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Speaker 1: the One the Only Luke Holmes. We have a little

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Speaker 1: It's been a long weekend. Been a very very long weekend.

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Speaker 1: I was not only in Vegas doing regular Vegas things

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Speaker 1: with the UFC and the Power Step and all that.

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Speaker 1: Last second, I'm like, tell my wife and kids, you

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Speaker 1: little bit to late nights, early mornings. I'm in an arcade.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Fremont Street. I'm ripping packs. That ve that's Vegas,

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Speaker 1: that's Vegas. That's what happens. What happens when you go

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. You rip packs with your kids. You rip

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Speaker 1: packs with your kids. That you do So what are

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Speaker 1: we getting into that? What do you bet? I think,

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Speaker 1: my sweet Prince.

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Speaker 2: What's even going on?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything happening today? On Monday?

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Speaker 3: Sam Ellinger or he re signed with the Broncos. Sam, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: oneion dollars deal, keep them guessing. You see, the Huskers

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Speaker 3: took down the Hawkeyes and basketball.

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Speaker 1: O t that's all the snowball effects, the snow right

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Speaker 4: Also, Michigan took Michigan State and Michigan State some dirty

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Speaker 1: Dirty ass school school, that's a dirty school. But yes,

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Speaker 1: Also Michigan first team to go undefeated out of the road,

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Speaker 1: uh in the Big Ten since like nineteen sixty four

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Speaker 2: Don't pop that at the end.

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Speaker 1: Who's just yeah, we're not a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: the we're a basketball school or a hockey school. For

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Speaker 1: mission's a sports school, dude, they are, they're doing the thing.

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Speaker 1: They're never won in hockey right now too. I know

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Speaker 1: hockey's been big for me in this last couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that you actually big for hockey?

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Speaker 2: Should we hockey?

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Speaker 1: Should we get to the biggest seventy five? Nineteen seventy

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Speaker 5: That says last undefeated n CUAA D one men's basketball team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Hey we're not experts on the show.

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Speaker 1: But the last in the Big Ten team finished without

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Speaker 1: now they finished undefeated. We just finished undefeated in the

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Speaker 2: Got you? We got one.

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Speaker 1: Slice of the pie, not the hole.

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Speaker 5: You sat on the road for a second, and that's

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Speaker 5: why I'm like, is that the truth?

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Speaker 1: But I read it, you know how the brain works.

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Speaker 1: You saw it reading a second ago. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: NFL for agency while I was in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, NFL freezingly kind of started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it the little tampering period?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm talking about the commodore condor the command.

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Speaker 5: The biggest headline in free agency, Max going to the

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Speaker 5: Baltimore Raven for what.

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Speaker 1: Two first round picks? Is that what it was does

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Speaker 1: anybody think the Ravens overpaid it all in the back?

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Speaker 5: I definitely, Well, there was a and again this is

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Speaker 5: this is excellre. There was a stat out there all

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Speaker 5: the first rounders who've gotten like traded were they didn't

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Speaker 5: So it kind of depends on what metric you going by.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's done it until someone like.

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Speaker 5: Max Crosby is a Hall of Fame defensive end that

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Speaker 5: is currently like still in his prime. Absolutely, Ravens made

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Speaker 5: an incredible move. They're clearly all in to win the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl this year. Like they're all in. They have

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Speaker 5: a home wrecker on the line of scrimmage on defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: then you got Rokwan Smith second level, Coylin Hamilton, Kyle

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Speaker 5: Hamilton on the third level like their dial like Baltimore Ravens, Like,

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Speaker 5: I'm fired up for Max Max and the purple the

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Speaker 5: black that he just seems Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Ras the pale skin is gonna pop off that purpose. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great contrast.

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Speaker 5: Yes, similar to how I was with the silver and black.

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Speaker 5: Yep on the Macro Ravens. Gotta I think they both

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Speaker 5: won because you got Raiders now two first round picks.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get a quarterback with first of all, it's

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Speaker 5: probably gonna be for Nana Mendoza. Ye, So you got

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Speaker 5: a quarterback that you're buying into for the future. You

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Speaker 5: got two first round picks that you're getting to continue

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Speaker 5: to load up on draft capital for all of the

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Speaker 5: holes that they have with the Raiders right now, you

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Speaker 5: gotta ship off your best player, like your best leader, everything, everybody.

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Speaker 5: Everything that embodied being a Raider was Max Crosby, right,

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Speaker 5: him going to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: That sucks.

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Speaker 5: But if you're a Raiders fan on just the pure

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Speaker 5: business side, on building toward the future, I think it's

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Speaker 5: like both sides kind of won.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the side just from my own, this is what

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Speaker 1: I would do if I was a GM. I love

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Speaker 1: the idea of acquiring assets that are already proven in

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Speaker 1: players that you know are good bring them to your team,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to going to the draft and having more

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Speaker 1: more bus, a lot more bus out there as opposed

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Speaker 1: to I mean, this is a crazy comparison, because this dude,

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Speaker 1: like you said, as a Hall of Fame, a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame defensive player. The issue with the Ravens has

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Speaker 1: never been the name talent on their roster. Like going

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Speaker 1: all the names they have, they should have the best

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Speaker 1: defense and all of all the NFL. Now, their biggest

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Speaker 1: issue last year was getting was getting to the foot,

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Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. They're going to fix that quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. I don't think they know what's coming in practice.

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Speaker 1: We truly don't know what's coming practice. But everything you

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Speaker 1: hear about practices, you're gonna have to take Max Crossby

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Speaker 2: You can function, to figure out they can have some success.

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Speaker 1: And then the question mark is is Lamar Jackson still

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I know a lot of people that like

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Speaker 1: he had his hamstring and even when he came back

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Speaker 1: Keep him healthy, Max on the edge, But they might be.

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Speaker 5: Them Ravens are in a great spot. I think the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: We just talked about the macro on the micro I

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Speaker 1: With the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: And again I can I can tell the audience from

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Speaker 5: things that I've just heard, and it's very like, this

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Speaker 5: the relationships, everything else the way I used to be.

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Speaker 5: But things that I've heard shows that there are massive

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Speaker 5: question marks, like within the organization, like Tom Brady having

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Speaker 5: all the juice that he has. Who's is a pty?

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Speaker 5: Is it Alex Guerrero or Guerrera.

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Speaker 1: Sounds about right? A name sounds correct.

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Speaker 5: The guy who worked on Tom brady TB twelve method,

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Speaker 5: like the guys who would use Alex as Alex Guerrero,

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Speaker 5: who would use Alex Guerrero as like their third party

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Speaker 5: guy like away from the Patriots he is now it

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Speaker 5: seems like he has a lot of control inside the organization,

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Speaker 5: and there's a lot of friction and pushback with how

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Speaker 2: He is like a minority owner.

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Speaker 5: I think it's super interesting because of all the TV

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Speaker 5: It sounds like he is. And again this is more hearsay.

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Speaker 5: I don't know this too him. A lot of this

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Speaker 5: is assumption. This is just like hearing all the things

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Speaker 5: that I've heard I have Obviously I have a great

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Speaker 5: relationship with Max, but we never like talk about that

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Speaker 5: side of everything.

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Speaker 2: So you can take it for what it is.

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Speaker 5: But what I've just heard is that Tom has a

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Speaker 5: lot of juice inside the organization and it's ruffled feathers

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Speaker 5: because of the empowerment of an Alex Guerrero.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you look at it from the outside

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, Tom Brady the best football player

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Speaker 1: of all time, he now is going to give all

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Speaker 1: of his little nuggets and little jewels to be able

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Speaker 1: to be like this is how you guys are great.

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Speaker 5: But which there's value, Yeah, there's obviously value in that.

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Speaker 1: The question mark for me with Tom is how how

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Speaker 1: much is this the main storyline for him? Because he's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my instinct. And again Max and I don't talk

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Speaker 5: There are ally in all facets of everything. So Tom

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense, buddy, Yes, like that you painted.

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Speaker 2: That do you get all that?

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Speaker 3: If I could just piggyback on that, it reminded me

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Speaker 6: You broke it down in such detail that I understand

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Speaker 1: Okay, we need to clip that. I'd be like, just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all Raiders fans should listen to that, ye, in

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Speaker 1: Solves everything.

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Speaker 5: The insight is doing what it should be doing to

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Speaker 1: Because hey, when you get into the mental part of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, going back to you talking about the Raiders on

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Speaker 7: picks in the last like five or six years.

437
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Speaker 2: Are no longer on the team.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question.

439
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Speaker 7: Do you think they're going to use that as to

440
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Speaker 7: go get a big fish or do you think they're

441
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Speaker 7: going to try and draft.

442
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Speaker 5: Clearly they think a little bit, they feel a little

443
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Speaker 5: bit more. They probably feel confident going into this draft

444
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Speaker 5: on getting those first round picks. I'm sure they're not like, oh,

445
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Speaker 5: we suck at picking first rounders. Why do we have

446
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Speaker 5: first round picks at our disposal? We suck at picking

447
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 5: first rounders. Right, They need a lot of pieces, So

448
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 5: I understand the move from a business perspective. You take

449
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 5: out all the micro you take out the feelings everything

450
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Speaker 5: going on, Like you had this in the way, a

451
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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame player to get two first round picks

452
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Speaker 5: along with the first overall pick. You have Ashton genty,

453
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Speaker 5: But you need an offensive line, like you need so

454
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Speaker 5: many guys. You clearly need guys on defense now like

455
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Speaker 5: they need They have so many holes.

456
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Speaker 7: I mean if you go back and look at their

457
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Speaker 7: last first round draft picks, I mean Cleveland Ferrell, Johnson, Abrams,

458
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Speaker 7: like they're no, they were no longer on the team

459
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Speaker 7: after two to three years.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a different regime.

461
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Speaker 7: And I mean who used to say like this, whether

462
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Speaker 7: it's Tom or whoever it's doing.

463
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Speaker 1: Because now they have Kobiak the biggest question because yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: you look at the Raiders roster and it's like there's

465
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Speaker 1: so many holes there. That's like you really you got

466
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Speaker 1: to do a bunch of patchwork. It's not going to

467
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Speaker 1: work with having two first round picks when this is

468
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Speaker 1: not going to solve all of your issues. So there's

469
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Speaker 1: a lot of time till the draft where you can

470
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Speaker 1: go find the players you want, maybe grab a couple

471
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Speaker 1: of guys that are more mid level for those first

472
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Speaker 1: round picks, or throw a second round pick in there.

473
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Speaker 1: Because the biggest question mark, and if you look back

474
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Speaker 1: at how the coaching carouself was going, the Raiders and

475
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals came down to the last two teams that

476
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Speaker 1: were able to find their head coach. Both of them

477
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Speaker 1: were vying for Clint Kubiak. Raiders end up getting Clint Kubiak,

478
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Speaker 1: but I'm sure in that process because of how the

479
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Speaker 1: two franchises kind of handled themselves and their decision making

480
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Speaker 1: process and how quickly they make decisions, it's more difficult

481
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Speaker 1: to sit there as a up and coming OC like

482
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Speaker 1: Kubiak was at Seattle and be like, do I really

483
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Speaker 1: want to dive off into this deep end with this team,

484
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if eighteen months from now or

485
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Speaker 1: a year from now, I'm already on a hot seat.

486
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Speaker 1: When you look at the roster and you're like, I know,

487
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Speaker 1: like I believe in my brain and my abilities to

488
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Speaker 1: put these guys in good positions. But do I actually

489
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Speaker 1: have the talent to operate in a sense that I

490
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Speaker 1: can get into January type.

491
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Speaker 5: Of football in the leadership above me to get the

492
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Speaker 5: pieces that were ATYI.

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Speaker 1: I bet you that's what was one of the reasons

494
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Speaker 1: that took a little bit longer to get to. I

495
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Speaker 1: think it was a Super bowls right after the Super

496
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Speaker 1: Bowl when Kubiak took the job there right so clearly

497
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Speaker 1: he's in the playoffs. I'm not going to make the

498
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Speaker 1: decision till after. But a lot of times, you know

499
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Speaker 1: they've already made the decision. They've told them everyone behind

500
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Speaker 1: closed doors kind of knows. I could see that conversation

501
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Speaker 1: with Kuby a being, as you know, highly touted, as

502
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Speaker 1: he was sitting down with Davis and being like, I

503
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Speaker 1: need to know, like what your patience level is going

504
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: into this as I see your roster, and but let

505
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Speaker 1: me tell you it's not great because there's so much

506
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Speaker 1: for them to do and.

507
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Speaker 5: Kubiak being an offensive guy. Like again, speaking on the

508
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Speaker 5: optimism side, is if you think, Foranana Mendoz is gonna

509
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Speaker 5: be who you think he's going to be as a

510
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Speaker 5: number one overall pick.

511
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Speaker 2: You'll have you have.

512
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Speaker 5: Ashton Genty, who is a stud. Brock Bauers, Michael Mayer like,

513
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Speaker 5: you have some pieces, foundational things to build around, and

514
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 5: now through free agency in the draft, it's like, how

515
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Speaker 5: do you get a line of scrimmage? Get a wide receiver?

516
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Speaker 5: On right?

517
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Speaker 7: Myers, If I'm the Raiders, I'm if I'm a Raiders fan,

518
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Speaker 7: i am extremely pessimistic right now.

519
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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, I'm the opposite, the opposite.

520
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Speaker 5: The messages I've gotten is it doesn't it. It's more

521
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 5: pessimism than you.

522
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Speaker 1: Gotta be optimistic, gotta believe every year is your year.

523
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Speaker 1: You got to get in there.

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Speaker 2: This is a franchise, bro that's that you're coming from.

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Speaker 5: I agree, early two thousands, like probably maybe longer than

526
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Speaker 5: that most head coach turnover, organizational turnover.

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. The Raiders are now kind of coming

528
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Speaker 1: out as like the front runner for all that, when

529
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Speaker 1: really we looked at the Browns for the longest time,

530
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Speaker 1: the fans before Joe Burrow got there, the sales, the Jets.

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Speaker 5: And the one core thing that you at least had

532
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Speaker 5: no matter what, was just I'm proud that Max Crosby

533
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Speaker 5: is on a football.

534
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Speaker 1: Team, and did that news broke? He's gone that news

535
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Speaker 1: broke Friday? Yeah, I'm Max was supposed to go to

536
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Speaker 1: Powaslop Friday obviously doesn't come for a very smart move

537
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Speaker 1: by him. Everybody was talking about it the entire time,

538
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Speaker 1: Like local Las Vegas people were like devastated at the

539
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: idea that they're like, they're king is now gone. Yeah,

540
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Speaker 1: it just sucks.

541
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Speaker 2: And smart move for him to do it on his pod.

542
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Speaker 1: So what we got that idea?

543
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Speaker 2: Beautiful?

544
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Speaker 1: Oh beautiful. I'll tell you what. Who do you think

545
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: is formatter Raiders fan base or Jamar Chase? Who was

546
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: more mad about the Max Crosby trade news. For those

547
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: of you that don't know what was it, Jamar Chase.

548
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Speaker 1: He was on a Twitch stream. He's at like a

549
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: he's just sitting on him. Did you hear his voice? Yeah?

550
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: And apparently get you allegedly gets a text from Joe

551
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Speaker 1: Burrow saying that Max Crosby has been traded to the Ravens,

552
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Speaker 1: and his words where I believe highly fucking pissed. Highly

553
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Speaker 1: fucking pissed was a phrase, a direct quote that I

554
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Speaker 1: heard could be a I could could not be I

555
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Speaker 1: don't know. This game is already above my head. I

556
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: can't handle it. But seems like people are a little terrified.

557
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Speaker 3: Would love to think that Joe Burrow sent that text

558
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: message to Jamar Chase while he's at the blackjack.

559
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Speaker 2: Table with Jessica Alba.

560
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: Yes, bro, hang on, Jess, I gotta text my boy

561
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Speaker 3: real click the saying good.

562
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Speaker 2: For us Joe's bum.

563
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Speaker 5: But then jess Galva's on your arm.

564
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Speaker 1: How can you get how old is Jessalva? No, it doesn't.

565
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, it doesn't.

566
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Speaker 2: She's a woman, bro, a business woman.

567
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

568
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Speaker 3: Where to celebrate the Internets Women's Day?

569
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Speaker 1: Yes, bro, Yeah, yeah, age, Mat, that was a dumb question.

570
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys.

571
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Speaker 1: Calm me out for that. Joe just wins, man, He

572
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: just wins.

573
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Speaker 2: Except on the football field.

574
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Speaker 1: Just right now.

575
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: Listen, just right now, just right now. That wasn't That

576
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: wasn't anything.

577
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Speaker 1: That was the way you said it, the way you

578
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: saw Joe. You said like you were in a rush

579
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Speaker 1: to get it out, like you wanted to say it,

580
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: but he was from the football fielder. Just get there there, like, hey,

581
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: we got this is a long form show. You tell

582
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: you to jump the gun like that. Joe Burrow, I

583
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: will say this. We've talked about our white buffalos all

584
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Speaker 1: the time, and I ever since the Super Bowl, Joe

585
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Speaker 1: Burrow is my number one player, number one person over

586
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: Vince Fawn that I need to get on bustled. He

587
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: is efficient the way he just I'm sure Justice Alba

588
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: felt the same thing, like he should he he I

589
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Speaker 1: trust me. I not only said this, I for the

590
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Speaker 1: first time in my life, took time to think about.

591
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Speaker 2: It more than Hey, more than it's been how many weeks?

592
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Speaker 1: Is super Bowl a month? More like we're in a

593
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: month category. I've thought about.

594
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Speaker 2: Joe every day, more than Johnny Knoxville.

595
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Speaker 1: More than Johnny Knoxville. Well, Vince Font's my one, more

596
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: than Travis Stauna, more than Machine Gun Kelly, more than

597
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: machine and Kelly, Yes.

598
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 5: More than if we had more than if we had

599
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 5: Blinkin on the bus all together.

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Speaker 1: There it is there. It is no Blake the entire band.

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00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: You're right, absolutely. I had a dream about them the

602
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Speaker 1: other day. Can I tell you guys my dream quickly?

603
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: I know this is not that kind of show. This

604
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: is a real dream. So much show, so much show.

605
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: I called my wife the morning I had this dream.

606
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Speaker 1: I was in Nashville. I had a dream. I was

607
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Speaker 1: with Mark, Tom and Travis and they're playing We're playing together.

608
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't play. We're all playing together, and I'm like,

609
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be sick if we sang this song.

610
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: But Mark, you saying Tom's versus and Tom say Mark

611
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Speaker 1: and their minds were fucking blown by that. Woke up

612
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: so happy. That's it. That's the end of the story.

613
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you boys. Blake with eighteen number one.

614
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow too, just the way he said turned us down,

615
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: turns down and then and then reverted to you just

616
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: gotta find me on the right day, which mean you

617
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: feel like we need to set up shop in Cincinnati

618
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: until he's ready.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

620
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Speaker 5: It sounds like Joe Burrow's gone beyond a white boy

621
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Speaker 5: with motion.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah, he's breaking all sorts of trends right now. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 1: but you gotta feel for him.

624
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Speaker 2: I mean t J.

625
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: Watt, Miles Garrett, Max Crosby.

626
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Speaker 1: I mean dear God Tree Hendrickson's in freegency.

627
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, most sacked, most hit quarterback.

628
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah do, which begs the question, there is that stat

629
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Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow and Andrew Luck and Andrew Luck with

630
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: everyone was like, look, how tough Andrew Luck is? This

631
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: guy He gets hit all the time and he still

632
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: sits in there and faces it. Joe Burrow statistically has

633
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: been hit more in the same amount of games. Is

634
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow tougher than Andrew Luck? Is that? The question?

635
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: What season? Did Andrew Luck retire in?

636
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Eight? Eight?

637
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 4: And where's Joe right now?

638
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: I think at this let's say he's going to seven.

639
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: So at the six year mark, they've been hit sacked.

640
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: Sam mount right here one for.

641
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: Bro through seventy one games compared to Luck one hundred

642
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: and fifty seven.

643
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

644
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: But are you taking in a fight?

645
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

646
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: I think on paper if we're just having fun with

647
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: it now, Joe.

648
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: Have you seen Andrew Luck now? Yeah, But I mean

649
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: he's full of Stanford's.

650
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: Bro I'm talking truck and fools out there.

651
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: You're talking.

652
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: No, No, he's flipping that, he's flipping that.

653
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: I'll take Andrew Luck in a fight.

654
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen a recent photo of Andrew Luck?

655
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 5: Hey, don't get fooled by the Clark can't look when Yeah, you.

656
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Put those you put those on Luke Kickley. Yeah, I

657
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Speaker 1: feel differently, right, Taylor. He does no sleeper build Taylor.

658
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Speaker 4: You know this more than anyone.

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Speaker 8: If you're a Titans fan, you know that Andrew Luck

660
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Speaker 8: beat the dog shit out of us for his whole career.

661
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 8: I honestly have to take Andrew love out of respect.

662
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 8: I mean truly, it was a massacre.

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665
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666
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Speaker 2: It's a happy boy. He just wasn't happy playing. He

667
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Speaker 5: with Loose Bobs, what other moves have happened? I saw

694
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Speaker 5: TWOA got released to four Time four Time Care, DJ

695
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 5: More to the Bills.

696
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big one. I think that's actually which

697
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: one you. I think DJ Moore to the Bills.

698
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: I think that's huge for the bills.

699
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: The biggest issue they had. Basically, it turned into Josh

700
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Allen has to be Superman every single game in order

701
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: for them to even make it to the super Bowl

702
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: or make it run. And would they have Shakir they

703
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: had Uhie Coleman. Yeah, he had a whole bunch of

704
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was maturity issues, showing up

705
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: late whatever. It was great offensive line, but like it

706
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: really was like, you have no weapons on the perimeter

707
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: to really help you out. This is a massive addition

708
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: for them. Would love to see the Bills make one

709
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: more move like that on the offensive side of the ball,

710
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: maybe a little what were they the number one run defense,

711
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: number thirty two pass defense or was it flipped?

712
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: Might have been flipped?

713
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: So okay, you find yourself a nice little nose or

714
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: a three technique and then Bank get you another perimeter guy.

715
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: And I love the Bills, Like this is turning into

716
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: like I think like Josh Allen's going into his joker face,

717
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: like he's going he's he's about that.

718
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: He's gonna I think this is Bill's super Bowl.

719
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm about Tom about Yeah, I'm getting close to you.

720
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: They make another move, I'm back on him again. Ravens

721
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: are show me, don't tell me.

722
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Speaker 8: Another breaking not confirmed yet, but Adam Scheffner two seconds ago.

723
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 8: Falcons are expected to pursue to a tongue of Iloa.

724
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh shit really yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Travis

725
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Kelcey expected to return. Couldn't see Travis Kelsey going anywhere else.

726
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: No, No, they're gonna work something out there.

727
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: He can.

728
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: They can put out all the articles they want that

729
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: he's open and talking to other teams like that's all,

730
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: that's all optics. Yeah, he's gonna be a can't see

731
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Speaker 5: chief for yeah.

732
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He can't go out on a shield like

733
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: like they did.

734
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Last Yeah, to a tongue of iloa, going to the Falcons.

735
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: My opinion doesn't change by the Falcons. Third in the division, Okay, right,

736
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: there's some maybe fourth, there's some speculator maybe fourth. That's

737
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: clean take. That's that's that's clean take.

738
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Cent your food, that's a good, clean take.

739
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: That's clean take. No disrespect the tua. But once again

740
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you gotta kind of show me, don't

741
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: tell me ninety two. Mili, I'm stoked for you. You've been paid.

742
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: But just when your boy was ripping packs. I went

743
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: to a couple of trading like a couple of car places,

744
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: and I got some like I think, what twenty twenty,

745
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: what was their rookie year, twenty one, whatever it was,

746
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, if you pull anybody but Tua

747
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: in this pack, you'll you're doing good. That's how you

748
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: know it was bad. It's made it to the trading cards.

749
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: Ship.

750
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: Can't feel good for your pennis, No, yeah, yeah, but yeah,

751
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: but he the mobility, the injuries, it's just the same.

752
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: But one's lower, one's upper. As far as the injuries.

753
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: Goes, the upper is the brain.

754
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's they That is it. You're absolutely right.

755
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: He's one gang sign away from my plane anymore.

756
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, rich boy talking about fencing.

757
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: We'll leave that in. But this is just not a representation.

758
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: As not Yeah, Will Compton and Taylor one did not

759
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, we don't promote ct here. Hey, we

760
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: just have it.

761
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: On a w though for the Bears, going back to

762
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: DJ Moore, they got a secondround pick from it too,

763
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: so I think I think that one was also a win.

764
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: Win, But I feel like.

765
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: Bears kind of need him.

766
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: Bears needing, but just from seeing kind of everything unfold,

767
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 5: Like it's not like DJ Moore was touching.

768
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: The rock a whole lot.

769
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 5: And to be honest, and you saw even if you're

770
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: the whole argument and this is this is a small example,

771
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 5: but the last route where he was kind of like

772
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: jogging on.

773
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Like that, there could have been something everywhere.

774
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 5: DJ Moore, He's now got different grass, greener grass to go,

775
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: you know, reset, restart. It probably just wasn't a fit

776
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 5: with the Bears, and then they can both kind of

777
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: move on. Bears gonna get second around draft capital, Yeah

778
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

779
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good that they where they DJ Moore got

780
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: here from the Panthers to the Bears originally correct that

781
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: he got. That's good that they got good draft equity

782
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: out of him as well just a few years later. Really,

783
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: the Bears all they need is when Caleb Williams feet

784
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: are set to be accurate, because whenever he's off script,

785
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: he's the greatest football player I've ever watched. But if

786
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: he can just you know, throw a slant with his

787
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: feet set, I don't think anybody's.

788
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: I don't want his feet said ever, keep him on

789
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 5: the move always. I want it cut. Cut the field

790
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: in half.

791
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: We're rolling left, rolling right. I would love to see

792
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: the evolution of Caleb Williams just dropping back hitch and

793
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: just paint one right on somebody's chest. Yeah, that to

794
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: me is just that's football porn to me. Right there,

795
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: the kids got all he's already got that's not that's

796
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: the next level. I want you want to running.

797
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: I want him run it like back in high school.

798
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 5: Would be called the seven hundred series, which is rolling left,

799
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 5: eight hundred series, which is rolling right. Nine hundred series

800
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: was dropped back. We get the nine hundred series out

801
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: of there. We're going left and right every play one

802
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: you might fake go right and then hey, Caleb, do

803
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: is spin back around to the other set?

804
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Called that Randall and Lamar with the Titans. Yeah, it's

805
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: the blind you're faking and you're doing a full roll out. Yeah,

806
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: you got two thirds of the field now, as opposed

807
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: to half of the field for aging signs.

808
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: A J.

809
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: Brown heard saw a tweet. Not a whole lot of traction.

810
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of traction right now, A whole

811
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: lot going on with to see A J.

812
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 5: Brown end up a patriot? Yes, you know who else?

813
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 5: I'd love to see end up a patriot?

814
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Can I guess? Give me give me a f C.

815
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: NFC okay a f C Okay? South am I right? South? Okay?

816
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Hard working, hardworking.

817
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 5: Sneaky, athletic okay, gritty, all right, all the intangibles.

818
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, Nope, that's NFC. Hold on, Jeffrey Simmons.

819
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Nope, he's got motion.

820
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: No, I don't have it.

821
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: You can't quite put your finger on it, can you.

822
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: No.

823
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: Alec Pierce, Alec Pearce, this is is that's a patriot.

824
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: I've never got that in a million years, even in

825
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: my brain.

826
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Right now he's out there.

827
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to myself, he's about.

828
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: To get paid. I think that's a patriot through the

829
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 2: league last two years and yards for catch. He's just done.

830
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh come on now, all right, all right.

831
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: But a couple right there looking patriots thinking about braves.

832
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Braves.

833
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: If you're listening to us, and we know you do

834
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: every week, come he does.

835
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 5: We already know the A. J. Brown one, but it

836
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 5: just Alec Pierce, this would be rudy. I'm putting my

837
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 5: jersey on the table.

838
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Get him to.

839
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: New England, Get him to New England. Two weapons done? Uh, frage.

840
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: He's going to be massive. But who's fighting Logan Paul

841
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: is the question? Hang on, hang on?

842
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: I got one more, one more speculation, one more speculation

843
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 5: going on out there.

844
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Mike Evans to the forty nine.

845
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: Ers, clean take, Yeah, clean that off.

846
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: Mike Evans to the forty nine ers, speculation.

847
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: Why have you? Can I ask you this? Have you

848
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: heard anything he heard?

849
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 8: Expect released within the next hour and then there should

850
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 8: be motion in that.

851
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: By now that you're listening, there should be an answer.

852
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: It should be done. So just know if it happened,

853
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: will Compton called it? You're not hearing it afterwards, A.

854
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 5: Clean take from the bus. We would love to see

855
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 5: Mike Evans in a forty nine ers years.

856
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Would love to see Mike Evans in the forty nine uniform.

857
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that one. Keep an eye on

858
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: all right.

859
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: I'll do one and then we'll go to Logan Paul,

860
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, the Jets. Kyler Murray, the Jets. I like

861
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: something about it. He just seems like they love their runners.

862
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: They love guys that can scamper around a little bit.

863
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 5: A counter on reports out there, Okay vikings for Kyler Murray.

864
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 5: Interesting former first rounder.

865
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: I believe somebody in Kevin O'Connell pre pro meetings had

866
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: backup nine.

867
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Is that, Derek?

868
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: I he Ain't you get Kyler Murray on the Vikings

869
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: and Kevin O'Connell. They tap into that potential. Yeah, No,

870
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray is a baller, bro. You think he's sitting

871
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: behind nine.

872
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 8: Stock an employee bust with the Boys, biggest K one

873
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 8: fan that's out there on Friday, he made a prediction

874
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 8: for the Vikings. I wasn't aware of this. Kyler Murray

875
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 8: grew up a Vikings fan, even though he's a Texas guy.

876
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 8: He didn't want to be in the Cowboys regime. He

877
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 8: says they sucked, So he was a Vikings fan.

878
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

879
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: Do with that information what you will.

880
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: I still love the idea of Aaron Rodgers and the

881
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: Vikings kind of making love for one year. Yeah, Coop

882
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: is Coop stays down?

883
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: Were you talking? You were just saying Rogers and Vikings.

884
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Rogers, Vikings. I think there's an experience like all that.

885
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man K one with Kevin O'Connell, Bro, Jay Jets.

886
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Anybody with Kevin O'Connell. Honestly, you see that Jefferson, Justin

887
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Jefferson and nine unfollowed each other on Instagram. Wait what yeah,

888
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: so we instagram drama. This is allegedly please look it

889
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: up for me. Someone told me and showed me. But

890
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: they might have re followed each other, but we had

891
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: uh nine and Justin Jefferson. I believe Justin Jefferson was

892
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: the first one. This is allegedly unfollowed nine nine his

893
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: rebuttal unfollowing Justin Jefferson on Instagram. Yeah, that's that's TMZ

894
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: sports right there.

895
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 5: And I know on the surface that seems laughable and petty,

896
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 5: but that is a sure just looked it up.

897
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 4: That's today's football though, Today's that's.

898
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: How you know, that's how you know. So drama taking place.

899
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: And I understand Justin Jefferson. You under says he has

900
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: a finite amount of time. He's getting older, he is

901
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: in his prime right now. Just a year ago, they're like, hey,

902
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: greatest wide receiver in the NFL has a down year

903
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: this year? Is Justin Jefferson? Is it because the person's

904
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: throwing them the ball? A lot of people say it's

905
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: the guy that's throwing him the football.

906
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: So back and.

907
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Forth emotions egos. Ryan Holiday's trying to enter the chat.

908
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: They won't open the door. There's a lot of stuff

909
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: taking place, So we will.

910
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: See Dudek throwing bombs to Justin Jefferson.

911
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: That won't be crazy, and then all the DB's back

912
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: up and he just scampers for twenty five scoots.

913
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you what that that division because the

914
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 5: Vikings were the they were the anchor in that division.

915
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: And then also the Lions. Taylor Decker is requesting a trade.

916
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: They cut Graham Glasgow.

917
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem out like Alex Adzelonei's going back there.

918
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like, uh, Crackson foundation, Crackston foundation with

919
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: the Lions Packers.

920
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: It's just a rehinder how quickly things can just change

921
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: in one year. Yeah, like when you have it and

922
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 5: you're like, one moment, when did the Lions get knocked out?

923
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: Three years ago? Was it the was it the divisional round?

924
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't the conference?

925
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: Just no, this is the NFC Championship, NFC championshi is

926
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: and just again forty nine ers, right, Uh, this is

927
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: the year the forty nine Ers played the Chiefs and

928
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yes,

929
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: junior twenty eight, twenty twenty four. Yeah, and then so

930
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: go ahead continue.

931
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, like, you know, there, you're

932
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: thinking Dan Campbell, the Lions, this organization, like they're going

933
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: to be back in this spot year in and year out. Right,

934
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: they're chasing the Super Bowl to now we're getting that.

935
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 5: We're having these conversations about Taylor Decker.

936
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: I wonder why you requested a trade.

937
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Glasgow moving on, Frank Wragg now retiring. Yeah, I

938
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 5: feel like that's what maybe, yeah, yeah, I see, But

939
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: just like the turnover, how quickly things can.

940
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: It's always year in and year out. Bro.

941
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 5: That's why it's like when you touch it and taste

942
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 5: it and you get knocked out and guys like, oh,

943
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: we'll be back, it's like, man, that is not how

944
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: this year.

945
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: And you know who had who broke that down just

946
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: beautifully was Clay Matthews because his first year or second

947
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: year they went, they won the Super Bowl, and every

948
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: year it's like, we'll be back, we'll be back, And

949
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: it's like, buddy, just because you taste it, like it's

950
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: so hard.

951
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: To get again.

952
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's almost better to be bad early because

953
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: then you let you know, like then you make the

954
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: playoffs and you're like, boys, we got a hold onto

955
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: this feeling. This is incredible.

956
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that's like when

957
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: when the Patriots were on their dynasty, it seemed like

958
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: they were always cutting guys that had a great year

959
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: of the year before, like a say, if Alexandeloni was

960
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: on that team the Patriots, they always knew when to

961
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: let the guy go, like they never held on to

962
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: somebody for a year too long. And I feel like

963
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: that's where the franchises make their next step, is like

964
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 3: getting that part right.

965
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe that's a clean tank.

966
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: It's good, that's a clean tank. It's just it's so

967
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: hard to follow something with Tom Brady's your quarterback because

968
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: he's elevating everybody around him, right, he's using I mean,

969
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: how many white guys they go through. There's so many.

970
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember a couple of.

971
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 5: Some of us think holding all makes us strong, but

972
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 5: sometimes it is letting go. That's just a busting quote.

973
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: You guys get on a Tuesday.

974
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, something nice. Yeah, rights, some of you might be

975
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: in a little conflict right now. There you go.

976
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: Take that you were going into an NFL transition in

977
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: Logan Paul.

978
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking to I was so obviously Logan

979
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: Paul is calling out no NFL. Uh, you know football

980
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: player can beat me in boxing. I'll put a million

981
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: dollars in the line. The name that kind of roast

982
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: the cream that rose to the top was Miles Garrett.

983
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: You put up the photos of Logan Paul, which, by

984
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: the way, guy's got a nice build on him. But

985
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: you put him next to a guy like Miles Garrett,

986
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: it's like, oh shit, right, it's a freak show. I

987
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: talked to a couple of people, so shout out Skipper Kelp.

988
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: He's like a he professional boxer. At one point, Yes,

989
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Skipp's awesome, and I'm like, can you break this down

990
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: for me a little bit? And he's telling me like,

991
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: unless guys know how to box, like do it enough

992
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: to where they understand the ins and outs. Did myself

993
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: a little lesson for the first time this weekend, fucking

994
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: so you kind of I don't know, shit, I realized, Oh,

995
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: he's yeah, yeah, he's like, unless these guys understand how

996
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: to move the body and when to punch and how

997
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: to react to other people, like doesn't matter like, I'm

998
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: one sixty five. I would be a guy that's like

999
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: two fifties ass if he doesn't know how to box,

1000
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: because it's just such a different game. So that kind

1001
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: of makes me lean on Logan Paul, who's got who

1002
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: boxes all the time, whether people want to respect him

1003
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: or not respecting the guy knows how to box. From

1004
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: a base level, it's like he's probably right. But then

1005
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: you look at Miles Gartting, You're like, he could figure

1006
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: it out pretty fast.

1007
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just see him like this, this is a

1008
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: massive alien, a massive three Yeah, but with the judges,

1009
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: you know, what was it? Three minute rounds?

1010
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: I think the issue too with Logan Paul coming out

1011
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: and saying that, and maybe I'm wrong, but I'd assume

1012
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: he's probably wouldn't pass a drug test that would get

1013
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: you eligible for boxing.

1014
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Damn put that on him.

1015
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: I mean, wwe, it's hard.

1016
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a fair assumption.

1017
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: You're, yeah, you're definitely doing things. We're not saying it's

1018
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: like a wrong thing.

1019
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: It's right and that.

1020
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: But that's what makes me mad when he does this thing.

1021
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, you go out, you say this, I'll

1022
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: fight anybody for a million dollars and all these people

1023
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: say like, hey, we're ready, and then it comes back

1024
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: to you and all of a sudden, he's a I.

1025
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: Mean, it just is what it is.

1026
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: He's a brilliant marketer, right promoter. And because it all

1027
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: stemmed from basically Tom Brady calling him a bitch and

1028
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: that he's on the pod talking about I could whoop

1029
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: anybody in the NFL, which you think about the boxing game,

1030
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 5: muscle Sten to even o Cho Sinko break it down too.

1031
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: He's like, you know, it's like the stamina is just

1032
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: a different game. He's like, I'd be surprised any NFL

1033
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: player if you're not just regularly consistently boxing. I do

1034
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 5: think there are probably guys out there who do it

1035
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: that are just that's not like their name is in

1036
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 5: anything in the NFL. But he was like, I'd be surprised.

1037
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 5: You kind of get it. You kind of burn out

1038
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: quick quick in a minute. It's just a different game.

1039
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: And Logan's obviously he's good at that level, like he

1040
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: can do a variety of things. Dude is extremely athletic,

1041
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: that's extremely It's been funny watching him and Brady go

1042
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: back and forth on the you know, on the on

1043
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 5: the macro promoting the flag football. It's like you're building

1044
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: it up for the flag football game and everything else

1045
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 5: and yeas to stem from it. You kind of knew,

1046
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: Like I was not surprised. I was bummed because Le'Veon

1047
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 5: Bell and a couple guys, even our boy Deon Dawkins

1048
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 5: are schloody Deon Dawkins.

1049
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Bloody Deon Dawkons kind of nice with the mits too.

1050
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: The little jab look good.

1051
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's saying he would step in.

1052
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: And but here's the thing is if that, let's say

1053
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: that like Deon Dawkins and Logan Paul were like, all right,

1054
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a fight the bills. Two seconds later,

1055
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: like you're not doing that fight? Yeah, not that will

1056
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: not happen. An active NFL player cannot do that.

1057
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 5: Saying similar to how the WW was with Logan Paul,

1058
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 5: and Logan might have known that was gonna be like again,

1059
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 5: Logan is very good at just again marketing promotion, like

1060
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 5: playing these games and bring a lot of attention to it,

1061
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: like creating a lot of that attention, And he could

1062
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: have known in the back of his mind, like even

1063
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 5: he had the call in the stream, I would not

1064
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 5: be surprised if he even set up that call, like

1065
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 5: him knowing already that he couldn't do it, and back,

1066
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 5: here's what I want you to do. I want you

1067
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: to call me while I'm on the stream and we'll

1068
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 5: kind of act, you know, we'll kind of have fun

1069
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 5: through it.

1070
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, this dude is in the w you touched it already.

1071
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: But like you can have your opinion about the Paul brothers,

1072
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: you can't say that they're not the some of the

1073
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: greatest marketers in the entire world.

1074
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: All road lead to Jake versus Logan Paul boxing match.

1075
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Jake, And I know, like we've kind

1076
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: of I talked to your year off about this on

1077
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: the phone the other day, Jared, I saw I'm at

1078
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: the airport when I'm just talking about Pokemon cards. But

1079
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: when I've like dubbed the Pokemon card thing, I went

1080
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: to these trading card places and they're like, Logan Paul

1081
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: is a huge reason why these all these cards are

1082
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: absolutely skyrocketing right now. Like he has like changed the game,

1083
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: but he's manipulating markets. That's how good of a marketer

1084
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: he is.

1085
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said that he now and he's buying these

1086
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: Pokemon cards. He does not talk about it for a

1087
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 6: couple of months or like a year leading into it,

1088
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 6: so the market will go down and then he can

1089
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 6: get a better price on it, and then he'll start

1090
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 6: talking about it when it's time to sell his card,

1091
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 6: which is like Gene sounds sounds like.

1092
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like there's not a lot of regulation

1093
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 5: on this game that he's.

1094
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Logan Paul and be like, hey, what cards you buy him?

1095
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: Just on the low because about it.

1096
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: Without knowing anything legal.

1097
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: Any any Pokemon people watching this, Poncho Pikachu's.

1098
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: It's like a different variation of a Pikachu.

1099
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, is Poncho Pikachu's Okay?

1100
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: I with Pikachu what he does, It's like, you know,

1101
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: he's a loyal dog.

1102
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: Hey, a loyal ass dog.

1103
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1104
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first movie, the First Pokemon? Of

1105
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: course I cried, Okay, you talk about Mew and mewtwo. Yeah,

1106
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: when Ash gets turned into stone and Pikachu starts just

1107
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: electricating him over and over again. Yeah, buddy, full tears, yeah,

1108
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: full tiers. Yeah, watching that Pikachu is one of one,

1109
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: one of one? AnyWho?

1110
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have loved to have seen it. Seemed

1111
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 5: like it was happening with Leveon Bell and Logan Paul.

1112
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: I would have loved to have seen it, just because

1113
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: I respect and appreciate that Le'Veon Bell was so just

1114
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 5: He's just about the action. Yeah, he's like he'll figure

1115
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: out whether or not. He's seeing it as an opportunity

1116
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: to get you know, you know wherever Le'Veon is with everything,

1117
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 5: it's like getting in, like being a part of the attention,

1118
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 5: like playing his game to get in there, like being

1119
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 5: vocal about it all, going back and forth with the

1120
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 5: beef on.

1121
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm here for the entertainment. Yeah, yeah, I'm here for

1122
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: the theatrics. I would love to see Le'Veon Bell. Big

1123
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: fan of Leveon Yeah, big fan of his work. Very

1124
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: patient runner, very patient.

1125
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 5: Le'Veon Bell is my first player of the game in Nebraska.

1126
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: Just just toss the player of the game, defensive player

1127
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 5: of the game. Oh nice, they only did my coming

1128
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 5: out party really, just you know.

1129
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Leon, he was a little too patient with you. A

1130
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: little too patient patient. Yeah, damn got his ass already.

1131
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: Did the beast.

1132
00:49:54,040 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 5: Mode break down, By the way, he messed up throwing

1133
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 5: that second clip in there. Whoever was whoever edited that

1134
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 5: clip throw me gas trying to chase old buddy on

1135
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 5: the sidelines.

1136
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: They added the audio like nobody was even around him.

1137
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, there's been a couple of things

1138
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: that slidered you in the last week or so. Right,

1139
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: they busted with the boys social team, they killed you

1140
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: on your forty time and then you and Clay had

1141
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: to break all that down last week. Clay, I think

1142
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: started strong. We have stretched on the phone about like, hey,

1143
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: you started strong with that because I've been kind of

1144
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: a hater of the forty time for a long time

1145
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: as well, and you kind of you folded, you folded

1146
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: right in front of Willis. You know, I had to

1147
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: let him have it.

1148
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: I had to get Dob on the phone.

1149
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I saw, but he doesn't know that like

1150
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: you Dobbs in your pocket.

1151
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dob kind of speaking that professional.

1152
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: Like Dobs my boy. I love Dob. But Dobb is

1153
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: never gonna speak ill about will Compton.

1154
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: Ever, Well, he wouldn't lie, He wouldn't lie.

1155
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: He would like he wouldn't lie, but he like you've

1156
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: been listening advocate a little bit.

1157
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't. You've been around that, Kate A little

1158
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: bit that would bust my balls if I needed my balls.

1159
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: You need to bring me, bring me back down there.

1160
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: The hardest thing is just the it's the pro day,

1161
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: and then is it laser? Is it not laser? And

1162
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: then Will right now is to say, oh, buddy, it

1163
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: was laser. I understand that.

1164
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: There's nothing else I need to explain. Man A.

1165
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: Why do people believe Bo Jackson but they don't believe

1166
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 3: Will Compton?

1167
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, man.

1168
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of film we can look

1169
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: at to debunk what you just said.

1170
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: A lot of like which film are we talking about?

1171
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: Like Will Will in the Will in the intro last

1172
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: week goes uh testing time, I was phenomenal on field time.

1173
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: It didn't translate as much. Was that a correct statement?

1174
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1175
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: So you say, and the laser short like he doesn't

1176
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: have the bill to beef that fast? Will doesn't have

1177
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: that fast? Now this day right here, you pretty quick

1178
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: on the side the side, Look at that six six

1179
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: that's kind of nice.

1180
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: Just like every everything you're Yeah, I wasn't that great

1181
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 5: in the broad I was in the eights.

1182
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: You guys, I don't know what it is.

1183
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: I I got short, but yeah, a little dwarfs.

1184
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 5: My torso. My torso is longer than my lower body

1185
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 5: and my arms are short. So that's where that that

1186
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 5: look comes from. And look, Dobby even said it to

1187
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 5: like listen, I was surprised, Like I do nothing but

1188
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 5: surprise people. At the end of the day, I'm known

1189
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 5: as an overachiever. Then that I'll have to take that.

1190
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: I can't look at the back. Yeah, I look like

1191
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 5: a specimen. It's the Excel short. What I think you thought?

1192
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 3: It was probably tough and in that year maybe, yeah,

1193
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: I guess.

1194
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean those things are below the knees.

1195
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 5: I like, even when I watched, I'm like, what the

1196
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: fun was?

1197
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Why did I think that was hot? And then even

1198
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: the arm action, like he's you like swimming, He's got

1199
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: his hand like this what he's running. That's drag right there,

1200
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: that's drag. That's not that.

1201
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: My life are two built.

1202
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: I gotta go on from the side, like, hey, hey,

1203
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: this freeze frame. Though at torso looked nice. Tors look nice.

1204
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: It is a long torso.

1205
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: But if someone showed me this way, what do you

1206
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: think This cat ran like four nine one freeze fream.

1207
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: When I sat with agents.

1208
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: Your arms look insanely small right now.

1209
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: It was projected that I would run a four eighty five.

1210
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Forty five.

1211
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: It was projected like when I sit down with the agents,

1212
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 5: when we're kind of.

1213
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Looks like your hips are turning towards the scores.

1214
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: Right now, they're trying to wrap me. Yeah yeah, what

1215
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 5: did they know?

1216
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 1: What did they not? And the boy got zero neck?

1217
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: Zero arm length and neck was nineteen and a half.

1218
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh bro, yeah I believe that.

1219
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: Now it's like who knows me and a half?

1220
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: Dude? My next neck?

1221
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1222
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 5: My traps and everything are gone.

1223
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: It's you know, hey, it's about to be spring were springing?

1224
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1225
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: You know what you need more than ever an account

1226
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: of bill of buddy, that's what you need right.

1227
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: Now, I do. I need some self discipline.

1228
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: It's time to get out of the solo workouts. Maybe

1229
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: find a trust me.

1230
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: I've gotten out of them. I haven't done that the workouts.

1231
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

1232
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: Oh wait ahead of you, I've scrapped the solo workouts.

1233
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: Uh. Busting came out with a top ten most difficult

1234
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: statements of play at What was your opinion of this?

1235
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: Dog shit?

1236
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a right comment.

1237
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 5: That I said, this is why people don't respect this,

1238
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 5: because we got idiots making graphics like this. I got

1239
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: a lot of attention, got a lot of engagement. We

1240
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 5: got some Rale quote tweeting it with the Gator because

1241
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 5: the swamps at the top.

1242
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I haven't been to the swamp.

1243
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Would Payton say about it? You guys said?

1244
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: Peyton did a video he made his own top ten

1245
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: stadiums and he yeah, he disagreed with with our list

1246
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: for sure.

1247
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: Disagree you ever one Nyland Nlan, I agree with Niland.

1248
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: I think LSU.

1249
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: College station in there.

1250
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: LSU's l s U at night is right there. Yeah,

1251
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: I think that was Penn State is loud.

1252
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 5: Pet has been to a lot of these spots where

1253
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: he's you know, he's got like I played.

1254
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: At Penn State.

1255
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 5: But it was literally the week the weekend of the

1256
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 5: San Dusky ship that came out, So it was a

1257
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: little weird.

1258
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a little awkward stadium.

1259
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a rock and.

1260
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: Stay Ohio State hands on, guys, like we played Ohio

1261
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 5: State at night?

1262
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: Like that was loud. I would like, just again, I didn't.

1263
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 5: I didn't play in neland but I've been in a

1264
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 5: couple of games, that old Miss game from years ago

1265
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: when Kiffin came, Like that stadium was crazy, Bro, the

1266
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 5: loudest I've listened to Husky Stadium.

1267
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: Husky Stadium a lot about Husky Stadium.

1268
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 5: Played there very loud because they got the bleachers.

1269
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: It echoes the Northwest on that text, so they understand

1270
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: how that sound there, you know Seattle.

1271
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 5: So who's oh that's Pats graphic. Yeah, Husky Stadium I

1272
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 5: think is loud. Oregon when we went there for Ohio

1273
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: State was loud.

1274
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is on like a consistent

1275
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's four. It's just the only

1276
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: issue that Oregon has is fifty five thousand.

1277
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, their buying is great though, like not very many s,

1278
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: not very many stadiums have students show up two hours

1279
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: before the game.

1280
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting there that students station was packed. That was sick.

1281
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 5: And again that could have been just because Ohio State

1282
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 5: was coming to town.

1283
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah I could have been because think about.

1284
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: It, when we were eating there that morning, like there

1285
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 5: was no traffic anywhere in the stadium.

1286
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. So what about

1287
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: y'all Top ten Toughest places to play.

1288
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 3: Or experience.

1289
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 4: I go five and five each.

1290
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna start just saying names. This isn't

1291
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 5: a particular order, but Neeland is my one. Ohio State's

1292
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: up there from playing at it, Kyle Field, Texas A

1293
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 5: and M I think is loud.

1294
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't as impressed with Kyle Field. I thought, like

1295
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: the chance, the pageantry, all that, like when we went

1296
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: to was it a m Notre Dame is what I'm

1297
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: thinking of, Like it was loud at times, but from

1298
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: a consistent loudness like Kneelan and Lsu are my top

1299
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: two that I've I've witnessed myself. Lud Yes, yeah, I

1300
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: would Husters. I wouldn't put in the top five, but

1301
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm they're probably six.

1302
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 5: Like it gets loud, I obviously have them.

1303
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: We went to Nebraska Colorado. I thought that was loud.

1304
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State is loud, Penn State is very loud. Oregon

1305
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I want to go to a game

1306
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: in the swamp so bad. Every year I think we

1307
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: talk about it fall to It's like we gotta get

1308
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: to the swamp. We gotta get to the swamp. They

1309
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: got up. Yeah, yeah, where else have we been?

1310
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 4: You went to Norman.

1311
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a Norman. I hear Norman's Electric.

1312
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: Norman Ish top ten horrest places to enjoy football game,

1313
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: that's gotta be it. That's got to be what it is.

1314
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: Probably one, probably one. As far as for me trying

1315
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: to enjoy a football game, No one would be my

1316
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: number one. Hardest place to enjoy a game. Tough place.

1317
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was at the South Carolina game.

1318
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Tennessee. I would they would definitely be up there.

1319
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: The amount of sandstorm that you all played was crazy

1320
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: that game, Like what three months off of an a

1321
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: cl surgery, just out there they're storming the field and

1322
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: some crutches like yeah all right, hell yeah boys.

1323
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: And this is nine. But Virginia Tech when we went

1324
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: to Virginia Tech was rocket nasty there.

1325
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1326
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, before you come out, you're like in the locker

1327
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 5: room and you hear just everything kind of rattling and shaking.

1328
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 5: You hear the vibrations everything. The fans go nuts, hopefully.

1329
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: James Franklin, Yeah, Notre Dame. When I played at Notre Dame,

1330
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it was my third year, and they had

1331
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: like this ladies singing some Irish song and they came out.

1332
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: It was green and gold and yellow on the lights.

1333
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: It was loud as shit.

1334
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: See, And that could be the difference of me thinking

1335
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 5: Kyle Field is really loud because we played there at

1336
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 5: night and I felt like it was rocking. But I

1337
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 5: feel you on these Oh you played that sidelin Yeah yeah, yeah,

1338
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 5: I'm sure, and it was loud, like witnessing being at

1339
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 5: Notre Dame games. To me, it just feels like a

1340
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 5: smaller Michigan to where it's really not that loud.

1341
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: Same architect that built Michigan. Yeah, yeah, now Michigan.

1342
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: Might be up there.

1343
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: Just from a intimidation standpoint. You walk in, you're like,

1344
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, that it's not that loud. That it's

1345
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: not your right, boys, it's not that loud. But you

1346
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: walk in, you're like, oh shit, it's about to be

1347
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: a bit of a deal today. So maybe your boots

1348
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: are shaking while the national anthem's playing. I don't know,

1349
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I think we White House Card.

1350
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: White House Card got it out.

1351
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do you feel about it? First

1352
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: initial thoughts? Just give me. I think it's a good card. Okay,

1353
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: you said everything you need to say by that one statement.

1354
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 5: I think it's a card. I think it's an awesome card.

1355
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 5: I think compared to where everything started with the White

1356
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 5: House hype coming out, yeah, I think it didn't come

1357
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: close to hitting what we thought the expectation might be.

1358
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 5: That's because but I think it's still a I think

1359
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 5: it's still like a good card.

1360
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: No John Jones, no Connor McGregor. I think everybody thought

1361
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: those are the two that were gonna be like kind

1362
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: of headlining this event.

1363
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 5: In Olympic wrestler Gabe Stevenson. Yeah, Gable Stevenson, he was

1364
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 5: gonna make he was apparently going to make his debut

1365
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 5: the White House on like the undercard, but it was

1366
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 5: just you know, stacked from top to bottom. Yeah, but

1367
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 5: it's still a good card.

1368
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell.

1369
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: You what wrong.

1370
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 5: And knowing that the Eliot tapoora and uh is it yeah,

1371
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 5: mikeah CHEFV. Knowing that that fight fell through, that would

1372
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 5: have been awesome.

1373
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: Buddy. His walkout him and and Alex Peyra's walkouts are

1374
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: the two that I got like the most goosebumps on. Yeah,

1375
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: he comes out in the Spaniard Were you were you

1376
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: with me? JP? For which one? For Soli era. That

1377
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: had to be Jack then, Yeah, Jack and Jared. When

1378
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: he came out and we're sitting there and he looks down,

1379
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: he looks at the guy and the red blazer that's

1380
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of there for security and gives him a wink,

1381
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: looks at Danny, just give him a head nog and

1382
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: the head nod, and then just murks ol of air

1383
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: in the first round like immediate master fan.

1384
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: Immediately it's gonna.

1385
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: Be a guy like an oar about him. We were like,

1386
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: this guy's a champion.

1387
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I'm telling if Pereira beats Gone, then he's

1388
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 3: the goat of UFC.

1389
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: History over John Jones.

1390
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean three titles, middleway, light heavyweight, heavyweight.

1391
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 5: Well, what's your feeling on the White House card?

1392
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: I think it's good. I think like a lot of

1393
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: people overreacted. They're like John Jones, Connor McGregor is not

1394
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: on it. Half of the UFC fans love to just

1395
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: hate on John Jones for half the year anyways, and

1396
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: then when he decides to fight, everybody.

1397
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: Wants to be his fan.

1398
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1399
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, y'all criticize this man all year, then

1400
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: you act like you want to see him fight.

1401
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: So bad.

1402
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor obviously would be hype, but to Pooria and Gaechee, like,

1403
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: they're at a way higher level than Connor McGregor right now. Yeah,

1404
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: And it's kind of like the nostalgia of McGregor fighting

1405
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: would be cool. But as far as quality, it's like

1406
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: all higher quality.

1407
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: I heard somebody talking about this, but it's like if

1408
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: the White White House Fighters already get you know, super

1409
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Bowl type level of views because of the location, what's happening,

1410
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the birth of America.

1411
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: All those historically, it's going to.

1412
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: Be a historically like they're on the South Line, they're

1413
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: gonna have five thousand seats, and then on a different lawn,

1414
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: I must be the North lawn or something like that,

1415
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: like eighty hell anes, they're gonna have eighty thousand people watching, right.

1416
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: Like a bad idea, honestly, but given the climate, for sure,

1417
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: but things in cool down. We're still a far away,

1418
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: far enough away to maybe things are chill by that

1419
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: I will be doing my best to be there.

1420
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might get there. Yeah.

1421
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1422
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just smart, which is smart.

1423
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 8: Off topic, Alec Pierce, staying with the Colts four years,

1424
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 8: one hundred and twelve.

1425
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: Sixty Congratulators say that one hundred.

1426
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: And sixty million dollars four years.

1427
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: Congratulations, bad years.

1428
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 1: You see.

1429
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 5: McDuffie got a huge deal with the Rams too. He

1430
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 5: got like a four year was it over one hundred

1431
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 5: of the trade? Yeah from uh, can't city trade him.

1432
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 8: People talk about how the corners with the Chiefs go

1433
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 8: basically to develop and then they go somewhere else and

1434
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 8: just get their bag. Yeah, And I feel like he's

1435
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 8: just another when.

1436
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 5: A lot of guys do a free agency, Like you

1437
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 5: want to stay with the team forever, but if you

1438
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 5: feel like you're getting low ball from the team or

1439
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 5: you understand what your market could be, it's like, dude,

1440
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 5: you only get one shot to go out there and

1441
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 5: maximize your financial earnings.

1442
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: And it's different. Well yeah, but the chief the Chiefs

1443
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: and the Patriots. When Tom was at the Patriots, it

1444
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: was the same thing. Like they would get guys in,

1445
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: develop them, make them great, and then be like, hey,

1446
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: you have to take a home discount because we have Patrick

1447
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Tom Brady. They're like, well, I'm not going

1448
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: to do that, and they go and head off and

1449
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: get paid.

1450
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 5: In the Yeah, but it was I was just gonna

1451
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 5: say the Rams always go from the standpoint of just

1452
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 5: they just trade their draft captain.

1453
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I kind of like. I like that a lot.

1454
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: You got mcveigh's just stuff.

1455
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1456
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: We got to get him on the bus. We were

1457
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: we talking about bus.

1458
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the White House card, Yeah, that's gonna be electric.

1459
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 5: I think I feel like it's you know, it's it's

1460
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: the Internet. So they're obviously to overreact. And when you're

1461
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 5: thinking John Jones, Condor McGregor, who else you elluded, Oh,

1462
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 5: when Malcolm Jeff or Micah Jeff falls through. It's like

1463
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 5: when you feel like all these names are going to

1464
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 5: be on it and they're not on it, you're like, oh.

1465
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: This sucks. You told us this is the one we wanted.

1466
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, we all want the greatest part.

1467
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: Go back to what I said was like, you have

1468
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: this massive fight on the White House, which regardless is

1469
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna get massive views. The move would be to the

1470
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. That's when you have the McGregor

1471
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: on or the jah Jones. If you're going to have

1472
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: those guys enter the UFC, because now you're double dipping

1473
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: on your view count.

1474
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what Conda McGregor's out there, you know, when

1475
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 5: he was on Chale sonin Yeah Chill Son. When he's

1476
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 5: on his podcast talking through it, he's like, I'm never

1477
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 5: on the two hundred or three hundred or the sphear

1478
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: fight like you see me on like two oh one,

1479
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: three oh one, because those cards are gonna be huge

1480
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 5: and get the viewership and get the buys that they're

1481
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 5: going to get. You put me on like a two

1482
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 5: on one, three on one, because you're still going to

1483
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: double dip. You're still going to like at the end

1484
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: of the day, we're all cattle. Yeah, he's I mean,

1485
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 5: he's not wrong, but that's that's every sport. Yeah, that's

1486
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 5: every sport. You're a number or this or that. Yeah,

1487
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 5: Max Crosby's cattle, cattle, cattle, clean clean, Max Crosby Wago

1488
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 5: beef wag be roam in the field.

1489
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: For those of you.

1490
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: That weren't savvy to this, we had ourselves in merch competition.

1491
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 2: Yes, some housekeeping.

1492
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: Housekeeping fans were given the opportunity to create their own

1493
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: merch send it into busting with the boys. The boys

1494
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: then said, okay, these are our top ten favorite, top

1495
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: five favorites put it out there, and then whoever sold

1496
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 1: the most merch will get how much money will come.

1497
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 5: To three thousand dollars for the first place.

1498
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: Thousand dollars for first place. In this envelope, This true

1499
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: classic envelope is the winner of the Merch contest.

1500
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: Top three, right, we're doing the top three. Sure, I

1501
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: believe so. I did not see what Germ handed y'all,

1502
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: but I bet he put top three.

1503
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: I bet he put top three. First place.

1504
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 5: From the amount of bias he has three thousand and

1505
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 5: second place, two thousand and third place one thousand dollars.

1506
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 5: To the fans who created this merch.

1507
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hand you that envelope. You can do the honors.

1508
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: Hey, here we go. See.

1509
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you got all three? Got all three?

1510
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 5: I just want to know if you open up pretty fast, okay.

1511
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 5: Coming in third place of the Merch design contest is

1512
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 5: the Tunnel of KOs shirt.

1513
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Tunnel of KOs.

1514
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 5: One thousand dollars to that creator. Uh second place, the

1515
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 5: Magic school Bus shirt.

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01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: That one went hard. It was a big fan of

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01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: that one.

1518
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 5: In the first place drum roll is the PT six

1519
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: No One Is Coming to Save You shirt. Yeah, that

1520
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 5: designer will be getting three thousand dollars.

1521
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: We'll have our people get with your people.

1522
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll figure it out. Jeremy Clump, you have to

1523
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: figure that out. Yeah. If it takes a long time,

1524
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: just know Will Comms and I did nothing. It's all

1525
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: on Clump.

1526
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: That's all four Yeah.

1527
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tag too.

1528
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 5: If you're trying to talk to somebody directly, it's the

1529
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 5: nutty professor profile Jeremy Clump.

1530
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is correct.

1531
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 5: This is Jeremy Clump. That's the guy who kind of

1532
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 5: handles our stuff.

1533
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? You boys? We got anything else?

1534
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: Luke Combs was phenomenal, amazing forgot to say at the.

1535
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 5: Top, Luke Combs. This interview with Luke Combs phenomenon.

1536
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: No, if you're an Appalachia State fan, you're gonna love

1537
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: this one.

1538
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Brandon Spike story.

1539
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 5: We have to get Brandon Spikes on the bus YEP.

1540
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: That must be happening soon. Also a tunnel of chaos

1541
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: of blog.

1542
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 5: When does that come out?

1543
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Matt Malone at Matt Malone needs to come out in

1544
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: the next forty eight hours.

1545
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 5: So Matt Malone is the one editing. I know he

1546
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 5: was he was out there doing all the content.

1547
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: He's the one editing.

1548
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's ending along with the boys.

1549
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: He said that a lot of fells are gona help

1550
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: him out. Yeah, kind of his first get him right,

1551
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: his first swing at it. A lot of fun content

1552
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: in there, a lot of this is a this is

1553
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: a different one too. Well. Yeah, got scary for a second,

1554
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: got scary. I'll tell you. I'll say this. I'll say this.

1555
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: My credit line at Red Rock is five hundred thousand dollars.

1556
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: At one point, I was one better way from being

1557
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: maxed out of my credit line. The blog will be

1558
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: out forty eight hours.

1559
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: How was Matt's vibe? Like, what was the vibe?

1560
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: That was good? Nervous energy, like you could just tell

1561
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: he really wanted to do well. He had the he

1562
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: had the rookie mentality, like anything I can do, I'm

1563
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: going to do. There was a few times where in

1564
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: my brain I'm like, hey, did you grab his Like No,

1565
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm thinking Jack, I should have told you Jack.

1566
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: Jack would have known to do that, Jared would have

1567
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: known to do that because he hasn't been around it

1568
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: a few times. But I think overall, the boy crushed it.

1569
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: I think he had his camera out. He's have to

1570
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: go through a lot of stuff.

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01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, like twelve hours total.

1572
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: Buddy, he was. I'm like, hey, you got a film

1573
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: this part. We're kind of just walking somewhere right now,

1574
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: like it was, but hey, he was on it. He

1575
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: like truly, you could tell that Matt wanted, like more

1576
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: than anything, wants to do well and that is the

1577
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: biggest thing. So it's almost like these clips what you're

1578
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 1: about to put out, everything, everything, everything, like this is

1579
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: your judgment day essentially, like can you take the next step?

1580
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: Can you make a bluck?

1581
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: You got your.

1582
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 5: Phono with Mark Zuckerberg, but can you so this Mark

1583
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 5: Zuckerberg picture?

1584
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 1: I went up, who was I talking to before? Hunter Campbell?

1585
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: Hunter Campbell?

1586
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: Dude, the fucking man rapp him up? Uh, we were

1587
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: talking for a second, turn around and Matt's on Zuck,

1588
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: Hey can I get a photo real quick? Just real fast?

1589
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: Like I walked past him and he came. He goes,

1590
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: I had to get it. I had to get that one. Yeah, whatever,

1591
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do. Yeah.

1592
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 5: I want to say, that's so funny that you tell

1593
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: that story, because I'm overhearing conversation on their side of

1594
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 5: the shop, and I just hear Matt. I think I

1595
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 5: heard like Derek asking like you did you feel like

1596
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 5: were you getting starstruking? No, I don't really get starstruck

1597
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 5: by guys like that.

1598
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? Yeah?

1599
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 5: Like Tom Brady, Like Tom was cool to me, but

1600
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, let's talk business. And I just yelled from

1601
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 5: the shooter, Matt, shut the fuck up.

1602
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: Hey, Tom was awesome. Tom was talking to Dan that

1603
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: turns around. He said, well he dat me up. What's

1604
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: up Taylor? I was like, oh shit, you remember you

1605
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 1: remember the cross?

1606
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 2: What's up?

1607
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: Shit? Talked about broadcasting, talked about a bunch of stuff, dude,

1608
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: and I had. I was like, bro, we got to

1609
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: get you on Bust with the Boys. And I goes,

1610
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: I would love to come on your show.

1611
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: So we need him.

1612
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's on the clock, by the way. More handsome

1613
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: in person, yea, more handsome in person. Boys, he's got

1614
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: the sauce. He's got the sauce. He was wearing these

1615
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: glasses and I was just like, buddy, I get it.

1616
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I understand.

1617
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 5: You should have hit him with Matt Fillman from a

1618
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 5: couple of rows back, and you just do the leaning

1619
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 5: where you put your hand on his back and whisper

1620
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 5: up in his ear like that one gal did what's

1621
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 5: her name?

1622
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't have enough time to asking about it.

1623
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: Save it for the Electric.

1624
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: He's got to come on, he's got to come on.

1625
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the go michid Man. Yeah, gotta get

1626
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: him on.

1627
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 5: Ask him about the raider stuff, like, just point blank,

1628
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: are you sucking it up in there?

1629
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: Bro?

1630
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: Bro? Yeah? Give him his side of the story. You

1631
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: hate Max Crosby? Yeah, what's the.

1632
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: Why'd you do that?

1633
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: Don't you guys be boys? Yeah?

1634
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 5: Hell an episode Luke Combs Electric starts off with CT

1635
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 5: literally and we dive into a lot of fun. You

1636
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 5: guys are gonna enjoy it. As always, subscribe, follow long,

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Speaker 2: can you tell me that?

1642
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Speaker 1: Out in the beginning, Hey, two half braids making a

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Speaker 1: full Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 5: Fellas we interrupt this episode because we are presented by

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Speaker 5: Jim Beam. Listen, boys, as you all know, we have

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Speaker 1: Time of the year.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Football is over.

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Speaker 5: Even though we got NFL free agency today. What are

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Speaker 5: we supposed to do on Sunday or Monday or Thursday?

1651
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 5: So much time, so little funny?

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Speaker 1: Oh easy. Now, just because football is over, the hang

1653
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have to stop, because, believe it or not, there's

1654
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: still a ton of stuff to get excited for. What

1655
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Speaker 1: we're talking basketball, hockey, tennis, baseball, and the big soccer

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Speaker 5: Ah, I get it. It's like you're taking the limit

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Speaker 5: of football being over and turned it in a lemonade correction.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the lemon of football being over and turning

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Speaker 1: into Jim beam and lemonade.

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Speaker 5: You could not be more right, because Jim beam and

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Speaker 1: What you need.

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Speaker 5: Wait, no matter what you and your boys are watching,

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Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, no matter what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, definitely a real is kind of wild because

1689
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: if you think about it what happened or rolling right now.

1690
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: I kind of love the idea of believing that concussions

1691
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: don't exist. Like I am like I've.

1692
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: We're starting off.

1693
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: This is where my brain is. You don't have to

1694
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: coasent on any of this.

1695
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,839
Speaker 2: I think science is fake. Is also.

1696
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: Just the thought process of ignorance is bliss. Like think

1697
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: about in high school when you're like starting to train,

1698
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: you're learning about lifting, You're learning about like oh if

1699
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: I eat more protein, I'll get bigger, stronger, faster, and

1700
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: then you go to ChFC. Also science. So basically what

1701
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying is there's levels to science in my brain,

1702
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: Like there's like how far into science do I want

1703
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: to get before I'm like that's the cutoff. That's it.

1704
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm done. Because if I just think if I was

1705
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: still living in the the high school world of like

1706
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,759
Speaker 1: KFC McDonald's subway, I'd be kind of living nice.

1707
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like in your mind that would like

1708
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 2: good food.

1709
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, thinking about gluten micro plastics e MF

1710
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: is the San Francisco forty nine ers facility? Is it

1711
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: plagued with like five G whatever that poem is, Yeah,

1712
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: And it's like how much just do you want to

1713
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: cause the life. So that brings me back to concussions,

1714
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, hey, maybe if a player thinks

1715
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: they don't exist, that's amazing. It's like, yeah, Poko was

1716
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: talking about it.

1717
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 5: The psychopath in you as a football player listens to that,

1718
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 5: and you're like, he gets it. This guy gets yep,

1719
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 5: just the world, Yeah, just the world, team guy, team guy,

1720
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 5: glue guy.

1721
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1722
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: It's like you're having an argument on the playground and

1723
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: Pookinakul hits you with concussions don't exist, and him like

1724
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: giving that Kurtzignetti, Yeah, you you're on it, brother, Well

1725
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: you figured out the game.

1726
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 5: Or like Pooko would it would be a dude, like

1727
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 5: if your teammate goes down and he's concussed and they're

1728
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 5: kind of treating him and looking at him. If Pooka

1729
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 5: were to say to me, hey, dude, concussions don't exist.

1730
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 5: We're on the same page.

1731
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: We run this and then quietly talked about that individual,

1732
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't that hard of me. Yeah, I mean, you

1733
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: remember playing high school ball, like guys would get hurt

1734
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: and you kind of get with your boys. But is

1735
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: he really hurt right real?

1736
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, definitely, but then you realize quickly

1737
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: that it was You're like, yeah, that was probably real.

1738
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: You know, my shoulder.

1739
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: Sucks now, like you didn't even play good.

1740
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't even good and I'm still injured from the Yeah,

1741
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: so I'd say some of it, you know, concussions. We'll

1742
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: see Jerry still.

1743
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,520
Speaker 1: Out, my senior, Jerry is still at a concussions.

1744
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: We don't know, we can we can't be too sure.

1745
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 2: We can't be because we're not scientist or no, yeah,

1746
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 2: someone is certainly sure of it.

1747
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: I have a general studies degree. I am not equipped

1748
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: to tell people whether or not concussions.

1749
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't even have a degree, dude, boom. So basically

1750
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: the same we got the same thing.

1751
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: So if anything comes out of it's Luke Combs doesn't

1752
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 1: believe in concussions. Luke Combs doesn't mean you need education.

1753
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 1: You don't need an education to be successful in life.

1754
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: I would say that's scientifically proven that you don't mean

1755
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: that one is scientifically You don't necessarily come.

1756
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 5: Out and just say you're going to donate your brain

1757
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 5: after you go to see if you have any form

1758
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 5: of CT.

1759
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: And they're like, man, this guy was a real idiot.

1760
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: How did he make it? You know? Yeah, well guess

1761
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: we'll never know.

1762
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 5: Before just an article these guys laughing about brain damage. Yeah,

1763
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 5: certain yeah, certainly, that's just guys having fun.

1764
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1765
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: But to keep it on savagery of football. Well, we

1766
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: met for the first time. It was a tight Ends

1767
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: and friends. Am I correct saying that tight you tighten you?

1768
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: But they did ten. Yeah, it was called tight Ends

1769
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: and where they did all the music stuff. You came in.

1770
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: It was like three bros hanging out that I haven't

1771
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: seen each other in a long time. Yes, and you

1772
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: started going through football growing up and playing against Brandon Spikes.

1773
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: Well playing that's a bit of an overstatement, okay, all right,

1774
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: watching What kind of motor did you have when you

1775
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: were in high school? Not one.

1776
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: Cylinder out there?

1777
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like I was like a like a

1778
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: nice like subcompact. Okay, you know, an oversized body, you know,

1779
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: the motor of a Kia, the body of like a

1780
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 2: larger minivan. You know, you were the dude who you

1781
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: just wanted to go stand by during practice and hear

1782
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: some good jokes. I literally had a coach that my

1783
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 2: nickname was jokes. Was my nicknames probably not the nickname

1784
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: you want on the football team, no doubt. Yeah. My

1785
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: nickname wasn't like blade. You know that's indicative of what

1786
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: we'll stand by. Jokes. You're like, yeah, you're gonna struggle

1787
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 2: making this football team. Yeah, yeah, yeah I did. I

1788
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: did struggle to make the team. But I did, you know,

1789
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: I was there. It was around what was the high school. Yeah,

1790
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 2: walk us through some high school football experience. In high

1791
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: school football stories, a lot of I was on the

1792
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: ship list a lot that was the I had a

1793
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 2: coach named Keyes Hour. He played on the Miami Dolphins

1794
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: back in the day. It was a defensive end and

1795
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: he was like probably he might have been in his

1796
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: seventies then, and he was like, I mean he was

1797
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 2: like spitting dip spit on your hands, like when you

1798
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: were down in the you know what I mean. Like

1799
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: he was that guy like he was there was no concussions, definitely.

1800
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 9: Guy.

1801
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeahs were certainly not real to Key's Hour. Awesome guy though.

1802
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: But I would always I was singing a lot in

1803
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: high school too, man, So I would miss like I

1804
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: would miss practice for like chorus ship and the next

1805
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: day I would come back, He's like, well, Combs, you're

1806
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: on my ship list. And he would just tell me that.

1807
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 2: He would just tell me that, and I was like, well, okay,

1808
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: I could I could see that when he say stuff

1809
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: like just mad that, hey, you're missing practice required basically. Yeah. Yeah,

1810
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 2: there was no uh, there wasn't any slurs flying around,

1811
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: but it was close. You know, we alreded the line

1812
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: of some slurs flying around. I would imagine. Now you

1813
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: sit there and you're like, I really proved that motherfucker wrong. Yeah.

1814
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: He's a nice guy though. I mean at the time,

1815
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: I can understand it, you know what I mean, He's

1816
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 2: you're trying to shape young men. Yeah, you know what

1817
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: I mean. Like he probably thinks I'm cool now though, yeah,

1818
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: you know, but I wasn't. I wasn't very cool back then.

1819
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: For sure. Super weak guy for my size relative to

1820
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: my size. So that was always great. That always helped

1821
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: a lot and practice. You know, it wasn't exactly if

1822
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: you could tell wasn't really dialed into the weight room

1823
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't my

1824
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 2: happy places double seven, okay, And I was hoping we

1825
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 2: would get into this on the way over here, because

1826
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: I was thinking about I should have played O line.

1827
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: It was my destiny.

1828
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1829
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: Obviously don't have the size to be in the league

1830
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination, but I think I

1831
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: would have been good at it. But I was obsessed

1832
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 2: with playing D line because I just wanted to tackle people.

1833
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: That was like, I didn't want to have any like

1834
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: rules and regulations on how to hit someone.

1835
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: Fundamentals were beneath you.

1836
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: I just wanted to hit people. That was. That was.

1837
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: It was a good way of doing that, you know.

1838
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: But I remember we go through my entire high school

1839
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: career of my co coaches trying to talk me into

1840
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: playing offensive line, and I was like, I'm not doing this,

1841
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: not aggressive enough for me, even though I wasn't aggressive

1842
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: at all. Really in my mind, I was a highly

1843
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: I did tell you. I'm like, bro, listen, you can't

1844
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: put a leash on a on a rabbit dog.

1845
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: Dude.

1846
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I'm gonna get I'm getting somebody on this,

1847
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: you know, Like I'm running down the wide receiver screen

1848
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: from the nose guard position. In my mind, you know,

1849
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: So I remember we have this big like it's the

1850
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: last week of like my senior year, We're just like

1851
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: getting ready to go into the playoffs, and we had

1852
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: an entire teams like we're gonna do an entire team

1853
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: like one on one Oklahoma tournament, like O line, D line,

1854
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: but everybody on the team, every position like and I

1855
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: ended up winning the whole thing, and my coaches were

1856
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: so pissed at the end, and they were like, you,

1857
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: son of a bitch, like you should have played offensive line.

1858
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: I told you this whole time, We told you to

1859
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: play offensive wine. And I was like, yeah, yeah, that's

1860
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: one of my bigger regrets. I wish I would have

1861
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: played offensive line, to be quite honest, because now it's

1862
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: like an art form now. I'm like, damn, yeah, I

1863
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: just didn't have the vision then, man, And not that

1864
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: it would have mattered. I just would have I'd be

1865
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: in the same place now, just with more concussions that

1866
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: would be.

1867
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 3: More.

1868
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: When you were in high school, were you as logical

1869
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: as you are sitting here being like this was a

1870
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: dead end road for me, or were you even in

1871
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: high school, like maybe I could be the one.

1872
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: I didn't have. I didn't have any any delusions of

1873
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: like ending up where I'm at now, or like being

1874
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: a football player or anything. I was just like, I'm

1875
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: gonna be just like some boring ass dude, probably, which

1876
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: was like because everybody kind of just was you know,

1877
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just thought that's how the world

1878
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: worked at yeah point, Like my parents, you know, my

1879
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: dad was a maintenance man, my mom worked at the bank.

1880
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 2: You know, like nobody's a superstar onmy brothers or sisters.

1881
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm just well, I guess you just

1882
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 2: you go to school and then you go to college,

1883
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 2: and then you get a job, and then you hate

1884
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 2: that for thirty years or so, and then you're good.

1885
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: You know. It's kind of what I thought happened. I

1886
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: don't know, it's like, I mean, not that my parents

1887
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: didn't push me to do whatever I want wanted, you know,

1888
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: and like chase my dreams or whatever. But I didn't

1889
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: really even have any dreams at that time other than

1890
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: just like to keep the party going. You know, let's

1891
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: just go to college to just because that's what you do. Yeah,

1892
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't like, man, i'd be like a

1893
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: pipe welder, you know. I didn't have like this thing.

1894
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I wanted to do.

1895
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't have a y, you didn't have a

1896
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: like this I want to go in life.

1897
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: No, it's just like how do I get women to

1898
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: not think that I'm three hundred pounds? You know what

1899
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,959
Speaker 2: I mean? Winter helped, you know what I mean, large coats,

1900
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: things of that nature were very helpful in that endeavor.

1901
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: There's like those big north faced jackets mean you can

1902
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: hide a lot.

1903
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, end state dude winters longer there, Yeah, a lot

1904
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: more winter time. And in Boone, North Carolina.

1905
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: When you guys are looking for where they're going to

1906
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: go to college, they're thinking about best education.

1907
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: You're thinking where can I I'm thinking where can I hide?

1908
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: This is crazy?

1909
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Were the high school team? Yeah, he was three years

1910
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: younger than me, so his freshman year was my senior year,

1911
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: and he was like the emergency quarterback, so he like

1912
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: started for the JB team, but he would dress on Fridays.

1913
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: What was he like in high school?

1914
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean he wasn't as as like outlandish as he

1915
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: is now, and a good I mean that in a

1916
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: good way, you know what I mean. Like he's great.

1917
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean I love Caleb. He's so funny and he

1918
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 2: was funny then, but he was more like clean cut,

1919
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: like more kind of like stereotypical, like high school quarterback

1920
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: guy at that time, you know what I mean. He

1921
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: wasn't like outwardly being as funny as he is now.

1922
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: But I mean some of that we I mean, we

1923
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time hanging out. I played as

1924
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: much as he did, which was not so we spent

1925
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: a lot of time together on the sidelines. We did

1926
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 2: sling the rock. Yeah he could throw, for sure, but

1927
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: at that time, you're like this, it probably stinks, dude.

1928
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: You don't know. I don't know, like you know, I mean,

1929
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: I was, and I'm like, this guy must be as

1930
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: good as me, which is not good, you know. And

1931
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: then he goes on to winnes State championship and all

1932
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: that stuff after I'm gone. But no, so he Chased

1933
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: was four years older than me, so he graduated when

1934
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: I was in eighth grade. But he was the guy

1935
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: they brought down to the middle school and they were like,

1936
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: look this fucking guy. Pretty good looking, dude, right, you

1937
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 2: could be this guy if you played football. He was

1938
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: like the like he was like the marketing tool to

1939
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: get me to get concussions for nothing. Sacrifice your mind

1940
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 2: for the betterment of the program. You know, you'll get

1941
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing for it. And then Ben Johnson, Dude, Ben

1942
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Johnson Acey Rends High school played with Chase Rice. They're

1943
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: on the same team head coach of the Bears. Ben

1944
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: was the quarterback Chase.

1945
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: Where are we from town?

1946
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 2: It's near like a nuclear it's Asheville, North Carolina. Rico

1947
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: Dowdell also went to our high school. No ship, yeah,

1948
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: kind of.

1949
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 9: I think Rico is around his third year, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1950
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 9: you know, but I think Rico is probably I'm not

1951
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 9: exactly sure what year he graduated, but I would imagine

1952
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 9: him and Caleb were around each other at least at

1953
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 9: the same time.

1954
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that they were. I don't think they

1955
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: were on the same team, but I think Rico would

1956
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: have maybe been like a freshman. Cable was a senior

1957
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: or just graduated somewhere in that neighborhood. So star power

1958
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: coming out of that area, weirdly enough, Yeah, and all

1959
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: like in a really small window of time, you know,

1960
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 2: because we didn't have anybody cool what everyone in our

1961
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: high school? Ever, how how far away was Brandon Spikes

1962
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: that there was probably like an hour and a half away,

1963
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: like down the mountain from what. We didn't play them regularly.

1964
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: We played them in the playoffs one time, so you

1965
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: got to waitness that man on the field. Yeah, it

1966
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: was terrifying. He looked as old as he does now

1967
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: at eighteen or allegedly eighteen at the time, like full beard,

1968
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: full dreads. Dude, Like it's terrifying. He walks out and

1969
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, that guy's like, that guy's on the team,

1970
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: got it. Yeah, it's not the strength, cool man, I'm

1971
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: glad that that guy's playing against us.

1972
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 5: How are your coaches trying to fire you up when

1973
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 5: playing against a Specsmen, they weren't.

1974
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: Trying to fire me up. I'm telling you that they

1975
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: were not concerned about what I had going on. They

1976
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: were I think aware of like I mean at that time,

1977
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: he was already committed to Florida at that time, and

1978
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 2: you know, he's like a five star linebacker at that time.

1979
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 2: And for good reason, you know, because you're thinking this

1980
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: whole build up, you're doing the whole week of oh,

1981
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: we're playing this guy, this and that. That was a

1982
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: great team. They're always a good team. Shelby's I think

1983
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 2: he was on Shelby Crest. There's two high schools from there,

1984
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: both always really good. And he comes out and we

1985
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: had a we had a really good running back that year,

1986
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: and he was I think he was going to Western

1987
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: Carolina like and so we're like, this guy's like the

1988
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: best guy ever. Dude, he's the best running back ever.

1989
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 2: And so our coach is like, we're running fucking straight

1990
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 2: at this dude, first play and set the tone.

1991
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: The boys juiced up.

1992
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Set the tone, dude, let's physical, let's go right. That's

1993
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: not scurting around it, you know what I mean? And boy,

1994
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: did that guy that went horribly wrong and set did

1995
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: set the tone for the game, but not in the

1996
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,480
Speaker 2: way that we had hoped. He's i mean, absolutely annihilated

1997
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: our running back who also had dreads. He gets down

1998
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: over top of him after destroying him for like a

1999
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: two yard loss. After he's blown the full back up.

2000
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: We're running power high at this time. Full back folded,

2001
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: piece of paper gone, running back folded, gets over top

2002
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 2: of him, grabs a dreadlock and rips it out of

2003
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: his head from his helmet and wraps it around his

2004
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: wrist like a bracelet. And where's it. The rest of

2005
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: the game and that was the end of the game.

2006
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: The game was over at that point.

2007
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: Straight up, Like did he look over at the side,

2008
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: did he do anything with it?

2009
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Like he looked over at this online and

2010
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: was like, it's gonna be a long game, coach to

2011
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: our head coach, to the head coach of our team,

2012
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: and it was yeah, it was. It was gnarmally, dude.

2013
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, there's levels to this, this is

2014
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 2: a whole and I'm already bulowed just kind of the

2015
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: base level, like high school football in general. And then

2016
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: that happened and I was like, this guy could be

2017
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL like tomorrow if you want.

2018
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: This game.

2019
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it was not good, had to be.

2020
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: You could probably google it. I would imagine it's somewhere

2021
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: Shelby Crest versus Ac Rentals High School. This would have

2022
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 2: been like two thousand and six, probably playoffs.

2023
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Is this your senior year?

2024
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: No, this is my sophomore year. Sophomore So I'm also

2025
01:29:54,600 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: watching this as a frail young child. Yeah, do I

2026
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: really want it? Just something around you're open, the boys

2027
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: out there, stay healthy. You can't have because at the time, dude,

2028
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm on like JV and so I'm like you, thank Gosh, Like,

2029
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 2: no chance I'm getting in, even though there wasn't anyways,

2030
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: but even though I would have been on the team,

2031
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 2: there was no chance I was getting in. But I'm

2032
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: really good. Sixty five to fifteen, dude, sixty five to fifteen. Yeah,

2033
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: there you go. That's the game. Yeah, it was god man, Yep,

2034
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: that's the one. And dude, we were we were a

2035
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: good team. Man, we were good. We were not like

2036
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: a bad team. You sure, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. They

2037
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: were there. I mean he was, bro, it's Brandon Spikes.

2038
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Was there other guys you looked out there? You're like,

2039
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: oh shit? Or was it really just one? Like he

2040
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: was the first you have the bus he was.

2041
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was the guy. You come out and

2042
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 2: you're like, this guy doesn't even he looks like a man,

2043
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: like a man like someone's dad, Like that's what he

2044
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 2: looked like in high school. That guy came out, dude,

2045
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, we don't have any guys that

2046
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 2: are like play that at all, dude, any like guys

2047
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: that are six five and like three twenty solid muscle.

2048
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: You know, we saw him, so we did. We did

2049
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: the sec championship and he was like part of like

2050
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: one of the commercial breaks in the second quarter or

2051
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: something like that, and Will asked him about this exact story,

2052
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: and he essentially looks and thinks back, He's like, man,

2053
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: that's back when I was first starting to take bodies.

2054
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember this motherfucker has killed because legit kill

2055
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: people on the football field.

2056
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 5: He was saying, I took a lot of bodies. Couldn't

2057
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 5: quite put it together. But maybe when he hears this,

2058
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 5: he'll be coming on.

2059
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Like I did see a guy cowering in fear, and

2060
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: that was me.

2061
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the farthest part of the sideline could possibly.

2062
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Be like pussy. So I got an even better story

2063
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: about him from the year before because he was like,

2064
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 2: he's famous in the whole state at this point, like

2065
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 2: even his junior year, it's like, this kid's a he's

2066
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 2: a freak due like he's gonna be a real talent.

2067
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: And he was. So that year, his senior year, they

2068
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 2: had moved up to four A. We were a four

2069
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: A school.

2070
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah yeah, yeah, it's a high school

2071
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: football player.

2072
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, yep. It is. So it's three. So

2073
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: the year before they're three A team and they play

2074
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 2: one of our rival high schools who was a three

2075
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: A school, and my buddy Michael was on the sideline

2076
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: and he's like, the spice is in the game. It's

2077
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: another playoff game, and he's not on the field. So

2078
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 2: he's not like he's not on the team. He's just

2079
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: a fan and he's like talking shit. Oh, he's like

2080
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 2: front row with the thing. He's like, you suck, dude.

2081
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: He's like giving him the ship over. The whole thing's like,

2082
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if he catches an interception or something happens,

2083
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: runs over to the sideline to my buddy and was like,

2084
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: I'll fucking kill you. And then he was just like

2085
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 2: he said, he was just like oh god, and he

2086
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 2: was like he would have he would have killed me.

2087
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, but yeahdude, he was he was an animal,

2088
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: say the least.

2089
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2090
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even met the guy and he's had that

2091
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 2: great of an impressional Yeah. Check this out, dude. Yeah,

2092
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: so that's wild, dude in that photo. Dude, look at

2093
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: that is That's that's parody right there. Okay, you know

2094
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: that is you can really put it into perspective, dude,

2095
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't want to play off ins one. Now

2096
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 2: that I think about it, he was a super nice dude.

2097
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: He was incredibly nice to us.

2098
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 2: He seems like he would be a great guy. He

2099
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 2: just a dog. Yeah, got the switch. No, turn it on,

2100
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 2: turn it off.

2101
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: And he was part of those like those Tebow years

2102
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: in Florida. I was just like, my god.

2103
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: There was actual murders happening. Yeah, yeah, like on and off.

2104
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah apparently. Yeah, once again, just like to clarify, Yeah, yeah,

2105
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 2: we were talking to you. He was a gouge and Reno.

2106
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: He got the eyes out you can find remember that

2107
01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: Florida Georgia game, like, and it was like it wasn't

2108
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: like maybe it was like no, he's like you can

2109
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: see's eyes and he's like.

2110
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's attacking that. Yeah.

2111
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he was getting into it.

2112
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: Dude.

2113
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 2: It was a heated rivalry. What are you gonna say?

2114
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, can you find the clip? There's got

2115
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 2: to be there's got to be a clip, because I

2116
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 2: remember it was a big stink. Dude. It was a

2117
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: big stink when that happened.

2118
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Did you have any thoughts about going to Georgia? You

2119
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: just want to go to upstate. You want to you

2120
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: want to keep the body covered.

2121
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 2: No, I was. I was an app state guy. I

2122
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: mean I went to a I think I went to

2123
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: a summer camp there and like probably eighth grade or something,

2124
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, man, I want to go here.

2125
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is it. They were like trying to

2126
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: get him off of him, dude, just ripping his eyes

2127
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 2: out quite literally.

2128
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he stuck him too.

2129
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's gnarly dude. That literally.

2130
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Just trying to pull him off.

2131
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: He's like, get him off of me. You might kill

2132
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 2: this guy.

2133
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: And every every kid from your high school watching that

2134
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that checks all the checks out.

2135
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 2: That must be the same guy. He has the helmet on.

2136
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure that's the same guy.

2137
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be the same guy.

2138
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 2: Because you don't start there at eye gouging. You don't

2139
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: start there.

2140
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know what I mean, the eye gouging,

2141
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 1: the spitting, the dirty play, like you're a line trait.

2142
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to get in someone's head that in

2143
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 2: the sudden, That's not the.

2144
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: First time No can game boys in high school. He

2145
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: says take dreads as souvenirs. After he's taking is that

2146
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: full back? Did he finish the game?

2147
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, good for you against his own Yeah, choice,

2148
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 2: I would imagine, and they're like, you're good, you get

2149
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 2: this s mount salt, You're good, You're good to go. Yeah.

2150
01:35:55,479 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Music, Yeah what obviously you're doing music from a young

2151
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: age if you're missing a football practice, Yeah, to go

2152
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: to choire. You said it was yep, when did this

2153
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: passion start for you?

2154
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 2: I just kind of sang forever? Man, I don't know,

2155
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: I just I just always did. For as soon as

2156
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: I could talk, I was singing. I'm not sure why,

2157
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 2: but I just was. You know, it's kind of like

2158
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: I guess it'd be like, I don't know, it's like

2159
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 2: being tall or something, dude, like you can just see

2160
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: a truly. I mean, it really is like that. I mean,

2161
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: it's obviously something everybody could get better at anything, but

2162
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: your ability to get better at something is there's some

2163
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 2: sort of innate ceiling that you will hit right. Like

2164
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: I could never run as fast as the fastest kind

2165
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 2: of the world, no matter how hard I tried. I

2166
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: just don't have that trait or whatever it is. And uh,

2167
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: I think singing can be similar to that. I just

2168
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: gravitated towards it, enjoyed it, and I don't know, it

2169
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: was a way for me to get through school, which

2170
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 2: I didn't really love that much. You know. I wasn't

2171
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 2: a big like it wasn't a big learning guy. You know,

2172
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 2: at least think I enjoy learning stuff, but only stuff

2173
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: that I want to learn. Yeah, I don't want to,

2174
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 2: like have to learn things that I don't like. I

2175
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: just completely checked out at that point. So yeah, it

2176
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 2: was I mean, I was in I mean, I was

2177
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: inquired from sixth grade to I graduate high school. I

2178
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 2: mean it was a quarter of my entire experience in

2179
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 2: public school. These means four classes a day, one of

2180
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 2: them's chorus every day from sixth grade to twelfth grade.

2181
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: And when did you decide like, Okay, I'm gonna pursue this.

2182
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 2: There's like twenty one. Yeah it's at app State, like

2183
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 2: twenty one around that time, and again, I'm in school.

2184
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm not loving it. I was singing in like a

2185
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 2: couple groups like I don't like. I don't know what

2186
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 2: you'd call it, like a club or what. I wasn't in,

2187
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 2: like the music program. You know, I didn't want to

2188
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 2: major in music because again there would have been I

2189
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 2: felt like it would have taken some of the joy

2190
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 2: out of it for me a little bit, and I

2191
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 2: just didn't. I struggle a lot with like reading music.

2192
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 2: You know, I can do it, but it takes me

2193
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: a long time. I'm not great at I'm not great

2194
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: at like math and music when you break it down,

2195
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 2: like it's very mathematical if you're like when you're really

2196
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 2: trying to get into like the science of music, that

2197
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 2: part I struggle with and it takes me a long

2198
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 2: time to get through things like that. So that was

2199
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 2: that would have been a huge challenge in majoring in music,

2200
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: you know, it would have been like I'm just not

2201
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: cut out for this version of like doing music for

2202
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 2: a living. And at the time, so at the time,

2203
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 2: I just was I was like, well, I'm just not

2204
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: going to do music. I'll just be hobby that I

2205
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: have and that'll be fine, as I enjoyed doing it,

2206
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 2: and I'll do something else. And then when I picked

2207
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: the guitar up, it all just kind of made sense.

2208
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: You know.

2209
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: I picked it up, and not that I'm particularly good

2210
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 2: at it, you know, I can get by basically, but

2211
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 2: I knew my voice was strong enough at that time

2212
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:48,440
Speaker 2: to just for people to be able to see past that,

2213
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: Like if I started singing, they wouldn't even care what

2214
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 2: the guitar was doing. As long as it was passable

2215
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 2: to some extent, that would be fine with it. And

2216
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 2: so I started to start playing once basically the summer

2217
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 2: after my junior year at Apps State, and I picked

2218
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: it up, spent all summer learning it because I didn't

2219
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: have anything else going on. Besid's working, which i've you know, hated.

2220
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 2: I was like fucking like it was working the same

2221
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: job I worked in high school, which was brutal. It

2222
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 2: was awesome. In high school. I was working at a

2223
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 2: like a like a giant imagine, like a giant chuck

2224
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 2: e cheese on steroids. It's called Ashville's Fun Depot RP.

2225
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 2: It's no longer around indoor go carts, outdoor go carts,

2226
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 2: climbing wall, bumper cars, laser tag, mini golf. It's a

2227
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 2: dream high school gig. This is it, Oh man, man,

2228
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: I've ripped a lot of parts in that place. That place, dude,

2229
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 2: that place was that place ripped. It was a great

2230
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 2: job to have in high school. But then when I

2231
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: went back at twenty one, it was still a great

2232
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 2: job to have in high school. And so I was like, oh, man,

2233
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: now I'm the weird older guy that works here, and

2234
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 2: this is It was a stark It was like a

2235
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 2: stark vision into the future of like, if I don't

2236
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 2: figure something out like this is, this could be it

2237
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: for me, you know, And I was not okay, you know,

2238
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 2: I was just kind of started getting depressed about like, man,

2239
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: is this gonna be like what I'm doing? Am I

2240
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: gonna be like working laser tag when I'm forty years old?

2241
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 2: You know, It's like, we really don't want to be

2242
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 2: doing that. You know, I can't imagine any woman is

2243
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 2: gonna want to marry a guy that's working laser tag

2244
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 2: at forty forty five, at least any woman that I

2245
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: would potentially be interested in marrying. Yeah, you know, so

2246
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 2: it was but it was at that summer needed to happen, man,

2247
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: you know, for this to all come to fruition. It

2248
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 2: just needed to happen that way, And that kind of

2249
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: self conversation was kind of propelled you kind of sparked

2250
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 2: the motivation to dive deeper into your uh, into your

2251
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: like artistic side with music. Yeah, it was just it

2252
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: was just you know, I I'm there and I'm basically

2253
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 2: like I picked the guitar, but my parents had bought

2254
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 2: me a guitar in seventh grade and I didn't really

2255
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 2: play it at all or use it. It was just

2256
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 2: one of those things. It was like another thing my

2257
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 2: parents wanted me to do that I didn't want to

2258
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 2: do at that time, if that makes sense. And so

2259
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 2: I had that same guitar in the closet and my

2260
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 2: mom was like I was sitting on the like on

2261
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: the deck out back or on the side of the

2262
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 2: house somewhere and just bummed out. I had like work

2263
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 2: to shift and came home and it's like it's summer,

2264
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: Like none of my friends are in town anymore. They're

2265
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: all in you know, Raleigh or Chapel Hill or back

2266
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 2: in Boon or wherever they're at in school, and I'm

2267
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 2: just at home live with my parents, like basically failing

2268
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 2: out of college at the time too, and just going

2269
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 2: like what am I going to do? Man? Like I'm

2270
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 2: not going to finish school Like I knew it basically

2271
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: had accepted it at that time, like really like I'm

2272
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 2: not going to you know, I'm just digging myself into

2273
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 2: this giant like financial hole to like continue to like

2274
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 2: put off the inevitable, which is like not finishing school

2275
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 2: and I'm working this kind of like menial job living

2276
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 2: at home, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, year and

2277
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 2: a half, bro, I might be here for real, like

2278
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: living at my parents' house, like not going back to

2279
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 2: school and like not having any end insight to this thing.

2280
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 2: And that was like super depressing to be a part of.

2281
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 2: And my mom came out and she's like, why don't

2282
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 2: you play that guitar that you know we bought you

2283
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 2: or whatever, and she told me. The famous line that

2284
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: she told me was like we need Kenny Chesney and

2285
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: Tim McGraw didn't learn to play guitar till they were

2286
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: twenty one. And whether that's true or not, I still

2287
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe given that a fact check, but she

2288
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: if she made up that lie, it worked big time

2289
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 2: because I was like, man, if those guys can do it,

2290
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 2: I could probably do it too, you know. And so

2291
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 2: it was basically I picked it up as just a

2292
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 2: means to like. It wasn't like I picked it up.

2293
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 2: I was like, well, this will be my job. I

2294
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: just picked it up. I'm like, well, this will at

2295
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 2: least get me through this summer, you know what I mean?

2296
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: Eighteen or nineteen, Okay, hedged it a little bit, but I.

2297
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Like that nothing.

2298
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad by your mom. Yeah,

2299
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 2: great pool. And man, I fell in love with it

2300
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 2: that summer. And I always loved singing and just started

2301
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 2: trying to learn other people's songs and singing them. And

2302
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 2: because I was like, man, anytime I would play, you know,

2303
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 2: I'd bring my guitarsmore and player. If people were at

2304
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 2: my house and I was playing, people loved it, you know,

2305
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 2: even though it wasn't very good you know, to me

2306
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 2: at that time. And it just kept progressing. Man, I

2307
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: just kept going down that path. And then I don't know,

2308
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 2: fast forward, maybe a year and a half, I'm like

2309
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 2: booking my first show, which was today, maybe today, fourteen

2310
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 2: years ago today or yesterday was my first show ever. Yeah. Yeah,

2311
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: it's crazy, man.

2312
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 5: So what led to you getting to book your first show?

2313
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 5: Because you talk about like just playing around your friends

2314
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, but are you like out in

2315
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 5: public playing to where somebody notices?

2316
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm like, I'm I'm basically coming up

2317
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: with this plan in the apartment at this point, and

2318
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think I could be good enough to

2319
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: do you know, like an hour or whatever and just

2320
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 2: play for people I knew. I was like, I knew

2321
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of my friends would come if I, you know,

2322
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: if I invited them and stuff and played my first

2323
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 2: show at the Parthenon Cafe is no longer there either,

2324
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 2: in Boone and but I played rugby in college and

2325
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 2: I loved it, man, because it was just like everything

2326
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 2: I wanted out of football is like almost no strategy

2327
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:23,799
Speaker 2: and just pure violence.

2328
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: You know.

2329
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 2: It was like, which is so sick? And uh so, yeah,

2330
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 2: there it is. That's my first show ever. Uh good.

2331
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 2: Borrowed my neighbor's guitar at the sun my guitar, I

2332
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,799
Speaker 2: borrowed another friend's PA system and it was a dollar

2333
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 2: to get in and I made two hundred bucks, which

2334
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 2: was more than I made it both my jobs that week.

2335
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, bro, this is

2336
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: this is it? Like that that was the day that

2337
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I'm gonna do it

2338
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 2: fourteen years ago today, fourteen years ago today, I was like,

2339
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: this is it, man, Like I can do this, and

2340
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 2: it wasn't even like I'm want to be some big star.

2341
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 2: That wasn't the that was the thought. But I'm like,

2342
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: this is something I could do and really enjoy and

2343
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: make a living and be happy doing this. That was

2344
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 2: the idea. That was when the light bulb went off.

2345
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 2: And then as things continue to progress, like more and

2346
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 2: more people were just coming to the shows, and you know,

2347
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 2: over the course of the next two years, basically I

2348
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 2: spent every waking moment like I was putting together press

2349
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 2: kits for myself, like sending them off to bars and

2350
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 2: restaurants all around North Carolina saying, hey, book me for

2351
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: this show. You know, I'd basically play for you know,

2352
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: paying me a hundred bucks or whatever, and I'll come

2353
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 2: because I knew I could throw the tip jar out

2354
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 2: and make you know, fifty seventy five more bucks that way,

2355
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 2: and it was worth it because it was just me

2356
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 2: and my buddy Adam. Basically we just getting my car

2357
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: his car and drive down the mountain and play for

2358
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 2: a couple of hours and come home and have fun too.

2359
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 2: It's like you're drinking free and eating free, and you know,

2360
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 2: people like everybody thinks you're great when you're playing music,

2361
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 2: like if you're decent, even if you're decent at a bar,

2362
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:01,799
Speaker 2: people are like, this guy's awesome.

2363
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: People love music.

2364
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 2: People love music.

2365
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 1: Especially when the expectations low.

2366
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're just like I'm in some chicken wing

2367
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 2: restaurant somewhere in Winston Salem'm like, how good can this

2368
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 2: guy be?

2369
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2370
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 2: How bad can he be? Ye? Really bad? He could

2371
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 2: be really bad, but you know, oh, dar, he's not

2372
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 2: going to be the next whatever. You know, So it

2373
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 2: was always like a pleasant surprise. That's me and Adam there.

2374
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 2: That was the day we met, actually and met him.

2375
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 2: He lived in He's from Boone, originally went to high

2376
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 2: school there and had went to play baseball somewhere and

2377
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 2: then transferred back to APP. And I would watch a

2378
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: lot of his videos, and I didn't know he went

2379
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: to APP, didn't know he's from there. But he played

2380
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 2: a lot of covers of a lot of the songs

2381
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 2: that I liked, and his hands were always visible, so

2382
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 2: I could see how he was playing the songs, and

2383
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 2: that's how I would learn songs. It was like I'd

2384
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 2: watch some of his videos and then one of the

2385
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 2: videos he came out in an APP state hat and

2386
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 2: I was like, you gotta be shitting me, dude, is

2387
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 2: this like a random hat? It's like popped to like

2388
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: Google or whatever. I don't know Facebook, I guess on

2389
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: this guy and I sent him a message and I'm like, hey, man,

2390
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: do you live in Boom like I saw one of year.

2391
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: I've watched a bunch of your videos and he was like, yeah, man,

2392
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm from here. I live here, and he lived like

2393
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 2: five minutes in the road from me, and then he

2394
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: came over to my house. That was the first thing

2395
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 2: we ever did together. And we played hundreds of shows

2396
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 2: after that in town together. So he had some like

2397
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: gigs he was already booking, so he kind of let

2398
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 2: me glob onto those, and then I let him glob

2399
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 2: onto my gigs. So we doubled our gigs and split

2400
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 2: the money so twice as many people would see us play,

2401
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 2: and then we'd still make the same amount of money

2402
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: because any show was a good show then, Like it

2403
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 2: was like anywhere that would let you play anytime, right, Yeah.

2404
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I played a coffee shop on a Tuesday in the

2405
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 2: middle of afternoon sometimes. If that was what I could get,

2406
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 2: that's what I would take, you know. And it worked out. Man,

2407
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 2: it worked out. It was crazy, dude. Some of the

2408
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 2: videos too, looked like you were spread some of the

2409
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 2: awareness through social platforms like Vine oh big time. Yeah.

2410
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,440
Speaker 2: Vin was huge for me. And that was it wasn't intentional.

2411
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, now it's a strategy right, like now

2412
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: it's like social media is the game. Back then, it

2413
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 2: was kind of this uncharted territory. Everybody was on it,

2414
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: but no one had discovered it as a marketing tool

2415
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 2: or a business TOOLALI, So it's kind of unintentionally. So, yeah,

2416
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't like, you know, what would be great is

2417
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 2: to like get a bunch of followers and then get

2418
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 2: those people to all potentially buy songs and tickets. Like

2419
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 2: it just kind of turned into that. There was no like,

2420
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 2: there was no light bulb moment. It was just like

2421
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 2: that's what everybody my age was doing at that time,

2422
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: and then it became this this big thing that that

2423
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 2: ultimately became like one of the main reasons for my

2424
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 2: success because I had leverage. When I came to Nashville,

2425
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: I was already selling a bunch of tickets and I

2426
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 2: was already selling my own songs, and I didn't even

2427
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 2: realize that was a big deal.

2428
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: So as you're coming to Nashville like what it looks

2429
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: like it could be.

2430
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 2: That's it's a hefty You're a hefty boy coming in.

2431
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 5: You're leveraging against what when you come to Nashville, like

2432
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 5: compared to what most most most artists go up against

2433
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 5: when they come here.

2434
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not the trend anymore obviously, with you know,

2435
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 2: now everybody's figured out the social media game. So that's

2436
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 2: the way you do it is you know, back then

2437
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 2: it was like everybody would just move to Nashville on

2438
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 2: a wing and a prayer with a dream, you know,

2439
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 2: and it's like everybody's unproven. You have nothing to offer,

2440
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 2: really the label or anyone that would sign you other

2441
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 2: than this guy we think could maybe have potential. That

2442
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: was the only thing you could offer. Now kids are

2443
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,879
Speaker 2: coming to town with well, I've sold one hundred thousand

2444
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: copies of my songs and I'm doing shows and I

2445
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 2: have two million TikTok followers, and it's like it's undeniable, right,

2446
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 2: Like you can't argue with those statistics. But back then

2447
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 2: I came not with those kind of numbers, but with

2448
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 2: numbers that were really good, and nobody had anything. And

2449
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 2: I didn't even really use that as a selling point,

2450
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: you know. I was just kind of like I thought

2451
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 2: that's what everyone had. I was like, well, you moved

2452
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 2: to Nashville, dude, Like you're ready to be Like you're

2453
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 2: in the league, dude, you know what I mean. It's

2454
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 2: like showing up to the to the basically to the

2455
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,879
Speaker 2: super Bowl and you're like, oh, I've never actually played

2456
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 2: but and it's like, what are you talking? What do

2457
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 2: you mean you've never played before? But like that was

2458
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: what was going on. It was just you just come

2459
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 2: to town and see how good you were, the good

2460
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 2: guy in your little town, and then you come and

2461
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:28,759
Speaker 2: see how you stack up against everybody else.

2462
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, come with that type of leverage.

2463
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 5: I'll just go say, like what is that leverage by,

2464
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 5: Like what does that leverage get you?

2465
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 2: On the business side of things?

2466
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: Because Jelley was a few years ago, he was breaking

2467
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 1: down how like the record labels work, how they fund

2468
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: you money at the percentage points, and he's trying to

2469
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 1: flip it and all that, Like how.

2470
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 2: Does he put so many different kind of breakdowns. I'm

2471
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 2: always just fascinated. Yeah, I mean it it grant so

2472
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 2: like I got passed on by Sony my first year

2473
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 2: in Nashville, and then I ended up signing with them

2474
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 2: two years later, And that is one of the best

2475
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 2: things that ever happened to me, dude, because two years later,

2476
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 2: I've got my first album is done. I basically own

2477
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: the entire thing. I license it to the label. I'm

2478
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 2: already selling out my own shows. So then when it

2479
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 2: comes down to negotiating the points of the deal, I'm like, well,

2480
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 2: I could just not sign and just keep doing what

2481
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I don't need to sign.

2482
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was some something that Sony offers that makes it?

2483
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: Oh?

2484
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a this is a great move.

2485
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because when you're talking about I can already sell

2486
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 1: my own shows out of my album done, you have

2487
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 1: obviously if a fan base established, what could Sony give

2488
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: you radio?

2489
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And at that time, that's the only thing you

2490
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 2: really needed at that time, that was radio.

2491
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 5: Like Sony has a bunch of slots.

2492
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 2: Or they have a whole team that goes out and

2493
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 2: basically they know everyone at every you know, reporting radio

2494
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 2: station in the country. So they that's how you know

2495
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 2: your song doesn't get on the radio by accident, dude,

2496
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 2: especially at that time, it was very gate kept, you know.

2497
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 2: And that's not cost big money to get on the

2498
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 2: radio tub. I mean big money in the terms of

2499
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 2: the people, the amount of people it took to work

2500
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:15,719
Speaker 2: your records, you know. I mean they have a whole

2501
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 2: you know. So like at that time, I'm at Sony.

2502
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 2: There's three imprints at Sony at that time, so there's Sony, Columbia,

2503
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 2: Sony Arista, an RCA, I believe, so there's three teams.

2504
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 2: So like if I'm at Columbia, then Kenny Chesney at

2505
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 2: the time was at RCA or Arista, and Brad Paisley

2506
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 2: was at one of the other two, and Carrie Underwood

2507
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 2: was there and came Brown had just got signed, and

2508
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 2: Chris Young is there, and it's they're all different imprints,

2509
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 2: and each imprint had its own radio team of five people,

2510
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 2: so like ahead of promotion, a Southeast REP, a Northeast REP,

2511
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,719
Speaker 2: a Midwest REP, a Southwest REP, and a Northwest Rep

2512
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 2: just to work your song to radio. So then they

2513
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 2: would take your song and go, hey, we've got this

2514
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: new guy, and listen to this song. Get your like,

2515
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: actually sit down and listen to it. They were basically

2516
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 2: A and R and your song to the radio, and

2517
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 2: you could do these deals where we'd be like, okay, well,

2518
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 2: you know, if you sit down and listen to the song, like, well,

2519
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 2: you know there's that big Kenny shows coming up, you

2520
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like probably want to come chill

2521
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 2: at that, you know what I mean, Like be cool

2522
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 2: to chill at the Kenny show, you know. And it's

2523
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 2: like that's all understood, and it's not like it's you know,

2524
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 2: back in the day, they would just show up with

2525
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 2: briefcases of money. In the seventies, it was like here's

2526
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of money, played the song, and like, Okay,

2527
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen anymore, you know, And now it's completely

2528
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 2: different because streaming is way different, and you know, that

2529
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 2: stuff still kind of baffles me, like how those things work.

2530
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 2: I would imagine there's something kind of similar is going

2531
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 2: on maybe and it's not the slight to anyone or anything.

2532
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: It's just the nature of the business at that time.

2533
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 2: But you couldn't do that on your own. You need

2534
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 2: a team that knows how to how to play, like

2535
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 2: you need basically you need a coaching staff almost, and

2536
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: to put it in sports terms, like you need to

2537
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 2: like here's the play. We're gonna run. You have the

2538
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 2: skill to run the play. Let us go, let us

2539
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 2: go show everybody what you can do. Let us get

2540
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: you on the field. Yeah with everyone, you know what

2541
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean. So it's it's a crazy business. But yeah,

2542
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the difference could be these are all well

2543
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 2: fake numbers of this thing. So let's say you know

2544
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 2: those old arithmetic questions where they'd be like, would you

2545
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: rather have a penny a second for every day for

2546
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: rest of your life? Or dold you rather have a

2547
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 2: penny and double it for a month? Or would you

2548
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 2: rather have a thousand dollars every day for ten years?

2549
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 2: And you're like, you tried to like do the math

2550
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: on which one of those is better. But record deals

2551
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: are the same way. So it's like, let's say a

2552
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: label comes to you and says you're a new artist

2553
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 2: with no leverage, and they go, hey, man, we'll give

2554
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: you two million bucks up front, Like maybe the signing

2555
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: bonuses five hundred thousand dollars non recoupable, So you get

2556
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: the two million dollars, five hundred thousand dollars of it

2557
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 2: is yours, no strings attached. The other million and a

2558
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 2: half you're gonna basically is an interest free loan that

2559
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 2: you're going to pay back to us after you've made money,

2560
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 2: because we took all the inherent risk to sign you

2561
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: to the deal, and then as you earn, like as

2562
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 2: you're earning power increases, we take that money back. And

2563
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 2: then let's say they go, well, you're gonna make we're

2564
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 2: gonna take twenty five percent of all the tickets you sell,

2565
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 2: twenty five percent of all the t shirts you sell,

2566
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 2: seventy five percent of all the records you sell, or whatever.

2567
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 2: Or you could take a deal and say, hey, two

2568
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 2: years later, you've got all this leverage and you go, hey,

2569
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't want any money upfront at all. And they're

2570
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 2: like that always blows their mind. They're like, what do

2571
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 2: you mean you don't want any money? Like, don't eat it.

2572
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 2: I'd rather have the the percentage points back over time.

2573
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 2: And so well, maybe you guys keep no percentage of

2574
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 2: mind and no percentage of my tickets, and you keep

2575
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: ten percent of the record because it's it's huge now,

2576
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 2: so the ten percent maybe more than the deal you

2577
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 2: were already offering me. But a lot of people let's

2578
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 2: say you're I don't know, you're freaking Elton John and

2579
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 2: you sign that deal when you have nothing, and then

2580
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: they got you in that deal for seven year for

2581
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: seven records. That could be like you're almost your whole career,

2582
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 2: right yeah. I mean I'm not even on my seventh

2583
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 2: record yet. This will be my sixth record that I'm

2584
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 2: promoing right now. So I can't imagine being in a

2585
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 2: deal that was structured that way and they have no

2586
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: incentive to negotiate. Why would they change your deal at

2587
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 2: this point? That was the whole goal, is to get

2588
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 2: you to this point where the labels just like printing money,

2589
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 2: and that's the nature of the business man. It's not

2590
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 2: like a slide at the way labels operate, but it's

2591
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 2: like some of those big long deals are definitely set

2592
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 2: up to be advantageous for them in the end as

2593
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 2: opposed to you, which is just because at the time

2594
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 2: they were taking all the risk because nobody was coming

2595
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:04,839
Speaker 2: to town with anything, and they're basically fronting you millions

2596
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 2: of dollars to start your career, and then the way

2597
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: you pay them back is a percentage of of your

2598
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 2: earnings over the rest of your career, basically a high

2599
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 2: interest loan. Even though it's a no interest. You know,

2600
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 2: when you pay it back, you don't, you know, it

2601
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 2: doesn't increase, but they just make a ton on the end.

2602
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 1: When you first get to Nashville, do you have representation already?

2603
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Are you kind of running solo? You're knocking on doors,

2604
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 1: You're going down the music row?

2605
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 2: No I'm not. I'm not going down like those days

2606
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 2: were long over at that that at one time was

2607
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 2: the was the process, Like you could just go down

2608
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 2: and knock on it. This time you wouldn't even know

2609
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 2: an even answered. They'd be like, don't answer that. Some

2610
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: random guy with a guitar here brutal, you know, which

2611
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 2: would be brutal. It would be a lot of brutal,

2612
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: brutal run ins with people, I would imagine. And it's

2613
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm there. I have no manager, I have

2614
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: no booking agent, I know anything. So I just moved

2615
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 2: to town. I had enough money to not have to

2616
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 2: work just from playing shows, and I had released a

2617
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 2: couple of songs in college, so I wasn't worried about,

2618
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 2: like how am I going to make a living? I

2619
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 2: knew at least too, I got at least two years

2620
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 2: of like just cruise control, Like, yeah, I can just

2621
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 2: go out and network and try to write songs with

2622
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 2: people and see what happens. In this two year period.

2623
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 2: That was basically my mind what was going to happen.

2624
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 2: You know, It's like, just see what happens for two

2625
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 2: years and then Readjust so I did that, man. I

2626
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 2: would write five days a week for weeks and weeks

2627
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 2: on end, go play writers nights, go try to meet people,

2628
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 2: and then it wrote. You know, eventually what was my

2629
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 2: first record? Not really even intentionally, it's just like, well,

2630
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 2: I got all these songs and I need to put

2631
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 2: some more songs out, and then I made an EP

2632
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 2: and then that transitioned into making a record, and it

2633
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 2: just all kind of fell into place. You know. It

2634
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 2: was just it was like, for lack of a better term,

2635
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 2: like baby steps. Man. Like it was like there was

2636
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 2: I was never looking at the finish line. I was

2637
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 2: just always looking at the next step. I believe, what's

2638
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 2: the next thing I need to do, you know, like

2639
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 2: get to the next thing, and then I can get

2640
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 2: to the next thing. And then ultimately, all of a sudden,

2641
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 2: you're like at the top and you're like weird, yeah,

2642
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 2: weird that like because none of it felt it didn't

2643
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 2: feel like this big task because I was never looking

2644
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 2: at how many steps I had left. I was just like,

2645
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 2: well I can't get to the next one. That's easy,

2646
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 2: just you know, just to the Yeah, just to go

2647
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 2: from here. It's pretty black and white. It was like,

2648
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no playbook, but it was just it

2649
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 2: became obvious over time. Let's just do whatever we got

2650
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 2: to do to like get to the next point and

2651
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: like continue and give ourselves a better chance every day.

2652
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: And it was fun, man, it was those were fun times. Well,

2653
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 2: we're a.

2654
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 5: Couple of like pivotal relationships you made that kind of

2655
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 5: you know, kind of catapulted into the next baby steps

2656
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 5: or maybe you got to you know, you got to

2657
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 5: go through a baby step fast because of a you know,

2658
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 5: certain relationships that you had made that you're like, oh man,

2659
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 5: this will be Yeah.

2660
01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Been big for my career, and now that I look

2661
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 1: back on.

2662
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 2: It, yeah, I I mean meeting meeting my kind of

2663
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 2: group of guys that I you know, still write with

2664
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 2: to this day was huge. I mean when that record

2665
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 2: came out, I think every person that wrote on that album,

2666
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 2: I think there was only one person that even had

2667
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 2: a publishing deal, so like we're all basically guys and

2668
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 2: gals that just met each other at the bar that

2669
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 2: wrote that record, which is like my biggest record, you know. Yeah,

2670
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 2: And it was all just like that was like love

2671
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 2: of the game, like just trying to write the best

2672
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 2: stuff we could write and then ultimately turns into this

2673
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 2: like huge album that like changes my life or whatever.

2674
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 2: So those were the first important, but the first important

2675
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 2: relationships that I had. When I got to town. I

2676
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 2: ended up at a a friend of mine had a

2677
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 2: showcase at the Exit Inn, and he was like, do

2678
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 2: you want to come play before me at you know,

2679
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 2: like a showcase is basically you've been in town for

2680
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 2: a while, you're decently established, you know enough people where

2681
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 2: you can it's basically open invite to people in the

2682
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 2: industry to come watch you perform. It's almost like an

2683
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 2: audition for like a record deal or a publishing deal

2684
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 2: or a booking deal or whatever. Like you invite people

2685
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 2: from all these agencies to come, and that it's only

2686
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 2: happening when you have like a lot of momentum going on.

2687
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 2: So he asked me to come play like first of four,

2688
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 2: like first guy, and I played like just by myself,

2689
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 2: maybe with like Kurt, who's like in my band now

2690
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 2: but at the time he wasn't. And we played a

2691
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 2: couple of songs acoustic. So I played my set, a

2692
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 2: couple of songs, end up backstage and there's like a

2693
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 2: bunch of dudes back there like suit it out, like

2694
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 2: doing the whole thing stereotypical, right, like suits, you know. Yeah,

2695
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey man, we work for this book

2696
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 2: an agency called APA was the name of the agency.

2697
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 2: They're big in a lot of other entertainment spaces, but

2698
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 2: in Nashville they were relatively new getting into the country

2699
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 2: music world, so their Nashville office wasn't very big, and

2700
02:01:58,640 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 2: they were like, we'd love to set up a me

2701
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 2: with you or whatever. I'm like, listen, dude, I'm in

2702
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 2: if you guys can get me shows. I'm in, Like,

2703
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,240
Speaker 2: if you can get book shows for me, Like that

2704
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 2: would take a ton off my plate because I basically

2705
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 2: wasn't able to play any shows because all my connections

2706
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 2: were back in North Carolina and so I wasn't gonna commute,

2707
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, eight hours to go make tun or Bucks.

2708
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: It just didn't make sense anymore. So I always knew

2709
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 2: that the only way I'm gonna get anybody to be

2710
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 2: interested in my music at all is get in front

2711
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 2: of them, like no one's gonna look at a picture

2712
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 2: of me and go, this guy's a star. We got

2713
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 2: to get this guy up here. I just knew that

2714
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,400
Speaker 2: it's just the harsh reality of my life at that time,

2715
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 2: and it's really my life now still, to be honest,

2716
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 2: but it's like you just know, you know, yeah, you

2717
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 2: just you just know. You're like, okay, well, I mean

2718
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 2: the people that are crushing at that time are Florida, Georgia, Line,

2719
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 2: Sam Hunt, Chase Rice, Like, I mean, those dudes are hot,

2720
02:02:56,920 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 2: bro Like, they're hot, and like I'm not hot, and

2721
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm not tall, I'm not in shape, and I'm like,

2722
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't like an ex college athlete or

2723
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:08,440
Speaker 2: like they have all these good they have great stories

2724
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 2: and they're good looking, and they're like charismatic, you know,

2725
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 2: like and so I'm like, man, I got nothing on

2726
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 2: these guys. And uh So at the time, it was

2727
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 2: like nobody in town was interested in signing a guy

2728
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:23,280
Speaker 2: like me because it's like, well, this is the thing

2729
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 2: that's working, ain't this guy in Nashville loves to play

2730
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 2: it safe man. Like when they see a thing that works,

2731
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 2: they love to go. Let's find more of that thing

2732
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:37,120
Speaker 2: that works and just continue to hammer that until somebody

2733
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 2: breaks the mold, and then we'll just pour everyone else

2734
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 2: into that same mold, you know. And again it's no

2735
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 2: fault because it's a low risk. Like you know that

2736
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 2: people love fgl So you sign Chase or you sign

2737
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 2: sam Hunt like you like, it's just it's a plug

2738
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 2: and play kind of thing.

2739
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: Right, He's not a bad thing, but the play book

2740
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 1: you might as well used to play with.

2741
02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 2: Everybody's running three tight end. Let's run three tight end,

2742
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, let's all do it. You

2743
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 2: know it's working, and I mean, look at this guy.

2744
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 2: This guy's beautiful, dude. Look at this guy. He's beautiful, dude.

2745
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: He's incredibly talented guy. You know, he's like probably he's

2746
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 2: like shooting like ski and like old like fils and stuff.

2747
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 2: And you're like, this guy's cool, dude. You know, nobody

2748
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 2: thinks about me in that vein. Would you type in

2749
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 2: like super hot.

2750
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 1: This here, this guys off with his looks.

2751
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 2: But there's one of those guys.

2752
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard. This guy makes me more mad

2753
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: than snow.

2754
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 2: It's hard to compete.

2755
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: With this. Look at that man, chiseled, chiseled chisel.

2756
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 4: And so.

2757
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 5: There's no pictures of me, you know, they're just just

2758
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 5: not and uh, you need to just take You need

2759
02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 5: to like recreate a lot of type comes.

2760
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 2: Shirtless and I guarantee there's not many. Uh, there you go.

2761
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 2: This is more my drip here, dude, boxy, you know,

2762
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:15,320
Speaker 2: flattering kind of you know, lean into like the bad genetics,

2763
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,360
Speaker 2: you know, like the closed eyes and like the not

2764
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:20,920
Speaker 2: fully grown in beard, like lean into that stuff.

2765
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 1: You do, you do need to take like this starting

2766
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 1: out era of the Sam Hunts and Riley Green and

2767
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 1: just photoshop your face on top of them.

2768
02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 5: Sure, just recreate some of the photos, like you get

2769
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 5: the boat one that Leys just on he just drops

2770
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 5: one when we got shirtless and what buff Oh yeah.

2771
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 2: That's gonna that's gonna come up, oh baby. Surprisingly not

2772
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 2: hairy though up top, which is weird like episode, but

2773
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 2: it's very shaven. That's that's what gives me the little

2774
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have this in my room though every day

2775
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 2: and be like it's gonna be me man.

2776
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 1: You know, dead guy's ticking bread and spikes out.

2777
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he's got he's got a chance. At least he

2778
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 2: stands a chance. But so I'm up against kind of

2779
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 2: that thing at the time, which is the normal Nashville

2780
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 2: look and mold at that time. And the really the

2781
02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 2: big pivotal moment there we go that guy is taken

2782
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 2: out the spikes for sure, and the mold. It's like

2783
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 2: the guy that really breaks the mold is christ Apleton.

2784
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:35,840
Speaker 2: Me coomes out and just bad ass bro like incredible singer,

2785
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 2: incredible writer. If you lived in Nashville, you knew who

2786
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 2: Chris Stapleton was. You just already knew. You know, it

2787
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:45,240
Speaker 2: was a travesty. It took that long for him to

2788
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 2: get to that point, you know. I mean he was

2789
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 2: like he was your favorite writer's favorite writer in town

2790
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 2: at that time. You know it still is. But when

2791
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 2: he did that performance with Timberlake at the CMAS, it

2792
02:06:57,320 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 2: was a whole different. It just blew them like it

2793
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 2: was this groundbreaking moment of like everybody in town new

2794
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,960
Speaker 2: without talking to each other, Like shit just changed for sure,

2795
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 2: because like if it ain't that good, it ain't gonna work, dude,

2796
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 2: because now people know the cat's out of the bag, dude,

2797
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 2: Like people know that exists, and that's gonna be an issue.

2798
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

2799
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 2: That's gonna be an issue for hot dudes everywhere right now.

2800
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 2: And it's taken a while for there to be a

2801
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 2: new hot dude. You know, you got Ryley now, but

2802
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 2: still not a lot of super hot dudes running around

2803
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: Jelly not hot dude. I'm not hot, We're not hot.

2804
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:38,760
Speaker 2: It's fine, Yeah, it's okay, you know what I mean.

2805
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 2: And so really, if the Stapleton moment doesn't happen, I

2806
02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:44,080
Speaker 2: don't know that my stuff happened shakes out in the

2807
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 2: same way because then people were willing to go Now

2808
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 2: my stuff took off. I mean maybe when was that Stapleton? Yeah,

2809
02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: well do you know the date on that? If you

2810
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 2: know the date, I could really really don't think your

2811
02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 2: stuff takes off without not in the same way, but

2812
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:03,160
Speaker 2: like not, maybe it does, but I don't know if

2813
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 2: it takes off in Nashville within the industry, Like, I

2814
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 2: don't know that I get some of the chances I

2815
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 2: get without that moment. Got you know, twenty fifteen. Okay,

2816
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 2: so I'm living in Nashville. I moved in September of fourteen.

2817
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 2: So this happens November of fifteen. So I've already got

2818
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 2: Hurricane already written it, had already released it on my own,

2819
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 2: but still nothing was really going on with it. And

2820
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 2: this happens, and then and then I start getting like

2821
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 2: people are knocking on my door like they're like, bro,

2822
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 2: we need we need ugly guy. Dude, this is your time, Bro,

2823
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 2: this is you're the guy. I'm like, yes, so yeah,

2824
02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 2: I get my deal.

2825
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 1: And did you have any when you see this go down?

2826
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you watched it.

2827
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:49,400
Speaker 2: I watched it live.

2828
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 1: You watch it live, did a piece of you go,

2829
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:53,280
Speaker 1: I've got this is it? This is my time?

2830
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, oh, this is incredible, No, it wasn't

2831
02:08:56,240 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 2: this is my time. It was a this is a

2832
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 2: absolute ground like like a magnetic like polar shift in

2833
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 2: what will be popular in country music. And it won't

2834
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 2: happen tomorrow, but this is the start because of how

2835
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 2: successful and how much people were just you can just yeah,

2836
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 2: you just watched it and you just knew it was

2837
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:19,360
Speaker 2: so different than anything you had seen on the CMA

2838
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 2: Awards in a long time. And then the reaction to

2839
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he just becomes a star like overnight. I mean,

2840
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 2: obviously he was. I mean, he was an OG at

2841
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 2: that point in the game, but nobody knew about him

2842
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 2: outside of town unless you were listening to the Steel Drivers.

2843
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 2: And then even then it was just he was the

2844
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:39,320
Speaker 2: singer of the steel Drivers.

2845
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,120
Speaker 1: Was Chris Stapleton and the steel Drivers?

2846
02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 2: Or was just just the steel Drivers? Yeah, he was

2847
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 2: just the lead singer for the steel Drivers and was

2848
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:49,080
Speaker 2: righting a lot of that stuff too. But he was

2849
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 2: pretty famous in town amongst amongst writers and artists and stuff,

2850
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 2: and everyone was like, how is this guy not huge, dude?

2851
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 2: Because everyone was scared to take the risk man, Like

2852
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 2: it was like, I mean, I would be I would

2853
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:05,919
Speaker 2: love to know the sort of how that CMA performance

2854
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 2: even came together, because it wasn't like he had some

2855
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:10,880
Speaker 2: big deal, and it was like he was this new

2856
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,840
Speaker 2: artist and everybody knows he's about to blow up, so

2857
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 2: let's put him in the CMA Awards. It's like, all

2858
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's on there and you're like, is

2859
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 2: that Chris Stapleton? Like damn, that guy's badass, dude. Yeah,

2860
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:25,880
Speaker 2: and then just everybody became country. It was I mean,

2861
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 2: it was, I mean, it really was, man, It was

2862
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 2: groundbreaking dude, and that was so cool as a fan

2863
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:33,960
Speaker 2: of the genre and as a guy felt like guys

2864
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 2: would like myself didn't really get a chance at that time,

2865
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 2: Like you saw it and was like, oh this guy,

2866
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm cheering for this guy, Like I don't care

2867
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 2: if it affects me or not, but like I'm pumped

2868
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 2: at this guy's getting because to me, I felt like

2869
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 2: at that time a little bit, I was a little

2870
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 2: bit like bummed out because I'm going, well, man, what's

2871
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 2: it take to get a chance? Dude? Like how good

2872
02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 2: do you have to be? It would be like if

2873
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 2: everybody in the NBA had a twenty inch vertical and

2874
02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 2: you had a forty five inch vertical and they were like, uhh,

2875
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 2: no jumping. You guy that jumps good, don't jump at all.

2876
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 2: Let these other guys jump. People like watching these guys jump.

2877
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 2: They're good, they're good looking guys. They jump okay, And

2878
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:18,280
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, this fucker gets up and

2879
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 2: hits the fifty inch vertical and you're like, oh people

2880
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 2: can jump that high. Wow. Yeah yeah, And I was like,

2881
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 2: oh man, they might let me get it. They might

2882
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 2: let me get a jump in it. Jumping you know

2883
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:29,760
Speaker 2: what I mean. I was like, now I might get

2884
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 2: a chance to show show myself a little bit.

2885
02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, were you ever like jaded to the situation

2886
02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:36,360
Speaker 1: before the script Chris Stapleton.

2887
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,200
Speaker 2: Came up not too bad in some ways.

2888
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:41,160
Speaker 1: You had to be this some extent. Everybody's got that piece,

2889
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:42,480
Speaker 1: You're like, fuck that guy.

2890
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 2: Well, because there was a lot of like, there was

2891
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 2: a lot of guys who I felt like at that

2892
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 2: time and again, this is like, this is not the

2893
02:11:50,120 --> 02:11:52,520
Speaker 2: way I feel now, But the way I felt then

2894
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 2: was like man like I'm like, bro, like this is nice,

2895
02:11:56,920 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 2: not braggy. This is just the mindset of me at

2896
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 2: this time. Young dude feels like he can play ball

2897
02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 2: with the best of them, going, I am a lot

2898
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 2: better than these other guys they're doing this, and like

2899
02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 2: why like why can't I even get on the field.

2900
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 1: With these guys, which is the most normal thing.

2901
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I can hang like whatever, Like, let

2902
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 2: me up there and I'll show you what it's what

2903
02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 2: playing ball looks like. Not that I'm the best guy

2904
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:23,880
Speaker 2: in the world or anything, but I felt I had

2905
02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:26,960
Speaker 2: a supreme confidence in my ability to get up and

2906
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:30,480
Speaker 2: sing and perform with anybody that was doing it or

2907
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 2: anybody that's doing it now, and maybe that's you know,

2908
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 2: maybe that's like oblivious, or maybe that's ridiculous to you.

2909
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 1: Just take it for better or worse.

2910
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. I can do at least get the

2911
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:42,960
Speaker 2: same shot as everyone else. And I'm not getting that

2912
02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:45,400
Speaker 2: shot right now, and so I'm just gonna have to

2913
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:47,960
Speaker 2: go earn my shot and make it myself. And so

2914
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 2: when Apa offered me that booking deal, I was like, dude,

2915
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 2: I'll do whatever, man like book me shows, cause I'm

2916
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:54,879
Speaker 2: just gonna have to go prove to anybody and everybody

2917
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:57,240
Speaker 2: that I can hang. And that was going out and

2918
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 2: playing shows. I knew if I played in a room

2919
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:02,040
Speaker 2: of fifty people and I came back to that town

2920
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 2: the next year, there'd be one hundred or two hundred,

2921
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 2: And if I just kept doing that, it would just

2922
02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 2: double or triple every time until we're playing in stadiums today.

2923
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 5: Just like you know, it's it's late night, you're about

2924
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 5: to go to bed, you're looking at yourself in the mirror,

2925
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 5: and you're like, it's time to get out steroids.

2926
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, still.

2927
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 1: Yesterday's to reshape the phy.

2928
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got be cool. Probably not like from a

2929
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:34,880
Speaker 2: health standpoint in the long r but for the short

2930
02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 2: term it would rip. Dude, I would be I'd be unbearable.

2931
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:44,960
Speaker 2: I always tell that guy's a menister that get some testosterone.

2932
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 2: Always tell my buddies. I'm like, God made me fat

2933
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 2: for a reason because if I was in good shape,

2934
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 2: I would be miserable to be around. Like people would

2935
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 2: just be like, God, here was this guy again, and

2936
02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 2: she's funny. He's definitely taking his shirt off.

2937
02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:00,440
Speaker 1: You know.

2938
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:03,160
Speaker 2: It's just like, Mae, like, you would hate me if

2939
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 2: I was in good shape. But then I'm like, you

2940
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 2: see me and I'm rocking a three X shirt. You're like,

2941
02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:10,520
Speaker 2: you know what, Scot, I'm not worried that my my

2942
02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:13,040
Speaker 2: girlfriend's fall in love with this guy. She's not going

2943
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 2: to look at this guy love. You're not afraid of

2944
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 2: that guy. That guy's in the bar. That's not mister

2945
02:14:18,920 --> 02:14:20,000
Speaker 2: steel your girl right there.

2946
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:20,320
Speaker 1: Dude.

2947
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:23,160
Speaker 2: It just is it just is not you know what

2948
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean. That's just the way it is, and that's

2949
02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:25,760
Speaker 2: okay with me.

2950
02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, before this Chris Stapleton twenty fifty, had you

2951
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:32,880
Speaker 1: met Chris Stapleton before that.

2952
02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 2: Had met him at this.

2953
02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:36,960
Speaker 1: So when you're getting to Nashville and your brain you're like.

2954
02:14:37,160 --> 02:14:38,920
Speaker 2: Well, I was there. I was already in town. I

2955
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,880
Speaker 2: just like we were in different lead. So he was

2956
02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:45,080
Speaker 2: way above this. I've seen this AI picture of us

2957
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:52,160
Speaker 2: beautiful that in a nice like, hey man, can we

2958
02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 2: do a whole photo shoot together walking in the field. Yeah,

2959
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 2: between having a bunch of kids and stuff. I know

2960
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 2: we both got a bunch of kids, but like, let's

2961
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 2: go hang out man and just do it. Let's just

2962
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:14,800
Speaker 2: do the thing. Yeah, that is nice. No one's making

2963
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:16,160
Speaker 2: those those already existed.

2964
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2965
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:18,920
Speaker 2: Wow, huh.

2966
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 1: It makes you think a little bit.

2967
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:22,240
Speaker 2: Huh you think it's like a sex thing a little bit.

2968
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:25,280
Speaker 2: You think there's someone that's like, I'm into like half

2969
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:29,160
Speaker 2: to your guys on this, there's a category right there,

2970
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:29,720
Speaker 2: for sure.

2971
02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure that makes that happen. Yeah, but when

2972
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:34,480
Speaker 1: you're getting to Nashville, who are you?

2973
02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:35,320
Speaker 2: Who are you thinking?

2974
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 1: In your brain? I got to meet these people, and

2975
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:39,160
Speaker 1: then when you learn the game and who, like I

2976
02:15:39,320 --> 02:15:40,560
Speaker 1: really got to meet these people.

2977
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:42,560
Speaker 2: I think it was a lot of it for me

2978
02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:45,040
Speaker 2: with songwriters were the people that I wanted to meet

2979
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:48,240
Speaker 2: because I knew that they could make me better, and

2980
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 2: I knew I could learn a lot from them, And

2981
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:52,200
Speaker 2: that was my big focus at that time, was being

2982
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:56,400
Speaker 2: the best I could be, so that I knew whenever

2983
02:15:56,480 --> 02:15:58,280
Speaker 2: I did get my shot, that I was even more

2984
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:00,760
Speaker 2: prepared for it than I thought that I was. And

2985
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:02,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to write people that were better than me,

2986
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:07,680
Speaker 2: better singers, better guitar players, and basically everyone was you

2987
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:10,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, there's a lot of really

2988
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 2: talented people in this town, man, and I think those

2989
02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:17,440
Speaker 2: were the people that I really gravitated towards. Was, man,

2990
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 2: how did this? You know? Like Jonathan Singleton is a

2991
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:22,960
Speaker 2: dear friend of mine. He produces my records with me

2992
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:25,600
Speaker 2: now and we own a publishing company together. He gave

2993
02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:28,400
Speaker 2: me my first publishing deal and when that happened, it

2994
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 2: was like a dream, Dude. I was like, this guy

2995
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:32,640
Speaker 2: is like he's like one of my heroes, like one

2996
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:35,760
Speaker 2: of my songwriting heroes. Like he's written all these I mean,

2997
02:16:35,800 --> 02:16:38,600
Speaker 2: his first cut was watching airplanes, Gary Allen, the first

2998
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:39,959
Speaker 2: thing he ever got caught, you know.

2999
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:40,240
Speaker 1: What I mean.

3000
02:16:40,959 --> 02:16:44,520
Speaker 2: And it's just he's written I mean twenty something number ones,

3001
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:48,240
Speaker 2: maybe thirty, close to thirty now or something a decent

3002
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:50,320
Speaker 2: amount of which we've written together with each other, and

3003
02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 2: a few we've written for other people together. And just

3004
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,680
Speaker 2: being able to be in rooms with those people, man,

3005
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:58,480
Speaker 2: is like, it's just that's my favorite thing to do.

3006
02:16:58,720 --> 02:17:02,040
Speaker 2: Is like to not like to go into a room

3007
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:05,400
Speaker 2: and know, I never think I'm the best guy in

3008
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:07,840
Speaker 2: the room, man, Like, that to me is the wrong attitude.

3009
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:10,320
Speaker 2: Like what can I learn from this person? How can

3010
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:12,760
Speaker 2: this person make me better? How can I be there?

3011
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:15,000
Speaker 2: Be there for them if they're not having their best

3012
02:17:15,080 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 2: day in the writing room, Like like, how can I

3013
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:19,400
Speaker 2: be a good team player? Man? And the thing I

3014
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 2: love about writing songs is it really is a collaborative thing.

3015
02:17:22,879 --> 02:17:24,680
Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of people who can write really

3016
02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:28,080
Speaker 2: great songs by themselves, you know, and I've done that myself,

3017
02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 2: but it's I like the process of us doing it together,

3018
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 2: man Like, that's the thing that I derive a lot

3019
02:17:34,480 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 2: of joy from because then we can all I guess

3020
02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:41,480
Speaker 2: back to the first record, man, my first seven singles,

3021
02:17:41,600 --> 02:17:43,959
Speaker 2: it was everyone that wrote on them's first number one song.

3022
02:17:44,920 --> 02:17:48,200
Speaker 2: And that's that's not just seven people, it's like fourteen people.

3023
02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:51,520
Speaker 2: So it's like everybody's break was like we did it all.

3024
02:17:51,640 --> 02:17:54,240
Speaker 2: We all did it together, you know, and that's the

3025
02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 2: that's like you can't even you know, you can't recreate that,

3026
02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:01,640
Speaker 2: man like because now all those people basically have full

3027
02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 2: time songwriting gigs and have written number one songs for

3028
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 2: other people. And that was like their break as much

3029
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:10,880
Speaker 2: as it was mine was getting and I take a

3030
02:18:10,920 --> 02:18:13,000
Speaker 2: lot of pride and I have a lot of joy,

3031
02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:17,560
Speaker 2: you know from being able to like not only make

3032
02:18:17,600 --> 02:18:20,720
Speaker 2: my own dreams come true, but help my friends accomplish

3033
02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:23,240
Speaker 2: their goals too, you know, because if we if we can't,

3034
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:24,960
Speaker 2: if we don't have each other, like what do we have?

3035
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:26,880
Speaker 2: You know, like doing it all by yourself would just

3036
02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:29,320
Speaker 2: be you know, be kind of like, well, who do

3037
02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 2: you even talk to about it? You know, like who

3038
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:33,640
Speaker 2: are you even excited? Who's even excited about it? If

3039
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 2: you don't have anybody to call and go? You know,

3040
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:37,680
Speaker 2: you have the number one party with your you know,

3041
02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 2: your best buddies in town. I mean that's like awesome.

3042
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's dream come true stuff. You know.

3043
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:47,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's been your aside from this album? It's been

3044
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 5: your favorite.

3045
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Album to write? Oh, Fathers and Sons for me, And

3046
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:54,680
Speaker 2: there's no question I don't think it will ever, you know,

3047
02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what I do. Man.

3048
02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:56,640
Speaker 4: Now.

3049
02:18:57,080 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 2: You know it's look like I have high blood pressure

3050
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:03,640
Speaker 2: and hang out with my kids, you know what I mean.

3051
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:05,440
Speaker 2: It's like that's kind of my deal right now.

3052
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:08,720
Speaker 1: And you know I love to tell you in too,

3053
02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:10,480
Speaker 1: with like the relationship you had with your dad.

3054
02:19:10,720 --> 02:19:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's like I mean, it's you know, it's

3055
02:19:13,160 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, parenting is is a difficult thing. You know.

3056
02:19:16,640 --> 02:19:19,960
Speaker 2: It's like there's no there's no playbook for it. I mean,

3057
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:22,800
Speaker 2: everybody's version of right and wrong ways of doing it

3058
02:19:22,879 --> 02:19:25,640
Speaker 2: are different, and how everybody approaches it is different. And

3059
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted my kids to know when

3060
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:32,080
Speaker 2: they're older, obviously even now, but even when I made

3061
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:35,000
Speaker 2: this record, not old enough to understand it. Like, my

3062
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 2: kids are just getting to like where they don't want

3063
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 2: me to go places before they just be like I'm

3064
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:41,640
Speaker 2: leaving and they're like, Okay, we'll get the fuck out

3065
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:44,080
Speaker 2: of here. Why are you telling me like I'm playing

3066
02:19:44,400 --> 02:19:48,760
Speaker 2: I'm playing magnetiles, dude, get like magnet so hard. Kids

3067
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:50,400
Speaker 2: all they want to do is smash them though, dude,

3068
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:54,600
Speaker 2: But they don't want to the ages of three and

3069
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:59,520
Speaker 2: a half, two and a half and do in a month. Congratulations, bro,

3070
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. Yes, I went with you on that.

3071
02:20:02,600 --> 02:20:03,960
Speaker 5: I have a three and a one year old, and

3072
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 5: a three year old is now like it's she gets

3073
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:08,440
Speaker 5: very heartbroken when you're leaving.

3074
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:11,440
Speaker 2: It sucks. My kids asked me all day because I

3075
02:20:11,560 --> 02:20:13,280
Speaker 2: was just in l A for a week doing some

3076
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:16,920
Speaker 2: album stuff and my oldest son text was like, he's

3077
02:20:16,959 --> 02:20:18,520
Speaker 2: like that, are you going to work today? And I

3078
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:19,840
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm going to work. He's like, are

3079
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:22,280
Speaker 2: you going to work on a plane And I was like, no,

3080
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm just going in my truck, buddy, I'm not. I'm

3081
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:26,240
Speaker 2: not getting on the plane. Like I'll be back.

3082
02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

3083
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,240
Speaker 2: He's worried that I'm like not going to be back.

3084
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3085
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:34,240
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, are you calling like we're build magnetiles, bro,

3086
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:36,920
Speaker 2: we are we doing airtubes or not? Like we're doing

3087
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:39,280
Speaker 2: air tubes you know. I'm like, yeah, man, we're doing

3088
02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 2: air tubes.

3089
02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:41,640
Speaker 1: I got an eight to five year old a little

3090
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:43,880
Speaker 1: bit older. Yeah, but we get in those magnetiles still

3091
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:44,360
Speaker 1: to this day.

3092
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:45,800
Speaker 2: I bet it. It's really wild.

3093
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:49,960
Speaker 1: You got a full skyscrapers going on farms and farms

3094
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:51,879
Speaker 1: we got wed yeah.

3095
02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:54,720
Speaker 2: We got like lions. Now we're starting to get into

3096
02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:56,840
Speaker 2: the more obscure magnetiles.

3097
02:20:56,240 --> 02:20:58,920
Speaker 10: Now, see I think, yeah, you know, to me, can

3098
02:20:58,959 --> 02:21:01,960
Speaker 10: I be honest with you, Yeah, kind of a waste magnetos, No,

3099
02:21:02,360 --> 02:21:05,840
Speaker 10: the little different theme because to me, it's like the

3100
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:09,160
Speaker 10: more that like mantos are a quantity over quality game,

3101
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:11,440
Speaker 10: Like you want as many magtels as possible. I want

3102
02:21:11,440 --> 02:21:14,440
Speaker 10: to make the biggest, tallest Yeah, I want to drive

3103
02:21:14,440 --> 02:21:17,920
Speaker 10: again building and when I have like little girl castle

3104
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 10: ones that kind of it's kind.

3105
02:21:18,840 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 5: Of throw It's like it's not like like unique shapes,

3106
02:21:22,959 --> 02:21:24,520
Speaker 5: just get just give us a square.

3107
02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Give me the big squares, give me the long squares.

3108
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:27,280
Speaker 1: I need the big squares.

3109
02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:30,360
Speaker 2: Triangles, Bro, why do we even have the triangles?

3110
02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:30,640
Speaker 7: Yeah?

3111
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 2: Terrible, terrible.

3112
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:36,360
Speaker 5: Then you gotta kind of like, yeah, you're like a

3113
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:39,320
Speaker 5: little bit like I want to do it. I'm like, sweetheart,

3114
02:21:39,400 --> 02:21:42,519
Speaker 5: just carefully lean this one into the point.

3115
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:42,960
Speaker 2: Of the other one.

3116
02:21:43,160 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3117
02:21:44,400 --> 02:21:47,720
Speaker 2: Like there's like the there's like the obtuse triangle that

3118
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:49,680
Speaker 2: doesn't even make a square when you put two of

3119
02:21:49,720 --> 02:21:52,320
Speaker 2: them together, and you're like why did they make these? Right?

3120
02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 2: And you think your all just make a cool little

3121
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:58,560
Speaker 2: like like long triangles are chill. Small triangles are chill.

3122
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:01,080
Speaker 2: But then there's the weird try angle that doesn't fit

3123
02:22:03,480 --> 02:22:06,800
Speaker 2: right there that one could make a square. It might

3124
02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 2: be the small ones I got because they don't. There's

3125
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:12,480
Speaker 2: ones that don't make a square. There's ones that don't

3126
02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:14,400
Speaker 2: make a square. That's I know, I'm not crazy. There's

3127
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:18,040
Speaker 2: ones that don't make a square, like the top right,

3128
02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:20,240
Speaker 2: but then the top of the castle. My kids just

3129
02:22:20,360 --> 02:22:22,560
Speaker 2: want to smash them. Yeah, they just want the tallest

3130
02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:24,280
Speaker 2: one I can make and then knock it over.

3131
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if your kids are too young for

3132
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:28,440
Speaker 1: this yet, but or how you were as a child,

3133
02:22:28,480 --> 02:22:31,240
Speaker 1: But I was big into legos. Legos. Were you give

3134
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:34,480
Speaker 1: adhd big time? You put me in a room with legos,

3135
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm good for two hours, yep.

3136
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:37,120
Speaker 2: I would love to get into that.

3137
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:38,520
Speaker 1: I was never like a Lego kid.

3138
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:39,640
Speaker 2: I was like Lincoln Logs.

3139
02:22:40,040 --> 02:22:42,160
Speaker 1: Lincoln Logs, there's only a fineite man of things you

3140
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:44,440
Speaker 1: can do with Lincoln Logs, Like you have the whole

3141
02:22:44,480 --> 02:22:46,400
Speaker 1: world at your feet. When it comes to legos especially,

3142
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:47,600
Speaker 1: they have like these same.

3143
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:49,880
Speaker 5: Right, like the very detailed like you could build like

3144
02:22:50,040 --> 02:22:54,359
Speaker 5: model like like you can build like the Death Star dude.

3145
02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:55,520
Speaker 2: The Millennial Falcon.

3146
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,120
Speaker 1: Dude. I have the Titanic. I've been working out for

3147
02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,160
Speaker 1: two years off and it's still.

3148
02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:03,400
Speaker 2: My manager has a Lego room in his house. Bro.

3149
02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:05,960
Speaker 1: Kind of dope, kind of dope, kind of dope.

3150
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:07,200
Speaker 2: I wish I had that much time.

3151
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:09,000
Speaker 1: But my kids are bigging than Harry Potter, so we

3152
02:23:09,080 --> 02:23:10,640
Speaker 1: do the Harry Potter one, the Lego one.

3153
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:13,000
Speaker 2: What I love about it, it's crazy.

3154
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 1: What I love about is they're into it, but they

3155
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,640
Speaker 1: they're only into it for thirty minutes and then they're like,

3156
02:23:17,879 --> 02:23:19,680
Speaker 1: do you mind, dad, if you finish this something like

3157
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:20,760
Speaker 1: and you I don't.

3158
02:23:20,560 --> 02:23:20,800
Speaker 3: You know what.

3159
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to do that, but I

3160
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:26,560
Speaker 2: will for the family, for the kid, this sacrifice for

3161
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:29,520
Speaker 2: the kid, the whole thing, just for the kids, you

3162
02:23:29,560 --> 02:23:32,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's what had How long is

3163
02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:37,680
Speaker 2: that taking you to build a room by myself? A day?

3164
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:39,959
Speaker 2: A day at least if you have the whole day.

3165
02:23:40,240 --> 02:23:42,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, way longer than that. I'm saying three to

3166
02:23:42,959 --> 02:23:46,200
Speaker 1: five days. Three to five is the magic number of

3167
02:23:46,280 --> 02:23:48,280
Speaker 1: this this day. Yeah.

3168
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:54,520
Speaker 2: For the snow coming up, there's snow coming up. Oh.

3169
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:56,080
Speaker 1: We had a full conversation about it.

3170
02:23:56,120 --> 02:23:57,959
Speaker 2: The are you a snow day guy? Oh, I love

3171
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:01,560
Speaker 2: a snow snow that's a good that's a clean take.

3172
02:24:01,720 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a clean Everyone likes h snow day, no doubt. Yeah,

3173
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. How do you feel about

3174
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:09,000
Speaker 1: snow after two weeks?

3175
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:13,240
Speaker 2: You see you're a Michigan guy, so no, Hey, he's

3176
02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:16,520
Speaker 2: an Arizona boy in Arizona. But what what were we

3177
02:24:16,640 --> 02:24:18,039
Speaker 2: thinking of snow days in Michigan?

3178
02:24:18,240 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking I want to put a gun in

3179
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:20,720
Speaker 1: my mouth, like.

3180
02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're like brutal. This is Yeah. They can't

3181
02:24:24,600 --> 02:24:28,560
Speaker 2: change it, dude, because that one day awesome? Yeah, day

3182
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:34,959
Speaker 2: two back to school, bro, get out. I'm done sledd

3183
02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:39,119
Speaker 2: and it's cold. Your mom's tired, I'm tired, clean nobody

3184
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:39,680
Speaker 2: wants to go.

3185
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:44,560
Speaker 1: JP brought up a good He's like, three to five

3186
02:24:44,720 --> 02:24:47,840
Speaker 1: days of snow is the move because I get with

3187
02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:50,320
Speaker 1: the kids. How excited they get you the snowman. You

3188
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:52,360
Speaker 1: go on the sleds yep. But then we got to

3189
02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:53,959
Speaker 1: go back in the house. We can take the boots off.

3190
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:55,520
Speaker 1: I have to got fifteen layers and we got to

3191
02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:57,560
Speaker 1: put fifteen layers back on to go back outside.

3192
02:24:57,600 --> 02:24:59,400
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, and not to mention you're only outside

3193
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,600
Speaker 2: for like twenty min Yeah, but they can't the second

3194
02:25:01,640 --> 02:25:04,240
Speaker 2: there's snow in the pants or in the shirt moment

3195
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:07,760
Speaker 2: to come just crying their hands. They don't want their

3196
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:09,400
Speaker 2: gloves on, but their hands are cold.

3197
02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:10,600
Speaker 1: Right, and they don't know that.

3198
02:25:10,879 --> 02:25:11,080
Speaker 8: And the.

3199
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:15,440
Speaker 2: House. Yeah, if having the gloves on, my hands will

3200
02:25:15,480 --> 02:25:17,080
Speaker 2: be cold. But I'm magined my hands are cold, but

3201
02:25:17,080 --> 02:25:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm also mags have gloves on. You can't win, dude.

3202
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 1: So obviously you're very familiar with the transfer.

3203
02:25:22,120 --> 02:25:23,880
Speaker 2: Portal, yes, and how it all works.

3204
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:27,360
Speaker 1: Yes, if the transfer portal existed in two thousand and nine,

3205
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 1: my freshman year of college, that first snowfall, I would

3206
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:34,440
Speaker 1: be gone. Yeah, I would be a portal guy.

3207
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:38,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's freshman year two thousand and nine, so

3208
02:25:38,120 --> 02:25:42,560
Speaker 2: we're same age then, thirty four, thirty five, thirty six.

3209
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:47,520
Speaker 2: I'll be thirty six next month, so have not the

3210
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:50,600
Speaker 2: same age. Those are your okay, graduate high school and

3211
02:25:50,879 --> 02:25:55,600
Speaker 2: nine graduate high school. Okay, I'm wait I was eight Yeah, eite, baby,

3212
02:25:56,000 --> 02:26:01,640
Speaker 2: keeping it alive. Yeah, soon, there's not many of us left,

3213
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:08,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean yeah, yeah, he's just quickly

3214
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:11,080
Speaker 2: approaching the day when people are like, man, dude, my

3215
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:14,760
Speaker 2: dad was one of the nineteen hundreds. Bro, that's not

3216
02:26:14,840 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Dude. We're gonna be those guys. Yeah, our

3217
02:26:17,560 --> 02:26:19,080
Speaker 2: kids are gonna be like, dude, I can't believe that

3218
02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:22,280
Speaker 2: guy was around in nineteen hundred, like nineteen ninety, that

3219
02:26:22,360 --> 02:26:26,520
Speaker 2: guy was old. Yeah, that's that weird. It is old.

3220
02:26:26,800 --> 02:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I see things on Instagram where they go up to

3221
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:31,040
Speaker 1: kids like, hey, how old is old? If like, oh,

3222
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 1: if you're born in two thousand year old, it's like

3223
02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:36,160
Speaker 1: two thousand, Yes, that was nine.

3224
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:38,880
Speaker 2: Damn twenty five. They think twenty five is old.

3225
02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:41,400
Speaker 1: I guess so, man, these kids just you know, these

3226
02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:45,240
Speaker 1: kids are lost generation is what they protecting their.

3227
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:47,200
Speaker 2: Brains from concussions.

3228
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Dude, believing in concussion believe it was unbelievable.

3229
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just crazy word dude, dude. Yeah, it's great.

3230
02:26:55,200 --> 02:27:00,200
Speaker 2: And also Will was born in eighty nine, oh, nineteen

3231
02:27:00,320 --> 02:27:02,600
Speaker 2: eighty nine. Yeah, then I feel discussed.

3232
02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:04,240
Speaker 1: It does.

3233
02:27:04,560 --> 02:27:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels antique. Yes, you're vintage a lot of patina,

3234
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean, yeah, patina wild.

3235
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyway, man, yeah, I get snow days are

3236
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:18,560
Speaker 1: I love snow days as soon as we get to

3237
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:19,320
Speaker 1: do snow week.

3238
02:27:19,360 --> 02:27:23,200
Speaker 2: Wow, snow weeks tough. In Nashville. It's it's a snow week, dude,

3239
02:27:23,240 --> 02:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Like they're shutting down like Michigan there like whatever, let's

3240
02:27:26,360 --> 02:27:30,879
Speaker 2: just get it to work, dude, no doubt. Well Boon

3241
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:31,520
Speaker 2: was the same way.

3242
02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:31,720
Speaker 3: Man.

3243
02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:32,880
Speaker 2: It was like if it snowed up there, it was

3244
02:27:32,879 --> 02:27:34,840
Speaker 2: like big whoop, dude, you get the class. Yeah. Yeah,

3245
02:27:34,959 --> 02:27:37,920
Speaker 2: unless the buses couldn't run. Spoiler alert. If you're going

3246
02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:42,720
Speaker 2: to Upstate, the buses always can run. The genetically engineered

3247
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:45,560
Speaker 2: the buses to always run, and so you're never getting

3248
02:27:45,560 --> 02:27:46,760
Speaker 2: any snow days up there.

3249
02:27:46,959 --> 02:27:48,720
Speaker 1: So your freshman year of college was eight.

3250
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:51,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's coming next, don't you.

3251
02:27:52,120 --> 02:27:55,119
Speaker 1: I know what's coming. That was actually my senior year

3252
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:57,959
Speaker 1: of high school rather get it actually really worst part

3253
02:27:57,959 --> 02:27:58,120
Speaker 1: of it.

3254
02:27:58,560 --> 02:28:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've got the jersey what what the

3255
02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:09,080
Speaker 2: one what jersey ARMANI Edwards game jersey? No way. Yeah.

3256
02:28:09,640 --> 02:28:16,160
Speaker 2: See that's a real crazy tail hold in the jersey smiling.

3257
02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like brought that up, like I went to State.

3258
02:28:19,879 --> 02:28:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I was in high school now.

3259
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:23,959
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna say anything. You knew. You knew.

3260
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:26,520
Speaker 1: You brought it up, said you said, oh you were

3261
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:28,880
Speaker 1: a Michigan guy. I see your hand. You get a

3262
02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:31,920
Speaker 1: beautiful brain. Your brain still functions fully, and I can keep.

3263
02:28:31,879 --> 02:28:32,160
Speaker 2: Up with that.

3264
02:28:33,440 --> 02:28:34,280
Speaker 1: I could keep up with it.

3265
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:38,320
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's in like it's it was inevitable,

3266
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:41,080
Speaker 2: it was going to happen. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't

3267
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:43,120
Speaker 2: have said anything. Were you were, Like, were you a

3268
02:28:43,160 --> 02:28:45,880
Speaker 2: big F state college football fan? I was, yeah, because

3269
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:48,360
Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to go to school there. Did

3270
02:28:48,440 --> 02:28:52,480
Speaker 2: you know Jeremy Kimbro, Yeah he was playing there. Yeah

3271
02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:55,720
Speaker 2: he was undrafted. He was on the Redskins with me.

3272
02:28:55,840 --> 02:28:58,520
Speaker 5: But dude, he was He was a dude, Yeah he's

3273
02:28:58,760 --> 02:29:00,200
Speaker 5: I think he works on it like a nast car

3274
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 5: pit crew.

3275
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Now a lot of those guys do.

3276
02:29:04,400 --> 02:29:07,080
Speaker 5: He was like, maybe he might have like the career

3277
02:29:07,160 --> 02:29:09,280
Speaker 5: record for Tag, there's a chance it was a monster.

3278
02:29:10,280 --> 02:29:12,920
Speaker 2: He was. We've had some We've had some good players

3279
02:29:12,920 --> 02:29:16,760
Speaker 2: in and out. Man, that the transfer portal era has

3280
02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:19,880
Speaker 2: really crushed a school like ours. Man, it's really tough,

3281
02:29:20,200 --> 02:29:24,040
Speaker 2: like you have to become ready. I wouldn't say I

3282
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:27,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't go that far, you know, but it's it's like,

3283
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know now, it's before it was like you

3284
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:36,160
Speaker 2: get all these undersize, under recruited guys and it was listen,

3285
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:39,199
Speaker 2: I love that the guys can put money. Oh my god,

3286
02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:42,800
Speaker 2: it's beautiful, dude, Jesus. And it's just you see it

3287
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:44,520
Speaker 2: in the fall, Dude, it is even crazier.

3288
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Put that thing in the fall for me, buddy.

3289
02:29:46,879 --> 02:29:48,680
Speaker 2: You don't even have to AI at some places, you

3290
02:29:48,720 --> 02:29:51,560
Speaker 2: don't even have to aig. It's that beautiful, dude.

3291
02:29:52,600 --> 02:29:53,040
Speaker 1: That's real.

3292
02:29:53,400 --> 02:29:57,080
Speaker 2: That's real. Yeah, that's a real spot. And uh, it

3293
02:29:57,200 --> 02:29:59,240
Speaker 2: was great going to school there. So then the Michigan

3294
02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:01,640
Speaker 2: game was my scene year of high school and I

3295
02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:03,880
Speaker 2: was I knew I was. I was trying to go

3296
02:30:03,920 --> 02:30:05,720
Speaker 2: to app I didn't know if I was like gonna

3297
02:30:05,720 --> 02:30:08,560
Speaker 2: get in or not. Yeah, there's the baseball field insane.

3298
02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:11,120
Speaker 1: That filter, that's a crazy filter.

3299
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:16,560
Speaker 2: But it's been The transfer thing has really hurt us, man,

3300
02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:18,440
Speaker 2: because we don't have a ton of like there's not

3301
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 2: a ton of money coming in and out school. I'm

3302
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,640
Speaker 2: not donating. I'm not donating. I feel like I need

3303
02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 2: some concessions. What do you want? I need some assurances.

3304
02:30:29,480 --> 02:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Were you giving someone a good chunk dude to come

3305
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:34,039
Speaker 2: there for a season.

3306
02:30:35,320 --> 02:30:37,920
Speaker 1: A podcast right now and an app state person might

3307
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:41,200
Speaker 1: come across this clip right now for you to donate

3308
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:44,840
Speaker 1: to applash the state. What do you what do you need?

3309
02:30:46,360 --> 02:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Player contracts?

3310
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Two years? Gotta have it, two years, gotta have it,

3311
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:51,280
Speaker 1: guarantee you have to have it.

3312
02:30:51,800 --> 02:30:55,880
Speaker 2: One year is not enough because if they got well,

3313
02:30:55,920 --> 02:30:58,360
Speaker 2: it's not even that, it's more like but.

3314
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Knowing it's likes so wild wild thing.

3315
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 2: That's weird to think about, man getting into some dicey water.

3316
02:31:11,360 --> 02:31:11,520
Speaker 1: There.

3317
02:31:12,959 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 2: But listen, Yeah, dude, I'm freaking out there there paid

3318
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:24,560
Speaker 2: for close. Those eyes are, dude, are so close. It's crazy, dude.

3319
02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:28,520
Speaker 2: But dude, I love I mean, I'm die hard at Man.

3320
02:31:28,560 --> 02:31:31,120
Speaker 2: We had a really tough season this season, the worst

3321
02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:34,400
Speaker 2: season I've seen in a long time. And I just

3322
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:37,959
Speaker 2: don't know. I just don't know that in the portal

3323
02:31:38,200 --> 02:31:40,920
Speaker 2: era that we're in now that a school like us

3324
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:43,160
Speaker 2: and this is gonna be such a hot take. I'm

3325
02:31:43,160 --> 02:31:45,959
Speaker 2: gonna get absolutely viserty to buy our fans. I would

3326
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 2: love to see us go back down to FCS because

3327
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:52,520
Speaker 2: then there's a chance that you win a national championship.

3328
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean, your best. The best thing that can happen

3329
02:31:55,879 --> 02:31:58,920
Speaker 2: to us is get beat by Oregon by fifty points, Bud.

3330
02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:00,760
Speaker 2: That's that you and singing.

3331
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:02,440
Speaker 1: You were singing to me right now.

3332
02:32:03,680 --> 02:32:07,600
Speaker 2: It's the best thing we got, dude, is State won,

3333
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:11,240
Speaker 2: like w don't it barely?

3334
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:13,000
Speaker 5: That was barely, dude.

3335
02:32:13,360 --> 02:32:16,080
Speaker 2: That's not even a highlight of the season, dude. Or

3336
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:20,240
Speaker 2: he got a G five playoff, right, which is get

3337
02:32:20,360 --> 02:32:23,800
Speaker 2: beat by Oregon by sixty points. But I'm saying five

3338
02:32:23,879 --> 02:32:26,840
Speaker 2: had their own playoff. I've been preaching this for a while.

3339
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Group of five like can make it a whole different

3340
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:33,000
Speaker 2: league basically, Yeah, group of five national champion, power five

3341
02:32:33,120 --> 02:32:36,080
Speaker 2: national champion something five.

3342
02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 1: They hate it too. He's there like one of us

3343
02:32:40,120 --> 02:32:41,760
Speaker 1: is saying this, which breaks there.

3344
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 2: No, it's and listen, dude, it would be cool and

3345
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 2: it brings. But the the amount of pr that we

3346
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:51,080
Speaker 2: got from winning those three national championships at the FCS

3347
02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 2: level and the Michigan game is huge, Dude. That was

3348
02:32:56,080 --> 02:32:59,720
Speaker 2: so going in to that year, Like I think app

3349
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:01,680
Speaker 2: State it was the hardest school in North Carolina to

3350
02:33:01,720 --> 02:33:05,039
Speaker 2: get in behind Duke that year because so many people

3351
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:07,320
Speaker 2: applied and wanted to go to school there just because

3352
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:10,920
Speaker 2: of those games. And now to know that we won't

3353
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:14,000
Speaker 2: have those games anymore where it won't like we won't

3354
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:16,800
Speaker 2: ever get to touch or taste that thing, and that

3355
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:20,240
Speaker 2: was enough for me. I love that we are Division one.

3356
02:33:20,360 --> 02:33:23,200
Speaker 2: It's cool to me, Like, I'm so proud to have

3357
02:33:23,360 --> 02:33:25,080
Speaker 2: went to school there and I want to be a

3358
02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:29,600
Speaker 2: part of that. But I mean, like again, dude, like

3359
02:33:29,800 --> 02:33:32,879
Speaker 2: I think that sometimes, like people think I'm Jeff Bezos too,

3360
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:36,680
Speaker 2: like where they're like, dude, give us ten million dollars

3361
02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:40,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like what, I'm like, who do you eat?

3362
02:33:40,400 --> 02:33:43,879
Speaker 2: The Hold on a second, dude, let's reevaluate the thing.

3363
02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you show you showed me a full bick account there.

3364
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:48,400
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, we're not. This is crazy.

3365
02:33:48,560 --> 02:33:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about like ten thousand? We think about that?

3366
02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:54,400
Speaker 2: Does that get you going or what? You know? I mean,

3367
02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:57,040
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean I would want to, but it

3368
02:33:57,040 --> 02:33:59,800
Speaker 2: would be really hard to know that, you know, the

3369
02:34:00,200 --> 02:34:03,840
Speaker 2: the the players that you're helping are also going to

3370
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:07,840
Speaker 2: ultimately leave because you know, you think about I mean,

3371
02:34:07,879 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 2: app State doesn't win three national championships in the poor

3372
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:13,119
Speaker 2: l Era, They win one and then all the players

3373
02:34:13,240 --> 02:34:15,160
Speaker 2: leave and go somewhere else, and then you start over.

3374
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 2: We start over every single year. Dude, who's even on

3375
02:34:18,920 --> 02:34:21,520
Speaker 2: the team. They don't even know any of the guys

3376
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:23,960
Speaker 2: on the team. There's like two guys from last season

3377
02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:26,840
Speaker 2: on the whole team. And how do you develop? Like

3378
02:34:26,879 --> 02:34:30,360
Speaker 2: how does your fan base not feel robbed every single year?

3379
02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:33,440
Speaker 2: And not that they're doing anything that anyone else isn't doing.

3380
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:36,440
Speaker 2: It's it's like that everywhere, even at the bigger schools.

3381
02:34:36,480 --> 02:34:39,280
Speaker 2: It's like one guy gets mad at his position coach

3382
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:41,000
Speaker 2: and doesn't get to play one game with the fucking

3383
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm transferring then, Like what kind of precedent is that

3384
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:46,160
Speaker 2: setting for these kids too? Man? Like that that's not

3385
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:48,640
Speaker 2: the way life works, dude, Like it's just not a

3386
02:34:48,720 --> 02:34:52,160
Speaker 2: sustainable model for even the rest of your life, let

3387
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:55,000
Speaker 2: alone your football career. You know. But it's the I mean,

3388
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:56,880
Speaker 2: it's the I mean, that's the world we live in

3389
02:34:57,000 --> 02:34:58,360
Speaker 2: right now. So you got to figure it out. But

3390
02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:01,440
Speaker 2: I think there does need to be some something needs

3391
02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:03,800
Speaker 2: to change at some point. And when when that changes,

3392
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, your preacher right now, it's

3393
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:09,400
Speaker 2: a bigger conversation, you know, So I'd you become a

3394
02:35:09,959 --> 02:35:14,800
Speaker 2: how'd you become a a Georgia fan? I'm not. You know,

3395
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:17,320
Speaker 2: there's a big misconception that I'm a Georgia fan, that

3396
02:35:17,400 --> 02:35:21,720
Speaker 2: I have sec allegiances. I don't have any particular address.

3397
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:26,680
Speaker 1: These by a Georgia bulldog. Wow, you were Georgia.

3398
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Interesting. That's interesting. I'm trying to cause I've been waiting

3399
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:36,360
Speaker 2: to go public with this for a long time. And listen,

3400
02:35:36,440 --> 02:35:39,560
Speaker 2: my kids, they can go to school wherever they want,

3401
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:42,000
Speaker 2: as long as it's app state, they can go there.

3402
02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:44,400
Speaker 2: Enough they will be going there whether they like it

3403
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:47,360
Speaker 2: or not. But say my children do go to another

3404
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:50,360
Speaker 2: school against my own, will you know which there would

3405
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:52,360
Speaker 2: be allowed to if it came down to it. But

3406
02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:57,000
Speaker 2: I feel like i'm as a as a young fan.

3407
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm diehard Carolina Panthers guy. That's my thing. It has

3408
02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:05,080
Speaker 2: been forever. I'm five years old. I'm living in Charlotte

3409
02:36:05,120 --> 02:36:07,480
Speaker 2: when they become a team, right, like, I am washed

3410
02:36:07,520 --> 02:36:09,640
Speaker 2: in the blood of the Panthers. It just has to

3411
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 2: be that way. Yeah, and there was there's no going back.

3412
02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:16,160
Speaker 2: But I didn't have growing up in North Carolina. You

3413
02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:19,680
Speaker 2: don't really my dad. My dad liked NFL he's from Ohio.

3414
02:36:19,920 --> 02:36:22,760
Speaker 2: He liked the Browns and the Browns went away and

3415
02:36:22,840 --> 02:36:25,200
Speaker 2: he became a Panthers fan when the Panthers became a team.

3416
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:28,400
Speaker 2: So we did it. My dad didn't go to college

3417
02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:31,680
Speaker 2: and my mom went to Western Carolina for like a semester,

3418
02:36:32,160 --> 02:36:33,400
Speaker 2: so I didn't have a lot of this. So we

3419
02:36:33,480 --> 02:36:36,560
Speaker 2: didn't have like I didn't have this big like power

3420
02:36:36,720 --> 02:36:40,200
Speaker 2: five thing in our house where it was like a

3421
02:36:40,280 --> 02:36:42,640
Speaker 2: house divided, like you know, like we didn't have that.

3422
02:36:43,360 --> 02:36:44,920
Speaker 2: So I did to create that on my own, which

3423
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:47,160
Speaker 2: is I'm an app state guy, ride or die, no

3424
02:36:47,280 --> 02:36:50,440
Speaker 2: matter what. But it's like I almost feel like I've

3425
02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:52,920
Speaker 2: been like where do I want my kids to be?

3426
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Like I want my kids to have a chance to

3427
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:57,440
Speaker 2: win a Nattie as a fan, Like how do I

3428
02:36:57,520 --> 02:36:57,720
Speaker 2: do that?

3429
02:36:57,800 --> 02:36:57,840
Speaker 3: With?

3430
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:03,600
Speaker 2: Who do you pick? It's like everyone has been so

3431
02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:07,640
Speaker 2: great to us. We played games everywhere, and you know,

3432
02:37:07,760 --> 02:37:10,680
Speaker 2: it's hard to kind of like it's scary to pick

3433
02:37:10,760 --> 02:37:12,800
Speaker 2: one because then you're there, you know what I mean.

3434
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:14,560
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's time, like my kids are

3435
02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:16,760
Speaker 2: gonna like football in the next like two or three years,

3436
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:19,680
Speaker 2: and like I can just getting afraid of the light

3437
02:37:19,720 --> 02:37:21,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel as it creeps ever

3438
02:37:21,560 --> 02:37:26,360
Speaker 2: closer to being like, we are this fan of this thing, right,

3439
02:37:26,879 --> 02:37:29,200
Speaker 2: and they're not gonna all they know We've been a fan.

3440
02:37:29,280 --> 02:37:31,400
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of my whole life, you know

3441
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:32,640
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like I want them to have

3442
02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:36,680
Speaker 2: that experience of like going to a game, you know

3443
02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:41,080
Speaker 2: at you know, Sanford Stadium or wherever, the big house

3444
02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:43,600
Speaker 2: and like feeling like a part of that. I've been

3445
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:45,520
Speaker 2: to a ton of those games, but I'm not, like,

3446
02:37:46,959 --> 02:37:49,000
Speaker 2: it's not the same as if you go and you've

3447
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:51,320
Speaker 2: been a Michigan Van your whole life. But like, I

3448
02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:54,800
Speaker 2: want that for my kids because I didn't have that

3449
02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:58,080
Speaker 2: same thing. I had the app State thing that was

3450
02:37:58,120 --> 02:38:00,320
Speaker 2: beautiful and it was I wouldn't trade it for the world.

3451
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:02,840
Speaker 2: And my kids will be at State fans, no choice.

3452
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:06,160
Speaker 2: But like, but you ain't winning a Natty at f State,

3453
02:38:08,120 --> 02:38:08,800
Speaker 2: It's right?

3454
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3455
02:38:10,840 --> 02:38:13,320
Speaker 2: Is that where Georgia came in at What's the Dress?

3456
02:38:13,400 --> 02:38:14,960
Speaker 2: I got? So one of my best friends in the

3457
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:20,039
Speaker 2: world was a grad assistant at Georgia. We wrote When

3458
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:22,080
Speaker 2: It Rains the Ports together. We've written a couple of

3459
02:38:22,160 --> 02:38:24,720
Speaker 2: number ones together. SAME's ray Fulcher you guys may have

3460
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:26,480
Speaker 2: run across. And he's a great dude who lives here

3461
02:38:26,520 --> 02:38:30,080
Speaker 2: in town and he was a he was a student

3462
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 2: assistant there like when like Stafford was there, Uh, like

3463
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,320
Speaker 2: David Pollock years and that kind of stuff. So he's like,

3464
02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:40,000
Speaker 2: what do you jump in front of a bus for

3465
02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:43,560
Speaker 2: Kirby smart? Like right now if I called him, I

3466
02:38:43,680 --> 02:38:46,560
Speaker 2: was like, dude, Kirby's Kirby's gonna flat tires and he's

3467
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:50,200
Speaker 2: in Miami. He's like, I'm driving, I'm there, Like he

3468
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:54,560
Speaker 2: is absolutely in and uh. But like just seeing people

3469
02:38:54,600 --> 02:38:56,920
Speaker 2: that have that passion for that, and I've I've just

3470
02:38:57,040 --> 02:38:59,640
Speaker 2: inherently like become friends with a lot of people who

3471
02:38:59,720 --> 02:39:03,720
Speaker 2: are our big time Georgia fans. And so ultimately, like

3472
02:39:03,800 --> 02:39:05,800
Speaker 2: we did, I did a show in Athens this year

3473
02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:09,360
Speaker 2: for I have a sponsorship with Columbia Sportswear, and I

3474
02:39:09,440 --> 02:39:12,440
Speaker 2: did an underplay at the Georgia Theater this year like

3475
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:15,000
Speaker 2: a surprise show, like we announced it the morning of

3476
02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:19,480
Speaker 2: the show, uh, and then did College Game Day. Actually

3477
02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:22,360
Speaker 2: Bailey Zimmerman was the musical guest, but I was in town,

3478
02:39:22,480 --> 02:39:25,200
Speaker 2: so we came into a song we have together for

3479
02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:28,680
Speaker 2: that and I've had some great, great memories in Athens. Man,

3480
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:31,840
Speaker 2: it is a really fun town. But I'm getting down

3481
02:39:31,879 --> 02:39:33,480
Speaker 2: to like Heaven depict and I feel like I'm gonna

3482
02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:36,720
Speaker 2: have to like make an announcement at some point. I

3483
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:39,920
Speaker 2: am this fan, dude, you know what I mean? Like

3484
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:45,320
Speaker 2: do I need like do we need the hats out? So,

3485
02:39:45,480 --> 02:39:47,480
Speaker 2: like I know I'm gonna have that APP state hat on.

3486
02:39:47,879 --> 02:39:51,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be known that that's number one. Dude, Like, hope,

3487
02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:53,119
Speaker 2: hope whoever team doesn't.

3488
02:39:52,879 --> 02:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Play APP, right, this is your giving my kids, Hope.

3489
02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:59,080
Speaker 2: This is like giving my kids Like it's like like

3490
02:39:59,440 --> 02:40:02,840
Speaker 2: SEC Big ten kind of like that whole thing. Give

3491
02:40:02,879 --> 02:40:03,800
Speaker 2: them that experience.

3492
02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Do you lean one way or the other on SEC

3493
02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:07,400
Speaker 1: or Big ten? And we're just have this. This is

3494
02:40:07,480 --> 02:40:09,840
Speaker 1: now gone from a podcast. We're just thinking about what's

3495
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:10,600
Speaker 1: best for your children.

3496
02:40:11,560 --> 02:40:13,720
Speaker 2: What I and what it feels too, is your your

3497
02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:16,039
Speaker 2: a state number one ride or die? But now you're

3498
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:20,120
Speaker 2: trying to choose a fandom of who could potentially win

3499
02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:23,800
Speaker 2: a national title in their lives. I'm not going to

3500
02:40:23,840 --> 02:40:25,680
Speaker 2: be the guy that's like I'm gonna just who's winning

3501
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:27,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. Let's just be fans of them

3502
02:40:28,560 --> 02:40:30,760
Speaker 2: like I want him to have some misery. They need

3503
02:40:30,879 --> 02:40:32,040
Speaker 2: some misery in their lives.

3504
02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:35,880
Speaker 1: Let me introduce you to the twenty twenty five Michigan Wolf. Okay,

3505
02:40:37,600 --> 02:40:43,360
Speaker 1: that's that's right, that's your school right there. Three head

3506
02:40:43,440 --> 02:40:46,280
Speaker 1: coach leaves a bunch of allegations of whether they cheated

3507
02:40:46,360 --> 02:40:48,360
Speaker 1: or a lot of things going on. Bad year seven

3508
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:51,280
Speaker 1: and five, we get the number one quarterback in the

3509
02:40:51,480 --> 02:40:53,600
Speaker 1: all of college football or a high school football. They

3510
02:40:53,600 --> 02:40:55,800
Speaker 1: say he's the greatest thing of all time. He has

3511
02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:58,160
Speaker 1: an underwhelming year this year. Turns out he never had

3512
02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:02,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback coach. Head coach allegedly having an affair with

3513
02:41:02,400 --> 02:41:03,600
Speaker 1: somebody wild stuff.

3514
02:41:03,680 --> 02:41:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3515
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:09,280
Speaker 1: He Kyle Whittingham from Utah, who spent twenty seven years

3516
02:41:09,320 --> 02:41:12,480
Speaker 1: as the head coach of Utah, comes over, retains his roster,

3517
02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:15,440
Speaker 1: has a top sixteen portal. I think they just came

3518
02:41:15,480 --> 02:41:18,200
Speaker 1: out with a number eleven overall roster, one of the

3519
02:41:18,200 --> 02:41:19,440
Speaker 1: youngest teams in the Big Ten.

3520
02:41:19,959 --> 02:41:21,640
Speaker 2: Saying there's hope.

3521
02:41:21,520 --> 02:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying there's hope. I'm not saying there's hope. I'm

3522
02:41:23,800 --> 02:41:24,640
Speaker 1: saying there's opportunity.

3523
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:26,600
Speaker 2: There's no way I'm not getting boot out of that

3524
02:41:26,680 --> 02:41:29,280
Speaker 2: stadium because I'm showing up in app stuff every game.

3525
02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:30,960
Speaker 2: I can never get over it.

3526
02:41:31,120 --> 02:41:31,400
Speaker 1: That's it.

3527
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:33,320
Speaker 2: They've ruined it, like they've ruined it.

3528
02:41:33,600 --> 02:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, you know what, that's probably best you're

3529
02:41:36,040 --> 02:41:39,360
Speaker 1: not with us because when he said you're getting boot out, like, yeah,

3530
02:41:39,360 --> 02:41:41,879
Speaker 1: he's probably right that stadium.

3531
02:41:41,640 --> 02:41:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, you'd be a good corn Husker. You

3532
02:41:44,320 --> 02:41:47,040
Speaker 2: thinks so a good corn Husk. So I feel like

3533
02:41:47,160 --> 02:41:49,720
Speaker 2: right now, my biggest the thing against me is time

3534
02:41:50,240 --> 02:41:53,960
Speaker 2: and accessibility to games, you know what I mean? Like

3535
02:41:54,600 --> 02:41:59,080
Speaker 2: I live in Tennessee, Like my kids are from Tennessee. Yeah,

3536
02:41:59,280 --> 02:42:01,280
Speaker 2: do they need to be NAE fans? Like that's where

3537
02:42:01,280 --> 02:42:06,560
Speaker 2: they grew up? Like I think, what school erbil guy?

3538
02:42:06,760 --> 02:42:09,440
Speaker 2: Some more of a public school guy though, I like that,

3539
02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:12,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like a college basketball.

3540
02:42:13,720 --> 02:42:14,400
Speaker 1: That's public school.

3541
02:42:16,280 --> 02:42:20,800
Speaker 2: Because I'm basketball tar Heels guy growing up in North Carolina.

3542
02:42:20,840 --> 02:42:24,400
Speaker 2: You gotta pick. You're Carolina, your dude in C State

3543
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:29,199
Speaker 2: sometimes allegedly sometimes you gotta pick. So there's Carolina basketball

3544
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:31,840
Speaker 2: already get ripped apart by that fans just because there's

3545
02:42:31,920 --> 02:42:34,120
Speaker 2: pictures of me and the Carolina stuff, you know what

3546
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean. I get shredded for that. But proximity. We're

3547
02:42:37,400 --> 02:42:39,280
Speaker 2: pitching the UK. Now we're getting some pitches.

3548
02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:43,520
Speaker 1: I think we're just stowing up, helping the plane store.

3549
02:42:44,040 --> 02:42:44,640
Speaker 2: Vandy is the home.

3550
02:42:45,040 --> 02:42:46,680
Speaker 5: Vandy is still the hometown squad. I think of the

3551
02:42:46,720 --> 02:42:49,720
Speaker 5: amount of games you can take the kiddos too, and they're.

3552
02:42:49,560 --> 02:42:51,160
Speaker 2: On the come up. But they're on the come up.

3553
02:42:51,280 --> 02:42:55,440
Speaker 1: Allegedly, leg they slipped the kid down the street star kid?

3554
02:42:55,520 --> 02:42:55,880
Speaker 1: Who was that?

3555
02:42:56,680 --> 02:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Georgia, Georgia? He was at Georgia. Man, what an interesting

3556
02:43:00,120 --> 02:43:02,120
Speaker 2: thing that is. What do you think would be a

3557
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:06,840
Speaker 2: good one too? Though, Tennessee an arrow right got to be.

3558
02:43:07,840 --> 02:43:09,680
Speaker 2: But how do you work that out? Like, let's say

3559
02:43:09,720 --> 02:43:13,080
Speaker 2: you've already given a kid a bunch of money or something.

3560
02:43:13,720 --> 02:43:15,720
Speaker 2: I don't even know how this works. Let's say allegedly

3561
02:43:15,840 --> 02:43:17,800
Speaker 2: you give this high school kid a bunch of money's

3562
02:43:17,800 --> 02:43:21,760
Speaker 2: in high school, and then he de commits on signing day,

3563
02:43:23,000 --> 02:43:24,960
Speaker 2: Like does he owe you the money back?

3564
02:43:25,320 --> 02:43:25,360
Speaker 3: Like?

3565
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:26,520
Speaker 2: How does that work?

3566
02:43:26,600 --> 02:43:28,320
Speaker 1: I think he's got to sign first before you give

3567
02:43:28,360 --> 02:43:31,840
Speaker 1: him the money. Yeah, but this day and age.

3568
02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:33,920
Speaker 2: And then flip.

3569
02:43:35,040 --> 02:43:38,080
Speaker 1: I think the more getting close to that, like where

3570
02:43:38,080 --> 02:43:41,959
Speaker 1: we're holding it in kids, the whole thing, volunteers might

3571
02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:42,520
Speaker 1: be your team.

3572
02:43:43,920 --> 02:43:46,199
Speaker 2: They're close, they're close, three hours away.

3573
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:50,600
Speaker 1: They're not a team. They haven't won.

3574
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:55,920
Speaker 2: Right quarterback this year, Appstate guy Joey Aguilar, Yeah, Upstate

3575
02:43:56,000 --> 02:44:00,640
Speaker 2: guy had a pretty good season. He did well. Wow, really,

3576
02:44:01,160 --> 02:44:04,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we're getting fancy. I'm getting you're getting recruited.

3577
02:44:05,080 --> 02:44:06,720
Speaker 2: He's getting recruited, getting recruited.

3578
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:08,720
Speaker 1: Every time he talked about how ugly you are, Jackson,

3579
02:44:09,280 --> 02:44:09,760
Speaker 1: no way, he.

3580
02:44:09,800 --> 02:44:14,080
Speaker 2: Was like, it's like, it's all about how you present yourself.

3581
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:19,360
Speaker 2: He's trying to get me like a little Jackson's as

3582
02:44:19,360 --> 02:44:23,040
Speaker 2: a Jackson Tennessee face tat is wild, dude, like a

3583
02:44:23,160 --> 02:44:25,760
Speaker 2: tempt tattoo. You know, the same day, that could be

3584
02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:29,480
Speaker 2: me on game day, just shirt off, I come out

3585
02:44:29,520 --> 02:44:32,480
Speaker 2: looking like Jason Momoa dude, just like full shirt off

3586
02:44:33,160 --> 02:44:37,600
Speaker 2: face hat. Hell yeah, that'd be That'd be wildo. So

3587
02:44:37,720 --> 02:44:40,560
Speaker 2: you think I go away for a year all publicly,

3588
02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:44,480
Speaker 2: like nobody sees me. Hit the steroids. We talked about

3589
02:44:44,480 --> 02:44:48,600
Speaker 2: that full tribals, which is gonna be weird. Probably people

3590
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:51,160
Speaker 2: are gonna think that's weird. And then come on college

3591
02:44:51,240 --> 02:44:53,879
Speaker 2: game day that's when people hear. I'm sure it off

3592
02:44:54,280 --> 02:44:58,480
Speaker 2: absolutely jacked face tattoo of whatever team. I decided a

3593
02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:00,120
Speaker 2: few hats in front of you make it up like

3594
02:45:00,200 --> 02:45:03,680
Speaker 2: a lebron The decision official visits would be wild.

3595
02:45:03,959 --> 02:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Here's what I think we're filming this. Can we say

3596
02:45:07,959 --> 02:45:09,600
Speaker 1: when we're filming this? I know this comes out in March,

3597
02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:13,720
Speaker 1: but this is being filmed on January nineteenth, twenty twenty six.

3598
02:45:14,680 --> 02:45:17,520
Speaker 1: I think January nineteenth, twenty twenty seven. You come back

3599
02:45:17,560 --> 02:45:20,920
Speaker 1: on the bus and give us an official official you

3600
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:22,800
Speaker 1: put the hat on, and it doesn't have to be

3601
02:45:22,840 --> 02:45:23,359
Speaker 1: a podcast.

3602
02:45:23,400 --> 02:45:24,120
Speaker 5: We just get you in there.

3603
02:45:24,920 --> 02:45:27,640
Speaker 1: You give us. You have a full year, full year

3604
02:45:27,720 --> 02:45:30,560
Speaker 1: for people to sell you on why you should become

3605
02:45:30,560 --> 02:45:32,840
Speaker 1: a fan of your other school and every college.

3606
02:45:33,480 --> 02:45:35,520
Speaker 2: Every college time you go and play in you're now

3607
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:37,560
Speaker 2: claim it as you're taking an official visit.

3608
02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3609
02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Official. I am doing some colleges.

3610
02:45:39,640 --> 02:45:40,440
Speaker 1: You're doing some movies.

3611
02:45:40,959 --> 02:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing Aims. I'm doing Iowa State, doing

3612
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:51,240
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Nice, yeah, not a good wow, Notre Dame

3613
02:45:51,360 --> 02:45:54,840
Speaker 2: doing doing Knoxville, actually doing a show in Knoxville.

3614
02:45:54,959 --> 02:45:57,720
Speaker 1: You play it right. Interesting, It's a good opportunity for

3615
02:45:57,800 --> 02:45:58,560
Speaker 1: you to be hosted.

3616
02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:02,760
Speaker 2: Maybe get walling out. Chesney comes out. There's a lot

3617
02:46:02,840 --> 02:46:05,560
Speaker 2: of Tennessee guys, a lot of Tennessee guys. You're the

3618
02:46:05,640 --> 02:46:08,120
Speaker 2: only one getting to get feeling comes out. You know,

3619
02:46:08,400 --> 02:46:10,800
Speaker 2: we do a little catch me and him probably.

3620
02:46:10,720 --> 02:46:13,920
Speaker 1: If we get yeah, if we get a video from

3621
02:46:14,320 --> 02:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, mm hmm. Are you committing on the spot?

3622
02:46:17,200 --> 02:46:17,640
Speaker 2: You think.

3623
02:46:19,480 --> 02:46:21,959
Speaker 1: Who's one person that you'd be like, I gotta go there.

3624
02:46:24,000 --> 02:46:28,040
Speaker 2: I love I loved as, I got a lot of

3625
02:46:28,200 --> 02:46:30,040
Speaker 2: I got a lot of South Carolina tis too. I

3626
02:46:30,120 --> 02:46:36,680
Speaker 2: got people pulling me in all directions. It is eight today, yep.

3627
02:46:37,080 --> 02:46:38,440
Speaker 2: And when you go to these schools, so you need

3628
02:46:38,480 --> 02:46:40,080
Speaker 2: to get you need to go through the ringer of

3629
02:46:40,120 --> 02:46:47,760
Speaker 2: all the you know photos they take. I am the

3630
02:46:47,879 --> 02:46:50,120
Speaker 2: look super jagged, but you got to do that at

3631
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:52,160
Speaker 2: least one would be really funny. Actually, that would be

3632
02:46:52,160 --> 02:46:55,080
Speaker 2: a great video series to do of like every school

3633
02:46:55,120 --> 02:46:59,320
Speaker 2: I go to give me an officials, you.

3634
02:46:59,320 --> 02:47:01,080
Speaker 1: Know what I mean to do like a Lebron James

3635
02:47:01,160 --> 02:47:01,640
Speaker 1: the decision.

3636
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that is crazy. Oh man, that's funny, dude, that

3637
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:13,560
Speaker 2: would be that's I think the official visit thing has

3638
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:16,600
Speaker 2: some legs. Absolutely, Oh yeah, I think that would be

3639
02:47:16,720 --> 02:47:17,800
Speaker 2: some good context.

3640
02:47:18,040 --> 02:47:20,360
Speaker 1: It's literally just your team reaching out to them, being like,

3641
02:47:20,440 --> 02:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Luke would love to have a two of your facility,

3642
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:23,640
Speaker 1: and then we're like, oh my god, and.

3643
02:47:23,720 --> 02:47:26,480
Speaker 2: We usually do that anyways, but we would just film

3644
02:47:26,560 --> 02:47:28,879
Speaker 2: it and it would just, yes, be a little bit

3645
02:47:28,920 --> 02:47:29,879
Speaker 2: more ridiculous.

3646
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:32,680
Speaker 1: You got to do a photo shoot right there and stuff.

3647
02:47:32,800 --> 02:47:34,480
Speaker 2: Go to a game, go to an state game.

3648
02:47:34,720 --> 02:47:35,320
Speaker 1: I would love that.

3649
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man flipped, yeah, flipped on signing many how many

3650
02:47:40,800 --> 02:47:43,960
Speaker 2: signing day I will pick yeah, yeah, and then I'll flip.

3651
02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:46,680
Speaker 2: But then we thought we had them, like we did

3652
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:50,279
Speaker 2: the visit and everything. He drank drank like fifteen Gatorades.

3653
02:47:50,360 --> 02:47:54,080
Speaker 2: He didn't even need it. And he's just drinking those

3654
02:47:54,120 --> 02:47:56,400
Speaker 2: because they're like SODA's kind of he gives me that

3655
02:47:56,600 --> 02:47:59,360
Speaker 2: vibe that he just drinks them. He thinks they're good

3656
02:47:59,440 --> 02:48:03,360
Speaker 2: for him, you know what I mean. Healthy. Yeah, Yeah,

3657
02:48:03,520 --> 02:48:04,800
Speaker 2: he's given me that vibe.

3658
02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:07,920
Speaker 1: This needs to happen. This could be a massive twenty

3659
02:48:07,959 --> 02:48:08,360
Speaker 1: six for you.

3660
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:11,879
Speaker 2: I think how many Upstate games you go to a year?

3661
02:48:12,400 --> 02:48:12,520
Speaker 3: Uh?

3662
02:48:12,959 --> 02:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Didn't go to one this year? Yep. Stuff didn't go

3663
02:48:15,800 --> 02:48:17,760
Speaker 2: to one this year. Not because I didn't want to.

3664
02:48:18,160 --> 02:48:21,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to it's hard to get my first stadium

3665
02:48:21,400 --> 02:48:25,040
Speaker 2: show ever was an app one of my favorite shows,

3666
02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:27,640
Speaker 2: I mean of all time, dude, you know, I mean,

3667
02:48:27,800 --> 02:48:31,160
Speaker 2: just never beat that moment for me. I mean it's

3668
02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:34,160
Speaker 2: really selfishly like I would honestly love my kids to

3669
02:48:34,240 --> 02:48:36,080
Speaker 2: go there just so I could go back all the time.

3670
02:48:36,200 --> 02:48:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like one of my favorite place in

3671
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:41,000
Speaker 2: the world. So many great memories there, and you know,

3672
02:48:41,040 --> 02:48:44,160
Speaker 2: it's where my career started. It's where you know, my

3673
02:48:44,320 --> 02:48:47,120
Speaker 2: sadness ended from not knowing what I was going to do, yeah,

3674
02:48:47,120 --> 02:48:49,680
Speaker 2: the rest of my life, you know. And just like

3675
02:48:50,040 --> 02:48:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean those games there, man, like they're I mean,

3676
02:48:52,120 --> 02:48:54,280
Speaker 2: those are great people, dude, and they're great fans and

3677
02:48:54,959 --> 02:48:57,879
Speaker 2: it's just electric, dude. I mean that. And that's that's

3678
02:48:57,920 --> 02:49:00,800
Speaker 2: what I say when I say, like I want something

3679
02:49:00,879 --> 02:49:04,120
Speaker 2: to happen in the college football world, because like I

3680
02:49:04,320 --> 02:49:07,000
Speaker 2: want to be able to have that back, like I

3681
02:49:07,240 --> 02:49:11,840
Speaker 2: miss that, Like even though we weren't Division one, the

3682
02:49:11,959 --> 02:49:14,880
Speaker 2: games like meant more right now because right now it

3683
02:49:14,920 --> 02:49:17,600
Speaker 2: feels like we're a farm team for you know, these

3684
02:49:17,640 --> 02:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Power five schools.

3685
02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:25,280
Speaker 5: It warms my heart that for him, it just comes

3686
02:49:25,360 --> 02:49:29,320
Speaker 5: back to the idea of college football. It really be

3687
02:49:29,400 --> 02:49:30,840
Speaker 5: playing in some real games again.

3688
02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:37,040
Speaker 2: To man, like, come on, I want it, you know, dude,

3689
02:49:37,520 --> 02:49:40,560
Speaker 2: to Spring Tour. I did tell some of my buddies.

3690
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:43,240
Speaker 2: I was like, listen, your kids go to Appstate. I'll

3691
02:49:43,280 --> 02:49:46,240
Speaker 2: pay for it. I'm not gonna lie and say I

3692
02:49:46,320 --> 02:49:49,200
Speaker 2: haven't said that to people and pretty much meant it

3693
02:49:49,640 --> 02:49:52,200
Speaker 2: really pretty much like pretty much like, seriously, if your

3694
02:49:52,280 --> 02:49:53,320
Speaker 2: kids to go there, I'll pay for it.

3695
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:54,680
Speaker 1: Sponsor just so like.

3696
02:49:54,760 --> 02:49:56,960
Speaker 2: We can all be fans together and there's a bunch

3697
02:49:57,000 --> 02:49:57,800
Speaker 2: of us and we're all.

3698
02:49:58,920 --> 02:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Paying for fandom. Is crazy move.

3699
02:50:00,680 --> 02:50:03,760
Speaker 2: But you won't pay for players, No, because the fandoms forever.

3700
02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:06,600
Speaker 2: Fans forever, dude, the players for a year. I don't

3701
02:50:06,640 --> 02:50:08,120
Speaker 2: get paid to be a fan. It costs me to

3702
02:50:08,200 --> 02:50:10,440
Speaker 2: be a fan now at this point, and I'm paying guys.

3703
02:50:10,520 --> 02:50:12,600
Speaker 2: It's really costing me something to be a fan. That's

3704
02:50:12,600 --> 02:50:15,200
Speaker 2: a fair point. But I think I would just need concessions.

3705
02:50:15,200 --> 02:50:16,680
Speaker 2: I would need to know that you're gonna be there

3706
02:50:16,720 --> 02:50:18,880
Speaker 2: for two years. That's it, not asking you to be

3707
02:50:18,920 --> 02:50:21,160
Speaker 2: there four years. If you turn out to be a

3708
02:50:21,560 --> 02:50:23,640
Speaker 2: first round talent, I want you to go on and

3709
02:50:23,760 --> 02:50:26,200
Speaker 2: be great somewhere else. I think that's the beauty of

3710
02:50:26,280 --> 02:50:29,240
Speaker 2: those schools. Is there were so many guys that were

3711
02:50:29,280 --> 02:50:31,959
Speaker 2: great when I was there that never got they never

3712
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:35,720
Speaker 2: got recruited by these big teams, and they bawled out

3713
02:50:35,760 --> 02:50:38,080
Speaker 2: at app State they went to the league. There's guys

3714
02:50:38,120 --> 02:50:39,760
Speaker 2: that are crushing in the league that went to app

3715
02:50:39,800 --> 02:50:42,920
Speaker 2: State right now, you know, And we had that history

3716
02:50:42,959 --> 02:50:45,720
Speaker 2: of that was our whole identity as a team. Was

3717
02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:49,480
Speaker 2: like guys that just were an inch too short or

3718
02:50:49,560 --> 02:50:52,000
Speaker 2: ten pounds too light, or their forty speed was just

3719
02:50:52,120 --> 02:50:54,960
Speaker 2: not fast enough. But they had heart twice the size

3720
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:58,000
Speaker 2: of guys with with with you know, bigger frames than them.

3721
02:50:58,360 --> 02:51:00,360
Speaker 2: And that's how I mean. Jerry Moore on all those

3722
02:51:00,400 --> 02:51:03,040
Speaker 2: games there, man, was he recruited a certain type of player.

3723
02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:06,680
Speaker 2: And now those players don't They just don't. There's no

3724
02:51:06,879 --> 02:51:09,160
Speaker 2: incentive for them to stay, yeah, you know what I

3725
02:51:09,240 --> 02:51:11,720
Speaker 2: mean other than what they just want to go there

3726
02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:14,080
Speaker 2: because that might be a chance to play well and

3727
02:51:14,160 --> 02:51:17,160
Speaker 2: go somewhere else. You know. It's like, I like, I

3728
02:51:17,200 --> 02:51:19,400
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just like I mean, imagine a guy

3729
02:51:19,480 --> 02:51:22,560
Speaker 2: goes to pay for say one player, and he was

3730
02:51:22,600 --> 02:51:25,200
Speaker 2: a good player to still if it only put you know,

3731
02:51:25,440 --> 02:51:28,119
Speaker 2: production on the field of still like a losing season.

3732
02:51:28,240 --> 02:51:31,240
Speaker 5: Or like exactly, yeah, exactly, even if he's telling you

3733
02:51:31,320 --> 02:51:34,360
Speaker 5: he'll stay for two years, right right, it's like, ship,

3734
02:51:34,440 --> 02:51:36,080
Speaker 5: why am I just throwing my money for us to

3735
02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:38,240
Speaker 5: still have a mediocre season?

3736
02:51:38,560 --> 02:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

3737
02:51:44,240 --> 02:51:47,560
Speaker 1: He was an app State cat love to stream extreaming streaming.

3738
02:51:47,280 --> 02:51:51,760
Speaker 2: Guy a Keem Davis Gaither app State guy. Yeah, yeah,

3739
02:51:52,080 --> 02:51:54,800
Speaker 2: app State guy. We've had a we got a few

3740
02:51:54,840 --> 02:51:56,800
Speaker 2: couple of linemen in the league. Man, We've we've got

3741
02:51:56,920 --> 02:51:58,879
Speaker 2: We've always put some guys and they always have. Guys

3742
02:51:58,920 --> 02:52:02,400
Speaker 2: get drafted every year basically, But I don't I don't

3743
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:04,400
Speaker 2: know that that that might not that doesn't change now,

3744
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:08,080
Speaker 2: you know, because like any transfers we get are either

3745
02:52:09,440 --> 02:52:12,200
Speaker 2: they're still on the ride up and they're still gonna leave,

3746
02:52:12,959 --> 02:52:16,880
Speaker 2: or they're on the way down. It's guys that underperformed

3747
02:52:17,000 --> 02:52:18,800
Speaker 2: and they're like, well now I gotta go. Guys hit

3748
02:52:18,840 --> 02:52:22,240
Speaker 2: the portal. Nobody wanted them exactly, So it's kind of

3749
02:52:22,280 --> 02:52:25,000
Speaker 2: a It just kind of sets you up for that thing.

3750
02:52:25,080 --> 02:52:27,640
Speaker 2: And obviously coaching matters, but like, how does a coach

3751
02:52:27,720 --> 02:52:30,080
Speaker 2: get to build any consistency with a player that has

3752
02:52:30,120 --> 02:52:34,360
Speaker 2: a new scheme every year? Different coaches every year, a

3753
02:52:34,400 --> 02:52:37,920
Speaker 2: different facility, Like they don't even like they're basically on

3754
02:52:38,080 --> 02:52:40,680
Speaker 2: a vacation in a town they play football, and like,

3755
02:52:41,080 --> 02:52:43,200
Speaker 2: you come there and stay for not even a whole year.

3756
02:52:44,480 --> 02:52:47,400
Speaker 2: Why does that build any How does that build anything?

3757
02:52:47,440 --> 02:52:48,920
Speaker 2: How do you build a culture around that?

3758
02:52:49,040 --> 02:52:52,160
Speaker 1: As a coach, the team right, the camaraderie of the

3759
02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:55,440
Speaker 1: locker room, keeping everybody together. You lose, it's your sophomore year,

3760
02:52:55,480 --> 02:52:58,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, next year is our year, exactly, this

3761
02:52:59,000 --> 02:52:59,720
Speaker 1: is our right.

3762
02:53:00,160 --> 02:53:03,320
Speaker 2: Everybody will be back. These guys will be here next year.

3763
02:53:03,840 --> 02:53:06,120
Speaker 2: What's the Indiana thing, dude, we got to talk about it.

3764
02:53:06,280 --> 02:53:09,720
Speaker 2: What's happened there? What has happened.

3765
02:53:10,840 --> 02:53:14,600
Speaker 1: Big? Netty bro bro is wild?

3766
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:15,600
Speaker 2: Is wild.

3767
02:53:15,879 --> 02:53:19,600
Speaker 1: This is the greatest coaching we've ever seen. I talk

3768
02:53:19,959 --> 02:53:20,200
Speaker 1: the game.

3769
02:53:20,320 --> 02:53:23,080
Speaker 2: I talk to like people that I know about this,

3770
02:53:23,480 --> 02:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Like I try to explain it to people that I

3771
02:53:25,200 --> 02:53:27,680
Speaker 2: know that don't like pay that much attention to football.

3772
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:31,800
Speaker 2: Like someone that doesn't like that listens to Taylor Swift

3773
02:53:31,959 --> 02:53:34,640
Speaker 2: is explaining to someone that doesn't listen to Taylor Swift

3774
02:53:34,720 --> 02:53:37,280
Speaker 2: about her albums. Yeah, I'm like, it's that big of

3775
02:53:37,360 --> 02:53:40,440
Speaker 2: a deal. Guys, you don't understand. No, top three hundred players,

3776
02:53:40,640 --> 02:53:43,360
Speaker 2: it ever happens, it doesn't happen. There's no five star guys.

3777
02:53:43,440 --> 02:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Ye have forty four guys that are twenty four and

3778
02:53:45,560 --> 02:53:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty five years old that are just production. He's like,

3779
02:53:48,120 --> 02:53:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm over production versus potential. They're the best coach team.

3780
02:53:51,640 --> 02:53:58,560
Speaker 1: They don't make mistakes. Yeah, the fucking back shoulder throwstoppable.

3781
02:53:58,640 --> 02:54:00,000
Speaker 1: It's unstoppable.

3782
02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, he's and it's just a I mean, Mendoza is

3783
02:54:03,040 --> 02:54:06,160
Speaker 2: just a he's just an impenetrable mind dude.

3784
02:54:06,240 --> 02:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Like he's just like shoot brain for shoot dude.

3785
02:54:11,440 --> 02:54:15,920
Speaker 2: The guy says, shoot, he's a dog and he doesn't

3786
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:22,080
Speaker 2: even know he's a dog. Dude. Hundred for the best kind.

3787
02:54:22,280 --> 02:54:25,440
Speaker 1: And you see his family on the sideline. They're so sweet, dude,

3788
02:54:25,560 --> 02:54:27,000
Speaker 1: everybody's so amazing.

3789
02:54:27,160 --> 02:54:29,400
Speaker 2: How can you love the guy? You have to love them,

3790
02:54:29,560 --> 02:54:30,400
Speaker 2: You have to love him.

3791
02:54:30,400 --> 02:54:32,800
Speaker 1: I love every time he's on the mic after a game, Yeah.

3792
02:54:32,680 --> 02:54:36,160
Speaker 2: Bro, because he's fired up his voices like TV just.

3793
02:54:36,160 --> 02:54:38,480
Speaker 1: Talking about how greatest teammates are and how we're all together.

3794
02:54:38,720 --> 02:54:40,680
Speaker 2: It's like he's like, we won the glue.

3795
02:54:40,879 --> 02:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Everything you want. He's like, I just want to be

3796
02:54:42,920 --> 02:54:45,720
Speaker 1: one of the fingers around the microphone that he's telling

3797
02:54:45,800 --> 02:54:46,000
Speaker 1: them to.

3798
02:54:46,360 --> 02:54:49,120
Speaker 2: He's like, I was joking with my wife about this.

3799
02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:51,760
Speaker 2: The other day he did an interview and I'm like,

3800
02:54:52,200 --> 02:54:54,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna be like it was so they were doing

3801
02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:57,760
Speaker 2: some spotlight on him on ESPN before maybe the quarterfinal

3802
02:54:57,840 --> 02:55:01,040
Speaker 2: game or something, and he's like, well, yeah, like I

3803
02:55:01,160 --> 02:55:04,000
Speaker 2: just wanted to come in and establish that I'm one

3804
02:55:04,040 --> 02:55:06,040
Speaker 2: of the guys. That was like his thing, he said.

3805
02:55:06,560 --> 02:55:09,760
Speaker 2: And I told my wife, I'm like, I bet that

3806
02:55:09,959 --> 02:55:11,760
Speaker 2: all the guys on the team are like this guy,

3807
02:55:12,000 --> 02:55:13,959
Speaker 2: Like we have to tell this guy all year he's

3808
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:15,680
Speaker 2: not one of the guys. Unless we win the Natty.

3809
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:19,840
Speaker 2: He's never one of the guys. Like he will be.

3810
02:55:20,080 --> 02:55:21,760
Speaker 2: We just don't tell him he's one of the guys.

3811
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,800
Speaker 2: And so the whole time he's like, I think if

3812
02:55:23,840 --> 02:55:25,320
Speaker 2: we can win the Natty, like I might get to

3813
02:55:25,360 --> 02:55:27,959
Speaker 2: be one of the guys, maybe all the guys will

3814
02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:29,360
Speaker 2: like want to go out to dinner and like hang

3815
02:55:29,440 --> 02:55:32,320
Speaker 2: out and stuff after practice, and like that's been his

3816
02:55:32,440 --> 02:55:35,640
Speaker 2: motivation the entire time, to be accepted by Like he

3817
02:55:35,720 --> 02:55:38,440
Speaker 2: wants his teammates to be like that's my guy over there, dude,

3818
02:55:38,480 --> 02:55:40,320
Speaker 2: And he's like yes, Like they win the Natty, and

3819
02:55:40,360 --> 02:55:42,480
Speaker 2: he's like they're all hugging and yeah, he's like I'm

3820
02:55:42,480 --> 02:55:44,680
Speaker 2: one of the guys, man, and they're like holding the thing.

3821
02:55:44,720 --> 02:55:46,440
Speaker 2: And he's like on the phone with his parents after

3822
02:55:46,520 --> 02:55:49,320
Speaker 2: each day say like, you know the kids in school

3823
02:55:49,480 --> 02:55:54,560
Speaker 2: really like me now right. Yeah, it's like that's so awesome. Yeah,

3824
02:55:54,600 --> 02:55:56,440
Speaker 2: we're like, dude, like none of us are hitting the

3825
02:55:56,480 --> 02:55:59,320
Speaker 2: portal now, we're not even gonna get drafted. We just

3826
02:55:59,400 --> 02:56:01,640
Speaker 2: want to hang, man, just hang guys.

3827
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, I just pictured there's one player on the

3828
02:56:03,720 --> 02:56:05,840
Speaker 1: team that has held back everybody else from being one

3829
02:56:05,840 --> 02:56:07,480
Speaker 1: of the guys with him. And then they win the

3830
02:56:07,560 --> 02:56:10,879
Speaker 1: Natty and it's like Maverick and Iceman in the first again.

3831
02:56:11,240 --> 02:56:12,680
Speaker 1: But he goes and shakes his hand Andy, have his

3832
02:56:12,800 --> 02:56:15,000
Speaker 1: long look at each other eyes like he's finally done it,

3833
02:56:15,040 --> 02:56:17,760
Speaker 1: and then have the trophy and listen the s like

3834
02:56:17,920 --> 02:56:18,640
Speaker 1: you so a.

3835
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:23,680
Speaker 2: Bitch, They just do muscles are like going yeah, yeah,

3836
02:56:23,800 --> 02:56:24,400
Speaker 2: that's awesome.

3837
02:56:24,480 --> 02:56:24,840
Speaker 1: It would be.

3838
02:56:25,640 --> 02:56:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3839
02:56:26,480 --> 02:56:28,160
Speaker 1: I love your passion for college football.

3840
02:56:28,959 --> 02:56:31,760
Speaker 2: I love your passion for hard football fan. Man. It's

3841
02:56:31,840 --> 02:56:34,480
Speaker 2: like it's all give a ship about sports wise really

3842
02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:36,760
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. How about your your passion

3843
02:56:36,840 --> 02:56:39,000
Speaker 2: for this next album. I got a lot.

3844
02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:41,480
Speaker 1: I got a lot of it, and not quite as

3845
02:56:41,560 --> 02:56:42,080
Speaker 1: much as college.

3846
02:56:44,040 --> 02:56:47,959
Speaker 2: Okay, don't talk college football. I'm like, damn football talks over.

3847
02:56:48,760 --> 02:56:49,320
Speaker 2: We don't have to do.

3848
02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:50,760
Speaker 1: This was really hitting off with them.

3849
02:56:50,760 --> 02:56:53,560
Speaker 2: We were talking college going to pull my album and

3850
02:56:53,640 --> 02:56:56,080
Speaker 2: this and the bust and guys played four Square, Like

3851
02:56:56,160 --> 02:56:58,080
Speaker 2: I really think they think I'm cool, dude, Like it

3852
02:56:58,200 --> 02:57:01,200
Speaker 2: was one of the guys I wanted to. It's like,

3853
02:57:02,440 --> 02:57:05,480
Speaker 2: but no, this, this record, it's it's been a long

3854
02:57:05,560 --> 02:57:06,400
Speaker 2: time coming for me.

3855
02:57:07,360 --> 02:57:07,480
Speaker 1: You know.

3856
02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:09,800
Speaker 2: I did Fathers and Sons two years ago, and that

3857
02:57:10,040 --> 02:57:13,240
Speaker 2: was like never supposed to be like a commercial success,

3858
02:57:13,360 --> 02:57:15,320
Speaker 2: like that wasn't the reason that we put that record out,

3859
02:57:15,480 --> 02:57:18,400
Speaker 2: And that was something I wanted to do for myself

3860
02:57:18,480 --> 02:57:20,840
Speaker 2: and for my kids, and you know, just something that

3861
02:57:20,959 --> 02:57:23,560
Speaker 2: I hoped that, you know, people could relate to in

3862
02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:26,520
Speaker 2: some sense. And it was that I think, you know,

3863
02:57:26,640 --> 02:57:29,400
Speaker 2: I do. You know, not a lot of people have

3864
02:57:29,520 --> 02:57:31,200
Speaker 2: heard that record, but the people that did hear it

3865
02:57:31,320 --> 02:57:33,840
Speaker 2: really love it. And so I'm very proud of that.

3866
02:57:33,959 --> 02:57:35,960
Speaker 2: But it's been I mean, it's coming up on four

3867
02:57:36,080 --> 02:57:39,280
Speaker 2: years now since I've put out a record where I'm like, Okay, well,

3868
02:57:39,360 --> 02:57:42,200
Speaker 2: let's actually like, let's get in the game, you know

3869
02:57:42,240 --> 02:57:44,560
Speaker 2: what I mean, like getting the on deck circle, take

3870
02:57:44,600 --> 02:57:46,640
Speaker 2: a couple of hacks at it, get up to the plate,

3871
02:57:46,720 --> 02:57:49,640
Speaker 2: see what we can do. Like I basically, you know,

3872
02:57:50,120 --> 02:57:53,680
Speaker 2: purposefully kept myself on the sidelines, like trying to raise

3873
02:57:53,760 --> 02:57:56,960
Speaker 2: my boys and you know, just playing enough shows to

3874
02:57:57,080 --> 02:57:59,680
Speaker 2: kind of keep my momentum going a little bit and

3875
02:58:00,440 --> 02:58:03,360
Speaker 2: and also give people a breather. Man. Like, I think

3876
02:58:03,720 --> 02:58:07,840
Speaker 2: sometimes taking time away is a really good thing. You know.

3877
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:08,240
Speaker 1: I was.

3878
02:58:08,400 --> 02:58:11,480
Speaker 2: I was really really popular at the time that you know,

3879
02:58:11,680 --> 02:58:13,920
Speaker 2: my the fastcar stuff came out, and then it just

3880
02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:16,560
Speaker 2: got even bigger, and I feel like people were just

3881
02:58:16,600 --> 02:58:18,400
Speaker 2: seeing so much of me all the time. I'm like, man,

3882
02:58:18,440 --> 02:58:20,320
Speaker 2: people must be sick of like seeing me all the

3883
02:58:20,360 --> 02:58:22,640
Speaker 2: time on stuff, you know. And so in my mind,

3884
02:58:22,680 --> 02:58:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm going, well, why not just kind of step away,

3885
02:58:25,360 --> 02:58:27,760
Speaker 2: take things at my own speed, be around with my

3886
02:58:27,920 --> 02:58:31,160
Speaker 2: kids and my wife and build that you know, that

3887
02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:33,640
Speaker 2: bond with my boys, and you know, let my wife

3888
02:58:33,720 --> 02:58:36,040
Speaker 2: know that me know, my family is my top priority.

3889
02:58:36,200 --> 02:58:39,640
Speaker 2: And but you know, I'm ready to kind of step

3890
02:58:39,720 --> 02:58:43,080
Speaker 2: into this next chapter and see what it looks like. Man,

3891
02:58:43,160 --> 02:58:45,000
Speaker 2: this record is my way of doing that, you know,

3892
02:58:45,120 --> 02:58:46,800
Speaker 2: and going, hey, man, I still feel like I can

3893
02:58:46,879 --> 02:58:51,480
Speaker 2: write you know, really you know, successful like commercially viable stuff.

3894
02:58:52,640 --> 02:58:55,160
Speaker 2: That's something I think, you know, my core fan base

3895
02:58:55,560 --> 02:58:58,000
Speaker 2: has been dying for for a long time, and I

3896
02:58:58,040 --> 02:59:01,040
Speaker 2: hope this album delivers deliver for them. I you know,

3897
02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:03,680
Speaker 2: I put myself fully into this and spend a lot

3898
02:59:03,720 --> 02:59:06,800
Speaker 2: of time working on it. I recorded forty songs for

3899
02:59:06,879 --> 02:59:09,600
Speaker 2: this record. It's twenty two songs, but I recorded forty

3900
02:59:09,720 --> 02:59:12,600
Speaker 2: and narrowed it down to the number it's at now,

3901
02:59:12,720 --> 02:59:15,240
Speaker 2: and I just felt like it's the you know, it's

3902
02:59:15,320 --> 02:59:18,080
Speaker 2: the best, the best that I got. Man. So if

3903
02:59:18,080 --> 02:59:22,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't work, I'm kind of screwed. But you know,

3904
02:59:22,840 --> 02:59:26,520
Speaker 2: I still still college football. Yeah, I still got still

3905
02:59:26,560 --> 02:59:31,800
Speaker 2: got my commitment to look forward. But it's yeah, it's exciting, man,

3906
02:59:31,879 --> 02:59:34,040
Speaker 2: And it's you know, it's not it's not reinventing the

3907
02:59:34,080 --> 02:59:36,760
Speaker 2: wheel by any you know, stretch of the imagination. You know.

3908
02:59:36,920 --> 02:59:40,920
Speaker 2: I I think it's me pushing myself in within the

3909
02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:43,080
Speaker 2: bounds of what I already do. You know. It's not

3910
02:59:43,280 --> 02:59:46,279
Speaker 2: like I set out to make a dance record or something,

3911
02:59:46,360 --> 02:59:49,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it's you know, it's

3912
02:59:49,160 --> 02:59:51,720
Speaker 2: what I think a lot of my fans have come

3913
02:59:51,800 --> 02:59:54,720
Speaker 2: to expect. And then I also think, you know, fans

3914
02:59:54,760 --> 02:59:57,720
Speaker 2: that I may have been introduced to in the last

3915
02:59:57,760 --> 03:00:00,760
Speaker 2: couple of years via the Fastcar thing or via some

3916
03:00:00,840 --> 03:00:04,480
Speaker 2: of the festivals we played last year, can like can

3917
03:00:04,640 --> 03:00:07,720
Speaker 2: listen to and go Okay, I like this. I can

3918
03:00:07,840 --> 03:00:11,160
Speaker 2: get into this. You know. It's not the extreme version

3919
03:00:11,320 --> 03:00:14,360
Speaker 2: of you know, of anything. It's really like what I

3920
03:00:14,520 --> 03:00:16,440
Speaker 2: want to do, the songs I love, the kind of

3921
03:00:16,520 --> 03:00:18,240
Speaker 2: music I like, the shit I want to do with

3922
03:00:18,320 --> 03:00:20,640
Speaker 2: my buddies, which is the same thing I did on

3923
03:00:20,720 --> 03:00:22,960
Speaker 2: my first record and my second record. And you know,

3924
03:00:23,440 --> 03:00:25,240
Speaker 2: it was just always that it was basically just me

3925
03:00:25,320 --> 03:00:28,920
Speaker 2: and my boys writing stuff and what's the best stuff

3926
03:00:28,959 --> 03:00:30,640
Speaker 2: we got that we've come up with in the last

3927
03:00:30,680 --> 03:00:31,120
Speaker 2: two years.

3928
03:00:31,160 --> 03:00:31,680
Speaker 1: And this is it.

3929
03:00:31,879 --> 03:00:34,040
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, I don't want to try to

3930
03:00:34,080 --> 03:00:36,440
Speaker 2: make it sound any more poetic than it needs to be.

3931
03:00:36,640 --> 03:00:39,000
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, it's just the you know, I'm

3932
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:42,360
Speaker 2: throwing gasp, like that's what I'm trying to do. I'm

3933
03:00:42,480 --> 03:00:45,080
Speaker 2: trying to throw fastballs down the middle. I'm not trying

3934
03:00:45,160 --> 03:00:50,119
Speaker 2: to do anything special in a sense where it's it's

3935
03:00:50,160 --> 03:00:51,680
Speaker 2: not going to come out of left field, man, you

3936
03:00:51,720 --> 03:00:53,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It's just going to be right

3937
03:00:53,200 --> 03:00:56,240
Speaker 2: down the middle. I think stuff that I hope people

3938
03:00:56,280 --> 03:00:56,560
Speaker 2: will love.

3939
03:00:57,720 --> 03:01:00,160
Speaker 1: What ah, when you releasing an album, you're saying the

3940
03:01:00,200 --> 03:01:03,880
Speaker 1: album right now, sixth sixth album. When you're releasing album,

3941
03:01:03,920 --> 03:01:06,720
Speaker 1: what is like the highest stress point for you? When

3942
03:01:06,959 --> 03:01:08,920
Speaker 1: when the album is released? Is it like knowing what

3943
03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:11,560
Speaker 1: the first twenty four hours look like, the first week

3944
03:01:11,600 --> 03:01:11,960
Speaker 1: looks like.

3945
03:01:12,760 --> 03:01:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't worry as much. It's like I feel like

3946
03:01:15,080 --> 03:01:18,560
Speaker 2: the pressure is already off a little bit because like

3947
03:01:19,280 --> 03:01:22,520
Speaker 2: Sleepless in a Hotel Room came out and it's doing

3948
03:01:22,720 --> 03:01:26,760
Speaker 2: so well, and so I know, like if people like that,

3949
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:28,880
Speaker 2: then I think there's gonna be other stuff on the

3950
03:01:28,879 --> 03:01:32,200
Speaker 2: album that they love. And like if we had give

3951
03:01:32,280 --> 03:01:35,840
Speaker 2: this record was coming out and there was no songs

3952
03:01:35,920 --> 03:01:38,440
Speaker 2: that had been kind of come out before the record,

3953
03:01:38,560 --> 03:01:41,440
Speaker 2: like no instant grat stuff that had done well, I

3954
03:01:41,480 --> 03:01:44,720
Speaker 2: would be really concerned about it. I'd be like, man,

3955
03:01:44,800 --> 03:01:47,520
Speaker 2: because like when you're doing the pre release stuff, you're

3956
03:01:47,520 --> 03:01:49,640
Speaker 2: trying to kind of like you're showing them like a

3957
03:01:49,720 --> 03:01:52,640
Speaker 2: little bit of your hand, like you're not just given

3958
03:01:52,800 --> 03:01:56,680
Speaker 2: strictly B side songs maybe one or two, but if

3959
03:01:56,720 --> 03:01:59,240
Speaker 2: you instant grab four of the twenty two, like two

3960
03:01:59,320 --> 03:02:02,360
Speaker 2: of those year or like two of those are kind

3961
03:02:02,400 --> 03:02:04,240
Speaker 2: of like, hey man, like here's a little bit of

3962
03:02:04,280 --> 03:02:06,480
Speaker 2: what the album is going to be. Like, so you

3963
03:02:06,680 --> 03:02:08,960
Speaker 2: really want one of those songs to take off. Now,

3964
03:02:08,959 --> 03:02:10,960
Speaker 2: which one is it going to be? You never really know,

3965
03:02:12,280 --> 03:02:14,640
Speaker 2: So that would have been the biggest stress point for me.

3966
03:02:14,879 --> 03:02:17,600
Speaker 2: For me, it's narrowing the songs down, like getting to

3967
03:02:17,640 --> 03:02:21,520
Speaker 2: the point, like making the track list from forty to

3968
03:02:21,640 --> 03:02:25,000
Speaker 2: twenty two is really hard because I if I've recorded

3969
03:02:25,080 --> 03:02:27,000
Speaker 2: the song like, I love it. I think it's a

3970
03:02:27,040 --> 03:02:29,800
Speaker 2: great song and I would love for people to get

3971
03:02:29,840 --> 03:02:31,840
Speaker 2: to hear it. But I'm not going to put out

3972
03:02:31,879 --> 03:02:34,480
Speaker 2: a forty song record. It's just not like something that

3973
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:38,640
Speaker 2: works for me. So it was tough to get rid of,

3974
03:02:38,879 --> 03:02:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, eighteen songs, because they're songs that I believe

3975
03:02:42,280 --> 03:02:44,920
Speaker 2: in that I think are good, and but you just can't.

3976
03:02:45,120 --> 03:02:47,280
Speaker 2: You can't have everything on there, you know what I mean.

3977
03:02:47,360 --> 03:02:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean you could, I guess, but I wanted people

3978
03:02:50,959 --> 03:02:53,240
Speaker 2: to to be an album that I felt like people

3979
03:02:53,320 --> 03:02:56,080
Speaker 2: could digest in one sitting if they wanted to do that.

3980
03:02:57,040 --> 03:02:59,240
Speaker 2: But also be enough stuff to where they go, wo. Man,

3981
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:01,280
Speaker 2: you haven't really good when it's a record in four years,

3982
03:03:01,360 --> 03:03:03,840
Speaker 2: So it better not be ten songs, yeah, or we're

3983
03:03:03,879 --> 03:03:06,680
Speaker 2: gonna be pissed. That's all we get. Big Seeing a

3984
03:03:06,760 --> 03:03:09,240
Speaker 2: sequel to your favorite movie and it's been ten years

3985
03:03:09,280 --> 03:03:12,520
Speaker 2: and it's thirty minutes, and you're like, that's the whole movie,

3986
03:03:12,640 --> 03:03:15,160
Speaker 2: that's it? Like all we got was thirty minutes. It

3987
03:03:15,240 --> 03:03:17,480
Speaker 2: was good, good thirty minutes, but it's supposed to be

3988
03:03:17,520 --> 03:03:18,000
Speaker 2: two hours.

3989
03:03:18,080 --> 03:03:18,680
Speaker 1: What happened?

3990
03:03:18,720 --> 03:03:20,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So it's I don't know.

3991
03:03:20,680 --> 03:03:22,880
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of there's so many unknowns with

3992
03:03:23,080 --> 03:03:25,800
Speaker 2: music too, man, Like anytime I think a song is

3993
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:29,160
Speaker 2: gonna be big, it's usually not. I don't know, it

3994
03:03:29,320 --> 03:03:33,680
Speaker 2: just works that way. So I'm thankful for their having

3995
03:03:33,760 --> 03:03:36,720
Speaker 2: been a lot of songs that I didn't think would

3996
03:03:36,760 --> 03:03:38,840
Speaker 2: be good, because those have all turned out really well.

3997
03:03:39,640 --> 03:03:42,360
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the magic is you just don't try to.

3998
03:03:43,360 --> 03:03:45,400
Speaker 2: I've learned you just can't pick what people are gonna like.

3999
03:03:45,440 --> 03:03:48,400
Speaker 2: They're just gonna like what they like, and you can't

4000
03:03:48,440 --> 03:03:50,320
Speaker 2: really predict it as much as you would think. Every

4001
03:03:50,320 --> 03:03:52,039
Speaker 2: once in a while you get one right, But most

4002
03:03:52,040 --> 03:03:54,440
Speaker 2: of the time it's like, I don't know, I don't

4003
03:03:54,440 --> 03:03:56,360
Speaker 2: know what people are gonna like. You just put them

4004
03:03:56,360 --> 03:03:58,160
Speaker 2: all out and see which one they love the most,

4005
03:03:58,320 --> 03:03:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, it's crazy.

4006
03:04:00,680 --> 03:04:02,440
Speaker 1: We've we've talked about a lot of things today, a

4007
03:04:02,480 --> 03:04:04,400
Speaker 1: lot of subjects have taken place where we have the

4008
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:07,040
Speaker 1: bud light question and we know that anybody would do

4009
03:04:07,120 --> 03:04:10,440
Speaker 1: anything for a nice cold crisp, But what is something

4010
03:04:10,480 --> 03:04:14,160
Speaker 1: that Luke Colmb's would do anything for. I can't say family.

4011
03:04:14,879 --> 03:04:16,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't say family.

4012
03:04:18,800 --> 03:04:20,440
Speaker 1: I have one in my head right now. And it's

4013
03:04:20,480 --> 03:04:23,280
Speaker 1: like he didn't hit this. Is he really what he says?

4014
03:04:23,320 --> 03:04:30,920
Speaker 2: He is probably likedwich. You know, that's definitely close that.

4015
03:04:32,520 --> 03:04:33,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't say this.

4016
03:04:33,959 --> 03:04:35,879
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about stuff that could actually

4017
03:04:35,959 --> 03:04:43,960
Speaker 2: happen Sandwich. Now that you're talking like fantasy stuff.

4018
03:04:44,040 --> 03:04:45,360
Speaker 1: That's I'm talking And.

4019
03:04:48,720 --> 03:04:53,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be Oh, Panther, super Bowl, Panther, the.

4020
03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:59,000
Speaker 5: Super Bowl over in abstinate natty d one, Oh God,

4021
03:04:59,280 --> 03:05:00,720
Speaker 5: yeah yeah.

4022
03:05:00,720 --> 03:05:03,920
Speaker 1: Or fried baloney sandwich, both good.

4023
03:05:07,440 --> 03:05:11,760
Speaker 2: I can get any day. It's pretty good, though. Sandwich

4024
03:05:11,800 --> 03:05:14,960
Speaker 2: has the Super Bowl sandwich. Watching the Panthers play app

4025
03:05:15,000 --> 03:05:20,200
Speaker 2: State in the Super Bowl Perfect day. Yeah, yeah, get

4026
03:05:20,240 --> 03:05:25,440
Speaker 2: the chips off there though, they get the chips chips

4027
03:05:25,480 --> 03:05:30,440
Speaker 2: on sandwiches, but not my something. Some things are sacred,

4028
03:05:30,520 --> 03:05:35,080
Speaker 2: damn it. You know. No, Okay, So if app state Natty, yeah,

4029
03:05:35,320 --> 03:05:39,520
Speaker 2: that would like, But that in the realm of like reality,

4030
03:05:39,600 --> 03:05:42,120
Speaker 2: it's like it can't really happen right now. Just it

4031
03:05:42,280 --> 03:05:44,200
Speaker 2: just can't, like and you guys get that, you know

4032
03:05:44,320 --> 03:05:46,640
Speaker 2: that right now. It's it's not like a thing that

4033
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:51,320
Speaker 2: can happen right now. I would love that. Now, that's wick.

4034
03:05:51,440 --> 03:05:54,440
Speaker 2: That's insane right there. That's way too thick of a

4035
03:05:54,520 --> 03:05:57,840
Speaker 2: bloney slice for a sandwich. That's a blooney steak. I

4036
03:05:57,959 --> 03:06:04,360
Speaker 2: believe they call that. Yeah, yeah, flay baloney but panther

4037
03:06:04,520 --> 03:06:08,320
Speaker 2: super Bowl, Yeah, I'm I'm selling the farm on that, man, Like,

4038
03:06:08,360 --> 03:06:11,400
Speaker 2: I would just do anything for that. That's my Like,

4039
03:06:11,520 --> 03:06:15,320
Speaker 2: I've been there and I've watched us lose two and

4040
03:06:15,440 --> 03:06:18,160
Speaker 2: it's just it sucks. Bro.

4041
03:06:18,840 --> 03:06:21,120
Speaker 1: Do you ever do you ever think about that last

4042
03:06:21,120 --> 03:06:24,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl about Cam Newton not jumping on that fumbel

4043
03:06:24,800 --> 03:06:25,360
Speaker 1: all the time?

4044
03:06:25,440 --> 03:06:26,800
Speaker 2: Bro, It's all I think about as a fan.

4045
03:06:26,879 --> 03:06:28,800
Speaker 1: What were you thinking when Cam Newton didn't jump in

4046
03:06:28,840 --> 03:06:30,039
Speaker 1: that fumble?

4047
03:06:30,800 --> 03:06:34,200
Speaker 2: Because that's like first drive. Second, that was early in

4048
03:06:34,280 --> 03:06:37,119
Speaker 2: the game. I believe the first drive of the game.

4049
03:06:37,160 --> 03:06:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's when the FuMB will happened

4050
03:06:38,640 --> 03:06:40,200
Speaker 2: or not. First drive of the game. I knew we

4051
03:06:40,240 --> 03:06:42,320
Speaker 2: weren't gonna win first drive.

4052
03:06:42,480 --> 03:06:44,520
Speaker 1: That's gotta be that's gotta be a painful reality.

4053
03:06:44,800 --> 03:06:48,320
Speaker 2: It was, and it was like, Wow, Von Miller is

4054
03:06:48,440 --> 03:06:51,560
Speaker 2: going to win this game all by himself. And he did.

4055
03:06:52,680 --> 03:06:55,680
Speaker 2: He was The Broncos defense won the game that game,

4056
03:06:55,760 --> 03:06:59,440
Speaker 2: and it was heartbreaking because we had I mean, dude,

4057
03:06:59,480 --> 03:07:03,320
Speaker 2: we don't you know, we don't choke out against the

4058
03:07:03,400 --> 03:07:05,880
Speaker 2: Falcons in the last game of the season. We're undefeated, dude.

4059
03:07:05,959 --> 03:07:09,480
Speaker 2: We lost one game the whole season, lost so the

4060
03:07:09,520 --> 03:07:12,200
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons the last game of the season and lost

4061
03:07:12,240 --> 03:07:16,400
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and that team was like felt unstoppable

4062
03:07:16,840 --> 03:07:19,360
Speaker 2: in a lot of respects. Man, Like that team just

4063
03:07:19,760 --> 03:07:21,960
Speaker 2: was like, I mean, you have all the pieces are

4064
03:07:22,000 --> 03:07:24,880
Speaker 2: in place, dude, I mean everybody's there, yeah, you know,

4065
03:07:25,080 --> 03:07:27,200
Speaker 2: and you're just like, how did it not happen? How

4066
03:07:27,240 --> 03:07:29,480
Speaker 2: did it not happen? I just don't know.

4067
03:07:29,560 --> 03:07:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

4068
03:07:30,480 --> 03:07:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Keithley like he's up, I mean, top I mean,

4069
03:07:33,040 --> 03:07:35,240
Speaker 2: he's probably my favorite player of all time. I would

4070
03:07:35,240 --> 03:07:38,280
Speaker 2: say it's guy was an animal, bro. This guy was

4071
03:07:38,280 --> 03:07:41,560
Speaker 2: an animal animal love that cat, dude. And he's like

4072
03:07:41,680 --> 03:07:47,080
Speaker 2: no social media, no social media. Guy like, doesn't do

4073
03:07:47,160 --> 03:07:50,199
Speaker 2: anything man like, doesn't do any of the stereotypical stuff

4074
03:07:50,280 --> 03:07:53,520
Speaker 2: that we're all doing. He's everything you want to live back. Yeah,

4075
03:07:54,000 --> 03:07:55,880
Speaker 2: it's like not a like doesn't care to be the

4076
03:07:55,959 --> 03:08:01,400
Speaker 2: center of attention. Guy Like, he's just absolute film rat. Like.

4077
03:08:02,240 --> 03:08:08,760
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Ben Jones, you know, Ben, Ben,

4078
03:08:08,959 --> 03:08:09,840
Speaker 2: Ben was.

4079
03:08:09,879 --> 03:08:11,800
Speaker 1: My dog that said you were a Georgia Bulldog fan

4080
03:08:11,879 --> 03:08:14,520
Speaker 1: to my face. Wow, yeah, gosh, I didn't want to

4081
03:08:14,520 --> 03:08:15,959
Speaker 1: say his name, but since you brought him up, Yes,

4082
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:16,920
Speaker 1: Ben Jones.

4083
03:08:16,800 --> 03:08:24,680
Speaker 2: Ben's a study. He is awesome and bless you and

4084
03:08:25,040 --> 03:08:28,320
Speaker 2: uh I remember Ben was talking to Ben one time

4085
03:08:28,360 --> 03:08:31,040
Speaker 2: and he was still playing. And this is when Keigley

4086
03:08:31,160 --> 03:08:32,440
Speaker 2: that was kind of that. I don't know if it

4087
03:08:32,520 --> 03:08:35,560
Speaker 2: was that year, but it was that same team, same

4088
03:08:35,640 --> 03:08:40,640
Speaker 2: core team, Cam Keighley, Greg Olsen, the whole cast of characters.

4089
03:08:40,720 --> 03:08:44,920
Speaker 2: We had, Thomas Davis. I remember they came to town.

4090
03:08:45,080 --> 03:08:47,880
Speaker 2: The Panthers came and did a joint practice. You're probably

4091
03:08:47,920 --> 03:08:51,160
Speaker 2: on the Titans. I was, and I remember being telling

4092
03:08:51,240 --> 03:08:55,080
Speaker 2: me as I was asking him about the whole Keighley thing,

4093
03:08:55,080 --> 03:08:57,240
Speaker 2: and he was like, bro, that guy's insane, Like what

4094
03:08:57,280 --> 03:08:59,080
Speaker 2: do you mean. It's like he knew every play we

4095
03:08:59,160 --> 03:09:03,480
Speaker 2: were gonna run fire practice and he's like, so you know,

4096
03:09:03,600 --> 03:09:06,040
Speaker 2: Thomas Davis went to Georgia then went to Georgia obviously,

4097
03:09:06,360 --> 03:09:08,199
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, we were going to get lunch

4098
03:09:08,600 --> 03:09:10,760
Speaker 2: and he's like, dude, lets him bit Keithley to lunch.

4099
03:09:11,080 --> 03:09:13,080
Speaker 2: And Thomas Davis was like, oh, dude, he's not going

4100
03:09:13,120 --> 03:09:15,160
Speaker 2: to lunch. He's like, what do you mean He's not

4101
03:09:15,240 --> 03:09:17,200
Speaker 2: going to lunch. He's like, he's gonna watch film. Dude,

4102
03:09:18,120 --> 03:09:20,320
Speaker 2: He's not going to lunch. Like he's the only guy,

4103
03:09:20,400 --> 03:09:25,560
Speaker 2: like he never he doesn't do anything else, Like he

4104
03:09:25,760 --> 03:09:29,200
Speaker 2: practices and watches film and works out and goes to

4105
03:09:29,280 --> 03:09:32,040
Speaker 2: bed and like that's what he does. And he's not

4106
03:09:32,160 --> 03:09:34,440
Speaker 2: gonna like hang out. He doesn't want to like hang

4107
03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:37,240
Speaker 2: out or like yeah, he rumor has it. When he

4108
03:09:37,280 --> 03:09:38,920
Speaker 2: first got in the league, he didn't buy a TV

4109
03:09:40,520 --> 03:09:45,360
Speaker 2: d He just had a football on the wall, dude,

4110
03:09:45,360 --> 03:09:46,280
Speaker 2: and he just watched it.

4111
03:09:46,480 --> 03:09:46,720
Speaker 1: Dude.

4112
03:09:47,040 --> 03:09:50,080
Speaker 2: He just sat there looking at it. I'm getting that ball.

4113
03:09:50,920 --> 03:09:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm getting that ball.

4114
03:09:52,680 --> 03:09:55,760
Speaker 1: He was wild, bro, he was incredible man.

4115
03:09:55,959 --> 03:09:59,320
Speaker 2: When he retired early, I was devastated, saying, dude.

4116
03:09:59,120 --> 03:10:01,160
Speaker 1: When we were we so that practice was over, that

4117
03:10:01,280 --> 03:10:04,080
Speaker 1: joint practice. When we go to teams. The first play

4118
03:10:04,200 --> 03:10:06,800
Speaker 1: we came out, He's like, run this way, and I'm

4119
03:10:06,840 --> 03:10:09,960
Speaker 1: like thinking, how the fuck does he know that? Like,

4120
03:10:10,040 --> 03:10:11,879
Speaker 1: how would you have any idea? It's the first day.

4121
03:10:13,560 --> 03:10:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably.

4122
03:10:17,640 --> 03:10:19,720
Speaker 1: You think Connor was working with him back then. This

4123
03:10:19,840 --> 03:10:23,359
Speaker 1: had to be what like sixty us was it sixteen

4124
03:10:23,480 --> 03:10:24,840
Speaker 1: or seven stallions?

4125
03:10:25,800 --> 03:10:29,560
Speaker 2: Such a cool Connor stallions.

4126
03:10:28,959 --> 03:10:32,920
Speaker 1: Consh But yeah, dude, he called out I think there

4127
03:10:33,000 --> 03:10:36,080
Speaker 1: was like nine plays in that one verse ones and

4128
03:10:36,160 --> 03:10:39,000
Speaker 1: he called out seven of them. And when we called

4129
03:10:39,040 --> 03:10:40,600
Speaker 1: the screen and he called out the screen, I was like, well,

4130
03:10:40,600 --> 03:10:44,520
Speaker 1: this is dead even before the ball snaps, like it's

4131
03:10:44,560 --> 03:10:46,520
Speaker 1: over and we're not going to check in anything right

4132
03:10:46,560 --> 03:10:47,560
Speaker 1: now because it's practice.

4133
03:10:47,640 --> 03:10:48,800
Speaker 2: How do you beat that? Dude?

4134
03:10:50,040 --> 03:10:53,640
Speaker 1: You We would play the Panthers and Rabel, the head coach,

4135
03:10:53,640 --> 03:10:56,680
Speaker 1: would come and be like, you blocked fifty nine fifty nine, right, yeah,

4136
03:10:57,680 --> 03:11:00,520
Speaker 1: you block fifty nine, You're gonna you're don't have an

4137
03:11:00,520 --> 03:11:02,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to win the game. You don't block him, the

4138
03:11:02,760 --> 03:11:05,920
Speaker 1: game's over. Like that's how significant he was to his team.

4139
03:11:07,160 --> 03:11:07,520
Speaker 1: It's just.

4140
03:11:09,000 --> 03:11:11,640
Speaker 2: I remember when we drafted him. I was like, I

4141
03:11:11,760 --> 03:11:14,880
Speaker 2: was like, who the fuck is this guy? I'm like, bro,

4142
03:11:15,400 --> 03:11:20,280
Speaker 2: get me, like, get me, give me somebody, dude, Like

4143
03:11:20,400 --> 03:11:24,280
Speaker 2: who's this guy? Dude? This guy hung out in high school?

4144
03:11:25,360 --> 03:11:27,680
Speaker 2: Is this guy? And then he's not though he's not

4145
03:11:27,760 --> 03:11:28,000
Speaker 2: a guy.

4146
03:11:30,720 --> 03:11:33,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that MC.

4147
03:11:34,600 --> 03:11:38,040
Speaker 2: Ripped shred it out, shred it out, but yeah, look

4148
03:11:38,080 --> 03:11:42,520
Speaker 2: at this guy. Killer Stallion Clark Kent is good. Yeah,

4149
03:11:43,360 --> 03:11:45,920
Speaker 2: truly like put the uniform on and just become an

4150
03:11:46,000 --> 03:11:46,920
Speaker 2: absolute lunatic.

4151
03:11:47,000 --> 03:11:49,879
Speaker 1: As he was like.

4152
03:11:49,920 --> 03:11:52,120
Speaker 2: A pretty good ship talker man. That was kind of

4153
03:11:52,160 --> 03:11:54,840
Speaker 2: some rumors going around like he was like, uh, because

4154
03:11:54,879 --> 03:11:56,840
Speaker 2: he's real, Like when you meet him, he's real, kind

4155
03:11:56,879 --> 03:12:00,240
Speaker 2: of like mild put together, like real timid. Some of

4156
03:12:00,280 --> 03:12:02,040
Speaker 2: the guys I know were like, did he get out there?

4157
03:12:02,080 --> 03:12:03,760
Speaker 2: He was like vicious out there?

4158
03:12:03,840 --> 03:12:05,680
Speaker 1: Dude. He never said a word.

4159
03:12:06,760 --> 03:12:11,800
Speaker 2: Even worse worse, like when we did that practices, you're

4160
03:12:11,840 --> 03:12:16,240
Speaker 2: not scared of that guy till you are? Is hell?

4161
03:12:16,800 --> 03:12:19,640
Speaker 1: Is he the most star stroke you've ever been meeting somebody.

4162
03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:22,720
Speaker 2: Uh well, I met him on FaceTime or on zoom

4163
03:12:22,840 --> 03:12:24,760
Speaker 2: and like a zoom interview, So I didn't have a

4164
03:12:24,879 --> 03:12:28,400
Speaker 2: chance to be I mean, definitely some of the Panthers

4165
03:12:28,480 --> 03:12:31,160
Speaker 2: guys man, like, especially the guys when I was growing up,

4166
03:12:31,200 --> 03:12:34,600
Speaker 2: I would probably be like Steve Smith, my god's fucking

4167
03:12:34,720 --> 03:12:38,800
Speaker 2: smitty dude, Like watch this guy, like Moose and Mohammed.

4168
03:12:39,280 --> 03:12:47,600
Speaker 2: I would be like Moose, Ricky Prole, Moose, Brad Hoover,

4169
03:12:48,160 --> 03:12:51,360
Speaker 2: oh Man, Yeah he got him, dude, Jake the Lome,

4170
03:12:51,600 --> 03:12:54,640
Speaker 2: Jake the Snake. Oh man, he was all raging cajun.

4171
03:12:55,200 --> 03:12:55,720
Speaker 2: He was great.

4172
03:12:55,840 --> 03:12:56,680
Speaker 1: Who are the backs?

4173
03:12:58,680 --> 03:13:01,959
Speaker 2: Steward? But who was uh? Angel Williams, Angela Williams.

4174
03:13:02,320 --> 03:13:02,920
Speaker 1: Didn't you smack?

4175
03:13:03,000 --> 03:13:10,560
Speaker 2: Jonathan Stewart, Mike Tolbert, Tim Biakabatuca, Mike Tolbert, wild pull,

4176
03:13:11,160 --> 03:13:13,000
Speaker 2: So I got some wild I got some wild deep

4177
03:13:13,120 --> 03:13:20,080
Speaker 2: Rodney Pete. That's first ballot cat right there. You know

4178
03:13:20,760 --> 03:13:27,000
Speaker 2: who else? Chris Gamble, Captain Captain Monolin. Yeah, dude, there's

4179
03:13:27,040 --> 03:13:30,000
Speaker 2: some deep, deep knowledge going on with me. I'm trying

4180
03:13:30,040 --> 03:13:31,879
Speaker 2: to think if we had some one else. I hate

4181
03:13:31,879 --> 03:13:33,040
Speaker 2: to cut this shore, but I have to. I have

4182
03:13:33,120 --> 03:13:35,080
Speaker 2: to leave I have to get back to the house

4183
03:13:36,040 --> 03:13:39,320
Speaker 2: because Nanny's got it. She's she's doing it. She's got

4184
03:13:39,360 --> 03:13:40,600
Speaker 2: an appointment of four forty five.

4185
03:13:41,840 --> 03:13:45,480
Speaker 1: That's the end of the show. Guys, thank you so much. Subscribe.

4186
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Speaker 2: I like a man that practices what he preaches. Dad life.

4187
03:13:51,400 --> 03:13:53,000
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm a good dad. You get up in

4188
03:13:53,040 --> 03:13:56,920
Speaker 2: the interview. Good dad. Confirmed, good dad, Save travel Save travels.

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Speaker 1: She had nowhere to go right now. He's just he's

4190
03:13:59,360 --> 03:14:01,160
Speaker 1: just I know, I tell I have to leave it four.

4191
03:14:01,240 --> 03:14:04,520
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do that right now. Yeah, that's a

4192
03:14:04,520 --> 03:14:08,600
Speaker 1: good question. Oh that's a different one. Confirmed, good debt.

4193
03:14:08,640 --> 03:14:08,920
Speaker 2: All right.

4194
03:14:10,440 --> 03:14:12,800
Speaker 1: He We appreciate you coming, man. I know that when

4195
03:14:12,840 --> 03:14:15,240
Speaker 1: we did Tight Ends and Friends, it was like that

4196
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Speaker 1: little conversation we had in that back green room. We're like, dude,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get this guy in the pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

4199
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Speaker 1: And it's taken a little bit, it has, but we

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Speaker 1: finally got it.

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Speaker 2: Man. We did it. In between dadding well done the journey.

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Speaker 1: Here we go on, good time, good time, looking forward

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Speaker 1: to your your commitment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, January night, Jennery seven on the bus right here.

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