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Speaker 1: Blue Black Cap Podcast. Man, we got a special guest

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Speaker 1: in here. Pacoimas in the building. Maka's in the building.

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Speaker 2: What's good, broing? Really, thank you for having me, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, first of all, Man, you are the second

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Speaker 1: artist we've ever had from Pacorma on the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, shout out picks.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen that the eight is in the building. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess if you consider. I mean, Whack

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Speaker 1: one hundred is not a rapper, but he's been on

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Speaker 1: the show before. But welcome to the show. Man. You've

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Speaker 1: been you've been moving to shake and run around the country.

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Speaker 1: How long you been doing this music ship?

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Speaker 2: Uh for a minute. I think I started like what

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, but like more and so

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Speaker 2: it's just like as a hobby, right, I didn't really

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Speaker 2: take it serious until like this past what six months.

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Speaker 1: So like you barely just started taking it serious.

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Speaker 2: It's because like it, yes and no, like it'd be

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Speaker 2: like my my my roller coaster of you know, like life,

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Speaker 2: right man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, motherfuckers gotta

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Speaker 1: pay bills, pay bills.

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Speaker 2: I got a daughter, right, you know what? I mean,

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Speaker 2: so it's like I was putting a lot of priorities.

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Speaker 2: I would say, you know, but above the dream, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it came down to it

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Speaker 2: like I was sitting down with a couple of homies,

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Speaker 2: and oddly enough, Bravo, the bag chaser, was like, you

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Speaker 2: just gotta put two feet in it. Yeah, great guy,

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Speaker 2: And so I did, and now we're here. Yeah on

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Speaker 2: the Bootlegs show.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Bravo. Yeah, you know. I try to

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Speaker 1: give Bravo advice.

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Speaker 2: He never listens, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, even though he's like he's Jack and he's like healthier.

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Speaker 1: I just was like, you gotta stop sucking on these

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Speaker 1: fucking balloons. Dog in the studio. Every time Bravo comes

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Speaker 1: to the fucking studio, there's a giant tank and it's

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Speaker 1: like twelve bitches all got. It's like a fucking birthday party.

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Speaker 2: Not the sessions that we be having.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: But was my brother.

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Speaker 1: Man, great guy, Man, great guy. He's like just his

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Speaker 1: growth too.

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Speaker 2: It's been dope to see all independent too, Like gosh,

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Speaker 2: it's he's not what crazy, He's a blueprint that a

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Speaker 2: lot of artist should try to follow.

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Speaker 1: His tour he just did was super successful too.

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Speaker 2: And he dropped the He went on tour before he

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Speaker 2: dropped the album, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: A man that's that demand.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was the crazy shit ever because he

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Speaker 2: dropped on his birthday, but his tour happened like probably

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Speaker 2: like a couple of months before, you know, so I

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Speaker 2: thought that sh was dope.

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Speaker 1: Would you say like that that kind of generation of

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Speaker 1: la hip hop, the Bravos, the Shorelines to Draco's like

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Speaker 1: a big influence on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeahred percent, you know what I mean. I mean, Bravo

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Speaker 2: and himself like just being independent. That should be like

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Speaker 2: every artist's dreams because he's eating everything he's putting out right,

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Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't have to split the pot with

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Speaker 2: nobody else but himself, you know what I mean. But uh,

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Speaker 2: Draco and like Charline's influence on artists and the people

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Speaker 2: itself is like definitely like generational, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you're also very like melodic with your ship. Is

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Speaker 1: that something like that? You always kind of just had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up singing, like I mean, I still sing,

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Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, grew up in like a singing household.

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Speaker 2: My mom loves to sing. You know. She's like to

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Speaker 2: this day, her and my dad are still in the

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Speaker 2: choir for the church. Oh shit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I grew up like my my background and it

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Speaker 2: was really like soul full gospel, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's where like it stems from. And

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Speaker 2: then just attaching that to like not being ugly kind

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Speaker 2: of works for me, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's a great line. Ye Like, look, I know

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Speaker 1: I'm not a bad looking guy. Yeah you know what

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Speaker 2: That way, it doesn't you don't seem too cocky, you know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've I've always I've always been able

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Speaker 2: to sing. I've always like sang. You know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you either like like if you can sing,

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Speaker 1: it's either your it's like you got to be like

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Speaker 1: kind of like road wave. People would be like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: this big dude sounds like.

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Speaker 2: Crazy because even who's that one artist? I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I'm saying it right, but cocky Cocky k or

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Speaker 2: Khaki ka no idea. Uh he's the one with the

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Speaker 2: Friday and Meek Mill that song.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I don't big dude, but can

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Speaker 1: sing his ass of the Proud to Me record. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know anybody else was on that song.

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Speaker 2: Well no, it's the no no, no, what song is that?

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Speaker 2: You know what song that is?

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Speaker 1: Cyrus died Choke Me? Please?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What what's your song name? Anyways? But yeah it

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Speaker 2: you can either go that. You can either really really

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Speaker 2: sing Chris Brown level or you know sorre.

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Speaker 1: You grew up in Pacoima, Yeah, I grew up.

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Speaker 2: My childhood is in Pacoima. And then from there, uh,

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Speaker 2: my parents, my parents, uh they move like Mission Hills, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and then shout out to Mission Hills.

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Speaker 2: Man, small city.

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Speaker 1: Mission Hills is like one of those places where when

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Speaker 1: you move to La you start like trying to like

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Speaker 1: damn all the houses are so expensive, and then you

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Speaker 1: get out to like Mission Hills. Oh you get a

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Speaker 1: little crib over here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean, Like the.

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Speaker 1: Deeper in the valley you get. Man, You're like, I

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Speaker 1: guess I'll drive. I could drive forty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: It's not that bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not there, you know what, And then before you

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Speaker 1: know it, you're hitting Santa Clarita on Zillo and you're like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Santa Creta is Yeah, Santa Claris is not bad.

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Speaker 1: Though it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: I like it out there, you know, it's definitely like

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Speaker 2: like I thought, I think the valley is out the

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Speaker 2: way spot, but Santa Clarita can't country. All that is

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Speaker 2: really out the out.

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Speaker 1: Super out the way, you know what it is because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're stuck. You're stuck, you know. But oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: my my, I grew up. My childhood house is right

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Speaker 1: So did you do any sports in the growing up?

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Speaker 1: What were you doing? Like, like, were you a good student?

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Speaker 2: Man? I was that delusional kid thinking he was gonna

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Speaker 2: make it in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude, your tonguing Yeah, so, like I mean, fuck,

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Speaker 1: there's so many tongue ins in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Not for so, I mean now. And then it got

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Speaker 2: to like a couple of years to where like we

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Speaker 2: finally started getting a little bit more wrecked on, like

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Speaker 2: the culture and stuff like that. Even in music, I

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Speaker 2: would say, because artists like Jay bug man.

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Speaker 1: I love I love that do it again. So it

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Speaker 1: was in Hawaii for like a week and I just

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Speaker 1: put j Buog Radio on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you J bug Is. I think he's

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Speaker 2: sman or he might be have, but he's incredible, even

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Speaker 2: to where like Fiji, who is our people's Bob Marley. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: sports side, Like I'm glad we're finally getting reognition because

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Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know what Tongans are Samoans

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Speaker 2: for sure, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I feel like most people group all of y'all in.

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Speaker 2: But now, and this is my biggest pet peeve and

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Speaker 2: there's nothing against him, but now my biggest pet peeve

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Speaker 2: is when they group us with Asians, right, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? So that's like it does you know,

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Speaker 2: so like they even gave like our month is grouped together.

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Speaker 2: Technically you guys are Pacific Islanders, right, No, not technically

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Speaker 2: we are, Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Technically yeah. Yeah. But then then there's like then between

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Speaker 1: because there's the Filipinos, who depending on which Filipino you ask, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they all say that they are also Pacific Islanders and

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Speaker 1: then others will say they're Asians. Yes, they're in between ers.

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Speaker 2: They are the in between her, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: like I said, there's nothing against them, I don't got

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Speaker 2: to no, you know, but it's like we're already so small,

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Speaker 2: like I'd rather want something for ourselves. You know.

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Speaker 1: So you were playing high school football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to Alamani, went to Alamani.

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Speaker 1: What was your position?

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Speaker 2: I played linebacker, but it was kind of like a

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Speaker 2: it was a rover position, so it's technically safety, but

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Speaker 2: they brought me down to the box a lot.

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Speaker 1: You were like a fucking Troy palm Alo type.

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Speaker 2: Bruh, yeah, kind of yeah, Buddha Baker one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite players. But yeah, you know, so that's what I

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Speaker 2: it was it was school practice, sleep, repeat, fire, you

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Speaker 1: So that's dope, man. Yeah, I mean I feel like

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Speaker 1: I feel like football is like the most obtainable because

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Speaker 1: there's so many roster spots, so it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you are I feel like it's one of those

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Speaker 1: sports that like you don't even have to be necessarily

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Speaker 1: the most gifted. If you just really grind and like,

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Speaker 1: it's enough sometimes to get on like a practice squad

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Speaker 1: or to get on special teams.

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Speaker 2: For sure, you know what I mean. And like I

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Speaker 2: would say, like even with like the homies, the only

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Speaker 2: place you don't really know I'm tonguing is in the

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Speaker 2: weight room. That's the only place, like outside people either

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Speaker 2: think I'm black Filipino.

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Speaker 1: Why did they think that? In the weight rooms because

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Speaker 1: you're strong?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, there was like a running joke, Kaylan. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it was Kailin or my boy Tie,

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Speaker 2: there was a running joke that I was on steroids,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So you're not on any pep tides.

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Speaker 2: Nah, No, I'm scared of needles. I don't even take

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Speaker 2: pre workout, no stretching, no nothing. As soon as we

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Speaker 2: walk in straight to the bench.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pre workout is. Uh, it's interesting. Yeah that should

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Speaker 1: have had me scratching my face like a tweaker.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Do that fucking pre workout is but it works. So

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Speaker 1: you know, so do you work? Are you pretty? You're

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Speaker 1: pretty like locked in at the gym.

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Speaker 2: Still No, not right now? Being on the run with jeez,

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Speaker 2: it's been like so and you try, you try to

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Speaker 2: stay disciplined on the road, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Hard, especially like on the food ship. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: no matter how hard you try, it's like if you

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Speaker 2: He's Simon. He's sing me. Yeah, but that's my boy though,

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Speaker 1: tour I got to go to that. It was special. Yeah,

431
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Speaker 1: it was a movie.

432
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: Now he's doing his thing, you feel me, So shout

433
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: out Craig my boy Mac, who I met through Craig

434
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 2: is a Mario the Scientist sound engineer, you know what

435
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean. So it's a lot of big things coming

436
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 2: out of that camp.

437
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 1: Uh. There's some big tongue in wrestlers. Do you know them?

438
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny enough. They just tapped in. I'm not

439
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: I used to be really big on wrestling growing up.

440
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, it's like my thing.

441
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm uh. I think Jay Fau just tapped in

442
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 2: with me on Instagram. Yep, dude, So brothers, there's.

443
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: Like like Tangaloa. There's there's three tongue in bruhs. One

444
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: of them just got released. But there's like the Tall

445
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: Full but yeah, the MFTs. I think two out of

446
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 1: the three MFTs are from tongue. Yeah.

447
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I was trying to follow the

448
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: storyline because IVE seen them pop up on TikTok.

449
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: But I mean, man, what you're in, you're in? Man,

450
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Then you go to wrestle Mania every year

451
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going to Summer Slam in August.

452
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Speaker 2: That's dope.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

454
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: See, like I grew up with that, you know. I

455
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 2: grew up with like the Shawn Michaels course, Shohn Seen

456
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, Like that was my and then

457
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: as soon as they also I see them still wrestling,

458
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 2: But it's not like the same.

459
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Speaker 1: Are you working on the project right now?

460
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Speaker 2: Uh?

461
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 1: No? Yes, and the singles you can do the single

462
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Speaker 1: thing singles.

463
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Speaker 2: I want there to be like more of a demand

464
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: for a project than putting out a body of work

465
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Speaker 2: that I'm proud of. That kind of like falls on

466
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Speaker 2: deaf ears, you know what I mean.

467
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because it's like I always tell people, until

468
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: you know the demand is there for album, and you'll

469
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: know when it's there. Yeah, Like dropping a whole body

470
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 1: of work is like a single shot into the algorithm.

471
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 2: Because you got to you gotta take to account. Right,

472
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: Drake just dropped three albums and Drake is one of

473
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: the biggest artists of our generation. I'm still skimming through

474
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: his album.

475
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, No one, Like everyone's only talking about Iceman exactly.

476
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy because the Habibi joints fire. I that

477
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: shit's hard, but no one's talking about that ship and

478
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this shit is like some of the

479
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: best R and B. Drake we've ever gotten. Facts here,

480
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: the Maine Honor shit is not for me.

481
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: I haven't even got there yet. But that's my point though,

482
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like getting them to attach and

483
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: gravitate to one song to three minutes and let alone

484
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: is hard. So once you drop ten songs or whatever.

485
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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you got ten records that you

486
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: feel strong about, that's ten different opportunities to shoot shots

487
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: into the algorithm, ten different different individual releases until like,

488
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: but you'll know, like when it's like I need to

489
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Speaker 1: drop a prober.

490
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: Or space them out. You know, if you got ten,

491
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: roll out three and depending on how those go, drop

492
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: the project together and throw those three back on the

493
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: project for sure, you know so, and it only adds

494
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: to extreame count. Yeah, you know what I mean.

495
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 1: So it How active are you in the studio? Are

496
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Speaker 1: you like in all the time.

497
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: All the time? Yeah, all the time. Right now, it's

498
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: been kind of tough because like my my main engineers

499
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: working with Brody, they're doing some crazy shit for a

500
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: lot of artists. So and not only that, but we've

501
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 2: been on the road that past two months.

502
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I mean the Ontario show was crazy, legendary.

503
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: Everybody in their mom came out. Yeah, we turned that

504
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Speaker 1: to a party. It was like it felt like one

505
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: of those like big radio shows. Yeah, it's like, damn

506
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: all in La came out at that motherfucker.

507
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: No. But the craziest part too, is it the one

508
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: in Glendale? Yeah, in As that one was so crazy

509
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: because it was like the homies were already there, like

510
00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: its greedo, sad, greedo jeezy Kaylin, Kaylin, you know what

511
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's like it towards j Z's end

512
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: of the set, everyone just came out on stage, show love,

513
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's where like the

514
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: vibe was, you know, we left, We left the venue like, bro,

515
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: we gotta do something like this. But in La, for sure,

516
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, to where it's like, yeah,

517
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: I feel like those shot outs to Jason and those guys.

518
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: They always do who Wants Smoke shows, but they always

519
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: doing Ontario. But yeah, it's always like Ontario. I they

520
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: just sitting out to Vegas. But it's like they gotta

521
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: do the Forum. You know what I meant to do

522
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: the farm or something like to where it's more you

523
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: know for sure. But I mean I'm not mad at

524
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: it though, because already end of the day is a

525
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: good time.

526
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: You already got your next single picked out.

527
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a single with me and Bravo.

528
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: I just got.

529
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: I just sent it over to Big Sad on it too,

530
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to wait a little bit so I

531
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: can get his verse. But be hard yet to get

532
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: all three guys on it. Come on. That's I'm telling

533
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: you that that one in itself, like with just Bravo

534
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: on it, is one of my favorite tracks I've made

535
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: in like two years.

536
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: What's it like growing up in Pacoima, because Pacoima is

537
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: some of the best Mexican food in the world is

538
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: in Pacoima. Yeah, my East Coast be cracking out there. Yeah,

539
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: it's also probably in the valley considered like one of

540
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: it's probably the most dangerous city in the valley. It's

541
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: like probably Pacoima panoramic city.

542
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean Pacoima. I would say it's just

543
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: an experience you got to like live, you know what

544
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Everything from like the ice Cream Man, which

545
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: we hardly see nowadays, right, you know, to the palaeo. Man,

546
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: it's like the people who walk around with the corn.

547
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: I feel like my childhood was like for Pacoima in itself.

548
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't. I'm not gonna sit here and

549
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: say that I experienced a lot out of it because

550
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I'm talking. So I spent

551
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: a lot of my time with my cousins right or

552
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of us. So I never felt

553
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: like I was missing anything. So it was either Pacoima

554
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: or North Hills, you know. So those are the two

555
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: places I bounced back and forth from because my family,

556
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: my grandma, like my home base basically from my like

557
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: my bloodline was right there in North Hills. But I

558
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: grew up where I grew up and where like I

559
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: laid my head and stuff like that. With Pacormia, you.

560
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: Never were like, uh, tempted to get into the gang

561
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: life because it is it is pretty active out there.

562
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of Hispanic gangs, you know, Perma part

563
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: rules out there.

564
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the two piece people. No, not really, I mean,

565
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: and it's not even that, it's not even that I

566
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: was like, obviously, people are influenced by what they're around

567
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But was I like tempted

568
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: to go from there? Not not really, but like a

569
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: lot of my family, a lot of my family members

570
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: bang yeah. So it was never like I'm seeing that.

571
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: Why would I wrap something else?

572
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like too,

573
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: It's like that it could go either way with that.

574
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: It's like if you see your family wrapped up in

575
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: some shit, it can deter you from like doing it.

576
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: It's almost like if you grew up around I'm like, like,

577
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I've never done like hard drugs. Obviously smoking, we do

578
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: mushrooms all that shit, but I never did, like know,

579
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: like real I'm never goingn cocaine, never popped the pain pill,

580
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: no hardcore like real drugs. Because I saw like my

581
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: whole family's like tweakers and drug addicts and my caroin

582
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: addicts and shit. So I'm like that shit. I saw

583
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: that shit growing up, and I was just like, nah, shit.

584
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I barely started smoking weed. I was like nineteen twenty,

585
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it wasn't like something

586
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: I was I would like, I wasn't smoking as a kid.

587
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even I wasn't even drinking like that until

588
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: I turned twenty one.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I feel it. I mean, and I feel

590
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: like if I played Pop warn Or two, it might've

591
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: turned out a little different. But I didn't like my childhood.

592
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: I was only doing basketball. So from like of age,

593
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: like six years old, you up until high school, I

594
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: was hooping.

595
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. So, did you ever

596
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: do the AAU thing? The AAU shit is crazy. It's

597
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: like a hustle. Dude. My son plays two different leagues.

598
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Speaker 2: It's for real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was either I was hooping and then

629
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: got to high school and sowitched the whole program up

630
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: to football.

631
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, how serious did the football dream get for you,

632
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: did you play, like consider going to college to play?

633
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: Or nah? Hell, I don't even take my SATs. I knew,

634
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: like as soon as I knew from the get I

635
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: wasn't going to college.

636
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: And then.

637
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: But both of my brothers, see like I got two brothers.

638
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: I got a older brother, yeah, and a younger brother.

639
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: My older brother, true Polynesian, true Polynesian, six four, like

640
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: three sixty five right now, just a specimen of a being.

641
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: We're only we're only like sixteen months apart. Crazy, you

642
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

643
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: But he's like true tonguing offensive lineman, ready to go

644
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Speaker 1: both offense and defense.

645
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: He's a no tackle offensive defense. So he went to

646
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: UH he went to U of A. And then my

647
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: baby brother, he just he looked just like me. He

648
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: went to ASU. So my my parents went their whole

649
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: teams in a Yeah, my parents went two for three

650
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: rivals out there. Yeah exactly exactly when they go against

651
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: each other and ship like that.

652
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Are they currently in college now?

653
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Not? My little brother graduated early and my older brother

654
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: graduated like years ago.

655
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Like, if if you weren't doing music, what could you

656
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: see yourself doing professionally? Mmmm?

657
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: That's a good one shore. I don't know. I don't know.

658
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: I had this dream of being a fireman. I mean

659
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: that could be fun, but other than that, I don't know,

660
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Like I really because outside even when I was you

661
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: know how I told you, like I've been on and

662
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: off with music. Even when I was off the music,

663
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: I was around music, right, you know what I mean,

664
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: Like all my homies and rappers. So like one of

665
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: my best friends is Kaitln. Yeah, so when I was

666
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: off music, all I was doing was kicking it with

667
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: bro you know. So I would go to the studio,

668
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: but it wasn't for me, right you know. So he's

669
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: another person that kind of like really influenced me and

670
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: helped me out a lot because when I wasn't doing

671
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: nothing musically, he kind of like kept that spark alive,

672
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: right you know. So I was heavily, heavily influenced by

673
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: like his work ethic even his music in itself too,

674
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: because like he's a lot of bag yeah with the melody,

675
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: you know. So like one thing about bros, like he'll

676
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: work his ass off for sure. He'll work is and

677
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't see it. He don't get

678
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: the recognition because obviously people don't see that side.

679
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: But he Yeah, there's certain people who's like studio process,

680
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: you'd be like super tripped out by like damn, like

681
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: if they weren't really like And then you'll be in

682
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: like the studio with other people who like work a

683
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: little slower yeah, and.

684
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: You're like.

685
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like Kalen is one of those guys, like

686
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: my artist Alexis, this kid can do a whole fucking

687
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: album and like a fucking no.

688
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: He saw I came here my last time here was

689
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: he he asked me to pull up, mind you, he'd

690
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: be up crackhead hours. He called me like three am.

691
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: It's that cocaine.

692
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he called me three am and was like what

693
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: are you doing. I'm like, shit sleeping and he was

694
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: like pull up to pull up to the studio right now,

695
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play my album crazy shit like you know.

696
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like it's like when you like, I

697
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: feel like everyone has their own process. But when you're

698
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: in the studio with like if you're homiees like yo,

699
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: and then you get in the studio with somebody who

700
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: takes their time a little bit more, You're like, Yo,

701
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers are slow.

702
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's and it's crazy because when we go

703
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: if me and Cale and go pull up on another

704
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: artist to do a feature or something like that, he

705
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: treats it. And this is what like I kind of

706
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: picked up on. He treats it as like a friendly competition,

707
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, like as soon as he likes to be,

708
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: he's on it.

709
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it.

710
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: Always just like stuns the other person.

711
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Like damn, bro, Grito's like that.

712
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: Bro.

713
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: We had Grito get on some ship and Grito just

714
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: like he's like, all right, play it and he just

715
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: went in and just like, damn, your one take is versive.

716
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Greta is another fast worker, too, super fast.

717
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: And then you go to like other studio sessions like

718
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: Jesus session, the control room quiet, nobody hears nothing until

719
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: it's done, you know what I mean. So like that's

720
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: also a trip too, because like it's different, you know,

721
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: so everyone's recording process is different. But I was blessed

722
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: and I was fortunate enough to like kind of pick

723
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: away at a lot of stuff and kind of just

724
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: take away what I like and see what I'm good

725
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: at and then just do it, you know, just practice

726
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 2: it on my own, Like when I step away from them,

727
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: So I definitely was like blessed in that sense.

728
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: So you got the new record with Jeez going crazy.

729
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: You've been on the road because you guys just did Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah,

730
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean music took you to Anchorage. That's gotta be crazy.

731
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: The craziest part is, like I'm going I'm I'm I'm

732
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: going with gis all these places with the mindset of

733
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: like I'm going there as support a lot of people,

734
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: a lot of or damn near nobody knows who I am, right,

735
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: So Angers was a trip because I'm walking through the

736
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: crowd to go send them my visuals like if you

737
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: played in the background, and it's like, mind you, there's

738
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: a lot of tongs out there that I didn't know.

739
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: I just found out that Alaska was a state. So

740
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm like tripped out. But I'm walking through the

741
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: crowd and it's like I'm getting stopped taking pictures like

742
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: you feelings like oh shoot, you're maka.

743
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. They have like I forget what the name of

744
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: because there's like the people who are native to Alaska

745
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: before it became a state. There's a name. I don't

746
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: want to fuck it up. They're not they don't like

747
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: to be called Eskimos. There's a name for him. It's

748
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: like a type of Native people out there, but they're

749
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: not Eskimos. That's I think that's kind of slurrish from

750
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: what I understand. I think.

751
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: So I think it's like, yeah, I think we're being

752
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: racist right now.

753
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't mean to be. I just

754
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm just off the head. But yeah, no, it's this

755
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: whole I mean, shout out to Alaska.

756
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: It was cold, Uh, it was cold, but Colorado was colder.

757
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Bro I was freezing Colorado.

758
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: You guys get Red Red Rocks, which is like one

759
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: of the most legendary venues man, and I was. Kevin

760
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Gates was on the show too.

761
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: He was a headliner. Yeah, he was a headliner. But

762
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Red Rocks is probably the best venue I've ever been to.

763
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: You know, that ship's a movie. Even the drive up

764
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: was so scenic. It was like crazy, and it was raining,

765
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: so there was like a lot of red clay on

766
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: the floor. But I feel like he made the experience

767
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: a lot better. Like, you know, so that show, I'm

768
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: telling you was insane. I was surprised they didn't headline it,

769
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: but shout out Kevin Gate.

770
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I was telling Rory the same thing.

771
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, you guys, do you

772
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: guys get headline red Rocks like shots Kevin Gates. Kevin

773
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: Gates get headline red Rocks? He did, know I'm saying,

774
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: but I'm like, you guys got to go spin the

775
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: block on that ship.

776
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: Like now we they definitely talked to the right person,

777
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: so you know, there we might be at Red Rocks again.

778
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: But for the first time, that shit was dope, you

779
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I was even asking people

780
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: that were out there in Colorado. I was like, it's

781
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 2: Kevin Big out here. They're like, oh, dude, love Kevin.

782
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Ye, people love bro Kevin Gates has a thing. Yeah,

783
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: it's He's huge, bro. And it's crazy too because like

784
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: it's like almost like turned into this like cult following

785
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: even though he's like a huge artist, Like people don't

786
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: understand how like committed his fans are.

787
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: No. And see, that's what I preach to like a

788
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: lot of people and even to like my team, is

789
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: that I don't see music as the.

790
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: End, you know what I mean.

791
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: So I Kevin Gates is a good example, but the

792
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: example I always use is like somebody like Blueface, right,

793
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: so their whole get down is like it doesn't even

794
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: matter if they drop music or not, or how long

795
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: it's been since they drop music. They have core fans

796
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: who are like they're in tune to what they're doing

797
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: as a personality.

798
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, blue Face has turned the like his life into

799
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: a reality show for the.

800
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: Last six or seven in his work, and he's going crazy.

801
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: It works because people are so personally invested in his

802
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: life that they're like, yo, what's up with the baby

803
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: mama and the other baby mamas? And it's like, like

804
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: the toy's doing right now, it looks like it's going

805
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: very well, like blue Face. I mean even you know,

806
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: he took you know, I feel like a lot of

807
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: people think it's too late to get into the streaming game.

808
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: But he got got out of prison and got right

809
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: to the streaming shit. Yeah, I heard he just got

810
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: a crazy deal with Kick Like.

811
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: But that's what a lot of people don't understand is that, like,

812
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: music can only get you so far, and you can

813
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: do really well in music, but if you can get

814
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: a group of people, I know, people that don't listen

815
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: to Blue Face and music but was tune into a stream,

816
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's all.

817
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's people who are Kevin Gates fan. That's

818
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: the only rapper they like, like you know what I mean,

819
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Like for sure, you know.

820
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: What I mean. So I like, I want to try

821
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: to use the music as like that driving factor to

822
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: give me to that point where it's like it doesn't

823
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: matter what I do, you know, because and everyone's situation

824
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: is different, Like people like Frank Ocean for being mysterious

825
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: for sure, you know what I mean. He's like the

826
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: only person who could really be named as a headliner

827
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: for Coachella and then pull out last minute.

828
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

829
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: And as to his personality, his person adds.

830
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: To the whatever the aura or like, because even when

831
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: he did perform that first weekend, it kind of didn't perform,

832
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: But he's like, I'm Frank Ocean, I do whatever the

833
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: funk I wanted exactly. He's like the mail Lauren Hill.

834
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: And then people gonna go for it, yeah you know

835
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like they're not canceling him because he

836
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: pulled out last minute. They're like, that's on Frank Ocean.

837
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: Shit have been I would have been mad. Likes almost

838
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: about tickets for my son to go, and I'm like,

839
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I thank god I didn't.

840
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people were mad at to

841
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: Justin Bieber.

842
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: I thought that ship was cool, But I also wasn't there.

843
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: You know. I thought that ship was a vibe. That's

844
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: the close thing you're gonna get to kicking it with JV,

845
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you want to know

846
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: what it's like the kid like.

847
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: That's probably what it's gonna get hundred percent.

848
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: You know.

849
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: So I thought that ship was cool.

850
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was unique. I

851
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: never seen thating like that before, for sure.

852
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: Did you were you there? No? I just watched on

853
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: YouTube shout the beach Man. All right, man, we'll listen

854
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: to a new single on the way, hopefully with Big

855
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: Shad and Bravo's already on it. Yeah, record will though

856
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Jezus out.

857
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and then hopefully album coming out by the

858
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: end of this year. You know.

859
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: So, where can people find you on? On Instagram and

860
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: all that good stuff?

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