1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: are taking you into the weekend. We have got a 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: ton to discuss with all of you. Most importantly that 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: the economic information and indicators that are out there. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Continue to be quite strong. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Friday a morning, just about two hours ago, the latest 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: inflation read for January came in at two point four 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: percent inflation. That is the lowest core inflation number that 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: has existed since March I believe, of twenty twenty one. 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: That is the very beginning of the Joe Biden administration, 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: before the disastrous rise to nine point one percent in 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: inflation began, which I believe peaked in around June of 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. If I remember off the top of 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: my head, some of you out there might be saying, Okay, well, 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: what does that mean In a real terms? It means 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: that the Fed's target inflation rate of two percent is 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: easily within targeted. It means that all of the histrionics 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: surrounding Trump's decision to implement tariffs have not led to 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: soaring inflation, and it means that overall the economy is 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: moving in a very very good direction. 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: And as we. 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Sit here midway through February, Buck, what jumps out to 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: me is the most recent GDP rating that we got, 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: the most recent reading that we got on the GDP 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: was four point four percent growth. Wages have now begun 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: to outpace the growth of inflation in a fairly substantial way. 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: What you're seeing as all of this kind of works 31 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: together is the secured southern border is helping to result 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: in significant declines in rent And I know many of 33 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: you may be starting to see this as your rent 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 2: bills come up, as your leases come up, and you're 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: looking around, and whereas in the past the landlords have 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: been able to just jack rates up at a really 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: rapid pace, that is no longer occurring. In fact, rents 38 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: have begun to come down. That is the basic law 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: of supply and demand. 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: Buck. 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: What happens when two million plus illegals leave the country 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: is the overall demand for rental properties in general begins 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: to decline. So if you pair two point four percent 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: inflation again the lowest since March of twenty twenty one, 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: at the core number, and you pair it with a 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: four point four percent GDP growth rate, and you add 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: in that we're at the lowest murder rates since nineteen hundred, 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: that we have the most secure border in any of 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: our lives, and that the stock market is at record highs. 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: Starting to think that things are pretty great now again. 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: I understand it might take a little while for all 52 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: of this to start to pull in a direction and 53 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: everybody feels it across the nation. 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: But the metrics, they are really really good. It's looking fantastic. 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: Some people are saying the greatest economy of all economies, 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: and I think it's only going to. 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Get better from here. Quite honestly. 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: One of the really important data points here one of 59 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: the indicators that you're not going to hear enough about 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: because it's not only good for the economy, but it 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: very much goes to the ideological differences between Democrat and 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Republican governance, and that has to do with job creation, 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: that is, actual jobs in the economy versus just creating 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: more slots for bureaucrats in the government. And that's something 65 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: that democrats. Democrats did this and there was a huge 66 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: surge of this during COVID these what I call low 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: show jobs, where you don't really do anything. You've just 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: got to be there, but you don't do anything. There's 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: no show jobs, which those are generally illegal, or you 70 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: know those are if you're in the government, those are illegal. 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: There's low show jobs, though, where you have no actual productivity, 72 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: no real metrics, and you're just a drain on the 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: actual productive economy. It's got bess In spoke about this 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: player this is cut too, where he's just saying we're 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: not just creating jobs in general. These are private sector 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: jobs while government jobs are going down. 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: Play two. 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: What was even more impressive about the numbers is the 79 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: private sector numbers were more than one hundred and seventy thousand, 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 3: and government jobs were induced by more than forty thousand. 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: More than thirty thirty thousand of that was federal jobs. 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: We're at the lowest ratio of government jobs to total 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: jobs since nineteen sixty six. And this is part of 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: President's Trump's plan to reprivatize our economy. And I think, 85 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: as I've said many times, twenty twenty five is about 86 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: setting the table. Twenty twenty six is going to be 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: a banquet for the American people. The economy is taking off. 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Clay. 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: This is so critical. This is the midterm election. Really, 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: this is run up the scoreboard. So it's clear if 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: you want a strong economy, forget about every Trump tweet 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: that you were told with so mean or whatever. You 93 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: want a strong US economy, you got to keep the 94 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: Republicans in charge. 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: Look, and I'm building on what Secretary of Treasury Scott 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: Bessen said there, and I think we mentioned this earlier 98 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: in the week, but I want to hammer it home again. 99 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: We added one hundred and thirty thousand private sector jobs. 100 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: That's after we take away the fact that we declined 101 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: government jobs substantially. In fact, Buck, the number of government 102 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: employees is down over ten percent since Donald Trump. 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: Came into office. 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: We have eliminated roughly three hundred and fifty thousand jobs 105 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: from people who are funded by taxpayers. So it's not 106 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: I think this is really important because people look at 107 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: the overall jobs and the growth for everybody out there 108 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: that's paying taxes that we have eliminated ten percent of 109 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: the people that we are required to pay for on 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: the federal government's dole. And ideally what appears to be 111 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: happening is those people are actually going into the private 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: sector and getting jobs that don't require the federal government 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: to be paying their salaries. So this is a huge 114 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: net positive for everyone out there. And again, I know 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: it takes a little while for all of the larger macro, 116 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 2: big picture economic issues to translate all the way through 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: the entire economy. One thing I would say that a 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: lot of people notice every single day is the price 119 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: of gas is down substantially, and overall again gas and 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: rent are actually declining, which is a pretty transformative change. 121 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: And one other thing we should mention is a lot 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: of times January inflation comes in hot. It comes in 123 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: higher than people expected because during the holidays, expending is 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: sometimes tough to measure. In January, it sometimes comes in hot. 125 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: We're actually set up for as we move into the spring. 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: I think inflation to be back down to two percent, 127 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: which is the Fed's target. And when that happens, then 128 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna get more interest rate cuts, which means your mortgages, 129 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: which means your car payments, which means everything out there, 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: your credit cards. In theory, everything is going to get 131 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: cheaper because the economy is starting to fire on all 132 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: cylinders again, and that will free up the housing market, 133 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: which has been essentially frozen because so many people got 134 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: three percent mortgages and are just not gonna move, even 135 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: if it would make sense to move because rates are 136 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: so much higher than what they got. Here is on 137 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: that point, Clay, because there's the numbers and then there's 138 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: what people feel. Yeah, and in politics you got to 139 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: make them both lines up. There's the good data, which 140 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: we were just talking about the jobs, but then it's 141 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: how expensive does gas feel? How's your rent? How are 142 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: the things that matter to you day today? The paycheck, 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: kitchen table. Issues that are really at the heart of 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: American politics and always will be because this is something 145 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: that people feel and they know, and no matter what 146 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: the TV tells them, their reality is their reality. Scott 147 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Besson's pointing out that we saw real wage growth last year, 148 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: but it could be great and this will really go 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: to this point. If you get really substantial wage growth 150 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: and low inflation in twenty six, people are going to 151 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: feel that this has cut three play it the. 152 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: Two ways to fix affordability. There is bringing down prices 153 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: and things like energy. Energy is coming down. Energy is 154 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: a core component of everything for consumers, so as that 155 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: comes down, we will see the inflation levels come down, 156 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: but on the other side, it's real income increases and 157 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: we've seen real we saw real way age growth in 158 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. I think it could be very strong 159 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, and I think the American people 160 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: are going to start feeling. 161 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: There we go Clay, yeah, look, and again, I think 162 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: the big challenge of twenty twenty six is going to 163 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,479 Speaker 2: be is and are the average voters going to recognize 164 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: that the trajectory of the economy is very positive or 165 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: is it still going to feel bad because of the 166 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: Biden hangover. I think that is the number one question 167 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six. And in fact, if you go 168 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: back and you look, and I like to go back 169 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: and look at modern recent history presidential it took a 170 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: while for Reagan's economic bonafides to start to hit. Nineteen 171 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: eighty four We've talked about it was an all time landslide. 172 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty two wasn't great. And so the beneficiary, ironically, 173 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: of the policies that Trump has put in place because 174 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Trump can't run again, is not going to be Donald Trump. 175 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: It's going to be jd. Vance or whomever. 176 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: The presumptive Republican candidate is going to be because I 177 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: think it's going to be impossible to argue by twenty 178 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: twenty eight that everyone can't see that the economy is 179 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: firing on all cylinders. The tough thing for Trump is 180 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't get to run on that. And we talked 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: about this earlier in the week. Everybody forgets we had 182 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: the best economy in the history of the country in 183 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty and then COVID happened. If COVID 184 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 2: doesn't exist, then Trump wins I think a very comfortable 185 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: election win over Joe Biden, and he's already out of office. 186 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: I don't know who would be in office right now, 187 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: and I think our economy would be in a much 188 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: better place. Obviously, now Trump is having to rebuild the 189 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: mess that is Biden. He's going to fix it again, 190 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: and then somebody else is going to be benefiting going forward. 191 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: Take your calls, take your talkbacks, get into all of it. 192 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: But I got to say, another good week in the 193 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: book for this Trump administration, and staying the course right 194 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: now with a lot of these policies is the smart move, 195 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: and it is amazing. We'll start to go back twelve 196 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: months in time to pull what was being said a 197 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: year ago by the so called financial intelligentsia reporters and 198 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: you know, the CNBC commentariat. The economists quote economists like 199 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: which economists the ones that hate Trump? Those are the 200 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 2: only ones that find their way into most major newspapers 201 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: and all the rest. They said that this was going 202 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: to crash out the economy, and the economy is kicking ass. 203 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: That's the truth. Now. 204 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: I understand that doesn't mean that it's perfect, that doesn't 205 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: mean that there aren't still high prices or you know, 206 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: this is we have to level set expectations here. 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We mentioned that James Vanderbeek, 235 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: forty eight years old, star of Dawson's Creek and Varsity Blues, 236 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: died and somebody shared with me it was you, and 237 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: then I shared it, and so many people were reacting 238 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: to it. Varsity Blues was a all time team and 239 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: football movie, and I bet a lot of you saw 240 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: it and had a large number of at that time 241 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: people in their late teens or early twenties that were 242 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: stars in that era. 243 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: It's for people who grew up in the nineties. Was 244 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: a big movie. 245 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: I don't think our parents saw it, but yeah, but 246 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: that three of the icons of that movie are all 247 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: now dead. Paul What Paul Walker, that's the guy from 248 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: Fast and the Furious, but he was in this movie, 249 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: he and the Fast the Furious movies, who died in 250 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: a high speed car accident. 251 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: And then the Billy Bob character. All three of them 252 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: have passed. 253 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: And James Vanderbeek had six young kids, forty eight years old, 254 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: and this was his final message. And this has gone 255 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: viral and I don't know how many people have heard this, 256 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: but James Vanderbeek, as you mentioned, Buck, was on Team Sanity. 257 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: It would not stun me if he sometimes listened to 258 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: this show. And again, he had six kids. And I 259 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: think it was colon cancer, which has become very deadly. 260 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: It seems like for a lot of younger men that 261 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: you wouldn't anticipate. Chadwick Boseman, who played the Black Panther 262 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: among other roles, also I believe, died of colon cancer. 263 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: But here was James Vanderbeek's final message. I thought maybe 264 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: it would resonate with some of you like it resonated 265 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: with me when I heard this yesterday, Cut twenty one. 266 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: I was younger. I used to find myself as an actor, right, 267 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: which was never really all that fulfilling. And then it 268 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: became a husband and that was much better. And then 269 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: it became a father, and that was the ultimate. I 270 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: could define myself then as a loving, capable, strong, supportive husband, father, provider, 271 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: steward of the land that were so lucky to live on. 272 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: And for a long time that felt like a really 273 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: good definition to the question who am I? 274 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: What am I? 275 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: And then this year I had to look my own 276 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: mortality in the eye. I had to come nose to 277 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: nose with death, and all of those definitions that I 278 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: cared so deeply about were stripped for me. I was 279 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: away for treatment, so I could no longer be a 280 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: husband that was helpful to my wife. I could no 281 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: longer be a father who could pick up his kids 282 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: and put them to bed and be there for them. 283 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: I could not be a provider because I wasn't working. 284 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: I couldn't even be a steward of a land because 285 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: at times I was too weak to proven all the 286 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: trees during the window that you're supposed to pring them. 287 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: And so I was faced with the question, if I 288 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: am just a too skinny, weak guy alone in an 289 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: apartment with cancer, what am I? And I meditated and 290 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 4: the answer came through, I am worthy of God's love 291 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: simply because I exist. And if I'm worthy of God's love, 292 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: shouldn't I also be worthy of my own? And the 293 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: same is true for you. 294 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: I just thought that was really very well said for 295 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: a forty eight year old, And again, he has left 296 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: behind six very young children there. They're the lovely family, 297 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: but just a I think for a lot of people 298 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: out there, because he's relatively young. You don't expect people 299 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: in their forties to pass with young families that they're 300 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: taking care of. And I think a lot of people 301 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: have been sharing that because it did feel like a 302 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: very profound, owned revelation from him, and I think a 303 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: lot of people find purpose, particularly men. I think this 304 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: is one of the biggest challenges that exists in our 305 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: society today, Buck, is when you tell men that they 306 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: shouldn't be providers and that they shouldn't be fathers, and 307 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: they don't have people that rely on them, most men. 308 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Are not at their best. I think that's fair to say. 309 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: When men act entirely in their own self interest and 310 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: they do not have people to provide for, protect and 311 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: and and basically be the strong backbone of a household, 312 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: I think most men are at their worst. And I 313 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: thought that evolution in James Vanderbeek's perspective on a lot 314 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: of people say, oh, I'd love to be in a movie. 315 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: I've done a couple of things in films. Honestly, seems 316 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: really boring to me, Buck, You do the same scene 317 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: over and over again, like this, going back for your 318 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: your IMDb Clay Well, I mean, I just I think 319 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people think, oh, being an actor would 320 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: be cool. And if you've ever been in one of 321 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: those trailers, and you've ever done a scene in a movie, 322 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: or you've ever filmed anything. I like live television. I 323 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: like live radio because I imagine I probably would like 324 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: live theater because there is no safety net. But the 325 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: idea of doing the same scene forty different times from 326 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: every angle. It's miserable, Like I did not enjoy it 327 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: at all. And I think a lot of people, you know, 328 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: he had a great deal of success there, but I 329 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: think what he's recognizing is something much more profound than 330 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: personal success. Yes, I just Clay drawing upon his time 331 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: as a thespian straight in on this one is very Clay, 332 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that his speech here or his message here, 333 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: which I even shared with my own with my family. 334 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: I just thought it was really worth hearing, worth watching 335 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: and listening to. I'm very glad you played it on 336 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 2: the air. Reminds me of a memoir that was written 337 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: by Paul Kalaneathy, which you can get. 338 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: It's short. 339 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: It's called When Breath Becomes Air, and it's about this 340 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: absolute top neurosurgeon who finds out right when he's about 341 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: to sort of hit his peak of saving lives and 342 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: you know, operating on too, you know, tumors that are 343 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: the hardest to operate on, all this kind of stuff, 344 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: that he has terminal cancer. And then the book is 345 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: really a meditation on being being a dad, being a 346 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: you know, a man. Everything you know bother and it's 347 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: just really beautifully written. And I think that if you're 348 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: ever looking for something that's I mean, you will read 349 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: it in a weekend. 350 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: For sure. 351 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Get Manufacturing Delusion first, which comes out on Tuesday. But 352 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: I can't be selling other people's books right now. But no, 353 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: it's a really if you haven't read When Breath Becomes Air, 354 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: it's a really beautiful memoir and it goes into a 355 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: lot of these things about it. He was he was 356 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: a man of faith, Paul Kalaneathie. So I think a 357 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: lot of you would. You know, he loved being a dad, 358 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: loved being a husband. But he's very honest. He's also 359 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: wildly brilliant. That comes across from you know, he was 360 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: just he was like the Clay he was like the 361 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: Stanford neurosurgeon guy, you know that was the up and 362 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: coming in California at his at the hospital and everything else. 363 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: You know, he's like he's the guy that you would 364 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: make the doctor like soap opera or you know Gray's 365 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: anatomy around as like the super doctor. He was that guy, 366 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: and so I think it's it's really powerful to sort 367 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: of go through his thoughts. He knew he had a 368 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: year to live and he wrote this book and that's 369 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: that's what. 370 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: He did for the year. 371 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: So I would I would recommend that to you. You 372 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: can get it bundled with Manufacturing Delusion, which is out 373 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. So okay, there we have that. But I'm 374 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: glad you played James Vanderbig And I'm gonna tell you 375 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: something people used to say all the time when I 376 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: was in high school that I looked like pacey Ah. 377 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: Constantly I was told that I look like Joshua Jackson, 378 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: and right now I might look more like signor Joshua Jackson. 379 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: My hair cut is little Miami, but Joshua Jackson and 380 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: I Pacey from Dawson's People see me at party, Yo, 381 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: it's Pacy. So Dawson's Creek had had a really profound 382 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: effect on my youth. It was a great show entertaining 383 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: show back in the day. All right, we will take 384 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: your calls. It is the Friday edition of the program 385 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: eight hundred and two two eight a two. Our friend, 386 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson will join us again. A lot of 387 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: different news stories out there that we will continue to track, 388 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: including and it doesn't seem like there has been very 389 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: much of an update at all as as it pertains 390 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: to this, but we are continuing to monitor and that 391 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: is the Nancy Guthrie case, so. 392 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: We will keep you updated on that. 393 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: But I want to let you know self protection inside 394 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: of your home can make a tremendous difference, especially if 395 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: you've got kids around and you want to have non 396 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: lethal way to protect yourself. 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Saber Radio 406 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: dot Com s A b r E Radio dot Com eight. 407 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: Four four eight two four s a f E. 408 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: That's Saber Radio dot Com eight four four eight two 409 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: four s A f E. We just have some upsp 410 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: from prep it in Trump talking about a few issues 411 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: that we wanted to bring to you your attention. Now, 412 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: the audio on this is not going to be perfection 413 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: because it is near Marine one, but we will make 414 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: sure that you want to play it for you. Here 415 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: the President says the best of our ability, and then 416 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: we'll talk about some of these issues. Because he does discuss, 417 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: of course, the latest economic numbers. I think the Trumpsters 418 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: feeling pretty good about as he should. He feels good 419 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: and he knew that he would. It is, in fact 420 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: a strong economy. Here is Trump on. This is just 421 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: moments ago getting into Marine one, the helicopter. This is 422 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: twenty four play it. 423 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 5: Good financial numbers, very low inflation. We've broadcasts way down 424 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: and the numbers were surprising except me, they weren't surprising. 425 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: So the inflation numbers is just. 426 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: Announced, as you know, our way down and we have 427 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 5: it back in track. We had the worst inflation in 428 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 5: the history of our country, and now we have very 429 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: modest inflation, which is what you want to have. 430 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: Play. 431 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: It's all true. This is the reality. And you notice 432 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: if it wasn't true. This is something you always have 433 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: to remember about Trump. If what he was saying, if 434 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: there was a ready rejoinder to it. If there was 435 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: some other side of the coin that they could focus 436 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: in on right away, we'd hear it. But no, these 437 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: numbers are what they are, and they're all trending in 438 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: the positive direction. Yeah, here's what. Here's what I tweeted 439 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: out a little bit ago in the wake of the 440 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: inflation that Trump just hit. Sometimes I think it is 441 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: hard because there's such a daily drum beat of insanity 442 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: that's happening in the country. It's sometimes hard to think 443 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: big picture and you get kind of bogged down in 444 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: the details. 445 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: But just think about this. We're a little bit over 446 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: a year. 447 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: Into Trump two point zero okay, h four point four 448 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: percent GDP at the end of the year. That's the 449 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: latest GDP numbers we have. That's extraordinary four point four percent. 450 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: And there's rumors bucks as we have discussed on this program, 451 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: that GDP might be five percent or better in twenty 452 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: twenty six, which is unheard of. People say, you know, 453 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: typically you want two or three percent. If you got 454 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: five percent, to get four point four percent is extraordinary. 455 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Two point four percent inflation. That's the number that just 456 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: came out this morning. Record high stock market, lowest murder 457 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: rate since nineteen hundred, most secure border in history, and 458 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: a ten percent decline in government employees. 459 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: That's honestly pretty extraordinary for year one. 460 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Now I understand, and trust me, I'm sure the Trump 461 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: administration understands. 462 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: There's more work to be done. 463 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 2: But if I had told you that we were going 464 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: to end twenty twenty five at four point four percent GDP, 465 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: two point four percent inflation, record high stock market, lowest 466 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: murder rate since nineteen hundred, most secure border in history, 467 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: and a ten percent decline in government employees, I don't 468 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: think that most of you would have believed that was possible. 469 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: I don't, And by the way, I was asking the 470 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: question because I do think there is a little bit 471 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: of a historical echo. Nineteen ninety two versus twenty twenty six, 472 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: Democrats gained twenty six seats in Reagan nineteen eighty two, 473 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: the midterm of Reagan and the Senate basically didn't change 474 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: at all. And then in nineteen eighty four we had 475 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: the landslide Reagan election victory over Mondale. What did I 476 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: jot down? But Democrats won the national popular vote in 477 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two by eleven So if you how we're 478 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: doing eighty six I think eighty six would be a 479 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: better analogy to where we are now because we're in 480 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: the second term of Trump. 481 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: We just had a huge Trump win. 482 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: The challenge I think, Buck is you got double Reagan terms, 483 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: so I almost think we got two to one term trumpers, right. 484 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: So to me, the analogy Trump won bigger in twenty 485 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: four than he did in sixteen. So to me, yeah, 486 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: your eighty six and analogy is not a bad one. 487 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: I'm sure that Ronald Reagan lost seats in the House 488 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: and the Senate because I believe, and this is off 489 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: the top of my head, I think in the modern era, 490 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: only in nineteen ninety eight and two thousand and two 491 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: did the party in power gain seats in mid term elections. 492 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: Usually the party in power loses seats and is on 493 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: its back foot again. I think that's one of the 494 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: challenges here. Twenty eighteen was a rough one for Trump's 495 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: first term. Unfortunately in the House, as we recall, and 496 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: also unfortunately we've lost a number three should have won 497 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: Senate seats in Georgia alone. We gave up three Senate 498 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: seats in one state that when you go back and 499 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: look at what happened there, it was total own goals 500 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: by the Republicans in every sense, in every one of those. 501 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: But let's get back to Trump here. What he's saying 502 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: because some some questions about national security here about potential 503 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: strikes on Colombia, Venezuela and even Mexico against the cartels. 504 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: This is twenty five. Let's hear what he said, you cot, 505 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: you call Colombia minute, what about it? 506 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 5: Right? You don't worry about it. 507 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. It's a very Trump answer. He 508 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: goes more here, though, Clay, this is twenty six. He 509 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: says he's gonna have to go to Venezuela himself. That 510 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: will be really interesting play twenty six. 511 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 5: Thirty. I'm gonna make a visit to Venezuela. Wait, wait, 512 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 5: I m are you presented? Were We just had a 513 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 5: good meeting with you. 514 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: Then we had a good meeting with Colombia Venezuela. Still 515 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: very much it remains to be seen how successful the 516 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: aftermath of the Majuro arrest. The it's really a military operation, 517 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: but they have arrested him. He's in federal court now, 518 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: sitting in federal prison. So we'll see where that ends 519 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: up going, Clay. But that's something that I think the 520 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: President is going to have to focus in on and 521 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: drive some of that policy himself. Not only that, Buck, 522 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: You're you're down in South Florida. I'm up on the Panhandle. 523 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: So I'll be in the Panhandle for the weekend, up 524 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: in North Florida, which I love it here. But Cuba, 525 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: we have not talked a great deal about Cuba as 526 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: a major reverberation of the operation that took place in Venezuela. 527 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you read this, Buck, but there 528 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: is so little fuel now in Cuba because Venezuela used 529 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: to be providing a lot of the oil and gas 530 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: to allow Cuba to exist. Trump has put pressure on 531 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: Mexico and Fine Bomb shinebamb. Fine Bam is a friend 532 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: of mine. Shinebaum who's the president of Mexicano. Not to 533 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: be confused with Fine Bomb, very very different. Shinebaumb and 534 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: Fine Bomb two different people. One talks about Southeastern Conference football, 535 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: is a friend of mine. The other is the president 536 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: of Mexico, Claudia Shinbaum. He has basically put pressure on 537 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: Mexico not to continue to give oil and gas to 538 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: Cuba either, such that the places that fly into Cuba 539 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: and Evidently there's a lot of Russian tourism and a 540 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: lot of Spanish tourism. People still go to Cuba from Europe. 541 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: They don't have enough gas to be able to fly 542 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: in and refuel at Cuban airports, so they're basically having 543 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: to fly and refuel in other countries and start to 544 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: pull their tourists out. 545 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: In other words, what do you bring what do I 546 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: bring this up? 547 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: Cuba is within weeks of a complete economic collapse, and 548 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that a lot of people have focused 549 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: on this, but one of the primary impacts of what 550 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: happened in Venezuela has actually been what's taking place in Cuba. 551 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: And it is possible, I say possible, that after what 552 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: is it, seventy nine years basically sixty nine years, whatever 553 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: the math is, since Fidel Castro came into power, it's 554 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: possible that Cuba could be really truly collapsing and freedom 555 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: could be returning to Cuba. 556 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: On some level. I think it's actually been under the radar. 557 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people focused on Venezuela, and there's the 558 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: oil story there and everything else, but maybe the more 559 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: immediate outcome might well be the collapse of the Cuban 560 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: government and some forms of market based economy returning to 561 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: Cuba after generations where that was not allowed and in 562 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: South Florida. I bet this is a major topic of conversation. 563 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: But Cuba could be an salute jewel of the global 564 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: economy if they would just embrace capitalism. 565 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful country. 566 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: It is surrounded by thriving Caribbean countries that particularly have 567 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: taken advantage of sort of economic resource allocations, meaning the 568 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: Cayman Islands and the British Virgin Islands and some of 569 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: these countries that have allowed businesses to be based there 570 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: with low tax rates. I think Cuba would explode, and 571 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: there is an argument that it could be utterly transformative 572 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: to South Florida in many ways for the economic conditions there, 573 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: because Cuba is in any way embracing capitalism would take off. 574 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: Have you ever been on a cruise You ever been 575 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: on a cruise ship? I have not. I am not 576 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: a cruise guy. 577 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't surprise me, but I did a The last cruise 578 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: I went on was the Disney Cruise with my kids. 579 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: They loved it. 580 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: Five people in one tiny little cruise cabin not ideal. 581 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: We were all five in the same place. We went 582 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: right by Cuba so close Buck that you could see 583 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: all of the spires and all of the buildings of 584 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: Havana as we were passing. If you go look at 585 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: the cruise industry in general, Royal Caribbean, Carnival, Cruise Line, 586 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: whatever you want to point to, the entire cruise industry, 587 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: by and large, at least based in the South in Florida, 588 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: they just circle Cuba. 589 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: It's all they do. 590 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: They just go to all of the beautiful islands around Cuba. 591 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't think people understand how transformative a free Cuba 592 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: would be. 593 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people have forgotten. You know, Cuba was 594 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. 595 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Havana was where people would hop on fast boats that 596 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: had on Part two. 597 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: That was the whole thing. 598 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: Hey, I think that we are potentially seeing with Cuba Venezuela. 599 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Iran again, the echo of 600 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: the Reagan eraro with Trump. I don't think most people 601 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: are realizing how quick the capitulation and collapse of Cuba 602 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 2: could really be. We're on the precipice of that happening 603 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: right now. There will be something really full circle about 604 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: that moment when the incredible gleaming tower of Trump International 605 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: Caracas goes up and Trump International Havana goes up, you know, yeah, 606 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: and not impossible. I would even say I give it 607 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty that at some point it happens in 608 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 2: both of those places. 609 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy at all. 610 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, because I know Venezuelan's are 611 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: already having these conversations. How many people go back, America 612 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: is an awesome place, right the idea has been you know, 613 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: the Cubans toast and they say next year in Havana, 614 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: all these things. 615 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: How many people? I know there'd be a lot across 616 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: the Yeah. 617 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: Very few people don't like to necessarily admit that until 618 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 2: they have to make that decision. But America's America pretty 619 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: awesome here, you know. Yeah, South Florida is really nice, like, yeah, 620 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: it's yeah. Venezuela could get better, but Caracas is a 621 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: long way from being South Beach, my friends, and that's 622 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: not going to change any times. 623 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: Man. 624 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: Havanah. 625 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: I mean, they basically can't keep the power on in 626 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: Havana right now at all. But if you don't have 627 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: if you're an illegal and you're here, guess what be 628 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: a good time to go back. 629 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: I will say this, I'd like to invest. 630 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: I'd like to put a lot if we could turn 631 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: Cuba into an actual capitalistic country. The amount of beautiful 632 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: countryside beaches. It's one of the most beautiful countries I 633 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: think in the world. I mean, Cuba would be if 634 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: you really kind of put resources behind it. There's a 635 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: lot of Cuban money. I'm curious how much of that 636 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: money would eventually go back. You know, the remittances is 637 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: basically the only reason Cuba has an economy at all 638 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: right now is people giving money back to their family 639 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: members who still live in Cuba. 640 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just want you to put a pin 641 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: in that story. 642 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: I know some of you who are Cuba and South 643 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: hear Indians are paying more attention to it. 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The occult and 685 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth. For those of us who grew up 686 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: in a certain region, I don't think it was well known. 687 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: We were told, don't screw around with the bell Witch. 688 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the bell Witch legend? 689 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: B E L L. 690 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: They kind of based you remember the movie, the handheld 691 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: movie back in the day, I mean Blair Real talk 692 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 2: here for a second, real talk here, Clay, we're friends. 693 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: Did you have a banjo growing up? Like I feel 694 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: like I did. 695 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 2: They made the They based the Blair Witch project to 696 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: a certain extent, on some of the legacy of the Belwich. 697 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 2: But back in the day when the Belwich was the 698 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: one that we focused on, the most and actually the Belwich. 699 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: The story of the Belwich, I don't know any tell. 700 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 2: Me Bellwich is very famous. In fact, Andrew Jackson back 701 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: in the day went to the home where the Bellwitch 702 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: was supposedly haunting, and there's a Belwich cave which you 703 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: can still tour. I think it's kind of had a 704 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: new life on YouTube because there's a lot of these kids, 705 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: you know this, that go to the most haunted places 706 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: and just take their own personal YouTube paraphernalia film it. 707 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: It's super popular, you know. I know they've done television 708 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: shows about this, but it's there's a certain genre of 709 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: it on YouTube that my teenage boys have ended up 710 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: following that has gotten a lot of attention. And so 711 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: there's been part of the term a resurrection of some 712 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 2: of these old, you know, sort of ghost stories back 713 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: in the day that have found a new life on 714 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: social media the Internet. 715 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: I think well written. 716 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: So I'm not a horror genre guy in general, but 717 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: I and I saw a lot of it too. First 718 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: of all, the older I get, actually, the less I'm 719 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 2: okay with like really extreme violence in movies and things. 720 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: I just I don't want that negativity, like entering my 721 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 2: consciousness in my sphere, So I I anything that I 722 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: don't like. The slasher genre is what I'm saying, the 723 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: more a cult. 724 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: It's eerie. 725 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: The writing that stuff I think can be can be 726 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: very well done, and I think as far more effective 727 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: as actual horror than the like you know. 728 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: Guy with like the Fright of the classics. 729 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: They don't really make those movies anymore, but the Slash 730 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: thirteen slasher films Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Michael Myers. Although 731 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: that was a huge genre for a while because dollars in, 732 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 2: dollars out, it may still be the case. I know 733 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: it was the case that horror movies were the most 734 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 2: profitable genre of film to be involve all things. 735 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: Think about it. What are your costs like fake blood? 736 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: You know, a hockey mask? People? 737 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bloom I think it's Jason Bloomhouse has made 738 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: a It might be Blumhouse. I've read all about it. 739 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 2: You're still right the horror universe is the most profitable. 740 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 2: Let me give you a couple of things here. The 741 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: Conjuring movies are incredible. Have you watched the Conjuring movies? 742 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: And I've not seen those? Have not seen them? 743 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: I think you would like them because they're basically it's 744 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: about a husband and a wife. They are so well done, 745 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 2: and it's really about their marriage as much, but they 746 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: are they're basically exorcists. They're investigating on behalf of religion, 747 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 2: the idea of evil in the world. And I'm sure 748 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: they're hollywooded up, but they're based in reality on this 749 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: husband and wife couple that this is what they did. 750 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: They went and they investigated evil of a of a 751 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: vile nature from a religious perspective. And the movies are 752 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 2: supremely that actually sounds like it's pretty good, Like sounds 753 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: like they are really well done. I don't know what 754 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: percentage of this audience would have watched them. They're scary. 755 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: Was there ever a movie that you watched when you 756 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 2: were younger as a kid that was so scary that 757 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 2: you had to turn it off? Or like you're like, 758 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: I can't, I can't sit, I can't do this. Oh 759 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 2: it's Friday the thirteenth. I mean sorry, no, sorry, Nightmare 760 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: on Elm Street when I was a little kid, because 761 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: Freddy came to you while you were sleeping. 762 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: So if you were a kid. 763 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: And you got in bed and you had a wild 764 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: imagination like I did, and you would be trying to 765 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: go to sleep and you would think. I mean, that 766 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: was what made I think the Nightmarre on elm Street 767 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: movie so particularly well done. Was they were going to 768 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: get you when you went to sleep, so that you 769 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: weren't even safe once you fell asleep. Was that was 770 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: the danger? Let me give you the conjuring are really good. 771 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: Since it's Friday the thirteenth. Scream movies, I still really 772 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: like the scream movies. I think those are more crime 773 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 2: thriller than they are horror. There's nothing supernat It's really 774 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: just a serial killer. Yeah, I mean there's it's typically stabbing, 775 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 2: so I mean it's kind of nasty in the sense 776 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: that you're getting stabbed with a knife. 777 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: Yes I'm stabbing. 778 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: Is say, they're they're not supremely gory to your point. 779 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 2: I so they're they're coming out with a new scream, 780 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 2: Scream seven. This is the seventh version of it. So 781 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 2: I would say, to a large extent, you're right, like 782 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: the Night would you make a. 783 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: Cameo, mister Thespian and Scream seven is I see people 784 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: are coming after me. 785 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 2: For people think that acting is awesome, that's what I thought. 786 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: I was like, man, there's nothing cooler than being in 787 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: a movie. It's really boring. You sit in a can, 788 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 2: you sit in like your little uh you know, on set, 789 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: you go out, you do the same thing forty different 790 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 2: times from eighty different angles. It's and I was like, 791 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: this is not it's not as fast paced as I thought. 792 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 2: My mom is gonna is gonna chuckle right now. But 793 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 2: uh before she had to just do the mom thing 794 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 2: full time. When she was early on married to my dad. 795 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 2: She she was on a soap opera, Doctors, which I 796 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 2: told you about. 797 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: For a season. 798 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: She was a she was a cast regular for a season. 799 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 2: She was the starring role in a Hallmark movie Summer 800 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 2: of My German Soldier. She was in a I mean 801 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 2: these were real like probably you know kind of Uh So. 802 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 1: Was she the one who dated the German soldier? Yeah? Yeah, 803 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: she was the love interest for the German soldier. Yeah. 804 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: And and so she was in a number of these things. 805 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: So she did. 806 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: She was a working actress, like a person that was 807 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 2: making a living acting. She says, his work it's a 808 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: brutal it's a brutal profession because it's so fickle and 809 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: it was work. It's not all the stuff that people 810 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 2: think about, the like red carpet and everything else. That's 811 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: the very end process. That's that's signing the books at 812 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble. My very limited yeah, that's yeah, my 813 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 2: very limited time as involved in doing acting. And again 814 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: I've only done it in the context of being an adult. 815 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 2: Talking about you doing acting, You played yourself, Come on, but. 816 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: I've played myself. 817 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: But I have to say I did an incredible job 818 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: playing the role Travis. 819 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: Travis. 820 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: This is that's really very funny. I had never thought 821 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: that I've only played myself in film and movie. I 822 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: don't think I've ever played anybody else with this mustache, 823 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: There's no telling who I could play. But my point 824 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 2: on it is having done a limited amount of it, 825 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: the idea that we give credence to actors. I spent 826 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: one day in a trailer, you know, like everybody goes 827 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: and sits in their trailers or whatever. The first time 828 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: I ever did it, and I was like, why have 829 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 2: I ever cared what anybody who did this for their. 830 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: For a living. 831 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 2: I'm not saying, look, there's great, you know, art that 832 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 2: can be produced all those things, but the idea that 833 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: I would desperately care what somebody who sits around in 834 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: a trailer and says the same line from forty different 835 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: angles thinks about politics. I remember having that revelation where 836 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was way more challenging and impressive of 837 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 2: a thing to do until I get it, Clay, this 838 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 2: is where I get to remind everybody, this is where 839 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 2: the history nerd comes out. Actors throughout history were like 840 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: a step above clowns and prostitutes. Yeah, and I'm not 841 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: even sure a step above the clowns. Like actors for 842 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 2: thousands of years, going back to ancient Greece were kind 843 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: of a disreputable bunch. And it was really only with 844 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 2: the rise of cinema in the twentieth century, and then 845 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 2: I would say, in our I think actors and music 846 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 2: acts in our lifetime were elevated to their absolute pinnacle 847 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: of prestigean power. And I think in the last decade 848 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 2: we have seen a dramatic decline because there's also so 849 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: many other ways and so many other people who get 850 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 2: famous now because of the online world we live in, 851 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: so it has dispersed a lot. But I wanted to 852 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: go back to horror for a second, so you said 853 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: Friday thirteenth movies were scary? What is Nightmare on Elton 854 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: Street scary? That was the one that I couldn't sleep 855 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: after watching Friday thirteenth was fine, And Freddy Krueger was 856 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 2: the one that I was like, I'm terrified of I's 857 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 2: whenever one of these movies would come on, even if 858 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: it just flashed on for a second. If I was 859 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: my dad was around, he was always like, oh, I 860 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: would just take my double out book and I finished 861 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: this guy. 862 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: He was always like. 863 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 2: He was always like, Chase is not that scary? I 864 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 2: take my forty five. The guy would be toast. I'm like, yeah, 865 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 2: but that's like not really the point. But anyway, tell 866 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: me the scary for you, the scariest movie that you 867 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: have ever seen? Is that really hits the peak of 868 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: the sort of fear center in your brain when you're 869 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 2: watching that movie. For me, there is one my mom 870 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 2: read to be in the movie as the starring role. 871 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 2: By the way, oh wow, And I yeah, what was 872 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: the movie for you? 873 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: The Exorcist? 874 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: No question number one still by far the Exorcist. So 875 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: I watched Paranormal Activity and I was afraid to go 876 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 2: to sleep after watching it. This has probably been like 877 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 2: fifty years ago. I was a grown up. I mean 878 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 2: back in the day when I was a kid. It 879 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: was Freddy Krueger. But I watched I think it was 880 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: Paranormal Activity. And my wife and kids, and again this 881 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 2: was fifteen years ago, were out of the house and 882 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 2: I was sleeping in the house by myself. So I 883 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 2: went to go watch the movie by myself. My kids 884 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: were out of town, my wife was out of town. 885 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: And then I came back home and I turned on 886 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 2: every light in the house and I barricaded the bedroom 887 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: door before I went to sleep that night. And oh yeah, 888 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 2: I was probably Oh yeah, dude, I would have probably seriously. 889 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: I was probably probably thirty probably it was about fifteen 890 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 2: years ago. I know, Irearms La Lara's Lara's on the 891 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 2: ball with the fire armed train. I turned on every 892 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 2: light in the house, and uh, and I put something 893 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: in front of the bedroom door that that was the 894 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 2: already I watched the Paranormal Activity movie. 895 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: It was really really scary. 896 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 2: Got the most successful financial again not most, there's not 897 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 2: the most money that's like Avatar in these big movies, 898 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: but dollars in dollars out as a percentage of shopping 899 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 2: nothing to make and it was insanely profitable as a hit. 900 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: I always my story about the Blair Witch Project is 901 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 2: I was a junior counselor, so I think I was 902 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 2: like sixteen at a camp in Vermont, and when it 903 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: would rain, it was all outdoor stuff. We get these 904 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 2: little when it would rain, what do we do. We 905 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 2: go into Burlington, we go into town and we'd go 906 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: to a movie. And the older counselor who was like 907 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty, who was like the main counselor. He 908 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: was a crazy guy from New Zealand who was definitely 909 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: like a little nuts and he was like, oh, let's. 910 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: Go, let's go take a case of play a witch project. 911 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, they're like fourteen, dude, Like you 912 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 2: really were going to take all these fafteen year old 913 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 2: kids player who. 914 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: Still in a camp man. 915 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 2: He almost, I will tell you, he almost got fired 916 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: and like sent home over it, because I actually I 917 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 2: will not just say this now. I was like, I 918 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 2: think I'm not gonna say his name, but like I 919 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 2: was like, I thing, dude, this is not a good idea, 920 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, he basically pulled rank on me. 921 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 1: He's like, it's fun. These kids are posed, will be good. 922 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: Let's go. And I was like, I don't know, Clay. 923 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 2: We had to go back to a dark, rainy campsite 924 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 2: that night, and the kids, the thirteen and fourteen year 925 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: old kids were. 926 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: Shaking like leaves after watching. Oh, I don't doubt that 927 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: at all. 928 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: That seems like by the way Brian and Florida is 929 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 2: with us, he's a former actor. I mean, if let 930 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 2: me put it this way, if you're a professional baseball 931 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 2: player or a basketball player, football player, it's awesome, right, 932 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 2: A profect. That job is really cool. He gets to 933 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: play games, golfer, whatever. 934 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: It is. 935 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: Like, I can see why people would aspire to it. 936 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 2: I've gotten to cover it. I've thought to myself, this 937 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 2: would be something really fun to do. I'm not kidding. Acting, 938 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't think would be a very funny, very fun job. 939 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 1: Most actors are weirdos. But Brian, go ahead, Yes, First. 940 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 5: All you guys got to me cracking up there, and 941 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 5: you brought up Jason Bum. I actually did productions with 942 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 5: Jason Blum. But Clay, I will say I chased both 943 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 5: of those dreams. I was a college athlete. I did 944 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 5: try to pursue playing Major League baseball. I fell short. 945 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 5: I was a little older. I came out and out 946 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 5: of high school to the military. But I was doing 947 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 5: like modeling down in Miami where Buck is before as 948 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 5: a teenager. Then got into business. And then when I 949 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 5: came home from the military, I was like, oh, let 950 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 5: me go. I you know, went to junior college in 951 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 5: LACC started playing ball, and then I was doing my 952 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 5: Hollywood stuff and and you're so right, like I was 953 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 5: just caught up in it, trying to chase the dream 954 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 5: really for my family. And then you learn like these 955 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 5: people are a bunch of communists, idiots and demonic and 956 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 5: they it was just, yeah, it's not fun. It's not 957 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 5: the like how they put on that perspective of oh 958 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 5: it's such a it's it's holly lit. No, it's man's brutal. 959 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 5: It's everything you guys were saying was wanted on the 960 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 5: money and low key. When I you know, oh, well, 961 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 5: let me tell you. I played on a baseball league 962 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 5: with James Vanderbeek. He was very kind, He's a very 963 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 5: humble man. He he actually never acted like he was 964 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 5: better than anybody. He was a short step on our team. 965 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 5: I was first base, but and so a lot like 966 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: you kind of talk to these guys a little, and 967 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 5: you like me. I was kind of open about being served. 968 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 5: I didn't care. Like my career ended pretty quick once 969 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 5: President Trump was coming down the escalators. I was a 970 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 5: avid voice and Hollywood's like, well, we can't have this 971 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 5: crazy maga guy in here. And then I ran when 972 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 5: I find out really the undercover is when I ran 973 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 5: for United States Congress during the chinavirus in twenty twenty, 974 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 5: and I was never wearing a mask. In California. I 975 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 5: would have a lot of these actors like send me 976 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 5: a message, bro, Like that's awesome. Man, Like I can't 977 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 5: really come out publicly and support you because my career 978 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 5: will be over, but like, go for it. But you 979 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 5: guys so right. You guys are cracking me up because 980 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 5: it is like who I wanted to be a baseball player. 981 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 5: That was my Like, like like you said, Clay, You're 982 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 5: you're out there playing ball. You're playing the game, doing 983 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 5: something you love to do. Acting. Yeah, it's fun being 984 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 5: different characters and different things like that. But like you said, 985 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 5: you're sitting sometimes on the set for hours, bro, Like yeah, 986 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 5: you're seeing you're seeing they like, they're oh, let's cut, 987 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 5: and then we gotta do it again, and then you 988 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 5: didn't even get to really get in there, and then 989 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 5: you gotta wait again for that scene. And sometimes the 990 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 5: actor could not even say this stupid line or two right. 991 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 5: Then they got to cut that, and then you're waiting 992 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 5: for them to redo the lighting, or even if you're outside, 993 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 5: then you gotta wait for the lighting even outside to 994 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 5: get it. 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