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Speaker 2: Let's get right into it, guys, let's talk college basketball

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Speaker 2: national title futures. The best price on the number one

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Speaker 2: team in the country is at win bet Kenzaga. You

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Speaker 2: will not find a better line than seven to one

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Speaker 2: out in the market. Kai, do you agree? Should they

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Speaker 2: be number one?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Jim, absolutely, And last year I think we saw

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Speaker 3: else not named Baylor. I think it's gonna be the

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Speaker 3: same way this year. They are by far the best

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Speaker 3: team in the country seven to one. Sure, I'll take

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Speaker 3: those odds, Matt. I'll sprink a little bit on the

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Speaker 3: national championship there. Yeah, Jim, I was looking at last

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Speaker 3: year's odds and they're not going off at you know,

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Speaker 3: the price here isn't all that different from last season.

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Speaker 3: Kind of have to contextualize in that way. How much

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think part of it too is how

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Speaker 3: Correct, Gemmy get pounds now they got the Longhorns come

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about it a lot of times, Jim,

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Speaker 3: They got better and they showed us basically a version

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Speaker 2: I don't have that crystal ball in front of me.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a team that all three of us

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Speaker 3: No, Rainer, to me, it's a team with depth, experienced talent,

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Speaker 3: This point, I'm still kind of wait and see. I

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Speaker 3: that matchup there. But before they go to against Zaga,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, sitting there at fifteen to one, other blue

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't get much from aj Griffin and didn't

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go a little further down the board

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Speaker 3: Matthew, I got a few. I think we agree on

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Speaker 3: for Oregon price of three thousand, thirty to one on

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Speaker 3: And when your bet national title features Kai, that's all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind the bet, Matthew. I am a

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Speaker 3: looking at Perdue at twenty to one, the tenth short

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no slight at Michigan. I view those teams similarly.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a price thing. A lot of futures

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Speaker 2: You know, if if you are like Matt and you

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Speaker 2: mister McEwan. I did just add a little Illinois myself. Recently.

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Speaker 2: I've been talked into the upside. I can't help it.

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Speaker 2: Not super proud of it, but all right, what doo

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Speaker 2: I have a future on Illinois and Kansas. As a Missoul,

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Speaker 2: There's no other type. I agree with Matt Tennessee fifty

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Speaker 3: If you're looking for like a longer shot, that's probably

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Speaker 2: Fifty one and up. Yeah, I love it. I like Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, maybe I'm overselling the upside with Louisville, but I watched.

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Speaker 3: But going back to Tennessee, we love exhibition overreactions. When

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Speaker 3: But Tennessee looks really good, and the questions with them

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Speaker 3: So I think Tennessee has a pretty high upside. Again,

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna throw three at you, guys. I

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Speaker 2: Got Auburn at sixty to one, Texas Tech at fifty

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Speaker 3: One Indiana, Oh, Indiana Indiana biass grad yep, discloser. I

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Speaker 3: am an IU alumnus. However, historically I've been fading I

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Speaker 3: just think IU has really high upside and from a

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Speaker 3: I think that Purdue Future is especially at when at

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Speaker 3: twenty to one is great, that's pretty much at fifteen

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Speaker 3: probably my favorite out of those three. Jim, I'll still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Auburn might have a top three front court in

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Speaker 3: Yes, pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a point last year where Michigan was ninety

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Speaker 3: Just one more note on Auburn. That's another team i'd

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Speaker 3: Their schedule is not in brucetrel never really doesn't exactly

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at forty one right now when Bett? Does

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Speaker 3: I just don't see the upside. I really don't. Turgent

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Speaker 3: Is being I'm a kind guy. I'm a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Every coach has a good quality, Jim. You just have

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Speaker 3: to frame it in the right light. That's what I'm

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Speaker 3: doing here.

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Speaker 1: Kai.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not a fan of Maryland from a long

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Speaker 3: term upside play here, I'm just I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: I really don't. I think Returns a solid coach. He's

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Speaker 3: better than people give him credit for. But he's not

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Speaker 3: that this is way too inflated. He's made six tournaments

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Speaker 3: in Maryland if you include twenty twenty. He's coached their

443
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Speaker 3: ten years. He's made one Sweet sixty in that time,

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Speaker 3: and they're mostly top five seats. So I agree, not

445
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Speaker 3: a great track record, small sample size seater in the

446
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Speaker 3: tournament for sure, But I agree with Matt, I don't

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Speaker 3: see the upside here from Maryland, especially forty to one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing I really liked with Maryland last

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Speaker 2: year was how switchable they were one through five. I

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Speaker 2: thought that made them hard to guard and hard to

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Speaker 2: prepare for in the same way that the Syracuse two

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Speaker 2: three zone does, the same way that Oregon's switching defenses do,

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Speaker 2: And Maryland doesn't have that anymore. They're more conventional that

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Speaker 2: They're just not as tricky to plan for in a

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Speaker 2: tournament setting. This year, I think, yeah, they lack the upside.

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Speaker 2: I'm not too interested in that forty to one. Guys,

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Speaker 2: any other prices or teams you want to talk about here,

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Speaker 2: Any super long shots that jumped out to you, Matt Kai,

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Speaker 2: either final four or national title. We can talk about

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Speaker 2: both of those. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I'll throw one more out here, but it's a final

462
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Speaker 3: four future. It's a dark horse BYU at fifty to one. Yes,

463
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Speaker 3: the final four is a very attractive bet. I am

464
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Speaker 3: much higher on BYU than the market appears to be.

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Speaker 3: But I know all three of us are huge Mark

466
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Speaker 3: Pope fans. This team could be just as good, if

467
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Speaker 3: not better than last year. We bring it on Honorile

468
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Speaker 3: mentioned American back in Barcelo and their front court Kleb

469
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Speaker 3: Lohner could be a star this season.

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Speaker 2: Matt, how do you feel about YU?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they have title upside, but I

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Speaker 3: know anything Mark Pope touches turns to gold. So this

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Speaker 3: is like I don't know buying Amazon or Apple, Like,

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Speaker 3: you just know it's going to go up, So buy

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Speaker 3: to get on one of those prop swap tipe sites

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Speaker 3: and sell it, this value of a ticket will appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a no brainer for me.

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Speaker 2: I have bad news. Kay, it's already down to twenty

480
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Speaker 2: five to one. Somebody really is wise to it. Yep,

481
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Speaker 2: that's a totle rich for me. Man, I'm gonna I'm

482
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Speaker 2: gonna throw one at you. See what you think. I

483
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Speaker 2: can't even properly say what the odds are two thousand

484
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Speaker 2: to one Milwaukee to make the Final four. What if

485
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Speaker 2: you get Pat Baldwin Junior into the Sweet sixteen, a

486
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Speaker 2: five star top ten player, and at those odds you

487
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Speaker 2: won't put two dollars on it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I guess what's because it's actually twenty you said twenty thousand.

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Speaker 2: To ten ten dollars to win twenty thousands.

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Speaker 3: To win twenty thousand, So you won't put two on that, sure,

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Speaker 3: I'll do.

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Speaker 2: It right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like that's a there's no way Milwaukee

494
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Speaker 3: gets anywhere past the second weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

496
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Speaker 3: Baldwin already has some injury concerns I think coming into

497
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Speaker 3: the year, so that concerns me. This feels like the

498
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Speaker 3: whole mccer mccurr thing of Howard, where it's the hype

499
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Speaker 3: just so.

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Speaker 2: Far over show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that's you hard a reach of the comparison,

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Speaker 3: like kind of a project. Baldwin Junior is actually star

503
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Speaker 3: still score. Yeah, and there is talent. It's not just

504
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Speaker 3: like balling on a bunch of nobodies. That team has

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Speaker 3: legit talent. It's just like they're coming from fringe top

506
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Speaker 3: two hundred. It's just such a quantum leak to make,

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Speaker 3: even with the guy of his talent, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: I can buy it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, if you put one dollar on that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: one dollar one thousand, that's fine. It's it's not the

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Speaker 2: worst thing in the world to be rooting for Pe.

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Speaker 3: We should be rounding out our right, we should be

513
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Speaker 3: rounding out our portfolios with some long shots as well.

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Speaker 3: We got the heavy hit we got the heavy hitters,

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Speaker 3: we got the twenty to forty you know, doubles, and

516
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Speaker 3: then we got these flyers.

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Speaker 2: It's all about diversifying, Matthew.

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Speaker 3: Diversification.

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Speaker 2: They told me one kind of I like that in

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Speaker 2: that regard is seventy five to one drake to make

521
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Speaker 2: the final four. A team that was awesome last year

522
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Speaker 2: just got better and better until they ran into the

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Speaker 2: injury bug. But unfortunately they didn't get to make the

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Speaker 2: run that they were hoping for. Without Roman Pen and

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Speaker 2: a limited tank Hemphill so many players back, though super

526
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Speaker 2: experienced team, the Valley could be good. They might even

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Speaker 2: have a chance at it that large this year. That's

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Speaker 2: that is one I am eyeing up potentially. Before we

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Speaker 2: This is an intriguing market here at win bet that

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Speaker 2: is not really available elsewhere, particularly because, guys, this includes

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Speaker 2: T if you make it, any game that a team

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Speaker 2: plays in. What are we looking at kai anything really

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Speaker 2: jump out to you that there are twenty five teams

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Speaker 2: offered here. It's not every team in the country, but

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Speaker 2: it's twenty five. Anyone you like in particular, Yeah, Jim,

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a tough market for me. I don't feel

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Speaker 3: like I have a good feel for it. You know,

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Speaker 3: we we tend to silo ourselves and embedting mindsets ats records,

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Speaker 3: not actual records, single single games. Yeah. Yeah, So I'll

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Speaker 3: be honest, this was kind of tough for me to evaluate.

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Speaker 3: But you know, looking through here, you you have a

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Speaker 3: handy dandy spreadsheet for Matt and I to look at

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Speaker 3: that includes kem poms projected win totals, Mark Torvick's projected

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Speaker 3: win totals, and am I in a couple Jim, I

571
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Speaker 3: think you've pointed a couple out as well. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with Memphis under thirty because I agree thirty wins for

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Speaker 3: this team seems very lofty. They're certainly talented, and yes,

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Speaker 3: best case snarer, they can get there, but I foresee

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Speaker 3: some trip ups, if not in a non con certainly

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Speaker 3: in the American Conference, especially to a team like Houston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken Pum has them projected for twenty three wins.

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Speaker 2: Then they would have to win three more in the

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Speaker 2: AAC Tournament and then four more in the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 2: make the final four. And that's just a push.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Penny's ever been to the instally tournament. You're

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Speaker 3: asking for a lot here.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, they've they've got a couple extra regular

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Speaker 2: season games from their MTE, so perhaps they could get

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Speaker 2: to twenty four to twenty five. But I mean that's

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Speaker 2: if you're buying this rosy outcome, this top fifteen team,

587
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Speaker 2: which Matt the talent is there, but there are playmaker questions,

588
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Speaker 2: there are ball handling questions, there are shot selection questions

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Speaker 2: that were not totally sold on yet. And they do

590
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Speaker 2: have a relatively difficult schedule. I mean, they got Virginia

591
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Speaker 2: Tech on neutral floor, Alabama at home Tennessee, and a

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Speaker 2: neutral that's all on the non con We don't know

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Speaker 2: how this young, kind of different dish assembly team will

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Speaker 2: will fare in a long conference schedule. So yeah, and

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Speaker 2: under thirty does stick out to me as well. I agree.

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Speaker 3: I had looked at the schedule. I was assuming we'd

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Speaker 3: see a bunch of cupcakes in the don kon given

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Speaker 3: this number, being so inflated. But you're right, the Virginia Tech, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: even Murray State, slew Western Kentucky all at home, those

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Speaker 3: are not Those are not cakewalks. So yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: a my probably my second parry bet Jim on the board,

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Speaker 3: I have another short for my favorite bets, which I

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Speaker 3: believe you also co sign. Breaks my heart to even

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Speaker 3: go against the same Bonnie's. But I'm sorry, where are

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Speaker 3: you getting twenty eight and a half wins from? Is

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Speaker 3: that the I'm just telling them twenty eight and a

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Speaker 3: half is the current price on win, which by the way,

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Speaker 3: shouts to win for offering the minus one point five

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Speaker 3: US on both sides a cheap and fair value for

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Speaker 3: these it's pretty simple. If they don't get a large berth,

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Speaker 3: that takes away the entire postseason tournament for them. So

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Speaker 3: like unlike these other teams that are probably safer bets

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Speaker 3: to make at large, to get at large bids and

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Speaker 3: have the upside to one, one or two games the tournament

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Speaker 3: to get the over the hump, the bondis to me,

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Speaker 3: are not like a foregone conclusion to get in that

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Speaker 3: large bit. I think they have to do some work

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Speaker 3: in the non con the A ten could be potentially down,

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Speaker 3: which could help them right if they they catch or

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Speaker 3: Slew in VC a little bit injured. But they do

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Speaker 3: have to play about Slew and VCU twice and they

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Speaker 3: only they only see.

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Speaker 2: Fourdam once, Richmond twice as well.

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Speaker 3: And Richmond twice as well, So the schedule doesn't really

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Speaker 3: work out all that favorly for a team that I

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Speaker 3: just feel like is coming into the year a little

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Speaker 3: bit overvalued again, coming off that awesome season last year,

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Speaker 3: which as we mentioned, we're not putting as much stock

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Speaker 3: in as much as we love them last year, I

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Speaker 3: just don't think it sets up for them to be

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves continuity and they bring five stars back and

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Speaker 2: that that has certainly inflated maybe some views of them.

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Speaker 2: Ken Pom has them projected at twenty two wins and

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Speaker 2: there are a couple more that they'll play in a

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Speaker 2: in a preseason tournament. But then yeah, you still have

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Speaker 2: to get three in the in the A ten tournament,

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Speaker 2: which is no losing car yep, and a couple more

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Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament or whichever postseason tournament they qualify for.

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Speaker 2: So that tricky kai. Do you agree with that? Are

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Speaker 2: you a little more unsure on the Bonnies? No?

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Speaker 3: I agree because there's land mines in the non con right,

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Speaker 3: you have Yukon Virginia Tech, which are toss up games.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably favor the other team. There's also Boise State,

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Speaker 3: there's Buffalo, there's Northern Iowa. All three of those teams

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Speaker 3: could beat Saint Bonnie this year. Not saying they will,

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Speaker 3: but it's certainly a possibility and way more chance that

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Speaker 3: I would be comfortable with betting out a twenty eight

649
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: and a half win total. That's nuts to me. You

650
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: basically you need them to go sixteen and two, seventeen

651
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: and one in the eight ten. I don't think that's

652
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: gonna happen. It's too tough of a conference.

653
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: They have to stay healthy.

654
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: Their benches in proof, so it's still a thin bench

655
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: and it's one shoon, ankle or knee twist away from

656
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: you know what you're looking, You know, with this team

657
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: looking a lot like they did prior to last season,

658
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 3: which is a mortal team, not like this juggernaut eight

659
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: ten monster.

660
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: How dare you even bring that mention into the world

661
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: that you go knock on every piece of wood in

662
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: your home. That's disgusting out of you.

663
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: Take it one step further, what seed are they going

664
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: to get in the install A tournament?

665
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: Right? I mean have a six to seven and.

666
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: That's as high as they'll possibly Yeah, exactly the recipe

667
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: for early exits there.

668
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: Yep, unless you are mega mega high and then going

669
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: on like a rampage in the regular season. It's it's

670
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: hard to see that the twenty eight and a half number.

671
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: I sort of like Florida State over twenty two and

672
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: a half guys. I think that is a fairly low number,

673
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: and it basically anticipates almost as zero postseason wins for

674
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: them because Ken Pump's got them around twenty for the

675
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: regular season. So if they get one or two in

676
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: the ACC Tournament and the NCAA Tournament, I feel pretty

677
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: decent about that. Matt. Any others that you like, I

678
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: had to get over just so we had something positive

679
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: to say about a team.

680
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Tennessee one. We talked about why

681
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: we like the Valls in general, so I won't beat

682
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: that into the ground. The other one is Ohio State.

683
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: Just in general, I feel like people are putting Ohio

684
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: State in a notch below the Michigan's, the Illinois and

685
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: the Produce. I think, at least I personally Ohio State.

686
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: You know, within an alligator arms reach from those teams,

687
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: they get Nebraska and Minnesota twice, and I think they

688
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: get Northwestern only once. Just looking at the conference schedule there,

689
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: it's one of the more undervalue team shim as you

690
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: pointed out on you in your spreadsheet here from an

691
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: analytic perspective in terms of the gap between what KEMPOM

692
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: projects what the actual number is.

693
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: EJ.

694
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Lidell will get to the player futures here at the

695
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: end of this program, but I think he's a great

696
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: bet to win Player of the Year. A lot of upside,

697
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people kind of putting in stock and

698
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: the losses from doing Washington Kai. I like the Bucks.

699
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: Chris Holtanon's a great coach guy who can win games

700
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: in March two. What's not to like? I don't mind

701
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: that Matt big Ten's is kind of it's such a

702
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: juggernaut of a conference, a blood bath. Ohio SI could

703
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: realistically go just over five hundred in that league, still

704
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: be a very very good team, but the win totals

705
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: is deflated. I do like Gym's Florida State take. I mean,

706
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't really buy the twelve and eight and kim

707
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: pomk they could finish better than that in the ACC

708
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: play and I agree they could get a game or

709
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: two in the AC tournament.

710
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're MTE. They play Loyal and Merrymount first, who

711
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: is good. But they should beat not on their current

712
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: ken Pom schedule, they should get either Missouri or SMU.

713
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: They should definitely also beat whichever one of those two.

714
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: So Florida State, yeah, I like that one, and right

715
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: in the same vein North Carolina in the ACC vastly,

716
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I would say, undervalued by ken Pom bart Torviks of

717
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: the world. Some people have them top fifteen or top twenty.

718
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: They're fortieth in ken Pom, so the win total projection

719
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: for them is relatively low, but again only twenty two

720
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: and a half here. If they do have a slightly

721
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: better than expected ACC run and then you get one

722
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: or two in a postseason tournament, boom, you already got it.

723
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: So the heels are also where I think the total

724
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: is just a tad low for them. Matt, does that

725
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: break your heart to hear me say something good about

726
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: North Carolina.

727
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm a Hubert Davis guide, Jim, so un C is

728
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: no longer on my rival shiit list. They're now on

729
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: my apathetic all their teams don't care about them list.

730
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: So I'm taking a prudent and objective lens to my

731
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: UNC dicks. That's night, Matthew, thank you, Yeah, Jim, I

732
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: agree you and C over looks good to me. I

733
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: want to talk real quick about Villanova if I may,

734
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: because there's their win total sitting at twenty six and

735
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 3: a half, and I think a decent proxy for this

736
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: team is twenty nineteen. That team won twenty six games.

737
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: It went thirteen to five in the Big East, won

738
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: the Big East Tournament, lost in the second round, still

739
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: got to twenty six wins. You look at this year's

740
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: Big East, much weaker, much weaker conference. There is a

741
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: very real scenario. Nova goes eighteen and two in this league,

742
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: seventeen and three, maybe even nineteen and one. Maybe not

743
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: go that far. They have six automatic non con wins

744
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: their schedule just it's not that great in those. In

745
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: those six games, they need to win two against Syracuse, Tennessee.

746
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: UC Laard Baylor tough to do or just have a

747
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: normal run in the Big East tournament and instead of

748
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: a tournament. I think that's a very very clear path

749
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: towards twenty six and a half wins. So I'd be

750
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: on Villanova over there, all.

751
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Right, kay, I'm using that as a perfect trend transition

752
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: point to conference regular season odds. We've only got the

753
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: ACC Big twelve, Big East, Big Ten, Pac twelve sec.

754
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: But Kai, I think Villanova to win the Big East

755
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: is a great value here. They are listed right now

756
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: plus one fifty. There are other places out there that

757
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: have them in the minus money region, like minus one

758
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: fifty is definitely a line that exists. So if you're

759
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: getting plus one fifty on Villanova, who is a clear

760
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: tier one favorite in that Big East, in our eyes

761
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: and in most people's eyes, that's really good value. Mister

762
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Cox can't speak that.

763
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Number two is Connecticut.

764
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: They're sitting at plus four hundred and Xavier plus six hundred.

765
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

766
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: I think the gap is fairly substantial, at least to me,

767
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: between Nova and Xavier. Yukon's a conundrum. We don't really

768
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: know how high their ceiling is this year, Jim. So

769
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: maybe if you're a big believer in mister Hurley and

770
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: that swarming length and physicality and the identity that they've built.

771
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 3: I just don't know they have enough offensive ammunition to

772
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: to stay with Nova for a whole season in the

773
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Big East race. So yeah, I think plus value Nova

774
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: is a no brainer.

775
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: But I agree, yep, it's especially compared to the market. Yeah.

776
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: Kai, There's only been one season in the current iteration

777
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: of the Big East, going back to like twenty fourteen,

778
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: in which Villanova hasn't at least shared a title in

779
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: the regular season, So yeah, Villanova is clearly the bet

780
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: here value wise gyms you want to get really nitty

781
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: gritty Big East, Saint John's plus two thousand prices the

782
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: eighth team in the Big East, which makes absolutely no

783
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: sense to me.

784
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: I got to yell that for ranking them fifth.

785
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: I know the good folks that win bet have no

786
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: faith in Saint John's. That's fine. I would why not

787
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: throw a couple bucks on them. I don't think they're

788
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: gonna win it, but can't beat the value there. I

789
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: took seat Paul as my non Nova hedge Kaile in

790
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: the Big East. That's my favorite pick. There does ten

791
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 3: to one for Send the Wall well instead of twenty

792
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: to one for Saint John's. Do you think Seaton Hall

793
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: is a better play like Hall a lot? I really do,

794
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: twice as much as Saint John's. Man, that's a good

795
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: point in that.

796
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: Yah. The upside. You know, if you're a kidardon can

797
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: buy like we are. We are Kadari Richmond buyers. We

798
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: are of the pirates here, guys. The other conference I

799
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: wanted to discuss, and mainly because it is you know,

800
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: there's no clear top dog in the odds here. It's

801
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: the sec here. It just means more. Kentucky is now

802
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: sitting at plus three hundred. That is your favorite, but

803
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: followed closely by Alabama five to one, Arkansas five to one,

804
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Auburn six to one, Tennessee six to one. Seems like

805
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: our friends that win. Bett just kind of shrugged here

806
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: and we're like, you know, we're not entirely sure. I

807
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: believe Kentucky was four to one relatively recently, so they

808
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: must have taken some money to knock that down. But

809
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: these are also somewhat better prices on the regular season

810
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: than you will find at other books. Matt, which one

811
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: do you like here? Are you going with Kentucky or

812
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: are you going with the Tennessee Valls again, Jim.

813
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: For my approach, I'm gonna take a snapshot of these

814
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: cron ods and bring them back up in about a

815
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: month or two. A lot of these teams will have

816
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: I think, volatile fluctuations in the next six weeks. Arkansas, Auburn, Bama.

817
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: Tennessee actually is probably most stable. Kentucky is sort of

818
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: a who knows at this point. I think the water

819
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 3: will find its level as the course of the year

820
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: plays out, and we're going to have a lot of

821
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: over and underachievement early for extraneous reasons. In the first

822
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: six weeks of the season. I was saying Kai I

823
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: would come back to this initial snapshot prices, expect these

824
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: to trend back as the season progresses, point as weight,

825
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: and then try and pick off a team that struggles

826
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: early this conference. I don't have much interest in future betting.

827
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: It's just too competitive the top and the prices don't

828
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: really make it worthwhile in my opinion. But if you

829
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: had to do on Tennessee and Auburn at six to one,

830
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: I think those are the best values, and there's very

831
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: clear scenarios where they ended up winning the league.

832
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: But Kai, you do have some interest in the Big Ten,

833
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: am I right?

834
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: That's correct because the value is there, and we've talked

835
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: about the Hoosas already a couple of times. I don't

836
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: think they're going to win the Big Ten, but fifteen

837
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: to one, that's crazy, especially when comparing to do other teams.

838
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: Illinois five to one, Michigan's three to one, produce three

839
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: and a half to one.

840
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: Even Michigan State's eight to one double the value on.

841
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: That's what I was just looking at, right, Yeah, Yeah,

842
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: if you want to say a couple of teams in

843
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: your Indiana should be in your portfolio, I think in

844
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: Big Ten, matt Illinoid five to one is fantastic value

845
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: compared to Michigan and Purdue. So I would be on

846
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: Illinoy and Indiana. I can't help myself, Jim, I did.

847
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a little few pennies on penn Stata.

848
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: There's got to do, gotta do.

849
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing that. I would I would actually

850
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: prefer to book that bet for you. Would you like

851
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: to just give me the money and I'll pay you

852
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: out the winnings.

853
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: Here's here's the information you don't have. There's going to

854
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: be a big man rumble where Hunter, Dickenson, Kofi Kober

855
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: and Tray Jacks and niggas are all going to get

856
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: into a ring and they're just going to be each

857
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: other up. Season ending injuries commence, the field opens wide up.

858
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: Micah Shrewsbury, like Moses and the Sea's parting steps in,

859
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: claims the Crown.

860
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't like all the injury wishing that Matt is.

861
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, this is we're right.

862
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: Cloud over your own. Yeah, I retract all that.

863
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: Retract all of it, very poor for karma purposes. I'm

864
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: going to break my ankle after this show.

865
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: Probably last little market guys, I wanted to touch on

866
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: the National Player of the Year, Naysmith Player of the Year.

867
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: There are some odds here. There's one that I just

868
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: particularly like for a couple of reasons. Matt, it is

869
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: your boy at Duke Paolo man Caro. I think the

870
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: two gonzagabigs Holmegrin and Timmy might split their causes a

871
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: little bit. I think that's going to hurt them. Some

872
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: of the longest shots I can't quite get there. Ban

873
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Caro is going to be the guy for Duke, who

874
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: we know is going to be mega featured nationally by media,

875
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 2: by every outlet, just because of the coach k retirement tour.

876
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: So at ten to one, you get possibly the number

877
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: one pick coming out next year. And I know the

878
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: freshman winning it is very rare Anthony Davis Zion. But

879
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: Matt bn Caro's that good, am I right? He is.

880
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: He is a freakish talent. He's not Zion good, but

881
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: I think we look back at this season and we

882
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: put his year up there with one of the best

883
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: freshman campaigns we've seen the last decade. Kai just to

884
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: freak inside. He's a dude who can score and inside

885
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: and out handles, and I think Duke's gonna be a

886
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: lot better than people think. And they're certainly going to

887
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: be put under the spotlight at every possible turn, so

888
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: he will have every opportunity to showcase his talents in

889
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: that you know, jaw dropping whoe type of fashion, which

890
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: I think you need, sort of that X factor of

891
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: Pizzaz when you're talking about this type of race. I

892
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: think jere Tim's gonna tough to be though I think

893
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: Tiam's going to have a productive year. He's a lovable

894
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: fan favorite. It's hard to bet against that. Kay, who

895
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: are you looking at? I think Ben Carro's the best

896
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 3: bet on the board for sure at ten to one.

897
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: I would not bet Johnny Juzang at twelve to one.

898
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: That's silly. He's inflated because of his tournament run last year.

899
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: A couple really good too. His team's just balanced.

900
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this team's good.

901
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: There's a couple of Big ten names, Jim obviously, there's

902
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: a ton of good big guys in that league. Hunter

903
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: Dickinson twenty to one. Comparatively, Tracy Jackson Davis is twelve

904
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: to one. I would take Dick Dickinson hundred times out

905
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: one hundred comparing those two with those values, and your

906
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: boy Jim E j Lddell going at twenty five to one.

907
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: That's another great value player in the player of the race.

908
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really jumped out late last year that they

909
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: had to run in the Big Ten tournament all the

910
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: way to the overtime finale on Selection Sunday, and he

911
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: really started to add that three point shot and if

912
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: he becomes, you know, prolific from that range to go

913
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: with everything else, he does his versatility on both ends

914
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: of the floor. I think Ladell is the type of

915
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: guy who could emerge as the clear best player on

916
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: his team, where some of these other guys have to

917
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: compete with attention for with some of their teammates. So yeah,

918
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: I like Ladell there as well. Matt. I just want

919
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: to I want to say I'm sorry that Matthew Meyer

920
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: is not on the board.

921
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: Inexcusable. I'm going to write a note and so when

922
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 3: get him out of the board here.

923
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: They've got to flag Layer but no Matthew Meyer.

924
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: It's an All American candidate. Yeah, it did inexcusable from

925
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: when well, you know they've done great job with through

926
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: other odds, but I'm not happy about my guy not

927
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: being on the board. I for one more hill, Mary,

928
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: and I mean like a multi football field length hill, Mary.

929
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Yep, wrap up the pod with this one.

930
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: David McCormick shouts out to agree to Kansas faithful out there,

931
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: sort of a me spinning at both your Missou alumni faces.

932
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 3: Two hundred and one plus twenty thousand. You're basically betting

933
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: on what I think is the best player on Kansas.

934
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: That's debatable, obviously, on Debata believe the second best team

935
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: in the country. Just that in an utshell is why

936
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: I feel like this is a pretty good value player. Yeah,

937
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: back to your whole like, why not put one dollar

938
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: and win a lot of money. That's kind of work

939
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: out with this.

940
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Wilson probably gonna miss a game or too early on.

941
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: We don't know how the Remy Martin situation is going

942
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: to go. There a Bajie is on the wing. But

943
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: the McCormick stats in conference play last year when he

944
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: was fully healthy, you can really jump out. Yep. So

945
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: McCormick at two hundred and one. Sure, I don't hate it, Matt.

946
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good big guys out there this year,

947
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: but maybe McCormick is the best on the number one

948
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: team in the country by the end of the year.

949
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: It's entirely possible. To everybody listening. Thank you. Please rate

950
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952
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,839
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953
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