1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast has suggestions for Carrie Underwood. 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined by a 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: What Up Boys, It's back? Had to do it, had 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: to bring it back finally, so one game one podcast 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: hiatus for that. Well, this is what it came down 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: to the people. The people. The people spoke and they 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: said they loved What Up Boys. There was even a 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: hashtag hashtag team what Up Boys? And who am I 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: to defy the people? When you can sound like an 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: early two thousands but light commercial, you gotta go for it. 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: And that was again that's a good point because do 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: I do? I? Do I still worry about the T 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: shirt and the head on the T shirt and what 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: a boys? Yes, but you have to accept what you're 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: possibly think. The T shirt has already been created by 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: someone else. Right as soon as you mentioned the T 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: shirt it Oh heyk ch if you go on Twitter, 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: there's a lovely young lady at Hello mindy bear who 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: created this great T shirt? What up with hands? Raise 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: your hands? And when Dan came up with this narrative. 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: There was a subplot in his mind that said, oh, 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: someone will create a T shirt with my face on 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: it if I come up with this. I'm not that clever. 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Way too many steps. I like that your philosophy borrows 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: from Vince McMahon. Just give the people what they want. Well, 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: it checks out time and time again. All Right. It 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: was a wild, crazy Sunday, arguably, maybe not even arguably 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the wildest Sunday of the year. Um crazy weather, crazy finishes, 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: particularly in the early games. Greg was this your favorite 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Sunday had to be in the craziest because no other 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: day could match the Minnesota Baltimore ending with five touchdowns 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: in the last two of five. At the same time, 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots falled down by twelve with two forty to 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: go and managed to win the game. And then the 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: crazy field go at the end of that, and the 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: crazy ending to the Steelers game. So those three and 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: then you throw in snow everywhere and Lashawn McCoy's running 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: through a snowstorm. It was. It was fun, except for 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: I was getting a lot of tweets, uh and the 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: A T. L count was getting a lot of tweets 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: directed asking how Mark Sessler was doing during during the 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: downfall of the Browns, and Mark you you weren't. You 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: were basically catatonic during that well, because while I was 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: watching that out of one eye, I'm dealing with this 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: five touchdown two minutes best games, trying to you know, 48 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: write a cognizant right up on both and so I'm 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: not just like a guy to sports bar. And we'll 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: get more into the Browns later. But this set the 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: NFL record correct for touchdowns in a Sunday, most touchdowns 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: in a Sunday. We also had the all time longest 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: field goals, I mean just after and long lived the 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: end of the sixty three yard field goal record. It 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: was a matter of time before somebody, you know, got 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: some testicular fortitude gave a guy a chance in those altitudes. Anyway, 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: let's get going. Let's start with the Minnesota Baltimore game 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: where Joe Flacco through a nine yard touchdown pass to 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Marlon Brown with four seconds to play, capping a flurry 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: of scores on an icy field and giving the Ravens 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: win over the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday. As Greg said earlier, 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: that was five touchdowns scored in the final one five seconds. 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Unprecedented stuff. Mark, you were there, you tail take me 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: through it. Well. I mean, I think weather was a 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: huge factor in this, especially early it was Flacco looked, 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: he looked disturbed. It was snowing so heavily. He just 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: he you know, stuff like Jack Nicholson and the shining. 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: He's had thirteen games in his career, he's thrown three 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: picks like he did today. This is only the second 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: time he wanted. But a lot of it had to 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: do I my m v P for this game, and 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: we talked about the five touchdowns and everyone basically who 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: wore a jersey score today. But the mini plows, the 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: little snowblower juniors, I mean, we talked with they're not Zamboni's. 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what to call them, but they're they're 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: sort of golf carts with snowblower junior guys that ride 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: the little ones. The men that take the big ones 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: in the parking lot after the game. Are true with 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: more respect within the infrastructure of whatever the stadium complex 80 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: they should have been today in Baltimore because I think 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that well listen, this could have gone either way. But 82 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: they did a nice job cleaning this field up at halftime, 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: and then the scoring just started, and it was There 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: were five moments, obviously in the last two minutes where 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: if you're watching this or if you're trying to report 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: on it in some fashion, you thought that was it. 87 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Toby Gearhard just rolled in for forty one yard touchdown 88 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: game over. Oh no, wait, Jacoby Jones just rolled in 89 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: for a seventies seven yard kick return game over. Then 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Cordarrel Patterson long touchdown game over. Nope, none of these 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: were game over. And it's just I you know, my 92 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: head was spinning. Chip has got to drive down to 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore and get some of those plows because they weren't 94 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: even trying to go for extra points when they're up eight. Well, 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: in the all days, you know like, oh wait till 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: the home teams lining up for that game, when you 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: feel go, then you get out there with the with 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: the brushes in the snow. Plus they were an equal 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: opportunity employer, but vastly entertaining game. But the big news, 100 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean Peterson, Adrian Peterson went down with an injury 101 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: that Ian Rappaport. It was told he was a mile 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: or a midfoot screen right, it made foot sprints. It 103 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: was good to see that it wasn't potentially very serious 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: because when it happened, he was pounding the tart and reminded, 105 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone of when he blew out his knee 106 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: two years ago. So it's good to see that it 107 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: doesn't look like it's a season season ending or potentially isn't. 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Uh And from the Ravens perspective, West, I'll throw it 109 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: to you on this and this was obviously a must 110 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: win game. Well maybe not must win, but everything goes 111 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: wide open in the a f C if they blow 112 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, they're in control of their own destiny 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: in the a f C playoff picture. They have their 114 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: head to head tiebreaker over the doll Offins, but they 115 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: also have three tough games to close out the season. 116 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: This was one you kind of counted on when you 117 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: looked at their schedule, so it would have been a 118 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: huge loss. What a drive there, forty one seconds to 119 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: get the t d Andy Dalton through for three touchdowns 120 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: and ran for another. On Sunday, the scale just going 121 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: out of control over this, uh, and the Cincinnati Bengals 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: remained perfect at home and in control of the a 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: f C North with a victory over the Indianapolis Colts. 124 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: Despite the loss, the Colts clinch at the NFC South 125 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: because the Titans were defeated by the Broncos. Greg Andy Dalton, 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: is he now back to good Andy Dalton? And is 127 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: that bode well for the Bengals potentially getting a by 128 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: well his the Dalton Coast there is much more predictable 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: than the Gino Coast September terrible, October, player of the Month, 130 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: November miserable. Now we're into December. Well maybe he already 131 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: played in game in December, but he was excellent. You 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: have to give him a lot of credit. I like 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: that they stayed aggressive from the first drive to the 134 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: end of the game. A lot of third down throws, 135 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: a lot of plays down the field. There were so 136 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: many moments in a second half where the Colts looked 137 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: like they were going to get back in the game, 138 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: and the Bengals just responded with a long drive. So hey, 139 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: I gotta give give the guy some du and Jeo 140 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Bernard is the difference in this offense. He was the 141 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: best player on the field. Again. Can we get an 142 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: uh some kind of review of Dave Rick Rogers? Oh? Yeah, 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: that was the one nice thing with the Colt's a 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: high point in the ball, a good guy to get 145 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown in in short yardage or in the red zone, 146 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: and then made a nice run after catch. Just looks 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: big and Darius Heyward Bay dropped another big pass. So 148 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: I think Roger's gonna be a big factor for them 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: down the stretch. But this offense is hard to watch 150 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: at times. I mean, they played, they played better in 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the second half, but by then it felt like the 152 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: game was almost over. They just couldn't block, they couldn't 153 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: do anything. I feel like Wes was ahead of the 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: curve on this that the Colts might stink. Correct, I 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: think that's fair. This was the perfect way to win 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the an FC South because it's a terrible division, and 157 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: they got whacked and they won the division that day. 158 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: They still even lost two straight games. But I don't 159 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: think they're a very good team. I think there could 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: be the worst team that makes the playoffs. They were 161 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: last year the first team in NFL history to win 162 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: eleven games and have a negative point differential. This year, 163 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: they're the only winning NFL team with a negative point differential. 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: They're not very good, and this is the defense is 165 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: bad too. That's a big factor and one thing I 166 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: took away because he's on my fantasy league. In my 167 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: league of record, t Y Hilton has not been up 168 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: to the challenge of being a number one receiver with 169 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne out. I believe he had seven yards receiving 170 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: in a in a game in which Luck through four 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: late touchdowns, so he was not able to And that's 172 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: been a recurring theme. But with the exception of maybe 173 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: one game, Hilton has not really been a difference maker. 174 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: And and the Bengals defense keeps getting it done without 175 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Leon Hall. They lost Terrence Newman today, they don't have 176 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Geno Atkins, and it's like it it doesn't matter. You 177 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: have to give the Bengals defense a lot of credit. 178 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer and I think they're playing better towards the 179 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: end of the season. The Bengals. I think Zimmer is 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in the NFL. All right, 181 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: let's move on. Uh. Tom Brady through two touchdown pass 182 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: is in the final sixty one seconds, helping the Patriots 183 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: rally for a victory over the Cleveland Browns on Sunday. 184 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: The Browns, after that score final score by the Pats, 185 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: took the ball down to the Patriots forty with one 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: second left, but Billy kind of missed a fifty eight 187 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: yard field goal at the gun. Mark was their emotionless 188 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: uh drago style, like, hey, you say, Marcus another game. 189 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: Mark was at any games, Mark was teleporting. Mark was 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: there in heart and spirit, and uh, it didn't feel 191 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: good to it. It did not feel good. I will 192 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: say that I have watched a lot of Brown's losses 193 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: this season, and I and Dan has uh. He portrays 194 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: me as a guy that sits there feeling nothing. And 195 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: that's mostly true because twenty five years of this, uh 196 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: sort of beats it out of you. But I kind 197 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: of got a little close to thinking. Look, today you 198 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: go into Gillette. The Browns haven't beaten the Patriots and 199 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Gillette since Bill Belichick was clevel One's coach. This would 200 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: have been nice. And you know what, they did everything 201 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: they could. Cleveland has talent, they don't know how to 202 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: win games. They don't know how to close out because 203 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: even there they're better. Players showed up to the Jordan 204 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Cameron had a nice game after vanishing for about a month. 205 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell, the good Jason Campbell showed up today where 206 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't a complete disaster. Josh Gordon leads the NFL 207 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: with four hundred yards receiving, and he had missed two 208 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: games this season. Right, but you should be angry because 209 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: you got ripped off by the officials in this game 210 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: after the outside kick recovery by the Patriots, a past 211 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: interference call that puts the ball in the one yard line. 212 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Everyone knows it wasn't a p I was a bad call, 213 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: and it cost your team the game. We hold on 214 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: not even Greg wasn't even excited when it happened, because Greg, 215 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you knew it. They were they were gifted that win. Well, 216 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: that's is that happens in football. And it was a 217 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: ridiculous call, frankly, and I could have won the game 218 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: without that call though it wasn't. It wasn't third and 219 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: fifteen or fourth down there were they would have had 220 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: more chances, but bought line. I had plenty of time. Yeah, 221 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: and I take more positives away the negatives from the 222 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland angle in this. I just have to, because bottom line, 223 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: this team could easily just go south and quit on 224 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: the coach and everything. I don't see that from them. Well, 225 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: and they lost. The Patriots lost. Rob Gronkowski even if 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: they would certainly trade the win to have Grenkowski win 227 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: or lose. This you can just trade in wins for 228 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: others win or lose. It was a terrible day for it, 229 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: and they're not playing well two straight weeks. This game 230 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: falls under damage ex Jenga theory. Gronkowski, out of all 231 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: non quarterbacks in the NFL, might be the most valuable 232 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: player uh to his team. And they've lost four of 233 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: their ten best players now for the season, four of 234 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: the best seven. I would say, I mean Mayo will Fork. 235 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Now you add Gronkowski to the mix, the one who 236 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: changes everything about how teams attack them. The defense falls 237 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: apart more every week. I mean, Jason Campbell had three 238 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns in this team and they lucked out. 239 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: They still have the two seed, but you have to 240 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: wonder about their ability to win the New England. Before 241 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Gronk came back, they were twenty second in the league 242 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: and scoring with him, they were second. And we've been 243 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: saying this for weeks. Chris wrote a long piece about 244 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: this last week, which was excellent. It's like he, along 245 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: with him and Edeln you plugged them in together. They 246 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: change this offense. Gronk is is what makes it go 247 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: and it is a real concern for New England just fading. 248 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: With that said, you gotta give one little bit of 249 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: credit to them for field goal touchdown, field goal touchdown, 250 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: touchdown and all that's without and they'll be given plenty 251 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: of credit, right, Don't you worry Brady? If I was 252 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: if I had a team to root for and Brady 253 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: came on for a one minute drill with scared, scare 254 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: me to death. He's so good and he's so under 255 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: control at all times. It's a bummer about Gronk, especially 256 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: he's very handsome. It's a bummer about Gronk because we 257 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: had even been talking here about how he looked even 258 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: faster coming back from that injury, and now he's got 259 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: a serious knee injury. So all of a sudden, you know, 260 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: his career, the challenges piling piling up. Let this be 261 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: a warning to all the players out there. Take the 262 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: guaranteed money, take the short money, don't try to get 263 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: too close to freeze. Since the moment Gronkowski has signed 264 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: that contract, he's had four four arms surgeries, a back surgery, 265 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: and towards a c L that's in about a year. 266 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: That's fair. The Bionic Man Charles Clay caught two touchdowns, 267 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: including a twelve yard pass from Ryan Tannehill with two 268 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: fifty three remaining, and the Miami Dolphins beat the Pittsburgh 269 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday. Um. The final play of the game 270 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: is what really jumps out. Antonio Brown raced into the 271 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: end zone after a series of laterals on the final play, 272 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: but officials ruled he stepped out before he scored, which 273 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: was the correct ruling. Sideline Karma A Wes. Yes, that 274 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: was one of the most fun plays I've ever seen. 275 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: The rare lateral five lateral play involving an offensive lineman 276 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: or basically also the type of play that gets the 277 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: NFL media newsroom going. Everybody was on their feet now 278 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: out of his chair, but very rare. It's very rare. 279 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: I believe I did a stomp at some point. It 280 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: was It was fun that, you know that, not to 281 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: backtrack on the Browns game. That was a crazy news 282 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: moon because you knew exactly what happened based on the 283 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: sound of everyone because it was all sorry, yes, the 284 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: I think we might be forking the Steelers five and eight. Now, 285 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: it's something to discuss. Pro have to win out and 286 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: have the Ravens lose. I think all three. Yeah. I 287 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: guess we won't discuss it officially until it's over Danish 288 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: and locks and coffee and tea, but I feel, I 289 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: certainly feel it's over for those Steelers. How could you 290 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: at eight losses with three games thirty four points to 291 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: a Florida team in the snow, second most points Joe 292 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Philbins team has ever scored. I saw a serious article 293 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: this week in Miami about how Tan Hills never played 294 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: in the cold and that he's gonna struggle. It's like, 295 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: shut up, you don't know anything about that. What's you play? 296 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: You play in the cold or you don't you know, 297 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna know anything about that. And I think 298 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: I think we all respected the Steelers too much during 299 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the season to to rule them out and we never 300 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: stuck the fork in him to this point, and then 301 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: to lose at home in the snow to the Miami Dolphins, 302 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: that's disgraceful. They feel like, I mean, I think their 303 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: offense and you wrote it in your post, you can't 304 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: blame Big Ben in in Antonio Brown for anything that's happened. 305 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: But the defense, there's some issues yeah, you've got I 306 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: think Paula Malu, Ryan Clark, Brett Keisel, and Ike Taylor 307 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: are probably all gone in the alley. Yeah, we should 308 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: be queuing cue the music. Here lies Dick Lebo's defense. 309 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: He just gave a hundred five yards to Daniel Thomas 310 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: and it must Hey, that's your favorite player. Geno Smith 311 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass and ran for another score. Is 312 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: The New York Jets set a season high for points 313 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: and stopped the three game skid with a thirty seven 314 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: twenty seven victory over the Oakland Raiders. The Geno coaster 315 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: back on the Rails, operational. He actually looked proficient. He 316 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: looked like an NFL quarterback. He got some whagger back. 317 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: The Jets are now six and seven, still in a 318 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: really bad spot. The Ravens losing would have really helped them, 319 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: but as it stands are still kind of buried. Or 320 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The Dolphins the Rails. Is this a new 321 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Dan hnts term? The swagger take back back swaggers kind 322 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: of last all of one pass attemp next, Ga Carolina, 323 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I say they've just pulled the dead bodies from the 324 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Gino coast. At this point, I don't think it's back 325 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: on the rails now. They put it on the rails. 326 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: It's operational, it's kind of creaky, it's moving along. Now, 327 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: what happens when when the Jets and Gino Smith go 328 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: to Carolina next week? You know, catastrophe, high level calamities 329 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: of those kid coasters that are just kind of racketing along. No, 330 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: and he was far from perfect. He missed some throws 331 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: through bed interception, but he improved greatly. And for if 332 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: nothing else, Rex Roan does have to answer any questions 333 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: about Matt freaking Sims this week. So yes, exactly, as 334 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: u al Michaels would say, this game was huge for 335 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: the softball I feel like we're burying the lead here. 336 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: You know what, that's a great point speaking of which 337 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: I don't know that sounds dominant. Here lies pants, a 338 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: fine discussion piece ruined by the Raiders fantastic nature. By 339 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: sticking the fork in the discussion, we take the fork 340 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: out of West's softball pants. We'll never know if west 341 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: could functionally digest a zipper of Chris Westley, of course, 342 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: promised to eat a softball pants. If the Raiders get 343 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: to six wins, mathematically they are still alive, but they 344 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: would have to win two out of three, including a 345 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: road trip to Denver. They've got the Chiefs and the 346 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: Chargers not looking good. Season finale still looms as a 347 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: wild card. I'm not confident yet. The Broncos would have 348 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: to have nothing. They had to get this one. Him 349 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: in a question. If we fork a team and they 350 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, we have to give a tremendous amount 351 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: of money, as Greg did to the Red Cross a 352 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: year ago. There you go, right, So what if will 353 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Chris Westley need to softball pants happens? Wow? What do 354 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: we do? Nothing? We all win, We're all happy, and 355 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Chris dies. I'm really bummed out of I'm happy that 356 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: the Jets one, but it was the worst case scenario 357 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: where I had to root against the Raiders in the 358 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: spot it really looked good. It was what was the 359 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: loss that basically cinched it? This was the one that 360 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: guaranteed now, But what was the killer loss that they 361 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: had the big lead? Was it against the Yeah, the 362 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Titans game was the one that So it looks like 363 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna get away with its nice. I might not 364 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: make that statement again. Next door, Rosy flushed to his cheeks. 365 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: He's happy. In fact, you have to make it next year, 366 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: and you got to pick a different team maybe too running. 367 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: It is our goal to kill you basically, So this 368 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: comes down to, Okay, it's a time of the show. 369 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: Every Sunday, we reach out to our Chicago correspondent. He's 370 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: been spending his day disco dancing with John Legend, but 371 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: now he's with us. Kevin Patra, I'm sired from disco dancing. Man. 372 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: You should be hanging out with Chrissy Tiger, not John Lyndon. 373 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: I think it's Teagan. Teagan, a surprisingly frisky Twitter follow, 374 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: also also follows me on Twitter. Um, Kevin Patra. Uh, 375 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about the games that you were focusing in on. 376 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: We'll start in Philadelphia. Snowy Philadelphia, where Lashawn McCoy rushed 377 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: for a franchise best two hundred and seventeen yards, including 378 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: touchdowns of fifty seven and forty yards, and the Eagles 379 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: overcame two touchdown returns by Jeremy Ross to beat the 380 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions twenty in blizzard conditions on Sunday. I think 381 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: they said late in the telecast there was eight inches 382 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: of snow on the ground. Uh. That's five straight wins 383 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: for Kay Rich's Eagles, putting them a half game up 384 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: in the NFC East. Kevin Patrick, you're alliance today. That's 385 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: a terrible loss, right, you know, La. Shawn McCoy's just 386 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: fun to watch though. He looked out there. He looked 387 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: like he was the only one in spikes like everyone 388 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: else was like when you go play the park and 389 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the only one kid's got spikes and that he's running 390 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: around and everyone else is slipping. It was like the 391 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: kid that had the spikes like fancy nikes. Yeah, I 392 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: mean he was untappable and the Lion's defensive line couldn't 393 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: figure out the zone blocking I mean, the zone read scheme. 394 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean they were just getting blocked and there was 395 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: huge holes and then McCoy was making the secondary looked 396 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: like fools. That's pretty much the entire second half how 397 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: he went. Nick Foles, you know, he had he threw 398 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: his first pick today of the season. Um, you know, 399 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: he looked pretty bad early. Uh he you could tell 400 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: he was struggling with the conditions. But you know, in 401 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: the second half, it just seemed like he was like, 402 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, what's screw it, I'm throwing deep and he 403 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: connected on a couple of deep passes and then they 404 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: just ran over the lines and that's that was the 405 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: end of the game. It's without the two return touchdowns. 406 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the line's offense had one twenty year drive 407 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: for a touchdown and they really didn't do anything there 408 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: in the whole game. Sorry as Alliance fan, I mean, 409 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: I know there's some frustration with the coaching situation there, 410 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: but wasn't this the kind of game when you're clutching 411 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: to the NFC North lead that Jim Schwartz needs to 412 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: find a way to win. Absolutely, I mean, and and 413 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: and not only win, play a lot better in the 414 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: second I mean, it didn't look like they made any 415 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: adjustments on to the to the Eagles run run game, 416 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: and and they just got boled over. I mean it 417 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: just to me, Schwartz Shwarts got thoroughly outcoached today. And 418 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: just the little things that bothered me, like why would 419 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: you take the he won the coin toks and you 420 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: take the kickoffs in in a blizzard storm and you 421 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: have to imagine that to get better at second half? 422 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Why the heck would you take he does every week? 423 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Id of he always takes the ball, But good Lord, 424 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, coming down like it's ridiculous. Just 425 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: those little things that bothered Patrick. What happened with Reggie 426 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: bush Um, Well, apparently he aggravated his CAF injury before 427 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: the and he says he didn't fall, even though the 428 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: original report says he flipped in the in the in 429 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: the in the snow Um. But yeah, I think, you know, 430 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: not having him out there again, as we've seen when 431 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: he's not in the game this past year. Uh, it's 432 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: a different offense. And I think he could have done 433 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of what Lashaw McCoy did in space 434 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: today and where other defenders can't cut and you know 435 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: where you're going and you're just off to the races. 436 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: To Patrick's point, we didn't. We didn't. We didn't get 437 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: to see his two or three fumbles that he would 438 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: have brought to the party. To Patrick's point on McCoy, 439 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: he's had some ups and downs this year, but he's 440 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: had some signature games. I mean, he had a hundred 441 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: eighty four yards on Monday Night Football in the season opener. 442 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: He has two hundred yards in the snow. He had 443 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: the game against Green Bay where he just ended the 444 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: game with a long drive to beat the Packers, and 445 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: he had another monster game against Kansas City where he 446 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: thought he was out for the the entire game, and 447 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: he comes back. Saw mcoy has had some moments here 448 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: under Chip Kelly, I'm enjoying it. Back to the lines 449 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: real quick. It's a problem when your second best receiver 450 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: was playing on the Packers early in the season. That's 451 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: a problem. That that's a good point. Let's move on 452 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: to the next game. Kevin Matt Flynn through fifty eight 453 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: yards and the Packers struggling defense for us, the key 454 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter turnover and at two win Sunday over the 455 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons that snapped a five game winless streak, not 456 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: a losing streak. They had that tie for the Packers, 457 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: and uh, this is a game, and what Packers are 458 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: losing eleven points and and to be honest with you, 459 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: they didn't look at inspiring the entire game to me. 460 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: Matt win he had okay numbers at the end of 461 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: the day, but he still passed the ball and he 462 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: just hops in the pocket for like hours. Like if 463 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: Atlanta had any pass rush at all, this would have 464 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: con been in a completely different game. But they absolutely 465 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: do not, so he was able to sit there and 466 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: finally find some receivers In the second half. There was 467 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: a Fluke touchdown um whether smooth you know, kicked off 468 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: a guy's flot that made it early in the game 469 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: in the first half. But other than that, Atlanta was 470 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: not in firing it all. They look like they're ready 471 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: to fold it into the rest of the season, if 472 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: they haven't already. Have to be a little worried that 473 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: this is the game though that keeps the Packers in 474 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: the mix than Aaron Rodgers, Retinas Andrea, and that that's 475 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: the game they needed. When it was I was thinking 476 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, here we go. I mean, maybe Rogers 477 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: has done for the season, but absolutely not not. I mean, 478 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't see why he wouldn't come back next week 479 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: if you can. I mean we said that every week. 480 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: But I mean they were a half game back. They 481 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: have no reason to doubt the lines won't blow the 482 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: one of the next two games and they take over 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: the leak. And in a smaller picture, since all you 484 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers fantasy owners, if the Packers lost that game today, 485 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: it would have greatly increased the chances they might slow 486 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: his his recovery down or stop it outright, the rehab 487 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: of it, or at least trying to come back this year. 488 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Now they're in the mix and everything's in play. Good 489 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: news for everybody. Kevin. Kevin asked John Legend when you 490 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: got off the phone if he was the ghostwriter of 491 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: the Miseducationation of Lauren Hill. That's an old urban legend. Okay, 492 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I'll check it out, alright, thanks buddy. Yep, Truman Capodi 493 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: was the ghost writer for Tequilla Mockingbird? Did you seven 494 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: year old podcast listeners? I'm going for thirty four year olds. 495 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: That's going for eighty seven year old? Did you guys 496 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: ever hear that? By the way, I've never heard that. 497 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: That's a great album. Yeah, it is a great one. 498 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's keep rolling. Rookie Mike Glennon rebounded from 499 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: one of his worst performances of the season to throw 500 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: two touchdown passes and lead the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to 501 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: a twenty seven six victory over the struggling Buffalo Bills 502 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: on Sunday. That is now five of six losses for 503 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: the Bills are four and nine and assured of finishing 504 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: without a winning record for the ninth straight season, extending 505 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: the NFL's longest playoff drought to fourteen years. Greg Uh, 506 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon, did he play a lot better? It didn't 507 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: sound like a compared He had a terrible game. He 508 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: was nine for twenty five. He was three and a 509 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: half yards. Pretend it's a bad and for these Bills 510 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: that Mike Glennon played a dep plus game and they 511 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: lost in a blowout. This game was never close. Buffalo 512 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: has gotten worse as the end of the season has 513 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: come on. We thought they might make a run, and 514 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: they haven't been competitive the last couple of weeks. Whereas 515 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: the Bucks are flying around on defense and they've not 516 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: won four or five games. They're like the NFC's version 517 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: of the Jags. He's and bad news for the Bills. Uh. Yeah, 518 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: they're struggling as they come down the stretch. And then 519 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I saw a report on ESPN dot com that they 520 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: may cut down quote unquote offense. Cut down the offense 521 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: for EJ Manual, who I guess had one of his 522 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: worst games that season. He's had some real bad ones, 523 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: now this was one of them. Here's what they should 524 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: cut out of the offense. The play where e J 525 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: Manuel drops back from center and then he just holds 526 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: the ball and looks around all panic for like fifteen 527 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: seconds and then he gets sacked. Because that was the 528 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: play that kept calling today. I can't believe they keep 529 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: calling that plays. Everything's laid out for you beforehand. Not 530 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: to call that. I like to call that. The Tim 531 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: Couch is Thaddeus Lewis better than EJ Manuel so far 532 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: this year? He was Yes, I think so. I have 533 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: a well quick question. I mean, you look at the 534 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: grim thing to say about it this based on this year. 535 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: You look at manual, when you look at Geno Smith 536 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: and what would stop these teams from finding a different quarterbacks. 537 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: No way the Bills will give up on their first 538 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: round pick. That's not right away, but that's a great point. 539 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Daddeus Lewis just looked more with it. He's a rookie 540 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: that was expected to take a little while, but it's 541 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: been ugly. The Kansas City Chiefs scored early and off 542 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: in Sunday, breaking a three game losing streak with a win. 543 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: An embarrassing loss for the Washington Redskins. Uh. This was 544 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: a game that was seventeen nothing after the first quarter, 545 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: thirty eight ten at halftime and West. It was all 546 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: set against the background of reports and speculation that Mike 547 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: Shanahan could be gone at the end of the season. 548 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like a nightmare scenario in d C. It 549 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: was a meltdown of epic proportions every facet of the game. 550 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: That the Redskins were a train wreck. They have the 551 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: worst special teams I've ever seen this year. They have 552 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: given up I believe more punt return yards, didn't kick 553 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: return yards, which is I mean average, which is very 554 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: hard to do. They gave up a punt return touchdown 555 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: and to kickoff return touchdown. Today They were a mess. 556 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: They can't tackle, they can't do anything on offense, and 557 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: they can't play special teams. And their head coach is 558 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: cleaning out his office. The only question is whether Shanahan 559 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: gets fired before people even listen to this podcast, or 560 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: it's at next week or at the end of the season, 561 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: because he's fired and the in the minute I knew 562 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: that was the minute that ESPN report came out this morning, 563 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: that kick started at that Shanahan and Snyder were ad 564 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: odds last year. And then a report comes out that 565 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: the Redskins officials believe that Shanahan leaked the report and 566 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: that he wants out so he can go try to 567 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: coach the Texans. They're not They're not hiring Mike Shanahan. 568 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: No one's hiring Mike Shanahan. Are you kidding? Mike Shanahan's 569 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: trying to get fired. It's it's amazing. It's as low 570 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: as it gets today. How long can you coast on 571 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl wins from the nineties? This is a 572 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: totally you know, to look at spilled parcels. I don't know. 573 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm thrown it out there. Coach, yes, but anyway, my 574 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: point being, I don't see him getting a high profile 575 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: job or team's clamoring and knocking on the door. I mean, 576 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: what has he done in the last I'm trying to 577 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: get his son that job, yes, and I think that 578 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: report it's his little way of saying, Hay, Texans will 579 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: be there. Just give us a couple of weeks. Unless 580 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: you're Daniel Snyder and you do the tricky move of 581 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: making Kyle the interim head coach after you fire his father, 582 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you can do that. I guess not 583 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: no offense to Kyle's out there, but my head coach 584 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: name Kyle. I'm not excited. I'm not getting isn't that 585 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: the coach's name in the Friday Night Lights? That's his 586 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: real name name a Coach Taylor. He would never be 587 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: a Kyle. I mean, I hate to get so bad 588 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: for Kyle's listen because guys, but I don't know head coach. 589 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: I hate to get into hyperbolee, but this is one 590 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: of the lowest moments I've seen for any franchise, this podcast. No, 591 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: it's been. It's one of my favorite Kyle discussions accepted. 592 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: Most of the other Redskins meltdowns under Daniel Snyder have 593 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: taken on an equally terrible No. The coach tried to 594 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: get fired before the game, then the reports came out 595 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: that they knew he was trying to get fired, and 596 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: then it was thirty eight to ten at halftime. That's 597 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty best I see is the anvil hanging over 598 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Cessler's head when he gets in the office at one 599 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow and then the ax drops. Can we just say 600 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: one thing quick about the chiefs uh? And we've talked 601 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: about this before, West brought this up, but Jamal Charles, 602 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: you listen, Manning's getting m V people. What about in 603 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: the m v P sub kingdom. This is sort of 604 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: like the prince or the king of the sub kingdom 605 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: m VP candidates. He's been outstanding. Among non quarterbacks, You'd 606 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: have to say Jamal Charles and Cal and Johnson are 607 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: right there. West Rhodo great pieces past week ranking the 608 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: m v P runner ups. Basically right the whole discussion. 609 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: It's like you read the first that's him. We're out. 610 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: He achieved some credit for scoring a lot of points 611 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: last four weeks. I think they're more interesting than we 612 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: gave them credit for. If they could get the defense together, 613 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna go into Indianapolis and win in the first 614 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, because that matchup is almost certainly 615 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: going to happen. Carson Palmer completed twenty seven of thirty 616 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: two passes, not bad with a supposedly bad elbow, twelve 617 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: of them to Larry Fitzgerald and the Arizona Cardinals ended 618 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: an eight game losing streak against NFC West foes by 619 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: beating St. Louis Rams thirty to ten on Sunday, uh 620 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: A nice win by the Cardinals to keep pace in 621 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: the NFC Conference, trying to catch the Niners that last 622 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: wild card spot. But unfortunately the biggest subplot for me 623 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: was Tyron Matthew likely tear of his a c L 624 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: and his left knee. Um more than likely done for 625 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: the year. Big loss. He was among the top two 626 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: or three candidates for Defensive Rookie of the Year. I 627 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: thought he was playing like a top ten NFL cornerback 628 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: play some safety too, but he's an all around complete player, 629 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: great tackler, big play guy. That's a that's a huge 630 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: loss for them. Um. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see 631 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: how they're able to overcome that. And nearly just a 632 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: bummer because he was such a good story coming out 633 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: of the draft and everything that happened before he got 634 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: to the NFL. But one other thing I took out 635 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: of the game. You know, a lot of teams we 636 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: all cover, we all cover the off season, and we 637 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: all remember writing stories about John Abraham going from city 638 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: to city with probably an exorbitant price tag, and you 639 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: know what, nobody wanted him. He eventually landed with the Cardinals, 640 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: and now he is making all those teams regretted because 641 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: he is on a roll. He had three more sex today. 642 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: He has eleven in the last seven games this guy 643 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: is playing at a high level and he's given them, 644 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: given the Cardinals more than they could have ever asked for. 645 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: Past Lawrence Taylor on the all time cyclist didn't he 646 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: I believe he did. He's in the top ten. Now 647 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: John Abraham in the top ten. Now, people, Yeah, sacks 648 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: don't get you into the Hall of Fame because I 649 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: think Kevin Green is second and he's not in the hall. 650 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: But Abraham's had a great career going back to the 651 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: early days with the Jets, and you know, this has 652 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: been really impressive because I don't think I think that 653 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals would have signed off on seven sacks and they're 654 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: probably dinna get something closer to fifteen. Um. One other 655 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: note before we move on. Larry Fitzgerald, who's my favorite 656 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: player in the NFL to watch twelve catches on twelve 657 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: targets for ninety six yards and a touchdown. Dude is 658 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: the ultimate professional in the league at playing his position. 659 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: He plays it well, he plays the right way, he 660 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: makes plays. He as the best hands in the league. 661 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: I love that guy. I do. We're not arguing so 662 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: numbers today, Fitzgerald edtron Um Sorry, moving on unbothered by 663 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: the freezing weather, Matt Prators in an NFL record with 664 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: a sixty four yard field goal, and Peyton Manning, Yes, 665 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning again through four more touchdowns on Sunday, lifting 666 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: the Broncos to a fift victory over the Tennessee Titans 667 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: West fifty Burger. I guess Peyton winning. Peyton Manning's cold 668 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: weather issues aren't that big. He said after the game 669 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: that whoever came up with that narrative, kids, shove it 670 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: where the sun don't shine. Hopefully he didn't listen to 671 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Friday's podcast. No, I think a minute, We're not worried anymore. 672 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: I would say, Ross Tucker something, this one up pretty well. 673 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: You've never seen an organization from top to bottom really 674 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: try to put an end to a narrative like the 675 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Broncos did today their play calling the way Fox and 676 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: Adam Gays throw offensive coordinator talked about it. Friday and Saturday. 677 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: They threw the most passes of Peyton Mayning's career. He 678 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: wrote the Broncos record for most completions in a game. 679 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: They came out determined to put an end to that narrative. 680 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: It was the most sub freezing pass attempts in a 681 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: game by in NFL history as well, and also the 682 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: the first game by a quarterback with at least four 683 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: touchdowns and zero interceptions in the last fifteen years where 684 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: the game was under twenty degrees. So he emphatically put that. 685 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: I think he put the weather thing, the temperature thing 686 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: to bed. I think the question is can you throw 687 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: in the wind? Dave Damashek and I and then Adam 688 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: Rank got involved as well on Twitter, back and forth 689 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: during the game about the very issue of manning and 690 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: you know whether or not he's a big time player 691 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: the weather thing. This should end it. But it's really 692 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: about the playoffs ultimately, right. But that's the last thing 693 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: for me. Like I said, I think I kind of 694 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: thought all along it's more about the wind than the cold. 695 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: They usually go hand in hand, but in this game 696 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: it was like a four mop hour win based on 697 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: the arm strength issues. They have such a personality as 698 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: a team that the game is close at halftime. I 699 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: mean they were trailing by a point at halftime and 700 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: then they just explode. Happened. You expect it. Now they 701 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: can put thirty points on you in a hurry. You know. 702 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: The Saints set the record for most first downs in 703 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: a in a game. A few weeks back. The Broncos 704 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: had thirty nine today, only one less than the Saints 705 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: in that game, so they would they would have broken 706 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: the record too. And one thing you have to like 707 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: about the Bronco's it seemed like only a week ago 708 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: people thought that they couldn't come out of the a 709 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: f C, that they can't give the Seahawks a game. 710 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: They're mean, Dan Hands, Oh yeah, it's the first Super 711 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: Bowl blow in history. We don't know who the teams are. 712 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to make predictions around these parts because 713 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: that makes you a fool. I guess that's what we 714 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: learned from that discussion. Thanks for reminding me. When I 715 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: was gone in the podcast last week, it was like, oh, 716 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: let's read dance tweet and then ridicule it, and then 717 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: he's not there to defend it. I attempted to defend 718 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: you because I was being you know, lam based it 719 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: as well for a tweet that was mildly not mathematically accurate. 720 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: Why is it any more ludicrous to say that you 721 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: think the super Bowl will be a blow out, then 722 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: it won't be. It's you know, it's what you think. 723 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: It's to predict. You don't know the teams, and there's 724 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: no reason to think the NFC is any better than 725 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: the AC. Really, the point I was gonna make is 726 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: clearly superior off the tracks. The point I was gonna 727 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: make is the Broncos are a team that is actually 728 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: adding weapons. Monty Ball has turned that backfield into a committee. 729 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: They didn't need another weapon, but they have one. Meanwhile, 730 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: their toughest competition in the NFC just lost its second 731 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: best player. Philip Rivers found rookie Keenan Allen for two 732 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: of his three touchdown passes, and the San Diego Chargers 733 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: beat Eli Manning and the Giants fourteen Sunday to keep 734 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: alive their long shot playoff hopes. Uh, I don't think 735 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: we need to spend too much time on this. I 736 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: don't think the Charges are gonna make The plazid Giants 737 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: are obviously dead. One interesting thing is Eli Manning will 738 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: always be connected to the Chargers because of what happened 739 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: on Draft Day in two thousand four. He's now oh 740 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: and three against San Diego since the draft um Philip Rivers. 741 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Probably he's not gonna win too many discussions about, you know, 742 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: who is the better quarterback all time, but because of 743 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: the rings. But he's having another great season, a great 744 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: bounce back season, and at the end of the day, 745 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: he's going to be statistically far greater than Manning. But 746 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: it's those rings that keeps Manning a float. In that discussion, 747 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: this was I was keeping an eye on this probably 748 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: the best game I've seen all season. Huh what, No, 749 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, he's gonna say. I watch it fairly closely now, 750 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: it was. It was dull, and we probably shouldn't spend 751 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: a whole lot of more time on it. The Chargers 752 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: stay alive for one more week. There's one game back. 753 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: They have to go to death. They are interesting. They 754 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: have to win that game in Denver next week. We 755 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: stick a fork Chargers. We did not. They are still 756 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: a lot of interesting. That's high level respect for a 757 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: mediocre team being pulled out of the kitchen shelve. I 758 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: like that. You keep your forks on a shelf. It's 759 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: kind of weird. Listen. I don't even I don't even 760 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: know where the folks are. Phil Dawson kicked the twenty 761 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: two yard field goal with twenty six seconds remaining, and 762 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners held off the Seahawks nineteen 763 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: seventy on Sunday. I guess you could say the biggest 764 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: player of the game Frank gore fifty one yard game 765 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: with just over four minutes to play to set up 766 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: to go ahead field goal that won it Niners stay 767 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: ahead in the NFC playoff. Chase greg this is one 768 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: of the better games of the year. Was it that good? 769 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: It was? It was exactly what you expected out of 770 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: this game in San Francisco. A defensive game. The forty 771 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: Niners were able to move the ball. If it wasn't 772 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: for a Kaepernick red zone interception, they could have maybe 773 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: pulled away a bit in the second half. I just 774 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: thought with the game on the line, it was telling 775 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: that they were able to pull off a six minute 776 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: drive where they basically ran it right at the Seahawks 777 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: and third and seven. The big play of the game. 778 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: Kaepernick rolls out to the left and if it looked 779 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: familiar to everyone, exact same play that they ran with 780 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: Alex Smith to beat the Saints in the NFC playoffs. 781 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: It worked again, just barely. Uh, they got the first 782 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: down and that put away. It was good stuff. Michael Berger, 783 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: who was on the podcast last Weekly Around the League producer, 784 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: I overheard him say, at the end of this game, 785 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: you know they the Niners won, but it wasn't really 786 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: that big a deal because they'll probably get the playoff 787 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: spot and the Seahawks will still get the home field. 788 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: But this is a big deal, if only because the Niners, Uh, 789 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: getting a win against the Seahawks gives them more confidence 790 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: when they go into that building potentially in the playoffs. 791 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: You're coming. You have some good vibes going into that well, 792 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I know. Oh and by the way, the Arizona Cardinals 793 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: are right there. I mean, you can't Niners can't afford 794 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: to lose anything. And the Eagles and the Cowboys potentially 795 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: on Monday Night. I think, you know, this just shows 796 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: if the Seahawks are at a neutral field, Dan Hansas, 797 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's such an undebeatable team if 798 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: they're at a neutral field in the Super Bowl there 799 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: the Niners, it would be a close game. They play 800 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: close games. They play close games because they don't throw 801 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: the pass attempts. For Russell Wilson, they had four drives 802 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: that went or I think with six drives that went 803 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: fifteen yards or less. Four that didn't get any yardage 804 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: at all. It's not necessary a consistent offense. If people 805 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: are looking at the Niners and saying, you know what, incorrect? 806 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: This This team dangerous heading into the NCOFS. If they 807 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, they're the sixth seed. And if the 808 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: sixth seed wins the first round of the playoffs, they're 809 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: going to Seattle. So divisional round, if thet Ers make it, 810 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be in Seattle. He had another solid game. 811 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was great. Uh, they made some 812 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: good throws in the second half. He ran the ball. 813 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean their offense I think has steadily improved the 814 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: last month. If you if you had NFC power rankings, Uh, 815 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: the Seattle's gotta be one. Who where does where do 816 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: the Niners fit in over the Saints? Does that based 817 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: still on a week to week what we're seeing Like 818 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: I said that on Friday's podcast. Yeah, no, I don't 819 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: disagree with you. I think that they consistently improved. Carolina's 820 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: go Panthers. Then Niners and Saints are all in the mix, 821 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: and I don't think you can ignore the Eagles. I 822 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: agree with you, Dan, the NFC is far better and deeper. 823 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: I just don't know if the best team coming out 824 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: of it is so great. The Eagles are at the 825 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: point now where I think you have to think, couldn't 826 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: they go on the road and win some tough games. 827 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: Couldn't they be a team like the forty Niners of 828 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: the scenes. I think they could beat anyone. Wouldn't that 829 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: once they potentially be lined up. We're getting ahead ourselves. 830 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say we wouldn't it be the Eagles 831 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: be going into the super Dome in the second week 832 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 1: of the playoffs potentially? That is there's so many lines. 833 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: Are the best team they've beaten? Right the Eagles? The 834 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: Eagles have not, probably, but they want to see them 835 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: beat somebody good before we say they can go on 836 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: the road and point and kill somebody in the playoffs? 837 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: Haven't we said this for every game? I want to 838 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: see if they can be Arizona. I want to see 839 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: if they can be tra until that was not a 840 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: long time. They sound like a Panthers fan. Look, you 841 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: can't do anything about the schedule, but you also can't 842 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: do anything about us doubting your team. That's a fair point, 843 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: that's true. Touche my NFC East Eagles predicted looking good though, 844 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: like which takes us to Sunday night football in New Orleans. 845 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: Saints bounced back from that embarrassing loss to the Seahawks. 846 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: UH took care of business and and the Panthers were 847 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: finally shut down on offense, and a very important win 848 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: for the Saints to get the confidence back and also 849 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: prove that again in their building they could beat just 850 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: about anybody. Panthers didn't get any pass rush from their 851 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: front four, which left their secondary, which isn't that talented, 852 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: left them vulnerable. I think that's their biggest weakness. I think, 853 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: and you saw the difference in the offenses that the 854 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: Saints are a big play offense and the Panthers are not. 855 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: They're a slow, methodical offense. And people talk about the 856 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: Chiefs aren't built to play from behind. The Panthers are 857 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: a team that are not built to play from behind 858 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: because they don't throw the ball down the field successfully 859 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: at all. I think the great thing about what the 860 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: schedule makers did here is that two weeks from now, 861 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna see very much the same teams in Carolina 862 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Carolina's house, and I think, you know, you look at 863 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: those to the schedule makers. Well, because listen, they've done 864 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: some things. Ellen, something's not so well. One of their 865 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: better skill sets happened right here. But I think Carolina, 866 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: you put them back on their own turf. Singles won one, 867 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: but it might not matter because if the Panthers win 868 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: that game and the Saints win out, the Saints win 869 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: the division. They have the tie break now that they 870 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: won tonight against Carolina. Now, a lot of different things 871 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: that happened. They could both lose and that changes it. 872 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,479 Speaker 1: But the Saints are now in control and it looks 873 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: like they'll they have a great chance to win the 874 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: division even if they lose in Carolina. Yeah, so your 875 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: point from earlier, Greg, I think one of the things 876 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: that we talked about the Panthers, even before Riverboat Ron 877 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: and they got hot, was they didn't really put a 878 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: lot into the offense, putting playma playmakers around Cam Newton. 879 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: I would think, no matter how this season ends up, 880 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a major aspect of what they do 881 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: in the off season, putting some weapons and maybe giving 882 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: their offense a little bit of edge, because you're right, 883 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: it's hard work for the Panthers to go down the 884 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: field and then you see what the Saints have been 885 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: doing all year and what they did and jumping out 886 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: to the lead in this game, it's much easier for 887 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: them to just carve up yardage. Well, think we knew 888 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: that was gonna be a problem, the big plays, lack 889 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: of big plays. When right around Week four I noticed 890 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: that Ted gimm was their best receiver. I'm not saying 891 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: he's better than Steve Smith, but he had been playing 892 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: better at that point, and he has been a bigger, bigger, 893 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: big play threat than Steve Smith this year. Alright, that's 894 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: it for Sunday's Around the League podcast. We will be 895 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. Wednesday is a big day because, Uh, 896 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: the game that we all talked about ended in controversy 897 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: last time we played. There's only one way to end 898 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: that contro controversy once and for all. West versed Sham 899 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: Sham for all the marbles. It's like Rocky vers Apollo 900 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: in Rocky Too, where both men earned each other's respect. 901 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: Controversial ending, and now we truly find out who the 902 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: champion is. Wes, how do you feel? I feel good? 903 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: I feel confident. Well, I never know what kind of 904 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: trick questions you're gonna come up with. I mean, if 905 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: some real corporate entity stadium questions. I was impressed, and 906 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: Mark gave credit to Gillette for naming that stadium. I 907 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: could not have told you what the name of that 908 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: stadium was. It's where the Patriots split. So came came 909 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: of impressed. Is the word k rich. We have Sham 910 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: lined up, the Sham aware that the biggest moment of 911 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: his life is three days from now. Sham is aware, 912 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: he's been aware, he's been prepping for it too. I'm 913 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: not sure you can prep for it. Maybe that's the 914 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: issue here. Books with a liner like attitude. Here, just 915 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: I'll just show up on Sundays throwing me the ball. 916 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: It'll all work out. Just look at usc guys. I've 917 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: actually discussed this with a certain woman in my life. 918 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: I told her I was going to study for it 919 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: the last time we had to toaster, and she told 920 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: me that there's there's no no you're studying, you can't. 921 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the old boxing line. I think 922 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: it was from Larry Holmes, but he said it's hard 923 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: to get out of bed to do five am roadwork 924 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: when you're sleeping in silk pajamas. That might be us 925 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: that's a good line. That's a very good line. I 926 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: hope I credited to the right retired boxer. Um. All right, 927 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: so that's a that's on tap. And well, if West 928 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: gets by, Sean will have another challenger. Very exciting, Greg, 929 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: not excited about it, not at all, Not at all. 930 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: I was hoping Sean would end this silliness last time around. 931 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: They came up with some bogus reason why we had 932 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: to do it again. Dan can't even score his own 933 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: question just basking in the joy of life while we're here, Gregg, 934 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: I am not going to come into the office tomorrow. 935 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna work on questions all day from my 936 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: home in West's juzzy. That's all right, all right, we 937 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. Yes, until Wednesday. This is 938 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: Dan hands a signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, 939 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: the Boss, Cambridge behind the glass. Alex Gelhar's back there, 940 00:47:45,440 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: writer for NFL dot Com until Wednesday of that Here