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Speaker 1: As a league fifteen to ten touched up er well.

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Speaker 2: The good vibes continue.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 3: joined by Matt Muddy Smith, who I think has been

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Speaker 3: on the road calling hoops Christ It's.

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Speaker 1: Been a busy week. Was out at MSG, got a

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Speaker 1: sweet little garden run in me Saint John's versus Yukon

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then a quick one up to up

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Speaker 1: to Maples, Stanford versus UCLA. A little bit less juice

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Speaker 1: in the arena at Stanford, believe it or not than

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Speaker 1: there was in New York City for the Johnnies versus

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Speaker 1: the number one team in the nation Yukon. But tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap here in Southern California to our friend

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Speaker 1: Mick Cronan. Love him. One of my favorite people in town,

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Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in town. And just to

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh would absolutely love. The toughness that he instills

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Speaker 1: he's he's got the eighth youngest team in the nation.

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Speaker 1: And this is you know a team. I just saw

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Speaker 1: nineteen year olds, eighteen year olds. And you know, after

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Speaker 1: struggling at the start of the year, they are absolutely

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Speaker 1: you know the correlation I see is, hey, it's not

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Speaker 1: a sprint, it's a marathon. And with the amount of

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Speaker 1: free agents the Chargers have, and how much different this

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Speaker 1: it starts a little bit slow, but when you have

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Speaker 1: of a coach. The ability to develop, to make kids

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is one of the best at it. You

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Speaker 1: look at those look at those kids at Michigan that

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Speaker 1: and I think that's you know, it's just something that

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Speaker 1: and coming up with big defensive stops. And that's the

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Speaker 1: developmental process that's so important to finding in a good coach.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, We've talked so much about Jim's success, you know,

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure we'll dig into this a little bit

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Speaker 3: more money as the off season goes on. It's just

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Speaker 3: I feel like that those guys are going to show

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Speaker 3: and you know what a partner he has with Joe

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Speaker 3: And as I kind of like land survey the landscape

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Speaker 1: On this impressive. I'm with you, Chris. I think there's

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Speaker 1: got to have the best players. You know, we see

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Speaker 1: You know, when you think about the Patriot teams and

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Speaker 1: I think one of the most impressive things about about

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Speaker 1: There is not a single you know it is gonna

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Speaker 1: This is someone who started at a personnel assistant, you know,

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Speaker 1: And just look, I don't think we're saying anything that

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Speaker 1: And some people don't. They're not comfortable in that environment.

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Speaker 2: The angles the same too, right.

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Speaker 3: It's just it comes down to wanting to win right, right,

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter the personality or the way in

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Speaker 3: And Baltimore has had a formula of success in doing it,

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Speaker 3: like those messages aligned very nicely when you talk about

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Speaker 3: And I thought you just maybe the best point about

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Speaker 2: And I think that mass sure.

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Speaker 1: And you know, football is interesting because it is different

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Speaker 3: us and Joe, you got us fired up with your presser.

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Speaker 5: you know, warms my heart and gets me wanted to

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00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 5: hug her, but she's on a plane flying back to Baltimore,

431
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 5: so you know, but it was great. The boys had

432
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 5: an awesome time. You know, got some jerseys, some pictures,

433
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 5: some gear. They're in the player's locker room playing Xbox,

434
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 5: you know, FIFA, and you know, so they just they're

435
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: really excited and special moment for my family, for sure.

436
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: I get Joe that there's you know, thirty two of these,

437
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: so each one of them is special. There's so few

438
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: of them, and anybody's fortunate enough to get one of them,

439
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: especially as long as you've worked to get to the

440
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: top of this mountain in personnel. But when you heard

441
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers job was open, what kind of what's the

442
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: first thing? You know, I'm not asking you to rank

443
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: them in order. Hey, this is what attracted me. But

444
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: what jumps out at you is why this is a

445
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: great job for you.

446
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 5: Well, I think when when it first opens up, you

447
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 5: know they have a quarterback like that, you don't have

448
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: to fix that problem. You know there that you know

449
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: you are set there, So that's right away makes it attractive.

450
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: Then you start doing your research, you know on the team, uh,

451
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 5: the ownership.

452
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 4: I know, I knew John from the road so and I've.

453
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 5: Always had a great rapport and relationship with them out

454
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 5: on the road.

455
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 4: And it's just friendly.

456
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 5: It's John and I aren't best friends, you know, you know,

457
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 5: we're just acquaintances that respect one another and so, but

458
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 5: always had a great day with them when I was

459
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 5: together with them.

460
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Speaker 4: So those are the two things that popped in my head.

461
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 5: And then obviously you start looking at what they're going

462
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: to do with who they're targeting, and you know, once

463
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: they hired Jim, he kind of completes the full circle.

464
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 5: You know, and I really meant it when I said it.

465
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 5: Like every scout, you know, we say great ownership, great QB,

466
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 5: great head coach. And I have friends that are general

467
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 5: managers and they said, listen, you know, don't take a

468
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 5: job where you don't believe in ownership.

469
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's not worth it.

470
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, it's not worth it to you

471
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 5: because you're in a general manager role again, Matt, like you said,

472
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 5: there's only thirty two of them, But having gone through

473
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 5: the process a couple of times, you know, like you

474
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 5: do see the difference of owners and there's a lot

475
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 5: of great owners out there, and I had the opportunity

476
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Speaker 5: to interview.

477
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: With some great owners in the past.

478
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 5: Didn't work out for me in terms of getting the jobs,

479
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: but you know, to sit there with the Spanos family

480
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 5: and this organization when I came in and to feel it.

481
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 5: I knew it in the zoom. Like I told my wife,

482
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: I said, this place is special. I could feel it.

483
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 5: I could feel it in the zoom and couldn't wait

484
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 5: to get an invite back out here to be in person,

485
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 5: and it just carried over so that just kind of

486
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 5: stealed the deal in the end.

487
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: But certainly the quarterback was a first thing that jumps

488
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 4: out to you.

489
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Joe, we talked about all the jobs

490
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: and the way things are structured throughout the NFL, and

491
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: just the connection between you and Jim, the fact that

492
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: John was in Baltimore, and you know, just the fact

493
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: that you guys want to play football the same way.

494
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't get that connectivity between ownership, front office,

495
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: head coach, and sometimes it's a delicate thing.

496
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Why was this so perfect for you?

497
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, I think you.

498
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: Know, Jim and John they're certainly different, but they think

499
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: alike in terms of football. You know, they want to

500
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 5: build a big, fast, physical, tough team. That's what we've

501
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 5: always been about in Baltimore, you know, prior to John.

502
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 5: John just came in, just tied it up, you know,

503
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: and like it was like a tremendous leader and motivator

504
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 5: and really inspired us as scouts to be to go

505
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 5: out there and get the best players we can get

506
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: that really fit our scheme.

507
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 4: I think Jim is the same way. I mean, he's

508
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: looking at me.

509
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 5: He's nothing but a winner, you know, and and but

510
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 5: they think the same way. So for me walking in here,

511
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: the staff he's putting together. I'm aligned with them already.

512
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: I've been raised in the same you know formula, you know,

513
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: or the same you know, organizational philosophy. So we're going

514
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 5: to hit the ground run and try to find our

515
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: types of players.

516
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: You know. You know there's people talk about coaches and scheme,

517
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: and you know, this coach runs this particular type of scheme.

518
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: This is how they want to play football. I think

519
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: it often gets overlooked in front offices. Certain front offices

520
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: draft a certain way. You know, they draft first rounders

521
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: like you don't rarely see them stray from the lines.

522
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, they're taking old lineman, They're taking d lineman

523
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: in the first round if they've got a quarter that's

524
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Is there something to that is? You know,

525
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: just kind of because I just think of the way

526
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: that you built in Baltimore and you know, drafting a

527
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: center in the first round a couple of years ago.

528
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: How important that position is? I guess that's kind of

529
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: where my head's going. Joe just we got to see

530
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: how important Corey Linsley was to this team and what

531
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 1: happened when he wasn't there. Nothing against will clap at all,

532
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: did a great job filling in, but course special, Like,

533
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: is there something to that from a front office? Hey,

534
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: this is sort of a philosophy that we believe in

535
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: and where we've got to build a team first before

536
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: we can get success anywhere else.

537
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there are I think there are different

538
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 5: philosophies in terms of how to build a team.

539
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: I think you can see that through the league.

540
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: Like you mentioned, Matt, you know, in Baltimore we believed

541
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: in being strong upfront on both sides of the ball.

542
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: You know, you control the line of scrimmage, you control

543
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: the tempo of the game, you win the time of possession.

544
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: Our best teams in Baltimore always had strong offensive lines

545
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 5: and offensive line depth and have been able to stop

546
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: the run.

547
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: Are the years we've struggled in Baltimore.

548
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: Whether it be due to injuries or maybe we just

549
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 5: didn't have as good a talent up front. You notice that,

550
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 5: you know, hey, we're well weak on the right side

551
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: of the offensive line, or we're a little weak at

552
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 5: center or left guard, or we rarely have been weak

553
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: at left tackle.

554
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: We played with Jo for a long time and now

555
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 4: with pet Ronnie, and.

556
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 5: But you see it, you know, you see it affect

557
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: you as an offense. So that's one thing I believe in.

558
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 5: I know Gym has always put together great offense the

559
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: lines at all the places he's been, But yeah, you

560
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: control the off Nothing gets done without a great offensive line.

561
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: You know, if you're getting quarterback hit, you can't throw it.

562
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: If you can't create lanes, you can't run it. You know,

563
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: So put together a stronger offensive line and build from there.

564
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: You know, Money and I a couple of weeks ago,

565
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: we're just talking about different different pieces on this team

566
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: that we know, you know are going to be here,

567
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: from Rashawn Slater to Toutley to a Polo to Derwin James.

568
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: Obviously you've seen these guys and you scouted these guys.

569
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: When I say the name Rashaun Slater or Toulee or Darwin,

570
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like these are game changing guys.

571
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: How do you assess this roster starting with some of

572
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: those cornerstone pieces.

573
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: Joe, Yeah, I think you know one.

574
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 5: As we get the staffs together, uh, they evaluate him

575
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: from the coaching standpoint, And certainly I've already evaluated this team.

576
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: I actually advanced them last year.

577
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: You know, when when Baltimore is getting ready to play

578
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: them and so and then obviously prepping for the opportunity.

579
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: You watch them film on him. You get to see

580
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: the players again. You know, Tully was a guy obviously

581
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: is a rookie this year. Uh, fun player to watch

582
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 5: in college. Was a big fan of his in college,

583
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: and he kind of did what you thought he'd.

584
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: Do in the pros.

585
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: You know, does he have a home, I don't know,

586
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: but he plays anywhere, and he plays hard and he

587
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 5: plays he's productive.

588
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, but that's what you want in

589
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: defensive players, especially along the front.

590
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: You want some versatility guy that can set an age,

591
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: move inside, rush inside. You know, those are the types

592
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: of players you really like to have. And then with Rashaan,

593
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: you know you got gotta protect you know, Justin's blindside,

594
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: you know, and consistently consistent producer, performer out there on

595
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 5: the left side.

596
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: And it's it's it's a.

597
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: Lot of it's a lot of fun to walk in

598
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 5: and see some pieces like that. You know, again, I

599
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: talked about this team. A lot of gms walk into

600
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: a place that needs need.

601
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: A lot of help. This isn't one of those places.

602
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: Derwin had a chance to meet him yesterday spend some

603
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: time with him.

604
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: Oh, it was great. It was great. The just the

605
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: end the room, you know, like me and him and

606
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: Jim were just in there. Tito was in there with

607
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: us and we were just Jesse was in there.

608
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 5: We're just chopping it up and just the excitement you

609
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 5: know that, you know, and you felt it like the

610
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 5: presence with Jim and them, and they were feeding off

611
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: each other.

612
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: So it's it's gonna be It's gonna be a lot

613
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: of fun. Uh. You know.

614
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: The players are the ones that have been around. You

615
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: see him buying in right away, and I just can't

616
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: wait to watch it, watch it come together out there

617
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 5: on the field.

618
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: I want to focus on a word you just said.

619
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Speaker 1: Their energy, and that is something you feel when you're

620
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: in Derwin's presence. It's special. It is How how important

621
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: is that because you know, I just kind of think

622
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: about the teams in the super Bowl right now, and

623
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: I think about energy from Nick Bosa, energy from George Kittle.

624
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: You know, we see Patrick mahomes Man. I don't know

625
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: if there's a more positive energy bringing energy to a

626
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: team guy than than him. When you hear those micd ups,

627
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: just is that something that that you can find before

628
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: you draft, before you sign. And how important do you

629
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: believe that that particular you know, personality trait is to

630
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: success for a team?

631
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's huge.

632
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 5: Like a scouts, we go into into schools and we

633
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: talk about that, and you hear their sources and the

634
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: coaches and the people they that work with the players

635
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: tell you, man, you know he's an energy giver or

636
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: people feed off of him, you know. And you know

637
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: you don't have to be articulate and verbose and to

638
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: be a motivator. You know, you can just get out

639
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: there and lead and just have the spirit and passion

640
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: and love of the game and players feed off of

641
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: that and feel it. And uh and then in reverse,

642
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: you know, an opposite you can have. You can be

643
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: an We call it an energy vampire.

644
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: You know, someone steals it out of the room.

645
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, we don't want those, you know,

646
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: we want we want players that are passionate and it bleeds,

647
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: it leads through their pores and and and you feel it.

648
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: Joe, the fact that you've done every job in the

649
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: NFL and you were with one organization for such a

650
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: long time. I know you spoke to this on Tuesday.

651
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: But just the perspective you have from being a scout

652
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: to just everybody in that organization, Like you've done that

653
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: job or you know of that job very well.

654
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: How is that going to serve.

655
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: You in this new role knowing that you've been into

656
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: other people's shoes and you can empathize with some of

657
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: the challenges they may have or some of the things

658
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: that they need to do in their role.

659
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, so I think that's how exactly how it

660
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 5: does help me. Like, as you just stated, I can

661
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 5: tell a scout a personnel assistant, hey, this might be

662
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 5: a better way. You know, I know you're doing this,

663
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: why I've done this, this is how I've done it,

664
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 5: this is how I would do it. You know, same

665
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 5: with scouts. I understand the challenge of scouting. You know,

666
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: you leave your house August first, or I really in

667
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 5: the end of July. You go to training camp for

668
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks, and then you get out on

669
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: the road. You maybe come home for two days, and

670
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 5: you're on the road for twenty one and you're back

671
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: home after two days, and then it becomes a two

672
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: week cycle.

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: Where you're away, you're away from your wife, your kids.

674
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: If you have a family, and if you're single, it's

675
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: just you're out on the road grinding and you just

676
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: never get back home.

677
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: And so it's a grind. You got your work until midnight.

678
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: So you know, I can help.

679
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: Them because I've been in their shoes and directors of

680
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: college scouting, you know, I've worked alongside directors are pro

681
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 5: watched how they've done things. You know, so every having

682
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 5: been able to go through all those roles and really

683
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 5: you know, learning and being complete in that role before

684
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: I took the next step.

685
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: You know, it didn't rush through anything.

686
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: Always tried to absorb from Eric and Ozzy along the way,

687
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: and Eric was a great mentor for me, as was Ozzie.

688
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 5: And so you know, George Cokeenis is a great friend

689
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: of mine and mentor. We've kind of worked side by

690
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 5: side for the past six years. But along the way

691
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: we've always always been like just a big brother to me.

692
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: And and you know, so you try to give that

693
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: back and I've always tried to do that with our scouts,

694
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: and I'll continue to do it in my current role.

695
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on that one name, Ozzie, just because

696
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if there ever was or ever will

697
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: be someone better to to do it, just to can

698
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: assistency the rare misses. You know, maybe it's not home runs,

699
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: but man, there's a lot of and there were home

700
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: runs obviously, but there's just every everything's a double. There's

701
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: no strikeouts, double off the walls. Good, Yeah, exactly. We

702
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: would always say you, as someone that covered the draft

703
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: for all those years at NFL Network, we would always say,

704
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: as we're in the midst of the draft, that guy

705
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: fall to Baltimore, They how did they? And it's not

706
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: because they fell to you, It's because the Ravens manipulate

707
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: the board on like any other team, it was just

708
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: a constant owait, they're going back, noe, Now they're back up,

709
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: Now they're back. And that wasn't just the first round,

710
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: it was every round. So I'm sure you know that's

711
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: something that Ozzie, you know, imparted on all you guys,

712
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: And why doesn't everybody do it? How hard is it

713
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: to do it to try to make sure that you

714
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: kind of get that balance of not just always moving back,

715
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: but just kind of you know, manipulating the board where

716
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: it seems to always work out for the Ravens.

717
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, it's like going back.

718
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta have a trade partner, right, but

719
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 5: you've got to be willing to and and you've got

720
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 5: to be prepared to go back. I think that's probably

721
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 5: And again I've only been in one war room, Matt

722
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 5: so with Ozzie and it was first it was Phil.

723
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 5: Now you know, with Eric for really twenty plus years,

724
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 5: twenty years. But you know the preparation that goes into

725
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 5: it to be ready on draft day. The answers are

726
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 5: already made on draft day, the game plan, the strategies.

727
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 5: I think that you're prepared for every scenario.

728
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: You don't.

729
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 5: You don't just sit there waiting to pick at five, ten, fifteen,

730
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 5: thirty two, it doesn't matter.

731
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: And just I'm just going to wait to pick. You

732
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: got to be ready to say, hey.

733
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: If if, what, where's the cutoff where we would go

734
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: up and trade for a player? If these eight players fall,

735
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 5: We're sitting at thirty two and these eight players.

736
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: Fall, where would we go?

737
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: How high would we are we willing to go up

738
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: to get them?

739
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: You know?

740
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 4: And in the same.

741
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: Token, if you're going to trade back, you know, okay,

742
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 5: which players are will we not trade away from you know,

743
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: these are locks to be chargers if they're there. If

744
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: they're not there, this is if these players are there,

745
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 5: we trade away from them.

746
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: You know, And how far back do you want to go?

747
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: You have to have a plan, And I think Ozzy

748
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 5: and Eric have done a masterful job of that. And

749
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 5: I got to sit there and watch it and learn

750
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: and I'll do hopefully be able to be equally as

751
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: good as them. But you know, they set the bar

752
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 5: very very high.

753
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, Chris, I'm gonna just jump in again

754
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: just because I think, you know, the draft has become

755
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: such it's it's so important to fans. It's crazy how

756
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: popular it's become. Is you know, I remember the first

757
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: time we did the combine, we did a live stream

758
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com and it ended up being the

759
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: most watched event in NFL dot com history. We had

760
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: like seventy countries watching the combine at the same time,

761
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: and like one point six million people were tuned into

762
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: that particular stream. Is you know, it's me and Bucky

763
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: and Maurice Jones, Drew and I and we're all just there.

764
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: At the end of the forty yard dash line, I

765
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: kept saying, what are these people watching, why would they

766
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: be interested in this? But they are. And I would

767
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: love for you to explain something that you brought up

768
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: in the press or and that's comppicks and why they're

769
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: so expensed, because I don't think people listening and watching

770
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: quite understand exactly how that formula works, why it's so important,

771
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: and why it became a big part of the lifeblood

772
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: of the success of the Ravens.

773
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

774
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 5: So like with the compics, it's really just managing your

775
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: roster and.

776
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: Knowing who is going to generate a compic.

777
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 5: I think we did a great job with that valuation expectations.

778
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: And there's times like you know, we go into free agency.

779
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 5: We want to keep players in LA here. We want

780
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: to keep the Chargers the Chargers when we can, but

781
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: there's going to come a point with the salary cap,

782
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 5: you're going to lose some players.

783
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: And you know that.

784
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 5: And it's it's managing the signings versus the losses in

785
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: free agency, and they put them in buckets in terms

786
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: of you know, what they say I'm for, So you

787
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: just kind of you gotta know, Okay, if we sign

788
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 5: this player, he's going to cancel out him, you know,

789
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: and the and.

790
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 4: The tier, you know, So definitely one of those things.

791
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: Once you create that cycle of compicts, once you start

792
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: getting them, all of a sudden, you get three compicts

793
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 5: on top of your seven draft picks, that's ten players

794
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 5: that you potentially could ride through for four years.

795
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: Well there, some of them aren't going to be back,

796
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: you know.

797
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: You just you're gonna pay the great ones and and

798
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: the very good ones, and you're gonna you may lose

799
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: some very good ones because you just can't afford them all.

800
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: So you hit on picks, you get more chances, and

801
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 5: then you just replenishes itself every every four years, so

802
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 5: to speak.

803
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: But it really becomes every year of replenishment. Yeah.

804
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: I think one of the things you said tuesday, Joe,

805
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: that fired up the fans was just every pick matters

806
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: in the draft, and obviously the Chargers. I don't think

807
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: when we when we started the season, we envisioned the

808
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: Chargers picking number five overall in this draft. But just

809
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: focusing on that picture for a second, because obviously there's

810
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: some quarterbacks at the top, and there's gonna be some

811
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: teams one a quarterback. Five just becomes that much more

812
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: attractive in terms of getting a blue chip player or

813
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: the possibilities that come with it. You know, I think

814
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: you spoke to it's it's very rare to have a

815
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: top five pick, especially coming from the Ravens organization. Just

816
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: how unique is this draft going to be for you

817
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: being that it's your first one and you start pretty early.

818
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I definitely we won't be sitting around waiting

819
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: very long, that's for sure. I mean, you know, now

820
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: we've done it one time in Baltimore we had the

821
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: fifth pick.

822
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 4: And we've had it twice.

823
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: Actually, I think it was my second draft two thousand

824
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: drafts we actually had the fifth pick and then we

825
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: got the tenth pick as well, or we had the

826
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 5: tenth pick and got the fifth pick. But yeah, you

827
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: definitely don't wait as long, but you want to get

828
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: it right.

829
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: You got to nail it if you use it, and.

830
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 5: Then if not, at the phone rings you get an

831
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 5: opportunity to move back, you know, the way the offers.

832
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 5: But certainly a lot of excitement knowing that we're gonna

833
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to get a really special player here

834
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 5: if we pick at five, and if we don't, we

835
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 5: we'll get some more players, you know, So again that's

836
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 5: the whole the whole plan.

837
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: You know, who are the guys we take? We're taking?

838
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: Are we willing to.

839
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: Walk away from a player? We'll see how the quarterbacks

840
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 5: come off the board. Uh certainly think there's three or

841
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: or four that could go really early in this draft.

842
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 5: So you know, we'll see, Uh, we'll see how that

843
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: all happens. But got plenty of time for that, you know,

844
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 5: a lot. We're not gonna have to wait long once

845
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: the draft click kicks off, But we got a little

846
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 5: bit of time if you know, we don't get too

847
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: excited too early.

848
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: You know, you got no doubt pace, you know, build

849
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: yourself to that.

850
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, as far as we're concerned, there's there's

851
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks in the draft, and all you teams that

852
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: don't have one, you're gonna want to come up and

853
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: get it, and you're gonna want to pay it is.

854
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.

855
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: It's a good quarterback here, you know, I mean the

856
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 5: teams that need quarterbacks, it's a good quarterback here, that's

857
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: for sure.

858
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: You know. The you know you talked about the staff

859
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: and and how that was priority won right, make sure

860
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: you kind of get this. The coaching staff settled how

861
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: much changes because you oversee all of it, you know,

862
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: for the draft, and we got a long way to go.

863
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: Obviously the combine hasn't even shown up yet the time

864
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: we're doing this, but you know, the game completed, you've

865
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: got all your film, Like, how much work have you

866
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I assume it's a considerable amount. Have you already done it?

867
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Does it change because you're at a new place, Like

868
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: the way you evaluate or value these players with these coaches,

869
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: with the pieces you already have, does that change at all?

870
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Or is the evaluation the evaluation no matter where you are.

871
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, the evaluations the evaluation no matter where you are. Now,

872
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 5: the staff you have and what they want to play

873
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 5: for them, the types of linebackers, d linemen, you want,

874
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 5: types of corners you want that can change offensive line,

875
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 5: wide receivers. All that can change when you go to

876
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 5: new staffs and bring in new staffs. I've experienced it

877
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 5: in Baltimore. We've had different coaches and coordinators that have

878
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 5: come in that may have wanted.

879
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 4: To shift the type of player we have, and you

880
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: just adjust, you know. And I remember one.

881
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: Year we went from we were a gap you know,

882
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: power run game, gap scheme and and I think it

883
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: was in February March we made a decision to go

884
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 5: to a wide zone running scheme, and it's like, okay,

885
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: you know that's so we've already had our February meetings,

886
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: you know, with a scouts and it's like, all right, guys,

887
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 5: you know that that big guard that can roll off

888
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 5: the ball and mall three technique, he might not be

889
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 5: the guy that we want here in Baltimore anymore. So yeah,

890
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: he certainly have to adjust. But you got to know

891
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: what plays in each scheme. I think the coaches, you know,

892
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 5: conveying that to us, communicating it to us helps us

893
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 5: evaluate the players that fit what they want to do.

894
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: Joe final one.

895
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: For me, you come from a brutal division where you

896
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: really I think at one point all four teams could

897
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: have made the playoffs. The AFC West has been tough,

898
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: but it's always going through Kansas City, and when you

899
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: have a quarterback, you've got a chance, and obviously the

900
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: quarterback here you always have a chance. How would you

901
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: assess this AFC West starting with Kansas City and you

902
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: got Sean Payton in the division, the Raiders making moves.

903
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 3: It's a very interesting four teams here.

904
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think with any division, all right, any division,

905
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: we've seen it. Certainly Kansas City there the standard right now,

906
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 5: and they're consistent winners. And that's what that's what every

907
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: organization should be, you know, aspiring to be a.

908
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: Team that consistently competes to win championships. And that's what

909
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: we're going to do here and uh and but they

910
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 4: do it, you.

911
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 5: Know, excellent evaluation, excellent scouting. I know a lot of

912
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: their scouts. They're all in sync with one another. And

913
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 5: that's what we want to build here. When you watch divisions,

914
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 5: when you watch teams, they Sean Payton certainly has a

915
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: track for a great track record of success. And you

916
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: see the improvement Oakland's made as well over the past

917
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: couple of years with in terms of adding players, and

918
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: everyone's striving to get better. And a division can turn

919
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: just like that. And you you look across the league. Heck,

920
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 5: I think the NFC East, who was No.

921
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: One won the division. There was no repeat winner for

922
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: I don't know how long it was, but it was

923
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: on the top of years or ten years. And you

924
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 4: get a lot of worse the first team.

925
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: So that can happen in an instant and you know,

926
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 5: it can be done with players, it can be done

927
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: with new schemes, it can be done with the new mentality,

928
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 5: a bunch of different ways. So I know we're gonna

929
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: focus here with the Chargers on being the best we

930
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 5: can be, all right, and we're gonna try to get

931
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 5: better every single day. But we want our players trying

932
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 5: to get better every day. We want our scouts trying

933
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 5: to get better every day, and we want to try

934
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 5: to improve this roster every single day. And we're gonna

935
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 5: keep doing that and hopefully one day we're at the top,

936
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 5: you know. And that's our goal, and we're gonna work

937
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: hard to get there as fast as we can. But

938
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 5: we know, we know we got great teams we're going

939
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: up against twice a year that are that are in the.

940
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: Way for sure, Hey, almost certainties right. In the NFL,

941
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: every year four new teams go in, four teams fall

942
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs, and every year a division sees

943
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: a team go worse the first why Chargers, It's crazy.

944
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Every year I'll finish, I'll finish with this, Joe, I get.

945
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: I have the great pleasure to do the games with

946
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, one of my absolute favorite people, Uh in

947
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: the world. You had a chance to work with them.

948
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: With Phil you mentioned Phil Savage. Uh kind of brought

949
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: you guys, And I don't know if I'm saying, like,

950
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: give me a story, if you can just share, you

951
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: know what what your experience was, like the very young

952
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: just cutting his teeth of both of you, Daniel Jeremiah

953
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: way back in the day with the Ravens.

954
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: A good DJ story.

955
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: You know, I don't have any like one.

956
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: I'll never say anything negative about DJ, so it's always

957
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: going to be positives of DJ.

958
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 4: One.

959
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: You know.

960
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: I don't know how if you guys know how good

961
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: of an athlete he is.

962
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: I mean he is.

963
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 5: I never played. I'm not a hooper, all right. I

964
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 5: can't shoot to save my life. But I go down

965
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: there and watch and play hoops and all that. But

966
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: we got we all of us scouts during training camp,

967
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: just you find something to compete with, right, and we

968
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: would play.

969
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Walk football.

970
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: Okay, it turned it went from walk football into running football.

971
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: But we started by playing walk football. And so I'm

972
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: having to cover Daniel, and Daniel's like speed walking and

973
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: I'm like I'm almost having to.

974
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: Jog to keep up with him.

975
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: But he's so he's taller than me and longer than me.

976
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: So even if I'm on his hip, he's just catching

977
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 5: mall send me this. So then when you say, you know,

978
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 5: I'm like, forget this walk stuff, Let's just run, you know.

979
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: And so again I'm like the fastest guy on my

980
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 5: team and I have to cover Daniel, And I'm like,

981
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 5: this is not working, man.

982
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: Can we double cover him?

983
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: Can we put his I get some safety help over

984
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 5: the top, you know, I mean.

985
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: He's absolutely torching me. Give me some help. You know,

986
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: I can't do it, you know, you know, so I try.

987
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: I kept trying and trying and trying.

988
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 5: I just couldn't keep up with him. So uh, but

989
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 5: just a great, great person, a great friend. Love talking

990
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: players with them. Although I have to tighten that up

991
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, but no, just just we

992
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 5: we uh we always have had a great time together.

993
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 5: And he loves what he does and evaluating players. I

994
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: love what I do and evaluating players and scouting and

995
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: but just.

996
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: A special person. Glad.

997
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 5: I'm glad he's around. I was really fired up he

998
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 5: showed up at the press conference. Meant a lot to me. Uh,

999
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: He's giving me some good advice through the uh, the

1000
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: uh interview.

1001
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: Process that maybe I'll tell you guys some other time,

1002
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: but uh, you know, it was, it was, it was.

1003
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: It's been great to have him in my corner here

1004
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 5: and to see him the other day was just awesome,

1005
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: special moment.

1006
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: Well, if you uh don't know how good of an

1007
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: athlete DJ is, just ask him. Joe.

1008
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Joe, Joe. This has been This has been amazing.

1009
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: Man.

1010
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: It's just the the energy over the last week from

1011
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 3: from Jim's presser to yours and just to see how

1012
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: how fired up the city is. To see what you

1013
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 3: guys do this offseason beyond has been very very cool

1014
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: and refreshing and uh, we're just so happier in Los Angeles.

1015
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 2: And appreciate your time, man, Yeah.

1016
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate it.

1017
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: You know, the work is hard, but the game is fun, right,

1018
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 5: you know, so exactly have fun. You know, let's keep

1019
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: the energy up and that's what we're gonna do here.

1020
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna have fun competing and work hard.

1021
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: So buddy, it's just like talking to an old buddy.

1022
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: He's just a great dude and I'm so glad he's

1023
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: part of the Chargers. Wow.

1024
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: Look, I think that's that's a big part of it,

1025
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's he talked about that

1026
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: in his presser and it's communicat you know, you can

1027
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: clearly see first time we've ever talked to him on

1028
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: the pod, the communication skills, the comfortability, the familiarity that

1029
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: you feel like you have with him even though you

1030
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: just met him. So that goes a long way in

1031
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: making you know, you you asked it straight out the

1032
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, the first question about his family, and he

1033
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: you know, pointed to this is a family. That's that's

1034
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: just way that you spend so much time together when

1035
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: you work for a professional football team that you start

1036
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: to feel like, well, I'm closer to these people some

1037
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: gervery than I have my family because I see him more,

1038
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm with them more, I'm on the road with them,

1039
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm you know, at the office from six am until

1040
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: eight pm every single day. So that's an important part

1041
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: of it, you know, to wanting as a scout to

1042
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: be on the road for twenty one days to help

1043
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: this guy do his job as general manager. And you know,

1044
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: certainly it appears though he's going to set a very

1045
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, a great tone for those guys to know

1046
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: they're appreciated and to want to work hard to deliver

1047
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: for this regime and for this team to be as

1048
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: great as as we think they can be.

1049
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll catch you with Joe in a few

1050
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 3: weeks at the combine. Uh, We're gonna have a great

1051
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: week in Indy more than one episode of Charges Weekly.

1052
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: I promise we'll talk to a lot of folks there

1053
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks, and I'm sure next week Money,

1054
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: we can really dig into the coaching staff. I'm sure

1055
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: at that point next Thursday, we'll have a list of

1056
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: all the coaches and responsibilities and we can dive in

1057
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: a little.

1058
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: Bit more, no doubt, looking forward to it.

1059
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: Cool. All right, guys for Money, I'm Chris. This has

1060
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: been Charges Weekly. We'll see you next week.