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Speaker 1: what I saw. There's just a growing topic about fan behavior.

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Speaker 1: little thing called just rapid Fire. I just wrote down

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Speaker 1: give an opinion from everything from Big Bend to Dan Campbell. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then of course the Middlecoff mail Bag at John

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Speaker 1: years firing there. If you haven't everything, I'm posting this

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Speaker 1: all also on YouTube. John Middlecoff is the YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: post all the different segments on YouTube. Uh, you can

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I thought the Saints had

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Speaker 1: one of the best rosters in the league. Uh, they

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Speaker 1: had clearly underachieved in the playoffs. Uh. You know, you

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Speaker 1: could argue they got screwed the one year to the Rams.

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota miracle happened to him, Kirk Cousins beat him.

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Speaker 1: They just could never I thought they had a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl roster and they just couldn't get it done. Their

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Speaker 1: roster is still really good. But is their quarterback play

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Speaker 1: gonna come back to earth? That's that to me is

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Speaker 1: just a fascinating thing to watch. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe Jamis is gonna be really good for him. Actually

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Speaker 1: think the offense sets up pretty well for him. The

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Speaker 1: problem in Bruce Arians offense is down the field. Offense

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Speaker 1: well James gonna throw a lot of picks if he's

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Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field. If you're just running

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Speaker 1: slants and outs to Michael Thomas, you're dumping it off

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Speaker 1: to Alvin Kamara, it might, you know, limit his ability

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Speaker 1: to turn the ball over. I'm fascinated to watch Jamis

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Speaker 1: with with Sean Payton as as a full time starter.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ertz Red zach Ertz, teams are still very interested.

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Speaker 1: Some of these teams right now cannot even sign their rookies.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Eagles are one of them because

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Speaker 1: I saw Davante Smith signed his twenty million dark contract.

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Speaker 1: But it does feel like there's a lot of smoke.

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Speaker 1: Was zach Ertz that will eventually not being on the

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Speaker 1: to lose this season, so they're not gonna give him

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Speaker 1: away for like a fourth or fifth round pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's still a valuable player. Could they get a third

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Speaker 1: round pick for him? That was my last draft? What

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Speaker 1: was he like the fourth or fifth pick in the

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Speaker 1: second round. He's been fantastic. Helped you win a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: helped you be a really good team for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. If I was a good team, if if

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Speaker 1: I was a Cults of Bills, any of these the Packers,

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Speaker 1: I would be all over this guy. I would this

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Speaker 1: this guy can help your offense. Peter King wrote that

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Speaker 1: most observers, maybe scuttle butt within the league office, believe

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Speaker 1: there will be an eighteen game season. Of course there will.

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Speaker 1: Within three or four years, there are going to be

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Speaker 1: two preseason games and eighteen regular season games. That is

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Speaker 1: a one hundred percent lock. And they'll make dramatically more

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Speaker 1: money because every week added on of regular season games

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Speaker 1: equals chitching in the league, just like every business. Some

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Speaker 1: just pretend to lie about it. Are addicted to profits,

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Speaker 1: are addicted to revenue, and the way the NFL generates

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Speaker 1: the most revenue is by games. So this year they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have more revenue. Why they have an added week,

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Speaker 1: That's why they added playoff teams. They got two extra

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Speaker 1: they got six win win chicken dinner. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: I would love to have him on this podcast. Anyone

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Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions organization listening, hit me up with

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Speaker 1: an email. I would love to talk to Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I know Collins down on him. I'm high on him,

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Speaker 1: I really am. I think he's a just a great

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Speaker 1: character for the league. Part of the reason the NFL

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, basketball, football, and baseball coaches

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Speaker 1: baseball called the manager. We're all really famous. Right nowadays

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Speaker 1: league is full of game Kapler's that are paid fifty

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Speaker 1: I like Dave Roberts. Just all the younger managers that

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Speaker 1: million years in the NFL. Even in the NFL, like

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan really gonna talk a lot of ship? Probably not.

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Speaker 1: So you need your coaches to be just big personalities.

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Speaker 1: They helped sell your sport. This is all a television product,

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Speaker 1: and they're big characters. I think Dan Campbell is a

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Speaker 1: I laughed, I did. I'm a Week one Niners, Lions

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Speaker 1: can't wait. Uh, Tim Tebow read this. Diana Rassini works

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Speaker 1: for Espen also goes by espn. Uh said the Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow could be used in a Taysom Hill rule. I said,

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Speaker 1: four or four. Now, I don't know what Tebow is

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Speaker 1: Tebow looks like you know, I'm not saying he's doing anything,

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Speaker 1: I'd say Tim Tebow could break four seven five. A

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Speaker 1: huge part of Taysom Hills attribute, like his best attribute

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Speaker 1: is his speed, is elite. In his arm, Tebow's arm stinks.

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Speaker 1: If I was a defensive coordinator, I'd go, hey Herban,

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Speaker 1: make him throw the ball. Take take Trevor Lords off

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Speaker 1: the field. I'd be screaming that from the other sideline.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fifty two yards in a and a half.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'd be screaming for. Fifty two yards away.

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Speaker 1: I would love for Tebow to throw the ball. He

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Speaker 1: has one of the worst throwing motions we've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in NFL history, and his arm is not good. Tastom.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a great thrower, Like if

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Speaker 1: he does have a power. He can throw it to

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Speaker 1: compare that is laughable. That's a joke. He will not

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Speaker 1: play a tastom hill roll. It's just not possible. ESPN.

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Speaker 1: This is is the bright side for the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers because Rogers with Miles Teller in Hawaii cappealoua hanging

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Speaker 1: out drinking my ties at monkey Pod. Maybe maybe Rogers

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Speaker 1: wasn't at Monkey Pod because Miles Teller got beat up there.

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Speaker 1: But if you've ever been to monkey Pod on CAPPEALUA,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome the my ties. I'm not a foofy guy

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Speaker 1: drink like I usually just drink tequila sodas or vodka SODA's.

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Speaker 1: That's really would have been drinking now for the last

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Speaker 1: decade I've I've changed mainly tequila SODA's, but I will

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Speaker 1: see like a cocktail, like a peanut colade or whatever

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Speaker 1: at a bar with some friends. And I don't do

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Speaker 1: this very often, but you just get the itch, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you have You're like, this is terrible because all

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. It goes to Hawaii wants like every decade.

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Speaker 1: They're my ties. They're peanut clod melt in your mouth.

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Speaker 1: They use real fruit. They don't use fruit juice. They're

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Speaker 1: ice is fantastics just to leak. You know, I understand

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Speaker 1: why Rogers is there sucking down my ties, avoiding goodikins.

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Speaker 1: But they said that Jordan's love is showing signs of progress.

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Speaker 1: The one benefit of Rogers disappearing is that Jordan's Love

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Speaker 1: haven't seen the update if the receiver's ever showed up

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Speaker 1: or not, but just giving Jordan's Love every single rep

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Speaker 1: humanly possible at Packers practice is ultimately a big picture

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Speaker 1: win for them, whether they end up trading him because

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Speaker 1: they're able to transition to Love as their full time quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Right if the most powerful thing you can have on

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Speaker 1: your team is multiple quarterbacks. If one guy is good,

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Speaker 1: you can flip them. Jimmy Garoppolo had played a game

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Speaker 1: and a half, and Belichick actually took a discount because

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Speaker 1: to Kyle. If he really wanted to get a big war,

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Speaker 1: someone would have given him a first round pick. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: So if Jordan's love ever ever gets good, you can

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Speaker 1: either keep them or get rid of Rogers. We're a

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Speaker 1: long way away from that, but I'm just saying best

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Speaker 1: case scenario. It's not a bad thing to have the

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Speaker 1: last thing I saw. And this has to just irk

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Speaker 1: the Rogers and the Russells, and this is I give

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Speaker 1: the Bucks credit. Bruce Arians is no dummy. He had

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady evaluate rookie wide receivers coming out in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Just make the guy feel a part of it. He

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Speaker 1: already gave you a discount. He's playing for twenty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Dak Prescott is playing for forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Never done anything in the league

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Speaker 1: but throwing up some good stats. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: talk about Dak Prescott. I like the guy, but Tom

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Speaker 1: keep winning championships. I'm just gonna keep winning. And he

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Speaker 1: gets that. They help. They let him evaluate players, not

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Speaker 1: But why not? It's such an eaty. It's a BP

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Speaker 1: fastball as we call it. Just make Tom feel included.

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Speaker 1: That's always ever wanted. Hell Belichick evaluated, you can't even

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Speaker 1: I have to ask a football question, it's who will

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Speaker 1: start a real NFL game first, Tray Lance or our

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Speaker 1: boy McCorkle. I'd love to get your thoughts, Uh, in

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Speaker 1: your timeline you would expect, I'd expect Mac Jones start

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Speaker 1: a game before Tray Lance. It wouldn't shock me if

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones start a week one I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: out of their ound possibility, and he's definitely probably gonna

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Speaker 1: play more because you don't bring mac Jones in. He's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback like Tray. You could bring in for packages.

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Speaker 1: If Jimmy starting, Max just a starter, and then Cam

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Speaker 1: would come in. So I would guess. I would guess

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Speaker 1: that Mac Jones starts first. Do you think Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: will improve on last seas in this next year? Lombardi

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Speaker 1: is an asset, but Brandon Staley doesn't exactly resemble Shanahan

651
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Speaker 1: mcveigh's in the NFL because he's a defensive guy. Does

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Speaker 1: Herbert call the plays this year thoughts? I would guess

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Speaker 1: one he does not call plays. I saw Lombardi the

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Speaker 1: big year. It's like, yeah, Lombarty, Mike Williams has a

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Speaker 1: good year. Every if he's on the field, he produces.

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams a good player. He just gets hurt. Their

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Speaker 1: offense Keenan Allen, Mike Williams like they'll be good? Is

659
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's not gonna call plays, but their offense should

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Speaker 1: be good. I was born in Coopertino, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: to cal Poly next fall, love it to study mechanical engineering. Ship.

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Speaker 1: You are a smart individual. I am not. I could

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Speaker 1: never ever have gotten into cal Poli mechanical engineering, and

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Speaker 1: if I did, I would never survived. I'm soon to

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Speaker 1: It is though, when I started noticing hair. I'll never

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Speaker 1: forget being like at a in a class and looking

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Speaker 1: down and seeing hair fall, and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: am in trouble. I appreciate that Ryan have fun at

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Speaker 1: cal Poly. It doesn't suck. It's also not real life.

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Speaker 1: You just go there, you go to class, you get wasted,

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Speaker 1: you hang out, you go to the pool, you get

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Speaker 1: a little lift on, you play some pickup hoops, and

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Speaker 1: you do it all again every week. It's It's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: It is I enjoy I've always been a big believer

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Speaker 1: that to live a fulfilled life, you should get better,

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Speaker 1: Like life should get better, right, Like my life was

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Speaker 1: awesome growing up, had loving parents, had good friends, and

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Speaker 1: then I went to college. It was good, and then

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00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: it got better in the twenties. I mean it's different,

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Speaker 1: but then my life has been better in my thirties,

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Speaker 1: like it should get better. But so I hate people

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Speaker 1: that are like if I could go back to college,

687
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Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want to necessarily go back to college,

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Speaker 1: didn't have any money, but I did appreciate just not

689
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Speaker 1: having a worry in the world, not having to worry

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Speaker 1: like can I increase my revenue in quarter three? Or

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Speaker 1: like can I afford to keep my condo and buy

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Speaker 1: another house? All you cared about is like where's the keke?

693
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Speaker 1: Can we order some pizza? What time we're going drinking?

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Speaker 1: What time is the game on? Life was great, that

695
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Speaker 1: is very carefree. Life gets hard though after you already

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Speaker 1: know because you're gonna be studying a lot because you're

697
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Speaker 1: a mechanical engineer. How does Aaron Rodgers not playing affect

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Speaker 1: the packers salary cap if he doesn't show up and

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Speaker 1: doesn't get paid. I guess they would just have, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever available, But I don't think it really matters because

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Speaker 1: there's not like they're gonna fill his slot. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna trade for somebody and fill that money. Uh I

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Speaker 1: would imagine if he just doesn't show up, it just

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Speaker 1: takes the year off, then yeah, you would get thirty

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Speaker 1: seven You just wouldn't have to pay anyone thirty seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars. So you have thirty seven million dollars extra money, right,

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Speaker 1: But again it's just it would just be blank. It

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Speaker 1: would just save them money. It wouldn't actually do anything

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Speaker 1: for them. Do you think the NFL will ever bring

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Speaker 1: some games to Australia. There is a similar similar following

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Speaker 1: in Australia to England, and there are several stadiums in

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Speaker 1: Australia that could host an event matching the experience of

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Speaker 1: games in London. Where would you like to see the

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Speaker 1: NFL played If you could pick a country outside of

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Speaker 1: the States. The problem with Australia having been in New

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Speaker 1: Zealand once, it is far away. So I I just

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Speaker 1: I remember maybe six or seven years ago, the A's

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Speaker 1: played a game in Australia opening weekend. I think they

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Speaker 1: played the Mariners. They did opening weekend like a week

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Speaker 1: before the season, because if they played like Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 1: Saturday and gave him Sunday trap, they wouldn't make it

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Speaker 1: back to like it would just throw your time clock off.

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Speaker 1: So I think it is a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: logistical challenge. If I had to choose a place to

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Speaker 1: play a game and distance didn't matter, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I was last week when I went to Arizona. I

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Speaker 1: went with a good buddy. I grew up with Brian

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Speaker 1: who played baseball at St. Mary's, and his buddy Kyle Jensen,

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Speaker 1: who was playing the Bigs and played with him at St. Mary's,

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Speaker 1: played in Japan for a year and Brian showed me

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Speaker 1: these pictures of Japanese baseball. It's where you know dice

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Speaker 1: k show Hey o Tani, like they produce. When Japan

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Speaker 1: cares about something, Baseball, they produce h Rro, they produce

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Speaker 1: elite guys golf care about dki wins the masters. I

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Speaker 1: have nothing but admiration for the Japanese culture. They're very

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Speaker 1: disciplined and they take ship seriously and their elite guys

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Speaker 1: are elite at athletics. They played this game with like

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Speaker 1: people watching. Obviously, baseball is a really big deal in Japan,

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Speaker 1: and like every inning there's something a chant. One inning

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Speaker 1: they give everyone balloons and people just like ungrabbed the

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Speaker 1: balloon and all the balloons go up to the top

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Speaker 1: of the dome at the same time. Now, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure the NFL has played a game in Japan before.

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Speaker 1: I actually think they're scheduled to play a game in

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Speaker 1: Japan relatively soon, so I would go Japan. Uh. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: Japan might be just as far as Australia. So you're

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm an idiot. Uh didn't You didn't listen, didn't

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Speaker 1: get to listen to the podcast much pre draft, so

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Speaker 1: maybe you covered this and I missed it. I could

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Speaker 1: be wrong, but I can't think of a successful NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterback who has a hitch in his throwing motion like

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Speaker 1: Trey Lancets. Why do analysts ignore this as if it

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Speaker 1: won't be a problem. We'll be in there practices year.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it, so I it looked like a

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Speaker 1: normal throwing motion to me. Dramatic hitches stand out, and

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Speaker 1: he just looked like he had a normal throwing motion.

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Speaker 1: Why is there a wide variation when first round picks

758
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Speaker 1: signed their rookie deals. With the contracts already collectively bargain,

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00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't the rookies want to sign as soon as they

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Speaker 1: can to collect the signing bonus. That is an InCred

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Speaker 1: double question. I don't quite know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: But if I could get Howie or Parague or one

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Speaker 1: of those guys on the phone, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I I don't. I think sometimes you naturally are arguing

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Speaker 1: over semantics of a deal because that's just the the

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Speaker 1: agent has to justify as five percent or three percent, right,

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Speaker 1: Because if I was a player, what the funk am

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Speaker 1: I paying my agent for my rookie contract? Why? Why

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Speaker 1: am I giving you two percent whatever? Maybe just like

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Speaker 1: a base fee, like here's fifty dollars, But I saw

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Speaker 1: Davante Smith signed today. Why would Davante Smith a twenty

772
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Speaker 1: million dollar contract? Why would I owe whatever the going

773
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Speaker 1: rate is for an agent fee? My contract was determined

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Speaker 1: the moment they drafted me. What am I paying you

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Speaker 1: for dot and tease or crossing teas and dot nce.

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Speaker 1: That is where I do have admiration for these guys

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Speaker 1: to go negotiate their own Get a high level lawyer,

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Speaker 1: get a dude from a law firm. They'll charge you

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Speaker 1: a flat rate, even if it's a hundred grand. It's

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Speaker 1: better than giving someone three. I don't get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I think that I think the agents try

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Speaker 1: to justify their their job in that situation. Recently on

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Speaker 1: the pod, you discussed how coaching matters more than in

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Speaker 1: any other sport in football. I agree. Could you ever

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Speaker 1: see the league implementing a salary cap for coaches or

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Speaker 1: increasing the current salary cap but including coaches in it.

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Speaker 1: The NFL has the most parody of any sport, and

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Speaker 1: coaching is one of the few ways to overcome forced

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Speaker 1: parody of the salary cap. Intrigued to hear your thoughts, Well,

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Speaker 1: they don't need to think about the richest team in

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Speaker 1: the league, the team that just has more money. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys think of who their coaches have been the last

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Speaker 1: like Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips, Jerry Jones could, in theory,

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Speaker 1: hire any coach you wanted. He'd give Lincoln Riley two

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Speaker 1: million dollars. He doesn't, so what what would change that? Right? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. Stan Cronky has all this money.

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Speaker 1: I mean, three or four years go, he hired a

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Speaker 1: thirty one year old coach. Now Shawn's become an unreal

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Speaker 1: high level NFL coach, but that's who they hired. He

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Speaker 1: had an unlimited cash. The Shannon the jed. They tried

801
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: to hire Josh McDaniels. McDaniels told him no, and that's

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Speaker 1: how they ended up with Shannian. So I don't even

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Speaker 1: think it matters. There's a huge element unlike kind of

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Speaker 1: like players, you don't really it's it's a pretty big

805
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: guessing game. Now Washington hires Ron Rivera, Chiefs hire Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: Some of the you know, quote unquote, those guys aren't

807
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: retread so it's just guys looking for another job. You

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00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: know what you're getting. But for the most part, coordinators,

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Speaker 1: Is Brandon Staley gonna be any good? When Brian Dabele

810
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Speaker 1: gets a coach job, is he gonna be any good?

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Speaker 1: You just never know. People thought Doug Peterson sucked that

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Speaker 1: he wants Super Bowl. I just don't think you need

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Speaker 1: to do that, because you can give me the coach

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Speaker 1: with the sweetest resume, like Urban Meyer, an all time

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Speaker 1: great college coach, might suck in the pro us, he

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00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: might stink like there is a chance that it's an

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Speaker 1: epic failure. And I bet the Jags are paying him

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. He's getting paid It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: shock me. They're paying him twelve It wouldn't shock me.

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Speaker 1: They're paying him a million dollars a month. They might

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Speaker 1: not make the playoffs for three straight years and he'll

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Speaker 1: get fired. Think about that. I just it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things. It's a it's a good question. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think they need to do it. The Giants have

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00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: all this money. Look at the coaches. They always end

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Speaker 1: up with Macadoo Shermer. They can't figure it out. Every

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Speaker 1: once in a while they get a parcels or at Coughlin,

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Speaker 1: and then they run through all these average coaches. Joe Judge.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's good, maybe he's not. I don't know. Everyone

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Speaker 1: acted like he's sweet. He won five games last year,

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Speaker 1: so time will tell. Time will tell. Have a great weekend,

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Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. See you next week. S