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Speaker 1: What is going on? John Middelkop, the Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast here on the Colin Coward Podcast Network just finished.

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Speaker 1: You know, i'd call it a classic. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't want the refs to take away my joy, so

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Speaker 1: it's I wouldn't quite go classic, but it's way better

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Speaker 1: than just a really good game. Somewhere in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a really good game and a classic, the ending,

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Speaker 1: the final drive was definitely a classic. Walter Anderson I

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Speaker 1: tweeted this needs to be put out to pasture. He

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Speaker 1: should not be allowed at sixty five sixties six years old.

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Speaker 1: Wikipedia does not have an exact age to ever call

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Speaker 1: an NFL game again. But this is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: about the officials. Uh, the play on the field was

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Speaker 1: too high level, so I'm not gonna get caught up

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Speaker 1: on that. But twenty nine, twenty eight, the game literally

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Speaker 1: just ended. Came right in my office record this bad boy.

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Speaker 1: What a game. A lot a lot coming up today.

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Speaker 1: Some thoughts obviously on this game, the the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: the ever growing cap sa Kwan Barkley's just greatness. Talking

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Speaker 1: to some friends in the league. Uh, Kyler Murray's situations

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting, and you know, at the end, we always

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Speaker 1: dive into the Middlecoff mail bag. You slide into my

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Speaker 1: d M s at John Middlecoff on Instagram and I

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Speaker 1: will answer your questions on the show. You just slide

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Speaker 1: into my d M s They're wide open on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff and I'll answer them. But but really quick.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows about the risk about dr drunk driving. You

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Speaker 1: could get in the crash, people could get hurt or killed,

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Speaker 1: but that still doesn't stop everyone. You could get arrested,

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Speaker 1: you could incur huge legal expenses, and you could possibly

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Speaker 1: even lose your job. We all know the consequences of

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Speaker 1: driving drunk. But one thing for sure, you're wrong if

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Speaker 1: you think it's no big deal. Drive sober or get

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Speaker 1: pulled over. Brought to you by the National Highway Trade

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Speaker 1: Traffic Administration. Uh wow, where do I even begin? You know?

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Speaker 1: I think one of the most basic lessons we all learn,

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Speaker 1: you know, as you get older, you realize that in

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Speaker 1: any business you have, uh just anything in life. It's

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Speaker 1: so true. It's one of the most basic things I

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Speaker 1: think any parents, you know teaches their kids, son or daughter.

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Speaker 1: We all learn it in U sports. But it's tough.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you fail at something early and you

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Speaker 1: believe in yourself, you know, it's easy to give up

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Speaker 1: or you know, ultimately just kind of have the loser mentality.

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Speaker 1: And I've always believed in this guy, uh And I've

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Speaker 1: never thought he was a loser necessarily, but I did

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Speaker 1: think that man, he consistently makes bone headed plays in

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Speaker 1: big spots, and luckily tonight and he said it after

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Speaker 1: the game, and God, he would make a I mean,

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Speaker 1: every time they win a game and they put a

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Speaker 1: mic in fund of Philip Rivers face. You just think

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Speaker 1: Jason Witten is lucky because if he retired right now,

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Speaker 1: you better believe Monday Night Football would call him immediately.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be a fantastic NFL analyst one day if

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Speaker 1: he wants to do that. I know he wants to

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Speaker 1: coach high school sports. But those interceptions that he threw

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Speaker 1: in the first half or just are unacceptable for a

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Speaker 1: but his resume is lacking some things. His teams don't

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Speaker 1: consistently go to the playoffs, and a lot of times

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Speaker 1: I won't put last year all on him, but in

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Speaker 1: If you work for someone and they are cheap, uh,

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Speaker 1: twelve to Benjamin was just was Hall of Fame level.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted this out right after the game, that listen.

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Speaker 1: I you'd have to go back and look at every

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Speaker 1: or whatever, But that has to be the biggest regular

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Speaker 1: And it also shows you why you always draft best

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Speaker 1: in hell, you know. Uh, he was just fantastic. But

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Speaker 1: to me, it starts and ends with Philip Rivers. He

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Speaker 1: just gets molly wapped play after play and again he

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Speaker 1: he could have gone into the tank those first two turnovers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the first turnover in the first series was atrocious,

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Speaker 1: zone turnovers. But I don't have the stats in front

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Speaker 1: with your offensive lineman, especially the guards, just getting spun

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Speaker 1: be just an awful loss. But again, back to what

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Speaker 1: I said, is not how you start, it's how you finish.

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Speaker 1: And God, he started. I mean his start was terrible,

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Speaker 1: and this is these these conservative coaches are a dying breed.

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Speaker 1: what about the game? I remember, I think it was

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Speaker 1: the third week of the season. You went into l

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Speaker 1: A and you got lit up like a Christmas tree.

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Speaker 1: I watched your offense was fine. I didn't hear John D.

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Speaker 1: Filippo the next week saying God or defense needs to

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Speaker 1: play better, like you're just such a hypocrite. Some of

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Speaker 1: these old school coaches like it's all about the team.

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Speaker 1: It's all about the team, no I And then you

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Speaker 1: start pointing the finger like that. I just I have

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Speaker 1: a problem with frauds and hypocrites. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer is necessarily a fraud, but he's a hypocrite.

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Speaker 1: He's one thousand percent of hypocrite because you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to talk about him like that, but he sure can

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Speaker 1: talk about you like that. And I'm all for unfiltered

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Speaker 1: no pc bs and so, but say in your offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinators calling shitty plays, like what do you think the

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Speaker 1: reaction is gonna be? He said that a month ago,

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Speaker 1: and then you say it again, and I get it,

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Speaker 1: he fired him, But come on, bro, like, I just

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Speaker 1: I don't have much respect for that, Like it's just

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Speaker 1: not the way to handle yourself. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll look at the resume. You fired an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: this year, You had a guy two years ago quit.

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Speaker 1: His name happens to be North Turner. Of offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: in my thirty four years of life. I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, not what your as a head coach. Norv

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Speaker 1: Turner is easily a top three offensive coordinator, just the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, like that's North Turner, top three offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He quit said, I I can't take this old school

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Speaker 1: nut job. So I I lost a little respect for

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Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer And listen, it's his team. You do what

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Speaker 1: you want, but to constantly throw those c under the

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Speaker 1: bus and then eventually fire him for throwing the ball.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid has been the best offensive coordinator in this

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Speaker 1: league for twenty five years. Throwing the football. You paid

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins eighty four million dollars to throw the football,

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Speaker 1: Like yo, Mike, get with the times, bro. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: get into some interesting news that came out this week

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Speaker 1: about the NFL salary cap. And before I dive into it,

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Speaker 1: I just want to you know, this is a football podcast,

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Speaker 1: and what I'm about to say, you're gonna be like

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Speaker 1: got middle cloff. You must hate the NBA Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: I love the NBA. Watch every Warriors game. I'm lucky

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Speaker 1: enough to live in the Bay Area and watch this greatness.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on Michael Jordans. I still kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Kinks, who actually have a sneaky good squad.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big basketball guy and I'm one of the

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Speaker 1: rare guys under fifty that consumes a shipload of baseball.

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Speaker 1: I watched way too much San Fransco Giants, and I

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Speaker 1: just a baseball fan in general. So I'm just a

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Speaker 1: sports geek. I mean, that's for really at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day. So I may take some shots at

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Speaker 1: those two sports here in the next couple of minutes,

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Speaker 1: but I love those two sports. So I am not

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that's not watching it. That's actually

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Speaker 1: the masses. But a story came out this week that

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Speaker 1: the NFL salary cap has risen fort since two thousand fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and it's projected to be potentially over a hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety million dollars. Basically, if where it's going is where

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Speaker 1: it's projected, it's gone up ten million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: This upcoming spring will be at sixth straight year. Business

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Speaker 1: is a booming, but a media narrative and one thing

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Speaker 1: I just try to be real on this show that

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Speaker 1: has been in the forefront. I would say the last

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Speaker 1: I don't know, five six years over that span of

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Speaker 1: just crazy, crazy growth has been that not just the

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Speaker 1: NFL's failing that Roger Goodell is an idiot that people

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Speaker 1: don't like football, and really the ratings are back up.

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Speaker 1: But the number one thing is that business has never

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Speaker 1: been better. The NFL, unlike the other two sports, don't

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Speaker 1: get it twisted. Baseball doesn't pay coaches, so the players

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Speaker 1: get paid. No one else getting paid, players and owners.

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Speaker 1: In the NBA, some coaches get paid, a lot of

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Speaker 1: them don't get paid that much, and there just aren't

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Speaker 1: that many players, so it's making players rich. But there's

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Speaker 1: only twelve a team. Actually there's fifteen, but twelve guys

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Speaker 1: that actually dress every game. In football, everyone's getting rich,

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Speaker 1: the players, the coaches, the exacts, the owners, the media members.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's making money. And one narrative that football was gonna

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Speaker 1: die and be overtaken by the NBA. Again, I love

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Outside of the Warriors and Lebron, no one

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Speaker 1: watches the Eastern Conference ratings since Lebron left are in

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Speaker 1: the tank. The masses do not consume basketball baseball. I

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Speaker 1: know everyone loves to tell me, oh, Bryce Harper is

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Speaker 1: gonna make three million, They've never made more revenue. Well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I got some news for you. They've never

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Speaker 1: had less people attend baseball games. They've never had less

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Speaker 1: younger people watch baseball games. I think baseball, and again

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Speaker 1: I love the sport, I consume the sport. But there

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Speaker 1: are very similar parallels to probably newspapers fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: like it's clear where we're heading, and baseball while they're

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Speaker 1: making money in the short term, big picture, they're in

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Speaker 1: some trouble. Don't don't let don't ever get that twisted.

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Speaker 1: The youth is not consuming the sport. Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Wind blows fastest at the top of the mountain, like

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Speaker 1: everyone's coming for the NFL. Of course they are. They've

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Speaker 1: been on top now for ten plus years, maybe more.

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Speaker 1: But they've really been on top in an economic boom

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Speaker 1: of the last ten years of a of an absolute

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Speaker 1: war for attention and the ability to get people's eyeballs.

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Speaker 1: The NFL has lapped these other sports. And it's a

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Speaker 1: combination of fantasy sports, gambling, and just an urgency that

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Speaker 1: the other sports cannot duplicate. But the most important thing

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Speaker 1: is consistently the cap. Basketball, the cap hasn't risen for

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Speaker 1: like the last three years. In baseball, like five teams

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Speaker 1: pay players. The Oakland A's, who had the lowest payroll

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Speaker 1: in Baseball are cutting salary in football, and it's not

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Speaker 1: just the players getting paid. The coaches have never made more.

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Speaker 1: The executives have never made more. And again, one issue

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Speaker 1: I've always had with the media, and I'm in the media,

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Speaker 1: but just the group thinking the media is they attack

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And I get that's naturally the job of

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Speaker 1: quote unquote journalists, but anyone that covers the NFL has

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Speaker 1: never made more money. You're watching seven figure guys all

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Speaker 1: over television, a ton of high six figure level reporters

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Speaker 1: the media. They're like the top two percent in America.

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Speaker 1: It's why I think there's been a lot of pushback

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Speaker 1: the last several years on Twitter, and I'm not just

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Speaker 1: talking the president but just in general from both sides,

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Speaker 1: is that they're kind of they were more to the

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Speaker 1: elites than the guy sitting at the top of the

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Speaker 1: stands in any of these games. But all I know

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Speaker 1: is this, they say the game is not healthy. Yet

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Speaker 1: people have never made more money. The players have never

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Speaker 1: made more money. The salary cap has risen forty percent

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Speaker 1: since two thousand fourteen. It's why on more of a

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Speaker 1: and more of an individual example of Khalil Mack, why

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Speaker 1: I kind of crushed the Raiders. They're like, oh, you

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Speaker 1: can't afford have to twenty million dollar players. I think

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Speaker 1: the casual fan and some owners love this because they

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Speaker 1: don't want Mark Davids just might not have the money

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Speaker 1: that they couldn't afford Kalil back in Derek Carr. They

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Speaker 1: act like the the salary cap is eighty million dollars,

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Speaker 1: it's about to be a hundred and ninety a hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety million dollars now. I I never advocate beside

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Speaker 1: the quarterback allocating a lot of money to you know,

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Speaker 1: probably five or six guys. There are two or I

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Speaker 1: always say there are two or three people non quarterback

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Speaker 1: worth paying. Khalil Mack has happened to be one of

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Speaker 1: those people I actually heard. Who'd I hear this week?

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Speaker 1: I I forget and I'm not trying to steal the

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Speaker 1: topic because I did not think of this myself, that

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Speaker 1: eventually in the new c b A, the NFL should

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Speaker 1: think about and and this would probably lower the salary

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Speaker 1: cap but benefit other players having the quarterback money when

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Speaker 1: it comes to a second contract be off the books

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Speaker 1: or be in its own separate category and not count

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Speaker 1: against the cap. I want to say. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: even who said it. I'm I'm not I did not

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Speaker 1: think of that myself. I heard someone else saying it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was someone on Bill Simmons podcast. And I

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Speaker 1: like the idea. Uh no, I I Ryan Rcilo's I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I I actually think it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good idea. But just know this, when everyone's trying to

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Speaker 1: do the n b A the NBA, the Golden State Warriors,

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Speaker 1: who are the best team in the NBA this season,

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Speaker 1: will not play one, let me repeat one meaningful regular

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Speaker 1: season game. Every one of their two regular season games

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Speaker 1: don't mean diddly poop. In baseball, the season is so

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Speaker 1: damn long that you could gain twenty pounds and then

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Speaker 1: losing twenty pounds. Just I'm not saying baseball players they

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Speaker 1: usually gain weight, but just as a human in the

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Speaker 1: in the during that season, Football is the king for

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Speaker 1: a reason. They have the most eyeballs, They create the

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Speaker 1: most interest their games. Their storylines matter, but their actual

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Speaker 1: games during the regular season matter the most. This Steeler

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Speaker 1: Patriot game really matters. This Colts Dallas game really mattered.

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Speaker 1: I sat on my couch two nights ago watch the

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Speaker 1: Warriors play the Raptors. Warriors got their ass kicked. The

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Speaker 1: game didn't mean anything to the Warriors, not a thing.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors will play enough o their game. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this on Friday Friday Night against the Kinks,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the biggest games it's Sacramento in ten years.

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Speaker 1: It literally means nothing, maybe negative things to the Golden

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Speaker 1: State Warriors. So while you have media members that will say, oh,

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Speaker 1: the the NFL is screwed, They're dead, I refuse to

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Speaker 1: watch the NFL. Well, the NBA, and especially politically, the

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Speaker 1: NBA doesn't allow players to kneel. They mandate that you stand.

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, the youth isn't watching the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't go as far to say it's never been healthier,

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Speaker 1: because they do have a problem just with somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a narrative UH. And I say narrative because there is

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Speaker 1: science behind it, but there's also other science that's questioning

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Speaker 1: that people can develop CT on their own and listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not naive to the fact that the dispute that

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Speaker 1: playing football at a young age can have UH and

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Speaker 1: create issues like I'm not trying to say that at all.

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Speaker 1: There are problems when I let my kid play high

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Speaker 1: school football, Yes, when I let him play tackle will

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Speaker 1: tackle football. I don't even have children yet, but even

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Speaker 1: be around when my kids tend like it was for me.

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Speaker 1: Peewee's probably not and that's probably for the better. No

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Speaker 1: one's disputing that. But don't ever get it twisted. No

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Speaker 1: sport creates more money for its players, for its coaches,

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Speaker 1: for minorities, for its owners. It's the healthiest league by

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Speaker 1: a country mile, and it will continue to be that

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Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. Let's get into another story that

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Speaker 1: I saw broke and a bunch of people are freaking out,

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Speaker 1: and my first takeaway was, of course he did. Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: who's been really polarizing. The baseball hot Stove took place

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Speaker 1: this week in Las Vegas, which is where the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft is gonna be in two thousand twenty. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: sweet draft location. I might have to cruise there for

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Speaker 1: the Three and Out podcast. But Scott Boris made some

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Speaker 1: bold proclamations about a Marie Cooper or I said, a

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Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper Kyler Murray playing baseball this week. He changed

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Speaker 1: his tune a little bit. Nothing inconcrete, and then it

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Speaker 1: came out today Thursday, at least the first I saw

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Speaker 1: it that Kyler Murray is throwing his name into the

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Speaker 1: Underclassman Evaluation NFL committee. And everyone's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna play in the NFL. And he might. But

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Speaker 1: this is common practice, and I think sometimes we all

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Speaker 1: have certain just common practices in whatever field we work

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Speaker 1: in that are just basic way that our industry operates.

640
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: And if you have a pulse in college football, is

641
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: an underclassman more than a pulse, Like are a solid

642
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: player and you are thinking, or even cross your mind,

643
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: what round would I get drafted? It doesn't cost you

644
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: anything or takes you any time. You just asked to

645
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: be evaluated. Kyler Murray would be nuts if he didn't

646
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: ask what round by this NFL committee. And it's like

647
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: a it's like a group of gms and high level

648
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: execs around the league that kind of split up these

649
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: players and give an initial grade on them. It's not

650
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: anything like he is top ten pick. It's you know,

651
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: it's actually pretty open ended. This guy is a first

652
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: round er, this guy is a second day pick. It's

653
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: not even very specific, but he would have been crazy

654
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: to not throw his hat in the ring and his

655
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: name in the ring to get evaluated. And I've been

656
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: talking about Kyler Murray for a while and this notion

657
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: that listen, the biggest difference between Major League Baseball in

658
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. If you're a quarterback and going to be

659
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: a first round pick, which he might be, now there

660
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: is a chance. And if I was advising Kyler, here's

661
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: what I would say. If you do whatever. First off,

662
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer, do whatever makes you happy. Don't

663
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: listen to your dad, who was about as arrogant and

664
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: his egotistical is any parent I've ever seen. At the

665
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Heisman deal, don't listen to Scott Boris, don't listen to

666
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: hell Joel Siegel or Tom Condon or whoever your NFL

667
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: agent would be. Do whatever makes you happy. That's this

668
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: is how I lead my life with anyone. Just do

669
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: you man. Don't don't listen to other people that you

670
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: do other things to make other people happy. Do what

671
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: you want to do. If that's baseball, it's baseball. If

672
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: it's football, it's football. If it's both, attempt both. Don't

673
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 1: let other people try to dictate your happiness. But when

674
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: it comes to football the NFL Combine. You know for

675
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: the most part. Uh, he wouldn't be an mL like

676
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Major League camp because he's a rookie, so he would

677
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: Usually those guys have to report like early March. Go

678
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: to the combine. Kyler, you don't even need to work out,

679
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: throw or anything. Just meet with teams and every team

680
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: would want to talk to him. Go talk to Belichick,

681
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: Go talk to Tom Coughlin, Go talk to Jon Gruden. Uh,

682
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, guy, I laugh because it's hard now when

683
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: you talk about Grood, Pete, Carroll, whoever. Just get a feel,

684
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: see if that's something you're interested in doing. Just go talk.

685
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: All you have to do is go through the interview

686
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: interview process, get measured so they get a feel. Like,

687
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, if Kyler Murray's five nine, everyone might tell him, listen, Kyler,

688
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: there's no chance I can draft you in the first

689
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: round of five nine. But maybe he measures in it,

690
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, five eleven, and people go, God, he's not

691
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: as short as I think. But just if it's if

692
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: it's the it's that you want to scratch, do that

693
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: at least now. If at the end of the day

694
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Speaker 1: you're like, I don't really want to be a third

695
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: round pick whatever, then then go play baseball. But here's

696
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: what I do know that if you do get if

697
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: people are talking about you being drafted in the first round,

698
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: and me personally, if he has measured over five ten,

699
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: I think he would be a first round pick. I've

700
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: said over and over he's a better NFL prospect than

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00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson went pick three two. I'd also

702
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: say Kyler, listen, fast guy should always run because running

703
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: at the combine or a pro day when you're fast

704
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: only helps you. Like Kyler, if you're gonna run a

705
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: four four row or four three eight or four four two,

706
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: you will set the entire Just all you do is

707
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: run a forty, run one forty like Deon Sanders, and

708
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: then bounce. You will set the combine a buzzing. But

709
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: just just go down that road and talk to people.

710
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: You don't even have to sign with an agent. Just

711
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: go and talk to people, and then you can find

712
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: out if that's something you want to do or not do.

713
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Because here's what I do know about the Oakland A's,

714
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: And the great part about baseball and for on Billy

715
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Bean side, is the Oakland A's made the playoffs. Without

716
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, they will make the playoffs or at least

717
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: contend to make the playoffs again in two thousand nineteen

718
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: without Kyler Murray. In baseball, unlike in football and basketball,

719
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: if your first round pick bus it doesn't really affect

720
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: or impact that current team. It may have domino effects

721
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: down the road. But the Buster Posey's of the world,

722
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: the Bryce Harper's, none of those guys played in the

723
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: show their first year in professional baseball. They all spent

724
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: time in the minor leagues. Now, Kyler, if you are

725
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: questioning going to ride busses, because you will have to

726
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: ride busses, you will have to learn to hit the

727
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: breaking pitch. Just entertain playing football now, I don't think

728
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: in this day and age. And I was texting with

729
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: a buddy that said, like, go google Dion Sanders stats

730
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: in baseball. They're much better than I think the casual

731
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: people think. He once led the league in triples. Uh.

732
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: He was a good player for playoff level teams now,

733
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: it was easier back then. The commitment. Also, he played

734
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: corner where it's just like show up and check the

735
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, where in Kyler's uh instance, that

736
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: at quarterback, the time commitment you have to make to

737
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: the team is three and in baseball, given that his

738
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: growth as a player, he would need to spend time

739
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: like I don't think it's necessarily plausible, uh to do both.

740
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Now again, back to what I originally said, if he

741
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: wanted to do both, go ahead now it could, I

742
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: would say, the one risk would be Kyler. Again, if

743
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: he was asking me to advise him, I would say,

744
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: if you try to do both, you might limit your

745
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 1: potential in both and end up failing in both. Well,

746
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: if you went all in and one and then fail,

747
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: whether that's football or baseball, you can always go back

748
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: to the other. So I was taught at a young

749
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: age the reason to always, even if you don't like school,

750
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: just to try in school is the better your grades are,

751
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: the more options you end up having. And I'm someone

752
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: that hated school. I like going to school to be

753
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: around my buddies and be around girls, but I never

754
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: liked school from junior high to high school to even college.

755
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: But as I got older and older, especially even in college,

756
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to work in football. So to get to

757
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: get a graduate assistant job, I had to have good

758
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: enough grades to get into a graduate program, so I

759
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: had to try. If I hadn't tried in college in undergrad,

760
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: I might not have been able to get into college

761
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: football because my grades wouldn't have been good enough to

762
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: get into a graduate school. Even at a school like

763
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: Fresno State. I had to have above a three oh

764
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: just to get into the graduate program. And again, for

765
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: someone that does not care about school that that was

766
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: somewhat of a challenge. And I'm not the brightest guy,

767
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: but but I really think that Kyler Murray, regardless of

768
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: what this grade comes back, and I think best case,

769
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: obviously it's first round. Worst case it's probably like third

770
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: or fourth round, regardless what it is. If you are

771
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: even thinking about it, just go to the combine and

772
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: just talk to Belichick and company and I just mean

773
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: every coach because every team would want to talk and

774
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: just gonna feel for it then and just see if

775
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: that's something you want to do, because it's pretty clear

776
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: that Boris wants him to play baseball. Of course he does.

777
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: That's how Boris would make money. He's not gonna make

778
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: any money if he's a starting quarterback for the Miami Dolphins.

779
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: His dad, it feels like wants him to at least

780
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: try baseball. Uh, that's sure what it seems like to

781
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: everything I've read. But let's face it, I played baseball

782
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: and football growing up. Football just a little more fun.

783
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what it's like. I never played quarterback,

784
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: what it's like playing quarterback. So just just try it out,

785
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: just just taste it, and if that's something you want

786
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: to do, then do it. But go to the combine.

787
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Let's get into uh something interesting. Talking to a buddy

788
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: this week in the NFL, and listen, I have a

789
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: football philosophy that I do not believe in taking running

790
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: backs in the first round. That doesn't mean that it

791
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: doesn't work, because it clearly does. Like Todd Gurley has

792
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: been a fantastic pick, right, Uh, Christian McCaffrey has been

793
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: a home run pick. There's no chance. And I'm from

794
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: the Bay and I watched basically every game Christian McCaffrey

795
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: ever played at Stanford. I would not have taken him

796
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: in the first round, let alone in the top ten.

797
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: I thought it was crazy. I look kind of like

798
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: an idiot now as well. I'm not always gonna be

799
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: There are certain players they are gonna make me looked up.

800
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: But I never would have messed with Leonard Fournette. Hell,

801
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mess with Zeke at War and he's he's unreal,

802
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: He's a monster. But I was adamant that the New

803
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: York Jets, or excuse me, the New York Giants, were

804
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: crazy for taking Sake Kwan over Sam Donald. I still

805
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: believe on on basically every level, that you all, especially

806
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: because I believe in Sam Donald, that you take the

807
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: quarterback super high, especially over running back. But I will

808
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: say this, every time I watched Sea Kwon Barkley, I think,

809
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Holy Moley, is this guy elite? Talk to my buddy

810
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: in the league, he's he brought up a good point.

811
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, how good is Sa Kwan Barkley? And he said,

812
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: without hesitation, he thinks he's the best running back in

813
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. And he's like, did you watch Ted Gurley

814
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: the other night against the Bears? He wanted no part

815
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: of that smoke in that cold where Barkley is thriving

816
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: in the cold on a team that actually now is

817
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: playing really good football. When you look at Sea Kwon

818
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Barkley and if you just watch him, you go, oh

819
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: my god, this guy is incredible. He can absolutely fly,

820
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: he can run inside, he can run outside, he can

821
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: catch the ball, and he can block. I don't think

822
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: people realize se Kwan Barkley has seventy eight catches this year,

823
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: seventy eight, and it's not like they're just a little

824
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: dump downs. He's averaging over eight yards to catch. He

825
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: also has already over eleven yards and and nine rushing touchdowns.

826
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: He has fourteen runs over twenty plus yards, obviously has

827
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: a couple multiple long runs. The guy is a game changing,

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00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: all time great, and as my buddy reiterated, he's like,

829
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, he's a Hall of famer. And

830
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: I think you have to be careful when you say that.

831
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's disputable here. So if you

832
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: are going to take a running back over a quarterback again,

833
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm not playing Monday Morning quarterback. I would not have

834
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: done it, And even looking back, I still would either

835
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: have Sam Donald big picture, because the quarterback is that important.

836
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: But if you are going to make that move and

837
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: infairment fairness to Gettleman, you better draft a Hall of famer.

838
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: And he was adamant that it was like the best

839
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: player he'd ever evaluated and he was gonna be a

840
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. Well, he's not wrong, because Sae

841
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, simply put, is already on that path. And

842
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: I know Bill Simmons the City's gonna be the best

843
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: running back he's ever seen. You you could argue he's

844
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: the best running back as a rookie since Adrian Peterson,

845
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: and Adrian Peterson is obviously headed to the Hall of Fame.

846
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Girly a little skewed because he was injured coming in

847
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: that year. Zeek great player, but benefited that first year

848
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: from having just a dominant, dominant offensive line. Sae Kwon

849
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: Barkley does not played with a good offensive line. He

850
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: plays with a quarterback who's actually playing a lot better,

851
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: but he's still Eli Manning and his offensive line is

852
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: not good. He is an incredible player, and I think

853
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: it's clear really just him, even Christian McCaffrey. I wouldn't

854
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: put Christian McCaffrey on his level, but both those two guys,

855
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey's having a Marshall Folk level season just

856
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: absolutely just a dominant fantasy yere Marshall falk lt just

857
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, an elite fantasy year and again, you guys

858
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: know me, I'm not just coming at it from the

859
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective though I do like daily fantasy. But like,

860
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: if you produce fantasy huge fantasy numbers as a running back,

861
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: you're dominating. And Christian McCaffrey's dominating and he's playing really good.

862
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: But Sae Kwon Barkley is on a completely different level.

863
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: Like there is not a general manager in the NFL,

864
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: and I like Zeke. That would take Zeke over Sa Kwan,

865
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: And that includes Jerry if you really just handed him

866
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: a drink and said, Jerry, let's be honest, let's take

867
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: the emotion out of it, and let's be honest. Sa

868
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Kwan is a better player. Sake Uan is a better

869
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: player than Todd Gurley. And I was someone that was

870
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: somewhat down on Todd Gurley. I thought he didn't have

871
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: great vision, uh and his instincts were just kind of average.

872
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: He was just an elite physical specimen. He's got a

873
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: lot better at that, he really has, like McVeigh and

874
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: that coaching staff have created a much better player over

875
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: the last twelve months. It really last two years, Like

876
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: he he's improved a lot. But say Quanta is really special.

877
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: And for as much crap as I gave Dave Gettleman

878
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: when he drafted him, I gotta give him credit because

879
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: everything that he build this guy to be, uh, and

880
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: what he thought he was he is. Uh. He's a freak.

881
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: He's the easiest offensive rookie of the year that will

882
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: you know voting? If you vote for that, you'll ever

883
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: vote for. It's a no brainer. I mean, he might

884
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: get to a hundred catches and rush from fire yards

885
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: and the eye test, the stat test, the every test

886
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: he passes with flying colors. They're gonna do a couple

887
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bags before I get out of here on

888
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: a Thursday night, and as you're listening on a Friday.

889
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't want the podcast to go on forever, but

890
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: always gonna do Middlecoff mail bags every show at John

891
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: Middlecoff Instagram. Slide up in those d M s. Baby, Okay,

892
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: here we go. Where do you think Levian Bell will

893
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: end up? Do you think he would be a good

894
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: pickup for a team like the Chiefs or the Eagles?

895
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: Will he be worth the contract he'll be asking for

896
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: after missing a season. Start with the latter part of

897
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: that question. I don't think he's worth the contract he'll

898
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: be asking for probably like fifty million guaranteed more. And

899
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: Ted Gurley, as you saw tonight with the Chiefs that

900
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Williams kild they have that went to l s U

901
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: got he's pretty good. So no, I don't think the

902
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: Chiefs would. I mean, and he's always finding guys in

903
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: the later rounds. The Eagles, they have had a history

904
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: of liking splashy players. Uh, it's gonna be a little

905
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: difficult with their cap It's the NFL. You can always maneuver,

906
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: cut guys, make room, but there are so many teams,

907
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: as I talked about earlier in the podcast, the the

908
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: the the amount of teams with cap room has never

909
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: been as high. But I do think for the most part,

910
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: most general managers in the NFL are gonna be hesitant

911
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: when it comes to paying running backs. Uh. You don't

912
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: see it very often, and when you do see it,

913
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: it's with your own guy. You know. If this was

914
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, I say someone's gonna break him off.

915
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: But these gms, we have so much information. It is

916
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: somewhat from what I've heard and listen, I watched a

917
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: ton of college football. I don't see that many study

918
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: running backs in college coming out in this draft. Seems

919
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: like a lot of the good ones are underclassmen in

920
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: the sense where they're not even draft eligible. Uh so

921
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, more than the Eagles, probably like the culture

922
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: of the Jets, who are a little more desperate. Uh.

923
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like one of those places. If

924
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: I had to guess right now, I'd say around thirty

925
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. And here's the thing to remember, Uh,

926
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: he lost. He's fifteen million in the hole, Like he

927
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: lost fourteen point whatever it was this season on the

928
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: second franchise tag that he would have had. So that's

929
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: he's in the red right now that that was a

930
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: season that did not exist. So if he gets thirty million,

931
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: it's actually like he only got an extra fifteen million

932
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: because he's making back what he would have made. Hey, John,

933
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: what do you think about the idea of college football

934
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: adding something similar to the NFL salary cap, maybe limit

935
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: the number of five star recruits and transfers. I've never

936
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: this is kind of smart question, basically something to help

937
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: introduce a little more parody into college game. It gets

938
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: too repetitive with the same teams always at the top,

939
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: especially with Alabama's complete dominance over the last decade. Here's

940
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: the one thing I would say is not every player

941
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: Alabama Science is a five star, like the stars are

942
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: a little predicated on the people running rivals or seven

943
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: sports or those might even be the same now, but

944
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, the recruiting services, I think that would be

945
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: really difficult. Uh. Maybe the transfer rule can change a

946
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: little bit. But right now, even if you transfer schools,

947
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: if you're not a graduate, you have to sit out

948
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: a year. So even if you leave school X to

949
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: go to another school, like the quarterback for Washington Easton

950
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: he left Georgia and went to Washington, Well, he couldn't

951
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: play this year. Now. Granted, what do you beat out

952
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Jake Browning? I mean, in theory he probably should have,

953
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: but Chris Peterson was gonna play Jake Browning no matter what.

954
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: So I like the rule where you have to sit

955
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: out a year, and the graduate transfer rule doesn't really

956
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: bother me in the sense that you only got one

957
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: year to play. Uh Shaye Patterson. This year was kind

958
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: of an outlier because of what happened at Old Miss.

959
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: Usually you have to sit out a year, like look

960
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: at Baker Mayfield several years ago when he transferred as

961
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: a as a walk on. So it'd be pretty difficult.

962
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how you do that, because again,

963
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: like salary cap, there is a actual amount of money.

964
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: Some people might have a guy list as a five

965
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: star war the other guy has him listen as a

966
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: four star. Now that being said, Alabama Ohio State are

967
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: getting the best players right now. There's no Alabama, Ohio State,

968
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: Clemson Jewel you. I mean, they're by far. I mean

969
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: you just watch them on television. You're like, holy hell,

970
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: the guy doesn't even look like a human. Where are

971
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: they getting these people? But like I I don't know.

972
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah. As a wise man once told me,

973
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: the thing about Saban is the players aren't choosing him,

974
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: He's choosing them. For the most part, that's true. Like

975
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: Saban chooses you, you don't choose them. But for a

976
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: lot of guys non Alabama, the school kind of you know,

977
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: they choose with the school. So in theory, it's the

978
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: players picking where they're going to school. So to dictate,

979
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: to tell a guy, you know, if Ohio State wants

980
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: you that, you can't go to Ohio State because they've

981
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: already hit their limit of good players. I mean, seems

982
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: a little unfair to an eighteen year old. And the

983
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 1: other thing is a lot of guys transfer. Just because

984
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: you transfer doesn't mean you're good. I mean a lot

985
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: of guys transferred to you know, smaller schools and they're

986
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: just never that good. I remember when I first started

987
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: working at Frozen State, we had several big time Division

988
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: and one transfers and you know what turned out a

989
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: lot of times that they just weren't that good at players.

990
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they were average players at fres State. They

991
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: definitely couldn't play for the Miami's or the Oregans or

992
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: whatever schools they were going to. And if you if

993
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, if you can put the years I was

994
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: at Fresn State, you know the players I'm talking about,

995
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: But they're just it just shows you. And you see

996
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: it a lot with college quarterbacks. They transfer and they're

997
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: just not that good. So, you know, the reason Alabama

998
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: is so good is not obviously the talent. Same with

999
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State and same with USC. You know, with the

1000
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll days, they have a lot of talent, but

1001
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: they have the best coaching. Like saving is just a

1002
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: better coach than everyone else. So it's just I like

1003
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: where your heads at and I'm all four thinking outside

1004
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: the box and making college football a little more interesting. God,

1005
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: I love some pack twelve teams that throw their hat

1006
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: in the ring. But I just don't know how that. Like,

1007
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: in theory, that kind of makes some sense, but in

1008
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: reality and in practice, I don't know if it's really possible.

1009
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: Last last question, what do you think about your boy

1010
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: Flip getting canned? I talked about that earlier, so I'll

1011
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: go one more question. Uh, okay, here's one. Can you

1012
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: share what brand of microphone you use? We're always thinking about,

1013
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: you know, answering different type of questions. You can ask

1014
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: me anything on the middlecoff mail back. The school where

1015
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: I teach is trying to set up a media room space,

1016
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: and I would love for us to be able to

1017
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: host our own podcast. I don't want too many podcasts

1018
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: out there, you know. We gotta try to make some

1019
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: money here. I have the blue microphone. It's the blue USB.

1020
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: It just plugs into my computer boom, I I recorded.

1021
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, not even that expensive, like

1022
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: a Hunter Bucks. Probably should get a higher level microphone,

1023
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: but this is a very affordable microphone that I use

1024
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: for multiple podcasts and anything I ever record on my computer.

1025
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: And it literally plugs right into my Apple I'm a

1026
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: big Apple guy. Uh, I haven't been for long, but

1027
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: since I've been doing stuff on my own, it's the

1028
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: best product to use. USB cord right into my computer

1029
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: and boom. Uh. It's really easy to use and you

1030
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: can get it like a Best Buy or hell even Amazon.

1031
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: I'll take a picture for you on Instagram a little later,

1032
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: but it's the blue blue USB uh microphone. Well, it's

1033
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: been a long podcast. What a day, man, What a

1034
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: night that that was a beside Walter Anderson, who is

1035
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: easily the worst referee in any sport that consistently does

1036
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: big games, probably in the history of sports. What a game,

1037
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: What a What a night for Rivers. Pretty cool night

1038
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: still just for Arrowhead. Just just a fantastic, fantastic ball game.

1039
00:56:45,680 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. See you next week. Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Eight