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Speaker 1: my state. I'm a little bit biased as a Floridian.

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Speaker 1: a Secretary State, Cord Bird. He was appointed by Governor

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Speaker 1: so much for joining the show. I'm a florid iad,

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Speaker 1: And yes, you're right, the Sunshine States leading the way

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Speaker 1: And that that's why it's just such a terrible idea,

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Speaker 1: But anyways, that's another. Yes, that's another. And listen, they're

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Speaker 1: I'm missing from this conversation, any important points that you

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Speaker 1: want the listeners to know that we haven't touched on.

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Speaker 1: I think the key is really is getting involved and participating.

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Speaker 1: The I say this everywhere I I speak. You know,

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Speaker 1: They need to uh to volunte volunteer for a campaign, volunteer,

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Speaker 1: So we're getting it right in Florida. Look to our model.

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Speaker 1: I'll help anybody anywhere, anytime to to get so they

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Speaker 1: get their elections right. Secretary Bird, I love our state.

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Speaker 1: We live in the freest, the best state in the

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Speaker 1: to keep it in election integrity to the state and

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Speaker 1: thank you for the job that you do. Thank you

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Speaker 1: we send for the opportunity to talk to you and

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Speaker 1: So that was Secretary of State or Bird of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Interesting conversation. I just wanted to you know, look, Florida

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Speaker 1: everyone else? So I wanted to hear or from our

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Speaker 1: it's different for you guys at home and for myself too.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed it. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. I want to thank John Cassio, my producer,

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Speaker 1: for putting this show together every Monday and Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: much for listening. Until next time.