1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Happy uh, happy New Year, you guys. New Year, you 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: guys had a good one from here because they're also sleeping. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, guys. What did you guys over the 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: last two weeks, you guys have had a spike touchbacks 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: as approach. Definitely, what if you guys started the year 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: one or two a game? I think you guys had 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: seven the last two games. Is that part of facing 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: so different returners or is that part of the philosophical shift. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. I think 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: when you go into games, you you kind of figure 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: out some different alternate styles of kicks that you can 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: show on film, things that you can do, things that 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: you can hide. And it's just a combination of just 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: going into the week, figuring out what we're good at, 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: where we want to be at, changing up Any's footwork 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, seeing where he's at with this weather, 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: and and just kind of going from there. So it's 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: all it's all feel, it's all like going through the week, 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: and this is kind of how we're filmed gaming go 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: from there. 21 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: How much would you like to see the response after 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: the fake the first time? Yeah? Then right back? 23 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, heck of a call by the Jets to run that, 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: and uh, I thought Schooler almost got it. But you know, 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: I wish I could have prepared them better in that situation. 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: But plops to our team and showing how just resilent 27 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: they are. They were in another one in the second possession, 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: and our guys were ready, they were locked in, adjusted 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: very well to the formation they gave us, and then 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: they stopped that one. So I was really really pleased 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: to see our guys do that and take ownership and 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: just take over that part of ink and turn over 33 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: the ball and give us the ball in the fifty island. 34 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: It seemed like Brandan suspected something before halftime against the 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: same look you give some context on what exactly kind 36 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: of triggered maybe some of that suspicion and what happened. 37 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, just again, he just has has really good antennas, 38 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: And uh, we were aware. You know, obviously in a 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: game like that, with the lead like that, you're always 40 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: aware of fakes that could happen. That's why I always say, 41 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, we gave up that fake. But a lot 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: of it, to me was coaching just got to be 43 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: better at communicating to our guys on the sideline because 44 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: if I would have I think, you know, Schooler does 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: a job of just maybe batting that ball down or 46 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: even intercepting he's had tabbed it, laid on it. But 47 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: that's really my fault the end of the day. But yeah, 48 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the second one he was his intendants were on. We 49 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: have been working a very similar formation all week, and 50 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: they were able to see it right off the bat, 51 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: make the adjustment, and then stop the second one. So 52 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: I was pleased to see that. I'm gonna pickoffs that 53 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: the Jets did return Just how do you feel like 54 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: you guys. 55 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: Covered those well? 56 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: Very well. I mean that's the number one you got 57 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: return team in the NFL right now, and they got 58 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: two really dynamic returners. And that was a huge challenge 59 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: for our guys after the Buffalo game and going into 60 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks of covering, like hey man, we 61 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta pick it up and get some momentum 62 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: go into the playoffs. And I thought our guys rises 63 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to the occasion. They took the coaching from the week, 64 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: they went out there next to themselves and they put 65 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: on a good show, I thought, And uh, it was 66 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: very pleased to see that. Sure mechanically where you're at 67 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: this side, great team or no yet, how does that work? 68 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: You know, because you got a sort of you know 69 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: third whatever. 70 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Yes, you gotta have both teams ready. You just got 71 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: to be very good communicy on the sideline, like whether 72 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna use the great team where you can use 73 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: your popan return team, and always kind of have two 74 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: or three calls in mind that you can call based 75 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: on down and distance. That's kind of how I do 76 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: it throughout the week, and then based on what the 77 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: team's showing throughout the week, and then then score situation. 78 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: All that plays a factor throughout the game. You just 79 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: got to be prepared to do it and to be 80 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: very good about communicating on the sideline when that situation 81 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: like Corey bar More, yeah, case, I think it's out there. 82 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Like those guys you either like, hey, I might need 83 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: you here, but I might not exactly like that, but 84 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: they are most of time. They're on the field too, 85 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: So you got to have that the guys on the 86 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: sideline keying on that, and then the signaling that you're 87 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: doing helps those guys as they're trying to run off 88 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: the field, they see the signal to stay on the 89 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: field and go from there, schooler that your captain is 90 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: the ones that kind of communicate on and off the 91 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: field like that. 92 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: Looked like a Roger. Ponder had a block that was 93 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: kind of similar to one of the first preseason games. 94 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Where he got just enough for the guy to make 95 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: sure that he can set up here mis Johnson's return. 96 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, how he's continued to grow in terms of his 97 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: technique as the seasons. 98 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: They're basically with Ponder is. I think he's really grown. 99 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: From a practice habit standpoint, I think his practice habits 100 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: has gone so much better, and he's been taking the 101 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: coaching from the meeting room like where he's made mistakes 102 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: or in the season and really worked on it throughout 103 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: the week. And because of that he's gone he's gotten 104 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: better week to week and developed more week to week. 105 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: So I'm very pleased with that. Like the beginning of 106 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: the year, you know, those little things penalties and just 107 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: little things of how to practice like a pro, and 108 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: I think he's really taking ownership of that and it's 109 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: made no better player because of it. 110 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: Yesterday that you and Tom kind of pitched Jalen Hawkins 111 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: to him a little bit and said how selfless he was. 112 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: What did that what was that coming coming? You guys, 113 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: what did you tell like you want to join? 114 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Well, like the rest of this team right now, in 115 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: my opinion, like one of the most unselfish teams I've 116 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: ever been on, from top to down. The best players 117 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: on our team, like I could ask Matt Collins, Stefan Daggs, 118 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I could ask all those guys to do something and 119 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: they do it like they just do it because they 120 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: wanted to help the team out. And jaim Hawk Hawkins 121 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: fits that category. I knew when Rabel came here, how 122 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: he talked about what he was trying to build. The 123 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: first guy that came in my mind was Jayden Hawkins. 124 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Like Jalen Hawkins would play four corps. He'll play every 125 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: play on Spash teams right now and play one hundred 126 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: percent of snaps on defense, like he just do it 127 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: because he cares so much. That's the kind of guy 128 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: he is. And he did it for me last year 129 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: why he was playing safety, and he's never missed a meeting, 130 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: he never missed his practice. I mean, there's there's nothing 131 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: bad I can say about the guy, Like, there's really not, 132 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: And that to me personifies his team right now. A 133 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: bunch of guys like him who are selfless. And that's 134 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: why you know, when I was asking a pian of that, 135 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: when that time came around last this past season or 136 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: off season, I was like, coach, there's a no brainer, 137 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: like you're gonna love this guy whether he's played special 138 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: teams with defense, Like you're gonna want this guy on 139 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: the team. And I'm glad for him. You know, it's 140 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: not equated to a lot of special teams because he's 141 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: playing hunder center snaps and that's great for me. That's 142 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: what I'm hopeful with. Those guys all play defense and 143 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: all play offense one day and they're all special teams. 144 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: That's like the goal of mine. And to see him 145 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing right now, and I'm very pleased 146 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: and excited for him, and he's earned every right. 147 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Sure, if we didn't get Zock tore after the Ravens 148 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: team it was the fake punt. 149 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you learned from that. What's the message 150 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: to the guys on the punt team? 151 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: Why didn't work? 152 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you always go when you work a 153 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: certain face, you hope to get a certain look that 154 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: you like. And uh, I dought the Ravens did a 155 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal job of covering the look that we wanted and 156 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: and Tay made a decision to start just running with 157 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: it and said what we wanted to do. And that's 158 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: something that you just got to work on and learn 159 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: learn from growth, Like it's a growth mindset, like the 160 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: teams are going to have good plans against you, and 161 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes you got to be risky. And we were 162 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: being risky in that situation and and didn't pay off 163 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: in that moment. But I think at the end of 164 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: the day, it shows that you know, from top down, 165 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: from our head coach for our players, man, we're gonna 166 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: out there and win games. Like we're gonna be risky, 167 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna try things and now always gonna work out. 168 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: And it didn't work out, learn from it, build from it, 169 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and don't let it happen again, and and then come 170 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: up with a better fate next time that works. Yeah, 171 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: this is what's called Yeah, Like there's certain things, but 172 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you just you just like, hey, go do it, 173 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: just go be gon't feel a football player, And like 174 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I said, I just shows that our team we're not 175 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: scared to do call certain things. We're gonna We're gonna 176 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: be aggressive in every game that we call, and I'm 177 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: want to game plan that way because coach Raybone wants 178 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: me to game and plan that way. And I'm gonna 179 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: continue to do that and not be scared to make 180 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: calls and things like that because you know, I'm trying 181 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: to help the team the end of the day, were 182 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: trying to help the team, and I'm excited that we're 183 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: aggressive in that mindset. C J get his first CJ 184 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: to pre get his first game action. I think last week, Yeah, 185 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: film review did a good job. Man. He's a guy 186 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: that's waited very patiently throughout the whole year of just 187 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: sitting back giving us a great look on the scout 188 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: team and he's taking advantage of that and hopefully continues 189 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: to develop and get better because he's one of those 190 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: guys that you know, we tagged in the in the 191 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: draft as a guy that could probably help on teams 192 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: once he develops, and he's doing that day by day. 193 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: What treats since does he break well tight ends? You 194 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: know they're especially on turn now you need those bigger 195 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: bodies that can block their bigger bodies. He moves well, 196 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: he can block in space because he's a tight end 197 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: and a big body for punt things like that that 198 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you need and hit. He moves very well. He's got 199 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: the size and length to be able to cover up 200 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: outside backers and linebackers things like that. And you're looking 201 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: for those type of guys on special teams. All right, 202 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, appreciate that A good one. 203 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Thank you.