1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Football is about the Jimmy's and Joe's, and x'es and o's. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Check Mill York vote. Thank you, Bruce. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: It's time to get out the chockboard and diagram some plays. 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: Here's what it all starts right here. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 4: That's why day money Christmas. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: This is Inside Football with former Colts and NFL coach 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Rick Venturi. 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: Welcome everybody to the in season edition of Inside Football 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 4: with Rick Ventury, our first episode coming to you live 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: from Grand Park as we tape this after day number 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: five of Colts Camp. The second day of full padded 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: practice for the Indianapolis Colts Camp is brought to you 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 4: by Course and Fire and Security and we're back for 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 4: another year. Twenty twenty three is upon us with Rick 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Ventury in season style r V. This is your sanctuary, 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: This is your safe place right this is your trust tree. 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: That practice field about twenty yards from here, that's when 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: you are in your element. 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: How it's camp going for you so far? 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: Well, you know it is number forty two. I hate 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: to tell people that forty two, but I love it. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: I love every bit. I've always been a training camp 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: guy and every year to be it's you know, you 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: turn the clock forward and we're on our way. This 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: one's particularly exciting, I think, you know, because of the 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: newness of it and what the potential is, and so 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm really enjoyed. I always love coach training camp. I 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: actually always loved the first two weeks because it is 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: really the pure teaching phase. You know, it's before the 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: pressure of games and you're really teaching and bringing guys along, 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: and that was always one of my favorite periods of 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: the year. 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: We've got a lot to get into on our first 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: installment on this podcast the Colts, as we said, five 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: practices in two of those have been in full pads. 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: You talk about the newness, you have to start at 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: the top with the newness there with the head coach, 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: Shane Steike, and he's operating his first training camp as 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: a head coach. Right been very established as an offensive 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: coordinator at other stops in the NFL. But what do 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: you make of his camp in terms of operation, crispness, 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: up tempo. What do you make of the way the 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: Colts are practicing so far in the can me it's. 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Two things, and there two things I really like. One 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 2: it's business like and he's business like he's not a raw, 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: raw guy, you know, he's not a fluff guy. It's football, football, football. 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 2: The other thing I really like about the practices themselves 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: is they move quickly and fast. He gets a ton 50 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: done in a short amount of time. This was actually 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: probably the longest one today at an hour and a half. 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: I mean to think about it, and what that tells 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: me is that they do their their meeting work around 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: the clock, they do their walkthroughs, but when they come 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: out here it is just go. It's go, go, go go. 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: So I think the key to it is will we 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: maintain that consistency and that level as training camp kind 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: of drags on. Now it's kind of cool with bringing 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: in the Bears, and then we got Philadelphia, so there's 60 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: a lot of incentive for us to stay at that 61 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: high level. But that's always the key in training camp. 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Can you sustain that high level? You know? 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 4: If it's funny if you look at the camp schedule 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: just in totality, big picture, the week that we're in 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: right now, this is kind of the meat of training 66 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: camp because the cults are practicing this week. They practice 67 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: Monday today, on Tuesday off day Wednesday, the cults are 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: going to practice Thursday. Excuse me, yeah, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday, 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: and then next week going into that first preseason game 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: against the Bills, the Cults will physically practice only twice 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: going into that game. 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the big what I would call installation week. 73 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: This is the installation week. This is a real good 74 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: look for all the young kids. Reps are still shared 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: pretty equally, a little bit a little bit loaded with 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: the ones, but overall fairly equal. And so this is 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: this is real football. And like I said, installation and 78 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: teach this week. 79 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: Today at practice on Tuesday, we saw some third down focus, 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: we saw some red zone focus. But obviously a lot 81 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: of the people that are coming out here in the 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: crowds have been fantastic so far. But one of the 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: main drawls, obviously is number five Anthony Richardson. He's had 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: a good camp so far, minus the nose surgery, the 85 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: procedure that he had done over the weekend on Sunday, 86 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: missed some practice time on Monday. But what have been 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: your early impression so far and just in terms of 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: how comfortable he looks at this point. 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you can't hide talent. I mean, 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: the guy is very very special. I mean he has size, 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: he shows speed. They ran a designer today and he 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: popped through there with explosiveness and size. You know, he's 93 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: got a big time arm. And I think what I've 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: been impressed with is the tightness of his throws. He's 95 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: very compact thrower. He's not a wind up guy. He's 96 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: not just like an athlete throwing the ball. He's a 97 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: very accomplished in terms of mechanics. I think he looks 98 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: real good. He also he has juice. There's something about him. 99 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: He's got body language, has got juice. You know, maybe 100 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: it's just the pure stature, but you feel he's exciting now. 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Obviously he has like all kids at this stage. And 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: this is also one of the reasons there's so much 103 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: emphasis on third down and red zone because that's going 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: to be the issue. Those are the things that he 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: has to climb, those mountains, and let's face it, we're 106 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: all about specialized football. I thought Saturday night, I thought 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: he struggled a little bit on third down. I thought 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: he was a little unsure, he was erratic, and you 109 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: expect that. I'm not being critical. I thought today in 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: the third down period, it was better and so you 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: saw improvement right off the bat. I think he has 112 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: the temperament with those tools that he can overcome in 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: my opinion, and it might not be tomorrow. I mean, 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: this is a process, but I think he can overcome 115 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: all perceived deficiencies are inexperience issues overall. 116 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: Where has he grown? Where have you seen that next 117 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: step from him? From the end of the mini camp 118 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: until the start of training camp. 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: It just seems like there's he's comfortable. You know that 120 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: that's kind of vague in a sense. And again there 121 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: is some erratic throws at times, just you know, just 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: off balance or or he gets to relate and he 123 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: gets it out of there. But I feel like when 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: he walks in the huddle, when he walks on the ball, 125 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: what I'm seeing, as opposed to like rookie mini camp, 126 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: which seems like a year ago. Now, what I'm seeing 127 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: is a more comfortable guy, a guy that gets in 128 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: that huddle, and I think the players already respond to him. 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: I really do. 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: Are there things big picture wise that that tell you 131 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: he can handle this body language wise, comfort in the huddle? 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: What are some things that tell you he can be 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: a starting quarterback in this league? 134 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: As early as early in the season. 135 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: Well, just the way the game has evolved. Okay, the 136 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: game is constantly evolving, and now it has evolved to 137 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: the standpoint that half of it is the game that's 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: played on Saturday. It's very different than in my day 139 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: when you brought a quarterback in and the NFL game 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: was all dropped back and it was all different, and 141 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: it was all sophisticated coverages. A kid comes in now, 142 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: and particularly with a coach like Steichen, who has just 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: gone through this progression with Jalen Hurtz, fifty percent of it, 144 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: he's already got it. I mean, he's got all the 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: zone reads and the RPOs. So what his emphasis has 146 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: to be, as we as we alluded to before, is 147 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: he's got to be in those third down issues, that 148 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: red zone issues that really go back to sophisticated defenses, 149 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: lots of pressure. You know you're not gonna be able 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: to hold the ball. He tends to hold it a 151 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: little bit right now because just he's deciphering as he goes, 152 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: and the more they do with him, the more that 153 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: third down where you just got to get rid of 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: it and the windows are really really tight. 155 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: Those those mistakes that you do see out of him 156 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: during camp. 157 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: As a coach, how do you process those? 158 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: I mean, how do you compartmentalize being critical but also 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: knowing this is all part of the process, this is 160 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: all part of the development. 161 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, I think you can teach 162 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: without being critical. I mean, you know you your critical 163 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: code from the standpoint is you're pointing out the airs 164 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: and you just you can't look at enough film, You 165 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: can't get enough reps, really, and so every rep he 166 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: gets him, he gets put him further along in that process. 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: And honestly, Matt, you and I have talked about this 168 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: since the draft night. You're only gonna learn by doing Okay, 169 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: You're only you're going to be in that situation Shane 170 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: makes the correction. The next time you see it, Boom, 171 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: You're better. 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: Right, no, no, no, but right. 173 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: In other words, you have to do it over and over. 174 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: My good friend Nick Saban I always quote him on 175 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: one thing. He always used to say, you don't practice 176 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: until you get something right. You practice until you can't 177 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: get something wrong. You get it to where So it's 178 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: it's not in eight with him yet. You know the 179 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: talent is there, but that's where he has. 180 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: To grow, and he is splitting first team reps at 181 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: quarterback with Gardner Minshew because Richardson didn't miss that game 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: or that practice, I should say on Monday. You know, 183 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 4: Minshew is further ahead in terms of just overall reps 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: and time on task with the first team offense. Rick, 185 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: and it's not surprising to either of us that he 186 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: looks as good as he does. What would be your 187 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: level of confidence in Gardner Minshew if, hypothetically, if the 188 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: Colts had to. 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: Go that way at the beginning of the season. 190 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Minshew's had twenty four starts in this league. I 191 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: think his touchdown to intercession ratio is like forty seven 192 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: to eleven. I mean, no, he's you know, he's just 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: sixty two percent passer. I mean he's done in this camp. 194 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: It's over seven, done a lot of good things. Yeah, 195 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, the two games against US, it's five hundred 196 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: plus passing yards. These were back to back six touchdowns. 197 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: He threw from nineteen out of twenty in the one 198 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 2: game and he beat US twice and I think he 199 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: scored forty five points. So he is capable of playing 200 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: on Sunday. You know that now he really is just 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: the opposite of Richardson at this point. He's savvy. He's 202 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: gonna get you in the right play. If you watch him, 203 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: he's outstanding before the snap, he's getting people lined up. 204 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: He knows where to go. He's gonna go with the 205 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: ball to what they give you. Okay. And in Gardner's case, 206 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: if he's playing against a lot of zone defense, like 207 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: we were all zone in those games with Matt back, 208 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: then okay, he'll rip you. Yeah, he'll just rip you 209 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: because he's he's accurate, he knows where to go. The 210 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: only thing that separates Gardner is he's not a great athlete. 211 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: He's a decent athlete. He's got pocket mobility. But you 212 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: know the difference is so vast when you look at 213 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: him and Anthony. But the other thing that he lacks 214 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: that stops him, I think from being the long term 215 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: top flight he doesn't have a gun. He's got an 216 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: accurate arm and he's got placement. But when you get 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: down in those when it's for real and you get 218 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: in those third downs and those red zones, you know, 219 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: those windows are that tight. Yeah, and there's times where 220 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: you just have to nail a tight spiral in there. Now, 221 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: at some point Anthony can do that. I mean that 222 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: ball comes out of there. It's an aspirin tablet. He 223 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: throws a really tight spiral. But that's the only thing. Now, 224 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: if you're playing with Richardson, I'm confident, but it's he 225 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: is going to be more of a complimentary quarterback. You know, 226 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: Nicol and Dim, you do the right thing, don't make mistakes. 227 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: The rest of the team gonna have to play real well, 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: You're not gonna be the big play guy. 229 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: All right, Let's stay on offense. Let's go to running back. 230 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 4: We know about the Jonathan Taylor saga. He's still on pup. 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: Colts do expect him back whenever he can clear that 232 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 4: that physical hurdle to get back onto the field. Unfortunately, 233 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 4: also Rick, the Colts also experienced a bad break earlier 234 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: this week. Zach Moss injured on Monday. Turns out he 235 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: broke his arm. Obviously, with that, he's gonna miss some 236 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: significant time. So what's your conference level On the rest 237 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: of the running back room. You've got Dion Jackson played 238 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: a significant amount of snaps last year, Jake Funk, Xavier Scott, 239 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: He's an undrafted player out of Maine. What's your confidence 240 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: level and the rest of that group outside of Jonathan 241 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: Taylor and Zach Moss. 242 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't. I mean, it's problematic to me, 243 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: There's no question about it. We have to wait and 244 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: see again. What you hope is that the game has 245 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: evolved to where you're running those running backs on RPOs 246 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: and zone reads and when they are touching the ball 247 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: it's versus lighter boxes. I saw something yesterday that in 248 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: the league last year that the distribution of thirty four 249 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: percent of the running backs went down to twenty six. Well, 250 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: that's not just passing involve That means a quarterbacks like 251 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: a Josh Allen and Dalen Hurts. That percentage is being 252 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: made up by those guys. But it's problematic because, let's 253 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: face it, Jonathan Taylor is elite. Mean, Jonathan Taylor gives 254 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: you a you know, hopefully we get that done because 255 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: he is a guy that is a home run hitter 256 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: on a team that hits a lot of singles. I mean, 257 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: he can do that. Uh, it gets tougher without Zach 258 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: because Zach's pretty good first down back. So the rest 259 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: of it. I always have liked. I like Dion, you know, 260 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I I like Dion. You know, he caught 261 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: a lot of balls for us last year when he 262 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: was in there. I think he can run the football. Uh, 263 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be running back by committee, which a 264 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: lot of teams are. The kid that I'm most interested in, 265 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: the guy that's kind of and we'll talk about him later, 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: but is that I I kind of like Hull. I 267 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: think that Paul may be a guy that can be 268 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: a third down guy here, you know, and you're gonna 269 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: have the name as well. Yeah, in the running game. Yeah, 270 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: on third down running game, third down pass protection, you know, 271 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: third down passing game, that kind of stuff. I I 272 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: I think Dion at this point, if you're playing a 273 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: game tomorrow, Deon's your running back, I mean, and then 274 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna rest him, and you got to figure out 275 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: who could who you spell him, you know, whether it's 276 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: Funk or one of those guys. And you might still 277 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you might still bring somebody in 278 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: before this is all over, because this is you know, 279 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: but again, the biggest thing that I think we miss. 280 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: I think we can play with a running back in 281 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: today's style, but what you miss with Jonathan is the 282 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: home run hitter, the guy that can finish the drive 283 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: with a forty five yard run. 284 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about that. 285 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: We'll see what all transpires with Jonathan Taylor coming off 286 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: pop win, and if that happens, that's Rick vent Tury. 287 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 4: This is inside football. Let's go defense, year number two 288 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: under Gus Bradley. Rick, where do you see the defense 289 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: more comfortable with the core of that unit coming back 290 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: for another year under I. 291 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: Count to really define that from what I've seen here, Okay, 292 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: the most comfort the most improved that I see is 293 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: what I call the second level core. Okay, that is 294 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: the nickel, the Mike, and the will backer or the diningbacker. 295 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: And so when I'm looking at Kenny Moore, Kenny Moore's back, 296 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Kenny Moore is ready to go. Yeah, Okay, he wasn't 297 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: right last year mentally it showed he never got it. 298 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: Really, that's been one of the big bright spots. 299 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: And man, he he's got it. Then, you know, Xavier, 300 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: I mean Zaier has got it. I mean Franklin has 301 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: got it, Speed has got it. I mean the improvement 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: on those three guys as a unit, I mean they 303 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: will bring it and they're smart in that year of 304 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: experience to answer your question. Now, obviously the elephant in 305 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,479 Speaker 2: the room is the guy that looks really good athletically, 306 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: is Shaquille is Leonard. Leonard looks really good now for 307 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: good reason. You know, we haven't thrown him into full 308 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: contact yet, yep, And that will be the divider. But 309 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: in terms of that core right there, that's where I 310 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: see huge improvement. 311 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: Based on his movements, Shack Leonard. That is I mean, 312 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: do you think that based on what you are seeing 313 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: that he can give it a ride? 314 00:15:59,600 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: Week one? 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: Let me say this, he's a totally different guy than 316 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: he was a year ago. Today athletically he looks ready. Athletically, 317 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: he looks like he could be that guy. But honestly, 318 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: we won't know when you've had back issues. You're not 319 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: gonna know till you get full meadow jacket contact. And 320 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: that hasn't happened, and it probably it shouldn't happen for 321 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: a while. You want to ease that back. But in 322 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: terms of athletically, and the other thing that you see 323 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: with him is he's Shaquille is back to Darius body language. Yes, 324 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: and that's what we want. We want Shaquille to play 325 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: like there and you know, when when a guy's hurt 326 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: and he's not ready or you could. You could see 327 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: it in Kennymore last year. You know he wasn't right. 328 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: And there's a body language that you know, somebody like you, 329 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: somebody like me. I see that. 330 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: I can see around it every day. 331 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: You see it every day and his his spirits are high. 332 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: And with with Leonard, I mean we talked with him 333 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: directly a handful of days ago and gone in the offseason. 334 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: Stefan Gilmour and Rodney McLeod Yunik and got Away, Bobby 335 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: o'carake some of your best players on defense and playmakers, right, 336 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: guys that you know won your games. In the case 337 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 4: of Stefan Gilmour and last year Rick, how imperative is 338 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: it that the Colts do get some of that playmaking 339 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: ability back on defense with Leonard Nickson. 340 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's really I'm going to answer this. It 341 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: sounds a little wordy. There's four areas and we'll talk 342 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: about this as the preseason goes on. There's really four 343 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: kires that Colts have to fix. Okay, one scoring, okay, 344 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: two fourth quarter defense, three turnover differential and four red 345 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: zone both ways. Yeah, those four things we're bottom feeders, 346 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: and that's why you end up for twelve and one. 347 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: Now the critical one is the turnover differential. And we 348 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: go from second in the league. Okay, we go from 349 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: second in the league to thirty second. Yeah, in one year. Right, 350 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: And you know what, eberfluss with the Bears. Their defense 351 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: isn't up number two. So it tells me that if 352 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: you get. 353 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 3: Kill back very much. 354 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: He was no doubt even with the Bears, they didn't. 355 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't just system, is my point. You know, he is. 356 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: He's rare. I think as a pure linebacker, I don't 357 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: think he brings anything that Speed and Franklin don't bring really. 358 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're even more physical, but he 359 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: brings he has that knack. He has that he's just 360 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: a ball magnet like I've never seen, and that makes 361 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: the difference in winning and losing. 362 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: That's Rick Venturi. This is inside football, staying on defense. 363 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: That cornerback depth wide open, Rick. I mean, rookies, Juju Brint's, 364 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: Darius Rush, they're missing some valuable time on the field. 365 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: They miss another practice today as we tape this on Tuesday. 366 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 4: But that's opening the door for a guy like Darryl 367 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: Baker junior, and he was running with the first team 368 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 4: defense in the spring, and you thought to yourself, this 369 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: guy's could he could play. He's a player, but he's 370 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: primarily out there because of injuries. But now that those 371 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: injuries aren't lingering long and Baker is proving that he's 372 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: a viable option, how much in the mix should Baker 373 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: be to be out there with the starting defense when 374 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 4: we start playing for real? 375 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 2: I mean, there is no doubt. And this is how 376 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: you have to look at as a coach. You look 377 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: at a long term. But every night you say, who 378 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: do we play with if we play tomorrow? 379 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: Right? 380 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we had that discussion every night and I 381 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: still do that. I play that game in my head. Sure, 382 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: what's our starting lineup today? We got a game tomorrow? Well, 383 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: if you have a game tomorrow, Baker's your starting third corner. 384 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: I mean, and you're gonna be in sub seventy percent 385 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: of the time. So Baker's gonna be in the ball 386 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: game seventy percent of the time. What's pretty interesting is 387 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: he and Flowers because we already talked about Kenny, who's 388 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: a you know, he's a fixture inside, but you're basically 389 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: gonna probably go into the season with two undrafted free 390 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: agents and Flower and Baker on the outside. Now, both 391 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: of those guys a battle, and Baker particularly has really 392 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: fought his tail off and I've done you know, it's 393 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: funny might pick to click last year was Flowers, my 394 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: guy that I said, you know, when we talked about 395 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: who's the under the radar, it was Flowers, and I 396 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: thought he had great talent and he ended up I 397 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: was prophetic on that. And so Baker, I really didn't 398 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: know much about it, even though he was with us, 399 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: and I saw Mini camp primarily, and then he started, 400 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, and he starts growing on you, a little 401 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: bit growing on you. So I went back and researched 402 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: those guys coming out of college, both those guys, because 403 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: they're under out of free agents. But you know, the 404 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: interesting thing is both of them run exactly the same 405 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: forty at four four three, and that's really important to me. 406 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: I just I just put such a premium on speed, 407 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: on catch up speed as young corners, because you're always 408 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: young corners are gonna get beat at time, They're gonna 409 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: get beat on release, and you've got to be able 410 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: to run to get back there and make it so 411 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm I'm really high on the fact that both of 412 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: those guys can run. They're both competitors, they were both 413 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: track guys, so they it's legitimate speed. As a matter 414 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: of fact, this kind of surprised me. But Baker was 415 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: the long jump champion in the state of Florida, I 416 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: mean state of Georgia. Yeah, you know, that's not the 417 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: state of North Dakota. 418 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: That's the state's not Wyoming. 419 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: I mean his verdicant Wells and his uh his long 420 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: jump at at Prude was like one one six, one 421 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six inches, So I mean, so you know, 422 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: and I see him out here bad lun. I saw 423 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: him battle with Pittman yesterday, dog dogged him one on 424 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: one on the press. So I mean, I think that's 425 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: how it's going to go. I mean, I think those 426 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: rookies have missed way too much football kids. 427 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you how alarming is. 428 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: That They're alarming because you know, uh, and I think 429 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: particularly for Brents, because Brents is not He's not a 430 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: big catch up speed guy, and and so technique now 431 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: is vital, and it's vital with those rookies and missing 432 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: all this practice. What that takes away from is your 433 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: basic technique. Yeah. 434 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: That's Rick Ventury inside Football here our first installment this 435 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: week as the cults are practicing several times up here 436 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: at Grand Park, brock By Course and Fire and Security 437 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 4: wrapping up here, Rick, I mean some guys that are 438 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 4: standing out to you in a variety of ways. Guys 439 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: that have jumped on your radar that were not on 440 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: your radar last Wednesday when camp started. 441 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and we just we just talked about him. 442 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: But he's well off on the radar now. Baker, Okay, 443 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean Baker. Baker was a guy that I wouldn't 444 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: have recognized in a rookie mini camp or I'll be 445 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: frank about it. You know, I know he was here 446 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: and he played some special teams, but I had to, 447 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: you know, I had to look him up. But he 448 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: he is. The reason I use him is he has 449 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: gone from that from under the radar to he's starting 450 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: tomorrow Nickel. 451 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: Uh. 452 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: The other guy that I think is under the radar 453 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: that I think has a chance, particularly because of the 454 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: situation with Moss, is Hall. I think Hall has a 455 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: chance to be that role player, have a role here 456 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: on that offensive committee now. And then you know some 457 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: other guys you know that I've just seen, and these 458 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: guys flashed. You know, Ada Bore. You know, he had 459 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: a real flash, good rush. This was the first time 460 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: we did one on ones today. We didn't do him yesterday, 461 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: and he flashed a real good inside move. And so 462 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: with guys like that, I'm looking for flashes. I'm not 463 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: looking for finished products. Avery has done that a little 464 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: bit on the ayah on the outside. And I don't 465 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: know if I'm going to say his name right, but 466 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: the other kid that has flashed to me on special 467 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: teams and flashed today is old Loubi. It's not very 468 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: big number Livy, number fifty, and so you know. And 469 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: then the guy that I think will end up having 470 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: a terrific training camp, probably a lot of second half catches, 471 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: will be Fernia. I think he's really a classy little receiver. 472 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: I think you know he'll he'll team up with mister 473 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: August ellingher they'll kill it. Now, the other guy, I've 474 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: got to mention, and he I've never I can't quite 475 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: come to grips why he hasn't just caught on and 476 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: done it. And that's Strawn Strang had it. I said, 477 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: it's August. He's mister August, and it's August first. And 478 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: he damned if he did have two really good plays that. 479 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: I mean, he has a big time at point jump ball. 480 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: He has one coming over the middle, and so you know, 481 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: he's keeping himself in the mix, you know, and that's 482 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: going to be very competitive. And you said it to 483 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: me the other day. The amount this is what preseason 484 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: is going to be fun. The amount of competition for 485 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: roster spots and not necessarily starting spots, but roster spots 486 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: is pretty large. 487 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 488 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Normally it's somewhere around seven or eight if you 489 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: just do basic roster mechanics in that what I mean. 490 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: You know, you normally keep three running backs, six wide receivers, 491 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: three tight ends, so on and so forth. So if 492 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: you just do that math, I counted up twelve roster 493 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: spots team. 494 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: And when you said that to me, I went back 495 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: and thought about it. He guys, absolutely right. 496 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: That just means that guys that on paper right now, 497 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: you wouldn't. Clay is just locks to make this team. Yeah, 498 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: So something to keep an eye on as we progress 499 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: here during training camp. Lastly, for you, Rick put that 500 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: coaching hat back on what kinds of improvement do you 501 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: need to see out of this Colts team the rest 502 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: of this week, the weekend, and then going into next 503 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: week before you play that first Well, the. 504 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: Thing that I've always looked for, and we'll we'll look ahead. 505 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: We'll talk about this in detail next week. But the 506 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 2: thing that I always looked for in the opener, opening 507 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: preseason game, and that's that's your first hurdle, okay, is 508 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: I've always wanted my number ones Okay to look good. 509 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: Okay and Andy. By looking good, I mean execution. I 510 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: don't want to see the ball on the ground. You 511 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: know they've gotten the majority of reps from the beginning. 512 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: I've always been it's always been very important. I always work. 513 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: I always drilled it with those guys that when the 514 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: ones are playing their ones, you're carrying the banner. Yeah okay, ye, 515 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: you're you're getting ready to play, uh you know the Jaguars, 516 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: and so I want you to play really well. Now 517 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: we if we go with the rookie quarterback right off 518 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: the bat, we're gonna live with some mistakes. I want 519 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: the one offense and one defense to look really, really good. 520 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: And then what I'm looking for with the rest of 521 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: the guys is just consistent development, and I want you 522 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: to flash for me. Okay, I don't expect you to 523 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: come in and be a you know, an NFL refined player. 524 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: But if I brought you in here to pass rush, 525 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: show me a pass rush. You know, if I brought 526 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: you in here to cover kid like Jalen Jones, you know, 527 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: he's getting an opportunity absolutely as a corner yep, that 528 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: he would have never gotten probably, you know, had this 529 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: not happen. And he's done some pretty good things. So 530 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: let's let's see him under fire against different competition. 531 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: That's Rick Venturrey. This is Inside Football, and we are back. 532 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: We're doing it every week, posting this on Wednesdays and 533 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: talking about training camp in the month of August, and 534 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: then obviously once we get into the regular season, the 535 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: blueprints are back, the opponent breakdowns are back. But Rick, 536 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: welcome back season number forty two. 537 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: It's great to be back with you, Matt. I really 538 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: enjoy our relationship and what we do here. 539 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. 540 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: So we have that to look forward to every single 541 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: week here in the Colts Audio Network with Rick Ventury 542 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: and is nearly three decades of NFL and major college 543 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: football experience, opening up that noggin talking x's and o's 544 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 4: talking about this Colts team for Rick Ventury. 545 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 3: I'm Matt Taylor. 546 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: We're live here at Colts Camp Graham Park, brought to 547 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: you by Courson fire in Security. We'd love to see 548 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 4: you up here in the month of August. Colts dot 549 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: com slash camp for all the practice times and the dates, 550 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: and to download your free tickets as well. We'll do 551 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: it again next Wednesday with RV. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks 552 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: for listening on the Colts Audio Network. So long everybody,