1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian. Here's a local Chevy dealer that's advertising 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: used cars, so you can buy a two thousand five 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Chevy Aveo for five grand. That car Doctor, where's that 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: five car that we all had the opportunity to purchase 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: and drive and abuse and ham out of the next 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: guy for five bucks? And then you start looking at 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: the numbers and you start thinking, you know you need 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: you need twelve grand to buy a six year old car. Today, 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. 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Uh, 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: this hour, Tom is at this hour we're giving away 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: doing the weeks car giveaway. I think so right, providing 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: Tony and I don't take it and go out and 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: play with it first, Okay, well, we'll put it back 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: in the box and stop playing with it because I 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: don't want you to break it. Now, come on now 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: you never want to have any fun. We're giving away 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: one eighteenth scale nineteen thirty nine Forward collectible from the 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: folks over at Wiks filter those racing discs and the 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: hood and the trunk open and uh the detailed forward 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: flathead engine. So, um, I will be giving that away 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: this hour. You can look forward to that. And we've 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: got a couple of the surprises when I do this hour. Um, 52 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: maybe we'll pry out a couple of T shirts. We'll 53 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: see how the hour goes. Um, we're actually looking into 54 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: selling the T shirts. There's so many demand now, there's 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: so many requests for them, so we're trying to set 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: up something easy to do because our biggest fear is 57 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: trying to go to sell them, thinking we're gonna sell 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: three a week and all of a sudden find out 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: there's uh slightly more than that and we'll end up 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: stopping fixing cars and have to put T shirts and envelopes. 61 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: So we're looking at that too. We might do that 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: out on Amazon. We'll see what the coming week spring. UM, 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit before we get 64 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: down to the calls, which were already backed up. I 65 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit or real quick if 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I can about drive cycle monitors and explain it to you, 67 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: because I think there's some confusion out there about what 68 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: takes place, what what transcends the process in order to 69 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: get a vehicle to set a fault code or get 70 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: it ready for state inspection. And the where and the 71 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: wine and the house and the wind monitors are self tests. 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: So you know, think about it like this. When you 73 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: get up in the morning, you go through your process. 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: You you brush your teeth, you take a shower, you 75 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: might shave all right, you get dressed and so on. 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: That's your self test every day. That's how you know 77 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: you're you know, you do things in some sort of 78 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: logical sequence, in some sort of order, and you're probably 79 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: pretty consistent. You go downstairs, you have a cup of coffee, 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: et cetera. A car does it the same way. So 81 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: if you ever stop to think about how or why 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: does a car set a fault code, it goes through 83 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: its wake up call, it goes through its auto exact 84 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: dot bat file. Boy, I'm dating myself. Remember that back 85 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: in the days of dos right, auto exact dot batten, 86 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: I remember modifying those to get computers to do what 87 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: we wanted them to do so. A monitor for the 88 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: oxygen sensor, let's say, to determine if the oxygen sensor 89 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: and its related circuits are any good might include things 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: like it has to be less than thirty degrees fahrenheit, 91 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: the vehicle has to have sat for longer than two 92 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: hours a cold start, the vehicle might have to be 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: going faster than twenty five and within thirty seconds to 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: a minute. They're going to test to see what is 95 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: the O two sensor activity. Do they see the sensor 96 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: awake and working. At the same time as they're doing that, 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: they're looking at some of the other onboard circuits. So 98 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: you might have more than one monitor at a time 99 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: actually running, the actually running while the car is driving 100 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: down the road. If the monitor passes if in the 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: case of the O two censor, the car sits there 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: and says, okay, the O two censor woke up fast enough, 103 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: it reached its peak, it reached its low, and it 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: had enough switch rate. In other words, it passed the 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: middle of its voltage scale enough times in a given 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: time frame that it is deemed good. It will pass 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: that sensor and drop the flag, or actually it drops 108 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: the flag and then the size of the censor passed 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: or not. In the case where the monitor runs pretty consistent, 110 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: you always do your you always brush your teeth, you 111 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: always take a shower, You do things in the same manner. 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: The one morning you forget to put the cap back 113 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: on the toothpaste tube and you're supposed to. You completed 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: the task, but you failed the test. And that's just 115 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: what a monitor does. It will check to see is 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the cap on the toothpaste to the D two center 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: do what it's supposed to do, it went through or 118 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: looking at it over a given time frame, and it 119 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: decides whether or not it passed. It completed the monitor. 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: Whether it passed or not is another story. Now. Running 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: monitors can be difficult. Running self tests can be difficult. 122 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I pulled a drive cycle for a two thousand one 123 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: Lumina this week at the shop. I was talking about 124 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: it in the previous hour and the cycle that the 125 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: test started off something along the lines of idle for 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: two and a half minutes from a cold start, and 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: think about how you're gonna do this. Accelerate at half 128 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: throttle to fifty miles an hour d cell, bring the 129 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: car up at quarter throttle to thirty miles an hour 130 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: steady state cruise for two minutes D cell without touching 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: the brake. Accelerate at three quarter throught to sixty miles 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: an hour for five minutes D cell without touching the break. 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Accelerate up to thirty mile D cell. You're done, they say, 134 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: the whole things. You take twelve minutes. Now, I want 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: to know where you can idle for two minutes, accelerate 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: the fifty D cell without touching the break without getting 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: run over. Accelerate the thirty D cell, accelerate the sixty 138 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: D cell. I don't know any place you can do that. Well, 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: probably the g improving grounds or the middle of Yucka Flats. 140 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: But you know, in the real world around here, we 141 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: call that rubber neckers. All right, it's and I tried it. 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: I was out on two eight seven North and North 143 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Jersey during the week trying to do that, and as 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm de selling off on the side, almost on the 145 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: shoulder to eighteen wheelers, decided to try and run me over, 146 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: which was exciting. And I'm just minding my business with 147 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: the flashers on, trying to stay out of harm's on 148 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: a three lane highway. I almost question our monitors really 149 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: unnecessary evil, but I guess they can't figure out any 150 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: other or a better way to do it. I can 151 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: tell you this that monitors and self tests and getting 152 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: the car ready for inspection like that, if you wait 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: until the last minute, can cost you some money. I 154 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: had over an hour of road testing in this one 155 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: particular vehicle and I finally got everything to run is 156 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I wanted it to and needed it to in order 157 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: to pass it for inspection. And I suppose my point 158 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: is that a, if you know the car has to 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: go for inspection, waiting till the very end probably isn't 160 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: a very good idea. And I understand that, you know, 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: life gets in the way sometimes and uh there are 162 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: moments where it's a little stressful and you've got to 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: do it a certain way. But understand that you're putting 164 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: the mechanic under a tougher condition and they've got more 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: to do, and you're also setting yourself up if the 166 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: mechanic doesn't really have the desire that perhaps that car 167 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: isn't going to get driven proper really and it may 168 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: or may not pass as a result in little cost 169 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: to even more money. Bottom line, monitors are something that 170 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: we all have to deal with. They're getting better. On 171 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: newer cars the cycle is shorter and the response rate 172 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: is quicker, but there are some complications, especially in the 173 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: area of evaporative emissions, where cars might have to be 174 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: left overnight. Do you know some monitors run now while 175 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the car is off and parked and you won't see 176 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: the result of that until the next time you go 177 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: to start it. In the area of evaporative emissions, that 178 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: happens quite frequently on newer cars. So bottom line, if 179 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: your vehicles coming due for inspection, if you're just coming 180 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: off fixing the check engine light yourself, consider driving that 181 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: car seventy miles under varying conditions. You can look up 182 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: specific drive cycle conditions for your vehicle any good shop 183 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: operating system all data Mitchell identifis whatever the case might 184 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: be in terms of looking it up and follow it 185 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: to the best of your ability. But understand that you 186 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: want to do it when there's no traffic out on 187 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: the road, because, as um I point out, even when 188 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: I did it with no traffic out on the road, 189 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: traffic wasn't very happy. Eight five five zero nine zero zero. 190 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car. Doctor we'll be back 191 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: to kick the garage doors open right after this. Well 192 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: day Star, welcome back car. Doctorate five zero nine zero 193 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: zero is the phone number. Let's get over and talk 194 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: to Alan and Shenando, Ohio. Allen, welcome to the car doctor, sir. 195 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? This is Allen. I wanted 196 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: to talk about the two thousand four Chevy Trailblazer today. Sure, 197 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, the lights flicker on it when 198 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: the vehicles running, and it seems like the faster you 199 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: the higher the rpm, the more it flickers. Okay, Now 200 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: when you say lights, all the lights, interior lights, exterior 201 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: lights correct? Huh, all of them? All right? And uh 202 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: all the time, Alan, whenever you're operating the vehicle, yes, 203 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: all right. If the engine is off and you're sitting 204 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: there with the headlights on, do they just stay on steady? Yes, 205 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: they're just theah, they're just steady, all right. Um. First 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: thing i'd look at is just making sure I've got 207 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: good clean battery connections. Number one. Number two, I'd be 208 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: thinking about a diode in the alternator causing an issue. 209 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: Do you have any Do you have any sort of 210 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: a scope or any ability to check the diode. I 211 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm just trying to find out what 212 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: what to do and where to go. Okay, um, you 213 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: know the concern here is do we have is it 214 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: noise and feedback creating the issue? And I'd probably be 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: inclined to unplug the alternator and let your mechanic do this. 216 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: Is just disabled the alternator so it doesn't charge, start 217 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: the car up, and do the lights operating normally? All right? 218 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: If if with the alternator disconnected and no power being 219 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: applied to it, obviously, what sort of voltage do we have? 220 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: And you're gonna be running a battery voltage at that point. 221 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: If it's a cleaner voltage, it may not necessarily be 222 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: a light flickering issue. When you say flickering out, is 223 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: that it's physically flickering like the light is turning off? 224 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: Or is it that the light is brighter and dimmer 225 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: it pulsates it, it goes brighter and dimmer right like 226 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: actually turning off. Right. It sounds to me like this 227 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: is a charging system issue more so than bad connection 228 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: or bad headlights switch something like that. What I would 229 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: be what I would do is I would also hook 230 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: up a voult meter to a power source battery possibly 231 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: probably and monitor that does that seem like it's in 232 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: a state of flux, it's always changing thirteen point eight, 233 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: fourteen point one, fourteen point two, third team point nine. 234 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: That type of thing is the voltage constantly sweeping up 235 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: and down? Is the engine? Is the engine speed steady? 236 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: Is it a good smooth idol? When it's when it's 237 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: a good asole? I mean it's it's just constant. And 238 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: then when you you know, when you rev the engine 239 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: up or put more RPMs to it, it just it 240 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: clickers up even faster. Okay, So it's it's something in 241 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: relation to engine operation. Yeah, i'd be I'd be thinking 242 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: about alternator, and I'd be thinking about the general electrical 243 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: system itself. Um any check engine lights on in the vehicle, Okay. 244 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean I would still go and pull codes, just 245 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: because that's what I'm a fan of doing, regardless, and 246 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't just look at engine faults. I would do 247 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: I would use a scan tool something that will give 248 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you a complete system code scan to look at all 249 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: the modules on the car body module PCM, et cetera. 250 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: But I would be looking more towards alternator as a 251 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: possible source. And like I said, I would start by 252 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: unplugging the alternator. Does that make a change. Understand When 253 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: you do and you run the car, you're gonna see 254 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: the charging system light come on on the dashboard and 255 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: that's understandable. Yeah, the alternator, I think it's sounds like 256 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: the bearing starting to go out of it anyway. But 257 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: well then that's there's always that. You know, you may 258 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: want to take the belt off and spend it if 259 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: that alternator is noisy. Now that now the next question 260 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be what alternator do you put on it? 261 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: If it's bad? Just make sure you look very carefully 262 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: because rotating electrical alternators and starters, that business has really 263 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: changed over the last couple of years, and finding decent 264 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: quality components is getting more and more difficult. Okay, all right, 265 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: If if we were at the shop, I would be 266 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: on a GM product. I would be putting a Delco 267 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: piece on it. I wouldn't I wouldn't be thinking about 268 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: anything else. Um, really taking a harsh look at rotating 269 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: electrical and trying to deal with top level stuff because 270 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: all these cheaper alternators and starters that are being rebuilt. 271 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: If if you ever have you ever been to Chinatown? Allen, Alright, Well, 272 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: if you buy an alternator or a starter from a 273 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: non named brand, you'll be visiting it very soon because 274 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be in the car. Um. You open 275 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: it up and it's everything's made in China, which is 276 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: our new fifty first state. So um, just be cautious 277 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: of what you replace it with. Probably your best bet 278 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: is do you have an O'Riley ooto parts by you? Okay? 279 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: I would go over and talk to the guys over 280 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: to O'rileyoto Parts and ask them because they'll know what sells. 281 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: They might have a particular brand, maybe they don't have Delco, 282 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: maybe they have something else. Let's ask him. Listen, I'm 283 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: not here to do this three times. And it's not 284 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: necessarily about price. I want the best that you've got. 285 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: They're always fair and when I've worked with them and 286 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: they will tell you straight, hey, use this, not this 287 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and so on or here's why we sell this because 288 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: it's better because we've got a track record on it. Um. 289 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: But quality of parts and where you get it is 290 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: getting very important. You can also, if you want do 291 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: a little research, get out to O'Riley Auto Dot com 292 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: and look them up on their website and view it 293 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: from there as well. All right, sir, hey, Alan, stay 294 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: on the and Harry has given me the high sign. 295 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna be sending out that Wicks Filters die cast 296 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: model to you, the one eighteen scale, the thirty nine 297 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: four with the V eight flathead engine in it. We 298 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: thought you might enjoy that, Harry said, And um, it 299 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: sounds like that'll take your mind off what's going on 300 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: with the trail Blazer. I wish you well and hope 301 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: you enjoy it, right, sir, take good care. Let's get 302 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: over and talk to Don about an oh four f 303 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: one fifty down. Welcome to Ron, Welcome to the mornin 304 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: any and the car doctor. How can I help you, sir? Hey, 305 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I do have something new to share with you. Oh 306 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: four f one fifty. We had a kicking in the 307 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: engine and it was under warranty. And uh, the guy 308 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: asked me on the phone if I changed the oil 309 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: late later, I said yes I did. He said I 310 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: did not use a motorcraft oil filter and it so 311 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: that it checked out in there. So that's probably what 312 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: your problem is. But in order to cover it on 313 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: the warranty, had to take it to them. I took 314 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: it to them. They changed my oil filter, put a 315 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: motorcraft on there, had it for two days, and told 316 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: me problem fixed. I got in the truck from the 317 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: dealership and it checked again, and I walked back again, 318 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: and I said, you didn't fix nothing. I called the 319 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: warranty company up. Warranty company said that Ford issued a 320 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: bulletin for a fifteen second tick or a three second chick, 321 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: and then the motor when you first turned it over, 322 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: which normal conditions. And I said no, because it didn't 323 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: do this until this time. So I got the warranty 324 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: company and the dealer owner involved and I said that 325 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: there's something went wrong with this motor. Hee. They said 326 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: that it's a deal to rip the front end off 327 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: of this motor to check it. And I said, listen, 328 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm challenging you. There's something wrong. So they tore part 329 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: and found an oh ring got caught up in the 330 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: oil path that the time of chain has looped with. Yeah, 331 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: that's is that? Is that the one up in the 332 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: cylinder head on? Yeah? Yeah? Um, you know it's funny 333 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: just as just as a quick asside. There's a really 334 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: good YouTube video that and I think if you Google search, 335 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: you know Ford what is this? This is a five 336 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: four Yeah. If you search on YouTube Ford five four 337 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: valve train oil problems. I forget the exact wording of 338 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: how I found it. They will show you which galley 339 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: plug you pull out there, seeing that as a common fault. 340 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: Don stay on the line. I want to talk to 341 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: you after the break. It sounds like there's more here, 342 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: but um, just as an aside, the YouTube visit, uh 343 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: really pays off for some really neat things there, um, 344 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: but worth looking at. Don you stay put. I'm on 345 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor five five zero nine nine 346 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: zero zero. We'll be back right after this. Don't go away. 347 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: Flu back the Car Doctor eight five zero nine nine 348 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: zero zero. As we move along this hour, we're back 349 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: with don don your comments about the O four f 350 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: one fifty refresh everybody's memory. We're talking about you had 351 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: some issues at the at the dealership and the engine 352 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: oil ports were restricted and plugged. I understand you had 353 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: a phone problem and you had to drop out. Um. 354 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: One thing to keep in mind is that with regard 355 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: to anyone that tells you, you know bad oil filter 356 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: and the filter was a problem. Hopefully you know and 357 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: new and it sounds like you did because you were 358 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: You were smart enough to say, hey, I'm challenging you 359 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: to this. When a manufacturer tells you it's got to 360 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: have their oil filter on it unless they put that 361 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: in writing, keep in mind that's a violation of the 362 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: Magnets and Moss Warranty Act. I can almost guarantee and 363 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: I've yet to ever see a manufacturer come out and 364 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: say you've got to run our oil filter or voids 365 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: warranty be because they can't. The Magnazine Most Warrant Act 366 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: of the mid seventies, I blew it was seventy five 367 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: or seventy six. Uh, stated that consumers, when faced with 368 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: the situation where they're told they have to use a 369 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: product specifically from that manufacturer, that it will be um 370 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: it voids warrant to understand, don's back down. Your phone's 371 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: working again. You're there, buddy, Yes, sir, there you go. Yeah, 372 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: a little a little bit of a phone glitch. So 373 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: you told the dealership no, and you made him take 374 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: the engine apart, and you found the restricted oil orifice. 375 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Uh where does it stand now? And they finally fix it, 376 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: absolutely fixed it, and it didn't charge me anything to 377 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: cover the co payment on the insurance because they were 378 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: trying to tell me it was all my oil filter. 379 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: Charge me fifty dollars to take my oil filter off 380 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: and put a motorcraft on it. What what brand oil 381 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: filter was it? Did I have on there? Yeah? The 382 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: one I'm not I think it was a wicked up filder, right, 383 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: And I was gonna say if it's and you know what, 384 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Wicks. Wicks like you 385 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: know what, in all honesty, Wicks might make the filters 386 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: for motorcraft and I can't say I know that for sure, 387 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: but I can tell you that there are only two 388 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: or three filter manufacturers left in the country, if not 389 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: the world, I think sometimes and a lot of what 390 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: they do, people like Wicks are making the filters for 391 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: the O E s and the OE just slaps their 392 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: label on it. As a matter of fact, you know 393 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: what Wicks what Wicks were the ones that came up 394 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: with the idea, if I'm not mistaken, of a silicon 395 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: drain back valve in the oil filters, which is a 396 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: better style rubber, a better quality rubber. And you know 397 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: their engineers are the ones that created and solved a 398 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of the problems by inventing that. Um but as 399 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: you say, they changed the filter from whatever you had 400 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: on the wicks and they put a motocraft on you 401 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: still had the problem. So you know at that point 402 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: the dealer was just blowing smoke, as we say, right, 403 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: because they would listen to me when I had him 404 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: on the phone. I told them that it was making 405 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: that before I changed the oil, and they just assumed 406 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: that it was because I changed that little filter and 407 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: I said no, it wasn't. Well. Good for you for 408 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: standing up for him. And keep in mind that you know, 409 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: anytime the manufacturer says you've gotta run our filter or 410 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: our product or are are our parts, they've got to 411 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: give them to you for free, because that's covered under 412 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: the magnazine must warrant T Hey, Don, I gotta go 413 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: stay on the line. Do we have the ability to 414 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: take Don's address? Don stand in the line. Let's get 415 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: your car doctor T shirt. I like, I like somebody 416 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: with guts that stands up to the big boys, and um, 417 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: you earned yourself a T shirt today. Let's go over 418 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: and talk to Tim in Flint, Michigan. Tim, welcome to 419 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hello? Thanks 420 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: for taking my call. You're welcome. What's going on? Two 421 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: thousand eight? Silverado? Okay? Very good? See what I bought 422 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: about you was the carse about two years ago. Um, 423 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I was told at two different places I needed four balls, 424 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: and I guess that's my first question. There's all four 425 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: were at the same time. I never had that. Well, 426 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: what usually happens? And how many miles are on this 427 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: tim What usually happens is you usually wipe out a lower, 428 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: all right, so you wipe out a lower this is 429 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: a what series? Silverado? Okay? So you know you'll you'll 430 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: wipe out a lower and you're gonna do one on 431 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: the left. Let's say, let's say it's just the left 432 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: side that's got a bad lower. You wanted to you 433 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: want to do both on that same side. And here's 434 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: the reason why. That new joint is going to be 435 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: tighter and a more precise fit than the upper that's 436 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: still in the truck. You're you're now going to place 437 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: dimensional load on that lower ball joint as a result, 438 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: and you'll you'll actually wear out the new low or 439 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: faster by leaving it in with that older hunter and 440 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: five thousand mile joint. That's that's that's that's one school 441 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: of thought, all right, that the industry has. The second is, 442 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: you're on that side, you've got it apart. You're if 443 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: it takes you an hour to get to that lower, 444 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: you're probably a half hour to get to the upper. 445 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: Why not just do it all? Right? Here's but but 446 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: to say that it needs all four what you do 447 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: to the left doesn't predicate what you should what you 448 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: normally should do to the right. Now, some people are 449 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: gonna say, listen, it's got a bucket a quarter on 450 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: and it's eight years old. Uh, you know what, I 451 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: might aso just do them all now and get it 452 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: over with, and then I've got four evenly you know, 453 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: evenly new for lack of a better way to put it, 454 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: ball joints in the truck. What's tin of kind of 455 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: throwing me off? Is this truck right straight as a 456 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: pin and no tire wearer at all? You know, I 457 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: tire layer and what what what started it is? I 458 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: had an alignment put on it and they said it 459 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: was inspects, okay, which I only know exactly what the 460 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: spects are as far as loose to tight you know, 461 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: and then the wheel is straight probably the time. And 462 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: then I looked down and it's a little off the 463 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: left once in a while. Is that due to the 464 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: ball joints loosing? No, something doesn't Something doesn't sound right here. 465 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: You know, if somebody did an alignment and they did 466 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: a real alignment, it was an honest alignment, and they 467 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: did it the proper way, and all the other parameters 468 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: that I've got for doing a good alignment, because a 469 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of places are scam artists with it quite honestly. Um, 470 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, if they've done the alignment properly, they would 471 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: have to tell you you can't align loose, all right, 472 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: So I thought, and that's and that's the express and 473 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: that's the same, and it's the truth. We had a 474 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: two thousand seven Honda Accord in the shop this week. 475 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: Did an oil change. It was in for an oil 476 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: change of rotate in an alignment. Did the oil change, 477 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: did the rotate, shook down the front end like we 478 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: always do. Everything seemed good, proceeded to do the alignment, 479 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: put the alignment heads on it, and we went through 480 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: our turn steps, you know, turning the wheels and getting 481 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: castor and so forth. We could see it jump. And 482 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: then when we loaded, we took the heads back off 483 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: loaded the suspension a different way. We found a bad 484 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: upper ball joint on the left side, all right, and 485 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: as a result we repaired the left side. So you 486 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: can't align loose. It's it's just that, it's just that simple. 487 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Is that it's the days of a steering wheel alignment 488 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: out with the air bags and whatnot. Oh no, you 489 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: can still align of steering wheel. But you know, if 490 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: the steering wheel is straight going down the road and 491 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: you've got it, you know, finding a flat let me 492 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: say it like this. Finding a flat road in New 493 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: Jersey doesn't exist, all right. So you've got to look 494 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: at road crown, all right. And you know I've been 495 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: pulled over more than a few times by the boys 496 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: in blue because I'm right in the middle of the 497 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: road trying to make you know, is the car on 498 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: the center of the crown just right and tracking down 499 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: the road that's straight. If the wheel goes off, then 500 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: it's it's generally the road itself, barring a steering shaft, 501 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: coupling or something else creating that issue. Ball joints won't 502 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: affect steering angle like that. To keep the wheel straight. 503 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: So let me you know, I don't I don't have 504 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: a problem of course replacement if they need replacement, right, 505 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you this, tim and then 506 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna run who's your who's your regular mechanic? Do 507 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: you have a regular mechanical moving into right? So you 508 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: know what, maybe it's time to get a third, impartial 509 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: outside opinion. Do I really have bad ball joints? And 510 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: why find somebody that's actually gonna you know, they can't 511 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: check them up in the air without loading the suspension. 512 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: They've got to put a load on the lower control 513 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: to duplicate road load road road load, or they're going 514 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: to have to do it on a drive on wreck. 515 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: And then let's and then let's find out for sure. Okay, 516 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: but something doesn't make sense here for somebody to align 517 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: this and then turn around and say somebody else says, hey, 518 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: you need ball joints. Somebody's lying. Something doesn't something doesn't 519 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: add up. So go through that. If you get any 520 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: other questions, shoot me an email, Rondo card Doctors show 521 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: dot com or give us a call and we'll go 522 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: from there. Five zero nine zero The car doctor is 523 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: coming back. Don't go away. Hey, welcome back running of 524 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Time for my new fast becoming favorite 525 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: part of the show except have to talk to Tom 526 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: oh go Awa. Yeah, feelings mutual? There you go? How right? Mr? Anyway, 527 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: what do you got? Jeff Herron writes to ronin aian 528 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: on the Facebook page. Hey, Ron, I love the show 529 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: and look forward to listening to the new podcast each week. 530 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: And my question is about the low beam headlights on 531 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: my two thousand three Toyota Corolla. I go to work 532 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and have about a 533 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: thirty mile commute on twisty mountain roads, so my headlights 534 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: are important. The lenses are perfectly clear, and my high 535 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: beams were great, but the low beams have always seen 536 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: weak and don't throw very far. He's looking for recommendations 537 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: either on what to do, what to do about the assemblies. 538 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: Does he need new lenses, does he need new new 539 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: project light projectors behind it? Or should he get new bulbs? Easy? Pas? 540 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: He got it? Okay, here's what you want to do, Jeff. 541 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: It's it's just this simple that you want to get 542 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: out and take a look at what O'Reilly Oto Ports 543 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: has get out to o'rileyoto dot Com and scroll down. 544 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: They carry the full line of Sylvania Silver Star bulbs 545 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: and you can do the z x s, you can 546 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: do the Ultras, you can do the Silver Star playing. 547 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: We like the Silver Star Ultra. It's sort of middle 548 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: of the road and it will give you a better 549 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: low beam, brighter, cleaner, whiter light all right, and help 550 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: you with those dark shadows on mountain roads, just like 551 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: you're describing. And the nice thing is it's o'rileyoto parts, 552 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: so they come with a one year warranty. They back 553 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: it up. You can do a mail order. Um. They're 554 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: very good about it, and you can either that or 555 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: going in and pick them up right off the shelf. 556 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: It's either one. But um, I like the Sylvania Silver 557 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: Star Ultras. And the reason I say it like that 558 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: is because you can put in some of these lights 559 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: that are so bright they're overwhelming, and you will find 560 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: that in some cases, the brighter the light, the shorter 561 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: the lifespan, So you're you're trading off here. We find 562 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: matter of fact, fast Harry's got a set of Silver 563 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: Star Ultras in his Mercury sable and he's had them 564 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: in there for the better part of two years and 565 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: he loves the comments to me now that he's getting 566 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: a little older, helps him see at night. As Um, 567 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happens more. I'm not sure if 568 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: it gets darker earlier or the older we get. It's 569 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: um just darker in general. So but for us older folks, 570 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But Jeff, get out to 571 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: Rileyoto dot com, Rileyoto Parts if you got one of 572 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: your neighborhood Sylvania silver Star Ultra. That will solve the 573 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: problem for you and we can kind of take it 574 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: from there. Hey, let's pull over and take a pause. 575 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Eight five five six zero nine nine zero zero. We'll 576 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: be back to wrap things up right after this. No 577 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 578 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 579 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 580 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no. 581 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You need the card doctor. Eight five zero 582 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero is the phone number. And keep 583 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: in mind that seven. If you need the car doctor, 584 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: give us a quality or nine nine. Keep in mind 585 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: that's seven messaging service. We've attached the system to that 586 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: so that you can leave a message if we're not 587 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: on the air. We're live on the network Saturday afternoons 588 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: to the four pm Eastern time, but leave a message fast. 589 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Harry or producer will call you back and get you 590 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: in line up for the next following show. Let's go 591 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: over and talk to Frank Congress, New York. How are 592 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: you today, Frank, Welcome back to the car Afforio. Good sir? 593 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: What's going? Thank you? Yes, sir? Absolutely, And today's uh 594 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: wear a Ron shirt all day fireman and normally wear 595 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: a firehouse so shirts, but today's Ron day. What we're doing. Appreciate, 596 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: appreciates for everybody. Went up to a friend of mine 597 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: about my house. He's got the car jacked up. It's 598 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: nice weather, he's gonna sweet the tires around, but he's 599 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: not chocolate the tires or south like that. So what 600 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about little safety out there too. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, 601 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: that's and that's always a good thing, you know, Frank. 602 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: I was I was driving yesterday coming home and coming 603 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: up Roots seventeen north through Paramus, New Jersey, and I 604 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: saw someone saw someone on the side of the road 605 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: in his little Honda c RV and he had the 606 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: car up on the jack the little that little the 607 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: little scissor jack that they give you, and he's sitting 608 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: under the car. He's got his legs under the car 609 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: trying to get the tire on and off. And I went, 610 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: oh my god. And unfortunately I wasn't able to stop 611 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: because I usually stop and you know, try to help 612 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: somebody like that, because I can just see if if 613 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: that car collapses. You know, you have to have such 614 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: respect for an automobile, you know, from the simplest things 615 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: and changing attire. I think it should be mandatory that 616 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: in order for someone to get their license at seventeen, 617 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: the heck with the driving test, because we give them, 618 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: we give them the rules and the regulations, and they 619 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: still drive terrible. I think one of the first thing 620 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: they should have had to do is they've got to 621 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: be able to change a tire safely on the side 622 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: of the road. Listen, we got young people driving cars, right, 623 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: and you get a flat tire. Don't give me a call, Okay, 624 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: I said, won't. It's Jackson Nappy careful, I don't know 625 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: how to change tires, right, yeah, And that's you know, 626 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: and I think I think changing a tire should be 627 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: as important as learning to swim to give an analogy, 628 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: and I really believe that, Frank. I appreciate the call, 629 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your concern. I respect what you guys do, 630 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and uh thanks once again as always. You know, tires 631 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: are just that important. We don't realize that that little 632 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: contact patch and then picking tires that's an issue, and 633 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: then it's it's not gonna get any easier. We had 634 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: a two thousand eleven buick in the shop this week 635 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: all across that needed four tires. The cars got thirty 636 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: one miles on it. The tires are absolutely smoked, I 637 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: mean just worn off the edges. The car had an 638 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: alignment issue which didn't help, but the tires were worn 639 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: in my opinion prematurely. To fifty seventeen is the tire. 640 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: So do you know I looked these tires up. There 641 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: were only four possible choices of brand to seventeen when 642 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about a national brand, something that's available on 643 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: a regular basis. Fortunately for her, because I asked her, 644 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: and you know this is we're talking about tires and 645 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: picking them also not just changing them. You know, one 646 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: of her parameters was she was looking for something with 647 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: good wet road traction. And when Debbie said that to me, 648 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: I said, okay, General a s O three, which is 649 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: what we put on the car from General Tire. And 650 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: the neat thing about them is that they have grooves 651 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: cut in the tire. The way it's the tread is 652 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: designed to help channel water. So it's it's it's an excellent, 653 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: all all season, all weather tire, but design specifically really 654 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: a great tire and wet road conditions. And people don't 655 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: stop and think about that either, about how to pick 656 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: a tire, and it's just gotten to be that important. 657 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: So um, you know, just be aware of Frank, I 658 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: appreciate it, and for everyone else us out there, if 659 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: you want more information about Generals, get out to the 660 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: general website General tire dot com. Wow, what a fast 661 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: two hours today was It just kind of flew by? 662 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't make a chance to talk about 663 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sneak it in here, did you know? Look 664 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: what Denso Spark Plugs is doing. Dens O Spark Plugs 665 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: now power more NHR winners in Charlotte just came out 666 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: with a press release. I'll have to see if I 667 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: can get this up on the Facebook page, talking about 668 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: how Denso helps the folks at uh an hr A 669 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: and what they're doing. Until the next time I'm on 670 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: an eating in the car do I can remind me 671 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: each and every one of you. The mechanics aren't expensive, 672 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: they're placeless.