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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to chat about, obviously, with what's

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Speaker 2: going on at the border and specifically something that you

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Speaker 2: have been calling for, and that is the impeachment of

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Speaker 2: my Orcus that now looks like it could become a

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Speaker 2: big reality on the House side.

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Speaker 1: We're going to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: But before we deal with that, I do want to

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Speaker 2: get your initial reaction because this has been such a

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Speaker 2: big story with the list and the names and the

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Speaker 2: Epstein documents. A lot of it has come out. We're

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Speaker 2: still waiting for more things to come out. The media

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Speaker 2: has played this as oh, nothing to see here, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton's name was in there, Yes, Donald Trump's name

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Speaker 2: of names. Give me your initial reaction to what you

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Speaker 2: so far have seen and what you've heard and.

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Speaker 1: What you think.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad it's finally coming out. It's taken too

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Speaker 3: damn long. All of this needs to be public. At

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Speaker 3: this point, we've had roughly forty documents released by the

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Speaker 3: Federal District Court. There are around two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: documents in total the district Court has that the court

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Speaker 3: is indicated they're going to release, so there'll be more

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Speaker 3: information that comes out. But look, what is of real

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Speaker 3: public interest is is who participated with Jeffrey Epstein in

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Speaker 3: sex crimes and an abusing young girls, underage girls, and

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Speaker 3: if they participated, if they're guilty of those crimes, they

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Speaker 3: should be prosecuted. We should have the client list, We

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Speaker 3: should have the list of the people who went to

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Speaker 3: his island where he committed these crimes, and committed these

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Speaker 3: crimes according to the testimony over an extended period of time.

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Speaker 3: And the media has expressed an amazing lack of curiosity

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Speaker 3: on this, and I think the reason is that Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: Epstein piled around with Democrats. One of the interesting things

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Speaker 3: in the document, so you know, the media desperately wants

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Speaker 3: to blame Epstein on Trump, but there's one passing reference

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Speaker 3: lands in Atlantic City, says, oh, we should call Trump.

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Speaker 3: And so that's the lone reference you want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: The most damning thing. The most damning thing is the

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Speaker 3: quote from a twenty sixteen deposition about Bill Clinton where

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Speaker 3: the quote was quote he said one time that Clinton

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Speaker 3: likes them young, referring to girls. Now, I gotta say, Ben,

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Speaker 3: can you imagine if the document said the exact same thing,

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Speaker 3: but if it just replaced the word Clinton with Trump.

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Speaker 3: If there were a document here that said Trump likes

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Speaker 3: some young the media would go nuts. The New York

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Speaker 3: Times would have a banner headline in forty two point

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Speaker 3: fought Trump likes him young. But of course it didn't

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Speaker 3: say that. It said Bill Clinton likes young girls. And

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Speaker 3: suddenly it's crickets the media. What no, nothing to see here,

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Speaker 3: nothing at all.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting that you mentioned that because I was

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Speaker 2: talking with my producer in our producer this show, Diaz.

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Speaker 2: This morning we went to see an in dot com

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Speaker 2: live on My morning show, and some of the headlines

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Speaker 2: that they had above the article that even dealt with

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Speaker 2: Epstein included TJ Fridays, the restaurant abruptly closes thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Restaurant see the whole list.

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Speaker 2: Another one, two straight Dogs caused more than three hundred

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Speaker 2: punctual airport is in the US. Kelly Clarkson says, walking

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Speaker 2: in her new home of New York City helped her

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Speaker 1: These were the stories.

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Speaker 2: That they had above and countless others before you actually

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Speaker 2: got to the Epstein story that also mentioned Bill Clinton

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Speaker 2: likes them young, referring.

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Speaker 1: To young girls. That is your media for you in

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Speaker 1: America right now.

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Speaker 3: And also the document show that Bill Clinton flew repeatedly

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Speaker 3: we also know, and this is something we've discussed at

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Speaker 3: length on Verdict before, we know that Dick Durbin and

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Speaker 3: Senate Democrats are going to extraordinary lengths to prevent a

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Speaker 3: So the Senate Democrats don't want the public to know

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Speaker 3: desperately don't want people to know. Look, as we've talked about,

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Speaker 3: New York. It's bizarre, but but that's that's what he

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Speaker 2: And there was also another story that came out that

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Speaker 2: that we're talking about, apparently Bill Clinton going into Vanity

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Speaker 2: Fair and threatening them not to write the sex trafficking

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Speaker 2: articles about his good friend Jeffrey Epstein. According to an

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Speaker 2: email from Virginia Giffra and Centner, if you had that

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Speaker 2: same shocking emails come out tonight and it was Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump walked into Vandy Fair and threatened them not to

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Speaker 2: write a sex trafficking article about his good friend, quote

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Speaker 2: unquote Jeffrey Epstein, and you had this in emails, this

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Speaker 2: would also be wall to wall coverage. Yet tonight, as

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Speaker 2: you and I are taping this, still crickets on that

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's a complete obvious double standard and the corporate

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Speaker 3: media is thorough corrupt. They are part of the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 3: they share the same left wing agenda, and they behave

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Speaker 3: in unison to protect each other.

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Speaker 2: Last question on this I want to ask you, and

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Speaker 2: that is I still am angered by the aspect that

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Speaker 2: there's really been virtually no justice here. There has been, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Maxwell who's in prison. Yes, Jeffrey Epstein was in prison.

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Speaker 2: But if you go back to his first conviction, that

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Speaker 2: was a slap on the wrist down in Florida, I

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Speaker 2: think it was back in sixteen. One of the things

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Speaker 2: you notice here is the federal government has not gone

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Speaker 2: after any of those that were involved in this, this

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Speaker 2: horrific abuse of young girls, underage girls, but they did

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Speaker 2: seem to go out of their way to actually protect

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Speaker 1: How concerning is that to you?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think it's deeply concerning in it anyone involved

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Speaker 3: be prosecuted. And and you're right, there's a complete lack

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Speaker 3: to go after the clients, to go after the other

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Speaker 3: There's a complete lack of interest in the media on

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Speaker 3: reporting on it. They are protecting the powerful. And I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you another component of this. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: brothels that were in Boston and outside of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: In Virginia, that it appears there's evidence that they were

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Speaker 3: in fact honeypot schemes potentially funded by a foreign government

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Speaker 3: that included prominent politicians who were clients of these houses

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Speaker 3: of prostitution and then that was used to blackmail them.

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Speaker 3: And this is a story that suggests that this was

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Speaker 3: being funded by a foreign government, and it's not clear who,

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Speaker 1: Who it was.

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Speaker 3: But it also raises the question with Jeffrey Epstein about

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Speaker 3: with powerful people and politicians, people like Bill Clinton, what

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Speaker 3: influence did Jeffrey Epstein have over them? And was any

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Speaker 3: of this material used for blackmail? And given the story

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Speaker 2: I want to move also to the big story and

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Speaker 2: for quite some time, the impeachment of my Orcis, and

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Speaker 2: There have been many talking heads. As I was flying

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Speaker 2: like political vengeance, like, well, he deserves to be impeached

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't do his job. And I think what

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Speaker 2: should be political vengeance. That's not how what this should

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Speaker 2: be about. You should never impeach people for political vengeance.

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Speaker 2: It should be because of dereliction of their duty and

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Speaker 2: their job. So let's go through why you believe personally

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Speaker 2: that my Orcists should be impeached for not doing his job.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's be clear what the constitutional standard for impeachment is.

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Speaker 3: The Constitution lays out that impeachment lies for bribery, treason,

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Speaker 3: or other high crimes and misdemeanors. So you know, in

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Speaker 3: your question you said that Mayorcis should be impeached for

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Speaker 3: dereliction of duty. Actually, dereliction of duty alone is not

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Speaker 3: enough for impeachment. And there was a debate among the

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Speaker 3: Framers when they were writing the Constitution, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: someone for maladministration. They wanted it to be a higher

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Speaker 3: what mayorcus has done is far greater than negligence, far

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Speaker 3: greater than malad administration. It's not just that Alexandro Majorcis

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Speaker 2: You know, what's even more shocking is their excuses for

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Speaker 1: Take a listen on from MSNBC.

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Speaker 4: As you know, mister Secretary Border Patrol, in the month

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Speaker 1: Climate change. So now that's why garbage.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I heard it and I almost laughed, like

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Speaker 3: Look Ben, that just pisces me off, because that man

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Speaker 3: Give it an example. Fiscal year twenty twenty three, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty seven, two hundred and seventy five unaccompanied miners,

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Speaker 1: Honestly, no clue because the numbers are so insane.

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Speaker 2: You know, Speaker Johnson took a delegation of congressmen down

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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this. It was amazing.

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Speaker 5: The JP delegation went down to speak to border patrol

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Speaker 5: you can't make this up. You can see migrants entering

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Speaker 6: Government abbotts. Razor wire does not prevent. It does not

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Speaker 6: If anything, it puts at risk. It puts the lives

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Speaker 5: Except we just saw that it did prevent. She also

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Speaker 6: Instead of providing the needed resources for more border security

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Speaker 1: So that's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you hear the White House is Talking Points Center,

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Speaker 1: It's not a publicity stunt.

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Speaker 2: If you don't go to the border and you don't

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Speaker 3: Look what Karine Jean Pierre says, she doesn't give a

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Speaker 3: And and you know, Joe Biden was asked this week

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Speaker 3: yet that they wouldn't tell us anything when we asked

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Speaker 3: any questions about who these to those were. But the

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Speaker 3: cell phone is what makes it instantaneous, because when people

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Speaker 3: get here and get released, they immediately text or call

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Speaker 3: their friends and their families back home and they say, hey,

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Speaker 3: if you come, you get to stay. If on not,

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Speaker 3: the other hand, if they've gone through a horrendous journey

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Speaker 3: and they've been horribly abused, and they get here and

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Speaker 3: they get deported, they get put on a plane and

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Speaker 3: sent back right where they started again, they text their

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Speaker 3: friends and families and they say, don't come. They won't

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Speaker 3: let you in. And so the reason those illegal immigrants

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Speaker 3: are calling Ayuda, calling for help is because they believe,

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Speaker 3: and they believe quite rightly that under Joe Biden, the

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Speaker 3: Biden administration views its job as helping illegal immigrants come

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Speaker 3: into this country and invade this country. We're now upwards

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Speaker 3: of ten million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden. It is unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: And the other part I think that's also so disingenuous

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Speaker 2: from this White House is the fact that they try

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Speaker 2: to act. As you mentioned, it's about the money, but

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Speaker 2: the executive actions that the president could take instantly could

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Speaker 2: change so many of the policies that are allowing for

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Speaker 2: this crisis, which was created by designed by the Biden administration,

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Speaker 2: and that wouldn't even take Congress. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: things that Donald Trump did so brilliantly when he was

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Speaker 2: in office. You could just go back to his same

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Speaker 2: policies and you could do it literally with the swipe

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Speaker 2: of a pen.

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Speaker 3: Three decisions that Joe Biden could implement tomorrow number one,

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Speaker 3: resume building the wall, number two, and catch and release

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Speaker 3: number three, reinstate to remain in Mexico agreement. All of

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Speaker 3: those he did the opposite his first week at office.

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Speaker 3: That's what caused this border crisis. Joe Biden could solve

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Speaker 3: it at an instant. He does not want to, and

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Speaker 3: he's going to do I believe everything he can to

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Speaker 3: prevent it. It's why impeaching mayorca should have been impeached

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Speaker 3: over two years ago. I had been calling for it

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Speaker 3: for virtually the entirety of his tenure, because it has

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Speaker 3: been we have never seen a Cabinet member so utterly

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Speaker 3: defy federal law the way may Orchis has done.

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Speaker 2: I want to move to something else that is obviously

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Speaker 2: important and significant. We've talked about it, and it's a

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Speaker 2: big win on the border to secure the enactment of

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Speaker 2: a streamline permitting process for new and expanded bridges across

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Speaker 2: the Rio Grande in Brownsville, Laredo, and Eagle Pass, Texas.

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Speaker 2: It is something that you were a part of and

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Speaker 2: led on. It's now actually become law. You were down

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Speaker 2: on Laredo, and I want to play for people part

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Speaker 2: of what you had to say at this very very

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Speaker 2: big moment.

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Speaker 7: We're here today to celebrate bipartisan legislation that was signed

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Speaker 7: into law in December of last year that will expedite

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Speaker 7: building new bridges and expanding bridges between Texas and Mexico.

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Speaker 7: We're here at the World Trade Bridge, the largest land

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Speaker 7: port in the United States. Every year, Texas and Mexico

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Speaker 7: have roughly eight hundred billion in trade and commerce that

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Speaker 7: comes across this border. That's jobs in Texas, that's jobs

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Speaker 7: in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: That's the lifeblood of South Texas.

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Speaker 2: This is obviously significant, not just from the standpoint of

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Speaker 2: security that you talked about and orderly commerce coming across

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Speaker 2: the border in a safer manner, but it's also a

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Speaker 2: really big deal from the fact that, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: it was bipartisan talk about how significant this is going

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Speaker 2: to be for this country and for Texas well.

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Speaker 3: The audio you just played was from a press conference

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Speaker 3: that I did in Laredo yesterday morning, and it was

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Speaker 3: right at the World Trade Bridge, right on the southern border.

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Speaker 3: And I did that alongside Henry Quayar, the Democrat congressman

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Speaker 3: who represents Laredo, and Henry and I worked ten in

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Speaker 3: hand in this and it was a huge victory. The

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Speaker 3: Texas Business Association that was down there with us and

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Speaker 3: there was a large group of people celebrating this legislative

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Speaker 3: victory that we had just two weeks ago described the

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Speaker 3: legislation that I introduced and passed as the biggest positive

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Speaker 3: step for jobs and commerce in Texas since the US

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Speaker 3: Mexico Canada agreement was negotiated. It is literally billions of

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Speaker 3: dollars of additional trade in commerce and tens of thousands

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Speaker 3: of jobs and real quickly what happened. So, there are

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Speaker 3: four bridge projects that have been proposed in South Texas,

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Speaker 3: two in Laredo, one in Brownsville. Want an will pass,

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Speaker 3: and the Biden administration had put bureaucratic barriers. They were

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Speaker 3: delaying every one of these bridge projects. The World Trade

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Speaker 3: Bridge that I was at yesterday morning that bridge right

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Speaker 3: now is eight lanes. They have proposed to expand it

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Speaker 3: to eighteen lanes to more than double the size of it,

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Speaker 3: which enables commerce to move much more rapidly. That benefits farmers,

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Speaker 3: That benefits ranchers, That benefits manufacturers, That benefits small businesses.

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Speaker 3: That benefits consumers by lowering prices at the grocery store.

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Speaker 3: It also benefits national security by making it easier to

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Speaker 3: bring manufacturing back from China, either back to the United

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Speaker 3: States or near shoring it bringing it back to Mexico,

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Speaker 3: where we could have trade and commerce with Mexico rather

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Speaker 3: than China. So all of those are good outcomes. And

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Speaker 3: what happened. So in order to build a bridge, ordinarily,

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Speaker 3: you have to do what is called Federal Environmental NEPA review,

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Speaker 3: go through a process of reviewing the environmental impact of

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Speaker 3: a bridge. That's true for any bridge. If you're building

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Speaker 3: a bridge across an international border, there's an additional legal requirement.

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Speaker 3: You need a permit from the President of the United States. Now,

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Speaker 3: the way this used to be done is the President

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Speaker 3: would grant that permit contingent on the completion of the

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Speaker 3: NEPA review. And what that did is accelerated the process,

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Speaker 3: enabled it to move through quickly. When Joe Biden became president,

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Speaker 3: he announced they were reversing that policy and Biden was

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Speaker 3: going to grant zero presidential permits for cross border bridges

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Speaker 3: unless and until the NIPA environmental review was fully completed.

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Speaker 3: The effect of that was to add two, three, four

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Speaker 3: five years to these bridge projects, to delay them all.

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Speaker 3: It also made it hard for them to get funding

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Speaker 3: because the banks were reluctant to commit capital until the

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Speaker 3: presidential permit had been granted. So there was a chicken

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Speaker 3: and egg problem, and the Biden administration dug in. And

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Speaker 3: so what I did is is Number One, unified the

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Speaker 3: congressional delegation in South Texas. And so I brought together

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Speaker 3: a coalition of myself and John Cornon, the other Texas Senator,

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Speaker 3: along with Henry Quayar, a Democrat, Monica Delacruz, a Republican,

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Speaker 3: Vicente Gonzalez, a Democrat, and Tony Gonzales, a Republican, all

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Speaker 3: of the South Texas Congressional delegation. We jointly pressed the

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Speaker 3: Biden State Department reversed this idiotic policy. This is hurting

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Speaker 3: Texas and hurting America. The Biden administration dug in. They

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Speaker 3: refused to change, and so I authored legislation mandating that

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Speaker 3: they expedite the process, got bipartisan support in the Senate,

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Speaker 3: passed it out of the set, and then passed it

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Speaker 3: out of the House, and Joe Biden signed it into

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Speaker 3: law on December twenty second. It was actually my birthday

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Speaker 3: that he signed the law, and so it was a

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Speaker 3: pretty great birthday gift because it's a huge victory for

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Speaker 3: jobs in the state of Texas, and it's an example

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Speaker 3: of you know, I got to say, it's also an

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Speaker 3: example of the bizarre hypocrisy. I mean, let me ask

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Speaker 3: you seriously, Ben, explain to me the mind of a

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Speaker 3: whack job liberal that you want totally open borders and

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Speaker 3: ten million people invading this country illegally, including human traffickers

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Speaker 3: and drug traffickers on the one hand, but on the

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Speaker 3: other hand, you want to put bureaucratic roadblocks in the

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Speaker 3: way of legal trade and commerce from farmers and businesses

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Speaker 3: while you're allowing illegal immigrants to flow with no restraint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes some sense, especially when every year Texas

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Speaker 2: and Mexico, as you mentioned, roughly eight hundred billion in

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Speaker 2: trade and commerce that come across this border, and this

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Speaker 2: does it in a more early fashion, but also with

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Speaker 2: the issue of national security involved in it. Keeping it

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Speaker 2: orly with safety and security, especially with all the drug trafficking,

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Speaker 2: FETNO and everything else coming across the border, it makes

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Speaker 2: no sense.

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Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right, and we ended up building the

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Speaker 3: bipartisan coalition to pass this into law. And so the

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Speaker 3: way the law works is December twenty second is when

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden signed it into law. On that date, which

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Speaker 3: was the date he signed it, the legislation starts a

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Speaker 3: shot clock of sixty days, and the State Department has

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Speaker 3: a sixty day time limit to submit its recommendations to

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Speaker 3: the White House as to whether he should grant the

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Speaker 3: permit for these four bridges. After that sixty day period,

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Speaker 3: a second shot clock starts, and the President has sixty

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Speaker 3: days to make it a termination on the permit. If

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Speaker 3: the President does nothing after that second sixty days, the

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Speaker 3: permit is deemed automatically granted by operation of law. What

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Speaker 3: that means is because it was signed on December twenty second,

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Speaker 3: that by April twentieth we will have these presidential permits

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Speaker 3: which will expedite these bridges going forward. That is an

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Speaker 3: enormous victory despite the Biden administration putting roadblocks in the

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Speaker 3: way every step of the way.

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Speaker 2: Well congratulations, and like you said, it's awesome that it

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Speaker 2: was done in such a bipartisan manner and it's great

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Speaker 2: for commerce, great for the country, great for Texans. This

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Speaker 2: is a huge win, especially when you're having to deal

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Speaker 2: with an administration like the Biden administration. So congratulations on

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Speaker 2: that job.

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Speaker 1: Well done.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad the President didn't know it was your birthday

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Speaker 2: to day that he signed that, because they probably would

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Speaker 2: have delayed it, but they would have said we're not

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Speaker 2: giving crews that birthday gift. So well done on there.

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