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Speaker 1: We are back here for episode number thirty six of

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Speaker 1: draftneck Mark here with James Ciano. Jeter had no range

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Speaker 1: talking about the previous New York Mets series against the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves, as well as the MLB trade deadline and

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Speaker 1: The podcast has been growing. We had our best week ever.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about today. The games

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Speaker 1: what are we feeling here? Mets trade deadline, Let's just

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Speaker 1: talk about the real quick off the rip. How are

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Speaker 1: we feeling right now, because as of recording, we haven't

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Speaker 2: Right It's seven pm on Thursday night, so by the

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Speaker 2: in baseball would like. And as you know, Mark, I'm

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Speaker 2: a guy who usually relate to things as is. I

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Speaker 2: don't really stress when I have like three hours left,

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Speaker 1: The Mets still don't have any players, which if you

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Speaker 1: a little plug for it. Me and James. We'll be

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Speaker 1: Mets moves because we're gonna make moves I'm confident we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make moves. Steve Cohen apparently has been pressuring the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting story in of itself, because historically

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Speaker 1: I don't think the difference between like Jalen Palmer and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Braves still do hit. And as we know,

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Speaker 1: The pinch hitting Bran Drury's been smoking hot. Big double

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the first time that the Mets did

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Speaker 2: thet Castro two winnings thing and it worked. Something we've

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Speaker 1: This time it works. Yeah. Enough of Game one, just

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Speaker 1: It's stunk because we lost him. It was a winnable game,

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Speaker 1: He is ready to drink a beer whatever. No, he's

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Speaker 2: to be awful. We'll get to a Keen Bostic's major

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Speaker 1: That's the player of Jeff McNeil, like we were waiting

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Speaker 1: And to put it simply, we're not gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: And I feel like this is an extremely byer Like

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Speaker 1: And I think the Mets are being smart. Now, granted

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Speaker 1: You could just tell we're excited to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: That's like the hot topic, right buzzin. So let's move

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Speaker 1: to game four. Game four Tyler and McGill. The man.

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Speaker 1: He's big dick energy. He is He is so freaking

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Speaker 2: Tyler McGill, I think, has cemented himself as a major leaguer.

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Speaker 2: Someup between Robert Gazelm and Seth Lugo and Jacob deGrom

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Speaker 2: July twenty ninth, twenty twenty one, Tyler McGill has basically.

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Speaker 1: Saved the Mets season. He really has.

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Speaker 2: Not to be too hyperbolic or like too exaggerate, but

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Speaker 1: If we don't have Tyler McGill pitching every five days,

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Speaker 1: this team is not in first place. That's a guaranteed fact.

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Speaker 1: Because every time in over five hundred Yeah, because every

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Speaker 1: He attack batters, He does everything you want from a

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Speaker 1: It's the complete opposite of that. Right now.

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Speaker 2: This pitch is such a fucking weapon. It's like astounding.

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Speaker 2: He makes hitters look foolish with this pitch over and

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Speaker 1: Again, it has wholly replaced the slider has his off

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Speaker 1: But you've been nervous the last two times and McGill

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Speaker 1: You are the Jakes. Keep being nervous about McGill because

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Speaker 2: taiwant today though, but that we'll get to that in

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Speaker 2: five minutes. Yeah, just this guy, Like damn. The only

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Speaker 2: issue I have with this McGill start is I would

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Speaker 2: not have left him out for the sixth inning. I

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Speaker 2: would not have let the Braves seen him a third

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Speaker 2: time again. Like you said, he was throwing basically sixty

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Speaker 2: percent fast balls. The fastball performed better than it has

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Speaker 2: in any of his recent starts. That fourteen called strikes

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Speaker 2: plus whiffs something I've talked about recently.

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Speaker 1: That was twenty nine percent. That's a really good number.

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Speaker 2: But you kind of just felt like, even though he

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Speaker 2: was never in trouble or never pitching poorly that the

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Speaker 2: more they were going to see him, someone was going

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Speaker 2: to get to him. And you know, luckily for us,

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Speaker 2: they didn't really get to him. He gave up a

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Speaker 2: couple of runs and his RA at one point was

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Speaker 2: below two, which is pretty crazy to say for Tyler McGill,

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Speaker 2: who was a guy who started the year in what

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Speaker 2: double a.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he've never thrown a pitch above single line. That's

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Speaker 1: so crazy. What an absolute gift we got with Tyler

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Speaker 1: McGill continues to be a really good pitcher. I love

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Speaker 1: the dude, be big dick energy. The one thing we

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Speaker 1: will say is that he did give up the home

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Speaker 1: run to Austin Riley, which you mentioned you didn't want

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Speaker 1: him to pitch a six citing year. I think the

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Speaker 1: Mets were trying to be aggressive, trying to save the

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Speaker 1: bullpen after a bullpen day and Jared aikoff the box.

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Speaker 1: But debauchery or whatever that word is that I'm trying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the bacle, I think is what I was really looking for.

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Speaker 1: Austin Riley, Man, holy shit, does that guy kill the Mets.

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Speaker 1: He's looking like labor Toris against the Orioles. I mean,

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Speaker 1: his numbers. He's having a good year overall, but the

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Speaker 1: Mets are helping him out a ton. It's chip O'Riley

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Speaker 1: right now. There's really nothing to do about it. Austin Burrell, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's killing us. He has firmly cemented himself as a

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Speaker 1: Met killer because seemingly every time he steps up to

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Speaker 1: the plate, he makes something happen.

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Speaker 2: I listened to this game on the radio and Howie

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Speaker 2: was really groaning about that. He was like, this is

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Speaker 2: the new one. I knew there was gonna be one.

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Speaker 2: Someone's gonna pop up. They couldn't couldn't go for too long,

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Speaker 2: and it's now Austin Riley. Well.

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Speaker 1: The crazy thing about him too is he's a god

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Speaker 1: awful third baseman, horrendous defensively, but against the Mets he

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Speaker 1: makes crazy plays too. He plays at a level that

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Speaker 1: we've never seen Austin Riley play at before. When he

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Speaker 1: plays the Mets, he step in.

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Speaker 2: The double heather. He made a crazy diving play in

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Speaker 2: Game one. I totally forgot about that going down the line.

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Speaker 2: I forgot who hit it. I than vr I'll remember.

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Speaker 2: But Austin Riley new Mets killer. If you guys need

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Speaker 2: someone to hate, it's Austin Riley. Yes, he is public

483
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Speaker 2: Academy number one right now on the braves. He is

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Speaker 2: just killing us the end of the group.

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Speaker 1: Is he a rat fuck? Yeah, he's a rat fuck.

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Speaker 1: He's a rat fuck. He joins the group for sure,

487
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Speaker 1: made it one one. At the moment May came in

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Speaker 1: after McGill, he was great. Yep, Loop some trouble, but

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Speaker 1: first time he looked more than in a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but again still got out of it. Yeah, Familia, save

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Speaker 1: the friggin day. Yeah he is. When when that sinker's moving,

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Speaker 1: when that sinker's on, he's untouchable. It's sinking. Sinker is

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Speaker 1: typically not a pitch that you like to see pictures

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Speaker 1: throw nowadays, just because of how swings work and everything.

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Speaker 1: It's not a pitch that necessarily plays well like he

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Speaker 1: used to. But Familia sinker moves unlike any sinker in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. It's essentially a splitter that's coming like

498
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Speaker 1: ninety seven miles an hour. It drops so much. A

499
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Speaker 1: few sinkers move like his. I'm not gonna put him

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Speaker 1: on this grand pedestal, like, oh I will, I will

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Speaker 1: put Familia Blake Tranion, Okay, Blake trying fine, all right,

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Speaker 1: he's good.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: The witcher is fine. Yeah, it's fine, good one. But

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Speaker 1: Familia sinker on. When it's on on any given day,

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Speaker 1: it's unhittable. Yes, and we saw that in this game

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Speaker 1: against the Braves.

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Speaker 2: All of these guys, all they do was set up

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Speaker 2: Mike King Brandon Drury to continue his torrid July, his

510
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Speaker 2: mammoth stretch, the lefty master, the pinch Hither extraordinaiy.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead home run six for six since his call up,

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Speaker 1: and this is what pushed it to that six for six,

513
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Speaker 1: an absolute shot. He loves to hit a high, towering

514
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Speaker 1: home run to left field. He has got that left

515
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Speaker 1: field fence on lockdown. He knows exactly how far he

516
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Speaker 1: needs to hit it, and he crushed it. He absolutely

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Speaker 1: crushed it. Bench Mop, stand the fuck up, baby, bench Mob.

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Speaker 1: Buy the bench Bob shirt. Check our Twitter. We'll tweet

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Speaker 1: it out. Bench Bob t shirt.

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Speaker 2: Buy it to stick with the bench Mob. The Mets

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Speaker 2: pinch Hithers this year hitting shockingly well. They're hitting two

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Speaker 2: to seventy as a team. That's almost one hundred points

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Speaker 2: more than league average.

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Speaker 1: Pinch Hithers.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, disgusting, that's nuts. Three seventy in the month

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Speaker 2: of July with four home runs. The Mets have four

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Speaker 2: pinch hit home runs in July.

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Speaker 1: That's so crazy. He makes any sense. Well, between Parraza

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Speaker 1: and Drury and McNeil would get some pitchhited opportunities, and Gillorme,

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Speaker 1: I mean we will. This is something we talked about

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. The Mets depth this

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Speaker 1: year is really good because now when we're going to

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Speaker 1: then we're not pulling out Matt Reynolds. We're not pulling

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Speaker 1: out Eric Campbell, Matt dan Decker. We have legitimate Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball players, and I feel like this pinch hating

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Speaker 1: stat shows it better than any sat out there right

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Speaker 1: now for us about our depth. Absolutely, and then ds Yes, Edwin,

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Speaker 1: ed Win, this was bad, DZ. He was good in

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Speaker 1: Game two. Yeah, lights out. Now game four it's a

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Speaker 1: different story.

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Speaker 2: You can kind of feel whatever Edwin you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: with literally the first pitch at the inning.

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Speaker 1: If if he misses, if he throws the ball first pitch,

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Speaker 1: you go yikes.

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Speaker 2: Especial when he throws one of the other batters box

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Speaker 2: like he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah against what Abraham al Monte.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel great. I think a Monte was up second,

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Speaker 2: was up first. I think he was up first because

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Speaker 2: Monte lays a double and we immediately all sat back

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Speaker 2: in our chairs and are.

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Speaker 1: Like, shit, here it is here. It is like Edwin

553
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Speaker 1: again has been good this year in safe situations. We

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Speaker 1: know he's been a little rough recently against the bad teams,

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Speaker 1: which is so weird.

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Speaker 2: Then he had two really great saves against the good teams.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So he's kind of like the Mets in that

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Speaker 1: place to this compent, it seems like. But it was

559
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Speaker 1: not off to an easy start. And then Michael Canfordo

560
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Speaker 1: was like, hold on, guys, if I'm not gonna hit,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna at least make an impact somehow, And even

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Speaker 1: Keith applauded him. He goes, even though this guy's not

563
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Speaker 1: making an impact with the bat, you have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do something every single day you step out on

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Speaker 1: the field, and Canfordo did with that absolutely beautiful throw.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Canon, if that throw is three feet

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Speaker 2: to the left or three feet to the right, that

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Speaker 2: tag is not down, that's a tie ball game.

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Speaker 1: We could be having a very different podcast right now.

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Speaker 1: Tie ball game. For sure. It gave me flashbacks to

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Speaker 1: last year when Lugo and Philadelphia we had Wilson Ramos

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Speaker 1: who can hold on to the ball. Thank god, we

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Speaker 1: have James McCann while he's been disappointed this year to

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Speaker 1: say the least, I think people expected more. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they should have. Yeah, I think actually he's

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Speaker 1: performing just right to expectation, like seven hundred ops. I

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Speaker 1: think he has for the year right now. With and

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Speaker 1: defensively like that. He made a nice play there too.

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Speaker 1: He caught the ball, made the good tag, made sure

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Speaker 1: he This is a big thing catchers don't do. They

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Speaker 1: don't tag the feet. He went right for the foot.

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Speaker 1: He got him nice and easy. Also, all time bat

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Speaker 1: slide by Abraham I'm on deck slide. If he would

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Speaker 1: have hooked it, he was safe by a mind yep,

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Speaker 1: terrible slide. Mccammade. The tag caught the ball, save the

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Speaker 1: inning completely. Also, what were the Braves doing running there

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Speaker 1: with one out? I see the idea there, they're the

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Speaker 1: bottom they're batting with there.

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Speaker 2: I think Pablo Sandoval was on deck who he has

590
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Speaker 2: won like probably two or three hits in April.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when he hit those home runs and

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Speaker 1: hasn't done anything since as you can't count on much

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Speaker 1: from him there. And Rob Washington, that's that's a riverboat guy.

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Speaker 1: He well, we've talked about it. This is the Braves,

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Speaker 1: the Braves management group, what is it called the coaches,

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Speaker 1: that's what their words are, the coaches, the coaches. These

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Speaker 1: are some guys who want to hang out with They've

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Speaker 1: got some stories.

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Speaker 2: Prob Washington would be a great hang snicker, great hang.

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Speaker 2: Snicker's been in the Braves organization for what like fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Walt Weiss Walt Weis weisfer I loved to drink light

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Speaker 2: beer with these guys.

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Speaker 1: Ron Washington participated in the Booger Sugar, so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he's had some fun.

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Speaker 2: And just to defend Round Washington for a second, along

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Speaker 2: with being Pablo Sandoval being on deck, if that's not

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Speaker 2: a perfect throw on the money, literally he threw it

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Speaker 2: on Abraham A Monte's foot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's your safe. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, when you're a team like the Braves who's kind

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Speaker 2: of reeling, you've lost your best player for the season,

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Speaker 2: you're a little bit falling out of contention, you kind

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Speaker 2: of gotta.

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Speaker 1: Take some shots. Yeah, because honestly, if they did win

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Speaker 1: that game. This series could have looked a lot different.

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Speaker 1: So in retrospect, I still don't know why he sent them.

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Speaker 1: I think, like baseball, the traditional sense, you would have said,

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Speaker 1: you hold him there won out. Flyball wins a game. Vibes,

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Speaker 1: send them, but vibes. I've even called out Desarcina for

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Speaker 1: not being as aggressive, so I guess to play devil's

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Speaker 1: advocate here. I'm being a little hypocritical. But let's win

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Speaker 1: this game. We got out of it, big win, good

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Speaker 1: stuff that's needed. Two wins from this series.

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Speaker 2: It's actually word for word what we said on Sunday. Yes,

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Speaker 2: gotta find two. If you find three, it's a big win.

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Speaker 2: Find two and you'll heart yourself.

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Speaker 1: Only lost the game to the Braves this series because

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Speaker 1: Game five was not a good one. No, this game

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Speaker 1: started at noon and it felt like a started at noon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Mets felt a little asleep. Taiwan while he started

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Speaker 1: off the game strong. We saw what is now a

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Speaker 1: serious concern with Taiwan Walker, and it's that this dude's

633
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Speaker 1: just tired. This dude is just he's running out of

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Speaker 1: gas a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Taiwan Walker only threw sixty seven innings between twenty

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Speaker 2: eighteen and twenty twe between injuries and effectiveness. More injuries,

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Speaker 2: and he's already the other one hundred for the season.

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Speaker 1: And I think to just put into perspective for people,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Strausburg, like before he had like the major Tommy

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Speaker 1: John surgery thing, he was a guy who threw a

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Speaker 1: lot of innings. Did the Tommy John. He only threw

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Speaker 1: one hundred the next year, So you have to be

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Speaker 1: super careful with guys coming back from injuries. It makes

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Speaker 1: sense why Taiwan's running out of gas. But I'll let

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Speaker 1: you continue on this.

646
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're almost right now at the limit of where

647
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: you would have wanted to forecast Taiwan Walker for the season.

648
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: The Mets thought they were coming to the season much

649
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: more pitching depth that hasn't come to fruition. They might

650
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: have some more by the time you guys listen to

651
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: this podcast. I hope to god they have it by

652
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: four pm on Friday, because I don't really know what

653
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: we can expect from Taiwan Walker over the next month.

654
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: There's nothing really statistical we can point to, like because

655
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: last these still pretty level of spin rates are where

656
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: they've been since the crackdown.

657
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: His stuff isn't really moving more or less.

658
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: But his whiffs are dropping, his chase rays dropping, his

659
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: strikeouts are dropping. Players are hitting the ball harder against him.

660
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: And if you watch him, it just doesn't feel like

661
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: it did in April and May. It doesn't. The command

662
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: isn't there, The stuff isn't really there. He doesn't feel

663
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: sharp anymore.

664
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't feel sharp. The command definitely isn't there.

665
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: It feels like he's missing pitches a lot more, which

666
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: again will come down to a tired arm. Like you said,

667
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: in the last three years he's thrown combined sixty seven innings.

668
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: Probably didn't help that he go into the All Star

669
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: Game either. Honestly, he probably needed that time off to

670
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: just relax ice that arm up. Whatever you have to do,

671
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: because he is going to I mean we need him,

672
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: We need him, yes, really badly. But that's why the

673
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: pitching acquisition at the deadline's gonna be so big, because

674
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: if we can ease that load off of Taiwan here,

675
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: it would be huge. But right now you can't because

676
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: we just don't have that pitching yet.

677
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: No, Taiwan really needs the old Fugesi d el Stint

678
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: he needs three weeks off. Yeah, he's just gotta hang out, rest, reabilitate,

679
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: keep the mental aspect going, keep selling up, stick with the.

680
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: Team, throw a couple of bullpens. Yeah. It seems to

681
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: be a very valuable member of this clubhouse.

682
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: And as bad as you look today, he was still

683
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: working hard for us the bulldog mentality. As Mark has

684
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: mentioned many times in the show.

685
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: He just wasn't super effective with it. Yeah, and I

686
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: think that like really shows why he's like tired. It's

687
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: not anything actually wrong with Taiwan Walker. It's simply his

688
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: arm is just not right in the throw this much

689
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: actually fatigue. Yes, Like he's legitimately gassed us out.

690
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: And this is something that I've alluded to in previous episodes,

691
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: especially on my Twitter followed. You either had no range,

692
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: it just wasn't gonna happen all year with Taiwan. There

693
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: was no way this guy was gonna pitch in the

694
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: high twos or even the low threes. He's right there

695
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: at three five, three six is right now. I think

696
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: after today, his estimators are a full run above. His

697
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: stackcast page is as ugly as one you'll see in

698
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: the bigs from a guy who's looked as good as

699
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: him this year.

700
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: It's a problem.

701
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: It's something I'm very concerned with, very concerned concerned with.

702
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: He'll be fine going into next year. Which I know

703
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself here, but this isn't like

704
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: a long term problem I think with Taiwan's just simply

705
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the innings under his belt. Get twenty

706
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: two on the brain today. I have had twenty two

707
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: on the brain a little bit today. I'm getting excited.

708
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm just we're talking trades, we're talking teams here, we're

709
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: talking about the Mets. I'm getting excited now to get

710
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: off of Taiwan here, because I feel like we don't

711
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: want to shoot on the guy. We love Taiwan here.

712
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: We're a big Taiwan fan. We just are telling you

713
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: the truth. He's tired. I think he would if he wasn't, like,

714
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, such a bulldog. I think he'd probably admitted

715
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: to you. But he's not gonna ever say that, of course,

716
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: because he is. He's a gamer. Yeah. What was cool

717
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: about this game? While the Mets offense was just so

718
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: frustrating to watch because we had a lot of hits. Yeah,

719
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: and we had a lot of double plays. Well, all

720
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: the old school singles cry out there, how'd you like

721
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: this one? Yeah, this is why you don't hit singles.

722
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: This is why singles are irrelevant. This is why a

723
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: guy like Joey Gallo, who the Yankees just traded for,

724
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: is a fantastic player because he doesn't hit singles. But

725
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: one cool thing was Petere A Lonzo hit an absolute nuke. Yeah,

726
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: hit the upper decks today. My goodness. They were talking

727
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: on the broadcast about guys who have hit the upper

728
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: decks and the names were John Carlos Stanton, what was

729
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: the other one? I couldn't even remember, the Cespades of course,

730
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Mark Reynolds, Mark Reynolds, that was the other one too

731
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: that they mentioned. And Pete Alonzo. Nobody hits the ball

732
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: up there. It is a poke. I think it went

733
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: four to fifty two, which is an absolute fifty three shot.

734
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

735
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: If that home run was only four to fifty three feet,

736
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: you're gonn see him the Olympics Layer this week.

737
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the fakest four to fifty three. Ever,

738
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: that must have been like fifty three where it landed.

739
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: They didn't count for the fact that the stands are

740
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: like a couple hundred feet higher than where the ground

741
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: is or seventy five minimums that cast. Please prove me wrong,

742
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Please prove me wrong. That was the cool thing on

743
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: the offense as well as I guess Brandon Drury staying

744
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: hot another two hits, went eight for eight, seven for seven,

745
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I believe no, it was a got yeah. And then

746
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: dig round to a big double play and we had

747
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: shot hit the ball hard, yeah, hit the ball hard,

748
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: and then hit the ball again hard in the ninth inning.

749
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: But because damn we were hitting the ball hard loft

750
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Will Smith. That was such an annoying ninth.

751
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like I think a positive take from

752
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: this is that, like the Mets did hit the ball

753
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: hard today, very hard, hit into some hard outs, hit

754
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: in some tough luck for sure. So while this game

755
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: didn't look good in the box score because a lot

756
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: of hits, not a lot of runs, guys left on base,

757
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: the Mets are swinging the bats still well after struggling

758
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: early in the series.

759
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: Yes, but even in those games early in the series,

760
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: not so much. Game one, for some reason, we just

761
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: really couldn't touch Kyle Muller. Game two, we had a

762
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: lot of hard hit balls off Bryce Waltston. It was

763
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: like five and three innings Jarlackoff. Game didn't happen. We

764
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: had a lot of hits.

765
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Game four, the McGill game, and this one again like

766
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: we're putting the ball in play. The Braves for some

767
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: reason just become a good defensive team and we play them. Yeah, well,

768
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: I mean they'll throw Guillermo Herreri on, Abraham Almonte and

769
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: Jack Peterson learned how to play right field. God, because

770
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: he made some great plays and right too. So it

771
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: is what it is. Mets got beat. It's one of

772
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: those games. A Keen Bostick made his MLB debut, as

773
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: you put so lovingly in the notes, high and by

774
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: because Carlos Carrasco is making his debut tomorrow coming off

775
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: the sixth day IL, which means a Keen Bostick has

776
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: probably played his last game for the New York Mets.

777
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for playing, man. He had a nice appearance. I'm

778
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: glad that he did well in what could possibly be

779
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: his only major league appearance.

780
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy that the keen Bostick is gonna get a

781
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: nice game check out of this.

782
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeh. Shout out to South Carolina as well. Went to

783
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: school there. I always love to see guys from the

784
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: state doing I went to school there. No, I'm saying

785
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I went to school. Oh yeah, he grew up there. Yeah, okay, yeah,

786
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: so nice to see guys from that state do well.

787
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Man, Sometimes you lose. The

788
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: Mets series could have gone way worse. I'm not happy

789
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: about this, but I'm not sad.

790
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: No, the Mets had three starting pitchers this series in

791
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: five games, and they won two of them.

792
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: That's fine. It's fine. One thing I will tell you

793
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: what I'm sad about, though. Kamar Rocker, Yep, we have

794
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: to talk about this because this is bad. This is

795
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: getting ugly.

796
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: This is gonna take the place of our Prospect report

797
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: this midweek episode because there's a lot between Rocker five games,

798
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: trade deadline. They want to keep here all day.

799
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to keep here all day.

800
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Kamar Rocker looks like he might not be a New

801
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: York Met.

802
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, a good chance. Fifty to fifty, i'd say right now.

803
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty to fifty, and maybe the Mets are playing

804
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, tough guy here that the trade deadlines are

805
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: main focused and we're not really worried about Kamar, even

806
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: though the deadline's I think pretty.

807
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Similar Friday and Sunday.

808
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, right now there's a difference of money

809
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: and Kamar Rocker might not sign.

810
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I think the Mets might be playing tough guy

811
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: ish with the deadline, But I don't really fault the

812
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: Mets for the stans are taking here. There's a lot

813
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: of as happens, like there's a lot of hate for

814
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: what the Mets are doing right now on Twitter, like, oh,

815
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: these billionaires can't just fork over a couple extra million dollars.

816
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Sure they could theoretically, but like just taking like the

817
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: people and the money out of it. Kamar Rocker, Scott

818
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Boris and the Mets agreed to a number before medicals

819
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: were taken. Everyone was fine with that. Medicals were taken,

820
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: they found something that wasn't disclosed, and now they wanted

821
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: to agree to a different number. Logistically, I don't see

822
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: why that's an issue.

823
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you are the Mets front office,

824
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: that is the right way to go about this. That

825
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: is like doing your due diligence. You make sure that

826
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: nothing's wrong, and if there is, you're obviously not gonna

827
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: pay him. Like he's a healthy player. Because from what

828
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: it looks like, Kamar Rockers is getting Tommy John at

829
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: some point, whether it's with the Mets or it's when

830
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: he's at Vandy, He's going to need Tommy John surgery.

831
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: They haven't officially said what the issue is, but whenever

832
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: a team gets caught up on medicals, it's something with

833
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: the elbow. That being said, I understand why Kamar Rocker

834
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: wants his money. They agreed to it. He has Scott

835
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Boris as his agent. You want to get the most

836
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: money possible. Yeah, But if you're Kamar, it's it's a

837
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: dangerous game here. His stock has plummeted now knowing this

838
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: medical information here, I don't know if he's gonna get

839
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: this much money. Even with the Mets offering him that

840
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: cut or that cheap rate. I know it's gonna be

841
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: tough for him to get four or five million dollars

842
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: next year if he stays in Vandy. That's with him

843
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: being healthy. There's a chance he's not. There's a great

844
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: chance he's not.

845
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: Because even if he gets Tommy John surgery in the

846
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: next month, let's say he doesn't sign, I'll say the

847
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: window passes the mess downtside Kamara Rocker, the Mets gather

848
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: compensatory pick next year, Rockers back a Vanderbilt Now Rocker

849
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: is not pitching for an entire year. Rocker enters the

850
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: draft next year after I'm not pitching for an entire year.

851
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: The last time he did pitch, he had a pretty

852
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: bad month. He has now played hard to get with

853
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: two different Major League Baseball organizations, and on top of that,

854
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: he will have he will be a college senior. As

855
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: we saw in this year's draft, major league teams played

856
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: a lot of hardball with college seniors. I don't know

857
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: how Kamar Rocker even gets two and a half three

858
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: million dollars next year unless he just does the classic

859
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: throw a bullpen on Instagram on hundred miles an hour,

860
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: which that's entirely possible for sure. But that's a really

861
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: dicey game for Kamara Rocker when it seems like the

862
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Mets are still offering him north of three and a

863
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 2: half million dollars.

864
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's super dicey right now, and I understand

865
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: the fans frustration. I admit I'm a little frustrated too.

866
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: The fact that we have, you know, an owner that's

867
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: a billionaire, lots of money, richest owner in baseball, and

868
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: we are, you know, essentially talking about fractions of a

869
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: percentage of what the money actually means in that four

870
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: million to six million for Kamara, Rocker just signed the

871
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: let him get Tommy John whatever it's gonna be. But

872
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: I get it. It's a precedent. It's about being smart.

873
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: This is a smart Mets organization. Now We've talked about

874
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: this over and over again. We're not gonna make stupid

875
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: decisions paying him that extra two million. While it doesn't

876
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: really make sense, like to the fans of like, why

877
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you do it? Two millions nothing For an organization

878
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: to make that decision, it is important to be smart

879
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: with it.

880
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: Another part about this is the disclosure of information. A

881
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: lot of young pitchers these days, readept Mars of the

882
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: Angels and Matthew Libertor of the Cardinals come to mind.

883
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: They do a lot of development and medical not Alanna

884
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: say medical procedure. It's not getting surgery on their own,

885
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: but they're they're taking a lot of their own records,

886
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: and you have the right to keep that hidden. But

887
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: I think the Mets are gonna be running this organization

888
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: now from the top down very openly. So they would

889
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: like some of their most prized assets, Kamar Rockers, so

890
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: hopefully soon to be one of them, to be more

891
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: comfortable disclosing everything. I don't think that they want the

892
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: rug pulled out from under them again. And this would

893
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: be a bad present to set in terms of that,

894
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: which you would And I know what that Weld just took.

895
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: JT. Ginn, who's a guy who coming back from Tommy John.

896
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: But he's coming back. It's a big difference. I think

897
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people like to draw comparisons to Jtginn

898
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: with Kamar Rocker here. It's not the same. Getting already

899
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: had the procedure, he was done, he was recovering. Kamar

900
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: is going to need it at some point from what

901
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: it seems like. Again no official word on this. It's tough,

902
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: It's really really tough. The Mets want Kamar Rocker. They

903
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: just wanted for chief only.

904
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems like he only dropped a ten

905
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: because most teams are probably semi aware of this, including

906
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: the Mets, and I'm sure the Mets plan all along

907
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: was to try and get him for less money.

908
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: When push came the shove at this point.

909
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Of course, their later draft picks didn't really reflect that,

910
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: but maybe they also weren't trying to show their hand

911
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: to agent extraordinarire Scott Boris.

912
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

913
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: It's a real sticky hairy situation. I'm not really a

914
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: massive fan of right now.

915
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: And I think it's also worth noting something I forgot

916
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: to mention. Apparently one of the reasons why I dropped

917
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: a ten two is because pitchers are supposed to get

918
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: like this mandatory MRI before the draft, especially if you're

919
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: considered like one of the top fifty or top one

920
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: hundred guys. Kamar Rocker was the only guy not to

921
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: get one before the draft. That right there is a

922
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: big red fly. So yes, the Mets still took a

923
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: gat at the number ten spot, knowing that there could

924
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: be some medical issues here. They took a risk. It sucks,

925
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: but at the absolute worst, we get the number eleven

926
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: pick next year.

927
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: It seems like this has been a cat and mouse game,

928
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: and we as the fans, are learning about this much

929
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: later than I'm sure. Steve Cohen, Sandy Alderson, Zach Scott,

930
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: Kamar Rocker, and Scott.

931
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: Boris were where of what was going to happen here. Yeah,

932
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna play out. It's gonna be stressful. The good

933
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: thing though, is that we have something else to focus

934
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: our energy on, which we're now gonna switch to, which

935
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: is the MLB trade deadline. Yep, which the Mets. We've

936
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: been talking about it all podcasts long. We want them

937
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: to make moves. As of right now, they still have

938
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: not made any outside of Rich Hill. No, we've seen

939
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo, Danny Duffy, who's the other guy that flew

940
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: off the board, Max Suzero looks like he's gonna be

941
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: traded to the Padres and or Dodgers. A Hernandez, brad Hand,

942
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: Jimi Garcia, Kendall Graveman, Diego Castillot are going. Guys are going.

943
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 1: Names are flying. Joey Gallo forgot him, He's a pretty

944
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: big one. Adam Fraser, who a lot of Mets fans,

945
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: not us, but a lot of Mets fans wanted covered

946
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: that the last part. There have been some names that

947
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: have been flying off, but a lot of the guys

948
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: the Mets are still interested are still available at the

949
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: time of this recording. Chris Bryant, Javi Baiaz, those guys

950
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: Jose Burrios, Trevor Story, Trevor store yep which I the

951
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: more and more I think about it, I think Trevor

952
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: Story and John Gray could be a legit possibility here,

953
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: especially with what we just saw the Yankees do for

954
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo and Joey Gallo. We're starting to kind of

955
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: find that in between of what the market is starting

956
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: to look like, especially for hitters. Yes, there's a chance

957
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: that the Mets could pull that off, I think.

958
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: For sure, definitely, And I think a lot of Mets

959
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: fans are holding too much against Trevor Story for a

960
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: bead three months of baseball. Trevor Story had some elbow

961
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: problems earlier in the season. It was rumored that Tommy

962
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: John might be a possibility for him. He just decided

963
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: to rehab instead, was back in about three weeks. He's

964
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: had some field in trouble this year. His mile for

965
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: hours the first base has been way down. He's had

966
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: more throwing areas he's ever had in a single season

967
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: just in the first half this year alone.

968
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: And I think.

969
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: People are kind of knocking him down too many rungs

970
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: for really small minute things like that. This is one

971
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: of the elite players in baseball. Pound for pound, he's

972
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: probably top twenty in the whole game.

973
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: Uns well, steels bases, plays good defense. Outside of this season,

974
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: he's been a great gloves a good glove.

975
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying the throw it's like, if you need to

976
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: be a second base, I'm sure we could facilitate that.

977
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: Yes, month, of course he's got power. Yeah, he's not

978
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: hitting for as much average as he has in the past,

979
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: having a very bad year. Yeah, he's having a roughie

980
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: his career. But he also has zero protection in that lineup.

981
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: There's no reason to throw Trevor Story a good pitch.

982
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: And we've seen this happen with stars before. When there's

983
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: nobody around them, it is really hard to thrive. I'm

984
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: happy to take a shot on Trevor Story because, as

985
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: you just said, he is a top twenty player in

986
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: the game when all said and done.

987
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it took a lot of Trevor's story

988
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: mentally to see his infield mate get traded for pennies

989
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: and the dollar just before the season started, and he's

990
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: known all season he was a dead man walking. He

991
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to negotiate with the Rockies. Who would want

992
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: to negotiate with the Rockies. They're a trash organization. They

993
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: perform gross and competence on a daily basis. It's awful, Like,

994
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: how could you get jacked up for a Rockies game

995
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: right now?

996
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: No, not possible, Rockies fans, Rocky organization, Rockies players. It's

997
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: bad right there, right now. And the good thing for

998
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: the Mets is that they do have two guys that

999
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: we are interested in for sure, and Story and Gray,

1000
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: and the Rockies should be forced to sell their franchise.

1001
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be allowed to exist anymore. If they don't

1002
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: get rid of those two guys, they have to move.

1003
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's why you're seeing the Mets be

1004
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: so patient, is that we are so interested in guys

1005
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: that have to be moved. We don't have to make

1006
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: a push yet. Nobody has made a push for these

1007
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: guys yet. Definitely, And most of the news that came

1008
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: out of about the Mets trade deadline plans over the

1009
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: last like two ish days was that the Mets were

1010
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: focused on rentals.

1011
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: And that is the slow play game, like we will

1012
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: wait until three fifty seven to pull the trigger on

1013
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: this deal. Steve Cohen, that guy has iron balls. You

1014
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: will make fourteen billion dollars by being a nervous guy.

1015
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: You don't make fourteen million dollars a billion, but yeah,

1016
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah million. My god, that's peasant cash. Please. Fourteen

1017
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: billion with a B. That's other owners. Yeah, that's other owners.

1018
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Imagine not having fourteen billion dollars pores house time runner money. Yeah, gross,

1019
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: imagine shopping and the bear they're having other teams pay

1020
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: their contracts. Disgusting. Anyway, he almost.

1021
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: A bar and barrel.

1022
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got two really good players. They did get

1023
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: two really good players in Rizzo and Galla. Those are

1024
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: great moves. But this isnt Yankees podcast. Fuck the Yankees.

1025
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about the Mets here. Steve Cohen, he's a

1026
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: smart dude. Sandy Alderson's a smart dude. Zach Scott. They've

1027
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: shown they know what to do with this front office here.

1028
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I trust them. I trust them that they're going to

1029
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: make the right move as right now, we don't know

1030
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: what it is, but from what I'm hearing, the Mets

1031
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: are very aggressive with Chris Bryant. A little birdie, you know,

1032
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: tripped in my ear told me Chris Bryant is the

1033
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: guy that Mets are going after. That Jalen Palmer will

1034
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: be included in that deal. If if Chris Bryan's move,

1035
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: this Birdie might be wrong. I don't know, but I

1036
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: have pretty good feeling that this guy knows what's happening.

1037
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: So hopefully the Mets get Chris Bryant. We've talked about him,

1038
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: We want him. He's a good ballplayer. Top ten third

1039
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: basement in the league would help us out definitely.

1040
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: It seems like the Mets are trying to do some

1041
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: type of group by, whether it be John Gray and

1042
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: Trevor's story or some combination of Chris Bryant, Craig Kimberly

1043
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: and Zach Davies.

1044
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: Those teams are gonna want to do that.

1045
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: Because it'll push the prospect capital up. You might be

1046
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: able to snake a guy like Marcus Gantos away from

1047
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: the Mets right now because it seems like they're committed

1048
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: to holding on to Ronnie Mauricio.

1049
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: Which is obvious in how we've been negotiating or trying

1050
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: to get Jose Brios. Yeah, and they said that the

1051
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Mets are like cool, they're asking for too much, and

1052
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: that's probably Ronnie Mauricio and other prospects for Brios, which

1053
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm very much hoping to giving up Rios, but again,

1054
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: we don't want to go too crazy giving up Maurico Mauricio.

1055
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: My names are also screwed up today. It's been It's

1056
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: been a long time. I feel like I've said a

1057
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: thousand names this episode.

1058
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: When we sat down to record this podcast, we were

1059
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: like seven o'clock already.

1060
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: The trade deadline is a stressful time for me as

1061
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: a content creator and James as a Mets fan. It's

1062
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: a stressful time for us as well. Double the stress

1063
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: right now. It is a lot fun in the in

1064
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the pressure cooker. Yes, but Mets are gonna make move.

1065
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm confident in it too. If you have one player

1066
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: you think the Mets are gonna go for, who is it?

1067
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: Who the Mets land Chris Brian Zach Davies. Wow, Okay,

1068
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm going Storry and John Gray. We shall see, we

1069
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: shall see. We'll bet another pomegranate visy on that. How

1070
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: about that?

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00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: I may have bet with Mark yesterday when the Gallo

1072
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: news came out, between the trade being an official and

1073
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: the names of the Yankees prospects going towards Texas from

1074
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: not announced, I said there was no way that Anthony

1075
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: or Oswald Parazza would be in the trade. I'd better

1076
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: a drink at the Blackout Friday night because the transition

1077
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: into the Reds preview.

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00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: We're going to the game tomorrow night. Back in black.

1079
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: We need like the ac DC, like yeah, like in

1080
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: there or whatever.

1081
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: I'll try to do that, yeah, and.

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00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: Do it after I did it. Okay, We've got to

1083
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: keep mind in there, of course, because that was I

1084
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: think that was pretty good. That was okay, all right,

1085
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, back in Black Friday and Carls Carrasco Mickey's debut. Yes,

1086
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: it should be Electric City. Scranton's the electric City. No

1087
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: flushing the electric City sometimes sometimes, but we're gonna take

1088
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: it over. I'm really excited for this. The Black Jersey

1089
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: is your debut in Carrasco debut as well. It should

1090
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: be a packed house. We're gonna be there literally from

1091
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: the time the gates open because we don't want to

1092
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: miss any second of it. I'm so amped for this game.

1093
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm in for this series. We got the Reds coming in.

1094
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: We smacked them around Cincinnati. They still are good offense,

1095
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: and Joey Evado is the hottest player in Major League Baseball.

1096
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: But this Mets team, we're good.

1097
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: We could beat them definitely, And you're gonna hear a

1098
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: lot over the next few days about how Carlos Carrasco

1099
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: is the Mets deadline acquisition.

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Take that with a grain of salt.

1101
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: If it comes from upper management, you should give them

1102
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: hell because they have control over that guy. Like Luis

1103
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: Rojas says it, that's okay. He can't make a trade.

1104
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: No, he's not in control at all.

1105
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: He's dealing with the players he has at his disposal,

1106
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: and Carlos Carrasco is a good one. If he performs

1107
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: anything like he did in his last rehab assignment, that

1108
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: slider was sliding ninety six on the gun he had

1109
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: at the eight strikeouts, seven strikeouts and three innings, we

1110
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: could be in for a real.

1111
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: Special second half of Carlos Carrasco and Mets fans patient

1112
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: with Carrasco. I know it's gonna be tough to hear,

1113
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: and I know it's gonna be tough to see him

1114
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: throw probably four innings tomorrow because he's probably gonna have

1115
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: what sixty to eighty pitch count. We don't know what

1116
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: it is. They haven't said any probably twice around the order,

1117
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: twice around the order. You gotta stream with Kidy Gloves.

1118
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: He's coming back from a torn ham string and coming

1119
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: back from all his litany of injuries that he's had.

1120
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: Guy cancer less than three years ago. Yeah, like he's

1121
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: you gotta tream delicately. And he's a little up there

1122
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: in age too, he's thirty five years old. He's going

1123
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: to be good, though, just be patient, take your time.

1124
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: He's going to be a nice for us. And I'm

1125
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: excited to pitch for the first time with the Mets

1126
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: on Friday. Who do we got the rest of the

1127
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: series here? The rest of the series is gonna be

1128
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: pretty fun. So the Mets have Carrasco, Hill, and Stroman,

1129
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: so lines up basically as good as it can right

1130
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: now in the Mets world based on the pitchers at

1131
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: our disposal, and we're going up against Sunny Gray, Sunny

1132
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Gray Carrasco. That's a good old timey you know, American

1133
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: League matchout, good pitchers. Yeah, it's gonna be well pitched game.

1134
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: All lights are gonna be on Friday night, Saturday evening though,

1135
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: Rich Hill versus Wade Miley.

1136
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Which might be the most exciting, boring game of all time. Yeah,

1137
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: ooh slog I like that. That is the perfect word

1138
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: for it, because these are two guys who basically throw

1139
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: the same Rich Hill is just Wade Miley ten years later. Yeah,

1140
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: we mind tell you two guys who don't shave every day, No,

1141
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: don't shave, don't really care about their appearance. They just

1142
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: come out there and like, I'll throw five in inchs.

1143
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: What do you? What are you in the game? Like

1144
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: beer game? Oh, definitely light beer game.

1145
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: And then on Sunday afternoon, both gonna be there again.

1146
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Marcus Droman versus our boy Vladimir Guvieiras, who we need

1147
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: to beat the piss.

1148
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Out of again because he's a bad pitcher, not good.

1149
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: There's one cool thing about Ladimir gutierres I'll say it again,

1150
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: that neck tattoo of the spider thing. It is so

1151
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: cool but also lame at the same time. Smack, Vladimir

1152
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: Gutierre is around. This is series all series. We gotta win.

1153
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: This is a very winnable one though. Yes, just don't

1154
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: let Joey Vado beat you, because right now, Joey Vado

1155
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: is the hottest player on the earth. He has what

1156
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: eight or nine home runs in his last six games.

1157
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: He was quoted after the game today saying, I'm trying

1158
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: to hit home runs, and I am hitting home runs

1159
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to hit home runs. He's figured it out,

1160
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: and that's scary because he was a former MVP.

1161
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey Vodos to the Hall of Fame was actually

1162
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: trending over these last couple of days.

1163
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: So that's how hot you know he is. He's saving

1164
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: his possible Hall of Fame candidacy by learning how to

1165
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: hit home runs. Again. I don't think the one time

1166
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: MVP is a good shot at the Hall of Fame,

1167
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: but maybe his on base percentage is so sick. Really,

1168
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: he's a four hundred on base percentage guy for his career.

1169
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: But anyway, we're getting into minutia of things here, Mets

1170
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: Reds Big Series. Hopefully we have some acquisitions to talk

1171
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: about on the next episode of the Mets the podcast here,

1172
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: because I think this is where we're gonna wrap this

1173
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: one up here the Brave series. While those five games

1174
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: not a lot to talk about Kamar Rocker trade deadline,

1175
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: that's really what stole the show here and hopefully on

1176
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: this next episode after we beat the Reds. Maybe a sweep.

1177
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. Let's sweep and why not? Let's get aggressive.

1178
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: Let's win a serious Mets have been winning the last series. Recently,

1179
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: they've been just very up and down, basically five hundred

1180
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: team over the last month, month and a half.

1181
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: Let's take two of three. Yep, let's take two of three.

1182
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: Let's take a sweep if we can, that'd be really cool.

1183
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: We feel haven't done that in a very long time.

1184
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I can't tell the last time the mess the team.

1185
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 1: Have we swept the team? They definitely swept a team,

1186
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: have we?

1187
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: We had the four game swep against the Phillies in April?

1188
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Okay, could that be the only one?

1189
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: That might be the only one? And maybe like a

1190
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: two game sweep. We don't do three game sweeps. Get

1191
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: that out of here. Let's do it this weekend. I'm

1192
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: calling big things. Let's get a three game sweep here.

1193
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: We have the Diamonbacks at home in May. Yes they're

1194
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: bad though, Yeah they're really bad. I don't know.

1195
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: We sweat the Oriols either time we played them.

1196
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: It's also true we might actually say feel did Yeah,

1197
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: we did do it at City Feel Okay, Yeah, and

1198
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: I think we we have like.

1199
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: A seven game winning streak at one point after the

1200
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: dying back, after the Oriols diingbacks, and one games after

1201
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: that was.

1202
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: The Raccoon week. Yes, let's harness that energy again. Let's

1203
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: get back on that winning streak here. Let's get a

1204
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: new acquisition in here. Let's get Chris Brent, let's get

1205
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: Josey Burrios, let's get everybody. We're the New York Mets.

1206
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: We got money now, let's spend it. Let's go win.

1207
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's go Mets. That's the end of this episode. Guys,

1208
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: episode number thirty six of the Mets Up Podcast. Make

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00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: sure you're following us on Twitter and Instagram at mets up,

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00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, mets up Podcast. Listen to us on Spotify,

1211
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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, Google Podcasts, Drop us a rating, drop us

1212
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: a review. Follow James on Twitter at Jeter had No

1213
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Range me draftneck Mark. Thanks for listening, thanks for watching,

1214
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Speaker 1: and we'll see you guys on the next episode. Peace

1215
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: out back in.

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Speaker 4: Black ya makeable.

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Speaker 5: No sat screen