1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Chuck here uh in the podcast time. It's 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: August twelve, because we are in the way back machine 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: taking you back for our Saturday Selects episode all about 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: abandoned minds. And to tell you the truth, you guys, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: I picked this one because I didn't remember doing it, 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: which means I have to listen to it again to 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: make sure it's good. And uh, I'm gonna learn it 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: all over again along with you. So check out this 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: episode from August twelve, what Happens to Abandoned Minds. Welcome 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: W Chuck Bryant. Damn, that makes it sounds I just 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: had some of my notes mixed up, like criminal records 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: was stuffed in the middle of this one, Like, wouldn't 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: that be funny if I was talking about abandoned minds? 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: And then just like a robot was like, and if 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: you have a d U I, you can call your 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: local police shop and get that expunged. Yeah, I think 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: that's bad advice. Well, now I'm just saying, do you 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: not ever call the police unless it's an emergency. You're right, Chuck, Yes, Um, 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Three today? Huh yeah, before 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: holiday even In fact, the office is closed right now 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: and we're still working. I know. It's like crickets outside. 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: And someone threw a spear at me when I stuck 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: my head out to go to the bathroom. Good that 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: was his assignment. Yeah, so Chuck, yes, if I may 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: take it down, not your two, Okay. Have you ever 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: heard of a guy named Taylor Crane? A kid? Taylor 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: as a kid who was sixteen years old when he died. 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: He was on a tour of Mexico UM with his 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: parents in New Mexico or mex Mexico, Mexico Old Mexico UM. 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: And he was on a tour I didn't realize he's existed, UM, 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: but a of abandoned haciendas and minds. So it's basically 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: like an urban exploration tour of old Mexico UM. And 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: they were at an old mind site the tour group 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: was and Taylor was apparently playing tag and um jumped 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: up on a low wall and apparently on the other 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: side of that was a thousand foot mind shaft which 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: fell into a thout ten feet across jess wide open 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: a thousand feet down. They had a lot of trouble 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: getting to them to recover him because there's so much 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: lead and arsenic at the bottom that it was really 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: difficult to breathe to get down there to get them. 44 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: So you think, like, wow, it's really crazy that Mexico 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: has these open minds. Mind blowing as it is, Mexico 46 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: is not the only place. As a matter of fact, 47 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: here in the States we have something on the scale 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: of five hundred thousand abandoned minds. That's the high end, 49 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: but the low end even is still I think like 50 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand abandoned minds. Abandoned minds probably two of 51 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: the most dangerous words you can put together, and they're 52 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: all over the place. The US is lousy with them. Yeah, 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: and about thirty people die in the United States every 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: year from accidents involving abandoned minds. And I did a 55 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: little looking Apparently they include uh uh quarries and most 56 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: of these are drownings. Um because the quarry either has 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: water or an abandoned mind shaft. You know, they'll pump 58 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: out water to work in it, and then when they're done, 59 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: it fills back up with water. So uh, some say 60 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: crazy scuba divers, we'll try and scuba dive these things. 61 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: My dad was actually certified in an old marble quarry 62 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: in Toledo, and the to be certified you had to 63 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: go down to a school bus at the bottom of 64 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: this quarry. Um, you had to dive down to go 65 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: into the school bus and grab something from it. It 66 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: was like right inside, and then bring it back up 67 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: and they'd be like, Okay, you're certifying. Your dad did that. Yeah, 68 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome. I'm trying to picture that. I can't 69 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: imagine anything more creepy than having to go into a 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: school bus at the bottom of a filled quarry. No, 71 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to picture your dad like I'll, you know, 72 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: scuba diving and it's been like a buzz cut and 73 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: more like a big watch and everything. Yeah, he was. 74 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: I guess anytime you're older and you meet someone father 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: when they're a little older, it's hard to imagine them 76 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: as young because I didn't know him back then. But 77 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I picture him on the couch. Oh no, huh, No, 78 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: he's a He carried a spear gun everywhere he went 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: with him, did he really? That's awesome. Alright, so, um, sadly, 80 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: like I said, about thirty people die each year, many 81 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: of them are drownings. I think number two on the 82 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: list as a TV accidents, which doesn't surprise me, is 83 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: tool along in the a TV on some you know, 84 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: random thinking. You're in the middle of nowhere place and 85 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the bottom falls out. Literally. Um. Yeah, 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: those were the top two far and away that I 87 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: came across too. But since two thousande apparently two seven 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: people have died in the United States because of accidents 89 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: involving abandoned minds. I saw one in two thousand and eight. 90 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: These two guys were uh, trying to get a former 91 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: gold mine going again because they thought there was still 92 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: gold down there, and they were pumping out water with 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a some sort of machine with a generator, and they 94 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah, that's that's another one. 95 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I think it's way down on the list. It's like 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: a distant third. But but I think it's it's um 97 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: being overcome unable to breathe, asphyxiation, that's the word I'm 98 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: looking for. By bringing in your own thing or just 99 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: by the toxic chemicals down there toxic chemicals or um, 100 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide or oxygen depletion in general from people either 101 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: try at old ones started up or yea more likely 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: adventuring abandoned mind. Let's go ahead and give a tip 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: to people because we like to encourage the urban explorers, 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: which you know, we've done a podcast on that. But man, 105 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: you don't need to be hanging around abandoned minds. Now. 106 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: They're very, very dangerous. Yes, I mean, that's just so 107 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: mind bogglingly dangerous to resist the urge, And like, I 108 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: have that urge too because I love the urban exploration. 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: If I saw a hole in the ground, I would 110 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: want to go check it out. But it's not a 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: good place to be, not a good thing to do. 112 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: So what's crazy is we said, like up to five 113 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: hundred thousand abandoned minds and these are just the minds, 114 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: not mine features. So say every mind has several mind features, 115 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: Say and add it, which is a vertical shaft or 116 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a horizontal shaft. Um, And you've got a 117 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: vertical shaft like the one that um, poor Taylor Crane 118 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: fell into. Um, you have all these different mind features 119 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: on up to five hundred thousand minds. Crazy thing is 120 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: is as of February two thousand eleven, the Bureau of 121 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: Land Management, which is tasked with finding these abandoned minds, 122 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: has only found about thirty one thousand of them. That 123 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: means that there's possibly four hundred and sixty nine thousand 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: abandoned minds in the United States that no one has 125 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: on any map. True, but like on on the good side, 126 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to find them. Now. In two thousand and eight, 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: they only had eighteen thousand of them. So in that 128 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: span of three years they found another, uh, thirteen thousand. 129 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: I had twelve thousand and two thousand and eight. Oh really, 130 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: well even better than yeah, um, and I think of 131 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: those have been remediated, have pending reclamation, or they say 132 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: aren't a danger and they say so, Um, that's just 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: the physical dangers. Yeah, there's two kinds. There's physical dangers 134 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: and environmental dangers. And I think and I guess it's 135 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: of the ones they found they said have physical hazards 136 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: and five have environmental hazards. There. Yeah, okay, which you know, 137 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: it's not a ton, but is pretty dangerous. Well, a 138 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: physical hazard is insidious for the local just the local 139 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: people who are walking around it sure like falling in, yeah, 140 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: or maybe caving in. And by the way, I found 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: out that any mine feature that is like a hole 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: in the ground or even like if there's a depression 143 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: in the ground because of mine collapse some Yeah, they're 144 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: called glory holes. Did you know that? That was almost 145 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: a spit take, wasn't it. Yeah, that's not true. I 146 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: swear to god it is. Wow. I saw a sign 147 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: today of an abandoned mind called the glory whole mine. 148 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Well that's that's quite a name. Yeah, good for them. Uh, 149 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: mine tailings you talk about, and this is some of 150 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: the environmental hazards, and these can actually be physical hazards 151 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: too if you're living nearby. These are the remnants of 152 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: what was going on there of the mineral, and often 153 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: it can be very toxic and then that can either 154 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: be harmful to you or it can run off into 155 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: the water and be harmful to people, you know, downriver. 156 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: That was my point is things like um like addits 157 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: and other mine features. Um, they're dangerous if you're walking 158 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: around the mine. Environmental hazards of a mind can be 159 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: very far reaching because, in very much the same way 160 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: that acid rain is produced from like smoke stacks. These 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: mines can produce acid rain um and they can also 162 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: produce acid groundwater. When sulfide sulfide minerals and oxygen combined 163 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: with water, it produces acidic groundwater that can pollute an 164 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: entire water system downstream and then also chuck. There's mercury 165 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: tailings or a big problem, especially with gold mines. So 166 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, like if you take mercury and take gold 167 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: and put them together, mercury absorbs the gold, and you 168 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: get a rainbow, right, a deadly rain bow, uh, And 169 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: it makes what's called an amalgam. And then later on 170 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: so you have like you can take a little gold 171 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: flex or whatever and now they're like highly portable, stable 172 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: little things of mercury. And then you take them somewhere 173 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: else and you can burn the mercury off and the 174 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: mercury will vaporize and just the gold is left. Well, 175 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: the problem is is that mercury then immediately contaminates wherever 176 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: you just burned it off, and there's the atmosphere and everything. 177 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: But those kind of tailings are especially problematic and old 178 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: gold mines too. And does that end up in gold 179 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: schlager bottles. Probably is that where they get it. I 180 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I hope they're not putting formerly mercury gold 181 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: amalgam in the gold schlaw. No, the people that gold 182 00:10:43,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Schlager wouldn't do that. Uh So, Josh, if this is 183 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: such a problem, why wouldn't these companies clean up their 184 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: mind sites. It seems like a no brainer to me. 185 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: You're there, you do the work, you close it down, 186 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: you clean it up, make sure it's safe for everybody. 187 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: That's how you do it now. Yes, supposedly, Uh it 188 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: was not the case until nineteen seventy seven. For about 189 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: two years. People mind um even more than that. People 190 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: mind in the United States, willy nilly however they wanted, 191 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: and they would they would say, well, this mind's used up. 192 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't need it any longer. I'm walking away. Well, 193 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: the quick answer to my question answer now is money. 194 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: That's the real reason, because it's really expensive to clean 195 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: up your mind site. If you're a mining operation and 196 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you can pre what you can just fold up shop 197 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: and leave, why would you spend money to clean it up? 198 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: If you were a company without me like an cole 199 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: compass in a moral compass, because you know it's gonna 200 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: hit your bottom line. So screw it, let's just leave it. 201 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, I can't help but feel like you set 202 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: me up by asking me that question and expecting the 203 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: short answer, because I've never given a short answer. Well, 204 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: that is a short answer. UM two thousand and six 205 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: congressional testimony said it would cost seventy two billion dollars 206 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: to clean up only the hard rock minds, like at 207 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: the hard rock cafes. Right, that's seventy two billion dollars. Well, 208 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management, which we said is UM 209 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: responsible for finding these minds and for reclaiming them. Basically, UM, 210 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: they divide minds that they have to deal with in 211 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: the three categories. There's hard rock, which is like gold, 212 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: silver minerals, iron maybe yeah, I don't think they deal 213 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: with iron um. And then there's coal mines and then 214 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: uranium mines. Got it. Well, I saw on the East 215 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: coast they had a map of where a lot of 216 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: these abandoned minds are, and there's a lot of them 217 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: on the East coast, and there were I think a 218 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: lot of the coal mines. Oh yeah. Like there's Centraliy 219 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, which we talked about before, is an abandoned 220 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: town with a coal steam burning underneath. Oh yeah, that's right. 221 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Creepy um. So they abandoned the mines. Over time, land 222 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: records and lease records were lost. Basically take a reverse foreclosure. Yeah, 223 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: pretty much. And so in the end like no one's 224 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: on the hook. No one knows many times who these 225 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: minds originally like, who was responsible for this to begin with? 226 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: And even if they do know, the minors gonna be 227 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: like the do you have documentation that's other on that mine? 228 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: And the government goes no, and the mine owners says, 229 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: see you, or the other little loophole you wrote this right, yeah, 230 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: that you pointed out, which was if you have gone 231 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: through bankruptcy, then you can't be held liable. That is 232 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: no longer true. Oh is that not true? Yeah? Yeah, 233 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: I was happy to find in that there's there's You 234 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: now have to post a bond basically as a mining 235 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: company from what I understand from research I did very recently, 236 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: that you have to post a bond kind of like 237 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: a fidelity bond that as money you pay in upfront 238 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: that you get back if your mining operation successfully reclaims 239 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: the land. If you don't reclaim it, if reclamation isn't 240 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: like the end of your um mind or you go bankrupt, 241 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: that money is still there to pay for reclamation. So 242 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna correct the article. I think I should. I 243 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: think you should. People need to know that. UM. Here's 244 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: a little thing too, called the Clean Water Act, which UM, 245 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: obviously you're going to be violating that if you're letting 246 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: your toxins from your mind leak out into the groundwater, 247 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: big penalties. But um, as you pointed out that in 248 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, that was legislation to exempt people 249 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: from prosecution who were actually trying to clean up their minds, 250 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Like I want to go clean up my mind, and 251 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna exempt you, Uh, as long as you weren't 252 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the people who started the mind to begin with. From 253 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I guess exempt from the Clean Water Act? Yes, from 254 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: polluting because with tailings a lot of in a lot 255 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: of cases, UM, just removing them is going to some's 256 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna slip into the watershed. And if it's from say 257 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: a uranium, mind, well that's it's radioactive, and then your 258 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: water is radioactive and you're in you have to pay 259 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: a huge fine. Is it better to leave it? I 260 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: wonder it's better to not get any into the water shed? Well, 261 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: but can you clean it up without doing that? Yes, 262 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: I feel like what the government has been doing. The 263 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Beer of Land Management does, and they have a division 264 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: called the Abandoned mine Lands UM. They basically just build 265 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: a structure around it, kind of like what they did 266 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: with Chernobyl, but on a much smaller scale, where it's 267 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: basically like this is gonna stay here for a little while, 268 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: we'll just put this around it until it's not radioactive anylong. Okay, 269 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: that's the pressure I have what they're doing, at least 270 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: with radioactive stuff. Well, that legislation did not pass though, No, 271 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: it didn't, which seems like it would discourage people from 272 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: trying to clean these things up, right. Yeah, but I 273 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: also read testimony from UM this group called Earthworks, and 274 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: they were lobbying against that loophole, saying it was overly 275 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: broad Really that basically like if you just picked up 276 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of litter whatever, you were automatically exempt 277 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: from the Clean Water Act, so it could be used 278 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: to nefarious ends by a moral people. Well, you mentioned 279 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: the Abandoned mind Lands program under the Bureau of Land Management. UM, 280 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: they get funding roughly in the neighborhood of twelve to 281 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year, and you know we said 282 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: earlier it takes seventy billion to clean up I think 283 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: just a hard rock site. So they're doing the best 284 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: they can. UM. Over an eight year period they cleaned 285 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: up more than three thousand minds, which is awesome, But 286 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: when you've got potentially five dred thousand out there, it's 287 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: a little scared to think about. So to to remediate 288 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: a mind, you have to address the physical stuff and 289 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: the environmental stuff. You have to take care of the 290 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: tailings piles, you have to UM prevent any more acid 291 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: groundwater from being produced. You have to disassemble and carry 292 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: off any old machinery, any old buildings, maybe UM, and 293 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: you have to cover up entrances. But covering up a 294 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: mind shaft a glory hole as it's called in the 295 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: industry UM is not quite as cut and dry as 296 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: you think. You just put a huge, heavy metal slab 297 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: over it. The problem is is when you build a mind, 298 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, you've disturbed bat population. When 299 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: you UM abandon the mine, you basically are leaving this 300 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: bat population with a an awesome little place to live, 301 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: a playground. If you will exactly UM now bats are 302 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: really really essential to our comfort and happiness, and that 303 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: the average bat can kill something like six mosquitoes an 304 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: hour when it really wants to if it's frisky. So 305 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: we want to keep bats around. They're already being decimated 306 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: by a white nose fungus. Right, So people who are 307 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: reclaiming abandoned mind have figured out that there's ways that 308 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: you can keep humans out but let bats in and out. 309 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: And so they put on like bat couple of vertical shafts, 310 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: which is basically just like a little roof that has 311 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: slats to let the bats fly in and out. Yeah, 312 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: that makes sense, And a bat gate is virtually the 313 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: same thing, except it goes into like an addit bat 314 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: gate that couple of I think it's a great idea 315 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: because then like, you're not gonna find a kid down 316 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: in there. No, you're not disturbing the population of the 317 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: bat unless the kid is the size of a bat. 318 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: And even still, why is he not like bat boy? 319 00:18:45,080 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: That's his problem? Well, bat Boy's fine. Yeah. Um, So 320 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: the E p A UH started something called the super 321 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: fund UM, which basically means mining companies now pay into 322 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: this UH huge bank account to cover costs of future cleanups. 323 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: But that's not enough to meet the needs, so taxpayers 324 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: end up paying for the discrepancies. Not on mind my 325 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: tax money going towards that. So apparently nowadays since um, 326 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: part of the Abandoned Mind Reclamation Fund UM is that 327 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: if you're a mining company, you're putting in your paying 328 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: at tax basically for every uh thirty one for every 329 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: ton of surface coal that you mine and every ton 330 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: of underground coal, you're paying um thirty one point five 331 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: cents for surface coal and thirteen point five cents a 332 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: ton for underground mind stuff, and all that goes into 333 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: the super fun to reclaim it. That's not bad. Well 334 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: this this October, I think it's going to go down 335 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: to twelve cents and twenty eight cents attacks. Yeah. Um. 336 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Things times are tough all over for everybody. Yeah, they are. UM. 337 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: In nineteen eight six, Josh, as you point out, the 338 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Department of Interior created an award for mining excellence. It's 339 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: like Yard of the Month for abandoned mond and reclamaining. 340 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: I think it's called the Mining Award and um all 341 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: joking aside, it's very cool that they do this because um, 342 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, people are more responsible these 343 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: days with their mining operations. They're not all bad. Mining 344 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: is a vital thing. We're not trying to poop poo that. 345 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: And then we did like with the mountaintop removal. Coal 346 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: mining came down pretty hard. But um, a lot of 347 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: miners these days are pretty responsible and they are reclaiming 348 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: this land and uh going back in and planning vegetation 349 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: and trying to preserve old buildings and make those into 350 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: live work space condos exactly what they're doing. Yeah, so 351 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, keep it up is what I say. 352 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I agree, and be careful out there a TV people 353 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: in rock Cory swimmers. Yeah there. Um, if you see 354 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: a mind, stay away. I believe that's the name of 355 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: the program. Really yeah, stay away. Yeah. It's like you 356 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: know those cartoony posters with exclamation points and stuff like that. 357 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: Um P S A S that's what they're called. Uh. 358 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: I think if you do see a mind, go on 359 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: the internet and look up reporting abandoned minds and you 360 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: will find a way to do it, and that will 361 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: be helpful. You'll save some money, save some taxpayer money 362 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: if you report a mind yourself, agreed. Uh. If you 363 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: want to know more about abandoned minds and reclamation and 364 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff. You can type it into the search 365 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: bar at how stuff works dot com. And I said, 366 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: search bars means it's a time for That's right, Josh. 367 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: This closes out the trilogy. I'll go and start out 368 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: with Donna Fessler. My husband always wants to call my 369 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: beef vegetable soup as stew, but it is broth based. 370 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't argue um, and basically she's asking about this. 371 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: My recommendation, Donna is to go check out the podcast 372 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Judge John Hodgment because he has a full podcast on 373 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I Believe Chili Chili's Chowders, stews and soups and the differences. Right, 374 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: the first one, it was pretty early on. Judge John 375 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: will break it all down for you. Nice plug, Chuck, 376 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. Ryan Taylor. Question, what time is it a hammertime? 377 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Be time to make the donuts or see bure o'clock 378 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: time to make the donuts beer o'clock? We've going from 379 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: Jeremy Glover. Did either of you grew up watching Andy 380 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: Griffiths Show? I think he means the Andy Griffiths Show. Yeah, 381 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I certainly did. I did too, and reruns. Is there 382 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: anybody yes, same here. Is there anybody who is alive today? 383 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: They didn't grow up watching yet? Yeah, well he's asking 384 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: that because any Griffith did today? Oh really? Yeah, I 385 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: didn't know he's still alive he was till today. Wow, 386 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: that's that's well. He had quite a run. Yeah, he 387 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: was eighty six years old. Good full life, as as 388 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: Sheriff Andy Taylor Matlock And uh was that it? Those 389 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: there's two big characters. Didn't you have a third? Those 390 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: were the two big ones? Does any like the landlord 391 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: on threes company for a little while? No, I don't 392 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: think so. Tanya Chobez, it is my anniversary. Can you 393 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: do a quick shout out to my very patient husband, 394 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Abe Franklin. It would be a fun surprise, all right, Tania, 395 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: I think it's Tania. Happy anniversary to you and Abe. 396 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: Happy anniversary Tanya and Abe. Oh here's a good one. 397 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Nichols, Who would you most like to punch in 398 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: the face? That's sort of like the fight club question? 399 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: Who would you fight? Would I most like to punch 400 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: in the face? Would it be a good one? I 401 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: think myself many times. Yeah, that's very much like fight club. 402 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Actually I got someone else, but I can't say. I 403 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: think you know who it is. Oh yeah, I'd like 404 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: to punch him in the face. Yeah you got anyone. 405 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything. I guess anything. So that was 406 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of a cop out. Uh. Vitality says, would you 407 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: rather fight one hundred duck size horses or one horsed 408 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: sized duck? I love these questions one horse sized duck. 409 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: I don't go for the one horse sized duck because 410 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: you get like a sharpened stick in its neck. It's 411 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: over and done with. It's kind of like that um 412 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: garage full of guided missiles up in space. Yeah, you 413 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: take one out, you take ten out. If you've got 414 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: like a hundred duck sized horses coming at you, they're 415 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: going to get the best of you. Yeah. Plus, that's 416 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: just creepy, man. Can you imagine a hundred like one 417 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: ft tall horses coming after you? I find the horse 418 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: sized duck creepier. I don't. I don't mind that. That's 419 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: some good eating too. Oh yeah, uh Micah Mia Mia Mea. 420 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Paul Cannell says. However, Maya Maya says, how is Atlanta 421 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: really quality of life? Would you recommend it? I would? 422 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: I love Atlanta I'm from here, and I moved back 423 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: here for a reason. Josh, do you like Atlanta? Sure, 424 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: Atlanta's great. Atlanta is great, Robert Casey, Is Jerry as 425 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: smoking hot as we think she is? And more? My friend, 426 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say about that. Have you ever 427 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: gotten a threatening uh listener mail from Nathaniel Yeager? No? 428 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: Nothing threatening? Really like physically threatening? Um? Uh? No? Menacing? 429 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: How about that? I've gotten a couple of little crazy ones, 430 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: but never menacing. Care to share? No, okay, I want 431 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: to set anybody off. How about one more? Okay, let's see. Um. 432 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Why is cilantro so divisive? From Heidi Wells? Good question, 433 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Heidi Wells, that is a good one. Cilantro, the herb 434 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: also known as coriander or um Chinese salary I believe 435 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: in some quarters or clan. Yeah, um, that's pretty good, 436 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: thank you. H is divisive because it strikes different people's 437 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: tongues differently. It's really big time right some people, cilantro 438 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: is a glorious herb, including and me. I love solant 439 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: me too. To other people, it tastes very much like soap. Yeah, 440 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: my friend says that, and there is actually if you're 441 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: interested a video on web md that addresses this question, 442 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: and if you watch very closely, the filmmaker, who is 443 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: a friend of mine who I know through Humi, put 444 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: in a moment where he takes a thing of Paul 445 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: malive and puts it over a taco and it happens 446 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: just for a second, but it's pretty brilliant. Want to 447 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: it was just funny. Look at Yeah, it's like, did 448 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: you just put soap on a taco? Yeah? There you go. Well, 449 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: here's what I have to say. I feel sorry for 450 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: people who have that taste reaction too, because cilantro to 451 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: me is one of the great great things in UH. 452 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: On food and some drinks. Yes, I put a little 453 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: cilantro Margarita's from time to time, so good. It's really nice. 454 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: And a couple of slices of Hall of Peno. Yeah 455 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: all right, I'm hungry, thirsty. I am too, man, Let's 456 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: go with some guacamole. Uh. If you have questions for 457 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Chuck and I, you can tweet to us at s 458 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: y ESK podcast. 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