted your Jets fandom upon the world. And 504 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: now the greatest symbol of this period, of this period, 505 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: right is going to the Super Bowl. 506 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: You will win another man's uniform in another jersey. 507 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: You know, not to just just for a second, though, 508 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: just just for a second to understand, Yeah, because it's 509 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: the Jets. It's low hanging fruit, and I understand you, dude, 510 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: The Vikings need to get ripped more than people need 511 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: to be fired. Oh no, we've already got that. You 512 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about who at least the Jets got 513 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: rid of Donald when he's stunk. The Viking said no 514 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: thanks after he was a pro bowler with four thousand 515 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: yards and thirty five touchdowns, because we're gonna say, you 516 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: had two bad games at the end of the year, 517 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: so we're moving on from a quarterback like that's fireable 518 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: for everybody. 519 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: But that's been the fun thing, right. A lot of 520 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: talk about the special teams coordinator doing his Leo DiCaprio 521 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: staring at the TV like he's in Once upon a 522 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: Time in Hollywood. Ah after the fumble. Uh, you also 523 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: had everybody in the Vikings buildings staring at each other, going, 524 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: we got JJ, we coaching JJU with the house coming 525 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: in to battle with JJ. 526 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Just understand, you know, while the Jets are gonna be 527 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: the punch obviously when we do, come on, I'm not 528 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, be realistic. 529 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: But at least then they'd given him three years and 530 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: there were only glimpses of hope, and then they moved 531 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: on with the Vikings, you had proof of concept. 532 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I meant. Someone should have said, you know, 533 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, we we probably should have run the ball 534 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: a little more in those games. Can we can we 535 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: we can trade the other guy, right, I mean we'd 536 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: get a first round pick. I mean, nobody cares if 537 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: you trade a first round pick. Is only find a quarterback. Right, 538 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: We're good, Right, We're good. No no, no, that's fireable stuff. No, 539 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: it's true. But for the purpose of this conversation, Jet Show, 540 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: worst Super Bowl, Patriots and the Seahawks. 541 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 542 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 543 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 544 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is not a first ballad Hall of Famer, 545 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: a story that broke earlier this afternoon and has since 546 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: spread like wildfire. Many people are very upset, Jimmy Johnson 547 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: tweeting out how mad he is. People want blood, they 548 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: want they want they want all kinds of stuff. They 549 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: want to know who didn't vote, who didn't vote him? 550 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Of the forty voters, twenty nine votes to get Belichick 551 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. A guy with more Super 552 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Bowls than everybody's done more, did not get in the 553 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. And now it's like it's 554 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: the biggest miscarriage of justice that we have seen in 555 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: sports in quite some time. Because Number One, the first 556 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say is I love the fact that 557 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: people are just now coming around to the fact that, 558 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: oh wait, so writers, when they vote for a Hall 559 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: of Fame and MVP and Rookie of the Year, they 560 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: vote with their own agenda, their own personal feelings. Oh like, 561 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough evidence of that over the course 562 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: of the past twenty five years. They either voter they don't, guys, 563 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: keeping Ichiro from being unanimous, keeping Jeter from being unanimous. No, 564 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: by the way, I had pretty good authority. Rob Parker 565 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't vote for Jeter. Rob Parker didn't vote for Ero. 566 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: He also didn't vote for Belichick. So there's that they 567 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: vote for anybody this year. He said he sent back 568 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: a Blake ballad he and ten others. I've just got's 569 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: eleven volks that just said, ah, I didn't even see 570 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: it in the mail. I mean, come on, he did 571 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: not do that. But it's like people are just realizing, now, oh, hey, 572 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: voters vote with that kind of of whatever process. Because 573 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: we've heard a lot since the vote came out that 574 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: there was a contingent that didn't like the cheating, Spygate, 575 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: everything else. And I'm surprised that everybody is so surprised 576 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: about it because quite honestly, when you have spygate scandal, 577 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: and you have the deflate gate scandal and you treat 578 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: reporters like crap for twenty years, yeah, sometimes you reap 579 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: what you sew. Now we can debate whether or not 580 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's a first ballot Hall of Famer or not. 581 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: Look as Bill Belichick hall of Famer, absolutely right as 582 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: a Jet fan, absolutely, But I'm not surprised this is 583 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: how the vote went because just as you see for 584 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: guys like Barry Bonds and when stuff happens that people 585 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: aren't cool with. This is how they vote. Whether it's 586 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: a one year ban, I'll vote for him next year, 587 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: or I'm never gonna vote for the guy. This is 588 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: how it goes. This is how writers vote, This is 589 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: how people vote. And twenty years of him at press 590 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: conferences acting like reporters aren't even worth his time. And 591 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: again the cheating stuff that we had. However, however you 592 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: want to talk about that on a sliding scale of 593 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: how big a deal it was versus how small a 594 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: deal it was. Okay, all that stuff is out there, 595 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: but I can't believe people are actually surprised that this 596 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: is what happened for Belichick, because this is kinda the 597 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: person he's been and what he's sown for the last 598 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: twenty something. 599 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: I would say, this the the last part of it 600 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: and get over yourselves, you crying infants. Uh the so 601 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: the hey, he wasn't nice to you, he didn't give 602 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: you a lollipop when you asked him a bad question. Okay, fine, 603 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: the the flate gate one of the dumbest things we've 604 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: ever done. Again, sliding scale decide Spygate. There's still a 605 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: lot we right will never know because they the flate 606 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: gate was blown out of proportion. But you still we 607 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: still don't even have all the answers to what that was. 608 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: But but let's go, let's go to the endgame with 609 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: all of it. He didn't take away any Super Bowl titles. No, 610 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: you're still recognized as the greatest by most, if not 611 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: everybody associated with the game. Bill Pollian recommended that the 612 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: Bears hire Matt Eberflus, So anything he says in that 613 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: committee room should be thrown out immediately. But all of 614 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: that to say, for Bill Belichick, you can hate him, 615 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: and you have, and you could take all of that 616 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: in to say, you know what, We're gonna punish him 617 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: and not let him into the Hall of Fame on 618 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: the first ballot is just look, petty knows no tax bracket. 619 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite quotes I've ever thrown out 620 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: on the airwaves. Here, so that comes in here. Do 621 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: you have a list of your favorite call I do 622 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: I do? 623 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: I keep him up? Is it a sliding scale like 624 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: you move it up? No? No, no, no, no, that. 625 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: One's first with a bullet, all right, and things mocking 626 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: the Jets. Of course rank highly as well, but it comes. 627 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Down to this. It's like the you're ranking him, you 628 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: got three out of five, Kenny Anderson's gonna end up 629 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: getting into the Hall of Fame probably, and Bill Belichick 630 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: gets left out. 631 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: Kenny didn't. 632 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: This makes sense. Kenny also didn't win, right, But that's 633 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: the thing is that there's two different conversations going on. 634 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: There is Belichick not getting in and you believing that 635 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: he should have gotten in, and then there's why he 636 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: didn't get in. And I understand why he didn't get 637 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: in because you know, I pay attention to sports over 638 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: the past twenty summer. Yeah, we all do pay attentions 639 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: to Will just doing. People like Barry Bonds aren't getting 640 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: in the Hall. 641 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: But that's because that's because folks decided they didn't like him. 642 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: But other guys that were nice to them might have 643 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: had a bottle of stuff or something sticking out of 644 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: their back, they still let them walk in. 645 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: Time it again, Okay, it's insane, and I'm not disagreeing 646 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: with that. What I'm saying is I can't believe how 647 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: many people were surprised that this is what this is 648 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: how it went for Bill Belichick, and Spygate was a 649 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: really big deal, right, and he never got out from 650 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: under the the cloud of that. And then deflate Gate 651 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: comes and it's more of, really, you got caught with spygate, 652 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: and now there's the flate gate. Same team, same quarterback, 653 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: same everything. Now the actual impact of of you know, 654 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: deflating the footballs and what it meant for a game 655 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: are two different things. But here's an organization that won 656 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: super Bowls and was caught cheating. And you know, bygate 657 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: helped the Patriots because Belichick's not gonna keep doing that 658 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: if he wasn't getting advantage from it. So you have 659 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: and you have all the teams to say, yeah, this 660 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: guy was here at our practice. The Rams were like 661 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: they were at our practice for the walkthrough. You know, 662 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: they caught a big play in the Super Bowl in 663 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and one. The Rams had only practiced once. 664 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 1: How did you know that was coming unless you were 665 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: at our walkthrough when we practiced for the first time. 666 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: So he never got outside of that. And yeah, the 667 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: personal stuff, again, you can debate if it's if you 668 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: agree with it or not, but this is how the 669 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: world works. I know how the world works. And I 670 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: know that people that cover him for a long time 671 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: enough times where he doesn't treat them well, and they're 672 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: gonna say, Okay, okay, that's fine. I'm a Hall of 673 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: Fame voter. Bill, good luck trying to get in when 674 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: you're there the first time. Now, eventually I vote for you, 675 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: but good luck getting in. Look look at how Belichick 676 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: was with the reports of how we treated everybody when 677 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: he was at North Carolina, you know, with with with 678 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: scouts that couldn't come in and see the and see 679 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: the players play with the Patriots, and how he was 680 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: keeping everybody at arms light. You heard all the same 681 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: stories with North Carolina. It's just he wasn't as protected 682 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: as he was with the Patriots because he wasn't winning 683 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: super Bowls. So yeah, all of those things, when you 684 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: throw them all in a mix, I'm not surprised that 685 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: that eleven people just said, yeah, you know what, no, 686 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: not this year. Now. I don't think for a second 687 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: they thought the blowback would be what it is, because generally, 688 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: when a front office person, executive owner, coach doesn't get 689 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: in front, Okay, well it's a coach, right, Because I'll 690 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: always remember John Clayton telling me, I said, you know, 691 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: the one thing you have to know. One of the 692 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: big seekers I can tell the story is that he 693 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: goes is that the players always get in first, and 694 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: we always go in with that. Now, this is John 695 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Clayton telling me this fifteen years ago. The players get 696 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: in first. That's always the most. The players get in first. Now, 697 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: obviously he's up against different people, but the player, you know, 698 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: so you know that, Hey, they care about the players first. 699 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: When it comes to coaches executives, do they care as much? 700 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Do they take as much thought in their vote? Is 701 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: it easier for them to say, well, I don't want 702 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: to screw this player, but Belichick because of the cheating, 703 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: because of how he acted, Yeah, okay, I cannot vote 704 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: for him. I don't. Again, I don't think they thought 705 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: it was gonna be this big a deal and there's 706 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: gonna be some sort of reckoning in the next week 707 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: because the call to hey, you make your votes public 708 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: and you and you talk about why you voted this 709 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: way for Belichick, like that's a really big thing to overcome. 710 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: So I think they didn't. They didn't probably feel this 711 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: was gonna be the reaction to it, and it is. 712 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: But I mean again, when this came out today, I 713 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna be blow up like this 714 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: because I wasn't surprised because this is this is how 715 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: Belichick goes. 716 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 717 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 3: Now you're starting to see more reports of the fact 718 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: that Bill Pollian, year after year seems to have somebody 719 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: he doesn't want in. 720 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't say but Poleon said no, that's 721 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: not true. I voted for him. Like that story when 722 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: when Belichick didn't get in, the story broke that, hey, 723 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: Poleon potentially was going to make him sit out a 724 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: year because of Spygate. Right, I'm gonna gonna make you 725 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 1: sit for a year, then I'll vote you in. When 726 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: Poleon was contacted, he said, no, not true. I voted 727 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: for him. Now that's a pretty easy thing to disprove. 728 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Poleon as his word that he's telling truth, 729 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: because if he didn't vote for him, that's something that 730 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: would get out. So if he said no, no, not true, 731 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: I voted for him, Well, so then it's other people 732 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: that are voting for different reasons. And clearly there's stuff 733 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: out there, and I don't know if I mean it's 734 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: probably not enough to say probably not enough votes where 735 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: you can say that, well, I wanted Kraft to get in, 736 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: so I voted Kraft number one, Belichick lower on my 737 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: list because everybody's going to vote for Belichick. Like, Kraft's 738 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: been on the ballot for a while now. So it's 739 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: not suddenly where you think that, oh, people assumed he 740 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: was getting in, so I didn't give him the votes. No, 741 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: this is absolutely personal, it's absolutely political. It's all of 742 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: these things. And again there's two there's two separate things. 743 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: There's do you believe he got he got the shaft? 744 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: And are you surprised that he did? That's are two 745 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: different things. And the surprise part of it, I'm surprised 746 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: at everybody's surprised. 747 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it comes down to that you 748 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: were able to convince that many people. Whoever did the convincing. Hey, 749 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 3: you know what, let's vote for either Roger Craig or 750 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson. I'm sorry they have to catch strays here, 751 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: but it's the voting processes what it is, right, L C. 752 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: Greenwood and Craft are the other the other guys in 753 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: this category. But for for Belichick, it comes down to 754 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: the all right, let's let make a guy wait, Like 755 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: I've never understood that, you know, out of spite, I'm 756 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: not gonna vote for a guy. Yeah, and Poleon could 757 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 3: be lying through his teeth. People do it all. 758 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: The time, but that in Major League Baseball, we said, 759 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: they make people wait. I'm gonna make you wait major 760 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: League Baseball. 761 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: But same thing, you know, right, But where one of 762 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: the great cases coming off last week is how did 763 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: Kenny Lofton only show up on a ballot one year? 764 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got three percent of the vote and was 765 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: never seen or heard playing. I don't know if you 766 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: know that he's still playing. Kenny Lofton is still he's 767 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: still out. Yeah, yeah, he's on the Diamondbacks. He's the 768 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: fifth outfield. 769 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: But he get the point, like, there are guys where 770 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 3: it's like, how did they fall off? 771 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: How did nobody vote for this guy? 772 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: In this case, yes, there's some level of pettiness that 773 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: comes in, but the fact that you got that many 774 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 3: voters to where it mixes his candidas this year, it's 775 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: just just curious to me because he cheated. 776 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: Look, it's a thing for people to get over and 777 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm honestly, honestly, you want to say what I was 778 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: surprised about I'm surprised more people didn't keep him off 779 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: their ballots because of it. I thought more people would 780 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: have the solidarity in the first year of saying no, 781 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: what he's done, the he wasn't punished enough in Spygate, 782 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote him in the first year, 783 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: and like people just discovering that that stuff happens when 784 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: it's been happening in baseball and other sports for years, 785 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: about people not kidding elected to the Hall of Hey. 786 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: The Cardinals do everything the right way. Carlos Beltrad just 787 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: walked into the Hall of Fame. 788 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I really. 789 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you go down major League Baseball, there's 790 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 3: a ton of guys that you just laugh and go, okay. 791 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: They just kind of strolled in. Were they really nice 792 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 3: and showed up at somebody's charity event. So they got 793 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: through with the Belichick thing. For me, it's the all right, 794 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: make your statement, say what you need to say, but 795 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 3: recognize in the end, he's still celebrated for the winds 796 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: that have piled up for the Super Bowls that are there. 797 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: It's the petty agenda that just makes me chuckle. But 798 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 3: it's a Hall of Fame. It's human nature to be like, well, 799 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: I couldn't get him on the field, Hi Bill Pollyon, 800 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get him in the ballot box.