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Speaker 1: Are you leave the I you wanna way back home?

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Speaker 2: Either way, we.

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Speaker 3: Want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage you

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Speaker 3: claim and give us time and a turmano and gay.

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Speaker 4: Do you wanna.

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Speaker 5: Welcome you back home?

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Speaker 3: Tell us all about it.

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Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?

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Speaker 5: Malborn?

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Speaker 6: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride.

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Speaker 2: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?

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Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Colgariff.

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Speaker 6: This is the point where I usually come in with

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Speaker 6: an anecdote or something that happened today, a conversation starter

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Speaker 6: with Karen. But I have prepared nothing.

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Speaker 2: Chris.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you should feel so much responsibility. This

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Speaker 5: is a fifty to fifty joint venture, spike Lee joint,

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Speaker 5: and we share that responsibility at the time.

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Speaker 6: You know along those lines, I want to do the

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Speaker 6: right thing, and so sure a spike Lee joint.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm here in Crookland just trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: what to say because I also prepared nothing.

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Speaker 6: Listen, welcome, X number of things could happen from not

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Speaker 6: having a topic off the top.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Malcolm, I don't want to put you in the middle.

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Speaker 5: That is not actually canon. That's not Spikey Cannon at all.

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Speaker 4: It is not.

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, he directed, He directed episodes three to seven.

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Speaker 5: Really not really, no, no, all of this is pretend.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, now I'm up to speed. I'm up to speed.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, no, here's a little and Dave walked away,

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Speaker 6: so we have to do this.

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Speaker 4: I went.

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Speaker 6: I went on a surf trip up in unlikely cold

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Speaker 6: Puget Sound of Washington, oh with friends of mine from

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Speaker 6: college that I have not seen two of them in

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Speaker 2: And it was the best time.

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Speaker 6: And we went into an ocean that looked like boiling

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Speaker 6: water but temperature wise was the opposite. And I'm sore,

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Speaker 6: like I got beat up by a truckload of cowboys and.

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Speaker 2: Norcl Surfing is It's fucking serious.

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Speaker 5: People don't talk about enough, how tough you have to be,

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Speaker 5: how real it is. They have legit great white sharks

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Speaker 5: just swimming alongside them. Plus the water is like near

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Speaker 5: zero temperatures. Plus abaloney might stick on you. Abaloney just

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Speaker 5: throwing stuff in. But there's danger.

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Speaker 6: Think about those the processed meatfish.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, think about that crustacean.

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Speaker 6: Just surfing alone, it's just like like Kyle Kanane once said,

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Speaker 6: it's like falling off a roof and then having the

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Speaker 6: up by waves, but I did pretty well. I think

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Speaker 6: I'm kind of caught the surfing bug, and I think

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Speaker 2: I'd hope so.

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Speaker 5: Because your hair screams, I'm a surfer, so you need

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the only choice I have. I look at me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just let me, Karen, Why don't you look at

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Speaker 5: the guest we have today? Who is a man? Who

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Speaker 5: is a He's a he's a host, a television host.

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Speaker 2: He's an author.

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Speaker 6: He used to be a vegan, he used to he

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Speaker 6: hosted one hundred and twenty minutes. If I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 6: he's done it all.

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Speaker 2: He's he's truly done it all.

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Speaker 5: He's already been a podcaster, and now he's about to

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Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen, exactly right, Yeah, I didn't. Ladies and

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Speaker 2: general please welcome mister Dave Holmes to this. Oh, hi, homes.

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Speaker 4: How how are all of How are we?

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Speaker 2: We are great? I think we're doing good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Good. It looks everybody looks good. Everybody has a happy,

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Speaker 2: So do you Your hair looks terrific?

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much? Now as we well, let me

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Speaker 4: let me turn these out. So yeah, I too have

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Speaker 5: Your hair has a real it has a real Beethoven

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Speaker 4: Great here, that's great. I know what I'm going for.

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Speaker 4: You said you know just what to say.

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Speaker 6: You're ascott and bag it away.

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Speaker 4: Really, what I feel like is is the Real World

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Speaker 4: Season two replacement cast member Glenn from the band Perch.

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Speaker 4: That's what I feel like I'm giving. That's a unique

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Speaker 6: Have did I go to did you have a World

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Speaker 4: have a you know, an infamous beef. Yeah, a good friend.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to manufacture controversy, and the only other

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I'm not. No, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 4: want to see that. No, no, what to see that.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to see yourself? No, other people might

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Speaker 5: That there could be a very specific like kind of

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Speaker 6: No, you went through that same thought process. When else

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Speaker 6: Because I'm realizing it's it's less work. I guess only

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Speaker 2: Well, you both have very very quality hair though.

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Speaker 5: That's the kind of hair that people want to see

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Speaker 2: By filthy, do you mean riddled with brains?

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Speaker 6: don't want to, which is a famous Cranberry's album. I

441
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 6: just yeah, I don't like Vegas as much because of

442
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 6: that pressure, like or New Year's or Halloween. It's like,

443
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 6: you know what I did New Year's last Wednesday, I'm

444
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 6: not going to do it when everyone else is parking

445
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 6: is bad, right, Like you go to Vegas and it's

446
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 6: just you're seeing everyone's dad on their worst behavior, drinking

447
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 6: from a big plastic bong. They have these giant blue

448
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 6: Everyone's got a giant, long blue drinking thing.

449
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about?

450
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 4: Yes, of course, yeah, but a yard of something blue,

451
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 4: which is just like, no, you do, yeah, you don't

452
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: need that. New Orleans is also very similar in that,

453
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: you know, like it's it is. It is people who

454
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 4: don't normally behave this way show up there and they

455
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: go to Fat Tuesday's and they get some frozen beverage

456
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 4: and immediately they black out and it's just an okay.

457
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: So I was there. This goes back eight or so

458
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: years and and I and I like you, was like,

459
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: I'm not going to participate. Also, I was working, we

460
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: had an early call, and I was like, okay, I'm

461
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: gonna whatever, hang out in my room, go to bed

462
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: at nine o'clock. At like ten o'clock, I hear what

463
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: as a dog owner, I immediately recognize as the sound of

464
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 4: urine hitting a carpet, right and I so I go,

465
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 4: and I like, listen at my door, and it is

466
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: sure enough like someone pissing on the in front of

467
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 4: my door. I so I throw open the door and

468
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: it is fully Millhouse's dad from the Simpsons, with his

469
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 4: dick in one hand and a glass of something blue

470
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: in the other and fully just urine, right and uh.

471
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: And so I go, what are you doing? And he's like,

472
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 4: and I said, where's your room? He said, I said,

473
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: pants up? And uh? And I like, I grabbed him

474
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: around the shoulder and I marched him down the elevator

475
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 4: into the lobby and I deposited him to the manager.

476
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: And I was just like, this man just on my door.

477
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: Whatever tournament, his room was directly across from mine. I

478
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: just didn't you didn't remember what his room was, or

479
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: he didn't have many across from him, uh like two

480
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: or three more I didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it

481
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 4: was just like, oh, you just don't know how to

482
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 4: do this, and yeah, that's what happens. And now it's

483
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 4: like now some poor you know, maintenance person or whatever

484
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: is going to have to scrub your urine out of

485
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: a hotel carpet. You know you can't.

486
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 6: That's the other thing I like about Vegas is they

487
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 6: probably left that you're in.

488
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a filthy, filthy city.

489
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: It is. It's disgusting.

490
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: Well, it happened so much New Orleans.

491
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 5: Like when I went to New Orleans, I didn't drink,

492
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 5: and but I watched people have like one hurricane those

493
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 5: hurricane drinks where you're just it's just like somebody being

494
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 5: like see you later, Like it's only going to take

495
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 5: me one drink. Yeah, it's like we're skipping to two

496
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: thirty am. But like right now at dinner at seven am.

497
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: It's insane.

498
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 4: It's insane. The only experience that I've had like that,

499
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: well it's not the only experience I've had like that,

500
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 4: but the one that I remember best is having malort

501
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: in Chicago some friends. I was there for a few

502
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: months some years ago, and some friends had me over

503
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: for dinner and like in a bunch of a bunch

504
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: of Chicago people they wanted to introduce me to and

505
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: they were like, because we're introducing you to Chicago, you

506
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 4: have to have my Lord. And there, you know, there

507
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: had been wine at dinner and stuff, and I had

508
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: I had my alert, which I don't know if you've

509
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: had it, but it's this like wormwood liqueur that is

510
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: it's like big in Chicago.

511
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: It's like yegger Reister type thing.

512
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, in that way, it's like whatever that is.

513
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: And and I had it and and then I was, well,

514
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: that's awful. And five minutes later, then it was forty

515
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: five minutes later, Yeah, like I was. I was I

516
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: was like conscious of like, oh I just lost time.

517
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 4: That's not like it's like you know, like that kind

518
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: of sleep where you close your eyes and you open

519
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 4: I and this the next morning I was like in

520
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: this part of the room, and then I was in

521
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: that part of the room and it was like, I don't,

522
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: let's not do that ever again.

523
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 6: That's why Millort sounds like a magical wizard's name. It does,

524
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 6: it does, takes it away time.

525
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 4: It takes away time. It's an evil wizard.

526
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 5: I wonder if it's wormwood, if it's that like that,

527
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: what's the green one that that? Yes, I wonder if

528
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: it's similar to that where there's almost like a psychedelic.

529
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: Aspect to it.

530
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be in the absent family. I could

531
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 4: still be this could still be my imagination from that.

532
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: It could be twenty fifteen. I might still be Yeah,

533
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: in Katie Reef's living room in Chicago.

534
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 6: You know, I know, No, we can't kind of gross

535
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: about me. Is the thing I like the most about

536
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 6: Vegas back when I did this is you could smoke

537
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 6: in an elevator sae.

538
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: I know.

539
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 6: There was a nass phrase in the elevator and I'm like,

540
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 6: we're the living life.

541
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: Now, Oh out a cigarette for a second.

542
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't have to you don't have

543
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 5: to live that way. Wait, can I tell my favorite

544
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: Vegas elevator story, and I know I've told it already

545
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 5: on this podcast, so sorry, Chris. But this was we

546
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: were in Vegas, I can't remember why. It was me

547
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 5: and marylynd Rice Cub and somebody else, and we were

548
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 5: in an elevator and there was an old couple like

549
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 5: in their probably seventies that were there, like you know,

550
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: to play like Bingo Hall bingo and be tourists. And

551
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: then this girl and this guy got on the elevator

552
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: and the girl was fucking hammered and she had a

553
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: full on like Vegas outfit, like a cute little mini

554
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 5: dress and she was out on the town, but she

555
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: was shit faced. And the late the second they stepped on,

556
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 5: and the girl was like giggling and stuff, the old

557
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: lady just got this look on her face like she

558
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 5: was so pissed.

559
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: She's like she's she's.

560
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 5: Like I got her arms crossed or whatever, and the

561
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 5: girl's kind of looking around and giggling. And then when

562
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 5: that old couple got off the elevator, the doors closed,

563
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: and this this drunk girl turns to me and Marilyn

564
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: and goes, Nana was pissed. I thought she was like

565
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: I thought she was blacked out, but she was fucking

566
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: right there with the whole thing.

567
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: It was so hilarious. I love her perfect thing. Yeah,

568
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: she was like, what's her problem? It was the best.

569
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: The thing that we used to do a lot. Scott

570
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: Gimble and I used to do this, but well, I

571
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: don't know, bunch, we did a half full of times.

572
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: Just like Monday night in Vegas, just hop on a

573
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: Southwest for forty bucks or whatever. There it's like everything

574
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: is cheap, no one is there except for like some

575
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: sad conference. You know, you have you have the run

576
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: of the place because like you know, the clubs don't

577
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: really close. I mean we're not clubs people, but like

578
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: nothing really closes. So you just anywhere that you've wanted

579
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: to go, you can just go and it's like it's

580
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: everything is super cheap. You can get a hotel room

581
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 4: for nothing, and then you know, get back on a

582
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 4: plane the next morning and go to work. It's like

583
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: it was so easy and fun.

584
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's apeal to me.

585
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything does appeal to me as far as going

586
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 6: somewhere and having fun.

587
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: Being in any place feels really enticing and compelling.

588
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: Right now, will you talking about going to clubs with

589
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: the real world people.

590
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: But my heart started to raise, so I was like, yes,

591
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: go get in the limo, Dave. It's like that already happened.

592
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: It's sorry, but I would do it again. I would

593
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: do it again. They, by the way, have now a

594
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: real world road Rules Challenge. That's all the old people.

595
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: So like Mark Long from the first season of road Rules,

596
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: who is fifty if he's one day old is like,

597
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 4: you know, in an under armour tank, you know, pushing

598
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: a boulder up a hill or whatever. It's all like,

599
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: it's all like the original, like it's the stallwarts of

600
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: the franchise are back. I haven't watched it. It feels

601
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: like I might, you know, consider my mortality more than

602
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: I want to. So I don't know.

603
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to face some stuff.

604
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: I'm don't have to face some stuff and I'm not

605
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: ready to.

606
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Karen, don't do it if you don't want to.

607
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm just going to tell you I

608
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: just received a text notification from super producer of the

609
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: Exactly Right Family, Kyle Crichton. Yes Quen for Impact is

610
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: the number one podcast in the music category. Yes as

611
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: U September twenty fourth, twenty twenty one.

612
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Guys and the trailer. Just the trailer, just a trailer, yes,

613
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: so so exciting.

614
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: Congress, will we keep people once it's a thing that

615
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: is longer than three minutes, we'll see and see.

616
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 6: We've got taken a podcast about the movie Deep Impact.

617
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: Right, that is correct, That is correct. We try to

618
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: wed a question that we need to answer, is is

619
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: this the one that Ti Leoni is in.

620
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

621
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: We don't. I don't. I don't want to spoil anything,

622
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: but we never really do answer that question.

623
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that might be season two. You can tackle on

624
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: season two.

625
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: What's it really? What can you really jokes aside?

626
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 5: Tell us, yeah, give us the rundown of waiting for impact.

627
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 6: Pretend we're a long table of executives.

628
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: Now go oh oh god, oh.

629
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 6: Really that angry look on my face, A nice suit, and.

630
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: You're emitting my fingertips to intimidate.

631
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you've really set me up for success. Yeah,

632
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: so they're okay. So in the in the Bois to

633
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: Men Motown, Philly video from nineteen ninety one, thirty years ago. There,

634
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: if you'd like it, if you'd like me, yep, that's it.

635
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: I do it every time. Family.

636
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so there, you know, there's like a mini

637
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 4: role call of you know, Boised Men, ABC, another Bad

638
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: Creation BBD, be Able to Devote whatever Michael Bivins is

639
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: building his East Coast family empire and UH. And so

640
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: those groups are are also sort of featured in moments

641
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: in bois to Men's debut video, so like they're a

642
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: band that's about to become huge, and their manager, Michael

643
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: Bivins is like, here's what you gotta do and like,

644
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: and he puts these other acts in there so that

645
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: they can kind of get a boost as well. And

646
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: among those, although they are not in the lyrics of

647
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 4: the song, is a five member boy band called Sudden Impact,

648
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: and they have a little moment and it's against a black,

649
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: seamless background and literally their name is in lights above

650
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: them and they point at the camera real cocky like

651
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 4: like here we come, what Sudden Impact? Are you ready?

652
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: And I was ready, and nothing happened. Nothing that I

653
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: was able to see ever happened. And I've always in

654
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: the back of my mind been like there's a story there,

655
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: but there was never like the right way to tell it,

656
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: you know. It was like it's not a book probably

657
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: and it's probably too involved for like a magazine piece.

658
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: And then I was like, what if it's a podcast?

659
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: What if I track these guys down and it's a podcast?

660
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: And seven to twelve years ago, Karen and I had

661
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: a conversation about it.

662
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: Seriously, easily three if not four years ago.

663
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: It's a long time ago. It was at the one

664
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 4: on one diner. Yeah, so it's at least two. Here's

665
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 4: a because that shit's been close for a couple of years.

666
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: Right. Our development process takes a while. We're very boutique

667
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 2: about it.

668
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what it's worth it. It's worth it.

669
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: You've got to take the time. We will really get

670
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: to a podcast before it's time. But yeah, So I

671
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: mentioned it to Karen and Georgia and Danielle Kramer a

672
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: while ago, and they're like, let's do this and I

673
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: was like all right, and so so we did. And

674
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 4: then and then immediately I was like, well, I really

675
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: hope there's a story here, because now I am now wet.

676
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: You hadn't done any investigating or I had done.

677
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: I had done the minimum of investigation to know that

678
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 4: these people were at least some of them were still alive. Yeah, yeah,

679
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: and then yeah, and then we began the process of

680
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: trying to track them down and tell the story, and

681
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: it's just become a thing that is like, you know,

682
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: when when you talk about anything that happened in the

683
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 4: early nineties, and you know, the crazy white hot fame

684
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: of real world people included, you immediately start to realize

685
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: how fundamentally different life in the nineties was, Like just

686
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: everything about the way that we consumed entertainment was totally different.

687
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: And you know, things changed gradually over the course of decades. Okay,

688
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: that is something an executive would do in the middle

689
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: of a pitch.

690
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: Straw loud, empty starze, drink, empty sucking.

691
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: I tried to pull the mic away, but it was.

692
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: It was too late, Chris, Chris, it was too late

693
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: a commentary, it was, it was.

694
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: But it's you know, there's so much to get into

695
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: in the way that like, you know, just the fundamental

696
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 4: facts of the nineties, you know, and and the way

697
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: that you if you liked a record, you had to

698
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: go and get it into your hands so that you

699
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: put it into a machine that could translate it and

700
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: into a thing that you could hear, and that machine

701
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: was like at home, yeah, you know, so like you

702
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 4: had whatever and also just like the nature of like fame,

703
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: and you know, you hit middle ages I have, and

704
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: it's like if you are somebody who had and has

705
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: you know, artistic goals or dreams or whatever, it's like

706
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: you get out into the actual world and you know,

707
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 4: life is different than what your expectations and dreams were.

708
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: Not in necessarily a bad way, but it is different anyway.

709
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: It's just the more that I got into the story,

710
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 4: the more it was like, this is about a lot.

711
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: This touches on a million areas that really interest me.

712
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: And so we now have waiting for impact at Dave

713
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: Holmes's Passion Projects with the excellent team at exactly right well.

714
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: And if I may say as a person who has

715
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 5: gotten to listen to this and has been excited since

716
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 5: the pitch, because we all know that kind of thing

717
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: where like there's pitches where you just hear it and

718
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: you're like, it's just a great idea. This People will

719
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: like this because you don't have to know, you don't

720
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: have to have been there to have a person tell

721
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 5: you the story of it and get you and pull

722
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: you in.

723
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: But the thing that I.

724
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: Love and the thing that is it's very exciting to

725
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: work with someone like Dave because he's a journalist, so

726
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 5: he's like, you know, he's business bottom line, right, And

727
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: so in these first couple of episodes where it was like.

728
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: How is this going to last?

729
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: And then pulling out themes so there's just really it's

730
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: aside from the story itself, which is a very interesting

731
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 5: thing from a very specific time, there's also these themes

732
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: that are very universal about like, you know, the goals

733
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: we give ourselves, the expectations we put on ourselves. When

734
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: we don't meet them, what happens. How that's not always

735
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: a bad thing. Failing is not a bad thing, even

736
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 5: though our culture tells us exactly the opposite. It actually

737
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 5: spurs you on to do other things, like it's a

738
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 5: really great it's just a great listen. There's a lot

739
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: of really amazing stuff in that podcast.

740
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you very much.

741
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 6: And it's all all ten episodes that are finished.

742
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: They are, yeah, I are if you're if you're a

743
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: Stitcher premium subscrit all in a row, if you want to,

744
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: now that has been a lot of me, all at once,

745
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: ten hours of Dave get into it. It's a lot.

746
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: It's a lot. You can do it if you want

747
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: to do it. You can do it. If not, new

748
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: episodes will come out every Tuesday starting October twelfth.

749
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 6: In the early nineties. I know that people ask you

750
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 6: about this all the time, but I know you pretty

751
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 6: well and I've never what how did you end up

752
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 6: submitting yourself or trying to be on that the VJ?

753
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a VJ? What was it called?

754
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: I remember seeing it and rooting.

755
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 6: For you and and not Nikki six or whatever his

756
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 6: name is, Jessica camp Right, No, that guy took everyone

757
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 6: by storm. But and then you after that, if I'm

758
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 6: not mistaken, just legitimately, they're like, well, all joke aside,

759
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 6: let's actually give this guy a job, right like they

760
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 6: then employed do.

761
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: Well. I do love that you asked if I submitted myself,

762
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: because it is what I did. I duck myself in the.

763
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 6: Mail they went to Saint Louis. Yeah, you said, a

764
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 6: vial of your blood.

765
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: Uh. No, I lived in New York. It was it

766
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: was happening in New York, Okay, and I was already

767
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: living there. I was working in advertising, uh and not

768
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: doing well and uh, and I was like looking for

769
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: something else. I knew that I was destined for something else.

770
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know what, but of course, like the MTV

771
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 4: VJ job is like the dream job, you just get

772
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: to talk about music and go all over the place

773
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: and all that.

774
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

775
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: So I was at work, and this was early internet days,

776
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: like we did. I didn't have a I guess I

777
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: had AOL or something at home, but sure at my

778
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 4: office I had sure angel Fire. I don't know.

779
00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: I heard think show it's on the.

780
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: So I on Thursday mornings from my office computer, I

781
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: would go to Billboard dot com and check the charts

782
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: on Tuesday Tuesday mornings, I don't know whatever it was.

783
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 4: And I went to check them on this April day

784
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety eight, and there was a sidebar story

785
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: saying MTV is going to hold an open call for VJs.

786
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 4: And it's like, well, that's I'm going. I'm going. And

787
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: so I called in sick from work that Monday, the

788
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: day of the thing, and I went and.

789
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: And it was indeed, submit yourself.

790
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: I did, indeed submit myself. I did stand in line

791
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: and all that. Yes, And it was this thing that

792
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: was once you got to like the top ten that Wednesday,

793
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: then they narrowed down to five and then we were

794
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: on the live show on like Thursday and Friday, and

795
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: then they were on Saturday. There was a live like

796
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: a four hour live event, and I didn't get the job,

797
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: but I was like, I'm going to yeah, I'm going

798
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: to get a job here, Like there's no I was

799
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: twenty six or twenty seven at the time, yeah, and I,

800
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: you know, had worked in the actual real world for

801
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: long enough to know that I wanted to be there

802
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: doing that. And so I was like, well, I'm just

803
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: gonna go to the wrap party and just like shake

804
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: every hand and get every business card and like you know,

805
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: and everyone was very supportive, all the exacts, all the

806
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: execs who were my age were all like, you know,

807
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: you should work for UST in some way, and I

808
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 4: was like, great, I would love to. And I just

809
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: like I went home and I started writing a bunch

810
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: of half assed like pitches and things, and I just

811
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: kept calling like that Monday, I was like, they'll forget

812
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: me if I don't. Tommy gunned them with phone calls

813
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 4: and emails. Yeah, And so I did and it ended

814
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 4: up working out.

815
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 6: That's great, And because that's something I've never been comfortable doing.

816
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: Now I am.

817
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but at that age, it's like I was too

818
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 6: scared to put po out there.

819
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember like my self talk being like put

820
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: your feelings in a box somewhere, lock them, lock them

821
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: in a trunk, and just have them later. Be shameless,

822
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 4: like be be as confident as you have ever pretended

823
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 4: to be, and just you know, keep going because you'll

824
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: either get a meeting and a polite no or yes uh,

825
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: or they'll just be like we don't have anything for you,

826
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, no, stand that you

827
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: shame you.

828
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: No, you came in second place. Like that's the perfect move.

829
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: That's that's Jennifer Hudson on American Idol and so many

830
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 5: other people where it's like you all of that is

831
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 5: people know, there's a politic aspect, there's a there's you know,

832
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 5: there could have been some executive somewhere that's like pulling

833
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 5: the levers. Who knows, but you showing up like there's

834
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: some about the good sportsmanship of you being like, thank

835
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 5: you so much because you're not bitter for being second place.

836
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: You're grateful and you're there to go HI. This was amazing.

837
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: I love it. That's what people like to be around.

838
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: That whole idea of like, oh, you know, I'm mad

839
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 5: or I'm going to go and cross my arms in

840
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: the corner.

841
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: No one gives a shit. They don't have time for

842
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: people like that.

843
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 5: And you basically met that with like this is a positive,

844
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: this is an opportunity, and everyone goes, fuck, yeah, we

845
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 5: want to be around a guy.

846
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: Like that, right, Plus they all are riddled with sympathy

847
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 6: because they're like, oh god, that's the guy the lost.

848
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: Exactly, totally.

849
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: Use it.

850
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: You can work to that. You can absolutely work that angle.

851
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 5: Why not well, And just because people voted for Jesse

852
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 5: Camp doesn't mean that was.

853
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Their pick, the executive's pick. No, you know what I mean,

854
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: like you give them the benefit of the doubt.

855
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: And you know the thing is I did benefit from that,

856
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 4: you know, dichotomy, that that sort of like binary between

857
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: me and him, because I mean he's he was a

858
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 4: wild attention getting character in a way that I will

859
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: never be. But also you know, there there is an

860
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: element of like, you know, speaking in complete sentences at

861
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: a TV job entails and so so you know, when

862
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 4: I was around the halls and like new shows are

863
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 4: being developed or weekend specials were being developed or whatever,

864
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: it was like he'd get a segment, but then they

865
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: would just be like, who's going to anchor the thing?

866
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: And if I was around the hallway, which, by the way,

867
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 4: I always was like if my job had me there

868
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: two days a week, I was there five days a

869
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: week because like why the fuck not be there in

870
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: the nerve center.

871
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: So it's just kind of always advertising.

872
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: Yes, I did, I did. I had to like phase

873
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 4: by that time, I was like temping. I think, yeah,

874
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 4: but yeah, I was sort of was doing a little

875
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: bit of both for a minute. And then there was

876
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: a night where I had to like it was my

877
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: last day in my advertising office and somebody knew was

878
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: about to start, and I had to get kind of

879
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: everything in order. And I was there on a weekend

880
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: kind of late into a Sunday night, and and then

881
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 4: I went home. And then that Monday morning, a town

882
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: car came to pick me up at my apartment and

883
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: take me to the beach house because it was summer. Yeah,

884
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: And I got out and like funk Master Flex was

885
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: like playing and it was Michael Bergen from Baywatch had

886
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: a workout show, so it was like Eric, I guess Eric,

887
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: and went on the pastures New By then.

888
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, but yeah, and dolphins already sure, sure, but yeah.

889
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 4: It was just like I got out of this is

890
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: I do this now? This is my life.

891
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: Yes, that's so cool. Wild as hell, wild, like overnight

892
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: from tempting to the.

893
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: Literally overnight, like literally over night.

894
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: It was.

895
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: It was completely wild. Can't beat that ship.

896
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: No, that's amazing.

897
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 6: The only thing with MTV that I really did. I

898
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 6: actually recorded it every night and I had a stack

899
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 6: of VHS tapes was one hundred and twenty minutes. Yes,

900
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 6: and you for a while. How how did you they

901
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 6: you just went that direction like no, I.

902
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: Just they needed they needed a host for a while.

903
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: I wasn't there for very long. And I'll tell you

904
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: I was there for three or four months.

905
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 6: But there because I remember you being on there. That's

906
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 6: how I watched it.

907
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would maybe fill in on occasion, but I

908
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: was only like full time there for like three or

909
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: four months, and it definitely started as like an interim thing.

910
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 4: And I mean I wanted to make it full time,

911
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: but I was also hosting say What Karaoke at the

912
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: same time, which was a very poppy daytime you know,

913
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: strip show and so like. So some people wrote actual

914
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: angry letters that like a pop guy was hosting the

915
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: alternative show, and the executives, who again were you know,

916
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty seven years old, were sensitive to that.

917
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: And so so I forget, I forget who ended up

918
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 4: getting it out after me. That person stayed on for

919
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: at Penfield. Penfield was before me.

920
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 6: I mean, those guys, anyone that's ever hosted one hundred

921
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 6: and twenty minutes just seems like they were a roadie

922
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: for the pick Seeds at.

923
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: Something exactly exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

924
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: They have like a raspy voice from Paul Cable.

925
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: A lot of Also, at the moment that I was

926
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: hosting it, it was difficult to know what alternative meant.

927
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 4: It was a weird. It was like ninety nine ish

928
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: two thousand and you know, the the post Nirvana thing

929
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: had sort of petered out. Yeah, and so the acts

930
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: that I was interviewing, as I remember them, were stained,

931
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 4: Sean Nolins, oh wow, yeah, Liz Fair, who I love,

932
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 4: and Tori Amos. But then but then also all these

933
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 4: like sludgy, depressing soul Patch guys who was like, I

934
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: don't understand why they're here. I don't understand why I'm here.

935
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: It was like my dream show. But it was just

936
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 4: a weird time for alternative music.

937
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's funny though, because I miss when

938
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 6: saying I like alternative music did answer the question when

939
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: someone says what kind of music do you like? Because

940
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: now I'm like, I don't know. The words aren't indie,

941
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 6: alt indy.

942
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know.

943
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: I get for there's a million.

944
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 6: When asked that question, because there isn't a word at least,

945
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 6: alternative was all encompassing of everything I was willing to

946
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: listen to, with the exception of the band Live or

947
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 6: Three Doors Down or Third Eyed Blind or Goo Goo

948
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 6: Dolls or you know.

949
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: I Okay, the list does go on. Okay, let me

950
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: let me tell you something. Let me tell you Okay.

951
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: So this is probably eighteen years ago. Maybe this is

952
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: like very shortly after I moved to Los Angeles. There

953
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: are uh, late times with Zach billboards all over Los Angeles.

954
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: What was it called late late world world?

955
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

956
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: Late world and uh. And I was living a sort

957
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: of near Lakma that doesn't who cares, but but a

958
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: bar that I would go to a lot was Barney's Beanery.

959
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: I was young, callow youth and I would often go

960
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: to Barney's Beanery, which is sort of a low key

961
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 4: gay bar. It's in the neighborhood, and it's like, you know,

962
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: it's a lot of like conflicted guys in their mid

963
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: twenties who like don't want to go to you know,

964
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: acbar or the abbey or whatever. Yeah, but they'll go.

965
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: I can't go all the way into West there edge.

966
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're you know whatever, like

967
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 4: they're straight, but no they're not anyway.

968
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

969
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: Also, it's always karaoke night at Barney's.

970
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: That's why I went there.

971
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 6: I was sure no one knows how much I used

972
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 6: to send karaoke there, and I'm getting really secret even today.

973
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: Oh, our paths surely crossed back in those days.

974
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they did, you probably it was used saying,

975
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: well that was that. It's okay.

976
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: Well, it's just it's just I don't know that I

977
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: ever on purpose went for karaoke night, but it just

978
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: seemed like every time I was here, it's karaoke night,

979
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: and you know, and just the smell of a of

980
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: a fried potato permeates the joint. But uh so I'm

981
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: at a booth with some friends with my back to

982
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: the stage. Uh, lightning crashes by Live starts off karaoke

983
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: night and and the singer sounds so much like Ed

984
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 4: from Live. It's like, that's right me, No, Chris, Chris,

985
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: that sounds a lot like Ed.

986
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: That was that was okay?

987
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: But it wasn't because it was Ed from Live. I

988
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 4: turned around and it was Ed's It was the actual

989
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: Ed from Live sing his song. I think this was

990
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: after rat Tail, but but like I like everyone like

991
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: rushed up the stage, including me, and like and we

992
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 4: were just like watching it. And what I remember most

993
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: of all was that like everyone was looking at each

994
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: other for like social cues on like what is what

995
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 4: is this? What does how does this feel like? Do

996
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: we like this? Or is this?

997
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 2: Is this the nerdiest thing of all the cost?

998
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 4: Is this the saddest thing of all time? Is this

999
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 4: the biggest power move of all time? I don't know.

1000
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna subcontract my feelings about

1001
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: this to the crowd, and like, truly we did not

1002
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: come to a consensus.

1003
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1004
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 6: And I still don't really know when I did this.

1005
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 6: I did this golf tournament in Montana and there was

1006
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 6: a the night I had to do stand up for

1007
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 6: all these ex NFL players. Some guy was playing Who's

1008
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 6: the Guitar? And it sounded like Bob Denver and it

1009
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 6: was nice to have it. It was just like rocky

1010
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 6: Mountain high music. And then all of a sudden, this

1011
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 6: guest came and starts, Oh yeah, but no, no, no,

1012
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 6: it was and it was all songs about hammocks and

1013
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 6: the skipper.

1014
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: But this guy started.

1015
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 6: Singing with this acoustic guitar player this this in sync song,

1016
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 6: and he sounded pretty good but not amazing. But it

1017
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 6: was Chris, the guy named Patrick. Yeah, yeah, he lives

1018
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: at Big Sky and he stag with him and saying

1019
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 6: country songs and all, and everyone started filming him and.

1020
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: It took me away.

1021
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 6: Sorry it was who this guy from in Sync? But

1022
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 6: now he's just a dude that looks like a golfer

1023
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 6: and he knows there and he's like, sure, I'll show

1024
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 6: up and yeah, off stage because I'm having so much fun. Actually,

1025
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 6: at the end, I really liked him a lot. He

1026
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 6: did every genre of music and uh yeah with this

1027
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 6: old guy playing guitar, and they'd obviously played together before.

1028
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 6: Sure they're the only two musicians in all of Big

1029
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 6: Sky on. Sure, yeah, you know what, but everyone pulled

1030
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 6: out their phones and yeah yeah.

1031
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: And then it was And then immediately the next day

1032
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: they looked at their photos and they're like, I don't

1033
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: remember that guy's name. Yeah, yeah, but I bet that's

1034
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 4: a good life. Like I think it is probably a

1035
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: lot of pressure to be justin Timberlake. Yeah, yes, but

1036
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: it's got to be a lot of fun to be

1037
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: Chris Kirkpatrick, It's definitely a lot of fun to be

1038
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 4: Joey Fittone, right, Yeah, he's like I think he knew

1039
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 4: even in the day, like I'm not going to have

1040
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: a music career after this, but I'll yea a massive

1041
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: fortune and I'll just like I guess I'll host some

1042
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: GSN game shows after this is over, you know.

1043
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 5: I will do a deep tease for for Waiting for Impact,

1044
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: there is a guest.

1045
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: Do you want to say the name or not?

1046
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 4: I think we have said the name?

1047
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 5: You have? Joe McIntyre from The Kids on the Blog

1048
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 5: gave interviews him on one episode and he is it

1049
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 5: was much too late for me, obviously. I couldn't love

1050
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: that guy more, Like he just is so salt of

1051
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 5: the earth.

1052
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 4: He's like treasure.

1053
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: He's come through the fire in a very real way. Yes, look,

1054
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: I look at kids.

1055
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 6: I look at the new kids in a different way

1056
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 6: because I actually was kind of rooting for them, and

1057
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 6: then they came out with their harder stuff where Marky

1058
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 6: Mark's cousin was like wrapping and stuff, and I'm like, wow,

1059
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: they're adapting.

1060
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: Are they going to bed?

1061
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 6: I was listening to it and starting to like it,

1062
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 6: and I was already going into high school and listening

1063
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 6: to the here and stuff. But man, oh yeah, we

1064
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 6: always rooted for them.

1065
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 4: We will get into their hip hop moments. Don't you worry.

1066
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: Coming up waiting for it.

1067
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: I can't believe it's out in the world about.

1068
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 5: To be Congratulations on your your number one spot on

1069
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 5: the music. I mean, that's very exciting, and that's a

1070
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: great it's it's it's modes well for the performance of it.

1071
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter if ten people listen to it

1072
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: or a billion.

1073
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: Great, it's great.

1074
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, matters very much, and we'll have him.

1075
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 5: We'll definitely have a meeting if only ten people listen.

1076
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: But it's a quality.

1077
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 6: Product, and so it's just the trailer for it.

1078
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 4: Right now, it's just a trailer.

1079
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1080
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 6: Wow.

1081
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 4: I don't know how it works on Apple podcasts, but

1082
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: it's just you know, listen, I'll take it. It's the

1083
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 4: number one and I'll take it.

1084
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 5: Hey, they're just recording who's listening to what? And so

1085
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 5: they're they're on your feed listening to it. It's great,

1086
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 5: it's great news.

1087
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 4: I'm delighted.

1088
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Is that anything else you want to plug before we go?

1089
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: Wow, let's see what do I want to I did

1090
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 4: just get to to take it back to the nineties

1091
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 4: yet again. I did. I got to talk to Tom

1092
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 4: DeLong for Esquire a couple of weeks ago. That is

1093
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 4: up on the site now. I did not make the

1094
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: drive down to San Diego to talk to him, and

1095
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: I'm delighted that I didn't, because a conversation with him

1096
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 4: is so utterly head spinning that I am not kidding

1097
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 4: when I tell you that I ended the Zoom meeting

1098
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: and I put my head down on my desk and

1099
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 4: I took a little nap. It is he is so

1100
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: like he's lovely and and a lot of his like

1101
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: UFO research has been used like literally by the Pentagon

1102
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: and ship like his his he has been like vindicated

1103
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 4: and validated as like a source on this side.

1104
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this guy's.

1105
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so he was he was. He was the guitar

1106
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 4: player in Blink one eighty two and then he like

1107
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: left the band to to chase aliens, to like to

1108
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: you know, do UFO research and stuff. And it was

1109
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: like ridiculous back then, but now again, like a lot

1110
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: of his research has like some of the ship is really.

1111
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: Does he think the ar legit? Okay, he might honestly sure.

1112
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: But no I don't. I don't think he don't think

1113
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 4: he does. Like I should send you the transcript. It

1114
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: is truly like, wow, he said bigfoot, I think before

1115
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 4: he said hello, Oh it's wild as hell. So so yeah,

1116
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: so that is that is up and out in the world.

1117
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: That's so crazing I am.

1118
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: I am, of course, uh in a legendary blood feud

1119
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: with with Mike Doughty.

1120
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that up.

1121
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: Well, I mean maybe we will, maybe we won't, but you'll.

1122
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 6: Certainly find out if it's hard to when someone pulls

1123
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 6: a knife on you like he did exactly exactly.

1124
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 4: You can't really do that, Mike dough.

1125
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 6: All you did is overturn that table. What a weird wedding.

1126
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 6: Huh yeah, well the royal family well remembered. I'll tell

1127
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 6: you that much. I'm just to see what I'm doing.

1128
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 4: I'm feeding, you're doing, You're yes, and you're yes ending

1129
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 4: and I appreciate it and I admire it.

1130
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1131
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still doing Homophelia with my friend Matt mconukeay

1132
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: talking to awesome queer people, awesome about their awesome queer lives. Yeah,

1133
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: you know, just keep it busy, guys, just.

1134
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 5: Broadcasting your ass off. Well, Dave, thank you for taking

1135
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 5: the time to be here with us. Oh my god,

1136
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: it is delight.

1137
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: It went by so fast, you really did?

1138
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, really quick. Guys like Karen, why are

1139
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 6: you stopping us at one half hour?

1140
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Never mind?

1141
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: Oh how long have we been talking?

1142
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Just one full hour?

1143
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: No? Great?

1144
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: You know standard.

1145
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: Well that concludes this episode you've been listening to.

1146
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: Do you need a ride? D y n A?

1147
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: I you wanna way back?

1148
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: Either way? We want to be.

1149
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: There, doesn't matter how much bage you claim. Give us

1150
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: time and turning on Gabe.

1151
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: We want to send you up in.

1152
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: We want to welcome you back home.

1153
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: Tell us all about it. We scared her?

1154
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Was it fine?

1155
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 5: Melbourne.

1156
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 6: Do you need to ride?

1157
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1158
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

1159
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1160
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 7: Do you need to ride?

1161
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: Do you need

1162
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: With Karen and Chriss