Speaker 1: It's so weird how like the person you are in
Speaker 1: high school, unless you make drastic changes, is kind of
Speaker 1: just who you carries forever. Yeah, you carry the one
Speaker 1: on that personality. Yeah. Absolutely. They used to do those
Speaker 1: episodes of like Ricky Lake where they would be like,
Speaker 1: I used to be a dork in high school, but
Speaker 1: now I'm fucking hot, and like they'd come out, you remember,
Speaker 1: and they'd like yell at the person who bullied them.
Speaker 1: But even when they would come out, you could still
Speaker 1: see a dork in them, you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: because a loser would be like, I gotta get on
Speaker 1: Ricky Lake to show someone who hasn't thought about me
Speaker 1: in twenty two years. You mean that this lady with
Speaker 1: the whole family, you're gonna yell at her because she
Speaker 1: was mean to you when she was sixteen. Girl, the
Speaker 1: fucker racists mostly money stuff you can't tell me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a spectacular
Speaker 1: I'm Wonderful, a beautiful, big tittied episode of My Mama
Speaker 1: Told Me, the podcast where we died Deep Deep go
Speaker 1: underground into the world of black conspiracy theories and we
Speaker 1: worked to finally prove that Jaden Smith can in fact
Speaker 1: talked to fish. That Nigga died his eyebrows blonde for
Speaker 1: a reason. Humans didn't tell him to do that. A
Speaker 1: fish told him that. A trout named Harold said, Jaden,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a fish. You should look more
Speaker 1: like a fish. Make your eyebrows disappear into your face.
Speaker 1: We know you can talk to fish, Jayden, and we
Speaker 1: are going to prove it. I'm lanksty Kerman. I'm your
Speaker 1: host as always, I'm happy. I'm having a weird day.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Today I discovered that and I didn't
Speaker 1: know this, and I'm a very ignorant person. Apparently the
Speaker 1: phrase Siamese twins is racist. Had no idea this whole time.
Speaker 1: I just thought I never knew that that Siam was
Speaker 1: a real place. I just thought that was the name
Speaker 1: that they picked for those twins that are stuck together.
Speaker 1: But as it turns out, we were driving, my wife
Speaker 1: and I driving past a restaurant they claimed to sell
Speaker 1: Siamese food, and I said, well, why are they selling
Speaker 1: Siamese food? What is Siamese food? Is that like when
Speaker 1: two chickens are pressed up against each other and they
Speaker 1: cook it anyway. I didn't know, and she said, no,
Speaker 1: Siam is a real place. And then I said, oh no,
Speaker 1: that means that that word that white people came up with,
Speaker 1: it's just me. It was just two kids apparently born
Speaker 1: with their elbows stuck together. And then white people were like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna be your country's thing forever and
Speaker 1: always name the evils of America. Well that covers that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this my next guest. He ain't evil.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. He's a lovely human being. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited that he's here. You know him from Oh Man,
Speaker 1: you know him from Black Monday, it's a hilarious show
Speaker 1: that he both writes on and has a part in.
Speaker 1: You know him from Duncanville. You know him from writing
Speaker 1: on Black am Huh. You know him from trolling Jimmy
Speaker 1: John's on the Internet. Because he told me, and I'm
Speaker 1: quoted here, he Fox with Subway and he doesn't think
Speaker 1: Jared did it. That's what he said. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll find out more about that when I invite him on.
Speaker 1: Please welcome my hilarious desk. Mr yass lester, every boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me let me clarify something. Sure, I didn't say
Speaker 1: Jared didn't do it. I said he did it. And
Speaker 1: I don't care a right Fair enough like me give
Speaker 1: me my five dollar foot loan. I was specifically the
Speaker 1: subway come back home. Look at cabinets on Wayfair. I
Speaker 1: don't care if a woman comes to me. I'm anyway.
Speaker 1: My kids needs a cabine regardless. What's that guy's doing
Speaker 1: with me? Now you're talking about botuses. If you find
Speaker 1: a kid in your cabinet, you're gonna send it back now.
Speaker 1: Now you got a kid, You got a kid. And
Speaker 1: what they don't tell you is is that like you
Speaker 1: can also you don't gotta keep the kid. You don't
Speaker 1: gotta keep that. You can tell the kid and if
Speaker 1: that's to come up for you, you could do that.
Speaker 1: It's like you didn't pay nothing for the cabinet, right you.
Speaker 1: You could do the right thing or the wrong thing
Speaker 1: with that. That's your choice. Why are you making this
Speaker 1: up an issue for Wayfair? They're just doing good business?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like first of all, and I know
Speaker 1: this is the conspiracy we're talking about, but I will
Speaker 1: say the thing that always cracks, like, especially with that one,
Speaker 1: I was just like you think you're the one who
Speaker 1: cracked the case. What I'm saying all these people, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you think you think Wayfair didn't think enough to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's name it exactly after murdered children or kidnapped children.
Speaker 1: Make it twelve thousand dollars, but no one will suspect
Speaker 1: the thing. I hope a fifteen year old doesn't come
Speaker 1: on the website and times like it's just so crazy.
Speaker 1: It's so it is wild that they were like the
Speaker 1: biggest way to crack this code is I'm pointing out
Speaker 1: this one's named Rebecca, so there's probably a lady named
Speaker 1: Rebecca in here. It's like, I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think that's how you if I'm gonna like kidnap a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna do it that. But well it's
Speaker 1: like you're not the same name, the same name, like
Speaker 1: if any it's more to me, it reads more like,
Speaker 1: you know how like Disney animators are like all right,
Speaker 1: make sure the pastor has a boner made like it's
Speaker 1: like a like it's gross and weird, but like nothing,
Speaker 1: there's not kids behind the boards of Disney like you know,
Speaker 1: doing like weird sex stuff, right, it's to me, It's
Speaker 1: it's more like that, like it was just some weird
Speaker 1: guys like I'm gonna name these I'm gonna name this
Speaker 1: after the lady I follow home and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now you're weird for sure, but there's not a kid
Speaker 1: in there. You just got some ship to work out
Speaker 1: you Yeah, So anyway, that's great. I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 1: Dog good. Yeah, you know, me and you just worked
Speaker 1: together on the b T Awards, so there's a time
Speaker 1: catching up since then. Dog fine, I moved in the
Speaker 1: middle of this, which has been a nightmare. Okay, bro like,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be on a racist tip, but
Speaker 1: I gotta say so hold on, wait a minute. That's
Speaker 1: how they get go ahead. So my girlfriend Chelsea who
Speaker 1: you know you worked with her on Hilarious Lankston Kerman
Speaker 1: was an actor on, so she hired move is for us.
Speaker 1: They end up being Russian, which whateversion. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not ideal in these times, but here we are.
Speaker 1: It feels like they should like that. We gotta preface
Speaker 1: with you know, just so you know we're Russian, like
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna come through with the accents and all that.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we were really Russian. We're like
Speaker 1: we're like old school, like you know, James Bond, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't own nothing but track suits. That's
Speaker 1: that's the kind of energy I'm coming with. But like
Speaker 1: to the point where it was like an older dude
Speaker 1: who was balding and then like clearly like his nineteen
Speaker 1: year old son, and it was like one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's just like for the sun. I was like,
Speaker 1: well you do like working like one of them troll farms,
Speaker 1: like you know what, Like you're you're a moore, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you don't how to
Speaker 1: use a phone? Bro Like young entrepreneurial boy, you should
Speaker 1: be you should be hacking our our government. What are
Speaker 1: you doing? You would have a better life back in
Speaker 1: Russia just sitting in one of them rooms, you know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I digress. So they show up and like what would
Speaker 1: any other time be like, oh, Walmart gigantic like Walmart
Speaker 1: store size eighteen wheeler, like the gigantic ones. We have
Speaker 1: a one bedroom apartment or like whatever, it's unnecessary, but
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, they load up half my apartment. They're
Speaker 1: like all right, that's all we can fit for y'all.
Speaker 1: And we were like what They're like, oh yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: we have a whole other household on the truck, so
Speaker 1: we're just squeezing y'all on. It was just like all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta take this l. So that's so my point is,
Speaker 1: it's like we were so scared of them being Russian
Speaker 1: that we took the l on them being bad movers.
Speaker 1: You know, this wasn't based on like culture. This was
Speaker 1: just too bad movers who packed you guys in together? No, man,
Speaker 1: that it was because here's the thing. It felt like,
Speaker 1: and obviously I'm gonna be real, this is where the
Speaker 1: race part comes. It's like it felt like they you
Speaker 1: that we couldn't say nothing because they're Russian. Yeah that
Speaker 1: makes sense, Like they kid. It was like a lot
Speaker 1: of like long looks at us and we're like, al right,
Speaker 1: just hired to grab it. You you both have very
Speaker 1: ethnic names. It's they probably looked at all the reports
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we'll do whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll do whatever we want. Are we gonna give them
Speaker 1: their own truck? It was so crazy, But I was
Speaker 1: just like oh this is like their time, and like
Speaker 1: I mean it for you like online and stuff, Like
Speaker 1: I hate the argument that people are like Russians did
Speaker 1: all this. I'm like Russians planted seeds, but like Russians
Speaker 1: weren't at the voting booths, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they just convinced y'all. They were just sending out
Speaker 1: blasts and then if y'all wanted this to happen, yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't do anything that specially, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: It wasn't great. So like I'm usually just like yeah, Russia,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, but this time I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like I know, I can't do nothing right now.
Speaker 1: First they came from my national election and I said nothing.
Speaker 1: Then they came from my furniture and I drew a
Speaker 1: motherfucking line. Oh my god, that it is so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's I was. Yeah, I was. I was scared,
Speaker 1: but you know, goodness, that's all life is, ban dog.
Speaker 1: I don't do nothing. I don't know, but I mean
Speaker 1: you're like out there exercising at all. I don't do nothing,
Speaker 1: run and then I come back inside. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: It ain't. It's not that deep. But you know, we
Speaker 1: gotta figure out ways to stay sane and all of this.
Speaker 1: I figured if I somehow could get buff before the
Speaker 1: industry opens back up and they have to talk to
Speaker 1: me different, then I'll have saved my career somehow. It's
Speaker 1: not working, as you can plainly see. But I know,
Speaker 1: but your face is definitely because here's the thing you have,
Speaker 1: because are you You're a drinker. I drink. I used
Speaker 1: to drink a lot more Now I'm like very occasionally
Speaker 1: the alogracy. Okay, see, I was gonna say, as someone
Speaker 1: who used to drink and doesn't anymore, I noticed I
Speaker 1: can tell when people stop their face, and so I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that you stopped, Yeah, you stopped, or
Speaker 1: you're working out a lot. But it's probably a mix
Speaker 1: of both as well. I'll take it. I used to
Speaker 1: be a fatty, Now I'm not what I can get.
Speaker 1: Speaking of fear, we're talking about fear. I had a
Speaker 1: little bit of nervousness going into your conspiracy theory. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest. Oh you have. You've presented one that arguably
Speaker 1: is one of our most challenging to enter into in
Speaker 1: today's era. In, but I'm very excited to introduce it
Speaker 1: because you were. You also were the fastest person of
Speaker 1: all time to respond to the question of what would
Speaker 1: you like your conspiracy theory to be? No One, it's
Speaker 1: alwayst as if I'm always thinking about it. It felt
Speaker 1: like you had the email drafted already and we're just
Speaker 1: waiting for someone to ask what you're thinking about, Yasir,
Speaker 1: And you asked, and it's beautiful, you said, my mama
Speaker 1: told me Usha and Sierra used to be hermaphrodites. And boy,
Speaker 1: oh boy, did my jaw dropped. And before we go
Speaker 1: any further, because I want to hear all your thoughts
Speaker 1: before we go any further, I want to be clear
Speaker 1: for our listeners at home that that word is not
Speaker 1: a word that we use for people. It is an
Speaker 1: outdated word. The correct terminology is inter center sex. Yes exactly. However,
Speaker 1: at the time that we were growing up, that was
Speaker 1: the word that that conspiracy theory sort of came out of.
Speaker 1: I never heard the word intersex until like three years ago,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, everybody was just running around calling Sierra and
Speaker 1: Usher hermaphrodites. So please, Yasner, tell me more about this
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. So so, and this is where we get
Speaker 1: into the like, this is where we get into the
Speaker 1: weeds of it a little bit, because so many conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: as someone who genuinely loves them, yeah, so many conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories usually have a thread of like, oh okay, Like
Speaker 1: it's not that you can follow it perfectly, but you
Speaker 1: can tug on it and get back to where you started, right.
Speaker 1: This one truly the only thing, the only thing I
Speaker 1: can think of, because I really spent a lot of time,
Speaker 1: and here's the thing I didn't. I wasn't as smart
Speaker 1: as to like go research it the only thing that
Speaker 1: they are. I wasn't reading your book, studying your science,
Speaker 1: because like, here's the thing. It's like it was I think, well,
Speaker 1: you know, and I hope this doesn't step on any
Speaker 1: other ones, but we're roughly the same age. I'm a
Speaker 1: few years older than you. But this conspiracy theory hit
Speaker 1: the ground running around the same time as Marilyn Manson
Speaker 1: had his ribs removed, so he, you know, give himself head.
Speaker 1: And then that little Kim backstage one night, you know,
Speaker 1: gave blowy Jay's to so many dudes. She had to
Speaker 1: get her stomach pump. So like, so it's like number
Speaker 1: one is like a sixth grader who has no concept
Speaker 1: of sex as is like you know, like I feel
Speaker 1: like sixth grade girls get it because they have to,
Speaker 1: Like we just live in a society sadly that like
Speaker 1: if they don't have the knowledge, dudes take advantage of them.
Speaker 1: And these usually older men blah blah blah. So like
Speaker 1: usually thank goodness, women have like a better a better
Speaker 1: grasp on these things sex until and I mean this
Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, I feel like no
Speaker 1: man knows anything about sex until he actually has it.
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter how many books you've read, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how many stories you've heard. It's once you're
Speaker 1: actually in the act, you're like, whoa there, we have
Speaker 1: no concept of like where things actually go or what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to feel like it's just all theoretical. And
Speaker 1: then you get inside of a person and you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take it easy. I think I get
Speaker 1: it now. Even then, and even then I would say,
Speaker 1: like I think at like time number ten, it's like
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I got it, Like well, that's why
Speaker 1: we're also trash at it in the beginning because we
Speaker 1: didn't know anything to start off with. And then that's
Speaker 1: tacked on top of the fact that we're not smart
Speaker 1: enough for intuitive enough to figure it out quickly, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like men are We're not sitting
Speaker 1: there studying and figuring it out. We're just like looking
Speaker 1: at it and being like, oh, that's different than I thought.
Speaker 1: And then we like, you know, run and go, come
Speaker 1: and try to figure it out again the next time.
Speaker 1: Oh god, um, so as you know, as you so
Speaker 1: eloquently stated, So it's like you don't know anything. So
Speaker 1: it's like not only that, not only do you not
Speaker 1: know anything about the act like being intersects. It's a
Speaker 1: very that's a very nuanced conversation, even for even for
Speaker 1: the most expert mind in terms of like what that
Speaker 1: means not just for the person, but for society at large,
Speaker 1: you know. And then like the Marilyn Manson thing, it's
Speaker 1: like you clearly don't know enough about anatomy to know
Speaker 1: that that's impossible. It's that didn't help that much. It didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it's like pray, it's just like you didn't
Speaker 1: extend to your spine. You got rid of the other
Speaker 1: part that if you couldn't do sit ups before, you're
Speaker 1: not like doing them better because your ribs are smaller, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not the issue here, bro. So that would be
Speaker 1: funny if you just saw a dude with like a
Speaker 1: fourteen pack. It's like, oh, I got I got my
Speaker 1: ribs removed, our river removed, and now I'm super buffin
Speaker 1: stay wet, don't matter who's sucking it. I got my
Speaker 1: dick wet. It's so sad. So So anyways, as I
Speaker 1: was saying about tracing the threat, the only thing I
Speaker 1: can truly truly think of is that they are both
Speaker 1: phenomenal performers and dancers and are like for the sadly
Speaker 1: for the sierra of it all is that she, especially
Speaker 1: at the time, was so toned and so like, you know,
Speaker 1: like because there's the thing. It's like, Jenna Jackson was
Speaker 1: that toned, Angela Bassett was that toned, and like those
Speaker 1: conversations never came up. But I just think that they
Speaker 1: were already in like they were already in the world. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, to your point, it wasn't just that
Speaker 1: she was toned. She also was like hanging out with
Speaker 1: bow Wow, So she was taller than that's right, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, this big, strong, tall lady and
Speaker 1: she's not even that tall, but at the at the
Speaker 1: time it was five seven, she was like six eight
Speaker 1: and muscular, and so a bunch of high school kids
Speaker 1: were like, this bitch got a penis, which is like
Speaker 1: so so like because it actually it spotlighted on us
Speaker 1: shore and then went to see you. And it was
Speaker 1: just it was one of those things again that like
Speaker 1: the usher of it all never made sense other than
Speaker 1: I think my theory. You know, I went to very
Speaker 1: on to very hood schools till till high school, and
Speaker 1: uh so there's like all like middle school stuff, and
Speaker 1: it was truly it just felt like one dude hated
Speaker 1: that his girl like that, and he just told everyone
Speaker 1: that he was half girl, which is so crazy, but
Speaker 1: already gotta pussy on his hid, so fu him because
Speaker 1: that's also the other thing that like was so especially
Speaker 1: as you you know, get older and learn about people's bodies,
Speaker 1: but like the thing that they used to always throw
Speaker 1: around and be like, actually the clip is a penis.
Speaker 1: Actually what his penis was a click and Sierra's clip
Speaker 1: is a penis, and you're like, what is where to God,
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's true, and you're like it can't
Speaker 1: be okay, but at you know, at sixth grade. You know,
Speaker 1: in the sixth grade, you're like, oh my god, right,
Speaker 1: your whole world, your whole world is crumbling. And then
Speaker 1: you're thinking about the one crew drawing that they show
Speaker 1: you in textbooks and you're like, well, it did kind
Speaker 1: of look like a tiny little dick and I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do, and you nailed it again. Because
Speaker 1: it's like this is also the rise of the Internet.
Speaker 1: Like this is when like the Internet first hit schools,
Speaker 1: and like there was no way to block anything, right,
Speaker 1: Teachers had no idea what like a fire wall was
Speaker 1: like you could just you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: And also it's like so much of the internet truly
Speaker 1: owes what it is to pornography, Like yeah, pornography built
Speaker 1: the Internet, and so because of that, you could find
Speaker 1: all that stuff easier. Like I remember, truly the first
Speaker 1: two things I ever saw online were a porno site
Speaker 1: and then cartoon network dot com pictures of Dexter's from
Speaker 1: Dexter's Lab that you could print out and color yourself.
Speaker 1: Those are the first and then the third thing I
Speaker 1: did was print out Bone Thugs and Harmony lyrics. I
Speaker 1: put them in a binder. I love that, I do love.
Speaker 1: I hope it happened exactly in that order. That first
Speaker 1: first you watched them porn. You came and then you
Speaker 1: came to your sense and you were like, you know
Speaker 1: what I that that was a line I need to color.
Speaker 1: I gotta color something. I love Dexter's Lab. I'm gonna color.
Speaker 1: I can't color without music. Who did I listen to?
Speaker 1: Of course Bone Thugs and harm And you sat there
Speaker 1: and you colored Dexter and you listen to Bone Thugs
Speaker 1: and you you let your your come soak into your pants. Well,
Speaker 1: here's this is even sadder. Thing looked that point is
Speaker 1: at the school library. It looked at moren then got
Speaker 1: scared and then downloaded the Dexter's Lab thing and then printed,
Speaker 1: but then went home and then you know, thought about
Speaker 1: porn clearly, right, So the Dexter's Lab was more sort
Speaker 1: of like to cover up your your tracks, right right?
Speaker 1: I just because I remember I didn't know what the
Speaker 1: internet was, and I saw this commercial that was like
Speaker 1: go to cartoon network dot com and download a picture
Speaker 1: of Dexter, and I was like, what I gotta do that.
Speaker 1: If the TV's telling me to do it, I'm taking Nexter.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do. I totally agree. I do
Speaker 1: think that so much of this came out in an
Speaker 1: era where there were no The Internet was sort of
Speaker 1: like the wild West. It was like Deadwood almost, just
Speaker 1: like a lawless town without any organization, and there was
Speaker 1: nobody to fact check anything, Whereas now, if some sort
Speaker 1: of conspiracy like this were to come forward, it would
Speaker 1: be immediately at least refuted, if not fully dismissed. There'd
Speaker 1: be a hundred people being like, no, shut the funk up,
Speaker 1: that's not true. Here's proof of that thing. But we
Speaker 1: were kids and they were just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: you gotta dick under there, and we're like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I actually didn't know, because truly, back in
Speaker 1: the day, like someone telling you something was equal to books.
Speaker 1: This presentation. I would like to cite Steve. Steve told
Speaker 1: me that if you turn to Steve first eight, he
Speaker 1: mentioned you know what I'm saying, someone could just be
Speaker 1: like because I mean truly, like if you were in
Speaker 1: a classroom and someone ran in and said, like someone
Speaker 1: bombed the CNN center down down unless you like got
Speaker 1: to the news immediately you just because also most people
Speaker 1: back in the day didn't lie about stuff like that
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know what I'm saying, people,
Speaker 1: I mean, people clearly lied about like assurance, SIRA being intersecting, like,
Speaker 1: but like mostly people, it's just like news was news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there wasn't as much of a trend of like doing
Speaker 1: it for the trolling wasn't the same thing. You were
Speaker 1: actually actually crazy if you were doing something like that.
Speaker 1: And now it's a little more of a gray area
Speaker 1: where it's like you either are crazy or you're the
Speaker 1: funniest motherfucker I've ever met in my life. I don't
Speaker 1: always know which one. Yeah, So like when someone told
Speaker 1: you something, you were just like all right. I mean
Speaker 1: because it's also if you think about it's probably low key.
Speaker 1: How like every religion started, it was just something being
Speaker 1: like this is what happened. You went all right, okay,
Speaker 1: so follow you. Hey, y'all, Hey, Steve said some stuff,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna follow him. I'll cite him occasionally if
Speaker 1: that'll help the group. I didn't have to ask is
Speaker 1: it a long line of Steve's or is it one
Speaker 1: Steve who's been eternal. I like to think it's a
Speaker 1: generational thing. Steve and then Steve the junior and Steve
Speaker 1: the first and go down the line. All right, I
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, all right, We're gonna take a break
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back more. Yes, more. My mama
Speaker 1: told me we are back. Ye. Anyway, so we're back, baby.
Speaker 1: We are back here with Mori Yaza Lesser and we
Speaker 1: are still talking about the history of the sex of
Speaker 1: both Usher and Sierra and where that all comes from.
Speaker 1: This is the question I wanted to ask, did at
Speaker 1: any point, Well, first of all, who specifically do you
Speaker 1: remember telling you this? Or is there a person specifically?
Speaker 1: Like a group of dudes, but I'll be gladly to
Speaker 1: say all named names. So they also here's the thing,
Speaker 1: and I this is like such a weird detail to remember.
Speaker 1: It was all the tallest dudes in my grade. So
Speaker 1: it was like it was all the dudes who were like,
Speaker 1: you know, five, ten and sixth grade. One of them
Speaker 1: was named I swear to guy, his name was Britain,
Speaker 1: but it was b R I T T O N
Speaker 1: and like he only wore he was just like it
Speaker 1: was crazy because he wasn't particularly good looking, but he
Speaker 1: was just like so fresh, Like he was always like
Speaker 1: I don't know if this made it to Chicago, but
Speaker 1: just always like an Apollo and like some like Tommy
Speaker 1: Hill figure like Carpenter Gene like some rebox. He was
Speaker 1: just always losty like that. Then there was this other dude, Timmy,
Speaker 1: who like less fresh wrong. They were like trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out, but he was he was like six three,
Speaker 1: Like they were trying to figure out how to have
Speaker 1: him play for like the high school team in sixth grade,
Speaker 1: likes like crazy. They were trying to do that that
Speaker 1: thing that people do with like Dominican kids, right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: truly him up instead of bump him down like he's yeah.
Speaker 1: So it was it was Britain and Timmy and then
Speaker 1: the last dude was Edward and Edward I remember, like
Speaker 1: so Edwards was like so many weird. I'm gonna leave
Speaker 1: out the dude the last dude names because I don't
Speaker 1: want to put him on blast, like Edward's kind of
Speaker 1: Edwards cousin. The cousin's dad broke out of prison while
Speaker 1: you were all on school, Like we were at school
Speaker 1: and like a news bulletin came up and they were
Speaker 1: like so you know, like they like said a dude
Speaker 1: and the kid who it was like started crying and
Speaker 1: we were like, nigga, this is incredible, Like your dad
Speaker 1: got out of jail. Congratulations. Yeah, he's like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: the one that put him in. Oh God, to kill me.
Speaker 1: Why are y'all cheering? Please stop this? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that would have been worth it. But so then the
Speaker 1: last dude was Edward, and Edward was always wearing a
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller Indiana Pacers jersey. Those were the dudes they like,
Speaker 1: they're like Loki like mobbed on me, like just like
Speaker 1: rolled up on me and was just you know, ushers
Speaker 1: or her Ma Like I didn't I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, if you're telling me to tell
Speaker 1: people like you guys seem like cool dudes, I repeat yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: look man, I got no call him about repeating something
Speaker 1: that just heard from three people that barely talk to listen.
Speaker 1: I've be't figured myself out enough to feel confident to
Speaker 1: tell you know that's not true. So yeah, I'll go
Speaker 1: tell more people and will create a violent and dangerous
Speaker 1: atmosphere around this school and more so for people that
Speaker 1: are struggling with their inter sexuality. So thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for choosing me to be your mouth. Oh and
Speaker 1: then for high school, it was because that's when the
Speaker 1: Sierra thing was happening. Thank or maybe right before, but
Speaker 1: it had to have been mohomie Mark or mohomie Eugene
Speaker 1: because they were because they were most likely was Eugene,
Speaker 1: Like we all worked at McDonald's together, and uh, Eugene,
Speaker 1: like Mark was from Detroit, so he and he had
Speaker 1: like the older brother who rapped, and like we were
Speaker 1: always just like trying to get Mark. He was like
Speaker 1: varsity basketball freshman year high school. Like man, like Mark
Speaker 1: is doing it, you know what I'm saying. But like
Speaker 1: I was the weird kind of like art kid who
Speaker 1: was trying to be funny, and then Eugene was just
Speaker 1: like this spacey like weirdo. Anyway, so those are people
Speaker 1: that told me about it. And like again, like I'll
Speaker 1: say this, the Usher thing I fully believed. I just
Speaker 1: like fully believed it from the job. The Sierra thing, Right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating. I'm gonna jump in here because that that
Speaker 1: actually is really fascinating to me, because it wasn't one
Speaker 1: that I think that I heard when I was growing up.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I had heard a lot of speculation about
Speaker 1: his sexuality and Jim, but not a lot about like
Speaker 1: the possibility of him having you know, multiple sex sex organs.
Speaker 1: But I will say that it fits within a a
Speaker 1: world of theories that you know what I mean, or
Speaker 1: a type of theory that made perfect sense to me.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't me reading that and going get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. It was more like I could
Speaker 1: see that. I can see how we as kids would
Speaker 1: have accused him of being intersex or whatever. We you know,
Speaker 1: hurtful word we were back then. But even in you
Speaker 1: know us your no, you got a cybees ding dong.
Speaker 1: That's right. They fused together. Man, you don't want to
Speaker 1: tell nobody because he's say it helps his dancing. That's
Speaker 1: how he danced so good, because that's all that's part
Speaker 1: of it, which is so crazy that they were always
Speaker 1: but that's how he could do that so good. That's
Speaker 1: just like I'm sorry him having both like anyway, sorry, no,
Speaker 1: it helps him move his hips in a way that
Speaker 1: a man never should be able to. So crazy, But
Speaker 1: so with that most of the research that I attempted
Speaker 1: to dig up about this, there's not a lot about Usher.
Speaker 1: It just there isn't a lot, Whereas with Sierra, there's
Speaker 1: a ship toun of her literally having to go on interviews,
Speaker 1: multiple interviews, and deny the possibility that she's intersect And
Speaker 1: the worst part about it is, and I didn't realize
Speaker 1: this until I'm like digging all this stuff up, she
Speaker 1: was fucking seventeen. She was a child. This was a
Speaker 1: child being like ha ha ha, nah No, I'm not
Speaker 1: a boy and a girl mixed together, like y'all say
Speaker 1: over and over again. Anyway, here's my song good. He's
Speaker 1: about having sex with an adult man that was written
Speaker 1: by by an adult man, Jazzy. But here's what I'll
Speaker 1: say that I feel like, not to say that it's proven,
Speaker 1: but I feel like the part that we can take
Speaker 1: from this is that this is all the Usher thing
Speaker 1: is so infancy Internet that and then remember I was like,
Speaker 1: I think it was just the spotlight was taken from
Speaker 1: Usher then flashed on us. I think that I think
Speaker 1: that that's the through lines you can follow, is that like,
Speaker 1: as that rumor went on, they just attached it to
Speaker 1: whoever they could, and she just happened because I was like,
Speaker 1: what two thousand to two thousand, two thousand four is
Speaker 1: when she came out, And I think it was pretty
Speaker 1: immediate that people like this is not a traditional quote
Speaker 1: unquote traditional woman, whatever that means. I will say that
Speaker 1: even because I don't know enough, and because I felt
Speaker 1: like this is important, especially in terms of this subject,
Speaker 1: I wanted to dig up exactly why hermaphrodite is a
Speaker 1: problematic word, right, And so what I uncovered is that
Speaker 1: basically hermaphrodite is not actually a thing that happens in
Speaker 1: a human person. That here, hermaphrodite refers to a organism
Speaker 1: that's able to hold both genitals or like a male
Speaker 1: and female sex organ at the exact same time equally,
Speaker 1: which doesn't actually happen in humanity, right. Intersex people actually
Speaker 1: is more complicated than that, Like you said before, it
Speaker 1: like ranges from anything from like a person who has
Speaker 1: just like undefined genitals, a micro penis and enlarged clitterists.
Speaker 1: Labial fusion is one of the things undescended testicles or
Speaker 1: a labial mass which they you know, if they dug
Speaker 1: under their I guess they could find testicles underneath. So
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of ship that sounds like me, I
Speaker 1: personally connect with the labial man. Keep digging, keep digging,
Speaker 1: You're gonna find what you're looking for. So it's like
Speaker 1: all these why so that even the implication that like,
Speaker 1: these two people are sort of this same thing is
Speaker 1: like a super ignorant thing because they could be a
Speaker 1: million different kinds of intersex. But it's also like, and
Speaker 1: you know, there's two things that play. A it's a
Speaker 1: child learning the concept of what hermaphrodite is in terms
Speaker 1: of whatever attribute that is to to an animal or organism, right,
Speaker 1: learning that and then being reducing it to like, oh,
Speaker 1: that would be like if a dude had a dang
Speaker 1: dong and had a little and had a vagina, that
Speaker 1: would be And you're like, that's it could not be
Speaker 1: more wrong, Like that's what it is, right, teacher, I
Speaker 1: hear you, But I'm also I'm hearing what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and what I'm saying sound more like what I like
Speaker 1: to say, so I'm gonna go with it. So it's
Speaker 1: like you have that already at play, and then the
Speaker 1: concept that like and I'm not saying this would be
Speaker 1: funny that let's say the I don't know what the
Speaker 1: most common form of inter sexuality is, right, but let's
Speaker 1: just say we just take the most populous form of
Speaker 1: intersexuality is right, that two of them would make it
Speaker 1: as R and B stars dog, it's like such a
Speaker 1: crazy saying. So that's the other thing that Iron covered
Speaker 1: is that that intersex people only represent one point seven
Speaker 1: per cent of the population. So the fact that it's
Speaker 1: already impossible to make it to that little celebrity, but
Speaker 1: two of them would, under the dark the cloak of
Speaker 1: night make it to that level. And you a nigga
Speaker 1: who's on the internet coloring Dexter's lab pictures uncovers this
Speaker 1: truth about her is insane. It's white. Yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: but it makes me lacking. I'm just like, oh, just like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it was, if it's twenty and
Speaker 1: two thousand, two nine six. It's just like niggas have
Speaker 1: just been bored forever. We just needed something to talk about, anything,
Speaker 1: to talk about, anything other than learning that that little
Speaker 1: girl's got broad shoulders. Let's say that she's, uh, she's
Speaker 1: a man. Now. It's like now she's probably just growing
Speaker 1: into her body and also very talented at the exact
Speaker 1: same time, but also like and here's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like again, not to speak on I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak on traditional gender norms, but in the realm that
Speaker 1: we are existing right in a business to music business
Speaker 1: that relies on gender norms at the time, at the
Speaker 1: very least at the time, Sierra is just because she
Speaker 1: has nice shoulders. She's one of the most hyper feminine
Speaker 1: people who's ever list sure, like outside of like wearing
Speaker 1: a white blazer, it's like a very dude, he's a
Speaker 1: buff man. Yeah, It's like so crazy that we've picked
Speaker 1: truly like the the ends of the spectrum for a
Speaker 1: hyper femininity and masculinity, and we're like, both of them
Speaker 1: have both parts. Next questions. If anything, if we needed
Speaker 1: a starting point at our most ignorant level, we could
Speaker 1: have said RuPaul, who already was playing the line. But
Speaker 1: instead we were like, who's that motherfucker that that looks
Speaker 1: like a man and talks like a man and dances
Speaker 1: like a man. That's a lady. It's like, do you
Speaker 1: do why I think I said he's part lady? Next question? Okay,
Speaker 1: but stop prowling at me when said it. She part man,
Speaker 1: you heard what I said, put the record all told
Speaker 1: me when she talked about Roland Nigga's left, you know,
Speaker 1: sound part nig and the way she's saying that. So
Speaker 1: one of the things that I think is hugely fascinating
Speaker 1: from this whole thing. And like I said, Sierra, So
Speaker 1: with part of the Sierra argument was that number one
Speaker 1: that the claim and maybe you heard this, was that
Speaker 1: not only was she intersex, but that she had announced
Speaker 1: it on the Oprah Winfrey Show. That there was like
Speaker 1: this hidden episode where like Sierra had come out and
Speaker 1: like said like, hey, Oprah, I am in a an
Speaker 1: intersex person and this is my truth. The episode does
Speaker 1: not exist, but everyone claimed to have seen this episode,
Speaker 1: and everything that I uncovered was like a bunch of
Speaker 1: people being like, yeah, my cousin said he saw the episode.
Speaker 1: It was wild, it was crazy. It's like, get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. Because that's also a holdover from
Speaker 1: pre internet, is that it was because that's also the
Speaker 1: Tommy hill Figure thing. Remember that exactly what I thought about. Yes,
Speaker 1: they were like and then Tommy hill Man, Tommy hill
Speaker 1: Figure went on the Open with Your show. He said
Speaker 1: he was niggas never wear his clothes. Everyone. He said,
Speaker 1: if he's a nigger and his James Hill shoot him
Speaker 1: in the street. It's like, Tommy Hilliger never said that.
Speaker 1: But you're also like the dude who's first and only
Speaker 1: model for a very long time was Aliyah Aliah is
Speaker 1: literally responsible for the successful Tommy Hill figure. But like,
Speaker 1: it's just so weird that we can say back in
Speaker 1: the day, you could say anything and be like, what happened, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: it is on Oprah, And maybe that's why she's an
Speaker 1: op Yes, Oprah let a bunch of I love this,
Speaker 1: Oprah let a bunch of bullshit ride because she wanted
Speaker 1: more ratings and more attention, and she was willing to
Speaker 1: let the black community tank itself for the sake of
Speaker 1: entertaining white people and letting her fake stories sort of
Speaker 1: circulate to make herself more popular in the white community.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, now that we're on this, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. Oprah probably started all this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every hey tell him Tommy Hill was just on the show,
Speaker 1: and that's the era that she got a ding dong
Speaker 1: hiding in the past. Make sure you mentioned the Oprah
Speaker 1: Winfrey Show every Tuesday at eight m. Because it's also
Speaker 1: like I'll say this, like Oprah had wild moments right,
Speaker 1: like she had the clan on and like you know
Speaker 1: there was ship just to that bigger moments, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't Jerry Springer or Jenny Jones. Like the chances that
Speaker 1: two major things happening on her show and no one song,
Speaker 1: it wasn't at least news. That's the thing that we
Speaker 1: just we just forgo or four went to the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that was just like well, you know, he
Speaker 1: said that he's knows someone who saw it, and it's
Speaker 1: just like like we all wouldn't. Everything else made it
Speaker 1: to us, right like any other Like the Mark Ferman
Speaker 1: tapes made it to us, like so many things, so
Speaker 1: many things that that was a home video shot in
Speaker 1: the dark in nineteen what whatever it was. There's a
Speaker 1: reason that all these things make it to us, and
Speaker 1: it's because they existed, not because like there's some secret
Speaker 1: conspiracy not to show us the Lost Sierra tapes. God,
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish I was better at deep fakes,
Speaker 1: because it would be funny to just do deep fakes
Speaker 1: of Tommy Hill figure on Oprah and Sierra on Oprah
Speaker 1: making their little announcements. I found them. I found that.
Speaker 1: Everybody said they weren't real, but I found the tape
Speaker 1: that's so funny, so okay with the Usher one one
Speaker 1: of the more fascinating parts of that, because like I said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't finding a lot of information about any accusations
Speaker 1: about him being intersex, and even accusations feels like a
Speaker 1: weird turn in this case, because it's, yeah, sure you're
Speaker 1: a smarter man than I am, the right words, but
Speaker 1: so it all, as far as I could tell, and
Speaker 1: this was my own digging. As far as I can tell,
Speaker 1: most of the accusation or sort of like criminalization of
Speaker 1: Usher came out of exactly what you said, which is,
Speaker 1: this is a dude who sexier than me, and I
Speaker 1: don't like how that feels, so I'm going to undermine it.
Speaker 1: And then in two thousand and ten, he does that
Speaker 1: song with Nicki Minaj a Little Freak. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know the lyrics. Of course, to back uh, he talks
Speaker 1: about being bisexual. It certainly like hanging out with bisexual
Speaker 1: people and like group sex and that whole thing. And
Speaker 1: in an interview afterwards with MTV. They asked him, like
Speaker 1: a Usher, are you into group sex now? And he's
Speaker 1: like His response was basically like, you know, I get
Speaker 1: into it from time to time. I like hanging out
Speaker 1: with bisexual people. And that's when the Internet is like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker up to something he ain't. Oh he he
Speaker 1: on some dirty, nasty, filthy ship, which I think then
Speaker 1: spawns because of our homophobia and transphobia and all the phobias.
Speaker 1: It moves into Oh he's got multiple like sex organs
Speaker 1: and his body kind of thing. It's crazy, I mean.
Speaker 1: And here's what I'll say. Granted the news didn't hit until, like,
Speaker 1: you know, four years ago or something, but if we
Speaker 1: had known Usher was getting all them poor ladies sick
Speaker 1: back the day, there's no way we would have assumed
Speaker 1: he was intersex. Like he's just not. He's just given.
Speaker 1: He's given every woman he needs herpes what you What
Speaker 1: we would have accused him of was being a bad guy,
Speaker 1: and then that would have been the excuse for why
Speaker 1: our girls shouldn't have sex with him. It's like, not,
Speaker 1: you don't want to fun Usher, he's a bad person.
Speaker 1: You want to, You want to your skin to turn green,
Speaker 1: he's got diseases. Girl, girl, stick with me. I can't
Speaker 1: move walk sideways, but I'm pretty good. Look, I can't
Speaker 1: move walk sideways, but I promise you'll get home safe
Speaker 1: and healthy. You won't cough tomorrow. So I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought that up because in two thousand seventeen, just for
Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't know, Usher got sued for twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars because a woman and then three people after that
Speaker 1: accused him of giving them herpies without notifying them ahead
Speaker 1: of time, that he knowingly gave them herpes and didn't
Speaker 1: tell them, which is a crime. Which they never proved
Speaker 1: that he had herpies or that they had herpies. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think that one of the women they proved she
Speaker 1: did not in fact have her pies, but was just
Speaker 1: saying it and letting it ride. But I didn't realize this,
Speaker 1: and this is a very fascinating element of it, is
Speaker 1: that one of the accusers of the four was a man.
Speaker 1: Had no idea. Really, yeah, there was a dude in
Speaker 1: that group, and he never revealed his name or his identity.
Speaker 1: He went by John Doe, as they do in you know,
Speaker 1: court cases where you don't want to keep your identity secret.
Speaker 1: And so I think that that just added to like
Speaker 1: sort of this weird dance of like what the funk
Speaker 1: is going on with Usher? And so there's all these
Speaker 1: different historical moments that people refer to when they talk
Speaker 1: about Usher sexuality. For example, his ex wife to make
Speaker 1: a Foster in two eleven tweeted after their breakup that
Speaker 1: gay men, quote unquote gay men who look and act
Speaker 1: straight should identify themselves with bright wrist bands, which who boy,
Speaker 1: I hate when I hear an idea that I had.
Speaker 1: She was like, clearly, you're tripping. This is wild. That
Speaker 1: is so fun. It's just like also like you know,
Speaker 1: the Holocaust to happen. Yeah, that like we just as
Speaker 1: a species, we shouldn't do things to identify different Just
Speaker 1: leave it alone. You just gonna have to guess. And
Speaker 1: you know, there was a small part of her that
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not putting patches on their shoulder,
Speaker 1: I'm just wristbands tattooing them. I just want a wristband
Speaker 1: so that they don't trick me. But that's why I
Speaker 1: don't like the logic of it, because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to get offs a wristband, like you
Speaker 1: just cut them off like the gay Like these secret
Speaker 1: gay agents aren't just able to take the wristband off
Speaker 1: in the morning after a nice shower, Like what are
Speaker 1: you talking about to make a well Also just like
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't I don't want the world
Speaker 1: to know I'm gay or bisexual, but I gotta put
Speaker 1: all my wristband. You know. That's what Tomka says. You know,
Speaker 1: Tamka Foster Usher's ex wife. So but see, that was
Speaker 1: another thing that I remember pointed to about the conspiracy
Speaker 1: of us was just not even the intersex thing, but
Speaker 1: of his sexuality. It's because Tamika was older than him
Speaker 1: by like ten years or something, and people are like,
Speaker 1: no man loves a woman years older than him unless
Speaker 1: he gay. You're like, are you sure? Like every time
Speaker 1: everybody like someone older than him he gave something wrong
Speaker 1: with his brain would be like a woman that old,
Speaker 1: look at it, what is she in our mid to
Speaker 1: late thirties, She's done. It's so sad, okay, So that
Speaker 1: that happens. Then in two thousand thirteen, I believe it is.
Speaker 1: Did he does an interview where it's one of Diddy's parties,
Speaker 1: and this is one of those where he starts videotaping
Speaker 1: the parties and he has Kevin Hart hosting this party
Speaker 1: and he's interviewing with Kevin Harden. Usher walks into the
Speaker 1: building and he's so happy to see Usher, and he
Speaker 1: starts talking to Kevin on the microphone with Usher and
Speaker 1: he says out loud in the interview, he says, I
Speaker 1: love this this dude, he's my bro. We used to
Speaker 1: wake up together, I mean damn. Pause. And then everybody
Speaker 1: just started laughing because Diddy had implied that him and
Speaker 1: Usher used to sleep in a bed together as partners.
Speaker 1: That one's that's hard. That's a stretch for me a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's it's not evidence of anything, right, because
Speaker 1: I would just assume it was just like even my
Speaker 1: head went to, oh yeah, like a hard night of
Speaker 1: party and you wake up and it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's Diddy over there. Like I didn't. It's like he
Speaker 1: was like and then I woke up to the soft,
Speaker 1: the soft woreth of his breath on my neck I mean,
Speaker 1: damn pause. And then Usher he used to kiss me
Speaker 1: real slow, and he would say good morning, Papa, and
Speaker 1: I would say hey, uh oh, damn, you caught me,
Speaker 1: Kevin Harsh just like, okay, naive, where are you all right?
Speaker 1: Get over here, I'm a tweet about this and get
Speaker 1: in trouble to how about how about a smash the
Speaker 1: dollhouse over both y'alls? Hey, okay? And then the last one.
Speaker 1: And this is this is one of my favorites. Is
Speaker 1: that in they as Jenny McCarthy, of all people in
Speaker 1: an interview, why are they interviewing Jenny McCarthy. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Why are they asking her questions about Usher?
Speaker 1: Even less clear, but in an interview with Jenny McCarthy,
Speaker 1: she was asked if she thinks Usher is attractive to
Speaker 1: what she responded by saying, is he for sure? Straight?
Speaker 1: Is he by? I think he's hot? I would definitely
Speaker 1: be interested. I would have that unsure flag of which
Speaker 1: team he plays for. For real, guys that are really
Speaker 1: well kept like that and aren't really with that man
Speaker 1: need chicks. I tend to have a question mark because
Speaker 1: I remember and I don't. I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but I remember because I moved to l A in
Speaker 1: two thousand five, and that was like I was from
Speaker 1: Georgia whatever, But that was like the I feel like
Speaker 1: peak Zenith like quote unquote metro sexual movement, right, and
Speaker 1: the whole idea when you really, you know, reduce it
Speaker 1: to its core, was that like if you're a man
Speaker 1: and you shower, have a T shirt that ain't wrinkly,
Speaker 1: you half I'm sorry, what like if you got a
Speaker 1: haircut and the best we could have half you want
Speaker 1: of these half gay niggers running around got secrets? Motherfucker?
Speaker 1: Like like so because like that's like her saying that,
Speaker 1: And it's like, first of all, when we talk about
Speaker 1: problem with white women, it's like the woman who lied
Speaker 1: on Emmett Till and then Jenny McCarthy. She's like, it's right,
Speaker 1: they're the same to yeah, she I mean you fucking
Speaker 1: she did the vaccine. She's like one of the source
Speaker 1: materials all her. And the thing is that, like it
Speaker 1: was bad information and bad science coming from a blonde hair,
Speaker 1: blue eyed, white lady with big breast like who's already
Speaker 1: had some semblance of fame and who had a child
Speaker 1: that's afflicted not from the thing that she's saying, but
Speaker 1: because she can point to that every white person believed her,
Speaker 1: She's she is lit to your point, She is literally
Speaker 1: the most dangerous weapon that the white community could pull
Speaker 1: out in those circumstances. She is both victim and big,
Speaker 1: tittied and blonde. She can go crazy with whatever she
Speaker 1: wants to say, and she did. And so like the
Speaker 1: idea that like some one who is so not just
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of history, but just like actually
Speaker 1: in their soul and then their atoms is incorrect, Like
Speaker 1: she's not. She's not built the way a human is built,
Speaker 1: in the sense that like, I feel like her molecular
Speaker 1: polarity spends opposite of us, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like you're so wrong on everything. And
Speaker 1: so it's like the fact that she went on TV
Speaker 1: again using the weapon of blue eyes and breasts and
Speaker 1: blonde hair to be like, oh he must be. Then
Speaker 1: of course everyone's gonna now is going to question it,
Speaker 1: and she made it popular in a way that it
Speaker 1: should and ending it with he's too well kept, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well I think we agree Jenny McCartney is
Speaker 1: uh spawn of Satan, And yes, yes we do. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take another break and then we'll be back with more.
Speaker 1: And my mama told me we are back yeah, ah,
Speaker 1: we are back here. Oh that is I mean, sincerely,
Speaker 1: in in the grand scheme of heartbreaking things to have
Speaker 1: ever happened, I don't think there's ever a point where
Speaker 1: I got to enjoy it the way other people did.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, oh, I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this young king has to do this, you
Speaker 1: know what. And I feel bad about it now, but
Speaker 1: I legitimately thought it was the funniest thing I had
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. And then other people had
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, you know that's not good, right,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's he's really gonna struggle for the
Speaker 1: rest of his life because of what he just announced
Speaker 1: him from of five thousand people at a church. I
Speaker 1: was like, Nope, this Nigga's hilarious. Here's what I'll say,
Speaker 1: because to pretend that I didn't laugh, Like I was
Speaker 1: pretty on board with, like, yo, like this is heartbreaking
Speaker 1: until he went women women, women, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do that. Bar Well, he's a showman,
Speaker 1: show so good. I still check in on him on Instagram. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just got in that fight with the lady at
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter around He's still working. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will say I appreciate him in the sense that he's
Speaker 1: just like he's not like what's her name, bad baby
Speaker 1: or whatever, or it's just like you try to like
Speaker 1: make a whole new career or whatever. Do like but
Speaker 1: I do like that. He's like, y'all not gonna forget
Speaker 1: about me, right, you know. He's like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: keep being myself. But now I get what myself is,
Speaker 1: Whereas I totally agree. I the bad babies of the
Speaker 1: world are like a gross human being who then tried
Speaker 1: to did a bad thing and then tried to manipulate
Speaker 1: that bad thing into a completely different career that you
Speaker 1: didn't deserve and should not have. She's just like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep yelling at people and it'll be under
Speaker 1: different contexts and perhaps you'll like that. Good for him.
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Speaker 1: It's called Langston's sister Jia, who's ten years old, describes
Speaker 1: new conspiracy theory she uncovers on tiktoki. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is how it works. I'm gonna play you some audio
Speaker 1: clips of my sister explaining a conspiracy theory to me,
Speaker 1: and I just like for us to unpack exactly what
Speaker 1: she's talking about, what is she what she's stressing about,
Speaker 1: And keep in mind she is genuinely afraid of what's
Speaker 1: happening in these clips. She is not at all doing
Speaker 1: this for a prank or for some silliness. She is
Speaker 1: ten and she means it. Okay, here we go. Okay.
Speaker 1: So by thing about Chuck E Cheese is that I
Speaker 1: don't trust nobody more. I've heard too many stories about them.
Speaker 1: They're basically as saying that as a strike of midnight,
Speaker 1: the robots get off there stands and start walking around
Speaker 1: seeking for children to eat or to just torture them.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, there your thoughts on the U. So
Speaker 1: I just have to be clear she's afraid that the
Speaker 1: plot of Toy Story and Mannequin U exists only at
Speaker 1: Chucky Cheese. Cheese is empty, strike closed, and so they
Speaker 1: just go around me like, oh, if there's a spare
Speaker 1: kid in here, we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna wait.
Speaker 1: It was either eat or torture or torture. It depends
Speaker 1: on the kid in the day, I guess, uh, and
Speaker 1: which mannequin I guess catches them or whatever. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yes, at the strike of midnight they come alive
Speaker 1: and they eat and or torture kids. Also, like, does
Speaker 1: she know that they've they've gone under chuck E Cheese? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she has no idea. She thinks that Chucky Cheese is
Speaker 1: the most thriving business of all time. As far as
Speaker 1: she's it's her favorite place. So she's like, nah, Chucky
Speaker 1: Cheese is dope, and I hate to find out. It's
Speaker 1: as if your favorite person got canceled for do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it's your hero going down.
Speaker 1: And she's like, funk, I love Chucky Cheese. But I'm
Speaker 1: hearing about these robots eating and kidnapping children. But again,
Speaker 1: like this is it's like the wayfaier thing that I
Speaker 1: want to like, as wanna hold your sister and be like,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be you that figured this out. You're
Speaker 1: not the one. And I will say that she's she's
Speaker 1: smart enough to know that she's not figuring out she
Speaker 1: but she doesn't know who to trust on the internet,
Speaker 1: so she, like us when we were kids, is just
Speaker 1: subscribing to these people who then tell her something wild.
Speaker 1: And she's like, hey, y'all, I got some bad news.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing from JELSEI thirty three that that they're kidnapping
Speaker 1: kids at Chuck E Cheese. I'm hearing from Chuck E
Speaker 1: Cheese hater that some wild things are happening at Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese. Why would he say, okay, just the last
Speaker 1: thing real quick. It's just like the idea that people
Speaker 1: still go yes like that. She's like, oh, I got
Speaker 1: you know, like I can't go. Other people go. But
Speaker 1: because you're done't think that stroke of midnight thing you
Speaker 1: gonna catch not today fail. Okay, I'm gonna play you
Speaker 1: some more, because she goes on to describe exactly because
Speaker 1: I was very curious, how is it that these people
Speaker 1: are are these Chucky Cheese robots are coming to life?
Speaker 1: And she explains that as well. They just found a
Speaker 1: man that was downstairs doing like spells and voodo on
Speaker 1: the robots for them to kidnap children. He was using
Speaker 1: a Luigi board plus he had like this circle and
Speaker 1: he was sit in the middle with candles, and it
Speaker 1: was very dark and spooky down there, and he would
Speaker 1: just sit in the middle and start doing his things. Ah,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you were going to bring robots
Speaker 1: to life, that is how you do ye. So she's
Speaker 1: not it seems as if this isn't a dig. It
Speaker 1: seems as if whoever told her the story, wherever she
Speaker 1: had it from, they didn't have the vocabulary for pentagram.
Speaker 1: Yet clearly that's what she's describing. They didn't know, they
Speaker 1: didn't know like the actual terms of witchcraft, so they
Speaker 1: were she was just like, yeah, they got a wegi
Speaker 1: board and some candles and a circle and a circle.
Speaker 1: So it's also like the other thing you want to
Speaker 1: say is that like usually for like the demons and
Speaker 1: like the Satanic you know, conjurors, it's like they're pretty efficient,
Speaker 1: Like they're not bringing Augi board and the pensigram like
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they it's usually one thing, like
Speaker 1: they either got like a pencilgram with like a book
Speaker 1: of spells, or they got like Augi board with like
Speaker 1: a book of spells. But like then maybe like you know,
Speaker 1: like a lock of hair or whatever. But like we
Speaker 1: just need her to know that's like overkill, like if
Speaker 1: you got to bring thick, your thick, your your method
Speaker 1: to whatever madness you're trying to create. Because the other
Speaker 1: question is is are they putting souls into the into
Speaker 1: the robots? Is that what she thinks is happening. Is
Speaker 1: that how they're transferring souls from hell or they're just
Speaker 1: bringing them to life and they're just bloodthirsty. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just think that she thinks there just they become become alive.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the concept of like the transference
Speaker 1: of a soul is even that's a little too sophisticated
Speaker 1: for so for her, it's just like they are not alive,
Speaker 1: and then a man in a basement makes them alive,
Speaker 1: and then they seek out children to eat and or torture.
Speaker 1: Got you all right? Cool? All right? I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: you the last clip, and this one, I think is
Speaker 1: when she explains the Chucky Cheese employees handle what's happening
Speaker 1: with these kidnappings and these robots. Oh wait, so the
Speaker 1: way the Chucky Cheese people are aware of it, just
Speaker 1: real quick they are. In fact, she'll she'll explain it
Speaker 1: all okay, perfect, Well really, there was another person who
Speaker 1: found an article about how it said that the workers
Speaker 1: when it turns midnight, they have to go put it
Speaker 1: on like a little cute, chucky cheese outfit, because if
Speaker 1: one of the robots sees you working there and it's midnight,
Speaker 1: they're basically come and hurt you or murder you. But
Speaker 1: if you wear the costume, they'll think you're one of them,
Speaker 1: so they won't attack you. And what they're attacking you
Speaker 1: for is they think you're like a robber or someone
Speaker 1: that's trying to mess with the play store. And when
Speaker 1: you walk up towards one of them, they always look
Speaker 1: down at you because there's a hidden camera, I guess
Speaker 1: in one of their bodies, so they can scan you
Speaker 1: whatever to make sure you're not guilty of anything. Does
Speaker 1: that make sure you're not guilty of anything? I? First
Speaker 1: of all, this is she is adorable in a way
Speaker 1: that like that is so cute, and it's like I
Speaker 1: just haven't heard a child talk earnestly in such a
Speaker 1: long time, Like it's so sweet to hear even though
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, oh it's haunting. I'm not able
Speaker 1: to get her to stop believing me. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: real cute that she thinks it's real. But okay, because
Speaker 1: I also the other thing to ask her is, at
Speaker 1: this point, everyone knows at midnight the robots come back.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows there there apparently have been articles written and
Speaker 1: it's not in these clips. But she also explains that
Speaker 1: the part of how they uncovered it was they found
Speaker 1: fingerprints of children on the windows leading towards the basement,
Speaker 1: unrelated to the fingerprints they might find of children any
Speaker 1: other time it checked on a slide at a booth.
Speaker 1: These were apparently clearly kidnapped fingerprints. That's opposed to other thing.
Speaker 1: So there's also windows in the basement. I guess, so
Speaker 1: I don't. Hey, I'm just a reporter here, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, thank you number one for bringing us to
Speaker 1: light in a way that I never would have guessed.
Speaker 1: Because the thing that's funny to me is that now
Speaker 1: the robots are sophisticated enough to like have cameras that
Speaker 1: full body scans to know if you are like one
Speaker 1: of them or not. But also if you just dress
Speaker 1: like them. The technology it can't penetrate the costume. They
Speaker 1: just can't tell the difference between but last thing, they
Speaker 1: they eat and torture children, but they also defend the
Speaker 1: place from robbers. Right, y'all got a weird moral code
Speaker 1: here and chuck e cheese. You're like, wow, it really
Speaker 1: is all shades of gray. Like, listen, we'll kill a child,
Speaker 1: but we will not let you steal our pizza recipe.
Speaker 1: That is, unto my friends, is why we will defend.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, that's so funny, And this is apparently
Speaker 1: circulating all over TikTok and uh specifically for you know,
Speaker 1: in the network of kids who otherwise should just be
Speaker 1: watching dances and weird things. Yeah, which is the scariest part.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you think that your little sister
Speaker 1: is on the internet watching people learn to like do
Speaker 1: the Savage dance, and secretly she's learning about murders and mayhem.
Speaker 1: But what I will say for right now, luckily, is
Speaker 1: that it's attributed to a business, which is hard. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, most part, it is just a
Speaker 1: ghost story. Like it ain't pizza gate, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, well, that makes a different kind of
Speaker 1: pizza gate. But well that that is the that is
Speaker 1: a slightly endearing part is that essentially what she is
Speaker 1: doing is pizza Gate, but for kids. And so the
Speaker 1: daring part of it is that like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: an attached to a real person who then becomes criminalized
Speaker 1: and now we have to spend the next twenty years
Speaker 1: trying to unpack for other real people. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like this fictional character that she thinks comes to life.
Speaker 1: That's harmless in the grand scheme of conspiracy theories. Yeah, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but I I just because to me, like I think
Speaker 1: that like so much of growing up weirdly is that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like so it's like again,
Speaker 1: it's like the Usher Sierra thing. It's like you know
Speaker 1: how they say, like babies see more. They see more
Speaker 1: things because they don't have language to dictate the things
Speaker 1: that they see, and they don't see Wow, I hadn't
Speaker 1: heard that. You haven't. Yeah, it's like a really interesting thing.
Speaker 1: So I'll do a quick example, real quick. But they
Speaker 1: have this thing called the green dot test, right, and
Speaker 1: so they take a village, you know, let's say in Brazil, right,
Speaker 1: I forget where it is exactly. They have like over
Speaker 1: forty words for the word green because that's how nuance
Speaker 1: they see. So they give them a chart with nine
Speaker 1: green dots and one is off by like point zero
Speaker 1: one of a hue, right, and say which one is different,
Speaker 1: and they can point to the one that's different every time.
Speaker 1: But this same the same village or a group of
Speaker 1: people don't have a word for the color blue. So
Speaker 1: when you hand them the chart with the same chart
Speaker 1: but one of the dots is blue and ask them
Speaker 1: which one is different, they physically can't see it. Their
Speaker 1: brain can't register it because they don't have the language
Speaker 1: for it. So if you do it to someone like us,
Speaker 1: who has the word blue, but we don't have the
Speaker 1: nuance of the color green, we we fail the same test,
Speaker 1: but in opposite So that's why they say like babies
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. So I want to say all
Speaker 1: that that it's like to the usher thing, the Sierra thing,
Speaker 1: even to the like the thing with your sister, it's
Speaker 1: like we're all weirdly trying to define a world through
Speaker 1: the prism of like a very limited language. Right, So
Speaker 1: because like, well she's actually talking about it's just like
Speaker 1: the greater fears of like probably technology of like an
Speaker 1: unknown world, and like what does that mean, what is
Speaker 1: what you know? Like, what is the idea of murder
Speaker 1: and torture? All these words that she hears, but she
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily understand the concept of them. Man. And it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with like the Usher thing and the
Speaker 1: Sierra thing is like not understanding that like sexuality, gender,
Speaker 1: all that stuff is fluid and isn't binary, and like
Speaker 1: you know, flows in very different ways, and because you
Speaker 1: don't have the way to define them that you kind
Speaker 1: of just like start inventing things. Yeah, to your point,
Speaker 1: I think it's just us trying to bring everything closer
Speaker 1: to ourselves, and we do it in sort of like difficult,
Speaker 1: ignorant ways sometimes, but it's not always malicious. It's just like,
Speaker 1: this is the only way I can begin to understand
Speaker 1: the world or the feelings I'm having is to express fear,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how to articulate what the real
Speaker 1: fear is. So there's motherfucker's in chucky cheese basement trying
Speaker 1: to kill I'll start there and then you know, the
Speaker 1: out to be clear, the usher here, I think like
Speaker 1: that we can't. We can't. We're not copying that one
Speaker 1: to like childhood ignorance, like there was Brittain and Edward
Speaker 1: and Tim. Timmy hates you usuer. He thinks you're you're
Speaker 1: you got a vagina on your hip and he hates
Speaker 1: you and he'll never forgive you for what you did.
Speaker 1: That's where and that's where he keeping CDs and that's
Speaker 1: how he was handing him out. He would he had
Speaker 1: a little vagina on his hip and then he would
Speaker 1: keep the CDs in there on the tapes, and he
Speaker 1: pulled him out. And that's how l A that's how
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Speaker 1: because all his c d s, if he ever gave
Speaker 1: you one, they were a little wet. There was just
Speaker 1: a little bit wet, and you know because it was
Speaker 1: in that pussy pocket on his hip. All right, all right,
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